I've been watching random clips of cinematography breakdown in the past few months, because I felt the need to learn more about it in order to improve my understanding of the craft. Your videos stand out the most to me, because they are very well made, both in terms of explanation and usefulness. No promotion crap or any waste of time. And I feel that you are doing a great service for anyone who seeks professional knowledge on the subject, but maybe didn't really get it straight out of film school, or has been shy to ask questions to a DP on set. I applaud what you are doing sir, and I hope your channel as well as your following can grow and bloom.
Great breakdown like always. I actually like the sun ''sandwich'' in this shot because it makes for better contrast with the shadow side of the building behind him.
I am a patron now :) and I LOVE it..I mean the Soul Breakdown? WOW almost 1 hour? THAT WAS INCREDIBLE! Highly recommend becoming a Patron! So much value!
The starting summary of what's going on is pure comedy gold. "Yes, sky, everything is connected, the future is now, I am in a building, its fancy.." 😂😂😂
Hey! I would love to see a breakdown of a commercial that tries to replicate moonlight/a night shot that isn't a "titan tubes in the middle of a city" kind of look. Either way, awesome breakdown like always!
This is great, but I sometimes get confused when you draw a line and saw the 12x of diffusion or neg or whatever goes "here". Off the frame it's hard to tell where in the space you're talking about, so maybe a little more clarification/detail at those points would be helpful. (For example, I don't fully understand where in this video the bounce would go on frame right. Just a little extra detail would be great, thanks!)
I would have never noticed. I actually like the lighting in that shot. Maybe it has been lit that way to give a little more separation of the subject. That aside, I do see your point and I learned a ton of things in this video, thank you!!
Great information! Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Looking forward to trying this out! On a side note, the woman in red sitting in the auditorium is Mayim Bialik. She played a TV character named “Blossom” back in the 90’s. She was also in the Big Bang Theory.
As always dropping solid info with every video! Thanks Patrick! I keep forwarding your videos to my DP's when I want to clearly articulate a shot idea!
I'm not understanding the criticism of this shot. I think the bounce still looks beautiful. And if the average viewer (which the ad is intended for) thinks the same, what's the issue?
@@stephenwhipple7994 that’s fair. I guess I was just confused because some of Patricks preferences in this breakdown came across as trying to be more objective to me.
I do like this shot but anyway this episode really clicked for me, as in differentiating different ways to approach a situation like this, for your personal toolbox. A little critique: Maybe it‘s just me but I‘m often having a hard time following you as soon as you‘re beginning to draw things at angles in 2D, like you did with the neg here. Maybe it would help to either make a simple floor plan, then or giving an actual 3d drawing a chance
Seems like a lot of effort for something as easy as negative fill placement. From a starting position of being parallel to the subject (aka blocking ambient light from the entire side of the subjects face), you can picture it in your mind that wherever the neg opens up to, more ambient will be let in, so if he's talking about trying to get an edge on the subject, that means the neg is opening towards the back/side of the head (angle rotating counter clock-wise).
I'm a proponent for the sun sandwich because there are plenty of natural examples from daily life; buildings. Buildings constantly reflect light back into peoples faces from the opposite angle of the sun. In this example I could easily imagine a barn or other broadside building on his property bouncing light back into his face just as they've shot it. It's a concept that makes less sense if you're out in the woods, but it's a perfectly good technique to use in the manner that this commercial was shot.
Would really like to see you do a video on some set ups, perhaps the alternative set up instead of the sun sandwich, wrapping from the sunshine. Noobs like me need to learn which gear and clamps etc lol
At 7:37 you say that in case we can get mucho level from the bouce we would have to diffuse the light. In this case with a wide anamorphic lens, I wonder how could you put a diffuser between the sun and actor without see the cstands on shot?
I been nerdin' out on dis kinda' stuff, and you sir, have a wonderful way of speaking and drawin' ova da shots, so dat some really complex ideahs' are unda'standable. felt like I had a whole 3 hour college lecture boiled down inta 10 minutes.
What is a "neg"? Is it a flag to block light from bouncing back to the talent's face? 7:14 And when you measure exposure you measure from the bounce of the sun sandwich right?
Great detailed vid, my question is if you're using a 12x12 to wrap, will you have to flag that bounce as well to prevent it from wrapping around the entire face or would you just adjust the angle of the 12x12 to prevent it from bouncing too much light on shadow side?
The soundblankets you link to, do you use those as permanent set ups in your office or do you also take them with you? Are they durable enough or would you recommend just using moving blankets instead?
Great breakdown. But something tells me the client was far more interested in the number of celebs they could get than the finer points of creative choices. (If most of my clients have been anything to go by). Love the channel. Subscribed.
Hi, I produce a lot of educational content and many ask for a drawing overlay solution, Im Curious; what kind of pen and pad, and software to overlay it to the video do you use? All the best
Dammit man, Can I come assist for you?! I've been looking for this type of breakdown nearly my entire (shortish) professional life! Art Streiber did it for a while on his IG but this is fantastic!
Could you do an episode on composition? Sometimes really strange compositions are used in very big commercials, it could be very interesting hearing your take on those. How does it happen when directors and cinematographers come to the conclusion that - lets make this ad look strange?
I don't think there's a big diffuser to the left. I think there's another big white shed. Look at the tractor wheels. Wheels furthest from us have harsh shadows. The ones closer to us have reflected light, and lower contrast. If you work with hammers all day everything looks like a nail.
The rear wheels are protected from the sky light and are deeper into the shadow on the floor. So they're not a proof of what you're saying. Even then it was a choice from the DP. He could do the wrap if he wanted to.
I’ve always wondered, how do you shoot a wide shot of a subject looking out big windows during the day and light the subject while still exposing for outside the windows?
What if it was shot intentionally for a distinct look, he is after all, I think the only rural worker in the video, working under the harsh sun, out in the dust and dirt? Or is it just better or common practice for corporate ads to make light always wrap around? Legit question here. :)
I'm more bothered by the clipped sky than the sandwich, I mean if I had so many stops of light to play with, I would never want the sky to clip that harshly.
Good demonstration. I would make the case the "sun sandwich" is often naturally occurring, especially in urban environments. If the sun is 3/4 rear, and someone is walking on a sidewalk a building is often acting as an opposite bounce in the exact same way. This guy could also be standing next to another white farm structure in front of him. Obviously, the story and project dictate all these choices.
can you please do a video on exportin to not be violated by all this compression. i use a bmpcc4k and i cant even let people see me creations. especially for twitter ive used so many tutorials and no matter what i do my stuff gets crushed so insanely its not recognizable.
Wandering DP cares not for celebrity. He cares only for light.
Light is everything
@@of1300 haha
I like this one, he's becoming a myth :D
lol 😂😂😂
Yet the brightest stars shine in the dark
I've been watching random clips of cinematography breakdown in the past few months, because I felt the need to learn more about it in order to improve my understanding of the craft. Your videos stand out the most to me, because they are very well made, both in terms of explanation and usefulness. No promotion crap or any waste of time. And I feel that you are doing a great service for anyone who seeks professional knowledge on the subject, but maybe didn't really get it straight out of film school, or has been shy to ask questions to a DP on set. I applaud what you are doing sir, and I hope your channel as well as your following can grow and bloom.
Suddenly I'm hungry. Great breakdown, Patrick. Well done!
Never trust a sandwich eater.
Some people prefer sandwiches and some prefer wraps and some crazy people like replacing it all with lettuce.
I like this comment
yeah, I think this comment wins
Haha 😆
Gordon Ramsay, "It's actually, grilled with lettuce"
I would love to have bagel BLT right now
*sees Janelle Monae* - “I’m famous”
*sees Ariana Huffington* - “and I’m not”
🔥 burn
Haha you beat me to it
Buzz Aldrin...Johnny Cash, they're one and the same. OBVIOUSLY.
What a voice. RIP Buzz
Great breakdown like always. I actually like the sun ''sandwich'' in this shot because it makes for better contrast with the shadow side of the building behind him.
Just had to pause the video halfway to say that this series of commercial breakdowns you do is the best thing to come out of 2020.
Low bar on the competition but I will take it 👍🏼
I am a patron now :) and I LOVE it..I mean the Soul Breakdown? WOW almost 1 hour? THAT WAS INCREDIBLE! Highly recommend becoming a Patron! So much value!
I like it too. Can’t recommend it enough
The starting summary of what's going on is pure comedy gold. "Yes, sky, everything is connected, the future is now, I am in a building, its fancy.." 😂😂😂
The compositions in this commercial were pretty great.
This ad has some of he most beautiful locations I've seen
The actual advertisement needs to have a version with voice over done by you. So gooooooood!
“This guys a farmer, that’s why he’s wearing that shirt” hahaha, spoken like someone who has worked in commercials for a long time
It’s hard to see details all the way down from the ivory tower
Hey! I would love to see a breakdown of a commercial that tries to replicate moonlight/a night shot that isn't a "titan tubes in the middle of a city" kind of look. Either way, awesome breakdown like always!
"colors, moving lights, handheld, yesss the future is now" Definitely bursted out laughing there
This is great, but I sometimes get confused when you draw a line and saw the 12x of diffusion or neg or whatever goes "here". Off the frame it's hard to tell where in the space you're talking about, so maybe a little more clarification/detail at those points would be helpful. (For example, I don't fully understand where in this video the bounce would go on frame right. Just a little extra detail would be great, thanks!)
this is probably the best channel on the Tube...
I would have never noticed. I actually like the lighting in that shot. Maybe it has been lit that way to give a little more separation of the subject. That aside, I do see your point and I learned a ton of things in this video, thank you!!
Great information! Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Looking forward to trying this out! On a side note, the woman in red sitting in the auditorium is Mayim Bialik. She played a TV character named “Blossom” back in the 90’s. She was also in the Big Bang Theory.
Blossom for the win
Without a doubt, your channel is one of the best lighting resources to go to. Thank you!
"now you will never unsee it" spot-on, lol
I really appreciate the depth of the explanation you go into. Please more of these videos.
Sun Sandwich, alright. - I am cured. I will never do it again.... !!!! I hope, the wandering DP is well and alive... always ahead of his game.
Top 5 commentary of all time, haha. Love this. Keep up the great work
Coming to this vídeo over and over
This dude's commentary is phenomenal.
damn straight
As always dropping solid info with every video! Thanks Patrick! I keep forwarding your videos to my DP's when I want to clearly articulate a shot idea!
i watch you for your sense of humor but i end up learning cinematography in the process.
I'm not understanding the criticism of this shot. I think the bounce still looks beautiful. And if the average viewer (which the ad is intended for) thinks the same, what's the issue?
It's just a breakdown. Preferential critique rather than criticism.
@@stephenwhipple7994 that’s fair. I guess I was just confused because some of Patricks preferences in this breakdown came across as trying to be more objective to me.
Now that I see it. I can’t unsee it. Great job and breakdown!
wahoo alexis. also awesome breakdown and great personality as usual
Who's got a link to the video? Always like to watch the spot before he breaks it down!
IBM.
This is the one.
ruclips.net/video/OpxkC8noCxE/видео.html
The team is getting stronger
Amazing insight! Thank you for the video.
Light is everything, to be honest, and this channel is about light magic. I love it.
Perfect PERFECT!!! Can you please make a video how did you configure your pen to work with davinci? thanks!!!
I do like this shot but anyway this episode really clicked for me, as in differentiating different ways to approach a situation like this, for your personal toolbox.
A little critique: Maybe it‘s just me but I‘m often having a hard time following you as soon as you‘re beginning to draw things at angles in 2D, like you did with the neg here. Maybe it would help to either make a simple floor plan, then or giving an actual 3d drawing a chance
Was thinking exactly the same thing - he could try drawing in proper perspective, or it sometimes gets very ambiguous. But just a small detail :)
Seems like a lot of effort for something as easy as negative fill placement. From a starting position of being parallel to the subject (aka blocking ambient light from the entire side of the subjects face), you can picture it in your mind that wherever the neg opens up to, more ambient will be let in, so if he's talking about trying to get an edge on the subject, that means the neg is opening towards the back/side of the head (angle rotating counter clock-wise).
@@griffinvoth705 Thanks, now I actually understood it. See, I thought he was opening it up tilting it backwards.
This was so well done, and the moment you showed the shot in the beginning, I saw it. Super informative!
I'm a proponent for the sun sandwich because there are plenty of natural examples from daily life; buildings. Buildings constantly reflect light back into peoples faces from the opposite angle of the sun. In this example I could easily imagine a barn or other broadside building on his property bouncing light back into his face just as they've shot it. It's a concept that makes less sense if you're out in the woods, but it's a perfectly good technique to use in the manner that this commercial was shot.
Do you have a link to the ad?
Is a half soft frost on the side, ya know with a sun sandwich, considered a no-no...like cheese and peanut butter?
Thanks for breaking down the sun sandwich! I think i heard you mention it in about 60% exterior day videos but never fully understood!
Would really like to see you do a video on some set ups, perhaps the alternative set up instead of the sun sandwich, wrapping from the sunshine. Noobs like me need to learn which gear and clamps etc lol
At 7:37 you say that in case we can get mucho level from the bouce we would have to diffuse the light. In this case with a wide anamorphic lens, I wonder how could you put a diffuser between the sun and actor without see the cstands on shot?
I been nerdin' out on dis kinda' stuff, and you sir, have a wonderful way of speaking and drawin' ova da shots, so dat some really complex ideahs' are unda'standable. felt like I had a whole 3 hour college lecture boiled down inta 10 minutes.
I love the Lightning of your studio, could you please do a breakdown ?
What is a "neg"? Is it a flag to block light from bouncing back to the talent's face? 7:14
And when you measure exposure you measure from the bounce of the sun sandwich right?
Thank you for this content and please could you add the link to the ads as well. Thank you so much.
Learning alot from this channel
don’t sound so surprised
can you breakdown the room lighting in your studio?
@WanderingDP What lens do you think was used for the shots of them talking to the camera. :48 -
What lens were those wide portrait shots, shot with?
Great stuff here mate thank you
Alexis -Zabé-, Mexican DP, amazing guy.
What lens captured these amazing environmental wide shots of the subjects?
i was thinking 18mm or 16mm aspherical because of the sharpness
Great detailed vid, my question is if you're using a 12x12 to wrap, will you have to flag that bounce as well to prevent it from wrapping around the entire face or would you just adjust the angle of the 12x12 to prevent it from bouncing too much light on shadow side?
Angle
"Maybe you like sandwiches. A lot of people do."
I'm dead because of laughing
Thanks, mate. I just learned heaps!
The soundblankets you link to, do you use those as permanent set ups in your office or do you also take them with you? Are they durable enough or would you recommend just using moving blankets instead?
Permanent
@@wanderingdp thanks
Just found this channel. Super useful and love the chill vibe!
"Equations" haha I love it. I'd love to see a breakdown of Chinatown
easy with the stereotypes
@@wanderingdp Your right my apologies, I'd like to see a breakdown of Roman Polanski's 1974 movie that stars Jack Nicholson & Faye Dunaway.
Great breakdown. But something tells me the client was far more interested in the number of celebs they could get than the finer points of creative choices. (If most of my clients have been anything to go by). Love the channel. Subscribed.
Hi, I produce a lot of educational content and many ask for a drawing overlay solution, Im Curious; what kind of pen and pad, and software to overlay it to the video do you use? All the best
Dude who are you and why didn't I know you? You re amazing.
If there was any video that summed up my mind while watching videos...it's this.
Anyone have the link to the Ad?
Great video! Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Appreciate you, man.
That guy with the equations at the back is Buzz Aldrin right and not Johnny Cash?
close but no.
errr. can we get a breakdown of you shoot your own bits to camera... big powerplay for me in the next zoom group meeting.
It would be really interesting to see how some of the other more produced/lit-looking portraits were 'lit' - eg the woman under the highway
this is so fire dude
I always love watching your breakdowns! *thanks for not having a 15 second music "intro" at the beginning of your videos. Ha
do you know which artificial light did they use for that spot to light the peoples face? greetings
Dammit man, Can I come assist for you?! I've been looking for this type of breakdown nearly my entire (shortish) professional life! Art Streiber did it for a while on his IG but this is fantastic!
Yes
What is the name of initial video?
love your videos bro
Could you do an episode on composition? Sometimes really strange compositions are used in very big commercials, it could be very interesting hearing your take on those. How does it happen when directors and cinematographers come to the conclusion that - lets make this ad look strange?
you’d be amazed how bored you can get with life
Thank you for the breakdown!
I don't think there's a big diffuser to the left. I think there's another big white shed. Look at the tractor wheels. Wheels furthest from us have harsh shadows. The ones closer to us have reflected light, and lower contrast. If you work with hammers all day everything looks like a nail.
The rear wheels are protected from the sky light and are deeper into the shadow on the floor. So they're not a proof of what you're saying.
Even then it was a choice from the DP. He could do the wrap if he wanted to.
Occam’s razor
@@wanderingdp I like it when I get a reply with a reference to something I was recently researching (Occam's razor). Synchronicity.
Anybody got a link to this IBM Ad??
I’ve always wondered, how do you shoot a wide shot of a subject looking out big windows during the day and light the subject while still exposing for outside the windows?
Probably really powerful lights...depends on what you mean exactly. What position is the subject in in relation to the window and in frame?
Some Vids the subject is facing the camera, camera pointed directly at the window. Framing for full body or 3/4
big lights
Wandering DP shooting through diffusion behind camera?
Sick video
thankyou very much for sharing !!
Great breakdown. Learned alot!
i stopped a big bang theory episode as i saw this video was online, strange transition for me haha
I’d say good taste winning the day
Thank you
Buzz Aldrin hahahah! with your comment about the moon, 3/4 of the cinematographers will be disappointed! :D
At least the footage was backlit. Kubrick knew his studf
@@wanderingdp :D the guy was a good actornaut, his talent can be seen in this commercial: ruclips.net/video/YGoK1mISSuY/видео.html
@@wanderingdp 😂
What if it was shot intentionally for a distinct look, he is after all, I think the only rural worker in the video, working under the harsh sun, out in the dust and dirt? Or is it just better or common practice for corporate ads to make light always wrap around? Legit question here. :)
Sandwich or a wrap - I shall now remember...
Devils advocate he is walking past another white barn that is reflecting soft light on subject left.
love it man
Such a great channel!
I'm more bothered by the clipped sky than the sandwich, I mean if I had so many stops of light to play with, I would never want the sky to clip that harshly.
Its such a soft gradient of sky though I feel it works fine. Maybe being a farmer they wanted to accentuate the harsh outdoors or something?
Good demonstration. I would make the case the "sun sandwich" is often naturally occurring, especially in urban environments. If the sun is 3/4 rear, and someone is walking on a sidewalk a building is often acting as an opposite bounce in the exact same way. This guy could also be standing next to another white farm structure in front of him. Obviously, the story and project dictate all these choices.
I would make the case that the sun sandwich always looks bad even when naturally occurring.
When it doubt go with what looks nice
@@wanderingdp are we strictly talking commercial portrait vignettes? New to your channel.
I prefer a wrap to a sun sanga
The future will be kind to you
Yessss!! #2
can you please do a video on exportin to not be violated by all this compression. i use a bmpcc4k and i cant even let people see me creations. especially for twitter ive used so many tutorials and no matter what i do my stuff gets crushed so insanely its not recognizable.
Cant you just upload in 4k? Even if its upscaled it is given a higher bitrate to work with.
"unless you're vegetarian, then he is the........arugula" hahahaha
He is so thougthful. I feel seen :D
Ha, this was great. Informative and fun as always.
Got an unrelated question: How do you attach a 120d to a photek softlighter?
Duct tape and rage.
@@wanderingdp I knew it. It was the only option that made sense to me.
Cool