Looks good on your mill, good to see the manufacturer working with You Tube creators, yes it's marketing, but showing one fitted, and honest review is best of both worlds in my humble opinion. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks John, I tried to be as objective as possible even though I was part of the development of this hub model. Jim and I worked on a number of measurements and design ideas, I was glad to help him how I could, but he really is the one to credit with the final production model design.
Thanks Chuck, I do think having a wheel on a mill for most operations is preferable to the single handle on a BP or a 3-spoke handle like is typical for an RF-style machine. Jim is a pretty cool guy too, it was fun doing prototyping with him.
Jim must be getting quite a selection of fitments for different mills! His products seem to be first class! I like that you can always grab the wheel at a comfortable position, not just where the spokes are! That is important for the people trying to work around their arthritis in their hands!
In talking with Jim he is happy to be gathering data from quill feed hubs on various machines, trying to make the system work on as many machines as possible. It was fun working with him on this one.
Thanks Paul! I tried to be as balanced as I could but have to admit to helping Jim in the development of it so have to give my notion of objectivity a reality check.
Nice! I made land up getting one of those Wrong Foo mills. Thanks for showing it. Helping someone else develop a product is cool. Don't feel bad sharing. Hope everyone is ok at home. Cheers
Thanks Yves, we're all doing well here, if not a bit tired around work and wee ones. It was fun working with Jim on this project and sounds like he has some other cool ideas for tools in the works too.
Thanks Max! Well, to be fair to Francisco there are a number of commercially available tools that can be made for significantly less at home depending on one's tools and abilities - your work is an excellent example of this. However, I will admit that I have to respectfully disagree with his point that this hub is quick to make. You have one yourself to see, and I made a prototype of it which took quite a bit of time. Not impossible for the home shop but does take a bit of work (including the blind hole keyway).
Thanks Robert, we're doing ok here, just tired and busy with work and wee ones. Got some work-related stuff in editing right now so hopefully new video up soon.
I picked up an old cast iron 6 spoke wheel from the dump and put it on the other side to raise and lower the head of the machine. It's 13" in diameter with a suicide knob sure makes quick work of raising or lowering the head.
That would totally work too - same basic idea. It was fun working with Jim as he was even saying how he was surprised no one came forward before him with a commercial version of the wheel on the Bridgeport-style mills, much less the mill-drills. I've heard from a few people who have adapted wheels at home, as you know it is an excellent feature to have.
Pretty neat accessory. I'd be interested in one for my Bridgeport. Thanks for sharing. BTW--Your video came up as 480p for some reason. Not sure whether that's something on my end or maybe you just use an older camera. Take care.
Thanks for watching, I found that it is a handy addition for sure. As for the video quality, I'm not sure why but sometimes RUclips winds up messing up videos on its end. I've had a few that wound up getting encoded and put live with sound desync too, sorry about that.
I love my Quill Wheel. I went through a similar collaboration with Jim to confirm hub sizes on my Precision Matthews clone knee mill. The fine folks in Taiwan shipped it with a single slot machine style handle and I hated it. Jim fixed me right up and it's a world of improvement. Now I have continuous fine fingertip control and I can grab at the spokes when I need to apply more pressure than I should!
Aren't the wheels handy? And if you've worked with Jim you know he's a cool guy too. I was originally skeptical of the Delrin hub but it seems to be quite good.
I like the concept... but what I would like to know is how the it holds up with hot chips and cutting fluids? The handle part looks like it might be directly in the machining chip path. Might not be nice if you grabbed the wheel and slide your hand across an embedded chip. Might want to consider a fully metallic version. Maybe a cast aluminum with finger grips?
I never thought about the embeddability of chips, but will keep an eye on it as it is being used. Haven't heard much from others with wheels about grabbing shrapnel in the hand from it. Not sure about the cutting fluids either yet but again no complaints heard from others who have had them longer. You make a good point, this will be part of the longer term reviewing of it.
I think those are neat; trying to figure how I could have adapted one for my bricklaying trowell (OK, so much for my humor). Good to see you in a video again and looking forward to many more when time allows, Greg.
Thanks Greg, got more video needing editing time, hopefully up soon. As for making it work with your trowel, Jim's got all sorts of tool ideas, you could give him a call and develop one with him, lol!
I can see the point but you would think that, hopefully, he is selling enough to have a symmetrical spoke arrangement made for him so it looks less like a cobbled together idea and a more like professional one. Yeh its only looks and does not affect the use but it sort of grates to look at it.😢
I see what you're saying, as the steering wheel spokes may not appear "balanced" to some. Not sure of Jim's sale volume as I don't receive any kick backs from him (apart from getting a wheel out of the deal for helping him with the project).
I was wondering if he was going to make one for the round column mills. I've been trying to figure out how to make one myself. I think I'll get in touch with him.
That is a thought, I have another wheel now for the newer mill and found that I simply like the way it is set up with the wheel. It is better than the spoked hub on the mill-drill in a number of ways and worlds above the basic handle on the BP clone!
Max Grant of Swan Valley Machine Shop down in Perth just did a review on the Tangent products too. Might want to watch it too. Its was a serious review and he does point out where there might be problems but it was a good review.
Thanks Clyde, I did see his video as well - he did a good job on his as he has both a bench mill and a Bridgeport and was able to show the wheel advantages on both.
Everett. Could you make an adaptor to fit between the wheel and the 3 spoke lever so you can have both on the mill together and then you have the choice which one is best to use for the task at hand. I dont have a mill so not sure if that is possiable. Stay safe and regards from Australia. Ps. I enjoy watching your vids.
I would get one of them wheels but I don't think it will fit any of my lathes. I have 4 lathes but do not have a mill.... I been looking for one but haven't found one that I want yet. I guess if I stopped buying lathes I might find a mill... Thanks for the video and review Everett!!!
I know it's not for everyone, but the wheel idea is handy whether it is purchased or made at home. I've seen the caliber of work you do, your wheel would be well-made!
Again the over priced steering wheel, Gocart wheel and a hub, aren’t any of you machinists able to drill three holes and a bore? It’s ninety bucks, ten minutes effort.
Hi Francisco, for what it's worth the round column and mini mills use a different quill drive handle hub from bigger knee type Bridgeport style machines. It involves special tapers, keyways cut into a blind hole, and a couple critical dimensions. A home machinist with decent gear could make one, but cost would depend on where you live and honestly to make this hub would take a few hours. Trust me, I made the prototype, lol.
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Looks good on your mill, good to see the manufacturer working with You Tube creators, yes it's marketing, but showing one fitted, and honest review is best of both worlds in my humble opinion.
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks John, I tried to be as objective as possible even though I was part of the development of this hub model. Jim and I worked on a number of measurements and design ideas, I was glad to help him how I could, but he really is the one to credit with the final production model design.
Nice new tool. Always good
Thanks Randy, they are quite handy for drilling lots of holes on the mill.
Enjoyed...good review
Thanks Chuck, I do think having a wheel on a mill for most operations is preferable to the single handle on a BP or a 3-spoke handle like is typical for an RF-style machine. Jim is a pretty cool guy too, it was fun doing prototyping with him.
Jim must be getting quite a selection of fitments for different mills! His products seem to be first class! I like that you can always grab the wheel at a comfortable position, not just where the spokes are! That is important for the people trying to work around their arthritis in their hands!
In talking with Jim he is happy to be gathering data from quill feed hubs on various machines, trying to make the system work on as many machines as possible. It was fun working with him on this one.
Nice Everett. I love my Quill wheel!
Thanks Anthony, I have come to appreciate it for some things - as I say the three-spoke hub still has its usefulness too.
I see some other guys with those and they seem to like them . Great share Everett !
I thought it was pretty cool when Jim called and asked if I wanted in on the project. I now know why the others who have done reviews liked them, lol
Gday Everrett, good honest review and a great modification..
Thanks Matty, it is a handy accessory, for sure!
Hi Everett,
A good well balance review...
Take care
Paul,,
Thanks Paul! I tried to be as balanced as I could but have to admit to helping Jim in the development of it so have to give my notion of objectivity a reality check.
Nice! I made land up getting one of those Wrong Foo mills. Thanks for showing it. Helping someone else develop a product is cool. Don't feel bad sharing. Hope everyone is ok at home. Cheers
Thanks Yves, we're all doing well here, if not a bit tired around work and wee ones. It was fun working with Jim on this project and sounds like he has some other cool ideas for tools in the works too.
I’ve had the wheel for a while now. I also was a guinea pig for the Lagun mill. Jim is a great guy to work with and has lots of ideas for sure.
I remember when you first got yours, thought it was a good idea then and still like the idea now. And I agree, Jim is a pretty cool guy too.
Always nice to see a new video from you Everett. Hope you and the family are doing well. Gary
Thanks Gary, and the feeling is definitely mutual!
Good one Everett . I had to laugh with that other guy's $ 90 comment , the other day he said $ 20 !!! Cheers .
Thanks Max! Well, to be fair to Francisco there are a number of commercially available tools that can be made for significantly less at home depending on one's tools and abilities - your work is an excellent example of this. However, I will admit that I have to respectfully disagree with his point that this hub is quick to make. You have one yourself to see, and I made a prototype of it which took quite a bit of time. Not impossible for the home shop but does take a bit of work (including the blind hole keyway).
@@EverettsWorkshop You put things in a slightly more diplomatic way than what i would !!! Cheers .
Nice product demonstration. I hope you and your loved ones stay safe and healthy.
It is good to see your friendly face again.
Thanks Robert, we're doing ok here, just tired and busy with work and wee ones. Got some work-related stuff in editing right now so hopefully new video up soon.
I picked up an old cast iron 6 spoke wheel from the dump and put it on the other side to raise and lower the head of the machine. It's 13" in diameter with a suicide knob sure makes quick work of raising or lowering the head.
That would totally work too - same basic idea. It was fun working with Jim as he was even saying how he was surprised no one came forward before him with a commercial version of the wheel on the Bridgeport-style mills, much less the mill-drills. I've heard from a few people who have adapted wheels at home, as you know it is an excellent feature to have.
Nice, now you have a milling machine with power steering :-)
Lol, it wasn't factory, we had to go aftermarket.
Pretty neat accessory. I'd be interested in one for my Bridgeport. Thanks for sharing. BTW--Your video came up as 480p for some reason. Not sure whether that's something on my end or maybe you just use an older camera. Take care.
Thanks for watching, I found that it is a handy addition for sure. As for the video quality, I'm not sure why but sometimes RUclips winds up messing up videos on its end. I've had a few that wound up getting encoded and put live with sound desync too, sorry about that.
I love my Quill Wheel. I went through a similar collaboration with Jim to confirm hub sizes on my Precision Matthews clone knee mill. The fine folks in Taiwan shipped it with a single slot machine style handle and I hated it. Jim fixed me right up and it's a world of improvement. Now I have continuous fine fingertip control and I can grab at the spokes when I need to apply more pressure than I should!
Aren't the wheels handy? And if you've worked with Jim you know he's a cool guy too. I was originally skeptical of the Delrin hub but it seems to be quite good.
I like the concept... but what I would like to know is how the it holds up with hot chips and cutting fluids? The handle part looks like it might be directly in the machining chip path. Might not be nice if you grabbed the wheel and slide your hand across an embedded chip. Might want to consider a fully metallic version. Maybe a cast aluminum with finger grips?
I never thought about the embeddability of chips, but will keep an eye on it as it is being used. Haven't heard much from others with wheels about grabbing shrapnel in the hand from it. Not sure about the cutting fluids either yet but again no complaints heard from others who have had them longer. You make a good point, this will be part of the longer term reviewing of it.
Maybe a steering wheel spinner knob would help bridge the gap?
Thought about it, but I kind of like it as it is. It's easy to pop between the two handle styles.
@@EverettsWorkshop now you have me wondering if I still have a custom steering wheel in a box in the rafters of the shop...
Thank you for sharing. What size is your mill vise?
This vise is a 6 inch/150 mm unit. It went with the mill when I sold it to my buddy though. The new-to-me mill has a 6 inch unit as well though.
@@EverettsWorkshop Thank you
I think those are neat; trying to figure how I could have adapted one for my bricklaying trowell (OK, so much for my humor). Good to see you in a video again and looking forward to many more when time allows, Greg.
Thanks Greg, got more video needing editing time, hopefully up soon. As for making it work with your trowel, Jim's got all sorts of tool ideas, you could give him a call and develop one with him, lol!
I can see the point but you would think that, hopefully, he is selling enough to have a symmetrical spoke arrangement made for him so it looks less like a cobbled together idea and a more like professional one. Yeh its only looks and does not affect the use but it sort of grates to look at it.😢
I think the "car steering wheel" appearance is part of the concept, for better or worse
@@paulwomack5866 that's the problem, it looks like a steering wheel not a mill part, at least to my eyes.
I see what you're saying, as the steering wheel spokes may not appear "balanced" to some. Not sure of Jim's sale volume as I don't receive any kick backs from him (apart from getting a wheel out of the deal for helping him with the project).
Nice to see you still posting videos and letting us know your still alive hope your family is doing ok and first comment
Thanks Robert, we're doing ok, just super busy and tired with work and little ones!
I was wondering if he was going to make one for the round column mills. I've been trying to figure out how to make one myself. I think I'll get in touch with him.
Yes, this has been in the works for a while but now it's a go. I like it, it's been a good addition overall.
Maybe an old style ,1950's steering wheel knob.
That is a thought, I have another wheel now for the newer mill and found that I simply like the way it is set up with the wheel. It is better than the spoked hub on the mill-drill in a number of ways and worlds above the basic handle on the BP clone!
Max Grant of Swan Valley Machine Shop down in Perth just did a review on the Tangent products too. Might want to watch it too. Its was a serious review and he does point out where there might be problems but it was a good review.
Thanks Clyde, I did see his video as well - he did a good job on his as he has both a bench mill and a Bridgeport and was able to show the wheel advantages on both.
Everett. Could you make an adaptor to fit between the wheel and the 3 spoke lever so you can have both on the mill together and then you have the choice which one is best to use for the task at hand. I dont have a mill so not sure if that is possiable. Stay safe and regards from Australia. Ps. I enjoy watching your vids.
Honestly I'm not sure you could do that easily, given the quill drive hub style. Besides, they switch out very easily. Interesting thought though!
I would get one of them wheels but I don't think it will fit any of my lathes. I have 4 lathes but do not have a mill.... I been looking for one but haven't found one that I want yet. I guess if I stopped buying lathes I might find a mill... Thanks for the video and review Everett!!!
Well, a steering wheel on the lathe carriage would be a tad large, yes! If you come into possession of a mill though, they are very handy.
I use a ratchet on the draw bar to do my taping &:-)
That is an excellent idea - never thought of that one!
NIce! I should've made a video of how I did my own.
I know it's not for everyone, but the wheel idea is handy whether it is purchased or made at home. I've seen the caliber of work you do, your wheel would be well-made!
You are passing on a bit of useful information, good on ya...
Thanks Glenn, some may find it useful, some won't be interested and that's fine. It was fun working with Jim.
Add a spinner knob or as I've heard them called a speed handle
We call them suicide knobs.
I had thought about it but find I like it as it is - being as quick as they are to change allows me to pop the spoked handle on if it's necessary.
Just add a steering wheel spinner knob and I think it will be perfect.
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I had thought about it but the wheel works for me as it is set up - I'm sure others will be adding knobs though.
It's a car steering wheel with a modified hub or am I missing something? Stay safe everyone. 🇬🇧 🏴 😂
It is a hot rod steering wheel with a custom hub made for it. Yes, the spokes are not equally spaced but it still works well.
Again the over priced steering wheel, Gocart wheel and a hub, aren’t any of you machinists able to drill three holes and a bore? It’s ninety bucks, ten minutes effort.
Hi Francisco, for what it's worth the round column and mini mills use a different quill drive handle hub from bigger knee type Bridgeport style machines. It involves special tapers, keyways cut into a blind hole, and a couple critical dimensions. A home machinist with decent gear could make one, but cost would depend on where you live and honestly to make this hub would take a few hours. Trust me, I made the prototype, lol.