Paul, Islamic Spiritual Psychology (Tasawwuf) is an important topic. Unfortunately 20th century pseudo-sufis have brought a bad name to this science. We need to make the authentic practice of this science accessible to people. Unfortunately, this is not something one can gain by reading; this is an experiential science and requires regular practice under the deft guidance of someone who has mastered this science. That requires retreat kind of settings or regular interaction with a practitioner. I was fortunate to attend such sessions and have felt the transformational impact. However, Muslim Psychologists, like Abdullah Rothman, who have an understanding of Islamic model of the "self" (interaction between the four "elements": nafs, ruh, qalb, aql) can incorporate some of the recommendations from Tasawwuf to enhance their practice. Abu Zayd al-Balkhi, who was a physician around 900 CE, was the first to successfully discuss diseases related to both the body and the soul in an integarted manner. Dr. Malik Badri, a psychiatrist, has written a book on Abu Zayd and his ideas and is available on Amazon. "Abu Zayd al-Balkhi's Sustenance of the Soul: The Cognitive Behavior Therapy of A Ninth Century Physician"
I am currently reading Al Balkhi Sustinanse Of The Soul , which is translated to Swidish . Dr. Badri translated the psychological section- Cognitive Behavioral Therapya. Dr. Malik Badri is My great uncle and was my mentor may his soul rest in peace passed away in 2020. Thank you for this interview. Oh.. Dr. Abdullah was briefly my daughter's therapist in Virginia US, before he left to UAE. Tha k you so much.
Tasawwuf unfortunately is not Islam not at all related to Islam it's a different kinda perspective and practice that most certainly is associated with spirituality but has no connection to Islam and shouldn't have actually if you dig deep I don't think being a Muslim I can even agree the first motive statement of it our religion is a lot based on being present the knowledge of existence and akhirah
I am a sufi student of Mujadid/Nakshband sufi order , by the grace of Allah SWT it is easy to distinguish between, pseudo sufis and the real one, the barometer is one The Sunnah, and taqleed of imams of Ahlé Sunnah Waljama'ah and successors.
This channel just keeps getting better and better! I'm a mental health therapist who has been studying Islam for a while, and I have been wondering how Islam and psychology could be integrated.
I’ve also been studying Islam for its many health benefits especially to overcome mental health challenges. Apparently issues related to OCD were documented in Arabic back in the 9th century in almost the same format as the DSM. A student had shown her professor whose surname was spelled Koran and once translated he started hoppping around with joy at the discovery. 😅 It made me giggle when she was explaining the story, i think it was a talk on Jannah Institute i will try to locate it 4 ya before settling to watch this episode as i like this chaps work already so looking forward to this 💖 🤲
May Allah bless you tremendously with knowledge and wisdom of Islamic Psychology , so that knowledge and skills be applied to help fix derailed minds effectively . May Allah help you help His needy creation . May you become the best psychologist . Ameen
@Charles here is an extra link you may find useful its not the same one i previously mentioned but its a great resource ruclips.net/video/mN-ta8Xi_Mo/видео.html
@@786humaira1 May Allah also bless you in your efforts to spread information on this wonderful way of life 😊 and thankyou 4 your kind words here 💖I’ve just subscribed to your channel and will look forward to your content and trying to boost your reach with some 👍👍👍 Now… Time to listen and learn i have much catching up to do here ;xD 🥰 🤲
Alhamdullilah for this ❤ I’m a psychologist and now a revert to Islam. I’m keen to incorporate Islam into my practise but had no idea how or where to start
And if i may suGest, try to understand Qada and Qadar.. it's the cure for any PsyCholoGical isSue.. Do you know why there is almost no PsyCholoGist in a muslim maJority country? Coz the Statistic Rate for geNeral stRess is low.. Everyone believe what they have is the best for them in this dunya.. and their hope is in The Mercy of Allah in the HereAfter.. I reGret studying PsyCholoGy in a muslim maJority country you know.. there is almost no Job if not for some Rich reBeLious Teens.. lol..
Dr. Rothman also has some brilliant papers online that will aid you in this path. Islamic psychology work is a whole world of gems. You're going to love it.
Try checking out Gabriel Al-Romani on YT, he's also a convert (for a very long time) and also a psychologist. He talks a lot about men and women as well. I'm not sure if that's exactly what you want, but it can be a start.
5 Soul medicine 1. Reading the Qur'an and its meaning. The Qur'an is the holy book of Islam which contains the words of Allah SWT. In addition, the Qur'an is said to be a guide to human life. Allah SWT said in Surat Al-Isra verse 82, which means: "And We sent down from the Qur'an something that is a cure and a mercy for those who believe and the Qur'an does not add to the wrongdoers other than loss." 2. Establish night prayer (Tahajjud). Night prayers like tahajud prayers have many benefits besides being able to draw closer to Allah SWT. Through the prayer that is offered can make peace for anyone who performs it. 3. Gather with righteous people. If you want to be a good person, be friends with good people. Similarly, if you want to be righteous, gather with those who are righteous. Allah SWT said in Surat Al Kahfi verse 28, which means: "And be patient together with those who call upon their Lord in the morning and evening hoping for His pleasure, and do not turn your eyes away from them (due to) hoping for the ornaments of this world , and do not follow the person whose heart We have neglected from remembering Us, and follow his lust and his condition is beyond the limit." 4. Increase Fasting. Fasting is one of the recommended acts of worship in Islam. In addition to resisting hunger, thirst and lust, fasting can also prevent a person from reprehensible acts. There are obligatory fasts in the month of Ramadhan as well as those that are sunnah such as the fast of David, the fast of Monday and Thursday, the fast of Arafah, the fast of Ashura, and so on. 5. Do more dhikr at night. Zikr is remembering Allah SWT with the aim of drawing closer to Him. The command to remember is found in the Qur'an, chapter Al-Ahzab verse 41, which means: "O you who believe, remember (by mentioning the name of) Allah, remember as much as possible." this is the custom in our country and our scholars have always conveyed to us this formula.
@@JunaidKhan-vw3dx sorry for the late reply...we as humans can only choose and try what is best for what we choose but the main thing, based on my comment above, is that is the main standard in ISLAM...Indeed, sometimes our choices in life are not in accordance with what we expected and try not to damage ourselves and others...that is why in ISLAM, we It is recommended to associate with good people because the main thing is peace of mind.
To my fellow brothers and sisters from other faiths, Islamic spiritual psychology (Tasawwuf, or The Real Sufism, not the sufism adulterated by western "hippies" ) is fascinating topic. If you are a clinical psycholgist and want to learn more about Islamic Spiritual Psychology, consider joining the program offered by Cambridge Muslim College. God Willing, you will benefit rom it. The classical literature on Islamic Spiritual Psycholagy is immense.
I recommend Mr. Paul that you interview Dr. Abdul rahman dhakir Al hashimi, because he is an expert in this topic, as he's leading now the biggest project in the field of Islamic psychology in the Arabian world, and personally I saw his content to be the best of it's kind. He produces the field as a subject, and teaches it in details and structure based upon the Quran, sunnah, and the scholarly tradition, along with taking from the western psychological experience what suits that Islamic narrative as he is well learned about both the narratives, Allahuma barik. And it's so sad that not many non-arabic speaker muslims know him, so I think it might be very beneficial to have him And I think he will be very happy to be interviewed by you.
Shaikh Asim yusuf The Nashid writer is a psychologist and classical scholar now present in Birmingham I think. Worth visiting on line جزاك الله خيرا.. For This ❣️
Amazing! Thank you! I love this discussion about the heart and its role in psychiatry. People suffering from all anxiety disorders present with cardiac, respiratory, and blood pressure symptoms- chest tightness, palpitations, shortness of breath, dizziness, sweating and so on. Hence antihypertensives are used to these symptoms. I have seen so many patients with different beliefs who say “I want to get out of my head”- a sign that solution to disorders or the mind lie elsewhere- heart!
Jazakallah Khairan Paul, recently I also saw a brilliant podcast from One Path Network with Dr. Samir Mahmod, I recommend getting on your podcast as well. He opened my eyes how to purified our fitrah and I learnt understanding from Islamic psychology. He is absolutely brilliant!. Please invite him to your podcast.
What a supremely interesting interview! The transformational aspect of Islam is what I have been looking for. What Dr Rothman says of a transactional form of Islam, that is what my father and I cannot get past in our discussions. He argues that since Muhammad (SAWS) has perfected the religion for us, all we have to do as Muslims is to follow his rulings and example. He argues that Islam is a religion of submission, and therefore denies the possibility of exploration. But, I argued that just like it is the case for Theravada Buddhism (and much less so for Mahayana Buddhism), we have to transform ourselves systematically with a an established methodology as was developed through the ages, I also argued that it is difficult to approach Allah without actually exploring, thereby transforming and ultimately, through our metamorphosis reach a state of being that allows us to understand Islam on a different level. My question, though, is whether this methodology exists in the English Islamic corpus and whether it is as vague as Zen Buddhism, or as clear as Theravada Buddhism?
I think the transformational aspect is more relate to the pursuit of knowledge that changes a person from the inside which complements the mechanical aspect of the following of Prophet's tradition
I think what you are looking for is Ihsan. Islam has three components; Islam, which deals with outward actions and transactions: Iman which deals with all aspects of belief, and Ihsan which deals with attaining a state of being in which one is with Allah as if they see Him. Islam and Iman are a means to the state of Ihsan which in turn transforms them into more organic, more real, more elevated.and alive. Ihsan is a state in which one is inwardly in dhikr of Allah, and outwardly deals with creatures through the framework of the shariah and the Sunnah. It used to be that Muslims took for granted that there were Ulima who specialized in each discipline. Those who specialized in the science of Islam were called Fuqaha, Those who specialized in Ihsan where called Sufis, then came people who dismantled all aspects of Islam unbder the slogan of “back to the Quran and Sunnah” The Majority of Muslims in the Islamic wold still keep this equilibrium but in the west Islam seems to be dominated by this load minority, at least in media/
The answer to your question is in the seerah or life of the prophet Muhammad. His followers were trained in Makkah - transformation- before they established a functioning muslim state in Medinah.
Very interesting: I used to think that we as Muslims believe in a rather Platonic separation of body and spirit. In Chinese medicine, different parts of the so called "spirit" are housed in different organ systems, such as the heart, the liver, the bladder, etc. I wasn't quite aware of the Islamic view of this linkage between the physical and spiritual in the body. Makes me realise that the separation of body and soul might not be as Islamic as I thought - need to dive into the books again.
Surah 13 Ar-Ra’ad, verse 28: Those who believe and whose hearts find satisfaction in the remembrance of Allah: for without doubt, in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find satisfaction. This verse explains a great deal of the anxiety, mental confusion, depression, and suicidal inclinations of people in the West despite the comforts, riches, and technological progress they enjoy.
Hey, alHamduliLah!!! AbdAllah Rothman is my brother from twenty years ago when we were together with Shaykh Sidi al-Jamal at Lake Arrowhead in California! My brother, Paul, if you can reconnect us, that would be great! I will also reach out on Twitter. Allah bless and protect your work, brother Paul!
This is my 2nd video on this channel and I absolutely loved it. Thank you blogging theology! Request/Suggestion: please make a new category/group of playlists on your channel which includes only topic-based playlists (excluding individual-based playlists) because it's difficult picking out topical playlists from that many. thank you.
Wow! This was fascinating and truly enlightening. I find the comparison of the blank slate when entering the world (western ideology) vs being born with a natural disposition, inclined towards truth, goodness, justice and tawheed very eye-opening. Perhaps a lot of our psychological issues stem from the very idea that we were put on this earth by no one, for nothing, to do nothing, and die for nothing. It's only when we understand that there is a higher power and purpose, that we can take a big leap towards healing. InshaAllah. May Allah bless you both for the good work you are doing.
Dr. Raania Awaad has also explored this topic in a similar vein. I am absolutely intrigued by this conversation of Islam and Psychology. Its led my to exploring Islam and pedagogy in education
You should also check out Khalil Center in the US, they provide Islamic psychology services and also do and publish research on Islamic psychology. They are very good mashallah
Thank you, brothers, and with all due respect I feel very confused about what is being said in this video about AlGhazali. Through my personal journey of having an interactive relationship with the Quran and by paying attention to the laws and operations of my own thoughts, emotions and behaviour as I interact with my environment, I have come to WITNESS that the Quran and the duas of the Prophet pbuh as well as his behaviour are in full congruence with the discoverable psychological and sociological laws in the universe and in my own life. I grew quickly in self-knowledge and psychological health by following the Prophet Mohammed as a model. All his actions were dictated by the Creator that's why he was in balance with the laws of cause and effect in every area of life- psychologically, sociologically etc. He was, in a constant state of internal self-regulation of his thoughts (istighfar 70 times a day) for optimal psychological health. Great psychologists like Carl Rogers discovered an important law of psychology -a process-oriented approach to self- knowledge and psychological wellbeing in an atmosphere of unconditional acceptance by the therapist but it was still limited because his theory did not include the concept of full self-actualization through our psychological relationship with God. God has been my greatest psychologist. When I became honest and surrendered, I overcame my depression and addictions. I use my 5 daily prayers to stay surrendered and grow in self-knowledge and I can honestly say I am witnessing the most astounding interactive relationship with Allah in my life. He knows me better than I know myself.
Paul beautiful subject we are being educated. I suggest that you and your subscribers check out Na'im Akbar who wrote a small book entitled The Community of Self. He is an African American psychologist from America.
Brother Paul, you could do an interview about the portal to the jinns world that DMT opens Experienced psychologists, scientists and atheists who have encountered DMT are confident in the reality of their visions, in the reality of strange entities. According to a 2020 study, half of atheists who experienced the DMT effect became religious or spiritual. There is a channel about this topic on RUclips: Engineering Mental Sanity -Jerry Marzinsky. There are interviews with practicing doctors and psychologists.
To summarize, the heart possesses intellect. The nerve endings around the heart do possess the ability to perceive. Such as is the case with the nerve endings around the gut. So, when we say we ‘felt something in our gut’ or heart, it truly means we did. However, our minds do a great job of talking our hearts and guts out of what we perceive and feel to be true. Babies do not have the capacity to rationalize themselves out of how they feel, so they instinctively listen to how their bodies feel around people. If a baby cries because he/she doesn’t feel comfortable with someone, the baby’s mind doesn’t say “But this is ridiculous. I shouldn’t cry around this person because they are upright people in the community”. The baby listens to his heart and gut, which cannot verbalize what they are sensing. As human beings, our existence is not just the mind, but the perception of the heart, the intuition of the gut, and the status of our souls. When we go with our hearts, that is called ‘alignment’. And the heart only rests with the soul is aligned with God.
“He who practices Tasawwuf (Sufism) without learning Sacred Law (Sharia) corrupts his faith, while he who learns Sacred Law without practicing Tasawwuf corrupts himself. Only he who combines the two proves true.” - Imam Malik, founder of the Maliki school.
Assalamoalaikum. What a heart-warmingly simple explanation of a seemingly complex subject. Loved it. Also took notes 😄. May I use some of the explanations for flash card reminders that I make?
the world is a mental house and the sickness is in the (spiritual) heart (separation from the beloved) . Those who want to be cured (to be in tawheed-union-oneness) enroll with a sheikh (the one who had mastered the art of healing and tawheed and wanting to help others) and devote themselves to climbing the ranks of tasawwuf
why does it seem like while whenever Dr. Rothman busy elaborating, bro Paul was busy digesting? this topic is up there with other selected few of high level discussions in Blogging Theology.
Another question I have been dying to ask: When one becomes a scholar of Ilm, is it the case that we become theoretically very well-founded, but cannot put theory in practice? For example, there have been videos of the previous Pope in which he pulls away angrily from a woman who would not let go of his hand due to her adoration. In my mind, this looks rather unpolished. Obviously, the Pope has an immense theoretical foundation of the church, but if the Pope cannot improve his behaviour to such a degree that he cannot maintain his bearing for that kind of minor wrath. In a similar trend, because I honestly do not know, is it so that Islamic scholars these days focus more on the theoretical side than putting that theory into practice? I would like to believe that indeed, much attention is paid to dhikr, tasawwuf, and other training that will improve the character of the student of knowledge. But so far, all of this is conjecture from my side, so I am wondering if someone can enlighten my about this.
Well there are people who will seek knowledge just to be called scholars and Mr. know it all. If you read the life of Al Ghazali, you will know that he used to be the kind of person who knew how to answer any question, he was the most prestigious scholar of his time, He was appointed to be the top professor in the Nizamiyya of Baghdad University. But at the same time he was also known to be a fierce and aggressive, which people who knew him well or engaged in a debate with him disliked him, even his brother once recited a poem to him as an advice and telling him that: "You are teaching all this knowledge and guiding your students but you are not guiding yourself and not benefiting from what you preach". Because any deed done not in the sake of Allah is shirk. He then suffered from a depression and a spiritual crisis, it is then where he begun his journey of Tassawuf and seclusion and studied his inner soul and the ego and then later transformed into another person.
If you have a good memory and some intelligence you can master any subject, including religious sciences but that doesn’t translate into good character and pure heart. Inner work is a must but that is easier said then done.
Read Quran translations. Listen to beautiful Quranic recitations. Practice mindfulness breathing. Listen to lectures by Abdu Hakim Murad. If possible, stop using Twitter and Facebook. All these are available on youtube. May God Almighty heal you.
Salams to everyone. Politely said, your discussion is very complicated. In reality, the soul has no image. It is the life that goes into the body and makes it work. We are physical creatures. After a life time of being in the body, the soul has a great deal of memory. So, when the soul leaves the body, it remembers the vision, the hearing, the movement, the feelings, and other things experiences that were grasped through life and it becomes like a body but not really. It can't continue like that forever. It needs a body. ALLAH (sbwt) plants it back in a new body of yourself when the time comes on the day of judgment.
The soul leaves the body during sleeping and death, where in the first it is returened and second not. Quraan 39/42 The Heart is were the personal beleived concepts are (), the neorens in the chest area
Joseph Chilton Pearce also has another book that investigates the inner brilliance from the get go (from fetal development) that is heart centered in Magical Child and how western education creates deficits (or debris) on the Heart's intuitive intelligence which would manifest brilliantly without materialistic interference. He examines traditional and ancient cultures to look at how people are connected to the primordial reality (Fitrah) very holistically compared to the modern secular context.
@@karimb972 Who is this 'we' ?? for Ismailis it's only "Allah" who is the lord of judgment day not anyone else! There 73 sects/ multiple interpretations in Islam and Ismailis are one of them.
Islam deals with many problems in psychology, such as obsessive-compulsive disorder, anger, tension, insomnia, cowardice, envy, greed, and disobedience. Islam is a method of refinement and psychological security. The texts of the Qur’an and hadith contain a lot of matters in the human psyche, and Islamic scholars also spoke about the psychological aspects, such as Sheikh Ibn Taymiyyah, Ibn al-Qayyim al-Jawziyyah, etc..
Islamic psychology starts with one's intention. انما الاعمال بالنیات۔ نیت المومن خیر من عملہ۔ الا للہ الدین الخالص۔ After correction and reformation of intention/Niyyat, one must correct his actions according to sunnah. And last step is jihad bil nafs جہاد بالنفس۔ In this step , one will find the hidden internal diseases of nafs and change its bad habits into good one. Like , pride , arrogance, haste, greed, etc.
Thank You for this Masterclass . I had a question .. I come from a Sufi Dominant Family. I was always told every human walks with a Jinn attached to his/her hip.. would that Jinn have any ability psychology to deviate a person? Considering it is true of course .
No definition of "Islamic psychology" was presented in this video. The very first question Paul asked was to define it. Yet, I do not believe I heard a definition.
I must say it was not clear cut. But as he said such a wide field cannot be summed up in one or two sentences. Everything he said after the question about the Quran, measurement, cognition behaviour, epistomology and ontology etc. appertain to the answer.
Yunus 10/55-61 (55) أَلَآ إِنَّ لِلَّهِ مَا فِى ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَٱلْأَرْضِۗ أَلَآ إِنَّ وَعْدَ ٱللَّهِ حَقٌّ وَلَٰكِنَّ أَكْثَرَهُمْ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ (56) هُوَ يُحْىِۦ وَيُمِيتُ وَإِلَيْهِ تُرْجَعُونَ (57) يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّاسُ قَدْ جَآءَتْكُم مَّوْعِظَةٌ مِّن رَّبِّكُمْ وَشِفَآءٌ لِّمَا فِى ٱلصُّدُورِ وَهُدًى وَرَحْمَةٌ لِّلْمُؤْمِنِينَ (58) قُلْ بِفَضْلِ ٱللَّهِ وَبِرَحْمَتِهِۦ فَبِذَٰلِكَ فَلْيَفْرَحُوا۟ هُوَ خَيْرٌ مِّمَّا يَجْمَعُونَ (59) قُلْ أَرَءَيْتُم مَّآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ لَكُم مِّن رِّزْقٍ فَجَعَلْتُم مِّنْهُ حَرَامًا وَحَلَٰلًا قُلْ ءَآللَّهُ أَذِنَ لَكُمْۖ أَمْ عَلَى ٱللَّهِ تَفْتَرُونَ (60) وَمَا ظَنُّ ٱلَّذِينَ يَفْتَرُونَ عَلَى ٱللَّهِ ٱلْكَذِبَ يَوْمَ ٱلْقِيَٰمَةِۗ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ لَذُو فَضْلٍ عَلَى ٱلنَّاسِ وَلَٰكِنَّ أَكْثَرَهُمْ لَا يَشْكُرُونَ (61) وَمَا تَكُونُ فِى شَأْنٍ وَمَا تَتْلُوا۟ مِنْهُ مِن قُرْءَانٍ وَلَا تَعْمَلُونَ مِنْ عَمَلٍ إِلَّا كُنَّا عَلَيْكُمْ شُهُودًا إِذْ تُفِيضُونَ فِيهِۚ وَمَا يَعْزُبُ عَن رَّبِّكَ مِن مِّثْقَالِ ذَرَّةٍ فِى ٱلْأَرْضِ وَلَا فِى ٱلسَّمَآءِ وَلَآ أَصْغَرَ مِن ذَٰلِكَ وَلَآ أَكْبَرَ إِلَّا فِى كِتَٰبٍ مُّبِينٍ English - Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran (55) Surely to Allah belongs whatever is in the heavens and the earth. Surely Allah’s promise is ˹always˺ true, but most of them do not know. (56) He ˹is the One Who˺ gives life and causes death, and to Him you will ˹all˺ be returned. (57) O humanity! Indeed, there has come to you a warning from your Lord, a cure for what is in the hearts, a guide, and a mercy for the believers. (58) Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “In Allah’s grace and mercy let them rejoice. That is far better than whatever ˹wealth˺ they amass.” (59) Ask ˹the pagans, O Prophet˺, “Have you seen that which Allah has sent down for you as a provision, of which you have made some lawful and some unlawful?”[[ This refers to {6:138}-139. ]] Say, “Has Allah given you authorization, or are you fabricating lies against Allah?” (60) What do those who fabricate lies against Allah expect on Judgment Day? Surely Allah is ever Bountiful to humanity,[[ By delaying their punishment and allowing them time to repent. ]] but most of them are ungrateful. (61) There is no activity you may be engaged in ˹O Prophet˺ or portion of the Quran you may be reciting, nor any deed you ˹all˺ may be doing except that We are a Witness over you while doing it. Not ˹even˺ an atom’s weight is hidden from your Lord on earth or in heaven; nor anything smaller or larger than that, but is ˹written˺ in a perfect Record.[[ See footnote for {6:38}.]] French - Muhammad Hamidullah (55) C'est à Allah qu'appartient, certes, tout ce qui est dans les cieux et sur la terre. Certes, la promesse d'Allah est vérité. Mais la plupart d'entre eux ne (le) savent pas. (56) C'est Lui qui donne la vie et qui donne la mort; et c'est vers Lui que vous serez ramenés. (57) O gens! Une exhortation vous est venue, de votre Seigneur, une guérison de ce qui est dans les poitrines, un guide et une miséricorde pour les croyants. (58) Dis: «[Ceci provient] de la grâce d'Allah et de Sa miséricorde; Voilà de quoi ils devraient se réjouir. C'est bien mieux que tout ce qu'ils amassent». (59) Que dites-vous de ce qu'Allah a fait descendre pour vous comme subsistance et dont vous avez alors fait des choses licites et des choses interdites? - Dis: «Est-ce Allah qui vous l'a permis? Ou bien forgez vous (des mensonges) contre Allah?» (60) Et que penseront, au Jour de la Résurrection, ceux qui forgent le mensonge contre Allah? - Certes, Allah est Détenteur de grâce pour les gens, mais la plupart d'entre eux ne sont pas reconnaissants. (61) Tu ne te trouveras dans aucune situation, tu ne réciteras aucun passage du Coran, vous n'accomplirez aucun acte sans que Nous soyons témoin au moment où vous l'entreprendrez. Il n'échappe à ton Seigneur ni le poids d'un atome sur terre ou dans le ciel, ni un poids plus petit ou plus grand qui ne soit déjà inscrit dans un livre évident.
Islamic psychology is aligning mind with the mind of Allah by reading Quran and Hadith. I align by reading the Quran as follows: Quran Chapter 5 Verse 157: And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but it was made to appear to them (by the first jewish agent Mark). And indeed, those (other jewish agents luke, mathew, john) who differ in it (the Mark's editing, for not being good enough to serve jews) have surly doubt in their own data. They have no knowledge of it (this crucifixion) except the following of assumption (to assert his crucifixion to save jews from embarrassment and at the same time to destroy their enemies with maximum confusion). And they did not kill him, for certain.
I'd be curious to hear the opinion of an Islamic psychologist concerning Jung's work and also the importance of Alchemy. The modern Islamic scholars just hold assumptions concerning alchemy, referring to it as some sort of Sihr when it couldn't be further from the truth. These scholars haven't even attempted to understand it, though to be clear through alchemy you can understand the mechanisms that allow for sihr, but it itself is not sihr. It teaches you that sihr is the manipulation of the unconscious. This might appear as a reductionist's attempt at explaining sihr, but it isn't if you truly understand what is meant by the unconscious. (Btw al-ghazli was a huge proponent of Alchemy and so was Ibn Sina). Of course, Islamically speaking, much of Jung's work would be in disagreement, but generally speaking his work is revelatory if its actually understood, most just fail or struggle to understand it. Personally, as a muslim, coming across Jung's work is among the best things that has happened to me, simply due to the degree of understanding I obtained concerning life as a whole. Through his work I obtained the keys to understanding my faith, when the so called master themselves have lost touch. Through Jung you can reach deeper spiritual truths that are found in the Quran (He actually quotes the Quran multiple times - the most frequent being Surah al Kahf, he talks about Khidr, Dhul Quarnayn, and quite frankly despite not necessarily agreeing with his interpretation, his is far more befitting than those we get from our learned elders today). The modern scholars are profoundly out of touch with these deeper truths, and you can see that in the discussions being had. Everything is spoken about only at a surface level. For instance, take the notion that half of one's deen is found in marriage. This is a truth of great profundity, but its only understood at a surface level. Its only understood literally, but really the great truth here lies in the metaphor. This is the alchemical wedding. Its so sad how the elders don't teach these things, there are no true scholars anymore, the only thing they talk about is virtue, which is of great importance, but Islam encompasses far more than just virtue, or miracles about the universe. Its a guide for man, yet they never talk about how it guides. The path to virtue isn't it. Virtue isn't what leads to self actualization. The Quran is a guide to self-actualization, yet they don't ever talk about how this is the case. Why? Because, personally, I genuinely think they don't know how. I think the modern scholars are falling short, big time. Back in the day, these scholars were the intellectual elite, sad times.
Religions are against each other. So at most one religion is true. At the worst case all religions are false. However adherents of a religion claim that only their religion is true and all others are false, which they do with absolute conviction. In a sense it is a mental problem.
Not at all impressed with this guy. He did not have any continuity of thought. What really made me stop listening to this blog was when he started to justify sufism as the real Islam. Sufism is a devil’s creation and goes against the tawheed of Islam. I know I am going to get a backlash from many fans of blogging theology but I stand by what I said. By the way, it is nothing against Blogging Theology. Brother Paul is doing a fantastic job of bringing a diverse array of guests. Keep it up Paul.
Allah tells us that many prophets were sent to different peoples in different ages. In my personal opinion, Plato might have been one of those prophets whose teachings contain remnants of the truth, for example, his thoughts on the human condition in the “cave” are very similar to the description in Surah Yaseen of the disbelievers who have chains around their necks (so they are held high with arrogance) and they have a barrier in front of them and behind them so they cannot see. And the one man who comes out of the cave perceives the reality (Plato himself).
Rothman's psycho-therapy is deeply problematic. His acceptance of western paradigms without any searching criticism of their implicit empirical biases cannot be of help to the community of Muslims or secular society. His attempt to develop a 'model' of Islamic psychology in light of "contemporary social concerns" is deeply flawed as an attempt to make psycho therapeutic theories acceptable to Muslims. The only way this could be possible would be to firstly drain classical Islamic concepts of psychology of their implicit meanings (primarily by ignoring or sidelining it's cosmology and epistemology) and then trying to fix it into the contemporary 'psycho babble' of his own highly personalized choosing. The result is that his pronouncements are neither sufficiently "Islamic" nor yet sufficiently psycho-therapeutic but fall, precariously, in between. Islamic psychology is focused on the substance of the Ruh (Spirit) and the psyche (al-nafs) is only an accidental feature of that substance. By contrast modern psycho therapy is almost entirely focused on the subjective nature of the nafs (psyche) which it believes it can treat independently of the objective criteria of the Ruh. This is a fundamental and major error and explains why so many postmodern psychological theories ( including those of some modernised Muslims) are inherently dysfunctional. It is fortunate that many classically trained Muslim psychologists like Al-Ghazali and Ibn Sina would never have ventured into the postmodern world of the psyche since it operates entirely outside and away from the domain of the Islamic cosmological paradigm. Rothman, by contrast, assumes that modern psycho-therapy could, by hook or by crook, be grafted onto an "Islamic view" without any obvious criticism of their very limited practicality and usefulness to Islam. What Rothman should have said is that contemporary psycho therapy is a deeply problematic enterprise (owing to his modern biases and limitations) and therefore inherently unfitting as an aid for the development of an authentic Islamic psychology.
Well said David. Thank you for your brilliant post. You seem to be person of considerable knowledge on this issue. In fact, "Islamic psychology" is a largely western misnomer invented by 19th Century Orientalists to fit their own particular sexual interests. In classical Islamic times psychology was a feature of traditional Islamic spirituality and the basis of that is the Quran. The big mistake Rothman makes is to treat the nafs as the Soul whereas in fact it relates to the Spirit. I agree with your insight, I think Rothman, as a western psychotherapist, is trying to inject or graft his own cultural psychological prejudices onto Muslims. However, his interview here really highlights the difficulty Rothman has in explaining how the western paradigm, which makes the psyche (nafs) paramount, could be in any position to analyse the spirit (ruh) or the heart (qalb). This is his biggest weakness and he fails to articulate the difference between the two paradigms. The western fetishist interest in Islam is what Rothman is expressing here but this has nothing to do with classical Islamic spirituality. I agree with your point, Rothman fails in a very dramatic way, to distinguish between the inherent weakness of the western paradigm (with its obsession with the psyche) and the Islamic paradigm, with its focus on the Spirit (ruh).
@@DavidSmith-zl2ww Yes, I am from the Middle East. As you have already said, all of our great Islamic scientists and traditional Ulema like Al-Ghazali, Ibn Sina and Mulla Sadra would have wholly rejected Rothman's attempt to redefine "Islamic psychology" according to his own western relativistic prejudices. Rothman's western paradigm model has no place in Islam.
@@wafaabdullah2172 I think the point you are making is that modern psychotherapy has been influenced by Freud and Jung to a degree that makes it incompatible with traditional Islamic spirituality. Am I right? By the way are you a therapist yourself?
@@DavidSmith-zl2ww Hi David - no I am not a therapist by profession but I used to be before I gave it up. I am a Counsellor and currently work for the NHS. I agree completely with your brilliant analysis of Rothman's huge failings and yes I think Freud's personal intense hatred towards religion made him a highly unsuitable personality to study religious psychology of any kind. I also believe that Jung's collective psychism made Jungianism a relativistic theory which empties religious concepts of any authentic meaning. That is why so many therapists have left the profession.
It’s not working-your brainwashed military pinning Muslims against one another, child. You couldn’t persuade my brother Muhammad Ali to go kill for racist reasons like y’all. Clearly, you haven’t read the empathic sections of Melville’s Moby Dick either. Dicks only read Donald Duck cartoons.
Title should not be Islamic psychology but Islamic spirituality. And this doctor knows very little about it. Title demands a practising sufi who knows the best about this topic .
Paul, Islamic Spiritual Psychology (Tasawwuf) is an important topic. Unfortunately 20th century pseudo-sufis have brought a bad name to this science. We need to make the authentic practice of this science accessible to people. Unfortunately, this is not something one can gain by reading; this is an experiential science and requires regular practice under the deft guidance of someone who has mastered this science. That requires retreat kind of settings or regular interaction with a practitioner. I was fortunate to attend such sessions and have felt the transformational impact.
However, Muslim Psychologists, like Abdullah Rothman, who have an understanding of Islamic model of the "self" (interaction between the four "elements": nafs, ruh, qalb, aql) can incorporate some of the recommendations from Tasawwuf to enhance their practice.
Abu Zayd al-Balkhi, who was a physician around 900 CE, was the first to successfully discuss diseases related to both the body and the soul in an integarted manner. Dr. Malik Badri, a psychiatrist, has written a book on Abu Zayd and his ideas and is available on Amazon. "Abu Zayd al-Balkhi's Sustenance of the Soul: The Cognitive Behavior Therapy of A Ninth Century Physician"
I am currently reading Al Balkhi Sustinanse Of The Soul , which is translated to Swidish . Dr. Badri translated the psychological section- Cognitive Behavioral Therapya. Dr. Malik Badri is My great uncle and was my mentor may his soul rest in peace passed away in 2020.
Thank you for this interview.
Oh.. Dr. Abdullah was briefly my daughter's therapist in Virginia US, before he left to UAE.
Tha k you so much.
I agree with you regarding Sophysim.
Tasawwuf unfortunately is not Islam not at all related to Islam it's a different kinda perspective and practice that most certainly is associated with spirituality but has no connection to Islam and shouldn't have actually if you dig deep I don't think being a Muslim I can even agree the first motive statement of it our religion is a lot based on being present the knowledge of existence and akhirah
I am a sufi student of Mujadid/Nakshband sufi order , by the grace of Allah SWT it is easy to distinguish between, pseudo sufis and the real one, the barometer is one The Sunnah, and taqleed of imams of Ahlé Sunnah Waljama'ah and successors.
This channel just keeps getting better and better! I'm a mental health therapist who has been studying Islam for a while, and I have been wondering how Islam and psychology could be integrated.
I’ve also been studying Islam for its many health benefits especially to overcome mental health challenges. Apparently issues related to OCD were documented in Arabic back in the 9th century in almost the same format as the DSM. A student had shown her professor whose surname was spelled Koran and once translated he started hoppping around with joy at the discovery. 😅
It made me giggle when she was explaining the story, i think it was a talk on Jannah Institute i will try to locate it 4 ya before settling to watch this episode as i like this chaps work already so looking forward to this 💖 🤲
May Allah bless you tremendously with knowledge and wisdom of Islamic Psychology , so that knowledge and skills be applied to help fix derailed minds effectively . May Allah help you help His needy creation . May you become the best psychologist . Ameen
@Charles here is an extra link you may find useful its not the same one i previously mentioned but its a great resource ruclips.net/video/mN-ta8Xi_Mo/видео.html
@@786humaira1 May Allah also bless you in your efforts to spread information on this wonderful way of life 😊 and thankyou 4 your kind words here 💖I’ve just subscribed to your channel and will look forward to your content and trying to boost your reach with some 👍👍👍
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Time to listen and learn i have much catching up to do here ;xD 🥰 🤲
@@deanamyers57 That is awesome, I look forward to it!
Alhamdullilah for this ❤ I’m a psychologist and now a revert to Islam. I’m keen to incorporate Islam into my practise but had no idea how or where to start
Start by asking Allah for knowledges and understanding sister.. 👍
May Allah guide you, and CongRatuLation for reverting.. 💐
And if i may suGest, try to understand Qada and Qadar.. it's the cure for any PsyCholoGical isSue..
Do you know why there is almost no PsyCholoGist in a muslim maJority country? Coz the Statistic Rate for geNeral stRess is low..
Everyone believe what they have is the best for them in this dunya.. and their hope is in The Mercy of Allah in the HereAfter..
I reGret studying PsyCholoGy in a muslim maJority country you know.. there is almost no Job if not for some Rich reBeLious Teens.. lol..
Dr. Rothman also has some brilliant papers online that will aid you in this path. Islamic psychology work is a whole world of gems. You're going to love it.
Try checking out Gabriel Al-Romani on YT, he's also a convert (for a very long time) and also a psychologist. He talks a lot about men and women as well. I'm not sure if that's exactly what you want, but it can be a start.
Please start reading imam gazali and other early scholars if you wanna understand islamic psychology.
Recent revert 🙏 may God bless us all ❤️
Ameen. Welcome brother. Go through the transformation gradually - one step at a time.
Amen
5 Soul medicine
1. Reading the Qur'an and its meaning.
The Qur'an is the holy book of Islam which contains the words of Allah SWT. In addition, the Qur'an is said to be a guide to human life.
Allah SWT said in Surat Al-Isra verse 82, which means: "And We sent down from the Qur'an something that is a cure and a mercy for those who believe and the Qur'an does not add to the wrongdoers other than loss."
2. Establish night prayer (Tahajjud).
Night prayers like tahajud prayers have many benefits besides being able to draw closer to Allah SWT. Through the prayer that is offered can make peace for anyone who performs it.
3. Gather with righteous people.
If you want to be a good person, be friends with good people. Similarly, if you want to be righteous, gather with those who are righteous.
Allah SWT said in Surat Al Kahfi verse 28, which means: "And be patient together with those who call upon their Lord in the morning and evening hoping for His pleasure, and do not turn your eyes away from them (due to) hoping for the ornaments of this world , and do not follow the person whose heart We have neglected from remembering Us, and follow his lust and his condition is beyond the limit."
4. Increase Fasting.
Fasting is one of the recommended acts of worship in Islam. In addition to resisting hunger, thirst and lust, fasting can also prevent a person from reprehensible acts.
There are obligatory fasts in the month of Ramadhan as well as those that are sunnah such as the fast of David, the fast of Monday and Thursday, the fast of Arafah, the fast of Ashura, and so on.
5. Do more dhikr at night.
Zikr is remembering Allah SWT with the aim of drawing closer to Him. The command to remember is found in the Qur'an, chapter Al-Ahzab verse 41, which means: "O you who believe, remember (by mentioning the name of) Allah, remember as much as possible."
this is the custom in our country and our scholars have always conveyed to us this formula.
I really appreciate this comment. I hope I'll incorporate in MY life
If Only 3rd point of your comments is maintend rest 4 automatically incorporate in life
@@JunaidKhan-vw3dx sorry for the late reply...we as humans can only choose and try what is best for what we choose but the main thing, based on my comment above, is that is the main standard in ISLAM...Indeed, sometimes our choices in life are not in accordance with what we expected and try not to damage ourselves and others...that is why in ISLAM, we It is recommended to associate with good people because the main thing is peace of mind.
“The body is a dense manifestation of the soul” Allahuakbar. Jazakallah Mullah Sadra, Imam Ghazali, Dr.Rothman and Br. Paul ❤🤲🕋
That was a beautiful and profound statement!
Masha'Allah brother Paul. Always beyond our expectations. The way you choose subjects and guests is Masha'Allah.
Excellent interview. I adore the humble attitude of both speakers
To my fellow brothers and sisters from other faiths, Islamic spiritual psychology (Tasawwuf, or The Real Sufism, not the sufism adulterated by western "hippies" ) is fascinating topic. If you are a clinical psycholgist and want to learn more about Islamic Spiritual Psychology, consider joining the program offered by Cambridge Muslim College. God Willing, you will benefit rom it. The classical literature on Islamic Spiritual Psycholagy is immense.
I recommend Mr. Paul that you interview Dr. Abdul rahman dhakir Al hashimi, because he is an expert in this topic, as he's leading now the biggest project in the field of Islamic psychology in the Arabian world, and personally I saw his content to be the best of it's kind.
He produces the field as a subject, and teaches it in details and structure based upon the Quran, sunnah, and the scholarly tradition, along with taking from the western psychological experience what suits that Islamic narrative as he is well learned about both the narratives, Allahuma barik.
And it's so sad that not many non-arabic speaker muslims know him, so I think it might be very beneficial to have him
And I think he will be very happy to be interviewed by you.
Alhamdulillah, have been eagerly waiting for this episode. Can't wait to listen.
Shaikh Asim yusuf The Nashid writer is a psychologist and classical scholar now present in Birmingham I think.
Worth visiting on line
جزاك الله خيرا..
For This ❣️
May all increase you and protect you brother Paul , your guests and your insight are always a delight to the heart and soul .
Alhamdulillah. Great video, wish it was longer.
Excellent conversation, very interesting, confirmed many of my thoughts and opened new perspectives
Thank you Br. paul . This is a fascinating topic . May you and your guest , be blessed with long healthy and happy lives .
Amazing! Thank you!
I love this discussion about the heart and its role in psychiatry. People suffering from all anxiety disorders present with cardiac, respiratory, and blood pressure symptoms- chest tightness, palpitations, shortness of breath, dizziness, sweating and so on. Hence antihypertensives are used to these symptoms.
I have seen so many patients with different beliefs who say “I want to get out of my head”- a sign that solution to disorders or the mind lie elsewhere- heart!
So true
I was eagerly waiting for this conversation and indeed it has helped me.Mashallah.
Your channel is awesome. Love from Canada 🇨🇦
Thanks so much!
Jazakallah Khairan Paul, recently I also saw a brilliant podcast from One Path Network with Dr. Samir Mahmod, I recommend getting on your podcast as well.
He opened my eyes how to purified our fitrah and I learnt understanding from Islamic psychology. He is absolutely brilliant!.
Please invite him to your podcast.
I second this!
What a supremely interesting interview!
The transformational aspect of Islam is what I have been looking for. What Dr Rothman says of a transactional form of Islam, that is what my father and I cannot get past in our discussions. He argues that since Muhammad (SAWS) has perfected the religion for us, all we have to do as Muslims is to follow his rulings and example. He argues that Islam is a religion of submission, and therefore denies the possibility of exploration. But, I argued that just like it is the case for Theravada Buddhism (and much less so for Mahayana Buddhism), we have to transform ourselves systematically with a an established methodology as was developed through the ages, I also argued that it is difficult to approach Allah without actually exploring, thereby transforming and ultimately, through our metamorphosis reach a state of being that allows us to understand Islam on a different level.
My question, though, is whether this methodology exists in the English Islamic corpus and whether it is as vague as Zen Buddhism, or as clear as Theravada Buddhism?
I think the transformational aspect is more relate to the pursuit of knowledge that changes a person from the inside which complements the mechanical aspect of the following of Prophet's tradition
I think what you are looking for is Ihsan. Islam has three components; Islam, which deals with outward actions and transactions: Iman which deals with all aspects of belief, and Ihsan which deals with attaining a state of being in which one is with Allah as if they see Him. Islam and Iman are a means to the state of Ihsan which in turn transforms them into more organic, more real, more elevated.and alive. Ihsan is a state in which one is inwardly in dhikr of Allah, and outwardly deals with creatures through the framework of the shariah and the Sunnah. It used to be that Muslims took for granted that there were Ulima who specialized in each discipline. Those who specialized in the science of Islam were called Fuqaha, Those who specialized in Ihsan where called Sufis, then came people who dismantled all aspects of Islam unbder the slogan of “back to the Quran and Sunnah” The Majority of Muslims in the Islamic wold still keep this equilibrium but in the west Islam seems to be dominated by this load minority, at least in media/
The answer to your question is in the seerah or life of the prophet Muhammad. His followers were trained in Makkah - transformation- before they established a functioning muslim state in Medinah.
May Allah keep this work in your good deeds. I love this channel it is so informative and interesting. Brother paul and his guests are a gem 💎
This is very rare topic made available on youtube. Thank you very much to both speakers.
Very interesting: I used to think that we as Muslims believe in a rather Platonic separation of body and spirit. In Chinese medicine, different parts of the so called "spirit" are housed in different organ systems, such as the heart, the liver, the bladder, etc. I wasn't quite aware of the Islamic view of this linkage between the physical and spiritual in the body. Makes me realise that the separation of body and soul might not be as Islamic as I thought - need to dive into the books again.
Awesome & mind blowing discourse👌incredibly insightful & inspiring as well🤔
Allah SWT bless u both abundantly🤲
Aameen
Surah 13 Ar-Ra’ad, verse 28: Those who believe and whose hearts find satisfaction in the remembrance of Allah: for without doubt, in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find satisfaction. This verse explains a great deal of the anxiety, mental confusion, depression, and suicidal inclinations of people in the West despite the comforts, riches, and technological progress they enjoy.
Hey, alHamduliLah!!! AbdAllah Rothman is my brother from twenty years ago when we were together with Shaykh Sidi al-Jamal at Lake Arrowhead in California! My brother, Paul, if you can reconnect us, that would be great! I will also reach out on Twitter. Allah bless and protect your work, brother Paul!
You can reach out to him at Cambridge Muslim College.
This is my 2nd video on this channel and I absolutely loved it. Thank you blogging theology!
Request/Suggestion: please make a new category/group of playlists on your channel which includes only topic-based playlists (excluding individual-based playlists) because it's difficult picking out topical playlists from that many. thank you.
Ma sha Allah. Beautiful discussion
Wow! This was fascinating and truly enlightening. I find the comparison of the blank slate when entering the world (western ideology) vs being born with a natural disposition, inclined towards truth, goodness, justice and tawheed very eye-opening. Perhaps a lot of our psychological issues stem from the very idea that we were put on this earth by no one, for nothing, to do nothing, and die for nothing. It's only when we understand that there is a higher power and purpose, that we can take a big leap towards healing. InshaAllah. May Allah bless you both for the good work you are doing.
سلام عليكم..
سبحان الله..
Interesting..
We also know now our Hearts has so many Neurons by itself communicating with our mind.
Great topic. Most of my clients seek therapy from an Islamic paradigm.There is still a lot of work needed. Excellent efforts.
Lovely interview. Thank you both.
Thank you brothers, May Allah Guide Us To The Right Path.
Dr. Raania Awaad has also explored this topic in a similar vein. I am absolutely intrigued by this conversation of Islam and Psychology. Its led my to exploring Islam and pedagogy in education
You should also check out Khalil Center in the US, they provide Islamic psychology services and also do and publish research on Islamic psychology. They are very good mashallah
Assalamualaikun, great video.
Very good conversation. Thank you so much
Masha'Allah! Amazing!
The heart has been found to have a network of neurons - the intrinsic cardiac nervous system, SubhanAllah
Fascinating!
The topic I've already waited for. Thank you for carrying this out Paul.
MaashaAllah. Look forward to next one
JazakaAllahu khayr.
Islamic psychology is Islamic spirituality(TASSAWUF)
Thank you, brothers, and with all due respect I feel very confused about what is being said in this video about AlGhazali. Through my personal journey of having an interactive relationship with the Quran and by paying attention to the laws and operations of my own thoughts, emotions and behaviour as I interact with my environment, I have come to WITNESS that the Quran and the duas of the Prophet pbuh as well as his behaviour are in full congruence with the discoverable psychological and sociological laws in the universe and in my own life. I grew quickly in self-knowledge and psychological health by following the Prophet Mohammed as a model. All his actions were dictated by the Creator that's why he was in balance with the laws of cause and effect in every area of life- psychologically, sociologically etc. He was, in a constant state of internal self-regulation of his thoughts (istighfar 70 times a day) for optimal psychological health. Great psychologists like Carl Rogers discovered an important law of psychology -a process-oriented approach to self- knowledge and psychological wellbeing in an atmosphere of unconditional acceptance by the therapist but it was still limited because his theory did not include the concept of full self-actualization through our psychological relationship with God. God has been my greatest psychologist. When I became honest and surrendered, I overcame my depression and addictions. I use my 5 daily prayers to stay surrendered and grow in self-knowledge and I can honestly say I am witnessing the most astounding interactive relationship with Allah in my life. He knows me better than I know myself.
Paul beautiful subject we are being educated. I suggest that you and your subscribers check out Na'im Akbar who wrote a small book entitled The Community of Self. He is an African American psychologist from America.
Brother Paul, you could do an interview about the portal to the jinns world that DMT opens
Experienced psychologists, scientists and atheists who have encountered DMT are confident in the reality of their visions, in the reality of strange entities. According to a 2020 study, half of atheists who experienced the DMT effect became religious or spiritual.
There is a channel about this topic on RUclips: Engineering Mental Sanity -Jerry Marzinsky.
There are interviews with practicing doctors and psychologists.
Is there a better healer than your creator? He says “Be and it is.”
GREATH DIALOG...
THANKYOU SIR.
Heart reacts when Emotions involve and active when critical decisions to be taken.
To summarize, the heart possesses intellect. The nerve endings around the heart do possess the ability to perceive. Such as is the case with the nerve endings around the gut. So, when we say we ‘felt something in our gut’ or heart, it truly means we did. However, our minds do a great job of talking our hearts and guts out of what we perceive and feel to be true. Babies do not have the capacity to rationalize themselves out of how they feel, so they instinctively listen to how their bodies feel around people. If a baby cries because he/she doesn’t feel comfortable with someone, the baby’s mind doesn’t say “But this is ridiculous. I shouldn’t cry around this person because they are upright people in the community”. The baby listens to his heart and gut, which cannot verbalize what they are sensing.
As human beings, our existence is not just the mind, but the perception of the heart, the intuition of the gut, and the status of our souls.
When we go with our hearts, that is called ‘alignment’. And the heart only rests with the soul is aligned with God.
Mashallah
“He who practices Tasawwuf (Sufism) without learning Sacred Law (Sharia) corrupts his faith, while he who learns Sacred Law without practicing Tasawwuf corrupts himself. Only he who combines the two proves true.” - Imam Malik, founder of the Maliki school.
Thanks
Thank you!
Assalamoalaikum.
What a heart-warmingly simple explanation of a seemingly complex subject. Loved it. Also took notes 😄.
May I use some of the explanations for flash card reminders that I make?
the world is a mental house and the sickness is in the (spiritual) heart (separation from the beloved) . Those who want to be cured (to be in tawheed-union-oneness) enroll with a sheikh (the one who had mastered the art of healing and tawheed and wanting to help others) and devote themselves to climbing the ranks of tasawwuf
i think, The heart is referring to the feelings we experience through mind and body.
why does it seem like while whenever Dr. Rothman busy elaborating, bro Paul was busy digesting?
this topic is up there with other selected few of high level discussions in Blogging Theology.
السَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَةُ اللهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ
BRO...
Another question I have been dying to ask:
When one becomes a scholar of Ilm, is it the case that we become theoretically very well-founded, but cannot put theory in practice? For example, there have been videos of the previous Pope in which he pulls away angrily from a woman who would not let go of his hand due to her adoration. In my mind, this looks rather unpolished. Obviously, the Pope has an immense theoretical foundation of the church, but if the Pope cannot improve his behaviour to such a degree that he cannot maintain his bearing for that kind of minor wrath. In a similar trend, because I honestly do not know, is it so that Islamic scholars these days focus more on the theoretical side than putting that theory into practice?
I would like to believe that indeed, much attention is paid to dhikr, tasawwuf, and other training that will improve the character of the student of knowledge. But so far, all of this is conjecture from my side, so I am wondering if someone can enlighten my about this.
Well there are people who will seek knowledge just to be called scholars and Mr. know it all. If you read the life of Al Ghazali, you will know that he used to be the kind of person who knew how to answer any question, he was the most prestigious scholar of his time, He was appointed to be the top professor in the Nizamiyya of Baghdad University. But at the same time he was also known to be a fierce and aggressive, which people who knew him well or engaged in a debate with him disliked him, even his brother once recited a poem to him as an advice and telling him that: "You are teaching all this knowledge and guiding your students but you are not guiding yourself and not benefiting from what you preach". Because any deed done not in the sake of Allah is shirk. He then suffered from a depression and a spiritual crisis, it is then where he begun his journey of Tassawuf and seclusion and studied his inner soul and the ego and then later transformed into another person.
If you have a good memory and some intelligence you can master any subject, including religious sciences but that doesn’t translate into good character and pure heart. Inner work is a must but that is easier said then done.
I suffer from a mood disorder and life is not great. Looking to Islam for an alternative
Learn Qada and Qadar..
Read Quran translations.
Listen to beautiful Quranic recitations.
Practice mindfulness breathing.
Listen to lectures by Abdu Hakim Murad.
If possible, stop using Twitter and Facebook.
All these are available on youtube. May God Almighty heal you.
@@mash0000 i prefer muhammad thaha
Assalamu’alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh
السَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَةُ اللهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ
Salams to everyone. Politely said, your discussion is very complicated. In reality, the soul has no image. It is the life that goes into the body and makes it work. We are physical creatures. After a life time of being in the body, the soul has a great deal of memory. So, when the soul leaves the body, it remembers the vision, the hearing, the movement, the feelings, and other things experiences that were grasped through life and it becomes like a body but not really. It can't continue like that forever. It needs a body. ALLAH (sbwt) plants it back in a new body of yourself when the time comes on the day of judgment.
Masya Allah ilm (Allah's knowledge) in islam more deep and more wide..
Anywone ever heard of the "Nafs Quranic Psychological Model"?
"And they ask you about spirit. Say, the spirit belongs to domain of my Lord, and you were given only a little knowledge".
Qur'an 17:85
The soul leaves the body during sleeping and death, where in the first it is returened and second not. Quraan 39/42
The Heart is were the personal beleived concepts are (), the neorens in the chest area
Is this fahad tasleems brother from sapeince institute ?
Joseph Chilton Pearce also has another book that investigates the inner brilliance from the get go (from fetal development) that is heart centered in Magical Child and how western education creates deficits (or debris) on the Heart's intuitive intelligence which would manifest brilliantly without materialistic interference. He examines traditional and ancient cultures to look at how people are connected to the primordial reality (Fitrah) very holistically compared to the modern secular context.
I think not just Al-Ghazali but many Sufis and Ismaili thinkers also have discussed, intellect / soul /nafs etc..
Who cares what Sufis and Ismailis discuss? Babbling babies make more sense.
We don't accept what Ismailis have to say because they are heretics. And please don't put Sufis and Ismailis in the same sentence.
@@karimb972 They are as bad as each other.
@@karimb972 Who is this 'we' ?? for Ismailis it's only "Allah" who is the lord of judgment day not anyone else!
There 73 sects/ multiple interpretations in Islam and Ismailis are one of them.
The title reminded me of Abdul Rahman Al Hashemi
It's really interesting how the Quran insists on the heart as our centers. Mentioning the verse about it's the hearts in our chests which don't see.
Islam deals with many problems in psychology, such as obsessive-compulsive disorder, anger, tension, insomnia, cowardice, envy, greed, and disobedience. Islam is a method of refinement and psychological security.
The texts of the Qur’an and hadith contain a lot of matters in the human psyche, and Islamic scholars also spoke about the psychological aspects, such as Sheikh Ibn Taymiyyah, Ibn al-Qayyim al-Jawziyyah, etc..
Islamic psychology starts with one's intention.
انما الاعمال بالنیات۔
نیت المومن خیر من عملہ۔
الا للہ الدین الخالص۔
After correction and reformation of intention/Niyyat, one must correct his actions according to sunnah. And last step is jihad bil nafs جہاد بالنفس۔
In this step , one will find the hidden internal diseases of nafs and change its bad habits into good one. Like , pride , arrogance, haste, greed, etc.
Brother Paul, just because I am dying of curiosity: When is the second episodel to the Impossible state with Imam Tom coming.
We are filming it on Monday insha Allah
@@BloggingTheology Alhamdulillah. I am all up in stitches. Now.
Thank You for this Masterclass . I had a question .. I come from a Sufi Dominant Family. I was always told every human walks with a Jinn attached to his/her hip.. would that Jinn have any ability psychology to deviate a person? Considering it is true of course .
Please invite sheikh Moutassem Al Hameedi. He has developed a great insight into the topic. His official channel is rashidoon
No definition of "Islamic psychology" was presented in this video. The very first question Paul asked was to define it. Yet, I do not believe I heard a definition.
I must say it was not clear cut. But as he said such a wide field cannot be summed up in one or two sentences. Everything he said after the question about the Quran, measurement, cognition behaviour, epistomology and ontology etc. appertain to the answer.
Rothman is known to be wishy washy. The type of psychology he promotes is not rife.
Did you know that tasleem that we do at the end of each prayer resembles vagus nervus exercise?
Alhamdulillah.
Yunus 10/55-61
(55) أَلَآ إِنَّ لِلَّهِ مَا فِى ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَٱلْأَرْضِۗ أَلَآ إِنَّ وَعْدَ ٱللَّهِ حَقٌّ وَلَٰكِنَّ أَكْثَرَهُمْ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ
(56) هُوَ يُحْىِۦ وَيُمِيتُ وَإِلَيْهِ تُرْجَعُونَ
(57) يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّاسُ قَدْ جَآءَتْكُم مَّوْعِظَةٌ مِّن رَّبِّكُمْ وَشِفَآءٌ لِّمَا فِى ٱلصُّدُورِ وَهُدًى وَرَحْمَةٌ لِّلْمُؤْمِنِينَ
(58) قُلْ بِفَضْلِ ٱللَّهِ وَبِرَحْمَتِهِۦ فَبِذَٰلِكَ فَلْيَفْرَحُوا۟ هُوَ خَيْرٌ مِّمَّا يَجْمَعُونَ
(59) قُلْ أَرَءَيْتُم مَّآ أَنزَلَ ٱللَّهُ لَكُم مِّن رِّزْقٍ فَجَعَلْتُم مِّنْهُ حَرَامًا وَحَلَٰلًا قُلْ ءَآللَّهُ أَذِنَ لَكُمْۖ أَمْ عَلَى ٱللَّهِ تَفْتَرُونَ
(60) وَمَا ظَنُّ ٱلَّذِينَ يَفْتَرُونَ عَلَى ٱللَّهِ ٱلْكَذِبَ يَوْمَ ٱلْقِيَٰمَةِۗ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ لَذُو فَضْلٍ عَلَى ٱلنَّاسِ وَلَٰكِنَّ أَكْثَرَهُمْ لَا يَشْكُرُونَ
(61) وَمَا تَكُونُ فِى شَأْنٍ وَمَا تَتْلُوا۟ مِنْهُ مِن قُرْءَانٍ وَلَا تَعْمَلُونَ مِنْ عَمَلٍ إِلَّا كُنَّا عَلَيْكُمْ شُهُودًا إِذْ تُفِيضُونَ فِيهِۚ وَمَا يَعْزُبُ عَن رَّبِّكَ مِن مِّثْقَالِ ذَرَّةٍ فِى ٱلْأَرْضِ وَلَا فِى ٱلسَّمَآءِ وَلَآ أَصْغَرَ مِن ذَٰلِكَ وَلَآ أَكْبَرَ إِلَّا فِى كِتَٰبٍ مُّبِينٍ
English - Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran
(55) Surely to Allah belongs whatever is in the heavens and the earth. Surely Allah’s promise is ˹always˺ true, but most of them do not know.
(56) He ˹is the One Who˺ gives life and causes death, and to Him you will ˹all˺ be returned.
(57) O humanity! Indeed, there has come to you a warning from your Lord, a cure for what is in the hearts, a guide, and a mercy for the believers.
(58) Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “In Allah’s grace and mercy let them rejoice. That is far better than whatever ˹wealth˺ they amass.”
(59) Ask ˹the pagans, O Prophet˺, “Have you seen that which Allah has sent down for you as a provision, of which you have made some lawful and some unlawful?”[[ This refers to {6:138}-139. ]] Say, “Has Allah given you authorization, or are you fabricating lies against Allah?”
(60) What do those who fabricate lies against Allah expect on Judgment Day? Surely Allah is ever Bountiful to humanity,[[ By delaying their punishment and allowing them time to repent. ]] but most of them are ungrateful.
(61) There is no activity you may be engaged in ˹O Prophet˺ or portion of the Quran you may be reciting, nor any deed you ˹all˺ may be doing except that We are a Witness over you while doing it. Not ˹even˺ an atom’s weight is hidden from your Lord on earth or in heaven; nor anything smaller or larger than that, but is ˹written˺ in a perfect Record.[[ See footnote for {6:38}.]]
French - Muhammad Hamidullah
(55) C'est à Allah qu'appartient, certes, tout ce qui est dans les cieux et sur la terre. Certes, la promesse d'Allah est vérité. Mais la plupart d'entre eux ne (le) savent pas.
(56) C'est Lui qui donne la vie et qui donne la mort; et c'est vers Lui que vous serez ramenés.
(57) O gens! Une exhortation vous est venue, de votre Seigneur, une guérison de ce qui est dans les poitrines, un guide et une miséricorde pour les croyants.
(58) Dis: «[Ceci provient] de la grâce d'Allah et de Sa miséricorde; Voilà de quoi ils devraient se réjouir. C'est bien mieux que tout ce qu'ils amassent».
(59) Que dites-vous de ce qu'Allah a fait descendre pour vous comme subsistance et dont vous avez alors fait des choses licites et des choses interdites? - Dis: «Est-ce Allah qui vous l'a permis? Ou bien forgez vous (des mensonges) contre Allah?»
(60) Et que penseront, au Jour de la Résurrection, ceux qui forgent le mensonge contre Allah? - Certes, Allah est Détenteur de grâce pour les gens, mais la plupart d'entre eux ne sont pas reconnaissants.
(61) Tu ne te trouveras dans aucune situation, tu ne réciteras aucun passage du Coran, vous n'accomplirez aucun acte sans que Nous soyons témoin au moment où vous l'entreprendrez. Il n'échappe à ton Seigneur ni le poids d'un atome sur terre ou dans le ciel, ni un poids plus petit ou plus grand qui ne soit déjà inscrit dans un livre évident.
Mystic converse. ; elements .
May Allah help you
بول عايزين حلقه عن سوره الإسراء وتجمع بني إسرائيل من كل مكان في مكان واحد ودي إشارة الي فلسطين حاليا ودي من علامات الساعه.
How can I study this in USA ?
After debunking all the stuff in the name of islamic psychology I would rather call it Islamic spirituality not psychology
The mistake is translating Aql as intellect or reason.
Islamic psychology is aligning mind with the mind of Allah by reading Quran and Hadith. I align by reading the Quran as follows:
Quran Chapter 5 Verse 157: And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but it was made to appear to them (by the first jewish agent Mark). And indeed, those (other jewish agents luke, mathew, john) who differ in it (the Mark's editing, for not being good enough to serve jews) have surly doubt in their own data. They have no knowledge of it (this crucifixion) except the following of assumption (to assert his crucifixion to save jews from embarrassment and at the same time to destroy their enemies with maximum confusion). And they did not kill him, for certain.
Just curious is Dr Rothman a Jewish Muslim or Jewmu for short? His surname seems Ashkenazi
Wait my body is the representation of my soul? 😮
Unseen and Reality are not in the same category. They belong to philosophy
I'd be curious to hear the opinion of an Islamic psychologist concerning Jung's work and also the importance of Alchemy. The modern Islamic scholars just hold assumptions concerning alchemy, referring to it as some sort of Sihr when it couldn't be further from the truth. These scholars haven't even attempted to understand it, though to be clear through alchemy you can understand the mechanisms that allow for sihr, but it itself is not sihr. It teaches you that sihr is the manipulation of the unconscious. This might appear as a reductionist's attempt at explaining sihr, but it isn't if you truly understand what is meant by the unconscious. (Btw al-ghazli was a huge proponent of Alchemy and so was Ibn Sina).
Of course, Islamically speaking, much of Jung's work would be in disagreement, but generally speaking his work is revelatory if its actually understood, most just fail or struggle to understand it. Personally, as a muslim, coming across Jung's work is among the best things that has happened to me, simply due to the degree of understanding I obtained concerning life as a whole. Through his work I obtained the keys to understanding my faith, when the so called master themselves have lost touch. Through Jung you can reach deeper spiritual truths that are found in the Quran (He actually quotes the Quran multiple times - the most frequent being Surah al Kahf, he talks about Khidr, Dhul Quarnayn, and quite frankly despite not necessarily agreeing with his interpretation, his is far more befitting than those we get from our learned elders today). The modern scholars are profoundly out of touch with these deeper truths, and you can see that in the discussions being had. Everything is spoken about only at a surface level. For instance, take the notion that half of one's deen is found in marriage. This is a truth of great profundity, but its only understood at a surface level. Its only understood literally, but really the great truth here lies in the metaphor. This is the alchemical wedding.
Its so sad how the elders don't teach these things, there are no true scholars anymore, the only thing they talk about is virtue, which is of great importance, but Islam encompasses far more than just virtue, or miracles about the universe. Its a guide for man, yet they never talk about how it guides. The path to virtue isn't it. Virtue isn't what leads to self actualization. The Quran is a guide to self-actualization, yet they don't ever talk about how this is the case. Why? Because, personally, I genuinely think they don't know how. I think the modern scholars are falling short, big time. Back in the day, these scholars were the intellectual elite, sad times.
من عرف نفسه فقد عرف ربه
Religions are against each other. So at most one religion is true. At the worst case all religions are false. However adherents of a religion claim that only their religion is true and all others are false, which they do with absolute conviction. In a sense it is a mental problem.
Not at all impressed with this guy. He did not have any continuity of thought. What really made me stop listening to this blog was when he started to justify sufism as the real Islam. Sufism is a devil’s creation and goes against the tawheed of Islam. I know I am going to get a backlash from many fans of blogging theology but I stand by what I said. By the way, it is nothing against Blogging Theology. Brother Paul is doing a fantastic job of bringing a diverse array of guests. Keep it up Paul.
Allah tells us that many prophets were sent to different peoples in different ages. In my personal opinion, Plato might have been one of those prophets whose teachings contain remnants of the truth, for example, his thoughts on the human condition in the “cave” are very similar to the description in Surah Yaseen of the disbelievers who have chains around their necks (so they are held high with arrogance) and they have a barrier in front of them and behind them so they cannot see. And the one man who comes out of the cave perceives the reality (Plato himself).
Please sister, plato is not a prophet
we arent slaves, we are worshippers in total surrender. 3abd doesnt mean slave
Rothman's psycho-therapy is deeply problematic. His acceptance of western paradigms without any searching criticism of their implicit empirical biases cannot be of help to the community of Muslims or secular society. His attempt to develop a 'model' of Islamic psychology in light of "contemporary social concerns" is deeply flawed as an attempt to make psycho therapeutic theories acceptable to Muslims. The only way this could be possible would be to firstly drain classical Islamic concepts of psychology of their implicit meanings (primarily by ignoring or sidelining it's cosmology and epistemology) and then trying to fix it into the contemporary 'psycho babble' of his own highly personalized choosing. The result is that his pronouncements are neither sufficiently "Islamic" nor yet sufficiently psycho-therapeutic but fall, precariously, in between. Islamic psychology is focused on the substance of the Ruh (Spirit) and the psyche (al-nafs) is only an accidental feature of that substance. By contrast modern psycho therapy is almost entirely focused on the subjective nature of the nafs (psyche) which it believes it can treat independently of the objective criteria of the Ruh. This is a fundamental and major error and explains why so many postmodern psychological theories ( including those of some modernised Muslims) are inherently dysfunctional. It is fortunate that many classically trained Muslim psychologists like Al-Ghazali and Ibn Sina would never have ventured into the postmodern world of the psyche since it operates entirely outside and away from the domain of the Islamic cosmological paradigm. Rothman, by contrast, assumes that modern psycho-therapy could, by hook or by crook, be grafted onto an "Islamic view" without any obvious criticism of their very limited practicality and usefulness to Islam. What Rothman should have said is that contemporary psycho therapy is a deeply problematic enterprise (owing to his modern biases and limitations) and therefore inherently unfitting as an aid for the development of an authentic Islamic psychology.
Well said David. Thank you for your brilliant post. You seem to be person of considerable knowledge on this issue. In fact, "Islamic psychology" is a largely western misnomer invented by 19th Century Orientalists to fit their own particular sexual interests. In classical Islamic times psychology was a feature of traditional Islamic spirituality and the basis of that is the Quran. The big mistake Rothman makes is to treat the nafs as the Soul whereas in fact it relates to the Spirit. I agree with your insight, I think Rothman, as a western psychotherapist, is trying to inject or graft his own cultural psychological prejudices onto Muslims. However, his interview here really highlights the difficulty Rothman has in explaining how the western paradigm, which makes the psyche (nafs) paramount, could be in any position to analyse the spirit (ruh) or the heart (qalb). This is his biggest weakness and he fails to articulate the difference between the two paradigms. The western fetishist interest in Islam is what Rothman is expressing here but this has nothing to do with classical Islamic spirituality. I agree with your point, Rothman fails in a very dramatic way, to distinguish between the inherent weakness of the western paradigm (with its obsession with the psyche) and the Islamic paradigm, with its focus on the Spirit (ruh).
@@wafaabdullah2172 Thank you Wafa! Can I assume that you are from the Middle East?
@@DavidSmith-zl2ww Yes, I am from the Middle East. As you have already said, all of our great Islamic scientists and traditional Ulema like Al-Ghazali, Ibn Sina and Mulla Sadra would have wholly rejected Rothman's attempt to redefine "Islamic psychology" according to his own western relativistic prejudices. Rothman's western paradigm model has no place in Islam.
@@wafaabdullah2172 I think the point you are making is that modern psychotherapy has been influenced by Freud and Jung to a degree that makes it incompatible with traditional Islamic spirituality. Am I right? By the way are you a therapist yourself?
@@DavidSmith-zl2ww Hi David - no I am not a therapist by profession but I used to be before I gave it up. I am a Counsellor and currently work for the NHS. I agree completely with your brilliant analysis of Rothman's huge failings and yes I think Freud's personal intense hatred towards religion made him a highly unsuitable personality to study religious psychology of any kind. I also believe that Jung's collective psychism made Jungianism a relativistic theory which empties religious concepts of any authentic meaning. That is why so many therapists have left the profession.
Add Military Physcology. How Muslims are placed against one another using Physcology
✌phys, bro
It’s not working-your brainwashed military pinning Muslims against one another, child. You couldn’t persuade my brother Muhammad Ali to go kill for racist reasons like y’all. Clearly, you haven’t read the empathic sections of Melville’s Moby Dick either. Dicks only read Donald Duck cartoons.
Title should not be Islamic psychology but Islamic spirituality. And this doctor knows very little about it. Title demands a practising sufi who knows the best about this topic .
From your comment it seems that you're the one that knows very little about Islamic spirituality...
@@karimb972 ha ha . OK then name any three books on this topic written by Muslims which you read.