How Strong Now is Neuvillette with Furina? Neuvillette Before vs Now Comparisons! Is He Now More OP?
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- Опубликовано: 7 ноя 2023
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4.2 Genshin Impact
A gameplay comparisons and damage showcases between Neuvillette Before (Patch 4.1) versus Neuvillette Now in Patch 4.2!!! Did Furina really made Neuvillette More OP Now than before??? - Игры
Neuvillette before: broken
Neuvillette after: broken
"People misunderstand, furina doesn't make c0 Neuvillette op, she makes c1 neuvillette op" Certainly, that is indeed accurate. However, it is imperative to consider the adverse impact that Furnia's actions may have on the team, as this can also significantly influence the overall outcome. Such as her damage from skill.
also jean in this team can make C0 neuvillette C1 in some situations because her burst swirl elements (cryo/electro/pyro) that enemies can apply to ur character , and therefore it gives neuvillette the 3rd stack
People misunderstand, furina doesn't make c0 Neuvillette op, she makes c1 neuvillette op
Im lucky I got his C1. Will see if I can get Furinas too
LMAO, the video maker wasnt know wht stupid thing he was posting
This is depressing. Gonna wait for hydro dragon to rerun then 🚶🏻♀️
Pretty much less practical to use furina on HP lose mechanics anyway...i rather put her on Dps unit like yoimiya , hutao or ayato so they can take advantage of marchusse hunter set...
Exactly.
Thats why I got him C1.
It’s funny how people are blinded by neuvi not being able to reach his passive max stacks and his personal damage being a bit lower while ignoring that:
1-furina’s personal damage contribute more than fischl in his team.
2-furina ´s buff is so stupid that with hydro resonance it outperform the dps gain from the 2nd to 3rd stack of his passive when maxed
3- It was clear that neuvi cleared with one CA (He is doing 3 in a rotation) so fanfare stacks weren’t maxed and the rotation was shorter so the practical difference would’ve been a bit more important ( and neuvi’s personnal damage would be higher)
In short: according to most of reliable sources at c0 neuvi furina jean shielder has around 10-15% more damage than neuvi kazuha fischl shielder although neuvi dps gain isn’t that high. And If you can use baizhu Kazuha or kazuha+healer if you are confident enough the difference will be larger
Funny thing is Furina itself is very niche buffer requiring another AOE healer (like jean) and building stacks, bt even with all that setup and restrictions and hp drain, she is still Pure Trash as can be seen from the video
I would much preffer a kazuha than a Jean + zhongli with archiac Petra is really good
@@seeker777 bro is on that cope tank lol....Furina is the most important character for fontaine comps and it will only get better, I have Furina and I wish I had two so I could use her in both abyss teams she is soo fking good.
Furina is tailor-made for Neuvillette its obvious...and there will be characters out in the future which will allow the third stack without needing c1
@@seeker777 4 months later and most teams use her
Neuvillette is too strong, with or without her
Here’s hoping that Cloud Retainer will be an Anemo aoe healer who can buff elements, that would be the perfect versatile healer to put in most Furina teams (I know it’s too good to be true)
hello i am from the future, cloud retainer is indeed a healer, good luck for your pulls on xianyun
It might seem crazy what I'm about to say
Neuvillete c1r1, furina , jean c2 vv , fischl c6 . Is for now my team
Surprisingly, furina buffs c1+ neuv the most, at c0 her buffs were barely stronger than when you are to use zhongli fischl kazuha instead.
Can she buff characters other than c0 neuvellite???
If by surprisingly you mean totally expected
@@Atem1995 believe it or not, a lot of people expected furina to override most of c0 neuv team by a large margin, which didn't happen to the top neuv teams pre furina, I've seen some disappointed reactions and felt that furina for c0 neuv was not a large increase. Some people expected too much
@@AlmightyRaidenEi pretty much any dps that doesn't rely on transformative damage. Some of the notable dpses that got buffed are:
Wriothesley
Yoimiya(although a bit clunky)
Hu tao
Ayaka(Is debatable, some said she got better but some said the staple kazuha kokomi shenhe is still better)
Noelle
Wanderer
Cyno
Furina is more of a team damage amplifier rather than a DPS personal damage amplifier especially with C0 Neuvilette since he cannot have 3 stacks.
To clarify;
Furina is only a large increase to neuvillette if hes c1+.
That's a lie
@@kingsky9813 not really no, at c0 neuvi can't get his max draconic stacks if furina is on his team which results in her hardly giving an overall increase to his dps. This is fixed at c1 where he only needs 2 other elements instead of 3 so furina can fit in without disturbing draconic stacks.
@@YukiKitsune361 You're correct but that's not really the right way to view it imo. Yes Neuvillette loses 1 draconic stack in the Furina team, but the buffs Furina give are much greater than the stack he loses.
The issue is the fact that C0 Neuvillette doesn't have interruption resistance and Furina needs you to have a healer on your team.
As a result, Neuvillette loses extra buffs by needing to bring a healer to front load her buffs faster, and C0 Neuvillette can get slapped out of his CA without a Shielder.
What C1 Neuvillette changes with Furina is removing the healer slot all together to bring a better subdps/support.
@@ThisLuvee neuvillette alone can handle fanfare pretty well since he has massive regen and hp consumption.
He needs 3 draconic stacks for maximum dmg output. Furinas buff is only adding onto the 2/3 which is hardly an increase as an end result.
@@YukiKitsune361However, she does have significant personal damage, hydro resonance and makes swirl setups more flexible thanks to her off field hydro applications, so overall she might not be a detriment to C0 Neuvilette teams.
man saving for 5 months came in clutch cuz i got c1 furina with her weapon am saving for furina c2 and neuvillette c1 + weapon
Damn next i will get c1 nuvi
The video shows Neuvillete killing faster with Furina. The coments: Neuvillette team is better without Furina. 😂😂😂
they didnt even get the maxed stacks because the enemy gets easily killed😭😭😭
When i random coop, my neuvilette do 100k+ dmg. And Casually do 50-30k dmg. My C0 neuvilette with prototype amber. Party is kazuha, furina, and nahida. Idk why kazuha swirl pyro... ...amazing..
A better example could be to use kazuha with bizu or Mika with furina and Neuvillite (c1 only)
What if I add some characters with resistance for interrupting? Will that solves lacking c1?
Yeah but have fun getting b1tch slapped by every enemy
At C0 Neuvillette wont be able to get all his passive stacks with Furina and his 3rd stack is the biggest dmg boost.
At C1 Neuvillette already gains 1 passive stack so you can run double Hydro therefore making Furina his best sup but only at C1
The highest damage in first team is 46k and the furina team is 42k, maybe because furina talent is lvl 8 and neuvilette stack not 3. Imagine how much damage neuvilette can do with c1 and max lvl talent furina
make sense
Yes,but in furina team neuvillette damages is more consistent cuz of furina buff duration
dont forget furina off-field dmg too
The thing is the first team do have Kazuha
I dont have kazuha, neuvillete's c1 nor festering desire for furina. Only thing i can offer to my furina is- Zhongli+vv shred & furina's g bonus. I intende on getting neu's c1 on rerun. I used both my gurrantee on Neu & Furina and now m totally broke. Wont be able to pull for navia
Neuv without furina deal more personal damage due to draconic stack
But neuv with furina deal more damage as Team
when will he come back?
C0 neuvillette with sig weapon is stronger than c0 neuvillette with c0 furina I hit 52 k without furina and with furina 45k but she also gives sub dps attack so neuvillette without c1 hypercarry better with sig weapone
Furina does 30-40% dmg of nevui in 20 secs window
why use jean in 2nd team not kazuha? for healer? is it bigger dmg if 2nd team kazuha jean nuvi furryna?
Furina needs a dedicated healer for her Fanfare stacks
Kazuha is just for showcase unless you have a healer in the last slot (which mean no interruption resistance) while with Jean your maximum damage is less but the overall damage is higher on prolonged fights( and in spiral abyss in general)
Bro why no 1 compare Kazuha's elemental damage bonus... Jean doesnt give that thing so you cant really compare both team
Puedes probar Baizhu, Kazuha, Furina y Niuvillette? creo que es bastante mejor.
Nel es peor, Zhongli y Jean siguen siendo mejores por que uno el escudo de Zhongli es más fuerte y baja res. y Jean además de curar muchísimo, también baja res. Así que de momento Jean sigue siendo el mejor healer con Furina por el simple hecho de ser anemo, healer y poder llevar verde esmeralda
@@edencorsss Kazuha baja resistencia y da bono de daño elemental, con su bajada de resistencia, ni se nota la bajada de Zhongli, ademas, con C1, no es necesario su escudo, tenes tanta vida que no te pegan nada casi, Kazuha junta mejor a los enemigos, y de una elemental Baizhu cura, y proximamente estara el set se Healers, y eso ara que Baizhu pueda llevar otro que no sea perla oseanica, haciendo que sea mejor aun de lo que es.
@@segador3212 yo he probado lo que dices y Baizhu no pinta nada con Neuvi por que no le aporta nada realmente más que el healing, y aunque tengas a Neuvi c1, usar a Zhongli tampoco resulta negativo por que si se nota muchísimo su bajada de res no sé que dices, aunque claro si tienes a Neuv c1 es mejor poner otra cosa por que no es necesario el escudo
y como dije, Jean además de ser healer, es anemo y bajas resistencias con verde esmeralda, y aunque como bien dices en la teoría Kazuha es mejor por que hace cosas que Jean no hace (como juntar y dar daño elemental), por como funciona Furina y su kit, en la práctica Jean sigue siendo mucho mejor por que ya cumple dos roles a la vez, por lo que si usas a Kazuha en vez de Jean, además de obtener de manera muy lenta las cargas de la ulti de furina, en la primera rotación si notas mucho el daño pero en la segunda rotación como medio equipo tiene solo la mitad de vida, no estarán generando ningún punto de algarabía, por lo que pierdes daño irremediablemente, además estás olvidando que de por si Furina ya da el suficiente bono de daño como para que no sea necesario usar cáliz de hydro o usar a Kazuha para boostear el daño de Neuv
y el único escenario donde puedes quitar a Jean y poner a Kazuha es con una Furina c2 (o c1 aunque no es buena idea) por que ya por cada 1% de vida que gane o pierda el equipo se genera el triple de rápido, así que el mismo Neuv él solito ya da todas las cargas de algarabía sin necesidad de otro healer
@@segador3212 y aunque el nuevo set si va a aportar a todos los healers hasta ahora, en el caso de Baizhu al ser dendro te interesa llevarlo como aplicador de este mismo elemento en varios equipos enfocados en dicha reacción y de manera off fiel (como una segunda nahida pero healer) por lo que suele ser mejor opcion usar el set de dendro para bajar resistencia por ejemplo en su quipo con Cyno por que Baizhu es el único dendro del equipo
@@edencorsss primero empezemos con lo primero, Zhongli en ese equipo no sirve casi nada su bajada de resistencia, Kazuha o Jean con verde esmeralda, baja un total de 40% las resistencias de dicho elemento, la mayoria de monstruos del juego (por no decir casi todos) tienen o inmunidad a algun elemento, o tienen una resistencia al mismo del 10%, y cuando sa baja menos que eso, la reduccion de resistencia pasa a ser la mitad, dicho esto.
Sombra Verde baja un total de 40% de resistencias del elemento, 10% los baja completos, y los otros 30% se dividen a la mitad, dando un total de 15% menos de resistencia, que pasa con Zhongli entonces?
Zhongli da una bajada de 20% y como ya sombra verder baja un 40% el valor de esa bajada disminuye a menos de la mitad, dejandolo en solo 10%, que a rasgos de calculos, es un aumento demaciado pequeño.
Con lo de Jean y Kazuha, Jean nada mas sirve para meter otro slot de daño en el lugar de Zhongli, puede ser una Fishl, Xianling si te gusta, Beidou o una Raiden como mucho, ese es el unico caso que es mejor que Kazuha.
Y en el caso del bono de daño, lo que haces poniendole caliz de vida a Niuvi, esta bien, pero aun asi el bono de daño no capea, solo disminuye la cantidad de efectividad comparandolo con otros stats mejores como puede ser la vida, superando el 120% de bono de daño.
Ahora, en el caso de eso de la rotacion con Kazuha y demas que dijiste, cuando hacemos la comparacion de las cargas de Furina, lo hacemos con Baizhu en el mismo equipo con Kazuha, y Baizhu es lo mismo que Jean, de una elemental bien buildeado, casi que te cura toda la vida bajada por Furina, y si lo llevas con Prototipo ambar, como es lo normal, vida de 50 mil, te cura con la elemental a todos, y con la ulty sigue curando progresivamente a todos, haciendo que te de las cargas de Furina de forma muy comoda, ademas de que los enemigos a diferencia del equipo que dices, no tienen que quedarse en un mismo lugar, podes atraerlos con Kazuha, la cura de Jean que ocurre en el area, con Baizhu ocurre de manera personal, podes moverte a tu antojo por todo el lugar.
Ahora, hablando de Jean, si no tenes a Kazuha, o queres usarlo para otro equipo, es una buena opcion para ponerla, pero si no necesitas a el ni a Baizhu en otro equipo, podes ponerlo tranquilamente y sera mas comodo, y ara mas daño en general, Kazuha atrae, da un bono de daño que a rasgos, es mas fuerte que el poco 10% de bajada de resistencias que te dara Zhonglu, y si, atrae enemigos, eso baja muchisimo el tiempo de las salas, y mas con Niuvillette, que enemigos en linea, y les pegas mas.
Baizhu te genera las cargas bien de algarabi, con su elemental, prototipo amba, cura personal a alguien, mas Niuvillette y su bajada de vida, y la sobrecura del talento se Furina, las conseguis muy rapido, y no es necesario su C2.
En mi caso, yo llevo a Niuvillette con C1 asi en el primer equipo, y en el segundo uno con Nahida, Yelan, Kuki y Alhacen en la segunda parte, pero tambien tengo a Cyno, si lo uso en la segunda parte le pongo a Baizhu, y ahi cambio a Zhonglu y Jean en el primer equipo.
En conclusion, Baizhu cura igual, Kazuha junta enemigos y su bono completo es mas que Zhongli, no es necesario quedarse en un area, genera la algarabia de manera perfecta con un Baizhu bien buildeado, y si lo tenes con perla oceanica como es mi caso, hace daño tambien eso.
En lo que respecta a jean, si no te sobran los personajes, o queres usar otro sub dps es mejor, pero con el equipo de mono hydro, es mejor la dupla Baizhu y Kazuha, de echo, haciendo bien rotaciones, y con una Charlotte bien buildeada, Charlotte es la mejor, pero no la buildee todavia.
I have 180% er for furina w Neuvi but the stacks reset after the second rotation although i Maxed the fanfare stacks in the first rotation. I dont know if its bugged or not
They get indeed reseted with each q cycle. You will always start from 0 unless you have C1 than 150
@@DragonAlex1 well then the skill description is really misleading then
i do neuvillette furina yae jean and they crazy
I got neuvillette weapon instead of homa, the weapon is too op with my hunter ningguang + furina and my artifact rolls is also great, really wish to get him next rerun,
Also, homa pls come home next time
please make same with wriothesley
Furina didn't get max fanfare
So whats the best team for C0 Neuvillette?
Kazuha, fishcl/shogun and zhongli/layla
Nah bruh, Hoyo did what they intended from the very begining
Pull C1 to make him work with Furina.
For not upsetting the Players With and without furina does the same dmg bruh
🙀😨😱🙀😨😱🙀😨😱
Also Jean Furina = Kazuha
It's more than that.
since furina demands a healer and healers offer absolutely nothing offensively (be it damage or buffs), neuvi actually performs worse in these new furina teams. The rotation however is much, much smoother which is a plus in my book. Still, i think people overhype her Q.
Yeah, because zhongli damage contribution is great
@@crackshmoker7080 zhongli damage contribution is indeed great, not only he shreds 20% hydro resistance, but he also gives neuvillette 35% hydro dmg by picking up hydro crystal shard with petra set
@@dneprik6521jean provides res shred with vv and using the petra set is super uncomfortable and lasts for only 1 neuvillete ca and besides if you have C2 jean which is quite common she also provides 15 atk speed to neuvillete wich translate to one more tick of dmg
@@dneprik6521 Furina amps Neuvi damage up more than Zhongli regardless, just look at the numbers
@@Alexcreeper98 more than zhongli but she's hydro, means neuv will have 2 stacks instead of 3, and 3 stacks + zhongli gives more dmg for neuv than 2 stacks + furina (and to clear misunderstanding, im talking about neuvillettes personal dmg only, in team dmg furina wins)
Without C1 not much, this is no secret... because he looses one Stack of his passive...
Get hydro resonance, 18s damage bonus buff that is better than Kazuha and Furina's personal damage.
You can still do Neuvillete Furina Kazuha Zhongli because Neuvillete will overheal himself so it'll also trigger Furina's passive resulting in better Fanfare stack.
The whole team outperforms greatly with furina compared to without.
I feel like neuvillette is one of the characters with the worst synergy with furina…
He already gives himself 160% dmg bonus, Kazuha on top gives 30-40% dmg bonus, thats 200% dmg bonus I don’t know if getting more than that is worth running a healer. Marchausse also gives 15% btw.
+ he already can run marchausse so he doesn’t need furina for that.
neuvi c1 is somewhat an exception:
assuming hes running hp% hp% crit, c1
215% -> 215 - 285%…
if its hp%, dmg%, crit%
261% -> 261% - 331%…
the maximum dmg bonus is pretty good but you need to keep your team healthy.
No c1 Neuvillette even makes it much worse. (hp%hp%crit%)
215% -> 175% - 235%…
(hp%dmg%crit%)
261% -> 211% - 281%
Thats not a super powerful buff imo.
though even with c1, you need to consider:
is it worth it? Because you lose 1 dmg dealing team member in the form of a healer if you use furina. (otherwise buffing is very weak, takes too long to stack.)
Furina in my opinion is only worth it if you
1. have neuvi c1,
2. plan to use kazuha for another team
3. Need a healer for your neuvi team anyway.
Any of these 3 reasons can make furina more worth it, but I’d say neuvi c1 is more of a requirement for anything with furina.
Forgot to mention that without c1, neuvillette is annoyingly easy to get knocked out from his charged which does consume the orbs regardless.
This makes it that you either need a sheild + healer, which is generally speaking a weak healer who cant heal the full party (exception of baizhu)
or you need both a sheild and a healer which is…
a bunch of dmg gone. (beidou c1 can save yall here.)
Is neuvi c1 with furina+kazuha+ Charlotte worth it??
@@ele0707 Sure…?
This is still opinion and I’m mostly talking about the diminishing returns from dmg% , Neuv’s passive, and stagger risk without wasting teammates - Neuv C1 practically gets rid of all the main downsides.
Using both furina and kazuha is just personal preference, as of now it still is viable as there arn’t many independent subdps units that don’t require attacks.
but keep in mind that you will stack on some of neuvillette’s already strong suits (not needing a grouper and already having ridiculous dmg%) by using kazuha.
Charlotte, with freeze, also just stacks onto the fact with more cc.
Naturally if you don’t plan on playing dizzy impact feel free to stick with the grouping.
Did anyone else notice after 4.2 Neuvillette eyes glow when doing burst and it didn’t before? Maybe it’s bc he has the hydro archon power now ❤
They are very much glowing before lmao
that is some Mandela effect shi right there
They been like that
Does c2 Jean increase nuevulitte attack speed?
No, his CA doesn't benefit from attack speed
@@_sanygame_921is there any buff for charge attack speed? If not what a fucking lame for genshin lol
Why furina is good with neuvilette?
My C3 Neuvi ass still prefer moral support Childe there compared to having Furina. I use my C2 Furina on other team, something about Level 14 CA feels unholy and the raw damage feels illegal hahaha
Why i should read all these comments of brainless people saying Kazuha is better than Furina or you should swap Jean with Kazuha.
Didnt you see the first team wins in 19 seconds and the Furina team wins in just 15 seconds???? What the F are you all talking about.
Next time put a timer when you make these comparisons this way even people without a brain will be able to understand how Furina is much better (and she wasnt even at talent level 10 here)...
Lo veo bastante parejo, y es que el electrocargado de nebullett se potencia a si mismo por su pasiva.
En cambio el furina optienes 75%dmg pero a cambio de cambiar un soporte o sub dps por un healer.
En este caso al perder los electrocargados lo compensas con furina pero el daño total no se expande a una diferencia significativa, no entiendo porque a furina la nerfearon para que su elemental no curara a todos, me parece realmente estúpido por parte de los creadores dañar a un arconte por su ridícules de obligar a llevar healer como si toda la comunidad fuera una bola de mancos.
Tremendo diseño de personaje para que lo arruinaran con sus estúpidas mecánicas mal hechas, como mierda me vas a dar una elemental qué cura pero no a todos los del equipo, osea prácticamente me estas dando una habilidad basura.
Si su elemental curara a todos sería mucho mejor ya que no tendrías que sacrificar en poner un asqueroso healer qué básicamente son los roles más idiotas del juego en solo aportar más que solo curación, no hay buf no hay nada.
Igualmente a futuro la sacaré a c2 pero ni creas hoyoverse qué meteré un centavo por tus personajes y mecánicas de mierda mal hechas.
totalmente, si furina curase bien, bua brutal
Hoyoverse tiene todo calculado
En la 4.3 vendrá el nuevo set para los healers
@@UsuarioRandom-ee6ii ooo cuentanos mas
Bad comparision. You replaced Kazuha and Fischl. With Zhongli and Jean and those are both Support that don't do good dmg. If you used Kazuha and Charlotte, Mika or Baizhu you would have gotten a much better result
agreed, kazuha gives more buff & consistent vv shred than jean does. I tried neuvi-furina-kazu-baizhu and it ways better than this actually
this zhongli is using petra, which gives 35% dmg bonus and 20% shred. thats basically a kazuha buff already
I think this feels a lot more like a comparison between Furina's buff and Kazuha's buff, with Furina has more advantages than Kazuha (hydro resonance and Jean). But Furina is also a sup dps and her buff lasts longer, but both of them can be used together with Neu anyway. Zhongli is the one getting replaced here so I think a better comparison would be Zhongli + Fischl/other off field sup DPS and non Zhongli + Furina team
@@chil800 yes since Jean + Zhongli is too much defensive and we are comparing dmg.
@@dickhead1950 because u can see in video Zhongli running and getting that crystallize, if he didn't have Petra, he wouldn't run to get it
Now without foods
Cut it out
Like 1% more if hes not at c1
only 2% stronger wow ,they did to him dirty bc his c1
C0 Furina + C0 Neuve = Neuve + Fischl
C1 Furina + C0 Neuve C0 = Kazuha C0 + Neuve C0
C1 Neuve + C0 Furina = Kazuha C2 + Yelan C2
Yeahhh everyone kept saying surely Furina will make him more OP… but since she needs a healer she further restricts his team even for c1 Neuvi. I pulled her only for Neuvi and now I’m a bit disappointed. Kazuha is simply too invaluable. I’m personally underwhelmed with Furina
Exactly what I'm feeling rn. Fur will certainly make him more OP but it's just not the right time even with Baizha/Charlotte. Coping that Sigewinne will fix these issues.
@@benchewy7842 why do u need another hydro unit? For more hp?
@@benchewy7842 talking normally is hard for ur arrogant as* I see
Not really. Neuvillete loses life and heals himself really well, he can get her stacks without a healer.
this is just super pessimistic for no reason, I have C0 Neuv and Furina (c1 now but even with c0 this wasnt that big a deal), Neuvillette almost maxxes out the Damage buff just after 2 charged attacks all by himself. As someone without Kazuha, Furina just boosted my account by a lot, its incredible too cuz so long as you have a healer she is a hugely viable unit in most teams, but for Neuvillette, especially if you have Proto Amber on him, works perfectly well with her and you can totally get away without a healer, sure its not "maximizing" but at that point you should expect to change your team comps or pull for cons, dont expect to max everything out always just with no investment or effort that's not the point lol
Hydro res + 60-70% damage boost to entire team with Neuvillette is insane lol... + if you do have a healer maxing out the 75% bonus thats well worth swapping out kazuha, since you can then have him on another team if youre desperate for spiral abyss...
Not to mention she does damage herself and buffs other chars damage depending on ur comp that can be even more valuable.
I don't get the complaint.
People are just hyping furina because of the fanfair points when the fact that neuv still needs 3 stacks (c1) to deal more dmg so furina coping for c1 neuv not c0. Its just the way it is!! shes still viable but not a need if u have kazuha then just use kazuha lmao theyre just same. Kazuha is for short faster buffing then furina is for long duration buff
Furina's buff can exceed more than Neu's 3 stacks at C0. Plus, you gain hydro resonance. It's a win-win.
bro kazuha's boost is more than jean's boost remove jean and put kazuha in the furina team -_- the comparison is literally unfair in this vid
Bro. Jean or healer is needed if there’s furina(In order to get furina stacks faster) this is reasonable comparison. -_-
Good luck having furina buff without team healers
Bruhhh
Overall furina is not a must pull; skipping for navia
@@Kar76060 no 5 stars are must pull in this game, only 4* cons and some gacha weapons