This is so precious to me. My first child was stillborn & when I had my next child a daughter who we named Evangeline because one we thought it was beautiful name but two it means bringing the good news to the people, but here’s the thing she was born on February 2nd….this message today is giving me an overwhelming amount of emotion on so many levels especially where the world is at & on a personal level. She turns 29 today & I am so grateful to God & you 2 for sharing this today. It is giving me hope in such a dark time. My thanks & love to you both.
One surprising thing about Bill Murray is that he is a faithful Catholic and actually attends Traditional Latin Mass and he has a sister who is a religious. I think that explains the underlying humanity and redemptive qualities of many of his roles. A flawed sinner who finds redemption, albeit in comical ways😊
Wow I had no idea, he was already one of the few actors I had some respect for (mostly because you never see him politically pontificating like most do).
To update y’all: I left texts with Bill’s Executive Chef and his Restaurant’s GM. Charleston is a Small Big Towne: my girlfriend is neighbors with Chef and I am aquatinted with one of the GM’s coworkers. I’m getting in touch with Bill through the restaurant because of the importance of the restaurant scenes in the film and because Bill’s GM’s last name is literally Church. (*ever the comedian, eh, God?*) Amen.
Yesterday afternoon, I got permission to use Bill’s restaurant as a venue for my podcast 2-4 M-R. I watched him star as ‘Vin’ “St. Vincent” last night…and wept.
In Serbia we don't say that a groundhog comes out on Feb. 2nd, and if it sees its shadow there will be another 6 weeks of winter. We say that a she-bear does it on Sretenie, and I think it's beautiful.
Raised Baptist here, my heart feels so much more enriched and at home with this Orthodox lense. I refuse to participate in traditions I do not understand; this series is very enlightening.
In Russian Orthodoxy, the feast is called Sretenye, which means Meeting (of the Old and the New Testaments). According to the church tradition, St Simon made a deliberate mistranslation in Septuagint and wrote "a wife" instead of "a virgin will birth a Child" because he thought that must have been an error in the text. In the morning, he found that the translation had "virgin" in it. He wanted to correct it once again, but was stopped by the angel. God promised that Simeon would not die till he saw the Savior born of a virgin with his own eyes, that's why St. Simeon lived for so long. St. Anna, another one from the Old Testament world, was a virtuous widow and a prophetess who had lived almost all her life serving in the Temple. Symbolically speaking, there must be a man and a woman meeting Christ, obviously.
One of my all time favorite movies, especially because of it's philosophical and religious overtones. Every time I watch it, it see (or it reveals to me) something deeper in the idea it is playing out. A true work of art where the viewer gets to see something of themselves and life, like a magical mirror.
Have you seen this 2017 video by RUclipsr Neil Fennell who juxtaposed the 37 unique timelines shown in "Groundhog Day" to play out at the same time? You're gonna love it ruclips.net/video/K6kXx674Evc/видео.html
In Western Europe, a bright and sunny winter day will as a rule be colder than a dim, wet and cloudy winter day. This flips (obviously) with Spring. Basically its about areas of high pressure and no clouds to keep warmer and wetter air in. Wet and darker weather in Winter is due to the jet stream bringing in more humid and wetter weather in from the Atlantic.
I just get home (with my blessed candles) from the Liturgy of the Feast of the Presentation of Christ to find this in my feed. What an wonderful surprise!
I was reading about Syriac Christianity a few years ago and it mentioned how in the Syriac Churches it was tradition that St Simeon (and St John the Forerunner in other instances) conferred the priesthood onto Christ when he laid his hands upon Him when taking the Child into his arms, being that it was believed he was as an ancient OT elder and priest. So the priesthood of St Simeon gets conferred upon Jesus at the presentation in the Temple scene was the tradition. Just thought that was a beautiful and interesting.
The chalice and spoon used during communion are the Theotokos (The tongs which bring the coal) for purification. That is why using multiple spoons or cleansing between communicants was so scandalous and unacceptable. Thankfully my spiritual father was sending us those messages during the madness. This video helped clarify but I would have missed it without the previous knowledge.
Whoah, this made me connect some dots! Tongs were actually used to distribute the Eucharist during communion before the spoon was put in place to prevent accidents. I guess the Blood of Christ was dripping from the Body if the tongs were used. The level of symbolism is insane.
The 2nd of February is a big celebration here in Mexico, it is the last day of the Christmas season, it's linked to Epiphany, February 6th we eat special bread/cake that has a baby Jesus hidden in it, it represents Jesus being hidden from Herod, the person that gets the baby offers a party on the 2nd of February, The Presentation of Baby Jesus, also Known as "Día de la Candelaria" because the candle; in that party we eat tamales, that day every Mexican eats tamales. Candles are blessed at Mass too. Another one of our beautiful traditions.
So many wonderful stories that bring everyone together. Since the beginning of time, there have been seasonal stories told to those within whatever tribe or community you were born into. As man evolved, so did his stories according to his tradition. Understanding the seasons through story was man's way of surviving upon this world. Look to the Norse stories, Tibetan, Greek, Roman, Ancient Egypt, Japanese, Chinese, Hindu, Hebrew, Islam, and the Christian Story. Christ's story. Thank you Jonathan and Richard-treasured moments like this are rare. BTW~my husband and I love Groundhog Day! Also Scrooged with Bill Murray.
Thanks, Jonathan and Richard! I had read about Candlemas for the first time before Christmas. While I decided to take the majority of my Christmas decorations down on the Epiphany, I did leave up a nativity scene until today, Candlemas. Appreciate the background info!
Keeping your nativity scene on display through Candlemas is fairly common throughout Latin America and in some other places. I collect creches, so I have several set up right now. I unplugged my lights this past Saturday, the Leavetaking of Theophany, but I'll keep the creches up through February 9, the Leavetaking of the Presentation.
I live not too far from Punxsutawney, PA and I love the movie Groundhog Day. This was awesome learning the deeper meaning not only behind the day itself but the movie as well. Thank you both!!
I dont think I had heard before about the 40 days blessing for women being related to being so holy because they touched the holiness of birth or death... I would like to hear more about this if you could explain. There is a lot of "defilement" type language in the prayers for that to be the case. I say this as a mom who has happily done the 40 days and received the blessing twice and fully support it as a continued practice. But yeah. Theres some tough language in there for what youre saying to really be at the forefront of someones mind when reading them.
And I was wondering why the Christmas decoration was still displayed on the streets when I was in Warsaw at the end of January a few years back… Dla mnie to jest całkiem dziwne, bo w Słowacji to mamy inaczej.
@@Xanaseb Apart from the fact that Poland took the path of Ireland and is now the fastest secularising country around, those who DO cling to faith still practice that.
In Alberta, we have our own prognosticator, Balzac Billy. I wonder if each groundhog has controll over his own territory or they can influence each other's predictions.
Universal History, yes, I was having withdrawals. Hopefully it’ll be back to the distant past after this, but anything you guys do, I’m watching. And “We’ll baptize shark week” is spot on. Everything is Christ’s, just because it happened before He came doesn’t mean it wasn’t His to begin with. This was great. Spend 40 days in the flood to see the sun, 40 days of nothing to have the most important thing.
I love this. I'd love to hear more unpacking of other such remnants of larger feasts or festal periods. Some that jump out at me are the transition from April to May, the end of July with marine harvests and pilgrimage symbolism (see grotto builders), Michaelmas and Martinmas. I'm not sure where those line up from an Orthodox perspective but I offer them in terms of their symbolic implications. Also I like how Christianity fused the natural year of sun/sky and land events to the liturgical year. I truly enjoyed your conversation here. Here's to wishing you were my pub buddies. I love your channel Jonathan and I'm so glad I encountered Richard Rohlin through it. God bless you both and crown your efforts with His success! Oh yes, one more thing, I loved all the references to medieval understandings of man and the cosmos. I just finished reading The Discarded Image by C.S. Lewis and Art and Beauty in the Middle Ages by Umberto Eco.
"If you keep complaining, we'll baptize Shark Week." And "I don't care." Call me Chris Farley (I don't care): That was awesome! Literally awe-inspiring. Funny as it was, it is deadly too. In filling all things, Christ sucks all the oxygen out of the secular and pagan worldviews. All honor to him.
31:41 Baptizing Sharkweek 😂 33:08 As an atheist I see it the other way round: the circles (or rather the spiral) of history manifests itself in religion. I’m one of those guys that fell hard for the new Catastrophism and Lost Civilization thing that Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson and Robert Schoch have going on (- I also love the findings of Anthony Perrat). I don’t know what to make of the anachronisms yet. When I watch this whole playlist, it has so much more to offer even in my interpretation of the overarching story, than for example Randall Carlsons ramblings over Sacred Geometry. Sacred Geometry seems like a truly lost art, that almost nobody has elaborated on in the last 2k years, while Your lecture series here shows literally 1000+ years of Church history elaborating on the details of Universal History. - And so many symbols and hymns and Liturgy of the whole Year, that You present here seem to fit right in with whatever I like to read into them. - It’s astounding. I was raised as a Christian, so these things resonate more with me than some Pythagorean or Alchemist or Freemason / Rosicrucian readings of Occult / Hidden wisdom. I also exploit / read into things whenever for example Jackson Crawford makes videos about Odin hanging himself from the Tree. The mystery in all cases remains the same: thinking that historical myths and legends and symbols would “preserve” knowledge about something that happened 12k years ago is illogical at its base, it’s completely anachronistic. Yet some symbols just fit. Recognizing patterns and finding meanings that by all means just cannot be there still feels so rewarding, like deciphering a code. It has become a kind of pastime for me over the years. People probably think I’m going insane. For a Christian (and even an ex-Christian like me) all your findings hit home. And I think to a lesser degree your findings and the art you present with it even hit home for modern hobby-catastrophists like me. Some things seem straight out “synchronicities”: You made me look up the burning coal in Isiah 6, and the Sunday of Last Judgement for example. (Then also the names of the Sundays in Lent: I think a lot of this stuff really fits with rites that could have formed around the cataclysm. In my reading death and resurrection of Christ are about death and resurrection of human civilization, and the lance and fiery swords are the impactor etc - I think the hiding in the ground or the burial in the cave / resurrection from the cave fits my bill just as Noah’s Arch fits my bill.)
It's no coincidence that Phil carries the same name as the rodent in the movie Ground Hog Day but, often missed as important, Rita is also an appropriate name for the woman he desires: rita, the birthmother of dharma (duty) and karma (the accumulated effects of good and bad actions). A beautiful movie.
@@olgakarpushina492 Rita can also be a deminutive form of señhorita, meaning unmarried woman. There can be many ways to translate and derive meaning from words. Personally, I prefer the ancient Vedic link for Rita, rta, for how it fits within the storyline of this particular movie: Phil had no choice but to eventually capitulate to her powers. 🙏
@@olgakarpushina492 Buddhism was not an alien cultural element to the writer Harold Ramis, a personal friend of the Dalai Lama. Buddhist philosophy was a common element for Ramis: remember Carl Spackler in Caddyshack? Gunga galunga.
AMAZING how the MOVIES + MUSIC when watched again, years later..........has a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT meaning(s), a much deeper-- more personal message. This it WHAT GOOD "ART/CONTENT" SHOULD DO. "Groundhog day" is a simple movie/cute movie @ first glance, but has different levels__good stuff & great acting. +++ another great movie: '"AMERICAN BEAUTY'"
Hello! Here (see commentary below) is recent video of 3 mn recently recommended by Jordan Peterson on twiter about systematic reviews of studies showing that faith is a sustaining meaning even in darkests times.
"In a certain sense, the end of the world has already come for the person to whom the world is crucified. And to one who is dead to worldly things the day of the Lord has already arrived, for the Son of Man comes to the soul of the one who no longer lives for sin or for the world" Origen - Commentary on Matthew
Jonathan, when are you gonna have Dr. Jordan B. Cooper on the show? he's a Lutheran professor on youtube. he recently did a video on christology. I think having him on to talk about the church fathers or to talk about the protestant Reformation would be awesome! he's really educated. and I pray all the time for unification of the church. I feel like even if you two didn't agree on most things, coming from a different tradition, it would still be so good to get some cross-denomoninational conversation going with two guys of such high scholarly caliber
Logos Made Flesh has a stellar video on the hidden meaning of Groundhog Day, and a ton of other great symbolism in film content. He is a brother in Christ, and sadly he is approaching his final days, please Jonathan check him out!
Richard exaggerates in calling March 25 THE traditional date for the crucifixion. In the East, the traditional date was April 6, which is why the Eastern dates of the Nativity and Presentation were originally January 6 and February 14, respectively. The Armenian Apostolic Church still keeps these dates.
I recently saw that this latest turnout for Ground Hog's Day in Punxsutawney was the largest crowd they've ever had. Last year's Groundhog Day was held virtually, so maybe this year's turn out has something to do with the fact that people are sick of being cooped up. On a personal level, it seems like I've heard more about Ground Hog's Day this year than I remember ever hearing about before. On a bigger picture, it's interesting that so many people were so excited for the day considering the times we are living in. It almost seems like winter has been dragging on for 2 years since the virus. Seems like there is some deeper meaning in the collective unconscious tied to Ground Hog's Day than what meets the eye at first glance. News outlets covering the event usually do so with an aire of making fun and joking about it, but they are still covering the event.
"You know, you want a prediction about the weather, you're asking the wrong Phil. I'll give you a winter prediction. It's gonna be cold, it's gonna be grey, and it's going to last you for the rest of your life."
There's a briliant 2017 video by RUclipsr Neil Fennell who juxtaposed the 37 unique timelines shown in "Groundhog Day" to play out at the same time. It's worth watching it! ruclips.net/video/K6kXx674Evc/видео.html
A fine channel, sir. But to be fair, there is a plentiful lack of Jewish interviewees and deep explorations of the Hebraic underpinnings of Christianity. You should invite a Chassid on the podcast: I think it could be a really joyous and deep talk. Fare thee well.
I wonder how much of the liturgical/seasonal symbolism is lost for people in the southern hemisphere, especially since more than half of total christians live there
Hmmm…thinking of the Acts of Mercy Christ describes and contrition followed by fasting…gotta love those Acts of Mercy….they just keep popping up everywhere…..glossed over or not…they are the real deal….the game of all games you might say…..
Phil Connors on theosis, in conversation with Rita: Phil Connors: I'm a god. Rita: You are God? Phil Connors: I'm a god, I'm not the God. I don't think.
hey guys, do you know if you're gonna talk someday about the situation in the middle east through the symbolic lens. I see especially Lebanon as a central point where East and West collide (as the land of Rohan), and their civil war (1975-1991) has intrigued me much lately. I went down this rabbit hole, and can't seem to get out of it before I could figure out what is happening down there... Most of the Christians (Maronite and Orthodox) trace back their evangelization to Mark the evangelist, and their faith is pretty much alive. Maronites spent most of the Middle Ages hidden in caves up in the mountains after being kicked out of the cities by the shiia. All their saints are hermits, Saint Charbel, Saint Rafqa, Saint marina/os ( beautiful hagiography), with extremely charismatic personalities , all link to the earth and cedar of Lebanon in their collective imagination. To this day muslims will go pray to Saint Charbel and ask his intercession. "Lebanon, this green land, has Charbel and the Virgin" they say. What is specifically the symbolism of that land? The explosion in their port, blasting all the wheat supply seem oddly similar to the food depravation the turks made them suffer last century with the blockade of the west. Is last century's symbolism happening all over again, all over the world? Lord have mercy on us...
How does this relate to Celts, Rus’Ukrainians, Mayans, a certain Native American corn culture tribe, etc. sacrificing a virgin in the spring to assure a good harvest? Or is that in March? Ukrainian Malanka is Julian NewYear’s, January 14. Remember that Stravinsky’s dad was basso profundo church and opera singer. Rite of Spring based on paleoanthropology of Rus’ Ukraine popular at the time.
The significance of the groundhog seeing its own shadow brings to mind the responses to the truckers convoy in Canada. We can choose to see the light, or we can choose to see the darkness, as all is revealed in Christ. Online responses to the truckers see them as both redeemers and the unredeemed, depending on one's own perspective. So I appreciate the applicability of this commentary. (Also, Laurus is absolutely amazing, and I endorse their endorsement.)
This is so precious to me. My first child was stillborn & when I had my next child a daughter who we named Evangeline because one we thought it was beautiful name but two it means bringing the good news to the people, but here’s the thing she was born on February 2nd….this message today is giving me an overwhelming amount of emotion on so many levels especially where the world is at & on a personal level. She turns 29 today & I am so grateful to God & you 2 for sharing this today. It is giving me hope in such a dark time. My thanks & love to you both.
Happy birthday to her, and thank you for sharing this beautiful connection
Many Years to Evangeline!
I am grateful for you sharing. Appreciate you much! 🤗
My wife is pregnant and due on May 15th. We picked out the name Evangeline as well. Great name
@@titwillytyler Congratulations! I pray your wife has a healthy pregnancy & blessings to you & your family. 🙏
One surprising thing about Bill Murray is that he is a faithful Catholic and actually attends Traditional Latin Mass and he has a sister who is a religious. I think that explains the underlying humanity and redemptive qualities of many of his roles. A flawed sinner who finds redemption, albeit in comical ways😊
Wow I had no idea, he was already one of the few actors I had some respect for (mostly because you never see him politically pontificating like most do).
Bill lives near me in Charleston. I’ll ask to see if he wants to be on the Symbolic World. I’ll sync up with The Fool on The Discord.
I have a quote from him that seems to say otherwise
To update y’all: I left texts with Bill’s Executive Chef and his Restaurant’s GM. Charleston is a Small Big Towne: my girlfriend is neighbors with Chef and I am aquatinted with one of the GM’s coworkers.
I’m getting in touch with Bill through the restaurant because of the importance of the restaurant scenes in the film and because Bill’s GM’s last name is literally Church. (*ever the comedian, eh, God?*) Amen.
Yesterday afternoon, I got permission to use Bill’s restaurant as a venue for my podcast 2-4 M-R. I watched him star as ‘Vin’ “St. Vincent” last night…and wept.
In Serbia we don't say that a groundhog comes out on Feb. 2nd, and if it sees its shadow there will be another 6 weeks of winter. We say that a she-bear does it on Sretenie, and I think it's beautiful.
Baptist protestant here... why do I love this series so much?? Thanks to you both
Raised Baptist here, my heart feels so much more enriched and at home with this Orthodox lense. I refuse to participate in traditions I do not understand; this series is very enlightening.
To be fair, Jonathan and Richard are both former Baptists themselves.
Ditto the sentiment. Discerning whether to stay or go denominationally, if I go, Eastern Catholicism seems most likely.
In Russian Orthodoxy, the feast is called Sretenye, which means Meeting (of the Old and the New Testaments). According to the church tradition, St Simon made a deliberate mistranslation in Septuagint and wrote "a wife" instead of "a virgin will birth a Child" because he thought that must have been an error in the text. In the morning, he found that the translation had "virgin" in it. He wanted to correct it once again, but was stopped by the angel. God promised that Simeon would not die till he saw the Savior born of a virgin with his own eyes, that's why St. Simeon lived for so long. St. Anna, another one from the Old Testament world, was a virtuous widow and a prophetess who had lived almost all her life serving in the Temple. Symbolically speaking, there must be a man and a woman meeting Christ, obviously.
One of my all time favorite movies, especially because of it's philosophical and religious overtones. Every time I watch it, it see (or it reveals to me) something deeper in the idea it is playing out. A true work of art where the viewer gets to see something of themselves and life, like a magical mirror.
Have you seen this 2017 video by RUclipsr Neil Fennell who juxtaposed the 37 unique timelines shown in "Groundhog Day" to play out at the same time? You're gonna love it ruclips.net/video/K6kXx674Evc/видео.html
Not going to lie, I was not expecting this podcast duo to cover Groundhog Day at all. But I'm so glad they did ;)
See, you are organized. You guys planned this! :)
This movie had a powerful impact on me when I watched it. Now even more meaningful.
We're going to need a Richard Rohlin clips channel.
In Western Europe, a bright and sunny winter day will as a rule be colder than a dim, wet and cloudy winter day. This flips (obviously) with Spring. Basically its about areas of high pressure and no clouds to keep warmer and wetter air in. Wet and darker weather in Winter is due to the jet stream bringing in more humid and wetter weather in from the Atlantic.
I just get home (with my blessed candles) from the Liturgy of the Feast of the Presentation of Christ to find this in my feed. What an wonderful surprise!
If Candlemas be fair and bright
Come, winter, have another flight.
If Candlemas brings clouds and rain,
Go, winter, and come not again.
I was reading about Syriac Christianity a few years ago and it mentioned how in the Syriac Churches it was tradition that St Simeon (and St John the Forerunner in other instances) conferred the priesthood onto Christ when he laid his hands upon Him when taking the Child into his arms, being that it was believed he was as an ancient OT elder and priest. So the priesthood of St Simeon gets conferred upon Jesus at the presentation in the Temple scene was the tradition. Just thought that was a beautiful and interesting.
What book was that? I want to know more
“Early Syriac Theology” by Seely Beggiani
I dropped an Amazon link to the book.
@@iliya3110 thanks man
The chalice and spoon used during communion are the Theotokos (The tongs which bring the coal) for purification. That is why using multiple spoons or cleansing between communicants was so scandalous and unacceptable. Thankfully my spiritual father was sending us those messages during the madness. This video helped clarify but I would have missed it without the previous knowledge.
Whoah, this made me connect some dots! Tongs were actually used to distribute the Eucharist during communion before the spoon was put in place to prevent accidents. I guess the Blood of Christ was dripping from the Body if the tongs were used.
The level of symbolism is insane.
The 2nd of February is a big celebration here in Mexico, it is the last day of the Christmas season, it's linked to Epiphany, February 6th we eat special bread/cake that has a baby Jesus hidden in it, it represents Jesus being hidden from Herod, the person that gets the baby offers a party on the 2nd of February, The Presentation of Baby Jesus, also Known as "Día de la Candelaria" because the candle; in that party we eat tamales, that day every Mexican eats tamales. Candles are blessed at Mass too. Another one of our beautiful traditions.
That was a beautiful meditation for Candlemas. Thank you guys. - from Chicago.
Great video. Remember to get your throats blessed tomorrow using St. Blaise’s candles. His life and death really tie into this.
We light the candle during storms as well
So many wonderful stories that bring everyone together. Since the beginning of time, there have been seasonal stories told to those within whatever tribe or community you were born into. As man evolved, so did his stories according to his tradition. Understanding the seasons through story was man's way of surviving upon this world. Look to the Norse stories, Tibetan, Greek, Roman, Ancient Egypt, Japanese, Chinese, Hindu, Hebrew, Islam, and the Christian Story. Christ's story. Thank you Jonathan and Richard-treasured moments like this are rare. BTW~my husband and I love Groundhog Day! Also Scrooged with Bill Murray.
Thanks, Jonathan and Richard! I had read about Candlemas for the first time before Christmas. While I decided to take the majority of my Christmas decorations down on the Epiphany, I did leave up a nativity scene until today, Candlemas. Appreciate the background info!
Keeping your nativity scene on display through Candlemas is fairly common throughout Latin America and in some other places. I collect creches, so I have several set up right now. I unplugged my lights this past Saturday, the Leavetaking of Theophany, but I'll keep the creches up through February 9, the Leavetaking of the Presentation.
Happy candlemass, everyone!
The way everything connects is unbelievable. Incredible video, incredible series
I live not too far from Punxsutawney, PA and I love the movie Groundhog Day. This was awesome learning the deeper meaning not only behind the day itself but the movie as well. Thank you both!!
I dont think I had heard before about the 40 days blessing for women being related to being so holy because they touched the holiness of birth or death... I would like to hear more about this if you could explain. There is a lot of "defilement" type language in the prayers for that to be the case. I say this as a mom who has happily done the 40 days and received the blessing twice and fully support it as a continued practice. But yeah. Theres some tough language in there for what youre saying to really be at the forefront of someones mind when reading them.
Incredible video! One of the best films ever made.
I don't know about other countries, but in Poland it is fairly common knowledge that the Christmas period ends on 2nd Feb.
And I was wondering why the Christmas decoration was still displayed on the streets when I was in Warsaw at the end of January a few years back…
Dla mnie to jest całkiem dziwne, bo w Słowacji to mamy inaczej.
@@MRresoMC A ako je to na Slovensku? Kedy končia Vianoce?
@@muadek Szóstego stycznia według nowego kalendarza. Więc tych 12 dni o których mówił o Jonathan w filmiku.
Matka Boska Gromniczna! It would be a shame if the tradition of Gromnicy died out... is it still being practised in Poland?
@@Xanaseb Apart from the fact that Poland took the path of Ireland and is now the fastest secularising country around, those who DO cling to faith still practice that.
Honestly, some of the best work in the emerging Symbolic discussion space.
Appreciate this. Makes me think about Genesis 9:20 and Hebrews 4:12. Thank you so much. Appreciate you all!
In Alberta, we have our own prognosticator, Balzac Billy. I wonder if each groundhog has controll over his own territory or they can influence each other's predictions.
They probably all play poker together
Thanks Richard and Jonathan!
This is such a beautiful episode!
yes, I love the whole universal history series and anxiously await new episodes.
С праздником and Blessed Feast Jonathan and Richard! Great video!
9:00 It's the same in the RCC, if anyone asks:)
Universal History, yes, I was having withdrawals. Hopefully it’ll be back to the distant past after this, but anything you guys do, I’m watching. And “We’ll baptize shark week” is spot on. Everything is Christ’s, just because it happened before He came doesn’t mean it wasn’t His to begin with. This was great. Spend 40 days in the flood to see the sun, 40 days of nothing to have the most important thing.
I love this. I'd love to hear more unpacking of other such remnants of larger feasts or festal periods. Some that jump out at me are the transition from April to May, the end of July with marine harvests and pilgrimage symbolism (see grotto builders), Michaelmas and Martinmas. I'm not sure where those line up from an Orthodox perspective but I offer them in terms of their symbolic implications. Also I like how Christianity fused the natural year of sun/sky and land events to the liturgical year. I truly enjoyed your conversation here. Here's to wishing you were my pub buddies. I love your channel Jonathan and I'm so glad I encountered Richard Rohlin through it. God bless you both and crown your efforts with His success! Oh yes, one more thing, I loved all the references to medieval understandings of man and the cosmos. I just finished reading The Discarded Image by C.S. Lewis and Art and Beauty in the Middle Ages by Umberto Eco.
"If you keep complaining, we'll baptize Shark Week." And "I don't care."
Call me Chris Farley (I don't care): That was awesome! Literally awe-inspiring. Funny as it was, it is deadly too. In filling all things, Christ sucks all the oxygen out of the secular and pagan worldviews. All honor to him.
Man that was awesome. What a delightful surprise. I had no idea about all the meaning behind the holiday. I'll never think the same about it again.
31:41 Baptizing Sharkweek 😂 33:08
As an atheist I see it the other way round: the circles (or rather the spiral) of history manifests itself in religion.
I’m one of those guys that fell hard for the new Catastrophism and Lost Civilization thing that Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson and Robert Schoch have going on (- I also love the findings of Anthony Perrat).
I don’t know what to make of the anachronisms yet. When I watch this whole playlist, it has so much more to offer even in my interpretation of the overarching story, than for example Randall Carlsons ramblings over Sacred Geometry. Sacred Geometry seems like a truly lost art, that almost nobody has elaborated on in the last 2k years, while Your lecture series here shows literally 1000+ years of Church history elaborating on the details of Universal History. - And so many symbols and hymns and Liturgy of the whole Year, that You present here seem to fit right in with whatever I like to read into them. - It’s astounding.
I was raised as a Christian, so these things resonate more with me than some Pythagorean or Alchemist or Freemason / Rosicrucian readings of Occult / Hidden wisdom.
I also exploit / read into things whenever for example Jackson Crawford makes videos about Odin hanging himself from the Tree.
The mystery in all cases remains the same: thinking that historical myths and legends and symbols would “preserve” knowledge about something that happened 12k years ago is illogical at its base, it’s completely anachronistic. Yet some symbols just fit.
Recognizing patterns and finding meanings that by all means just cannot be there still feels so rewarding, like deciphering a code. It has become a kind of pastime for me over the years. People probably think I’m going insane.
For a Christian (and even an ex-Christian like me) all your findings hit home. And I think to a lesser degree your findings and the art you present with it even hit home for modern hobby-catastrophists like me.
Some things seem straight out “synchronicities”: You made me look up the burning coal in Isiah 6, and the Sunday of Last Judgement for example. (Then also the names of the Sundays in Lent: I think a lot of this stuff really fits with rites that could have formed around the cataclysm. In my reading death and resurrection of Christ are about death and resurrection of human civilization, and the lance and fiery swords are the impactor etc - I think the hiding in the ground or the burial in the cave / resurrection from the cave fits my bill just as Noah’s Arch fits my bill.)
I absolutely loved this! Thanks so much!
It's no coincidence that Phil carries the same name as the rodent in the movie Ground Hog Day but, often missed as important, Rita is also an appropriate name for the woman he desires: rita, the birthmother of dharma (duty) and karma (the accumulated effects of good and bad actions). A beautiful movie.
Rita is a deminutive form of Margarita, meaning Pearl.
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Satya -> Rta -> Dharma
Truth -> truth in action -> Dharma
@@olgakarpushina492 Rita can also be a deminutive form of señhorita, meaning unmarried woman.
There can be many ways to translate and derive meaning from words. Personally, I prefer the ancient Vedic link for Rita, rta, for how it fits within the storyline of this particular movie: Phil had no choice but to eventually capitulate to her powers. 🙏
@@jlloydb1of9 you bring cultural elements that are alien to the arching encompassing story into this narrative. This doesn't work.
@@olgakarpushina492 Buddhism was not an alien cultural element to the writer Harold Ramis, a personal friend of the Dalai Lama. Buddhist philosophy was a common element for Ramis: remember Carl Spackler in Caddyshack? Gunga galunga.
Literally 1 hr video just about groundhog day lol, Let's goo!! :)
If I missed any reference of candles to the light in the prayer of St. Symeon, I apologize.
Great interview. Thanks
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Beautiful. Thank you
Well, it's Groundhog Day..... again....
AMAZING how the MOVIES + MUSIC when watched again, years later..........has a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT meaning(s), a much deeper-- more personal message. This it WHAT GOOD "ART/CONTENT" SHOULD DO. "Groundhog day" is a simple movie/cute movie @ first glance, but has different levels__good stuff & great acting. +++ another great movie: '"AMERICAN BEAUTY'"
This was cool thanks guys!
Great video
Hello! Here (see commentary below) is recent video of 3 mn recently recommended by Jordan Peterson on twiter about systematic reviews of studies showing that faith is a sustaining meaning even in darkests times.
ruclips.net/video/2TnuPATDWps/видео.html
"In a certain sense, the end of the world has already come for the person to whom the world is crucified. And to one who is dead to worldly things the day of the Lord has already arrived, for the Son of Man comes to the soul of the one who no longer lives for sin or for the world" Origen - Commentary on Matthew
Wiarton Willie predicted early spring! Now if only he could predict how my stonks will do in the new year dood.
Jonathan, when are you gonna have Dr. Jordan B. Cooper on the show? he's a Lutheran professor on youtube. he recently did a video on christology. I think having him on to talk about the church fathers or to talk about the protestant Reformation would be awesome! he's really educated. and I pray all the time for unification of the church. I feel like even if you two didn't agree on most things, coming from a different tradition, it would still be so good to get some cross-denomoninational conversation going with two guys of such high scholarly caliber
Beautiful!!
people often say its a Bhuddist rebirth story (the film), but they can't see that it's actually a Christian story
Logos Made Flesh has a stellar video on the hidden meaning of Groundhog Day, and a ton of other great symbolism in film content. He is a brother in Christ, and sadly he is approaching his final days, please Jonathan check him out!
I believe they've done a video together. It's on this channel! ruclips.net/video/Fz3B3OGPhIw/видео.html
@@DanielShalomLawrence Ayo!!
Pageau for PM👏👏
Feast Day of St. Laurence of Canterbury, too!
I would suggest a discussion of another Murray movie, namely, The Razor's Edge
Haha who would have thought, I love it! We’ve decided to watch the movie next week.
Richard exaggerates in calling March 25 THE traditional date for the crucifixion. In the East, the traditional date was April 6, which is why the Eastern dates of the Nativity and Presentation were originally January 6 and February 14, respectively. The Armenian Apostolic Church still keeps these dates.
Chinese traditional medicine also has the mother stay home 40 days.
Thankyou !!! Awesome!!!!!
Wow - in Hungary we have the same "folk tradition" but instead of groundhogs, we talk of "the bear" that comes out of its cave.......
I recently saw that this latest turnout for Ground Hog's Day in Punxsutawney was the largest crowd they've ever had. Last year's Groundhog Day was held virtually, so maybe this year's turn out has something to do with the fact that people are sick of being cooped up. On a personal level, it seems like I've heard more about Ground Hog's Day this year than I remember ever hearing about before. On a bigger picture, it's interesting that so many people were so excited for the day considering the times we are living in. It almost seems like winter has been dragging on for 2 years since the virus. Seems like there is some deeper meaning in the collective unconscious tied to Ground Hog's Day than what meets the eye at first glance. News outlets covering the event usually do so with an aire of making fun and joking about it, but they are still covering the event.
01 Feb, St Brigid's day became a state public holiday yesterday.
Traditionally, its thr first day of spring
Ground dwelling rodents do not rule my life.
Cave living humans however do.
bud the chud?
"You know, you want a prediction about the weather, you're asking the wrong Phil. I'll give you a winter prediction. It's gonna be cold, it's gonna be grey, and it's going to last you for the rest of your life."
we're all still waiting for the analysis of Matrix 4..
No wonder he always sees his shadow! It’s because there’s always Pascha! Amen amen amen!
There's a briliant 2017 video by RUclipsr Neil Fennell who juxtaposed the 37 unique timelines shown in "Groundhog Day" to play out at the same time. It's worth watching it! ruclips.net/video/K6kXx674Evc/видео.html
Love it
It’s probably way too long, but I would love to see Jonathan break down One Piece and it’s characters
That Orthodox Festival sounds amazing! Sadly you guys are quite far away. I live in Maryland.
There are several Orthodox churches in Maryland area.
@@ButterBobBriggs Well yes, I’m apart of one. I’m talking about the event Richard talked about at the end of the video that’s happening in February.
@@Joefrenomics Sorry, I misunderstood your comment.
For years I’ve been telling people that Groundhog Day is the greatest film and they look at me as if I’m nuts.
I see online that the chiborum is the cup that holds the blood of Christ. Am I spelling it wrong? How do you refer to the canopy with the curtain?
Do you have a reference for the Colonial Williamsburg poem?
A fine channel, sir. But to be fair, there is a plentiful lack of Jewish interviewees and deep explorations of the Hebraic underpinnings of Christianity. You should invite a Chassid on the podcast: I think it could be a really joyous and deep talk.
Fare thee well.
I though Groundhog Day was some kind of occult Masonic thing until watching this. Thanks!
In the end, Phill becomes a savior
There is a Tom Cruise movie similar to the premise of Groundhog Day. What’s the name of it?
I wonder how much of the liturgical/seasonal symbolism is lost for people in the southern hemisphere, especially since more than half of total christians live there
Interestingly enough, one on the readings for next Sunday (Roman Catholic) Liturgy is precisely Isaiah 6 1:8
Hmmm…thinking of the Acts of Mercy Christ describes and contrition followed by fasting…gotta love those Acts of Mercy….they just keep popping up everywhere…..glossed over or not…they are the real deal….the game of all games you might say…..
Phil Connors on theosis, in conversation with Rita:
Phil Connors: I'm a god.
Rita: You are God?
Phil Connors: I'm a god, I'm not the God. I don't think.
hey guys, do you know if you're gonna talk someday about the situation in the middle east through the symbolic lens. I see especially Lebanon as a central point where East and West collide (as the land of Rohan), and their civil war (1975-1991) has intrigued me much lately. I went down this rabbit hole, and can't seem to get out of it before I could figure out what is happening down there... Most of the Christians (Maronite and Orthodox) trace back their evangelization to Mark the evangelist, and their faith is pretty much alive. Maronites spent most of the Middle Ages hidden in caves up in the mountains after being kicked out of the cities by the shiia. All their saints are hermits, Saint Charbel, Saint Rafqa, Saint marina/os ( beautiful hagiography), with extremely charismatic personalities , all link to the earth and cedar of Lebanon in their collective imagination. To this day muslims will go pray to Saint Charbel and ask his intercession. "Lebanon, this green land, has Charbel and the Virgin" they say. What is specifically the symbolism of that land? The explosion in their port, blasting all the wheat supply seem oddly similar to the food depravation the turks made them suffer last century with the blockade of the west. Is last century's symbolism happening all over again, all over the world? Lord have mercy on us...
Why do the Muslims ask for St. Charbel’s intercession? Isn’t he a Christian?
4:40 Here in Hungarian transylvania we have this with the bears. When the bear comes out and sees his shadow he’ll go back in hibernation
....Seen this one before...
how much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
Maybe Whoopie should watch “Groundhog Day” to learn meaning of true repentance.
"And some flapjacks!"
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...in Australia they're called Koala Bears...?
Temples of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has a ciborium in their celestial room i.e. Red Cliffs Temple in southern Utah
How does this relate to Celts, Rus’Ukrainians, Mayans, a certain Native American corn culture tribe, etc. sacrificing a virgin in the spring to assure a good harvest? Or is that in March? Ukrainian Malanka is Julian NewYear’s, January 14. Remember that Stravinsky’s dad was basso profundo church and opera singer. Rite of Spring based on paleoanthropology of Rus’ Ukraine popular at the time.
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The significance of the groundhog seeing its own shadow brings to mind the responses to the truckers convoy in Canada. We can choose to see the light, or we can choose to see the darkness, as all is revealed in Christ. Online responses to the truckers see them as both redeemers and the unredeemed, depending on one's own perspective. So I appreciate the applicability of this commentary. (Also, Laurus is absolutely amazing, and I endorse their endorsement.)
Far be it from me to defend materialism, but a materialist groundhog may or may not see his shadow due to how overcast it is (or isn't).
...Groundhog seen shoveling snow...