$130 is definitely not bad for the U2. It's not amazing value for money, but I'd say the ZOWIE quality and feel for that price is good. I don't recommend modifying the mouse or the screw tension if you do not have any real problems, you could make click feel much worse!
@@WorldKeepsSpinnin they won't feel like shit but it seems pretty pointless, Mrsavage played with a 540hz on fortnite averaging below 400 fps or something so 360hz seems enough
@@axelwikstrom2444 when you get used to 480hz playing any game that doesnt hit that target will feel like shit, happens to me currently even with 390hz
I love that you open mice up when you review them. It’s a nice touch and makes it feel like a techpowerup review but in video format. I do miss the gameplay a bit but I understand collecting tons of clips for each mouse can be pretty tedious.
The XM1r had the same thing with the screws affecting the click feel. Great review. The shape is intriguing to me, but I'm not a huge fan of super narrow mice or dramatic tapers inward.
You should think of testing the flatness of mice because i have had 9 fk1-c replaced for having a banana base and the glide is terrible, they really did not design the C series lineup well at all. I have also found some of glorious mice are not flat either. I dont see any reviewer on youtube testing this and i think its super important to the glide experience. Anyone can check their c series mice by placing a metal ruler longways on the base and at the rear 90% of the foot does not touch the pad and the gap is huge. Zowie responded to my findings saying it was within their tolerances, what a joke for over 1mm gap.
It is interesting the way you grip the mouse is the opposite of their marketing reason for designing the shape, especially the thumb groove. You still end up aggressively clawing it with your thumb very bent (like other reviewers) so that may be the reason it's not flying off the shelves.
Interesting take. Today I got my U2, and I have to say my experice is complete opposite to yours, regarding to mouse grip. I have hands 21x11,and this mouse is perfect for my relax claw, placing my ring finger and pinky far front. If I try to use aggresive claw and place my ring figher and pinky near the middle of the mouse, it feels very unnatural. I can feel pain in my fingers after very shot amount of time. I will do some more testing but this my first opinion.
Onnistuuko 2:46 näyttämäsi grip eli pikkurilli ja nimetön erillään, mutta koukussa olevan peukalon sijasta suoralla peukalolla? Olen S2 käyttäjä ja eniten mietityttää muuttuuko tämä vaikeaksi u2:lla.
If you have smaller to medium hands then yes , if you have larger hands go with the XE both mice are great :) personaly i enjoy my zowie u2 more then my xe , but i play on a glaspad so the lod doesn't feel that great on the xe On normal mousepads i have no issues with the xe though , so have that in mind ! With the zowie u2 i have Zero issues on glas
If they're making new mice this light with the latest sensor, hopefully they update some of their existing mice perhaps? Imagine a slightly lighter EC-3 wired with a 3395. I'd buy that over some of the wireless options these days!
I actually remembered that they used these on the EC2-CW as well, but I could be wrong 🤔. These are stock switches of course, I never mod the mice that I have for review.
I owned a EC3-CW for about a month now and I think I just CAN'T go back on symmetrical anymore. Weird because I played alot on GPX and a couple other mices for more than 2 years and I performed extremely well tbh (especially on GPX) but I've forgotten how it felds like to play on an ergo and my Zowie is simply end tier, it's such a great mouse! Good video as always bro! 😄✌
The _MOMENT_ you turned it during the intro, my mind yelled "symmetrical NP-01!" lol Why wasn't it compared to the Vaxee? Was I just wrong in seeing that? The NP-01 has always come off as an S2 contoured for the right hand, so seeing the silhouette and sculpting of the U2 had me waiting for the elephant in the room (in my mind?) to be addressed haha
Keep in mind that I doubt these screws are there for screw tensioning, it's not the ZOWIE way. I don't recommend modifying your mouse if everything feels good!
@hausgaming I also use the relaxed Claw grip because of my Zowie FK2 from 2017. I want to upgrade to a wireless mouse. Which Mouse you can recommend for relaxed claw if price doesnt matter? or maybe you have a top 3?
New Zowie mouse!?Wow!!🤩 I’m both glad and sad at the same time. Glad for more Zowie stuff but aldo sad since I hoped for wireless versions of either the ZA or the S-series after the EC series.
I wish they came out with white versions, i still have my ec white in my server. Would really like a wireless version. I don’t think i’d want a black one.
man the EU pricing is crazy tho... 170 euros. I wanna give it a shot but just like their wireless EC being 190-200 euros in EU, the price is absurd. guess we wait for a sale if it ever happens
@@hausgaming Have you seen the new Cherry Xtrfy M68 Pro 8K Wireless that is coming out in Q2 2024? They claim that their mouse is going to be faster than Razer's 8K when it comes to motion latency and click latency.
Hi mate , one question? i used s2 mouse but as you told in own review microaming is not so good and yes it is, instead of fk2 . What can you say about this one - many viewers talking that this is something between S2 and Fk2 , but what about microaiming its like S2 or FK2 - this is main main question .
anyone has connection issue? Get my mouse today, and worked fine in wire mode, but no response under wireless mode (both enhanced receiver/USB receiver)
You're the first person I've seen mention this when it strikes me as Zowie's response to the NP-01, but symmetrical. I haven't looked up any comparisons, but I'd be surprised if there's much difference between the two (I feel the NP-01s would feel a tad smaller to the U2 versus the standard NP-01). Let me know if you're still interested in this and I'll see what I can look up, I'll forget the moment I'm done writing this, otherwise lol
There is always a slight increase with MS, but nothing you can actually feel in-game! The reported latency is indeed MS off, forgot to add that in the video!
Hey there! I was hoping if you could lend me a hand, I am searching for a new mice, the grip I use I think is a pincer claw grip as I curl my pinky around the mid near back side of the mice and stretch my ring finger like on a relaxed claw grip. I have a hit a miss with a GPX shape which was my best performer but I do not like the shape that much, I really loved EC3-CW but sometimes the back of the mice was getting into my palm while tucking the mouse more into my hand while correcting recoil which was iritating me as a bit of my skin was getting squeezed by the back of the mice, like almost underneath the mice, this was fixed on Lamzu Thorn but it felt clunky and not comfy as EC3, was good for tracking but for tac FPS like CS2 it was like pulling a brick even tho it was not heavy, it was the mid hump, it felt like it is not well weight balanced. So I was thinking about getting the U2 or if you can recommend me anything better, I have 18×10cm hand and I am asking as you also talk about pincer claw grip or relaxed claw. Thanks
Nice review as always Haus. This is really nice to see from Zowie, but they're so painfully slow with their wirelwss releases. I get it, quality over quantity, but while waiting for a wirelss S2, Santa brought me a Vaxee NP01S + an LGG Saturn Pro, and all I can say is what a setup. I'm not looking back, forget the S2.
i want to see how you perform on this mouse vs other mice why you not doing your score rating anymore? playing koovaks and see if this mouse shape helps to break your previous score.
Is it the perkeleen ftip mouse? If yes prolly not! Too much stuff to take a look at, and it takes me a long time to properly test and then produce a video :D
So it seems that they listened to pretty much every single piece of feedback that the community (and mouse reviewers) were giving them over the years, except for one: They didn't separate the buttons from the rest of the shell. That's a pretty serious technical mistake, since the click feel can end up feeling every inconsistent depending on where you place your fingers.
The feet feel like Zowie feet, no difference here :D! the design is not important as long as there are no problems, but changing the feet is a bit more troublesome now obviously.
I'm sad coz I always hope zowie cooking S2 wireless but they are not, I use S2 for 4 years already and I need wireless version. But thanks God fantech cooking helios 2 pro and I bought it, and that mouse is 🔥🔥
i think theyre waiting 1-2 years to update the fk za s and Ec line with 4k hz 60gram and lower click latency. Enough to sell much of their wireless stock without a big loss and then take over again
@@hausgaming Hope there will be U3 in some times (a fan of smaller mice), and U2 is arround 164 USD in my place (Hong Kong) same price with EC3 (but EC3 has discount at the moment for arround 128USD)
My man tha zowie viking. Love ya man. 💪 I love the S2 but would have loved a more narrow grip on S2. Like the U2. If S2 had more narrow grip, I would use it always. Great review. And appreciate the lossening the screw advice. Will get this soon for sure. CHEERS. 😊
$130 is definitely not bad for the U2. It's not amazing value for money, but I'd say the ZOWIE quality and feel for that price is good. I don't recommend modifying the mouse or the screw tension if you do not have any real problems, you could make click feel much worse!
Will u go Oled 480hz? Since oled has no ghosting.
@@myvmk1no game is hitting 480hz other then like overwatch valorant every other game will feel like shit
190usd on maxgaming! oof
@@WorldKeepsSpinnin they won't feel like shit but it seems pretty pointless, Mrsavage played with a 540hz on fortnite averaging below 400 fps or something so 360hz seems enough
@@axelwikstrom2444 when you get used to 480hz playing any game that doesnt hit that target will feel like shit, happens to me currently even with 390hz
$130!? Back in my day, we got U2 on our iPods for FREE!
lmao
I still have it on my classic
Zowie actually did a thing...
Always been, it's very delicate when it comes to their mice. We are fine now.
I love that you open mice up when you review them. It’s a nice touch and makes it feel like a techpowerup review but in video format. I do miss the gameplay a bit but I understand collecting tons of clips for each mouse can be pretty tedious.
The XM1r had the same thing with the screws affecting the click feel. Great review. The shape is intriguing to me, but I'm not a huge fan of super narrow mice or dramatic tapers inward.
You should think of testing the flatness of mice because i have had 9 fk1-c replaced for having a banana base and the glide is terrible, they really did not design the C series lineup well at all. I have also found some of glorious mice are not flat either. I dont see any reviewer on youtube testing this and i think its super important to the glide experience. Anyone can check their c series mice by placing a metal ruler longways on the base and at the rear 90% of the foot does not touch the pad and the gap is huge. Zowie responded to my findings saying it was within their tolerances, what a joke for over 1mm gap.
The shape is a bit similar to Endgame Gear XM1/XM2 shape but the button height of U2 is much higher.
Great to see ZOWIE still back in the game but they are more than a couple of years late with this release
It is interesting the way you grip the mouse is the opposite of their marketing reason for designing the shape, especially the thumb groove. You still end up aggressively clawing it with your thumb very bent (like other reviewers) so that may be the reason it's not flying off the shelves.
The way it looks from the top reminds me of the old zowie am. From The bottom it has much more curvature tho.
Interesting take. Today I got my U2, and I have to say my experice is complete opposite to yours, regarding to mouse grip. I have hands 21x11,and this mouse is perfect for my relax claw, placing my ring finger and pinky far front. If I try to use aggresive claw and place my ring figher and pinky near the middle of the mouse, it feels very unnatural. I can feel pain in my fingers after very shot amount of time. I will do some more testing but this my first opinion.
Gotta love how Zowie is keeping the shapes unique. Now let's wait and watch all the other companies copy, LOL!
I pitted Haus's beard vs Boardzy's moustache - what's your pick ?
zowie releasing something new feels like my dad came back with the milk and paid my tuition fee.
curious whether you’re going to review the wlmouse beastx eventually
GPX2 or U2? I liked the OG GPX shape, but the quality of the clicks was meh and scroll encoder would register random inputs.
Onnistuuko 2:46 näyttämäsi grip eli pikkurilli ja nimetön erillään, mutta koukussa olevan peukalon sijasta suoralla peukalolla? Olen S2 käyttäjä ja eniten mietityttää muuttuuko tämä vaikeaksi u2:lla.
unexpected part is that they made the mouse lighter than 70g with a 3395
Seen U2 in concert a couple of time, guess I may as well pick one of these up and play with U2 as well 😅
U2 how narrow does it feel n does the back hump gets in the way?
Would you suggest this over the Vaxee XE? for relaxed claw
If you have smaller to medium hands then yes , if you have larger hands go with the XE both mice are great :) personaly i enjoy my zowie u2 more then my xe , but i play on a glaspad so the lod doesn't feel that great on the xe
On normal mousepads i have no issues with the xe though , so have that in mind ! With the zowie u2 i have Zero issues on glas
If they're making new mice this light with the latest sensor, hopefully they update some of their existing mice perhaps?
Imagine a slightly lighter EC-3 wired with a 3395. I'd buy that over some of the wireless options these days!
unlikely bro
ec3 is goated ... 🤤
The move to 3395 sensor is most likely due to battery/weight saving reasons.
Used wired there’s no way to tell the two sensors apart by feel.
Holdup, did they actually switch to transparent BSPDs or did you solder those in yourself?
I actually remembered that they used these on the EC2-CW as well, but I could be wrong 🤔. These are stock switches of course, I never mod the mice that I have for review.
I owned a EC3-CW for about a month now and I think I just CAN'T go back on symmetrical anymore. Weird because I played alot on GPX and a couple other mices for more than 2 years and I performed extremely well tbh (especially on GPX) but I've forgotten how it felds like to play on an ergo and my Zowie is simply end tier, it's such a great mouse! Good video as always bro! 😄✌
Ive always used symmetrical mice but you're making me want to buy an EC-3 now lol
@@VicBayolo Haha sorry bro, I hope you will enjoy your new mouse as much as I do (in case you buy). 😜
Ambi is a myth that needs to be stomped.
The _MOMENT_ you turned it during the intro, my mind yelled "symmetrical NP-01!" lol
Why wasn't it compared to the Vaxee? Was I just wrong in seeing that? The NP-01 has always come off as an S2 contoured for the right hand, so seeing the silhouette and sculpting of the U2 had me waiting for the elephant in the room (in my mind?) to be addressed haha
I think it's just in your head brother, S2 is the symmetrical NP-01 :D.
love the move towards tensioning click screws
Keep in mind that I doubt these screws are there for screw tensioning, it's not the ZOWIE way. I don't recommend modifying your mouse if everything feels good!
They should bring back the black and yellow color scheme like the FK mice had it looked so good. Who here still have one of those??
what mouse is the black mouse in bottom left corner of screen at 0:22?
Maybe zygen np-01s
@hausgaming I also use the relaxed Claw grip because of my Zowie FK2 from 2017. I want to upgrade to a wireless mouse. Which Mouse you can recommend for relaxed claw if price doesnt matter? or maybe you have a top 3?
New Zowie mouse!?Wow!!🤩 I’m both glad and sad at the same time. Glad for more Zowie stuff but aldo sad since I hoped for wireless versions of either the ZA or the S-series after the EC series.
I wish they came out with white versions, i still have my ec white in my server. Would really like a wireless version. I don’t think i’d want a black one.
man the EU pricing is crazy tho... 170 euros. I wanna give it a shot but just like their wireless EC being 190-200 euros in EU, the price is absurd. guess we wait for a sale if it ever happens
Let's hope the EU price is adjusted. We are getting fucked again
I had never realized everything was more expensive is EU, but compared to 3rd world Asian countries its still much better 😢
@@hausgaming Have you seen the new Cherry Xtrfy M68 Pro 8K Wireless that is coming out in Q2 2024? They claim that their mouse is going to be faster than Razer's 8K when it comes to motion latency and click latency.
From what I see, it is a combination of an EC and ZA. Probably in europe will sell at 200E :(.
Just waiting until they can lower that click latency so I can buy my first Zowie mouse.
Hi mate , one question? i used s2 mouse but as you told in own review microaming is not so good and yes it is, instead of fk2 . What can you say about this one - many viewers talking that this is something between S2 and Fk2 , but what about microaiming its like S2 or FK2 - this is main main question .
Hello Haus, will this have different sizes in the future like all Zowie?
for claw grips which one is better? Thorn or u2
Compared to the classic X2v2? I mean obv the side part are different but how the hump compared (like where It hit)?
Thank you, Vaxee.
Zowie finally caught up to Vaxee
I'm curious, what's your main mouse and whats your handsize?
if the click latency were sub 2ms it would actually be a good mouse. unlucky
anyone has connection issue? Get my mouse today, and worked fine in wire mode, but no response under wireless mode (both enhanced receiver/USB receiver)
hey haus, do you have a preference when comparing this mouse to the np-01s wireless?
You're the first person I've seen mention this when it strikes me as Zowie's response to the NP-01, but symmetrical. I haven't looked up any comparisons, but I'd be surprised if there's much difference between the two (I feel the NP-01s would feel a tad smaller to the U2 versus the standard NP-01). Let me know if you're still interested in this and I'll see what I can look up, I'll forget the moment I'm done writing this, otherwise lol
What screwdriver did you use for the clicks?
what are the dimensions?
thanks for the review, i would like to ask about the motionsync implementation, did you notice/test any latency increasements ?
There is always a slight increase with MS, but nothing you can actually feel in-game! The reported latency is indeed MS off, forgot to add that in the video!
Anyone having sensor issues on Zowie U2? My copy is losing tracking randomly.
It’s preorder only right now?
with or without you ~zowie 2024~
Great work Haus 👏
how is U2 comparing with NP01s wireless？
Im just waiting for the ZA13-CW, please Zowie save me from the wire...
GIVE ME
About time they do something somewhat light.
Good job haus
how does it feel against np-01 series
Think this is good if I love the fk2 shape? I just wanna try a wireless mouse
Not similar at all
Hey there! I was hoping if you could lend me a hand, I am searching for a new mice, the grip I use I think is a pincer claw grip as I curl my pinky around the mid near back side of the mice and stretch my ring finger like on a relaxed claw grip. I have a hit a miss with a GPX shape which was my best performer but I do not like the shape that much, I really loved EC3-CW but sometimes the back of the mice was getting into my palm while tucking the mouse more into my hand while correcting recoil which was iritating me as a bit of my skin was getting squeezed by the back of the mice, like almost underneath the mice, this was fixed on Lamzu Thorn but it felt clunky and not comfy as EC3, was good for tracking but for tac FPS like CS2 it was like pulling a brick even tho it was not heavy, it was the mid hump, it felt like it is not well weight balanced. So I was thinking about getting the U2 or if you can recommend me anything better, I have 18×10cm hand and I am asking as you also talk about pincer claw grip or relaxed claw. Thanks
Nice review as always Haus. This is really nice to see from Zowie, but they're so painfully slow with their wirelwss releases. I get it, quality over quantity, but while waiting for a wirelss S2, Santa brought me a Vaxee NP01S + an LGG Saturn Pro, and all I can say is what a setup. I'm not looking back, forget the S2.
You’ll be back to the S2
@@user-xi9ft6zx7w I still have my S2 but I haven't gone back, I have no reason to do so.
are you doing a wl beast x mouse review?
1K Hz in 2024...
Are you going to review the beastx?
Yes!
finaly something that actually new from zowie lmao
how does it compare to the viper v2? reasonably similar in shape and size
Shorther Viper V2 with a higher hump and more curvature. It does not feel similar tbh
i want to see how you perform on this mouse vs other mice
why you not doing your score rating anymore? playing koovaks and see if this mouse shape helps to break your previous score.
Because it would be anecdotal and proves nothing
@@xDvoa he was the one coming up with this idea on older videos and not following up on later videos.
Very good, I'd like to see U1 and wired for lower price.
Is finalmouse ULX review dropping soon?
Check rtings - "solid performance but poor build quality" ....wait for new version 2025 ✅
Hey are you going to review 70e keychron m4 4k 35g mouse, perkele
I would love to see the polling stability , click and motion latency
Is it the perkeleen ftip mouse? If yes prolly not! Too much stuff to take a look at, and it takes me a long time to properly test and then produce a video :D
@@hausgaming understoood, eipä mittää oli sen verran halpa että tilaten meni
This would be a killer mouse if it were available for less than 100 euros..
4ms latency is a big nono
tell me they're working on more, specifically a 2024 Zowie Mico 🥺
Isn't front too high?
They switched to transparent shell pink dot whatttttt? For the first time ever no black shell blue dot?????
You didn't talk about feet
It's the same zowie feet :D
Good video Haus, i think I have to pick one up,
So it seems that they listened to pretty much every single piece of feedback that the community (and mouse reviewers) were giving them over the years, except for one: They didn't separate the buttons from the rest of the shell. That's a pretty serious technical mistake, since the click feel can end up feeling every inconsistent depending on where you place your fingers.
Finally new smth new from Zowie!
looks like the good designers went to vaxee
how to order in eu
the weight on this makes me a bit hopeful for the za13-cw! what are your thoughts on the u2's front skate design?
The feet feel like Zowie feet, no difference here :D! the design is not important as long as there are no problems, but changing the feet is a bit more troublesome now obviously.
@@hausgaming lmao gotcha, thank you!
The U2 reminds me of the OP1we with the narrow front
OP1WE, such an awesome shape, love that mouse.
Maxgaming says its the same price as the EC series when it first launched.. Thats a bit steep.
EC launched at 190 euros, 170 is at least a bit cheaper, but still steep af for us EU kings
@@hausgaming i remember the EC coming in at 1990 swedish crowns, now down to 1690.. U2 preorders also at 1990.
@@TrolleLOL hmm weird, in my EC2-CW video the preorder price is 189e in a screenshot, and for U2 it's 169 euros now in MaxGaming for me in Finland
@@hausgaming it just showed up for preorders today, Lets hope they correct it soon or sales here will probably be low 😅
Zowie didnt even dare to change the scroll wheel...
This might be replacing my GPX. I've had it for 2 years, so reliability going forward is questionable. GPX 2 didn't improve enough imo.
Is Motion Sync on by default or can you disable it?
Would be a dealbreaker if you cannot disable it.
You can disable MS, in fact I think it was disabled by default, but not sure!
Still waiting for s2 wireless
fantech helios for now but theyre working on wireless s, fk, and za series now
@@ValJCI zowie could be dominating the mouse scene but suck on their little thumbs with a production team of half a person
@@MustyPickle87 I respect that they take their time tbh they know their role and its pure quality and shape and they do that well
@@ValJCI Yeah you're right even though they're years behind in tech their build quality and shapes are really good
Too expensive in my country :(
4ms click latency is about the same amount of time my monitor refreshes an entire image. Might try the mouse if they actually fix that.
LETS GO ZOWIE, ITS YOUR TIME TO TURN OFF COMPETITION LIKE YOU ALWAYS DID! LETS MAKE THIS THIN IN RED COLOR AND ITS MY MAIN FOREVER
I'm sad coz I always hope zowie cooking S2 wireless but they are not, I use S2 for 4 years already and I need wireless version.
But thanks God fantech cooking helios 2 pro and I bought it, and that mouse is 🔥🔥
Finally Zowie came back to earth. EC-W for 190€ with 76+g and 3370 was just insane.
130€ for 60g and 3395 seems a bit high, but not completely insane.
you are a pro buddy
keep doing the greatest job man
salute to you 🎉🎉 FPS PRO
i think theyre waiting 1-2 years to update the fk za s and Ec line with 4k hz 60gram and lower click latency. Enough to sell much of their wireless stock without a big loss and then take over again
already ordered mine
Ma people from zowie, when they are gonna make a ZA wireless ?!!!😅
Would you made an video comparing with other mouse e.g. x2h mini
There is the X2H Medium comparison pic here, honestly the X2H Mini is just quite a lot smaller and extremely different to the U2 :D
@@hausgaming Hope there will be U3 in some times (a fan of smaller mice), and U2 is arround 164 USD in my place (Hong Kong) same price with EC3 (but EC3 has discount at the moment for arround 128USD)
I sleep til Zowie makes the EC1.5
Only 1000hz polling rate?
Yes, it's a full speed dongle, so with this dongle there won't be higher polling rates.
My man tha zowie viking. Love ya man. 💪 I love the S2 but would have loved a more narrow grip on S2. Like the U2. If S2 had more narrow grip, I would use it always.
Great review. And appreciate the lossening the screw advice. Will get this soon for sure.
CHEERS. 😊
Seems like another failure