How A Wave Swinger Works & flying swings Waldameer accident
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Manufactures: Zamperla makes the wave swinger trade name flying carousel normally powered by two DC drive motors.
Zierer makes the trade name wave swinger also called the flying carousel. Zierers model is generally Hydraulic drive instead of DC motors.
Many other manufactures make the Wave swinger but not as many as Zamperla and Zierer.
Time lapse assembly traveling wave swinger on RUclips.
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I worked on the wave swinger at Busch Gardens Williamsburg which I believe is a zierer. If you e-stoped it the roatation would stop and leave the ride in the air. As an ops person you could pull the e-stop and manually lower it from the control panel. It was a trip seeing the ride stuck at an angle on the air. 😂 the other funny thing about that ride is how large the ride area is. The seats even at full speed are still within the gates.
@@dbarden89 that clearance is a good thing. Mine was a minimum footprint with trees lining the outside.
I RODE IT YESTERDAY! The Flying Swings were running on Labor Day, the last day of the season. I don't like the ride because it makes me sick but since there were no lines to get on it I made the sacrifice to show my support for the park I love so much.
A lesser known fact about the Zierer Wave Swinger is that it was actually developed by Schwarzkopf.. no, not Anton and his company, but his brother Franz, who was with Zierer at that time.
I know there are some Zierer Wave Swingers out there that are completely hydraulically driven. Not sure if they offered both options or if the oder ones are hydraulic and the newer ones electric, but the one at my hometown fair, which was an older one, was all hydraulic. The only electric motor that it has is the big motor driving the hydraulic pump.
I have seen some parks actually tear down their Wave Swingers annually, even if they are park models. They remove everything but the tree, which gets wrapped in a tarp. But all the seats, fiberglass panels, sweep arms and stuff comes off. Not only makes it easier to inspect and repair things, it's also better for the looks of those components when they aren't left exposed to the elements during the entire off-season.
A good way to see how the rotating tree with the bent top creates this motion is to look for a ride called "Hollywood Star". This ride type, while looking quite different at a first glance, uses the exact same principle. I don't think it ever made it to the US, as it was only built by a small German company in low numbers in the 1970s.
I remember reading about the ride's development and noticed that as well.
From what I've seen in a video showing the ride being set up it looks like the basket as the carousel portion is technically referred to is connected to cables that lift it up the mast at the start of the ride cycle. The cables appear to run through a fully wheel at the top of the mast just below the curved section near the top but in the video it doesn't show the installation of hydraulic cylinders outside of the mast so my guess is that the cylinder is located inside the mast itself?
Always a good day when RRM releases video
That parachuting valve, in aviation, is called a hydraulic fuse. They use it in the landing gear and other controls, so if the line breaks, it doesn't dump all the fluid out.
@@christopherswanson1628 hydraulic fuse! That’s interesting. I didn’t think they completely designed it but never knew where they would be used. This makes more sense now.
Thanks for the video Ryan!!! Always love riding the Swings at my local park. As soon as I seen this video all could hear was sound of the bar sliding up and down the chains when guest would board the ride. Brings bad happy memories of me and my mom ridding it as a kid. Her favorite ride of all time till this day!
I have worked on 2 "wave swingers" one was a Chance, the other was Zierer. When hitting the stop cycle or estop on Zierer, it slowed everything down normally to prevent the swings from wrap or banging into each other. Both had pretty good ride envelopes so in the event of full speed swinging the swings wouldn't hit any queue rails or trees etc.
BTW, the Summers eve plug was hilarious😂
@@Jenlovescoasters ha! Thanks!
I literally laughed out loud with the cut-aways at the start. Thanks for that Ryan!
@@JohnLosito awesome!
There also was an incident at Canada's wonderland in which a 17 year old female apparently fell out of their wave swinger attraction and was seriously injured as a result.
I feel like I'm going to be hearing about this at my state inspection license renewal in a couple months.
@@macsignals maybe
There's an excellent video showing how a wave swinger is assembled. It takes place at a local fair in Berlin and to be honest it has an excellent soundtrack to it as well.
Excellent video, Thanks for the well presented ride system explanation.
We used parachuting valves to prevent movement if a hose broke. Fantastic invention
@@kristierasmussen9000 very cool things.
You can ride the swings while I ride Skyhawk, haha. I enjoy the humor and off the top of the head nature of your videos.
@@LTCoasters thanks
Safety chains on ALL swing rides even Play ground and back yard swings needs to be mandatory. A few dollars for some chains can protect a person from serious harm
Always enjoy your stuff brother. I know Kennywood hasn't released like...any information at all about Steel Curtain. I'd love to hear your take on that. It's my home park and my sister was a ride op on it. She told me one of the lead mechanics had told her it was built on top of an old mine shaft... which seems very plausible given Pittsburgh's history and the physical location of the ride. Keep up the great work man! Imma get me a shirt here soon!
@@bprebula I’m very happy when I hear people enjoying the content. Thank you.
First thing, ruclips.net/video/qN-V5VlfqFE/видео.html here's a good video on how to put a Wave Swinger together step by step. Second thing, My home park Darien Lake has a Zierer Wave Swinger, Lasso, and it has been down most of the summer now, I was at the park today and there was a large square semi-transparent plastic tank with a quarter full of dark liquid with what I assume it hydrolic fluid and and a few swings tied off around it to make room for it.
Now, back in the 90's when I used to work there, i do remember one day (it was like the second last day of the season) when the lasso was all the way up and undulating without the canopy spinning like you explained, which was cool and weird at the same time. Also, for years when the lasso was in it's loading position, the canopy would still be very slowly rotating and the tree would also be spinning in the opposite direction, and your swing could be on the other side of the ride by the time the ride started up again depending on how fast the operator was.
Also, funny story, years ago when I was in my preteens, my friend and I went to the park during community days (kinda like preseason) back then the lasso was located where the emporium gift shop is now and we walked up to the ride an just saw a pole with a bent top sticking up in the air and we were asking each other is this a new ride they're building? What is this thing? Then we looked at the ground surrounding the ride and saw a couple piles of swings and carts of paneling and we're like, oh, the ride just hasn't been put together yet, looks so different and the bare canopy was sitting on the ground.
A lot of these chair swing rides cannot stop fast as it causes all the chairs to slam into each other. Therefore a lot of the stop buttons actually take a fairly long time to stop the canopy. So if the canopy was at full speed and either an E-stop was pressed and the canopy came down as an emergency bypass or if no E-stop was pressed and it was commanded to come back down (I know that at least some Zierer models will come down regardless of speed)... In either case, it seems more than likely that the ride canopy was just going to fast and it didn't have enough time to slow down. A model of the Zierer Wave Swinger (Mid 1970s) I have seen had manual brakes using a foot pedal and the operator controlled the braking using a foot pedal. No idea if it still operates like that.
@@DavidPlant1985 that’s really interesting. Sells most old rides used manual cables to drum brakes. I’m thinking of a classic scrambler.
@@ryantheridemechanic The model had the operator cabin in the center of the ride, effectively around the "tree".
When I worked our "Wave Swinger" at Kings Dominion (actually branded Schwartzkopf) back in the 90s, it had manually operated lift and rotate buttons, along with a manual brake pedal.
The operator booth was on the perimeter. I suspect those manual controls are gone now, but you actually needed a bit of skill to smoothly bring the ride to a stop.
I've operated Kennywood’s Zierer model. Fun little ride to run when parents don't try to sneak their tiny children on to the ride, and assume we don't enforce the 46 inch height requirement. Super bare bones on the inside of all that art work.
@@Stagnant_Gravy they look super funny with no fiberglass on them.
Knoebels has one of them as well :D Under the name Italian Trapeze
Kennywood's Zierer model still uses a foot pedal for braking
You're headrest looks like a seat from a gerstlaur train seat😊
@@antoineosburn8626 close. It’s from Intamin.
Just to help you out a bit: "Zierer" is pronounced "Tsee-rah".
@@Marco-nn1sd interesting
I was about to help him out as well with this bit of advice... I guess it's just not intuitive if you don't speak German. 😅
1. Zierer = “Tseerer”
2. The brake requires power to *open*. Says so right in the video. Okay, so if you dump the power to the ride, both drives will stop in a hurry, made even hurrier by the brake slamming shut. With the center turning at 17 RPM, that amount of mass means a lot of energy in the canopy. Because a sudden stop would be a Bad Thing™️, most of these rides have a mechanical fuse to keep that from happening: a shear pin that will…er…shear, uncoupling the canopy from the drive system. If that happens, there is no way to control the ride rotation. It will free-wheel until it comes to an uncontrolled stop. I don’t know if a sudden loss of power explains the descent, but a broken shear pin would certainly explain why the ride didn’t slow down.
This is a permanent ride, but because Zamperla probably offers it as a portable as well, I expect the ride controls include a power disconnect as required by NFPA 70:525*.
* National Electric Code, Article 525, which covers wiring requirements for carnivals, circuses, and the like.
So the circular stair platform models seem like they prevent collision with stationary objects if they come in fast but the tradeoff is the risk of guests falling down the stairs with no railing.
Also...crossfeed check valve is the double sided one. If there's a pressure differential, it'll open to either side that's lower pressure. We have one in the F-15 fuel system.
The tree slowing down won't actually speed up the upper assembly without more power from the upper motor.
Parachute valve, we call them rupture valves in the lift industry. I regularly have to overspeed the lift car to test them for safety certificates. Hydraulic lift manufacturers normally make their own versions that are easily adjusted with a set screw for different flow speeds but I've also seen ones that are fitted inside a hexagon shaped fitting and the adjustment is made by draining the oil and removing the hose.
Great video as normal! I worked for a brief period on a zierer version in the UK, I remember re chaining it but can't remember if we had a lowering bypass on an e stop
@@norwichreptileshed these valves were also in a hex shaped body. Didn’t look like they were adjustable but from the inside makes sense.
Can you do a video on how the zamperla roto shake works next?
Did any of these with this spectacular ornate design operate from the inside of the ride? I remember the ride operator behind a glass area with a lot of the mechanics (tree) behind him and it looked like oil and wd40 all over the place hahah. This was a traveling fair attraction back in the 90’s.
@@joeybradio I’m sure there are ones out there with the booth in the center. Not a safe proactive these days but many models exist.
What was that noise that they make wthen you try to stop it "wheck-wee"? 44:35 LOL Enjoyed as always!
@@dfgwm30 Dc ride made a loot of electrical feedback when they ramped down. At the very very end the brake applies and can make a squeezing sound.
Hey, how about a video on rollercoaster train hitches?
I love riding that tipe of ride the one at chessington world of adventures in uk have water which spary at the gest and they call it monkey swingers
@@WilliamWatson-bw9lo interesting feature
Could you maybe do a video about how the pushercart in a Vekoma launch coaster works? Like the Xpress in Walibi Holland or Rock 'n rollercoaster. Like how the train attaches to the pushercart and of course the launch itself
Can you make a video on air launch rides
@@JoshuaBarnes-tb4ig I am planning one yes.
Has anyone here ridden a Soriani and Moser Dream Machine? Those are legit fast especially fast in the level position. Mighty Bluegrass Shows had the only traveling one here in the U.S. when it debuted in 1999.
Oh yes!! I think you nailed it, Bad brake and a auto descending canopy. That makes sense. Now. Is the lower skirting attached to and spinning at the tree speed or is there another motor spinning the lower skirting!?
@@Littlefreetime a lot of them the skirt just mounts to the tree. It telescopes up with the basket and turns with the tree.
Believe Hershey has one
These are nice to look at
I won't ride them
they really don't look like much without all the decorations removed
@@dindog22 nope. Like a lot of rides it’s just a bunch of empty space.
Darn, no cardboard aided design on this one.
A similar incident recently happened in Canada.
Not that recently, if it’s the incident I am thinking of. It was at the CNE in Toronto. The hoist ropes broke, causing the canopy to drop unexpectedly. Zierer concluded that Conklin (I think this was before NAME) had used hoist ropes not ✝️approved by the manufacturer. The bulletin resulting from the incident specified that ONLY Zierer hoist ropes were to be used on the ride.
Last time I rode one of these, was at the fair... they didn't have the guide wires out far enough and me on the outside... my foot hit it hard enough to knock the shoe off... I was shaken but ok... and the amount of time, if I'd had a broken leg... that it took to get me back down after they "stopped it" (it did the typical slow to a stop then down instead of a quicker e-stop and down) was a while. Don't get me wrong, I know some time has to be taken, but they basically put me through almost a full timer ... which was set longer...
Physics would dictate that the canopy would not speed up when the tree stopped unless the motor was still running. Not have inertia stored in it that would transfer to the canopy when stopped. Only the motor acting against the tree can accelerate the canopy.
@@Porcf81 yea good point.
Well can someone go to Carowinds and fix theirs. The cycle is weird, short and runs slower compared to others out there.
I guess they bypassed safety to allowed the ride to operate momentarely and they are in trouble now for doing that.
@@4everpee extreme trouble.
It’ll be interesting to see what happened. If we ever hear. Sounds like the brake. I bet they still irradiated with that little boy.
@@christiwright3604 I bet!
@@ryantheridemechanic I meant irritated lmao 🤣
must be Friday. Ryan has uploaded
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Technically, you were second
@@definingimage actually upon closer inspection on the comment section they are in fact first
What's up with TT2? Closed untill 2025. Rumors in the blog-o-sphere are claiming that the supports on the top hat are cracked. What's your opinion
@@samich57 too many direction to go. I’ll have to think about it. I was thinking of doing a live stream and talking about some stuff one day soon.
Top Thrill Dumpster is a waste of space and actually has no matter being in this video on A WAVE SWINGER