I find it weird that other reviewer's barely mention the "ergo" part of this keyboard, ie talking about RSI and comfort. Thanks for covering that in your review
It's funny how the ergo layout gets its name from the TGR board, and everyone forgets that the Alice was inspired by the Linworks EM7 (later EM8 which was tented, I believe).
That's a bold choice to map the right shift and arrow keys as you have. I think most people would have used a traditional inverted-T and then have the shift to the right. Or, not have an arrow cluster and set up the keys as Shift, Function, Control, and Alt. Personally, I'd probably do the latter, and then map arrows on a layer -- maybe [ ; ' / like on HHKB
Looking at other builds I see the arrow cluster as an inverted T, so it's definitely not a limitation of the pcb. That would've been a dealbreaker for me.
I would leave the right shift in the up arrow position but just use mod-tap to enable both up arrow and right shift functionality on it. Can reserve the rightmost 1u as a Fn key or something else.
how does the plateless vs with plate compare, in terms of feel? was wondering if there's a more significant difference or less since the PCB comes in 2 pieces
Would buy it instantly if there was some magnetic switch compatibility with the PCB! That keyboard is really impressive for the price by the way. Nice to hear that there are some cheaper options out there.
how's the anno? i have qk80 and the anno is awful, and in the mean time the cycle8 is the best anno i ever had, wondering if the neo ergo's anno is more lean on the good side or the worse side
@@phuongtrang280 worth every penny, given you have some good switch to pair with, i only use case foam w/ gulf switch, one of the greatest sound kb i ever built so far.
5:18 Well.. maybe because you're not supposed to put the shift key on the left of the top arrow ^^ Go check the picture of different layouts in the neo ergo folder in the qwertykeys notion :)
Imagine if hobbyist/enthusiast custom keyboards had input latency like a basic EVGA Z15, simple media controls like a volume/mute knob, a bios mode, USB passthrough and an optional PCB for north facing LEDs to enable shinethrough OEM keycaps. Then maybe such keyboards would be relevant to gaming. Love your videos, this is a scene roast. They should listen to you about this stuff.
I find it weird that other reviewer's barely mention the "ergo" part of this keyboard, ie talking about RSI and comfort. Thanks for covering that in your review
Posting at 1am like a real gigachad
HAHA Thanks for watching at 1am!!!
1:10 I don’t wanna be that guy, but the TGR Alice isn’t tented.
It's funny how the ergo layout gets its name from the TGR board, and everyone forgets that the Alice was inspired by the Linworks EM7 (later EM8 which was tented, I believe).
That's a bold choice to map the right shift and arrow keys as you have. I think most people would have used a traditional inverted-T and then have the shift to the right. Or, not have an arrow cluster and set up the keys as Shift, Function, Control, and Alt. Personally, I'd probably do the latter, and then map arrows on a layer -- maybe [ ; ' / like on HHKB
yeah im just going with no arrows and hhkb style, awesome this board lets you build that zone in many ways
Good thing I don't use the right shift
Looking at other builds I see the arrow cluster as an inverted T, so it's definitely not a limitation of the pcb. That would've been a dealbreaker for me.
I would leave the right shift in the up arrow position but just use mod-tap to enable both up arrow and right shift functionality on it. Can reserve the rightmost 1u as a Fn key or something else.
1:12 Isn't the Alice just angled but not tented? Neo ergo is more like the Type K with the tenting and angle
Idk if it was spring crunch or what but that enter key sounded like clicky switches lol
so the rgb defusers are supposed to be mounted between plate and pcb so they dont poke out as far as
In other reviewers' videos, NEO has commented that placing the diffusers on top or below the board is fine either way
It’s always a good day when maker mods drops a video
how does one get the Neo Ergo layout to actually appear in VIA?
how did you like those Doom switches though?! I've been eyeing them for a while now
love to build a PC and not realize there isn't a keyboard in there
Never thought about how an ergo board would work for me, but good to see a nice one is so accessible (constructive criticisms aside)
Thank you for not putting the up arrow left of the right shift
did you include any plate foam or others in the typing tests?
Love how you just laugh at your own jokes
how does the plateless vs with plate compare, in terms of feel? was wondering if there's a more significant difference or less since the PCB comes in 2 pieces
Usually with no plate its less stiff and gives more.
Thank you for this amazing video dad
Would buy it instantly if there was some magnetic switch compatibility with the PCB! That keyboard is really impressive for the price by the way. Nice to hear that there are some cheaper options out there.
have you tried a no foam config yet
Whats color??
Wheres the murakami desk mat from?
Cool vid! How did you change the right shift location? only thing keeping me from getting
Map the key in via. Looks like he switched R-shift and Up arrow
how's the anno? i have qk80 and the anno is awful, and in the mean time the cycle8 is the best anno i ever had, wondering if the neo ergo's anno is more lean on the good side or the worse side
How are you liking the sound of the Cycle8?
@@phuongtrang280 very good
Worth every penny
I don't have plate foam/ plate sheet , but I have the foam under the pcb
@@phuongtrang280 worth every penny, given you have some good switch to pair with, i only use case foam w/ gulf switch, one of the greatest sound kb i ever built so far.
Does this keyboard have the "tape mod" sound? I hope not.
What's wrong with the tape mod sound?
Dude, I look forward to how you're gonna slide in and pun the like button. Highlights of my day every time.
5:18 Well.. maybe because you're not supposed to put the shift key on the left of the top arrow ^^
Go check the picture of different layouts in the neo ergo folder in the qwertykeys notion :)
He put it there because he was hitting the up arrow when he meant to hit the right shift key.
feel like they could have found a better design besides adding huge RGB gaps between the keys.
There's almost no difference in sound between all 3 configurations.
Probably because they're all foamed up which made it pointless
I heart a little bit but yeah, the foams messes it up. Clackiest to thockiest is plateless>carbon fiber>fr4 which checks out!
imo FR4 sounds trash in almost every board to me. CF sounded decent, toss up between that and the plateless
short, sweet and informative. Just like you bb.
Those stabs sound terrible though. Clicks like an MX blue.
You should do a video on the new BSUN strawberry cheesecake :)
haha, need to buy? it's already on order
Finally
Imagine if hobbyist/enthusiast custom keyboards had input latency like a basic EVGA Z15, simple media controls like a volume/mute knob, a bios mode, USB passthrough and an optional PCB for north facing LEDs to enable shinethrough OEM keycaps.
Then maybe such keyboards would be relevant to gaming. Love your videos, this is a scene roast. They should listen to you about this stuff.
That would be DOOOOPE