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HOLY SHIT. This is the first time I've seen someone explain Dimentio's backstory so eloquently-worded!! And you made it so easy to understand!! Oh my god you are amazing. I would have been satisfied with a video of that alone.
@a name you can read Bruh you clearly had enough time to go on a random ass youtube comment, look for an article, and type an entire paragraph. You have enough time to link towards more evidence.
@a name you can read Lol I said type an entire paragraph as in your comments, not the article. Any defensiveness I have is because you're making an extraordinary claim and absolutely refusing to provide any more evidence because "you don't have enough time". Why do you even bother telling people this information if you don't have enough time to prove it? How am I supposed to know this man is one of the people in the article? Do I have to know somebody to not want them to be slandered?
It really is sad to see how little appreciated Dimentio as a whole is. No one seems to remember him, despite him probably being the most powerful character in the whole Mario universe, as well as across several other universes not including Mario.
@@Niccolò765 Yes but that doesn't mean Mario is as powerful as Dimentio. He had the help of very specific powerful items to do it, and they were mainly built for that one purpose. If Mario tried using the Pure Hearts to be powerful outside of their intended purpose of being used to defeat the user of the Chaos Heart, it would very likely do nothing.
Damn bro... Super Paper Mario was a game I played when I was really little and I learned a LOT watching this. Like seriously, I didn't even know that much about the lore!
The lore is hidden away in optional dialogue boxes of side characters. You need to talk to both flipside and flopside people for hours to get these kind of details and even then they’re presented as speculative at best.
I knew dimentio would win he is afterall one of my favorite Mario villains and problably the most strongest one in the paper universe Edit:WOW this is my most liked comment thanks
I gotta respect all the research you put in and even though it’s very similar to Death Battle, you make A LOT of sense (better than the Ben 10 vs Green Lantern to be sure). The one problem is that my brain died while you were explaining dimensions and whatnot
realdeathbattleimp.blogspot.com/2019/04/hal-jordan-is-completely-broken.html?m=1 www.deviantart.com/spider-pidge/journal/Ben-Tennyson-VS-Hal-Jordan-A-Redundant-Analysis-813386057 Ben 10 vs Green Lantern is a very shitty example of a poorly researched Death Battle considering how hard Hal stomps. If you really want a poorly researched Death Battle, you're better off sticking to season 1
The worst Death Battle is Thanos vs Darkseid. They didn’t take into account that the Reality Gem can open/forbid portals to and from its home universe, making Boom Tubes inoperable. Even if Darkseid could eventually break in, it would buy Thanos enough time to make as many 8th Note Machines as he could possibly need. If Darkseid has the Soulfire he stomps, but without it there’s no chance.
@@worldssmallestdestron7819 Yes, but Jevil's still absurdly powerful. If his bossfight and the dialogue therein are to be believed, then he's invulnerable.
Ok, as someone who loves gravity falls and isn't a big fan of paper mario. While I don't quite like the outcome, I can't argue with it. Dimentio wins. No doubt.
I'm a fan of both, but I do prefer Dimentio as he actually has a purpose instead of "hey im bored, so I wanna destroy universes". Not saying that Bill is a bad character, just saying Dimentio has a better reason for being an antagonist.
Ryan Arecco That is if Dimentio doesn’t erase his existence or just kills him before he invoke the power, and if he doesn’t then he’ll have figured it out by the second time.
Wow, this video is very nicely written and well-thought! I love both Dimentio and Bill as characters, and while I could have seen this battle ending in a stalemate, I’m very pleased with the final results. It truly made me appreciate Dimentio even more. You deserve a like and a sub. I hope you will continue with this series, it’s really amazing!
There is one little thing about Dimentio that could shorten this video a lot, and you even mentioned it yourself. NOTHING can stop the holder of the Chaos Heart exept the four heroes with the pure hearts. Even if Cipher can manipulate the heroes into serving him, Dimentio can just put one of them into a separate dimention and now they are all helpless again.
@@Abraxas1212 that was more a comment about the fact that Bill couldn't fully utilize the chaos heart as dimentio can, since dimentio has a perfect host body for it, it's still technically only dimentio
I kinda forgot how Dimentio, the "court" magician, is actually a super villain master mind time controlling, life deleting, chaotic masterpiece, multidimensional, snap-to-poof, psychotic "court" magician who can see into the future.
Your Dimentio respect thread was wonderful, everything explained in a perfect grade. Except for the part that you scaled Paper Mario and co. to him, that's innacurate, the only character that can be scaled to Dimentio is Count Bleck with the Chaos Heart, but every other enemy that Mario and co. beated are nowhere near multiversal level, not even universal. Dimentio was always playing with the heroes, he was never harmed by them, he could have killed or erased Mario with extremely ease in any encounter, but of course he needed him and the rest of the heroes to fulfill his plan, even in his *ultimate show* as Super Dimentio he was playing and humillating the heroes, it was until the Pure Hearts weakened him and empowered the heroes that we could say they were "scaled" to him.
That logic falls off the rails when you realize Paper Mario scales to Mario and Luigi, who took on a being similar in power (actually he's far superior but I'm not gonna wank here) to Dimentio: Dreamy Bowser, run by a stone that's possibly infinite dimensional and is definitely at least 12 D. Even so, YES, Mario and crew can scale to Dimentio. His defeat in Dimension D proves as such.
Please make more of this. My mind was shattered and I was impressed with the tremendous amount of research or really just sheer knowledge you had and used when comparing the characters. It was very interesting and I'd really love to see more of this!
...Geez Dimentio is so much stronger than most give him credit for. Or at least that I give him but I never played super paper mario. Kinda scary to think about this though. I watched Gravity falls and Bill was very terrifying (mostly on paper). Look at all he does! But now there's a 2D jester who surpasses him about tenfold! I wouldn't want to meet either in irl (okay thats not true it would be cool as hell) but Dimentio who be worse to meet. Especially if he's in a bad/fighting mood.
I feel like Bill would be the worse one to meet. Bill would actively torment you on sight, Dimentio would probably just ignore you. Even if he's in a mood for a fight he likely wouldn't torment you as much as Bill would.
@@TheAlmightyWizardToadWell, not quite. Bill Cipher would definitely torture you on sight and whatnot, but so would Dimentio. See, it all depends on the circumstances in which you meet Dimentio, for example: If you're in a public area, you could just see Dimentio entertaining the masses and walk right past him. If you insult him or do something he doesn't like, he'll just teleport you and himself into his personal pocket dimension where he can do whatever he wants to you. Torture, psychological warfare, turning you into his personal puppet, you name it. But if the Ultimate Show is set in motion, Super Dimentio will kill you ON SIGHT. Afterall, he has a goal and he intends to fullfill it. So, yeah. Dimentio's not more chill, he's an actor, a trickster wearing a theatre mask to decieve you with his charismatic personality and lure you into a false sense of security. Dimentio just hides his sadistic nature and insanity behind that mask and a polite crimson smile, he's akin to a volcano about to erupt at any given second.
Wow, wish I had found this about a year sooner. Impressive, really. You clearly did a lot of research on this, nothing was left unconsidered. You've got one more subscription from me.
Most people currently think of pure hearts Mario and super dimentio as only multiversal, but this makes sense as long as string theory soup is enough to prove the existence of string theory in the Mario verse, definitely do more of these
This is the most brilliant thing I’ve ever seen. I am very impressed and was never bored for a second. To think I was just looking for a simple paper Mario video
This was so impressive to watch, i couldnt even see this happening. This is so cool to see hours apon days of hours of research put into this, this should be way more popular
YEAH I LOVE THIS! I THOUGHT BILL WOULD WIN BUT AFTER WATCHING THIS.... I COMPLETELY CHANGED MY MIND! THIS WAS THE BEST VS VIDEO THAT I HAVE SEEN! YOU JUST EARNED A SUBSCRIBER!
Thanks mate it means a lot to us over here and we have a lot more shit like this coming your way. oh and if you didn't know the next battle then you can check out to 2 new vids but thank you for your love man I can't tell you how much it means
Technically the real winner are the Pure Hearts, without them Mario could do absolutely nothing to Super Dimentio, heck, he could even harm base Dimentio.
As soon as you finished the Dimentio review, the answer was obvious. Of course Dimentio would win. What good is control over the multiverse when you have the power to erase everything?
Dimentio: Gets chaos heart within the BEGINNING of the game (well it exists then snatches later) Bill Cypher: Weirdmageddons at the end Also Chaos Heart: Makes user invincible unless if the pure hearts counter it And is bill pure? *yeah no*
I love your analysis on Bill Cipher vs Dimentio! You researching dad is very accurate in the conclusion is sound I would love to see your analysis with two similar opponents as well: Alice Liddell (American Magee & Madness Returns) vs Chara Dreemurr (Undertale)
Very nice start! This show has a very bright future, I can already tell. I have to sadly agree but I do agree with all your points here. I'm excited to see this show in the future.
I loved this, the only problem i had was that sometimes information and text would appear and disappear too quickly for me to read and sometimes you would start talking too fast and I was unable to keep up. Other than that this was an amazing and well thought out video!
This is probably my 3rd or 4th time listening to this as background noise and every time I end up dropping what im doing because im paying attention to the video
That’s true. The source of Bill’s knowledge, I think, is just his immortality. He’s had quite literally all the time in the world to study it. But he can’t know things like the future or things he can’t study from the people in the world. But Dimentio is able to predict and foresee knowledge that may not even exist at the time of him using his foresight. Whatever Bill is able to learn by waiting for it to come around, Dimentio has already learnt what it is thousands of years prior
Bill is very limited even in his max form If a force field wrapped around a town was able to contain ALL his power(yes I seen the lore about it but it's not like it was placed by God himself) Super dimentio could do the same
We perform. Strike back at the norm of running right and jumping. From the void the circus horns will sing a song of nothing. Onward we go. Onward Dimentio. Presto!
Come one, come all! The moment is at hand! Sink the ship and strike up the band! We're going down. Come one, come all you've got to be quick I strike, like ants at a picnic! And you're breaking down!
(My Own Ultimate show) We perform erase the norm! As we sing a song of nothing! Onward we go! Onward Dimentio! (People on Dimentios side) *PRESTO!* (Dimentio And followers who are wizards)
@@diavolokingcrimson1887 actually, the lyrics of the ultimate show were like this: Up and down on this merry go round Destination you'll never known Now we find is the end of the line Here we go its the ultimate show! Search the rest on youtube, the song is from Man On The Internet
Well my friend if the channels of a 2-Step stand itself getting good views and subscribers will be able to keep making my readers episodes bigger and better in terms of visuals and everything
Graced Gnome yeah my man. This was a good episode to start up as (did the fight myself and ite so... so wrong so I'm happy someone did it right lol) but I hope to see next time. Bayonetta vs Kratos or is it Asura vs Kratos
Graced Gnome oh damn nice! :) now if you go to the author statements (I dont think should be used) kratos eins. But if not then asura should win. I'm hyper now
well to be honest I am not the script writer for RD so I don't know who is going to win I i'm just the channel owner and video maker of all the other shows on this channel.
I mean if you think about it, if dimentio was gonna destroy EVERYTHING. That means that it would destroy infinite multiverses BECAUSE the mario universe connects to the sonic universe (sonic has made cameos and some games and the Olympic Games) and the sonic universe is connected to Archie multiverse, which has infinite multiverses.
I came here looking to fault the logic of a mario fanboy screeching incoherently about Dimentio being unbeatable... What I got was pretty concrete evidence of Dimentio's power both before and after absorbing the Chaos Heart and.. yeah no... Bill has no consistent way of beating Dimentio, if, hypothetically speaking, a series of, let's say one thousand, different dimension versions of Dimentio and Bill Cipher, all identical in abilities to the ones discussed in this video, all fought simultaneously, more Dimentios would win than Bills
“...this is where we get to Dimentio’s real hax.” I’m sorry, inducing the concept of death in an otherwise immortal being ISNT HAX ENOUGH? What the hell did I just say?!
out of curiosity are you guys still making or planning to continue rivalry duels? since the research and attention to detail was done very well and as a guy who knows his Mario stuff even, I'm impressed with the info you laid out for dimentio.
Dimentio's entire story being relevant to one game and nowhere outside it is such a shame. This is a character that could be a constant presence in the lore. To compare with Bill, we can equate one episode of Gravity Falls to one Mario adventure. Bill is present throughout even if he doesn't appear in every episode. He's even in the title sequence and his presence is felt indirectly through details all over the series. If Nintendo cared about the lore added in the Mario RPGs, Dimentio could be a similar case. A looming greater threat who views our 3-dimensional reality as a cute game, that shows up from time to time to fuck with people like Bill does in the episodes prior to Weirdmageddon. But no, Dimentio gets introduced and killed off in the same game and while other great villains from the RPGs, such as Fawful, have managed to recur to an extent, they still never got to shine outside the RPGs and are usually either killed off or ignored outside the RPGs. The most we get for Mario villains that stay relevant are Bowser and... his minions... (not even all of them too, where the FUCK did Kammy go) There's also Wario I guess but nowadays he's more of an anti-hero. I actually like Bowser better in that kind of role too, the villains like Dimentio were always the ones I liked the most. I only recently watched Gravity Falls for the first time and Bill is such a fun character and he definitely reminds me of Dimentio in more ways than one. I think if Dimentio were to ever appear in a cartoon, he'd be written similarly to how Bill is. And I'd be all over that. I like how Bill isn't killed off for good either. He's seemingly "erased" but Stan regained his memories soon after so who's to say Bill can't be included in that? Bill could still be hiding in Stan's mind, watching the outside world through Stan's eyes and waiting for the perfect time to strike back. Dimentio didn't get that possibility. He could have, but they'd have put some details in that entertain the thought. We see Bleck and Tippi in their true form, happy in paradise but nothing is ever done to suggest Dimentio could have survived. It would be cool for an encore story with Dimentio but Nintendo doesn't even want to acknowledge ANY character from SPM or earlier exists anymore, even in the Paper Mario series. Sorry kinda got ranty, I just get emotional when I think about how amazing SPM's characters and plot are, along with most of the other 2000s RPGs, and how Nintendo's treatment is literally polar opposite, as if they were disgraces to the Mario brand (which Nintendo likes to arbitrarily keep knee-deep and sterile) So to me, Bill scratches the Dimentio-shaped itch i guess. It would be cool to see them team up. Also, Alex Hirsch is now one of my top picks for a Dimentio voice if he ever was in a voice acted production. Right next to Man on the Internet's voice for him, who is also named Alex (Beckham). Side note regarding Bill's voice, I actually had watched The Owl House before watching Gravity Falls, and King has basically Bill's voice but without the effects. It's insane how contrasting their characters are and how different the energy is they emit just from the presence of that echo effect. King is sympathetic and lovable, Bill is a demonic psychopath (but still lovable).
Who Would Win: Cosmic jester wielding the power of a dark nexus of pure cursed hatred while possessing the body of said hatred's ideal host Bowser ground pound
18:55 I know of this capability, its in a skyrim mod I have: I can literally erase doors for up to a full 2 minutes so you can stealthkill your enemies, and also stop them from fleeing and calling up backup which would raise your bounty, it can be dual cast so you erase a door for up to 4 minutes if need be.
This was from a while ago, but if I'm being honest, it probably depends on the scenario, as characters in that dark world can't be killed outright while in that dark world, whereas outside of it Jevil and all the others are ordinary playing cards among other junk. If any character can figure out how to destroy the dark fountain supporting Jevil, he's as good as dead. However, if somehow were talking about any other scenario where Jevil somehow is outside of a dark world and doesn't have to rely on a dark fountain to support him, he cannot die. People talk about world-breaking durability, but Jevil can take any size hacked-in hit and appear seemingly fine
someone pls just take reigns of this wonderful series. This series is fantastic and we can't just have it ruined and died because of what the creators did. This should be taken upon someone else to continue it. nobody has too, but i bet that anyone, even myself if i am up to it, can take the torch of this series and continue it so that this idea of "facts over laughs" within the vs community dose not die a quick death and still live on with the people who truly care about it. not expecting much on the impact of this statement or if it would even be taken seriously, but i do hope that someone or even myself can have this series live on and not be forgotten.
neverminded I take everything back I hope he is still rotting in prison Edit: still hoping for the rotting part, but also want to un-take about someone else doing the series justice that these two murderers ruined.
sorry, but Dorito man NEVER stood a chance against the Deity of Calamity. also, Bill does not know all. Stanford says: "oh it's just a simple equation" when talking about how to get out of gravity falls' 'weird zone'. Bill does not know the equation
pixl queen: Im a all powerful being. Bill Chiper: No I am. Dimentio: Amatures. Both: What was that, Punk? Super Dimentio: *(Ultimate show intensifies)* *A* *M* *A* *T* *U* *R* *E* *S* *.* (snaps them out of existence.)
Hello to everyone reading this if you are interested in watching a show between shows you can watch Founders plays metal plays and just the regular gnome videos if you can spread the word of the channel to get the truth noun about who would win in a one-on-one fight to the death it would be greatly appreciated and those who support us on patreon will be in the credits of every rivalry divorce if not every video in general thank you and I'll see all of you in the next video
Graced Gnome Wait, are you saying Nintendo, a KIDS friendly gaming company, made a being powerful enough to kill virtually ANYTHING in existence?
Also do Mario vs bill Since Mario can beat dementio
You pronounced Dimentio's name wrong. It's pronounced Dimentio (dimen-shee-oh).
@@wolfhurricane897 it's not
@@wolfhurricane897 he pronounced it right
NOOOO, YOU CANT JUST DESTROY AN ALL-POWERFUL 12TH DIMENSIONAL BEING BY JUMPING ON IT’S HEAD
Mario: yahoo
bro, i think i love u
(no homo btw)
@Boundless64 ok
But is he worng
Mario: insert blj noises
Mario 's shoe is underrated
@@dadawgdoin7467 mario's shoe is even more indestructible and stronger than captain america's
HOLY SHIT. This is the first time I've seen someone explain Dimentio's backstory so eloquently-worded!! And you made it so easy to understand!! Oh my god you are amazing. I would have been satisfied with a video of that alone.
@a name you can read You can attach any news article and claim it's an anonymous person online. You sound like you have an agenda against this person.
@a name you can read Bruh you clearly had enough time to go on a random ass youtube comment, look for an article, and type an entire paragraph. You have enough time to link towards more evidence.
@a name you can read Lol I said type an entire paragraph as in your comments, not the article. Any defensiveness I have is because you're making an extraordinary claim and absolutely refusing to provide any more evidence because "you don't have enough time". Why do you even bother telling people this information if you don't have enough time to prove it? How am I supposed to know this man is one of the people in the article? Do I have to know somebody to not want them to be slandered?
@@sansaraee I have some prove
@@sansaraee Upon his Twitter account, he had taken pictures of himself and well........he looks a bit too much like the convict of the left
dude even if your research is incorrect or said by anyone
you did such a great job that you have my sub
Thank you very much. :D
Same
@Bryan Mejia prove it lmao Xd
@@mannycampos6885 im not trying to spite you im just wondering where ypu got this?
@Bryan Mejia btw it's chiper
Dimentio would have won anyway, for the simple reason that he has a better theme song.
His theme song was so good that Man On The Internet (the creator of Undertale the Musical) gave him TWO songs!
@@firefi1960 yeee that's what I was referring to lol
Disagree but it's good too
@@firefi1960 3*
@@Berkut_FE i mean if you count the Ultimate world spun then yes
It really is sad to see how little appreciated Dimentio as a whole is. No one seems to remember him, despite him probably being the most powerful character in the whole Mario universe, as well as across several other universes not including Mario.
glad to see even bill respects dimentio
Actually, including Mario. Mario and the gang defeated Super Dimentio only because they had the pure hearts.
@@Niccolò765 Yes but that doesn't mean Mario is as powerful as Dimentio. He had the help of very specific powerful items to do it, and they were mainly built for that one purpose. If Mario tried using the Pure Hearts to be powerful outside of their intended purpose of being used to defeat the user of the Chaos Heart, it would very likely do nothing.
Weird for Bill himself to be saying that.
Can you explain because I don't get the Dimentio part
Bill: minding his own business
Bill 10 seconds later: why do I hear the ultimate show
UP AND DOWN ON THID MERRY GO ROUND! DESTINATIONS YOU'LL NEVER KNOW! NOW WE FIND IT IS THE END OF THE LINE! HERE WE GO IT IS THE ULTIMATE SHOW!
@@logandamudkip4212 oh no
Logandamudkip421 no...jus-just no...you completely ruined my day now
@@Cerenmorningstar AND FROM THE VOID THE CIRCUS HORNS PROCLAIM THE POWER RUSHING
@@andreymenumerov8583 ONWARD WE GO, TO THE ULTIMATE SHOW!
the show goes on, for the weak and strong AND A PERFECT WORLD IS WITHIN MY GRASP!
I love the fact that Dimentio is probably the strongest character in fiction, but Mario still manages to beat him
No
The Gentle Pull is The most powerfull
me too
Yup only because of the literal power of fredshio
If That is the case then why was he so easy
@@landontaylor1290 because it's a game and you tenicly have to win
Bill Cipher: Hah. I can summon a whole world into this.
Dimentio: Ah ha ha ha ha! (Sips Chaos Heart juice) So cute.
@Daniel Ganci very sure in fact
@Boundless64 I DISALLOW IT.
@spoon Haha funny *multiversal* erasure go brrrr
Damn bro... Super Paper Mario was a game I played when I was really little and I learned a LOT watching this. Like seriously, I didn't even know that much about the lore!
Just my thoughts. Hot damn, I knew NOTHING about the true lore!
The lore is hidden away in optional dialogue boxes of side characters. You need to talk to both flipside and flopside people for hours to get these kind of details and even then they’re presented as speculative at best.
I knew dimentio would win he is afterall one of my favorite Mario villains and problably the most strongest one in the paper universe
Edit:WOW this is my most liked comment thanks
Gamemaster PZM he needs to comeback in a future paper Mario game
He's the strongest Mario character without a doubt, even in base form.
But have you factored in that 100% ultra instinct shaggy would win
Oh spoilers))))))))))))
Wait, you're telling me you got 20 likes and you put in an edit, what is wrong with RUclips
I gotta respect all the research you put in and even though it’s very similar to Death Battle, you make A LOT of sense (better than the Ben 10 vs Green Lantern to be sure). The one problem is that my brain died while you were explaining dimensions and whatnot
realdeathbattleimp.blogspot.com/2019/04/hal-jordan-is-completely-broken.html?m=1
www.deviantart.com/spider-pidge/journal/Ben-Tennyson-VS-Hal-Jordan-A-Redundant-Analysis-813386057
Ben 10 vs Green Lantern is a very shitty example of a poorly researched Death Battle considering how hard Hal stomps. If you really want a poorly researched Death Battle, you're better off sticking to season 1
The worst Death Battle is Thanos vs Darkseid. They didn’t take into account that the Reality Gem can open/forbid portals to and from its home universe, making Boom Tubes inoperable. Even if Darkseid could eventually break in, it would buy Thanos enough time to make as many 8th Note Machines as he could possibly need. If Darkseid has the Soulfire he stomps, but without it there’s no chance.
@@alexbaribeault Actually I think they composited Hal.
my brain wrinkled a bit while he was explaining everything.
Same I don't get it
I’ve always loved Dimentio but the fact that bill, a being able to destroy everything, lost to a HECCING JESTER is utterly amazing
The game jesters they are to strong we cant stop them
Jevil: HOLD MY CHAOS
@@This_Guy_Exists jevil is weaker.
@@worldssmallestdestron7819 Yes, but Jevil's still absurdly powerful. If his bossfight and the dialogue therein are to be believed, then he's invulnerable.
@spoon Jevil is not even close. He can summon lasers and scythes and whatever. He’s not a multidimensional apocalyptic force of quantum physics.
And here i thought Dimentio was alread powerful enough...
Ok, as someone who loves gravity falls and isn't a big fan of paper mario. While I don't quite like the outcome, I can't argue with it. Dimentio wins. No doubt.
Killager I like dimentio
Can relate. I don't even care about Dimentio. I'm just glad Bill can put up a fight against someone THAT damn powerful.
I'm a fan of both, but I do prefer Dimentio as he actually has a purpose instead of "hey im bored, so I wanna destroy universes". Not saying that Bill is a bad character, just saying Dimentio has a better reason for being an antagonist.
Ryan Arecco
That is if Dimentio doesn’t erase his existence or just kills him before he invoke the power, and if he doesn’t then he’ll have figured it out by the second time.
Bill is fav villian and bottom is I can't refute the logic unfortunately this accurate bill loses
Wow, this video is very nicely written and well-thought! I love both Dimentio and Bill as characters, and while I could have seen this battle ending in a stalemate, I’m very pleased with the final results. It truly made me appreciate Dimentio even more.
You deserve a like and a sub. I hope you will continue with this series, it’s really amazing!
There is one little thing about Dimentio that could shorten this video a lot, and you even mentioned it yourself.
NOTHING can stop the holder of the Chaos Heart exept the four heroes with the pure hearts. Even if Cipher can manipulate the heroes into serving him, Dimentio can just put one of them into a separate dimention and now they are all helpless again.
Bill could just manipulate time and space, and boom, he has the chaos heart.
@@Abraxas1212 and dimentio could just take it right back, not to mention that Bill doesn't have the perfect host luigi on his side
@@megasnowey7177 if it's a 1v1, no outside help, bill takes this battle.
@@Abraxas1212 that was more a comment about the fact that Bill couldn't fully utilize the chaos heart as dimentio can, since dimentio has a perfect host body for it, it's still technically only dimentio
@@megasnowey7177 he doesn't need to utilize it, he can just take it and erase it from reality, thus making Dimentio much, much weaker and vulnerable.
I have so much more respect for Dimentio now...
i would like, but 69...
Just came across this series. I have to say this was Extremely Impressive. I definitely agree with the outcome.
The editing was pretty dang great.
Thanks for the compliment me it means a lot to us if you can subscribe and watch a Filler episodes
Graced Gnome
Already did hit the sub and checking out other ones
I kinda forgot how Dimentio, the "court" magician, is actually a super villain master mind time controlling, life deleting, chaotic masterpiece, multidimensional, snap-to-poof, psychotic "court" magician who can see into the future.
This really deserves more views,It's really well done
I watched this video go from 10K views to 20K views in a week or two, looks like it's getting more views
Almost at 100K now. If he makes more videos like this, imma subscribe for sure.
I Can Hear Dimentio Laughing At Bill Right Now
Me to
Lol
They'd be laughing at eachother
Bill:ur laugh is ugly ever heard mine?
Marx And Jevil:Did i miss the fun?
I thought i would end up being bored at some moment.
*I DIDN'T.*
Thanos: Snaps 1 person out of existence
Dimentio: Snaps universes out of existence
who's better, it's so obvious
Multiverses*
clearly Dimentio
Ahahahaha you Fools
_snaps_
...thanos snaps half of all inteligent beings but himself...dimentio is still stronger
@@dimenzio3612 Ha I came after you *destroys Dimenzio*
Your Dimentio respect thread was wonderful, everything explained in a perfect grade.
Except for the part that you scaled Paper Mario and co. to him, that's innacurate, the only character that can be scaled to Dimentio is Count Bleck with the Chaos Heart, but every other enemy that Mario and co. beated are nowhere near multiversal level, not even universal.
Dimentio was always playing with the heroes, he was never harmed by them, he could have killed or erased Mario with extremely ease in any encounter, but of course he needed him and the rest of the heroes to fulfill his plan, even in his *ultimate show* as Super Dimentio he was playing and humillating the heroes, it was until the Pure Hearts weakened him and empowered the heroes that we could say they were "scaled" to him.
That logic falls off the rails when you realize Paper Mario scales to Mario and Luigi, who took on a being similar in power (actually he's far superior but I'm not gonna wank here) to Dimentio: Dreamy Bowser, run by a stone that's possibly infinite dimensional and is definitely at least 12 D. Even so, YES, Mario and crew can scale to Dimentio. His defeat in Dimension D proves as such.
Shadow Queen’s definitely Universal. I wouldn’t put her higher than that, however.
@@Zoroarkarceus123 Different Mario. Mario and Luigi paper jam proves that Mario and paper Mario and co are different from one another.
@@thunderknight4149 Yes. It also proves that they scale to each other, hence my response.
The world of paper mario are books of the M&L world. So paper Mario is different from the real world Mario's
Dimentio: "I won't hurt you, unless you cheat. You can't win me, I can't be beat!"
Cabinet Man?
If you don't want to watch the whole video...
Dimentio wins
Dimentio always wins. Mark my words.
@@lj5121 except for one time
@@chronred8190 O O F
NO NO NO BILL IS THE WINNER 100%!!!!
@@El_Bella_111 watch the vid...
Idk if its a joke or not soooooooooo
Please make more of this. My mind was shattered and I was impressed with the tremendous amount of research or really just sheer knowledge you had and used when comparing the characters. It was very interesting and I'd really love to see more of this!
when da thanos is sus
HOTU thanos : what did you said fodder
@@bluerocket5127 pffttt Mimi: *laughing while watching and eating popcorn*
@@Soultail how is mimi
@@bluerocket5127 she's good taking care of her rubies and being a little nuance but good nonetheless
@@Soultail Did Mimi find out I found the safe?
...Geez Dimentio is so much stronger than most give him credit for. Or at least that I give him but I never played super paper mario.
Kinda scary to think about this though. I watched Gravity falls and Bill was very terrifying (mostly on paper). Look at all he does! But now there's a 2D jester who surpasses him about tenfold!
I wouldn't want to meet either in irl (okay thats not true it would be cool as hell) but Dimentio who be worse to meet. Especially if he's in a bad/fighting mood.
I feel like Bill would be the worse one to meet.
Bill would actively torment you on sight, Dimentio would probably just ignore you.
Even if he's in a mood for a fight he likely wouldn't torment you as much as Bill would.
Dimentio seems more chill
@@thecollector6392 he’s the quiet kid in school just casually Ignoring you
@@TheAlmightyWizardToadWell, not quite. Bill Cipher would definitely torture you on sight and whatnot, but so would Dimentio. See, it all depends on the circumstances in which you meet Dimentio, for example: If you're in a public area, you could just see Dimentio entertaining the masses and walk right past him. If you insult him or do something he doesn't like, he'll just teleport you and himself into his personal pocket dimension where he can do whatever he wants to you. Torture, psychological warfare, turning you into his personal puppet, you name it. But if the Ultimate Show is set in motion, Super Dimentio will kill you ON SIGHT. Afterall, he has a goal and he intends to fullfill it. So, yeah. Dimentio's not more chill, he's an actor, a trickster wearing a theatre mask to decieve you with his charismatic personality and lure you into a false sense of security. Dimentio just hides his sadistic nature and insanity behind that mask and a polite crimson smile, he's akin to a volcano about to erupt at any given second.
Wow, wish I had found this about a year sooner. Impressive, really. You clearly did a lot of research on this, nothing was left unconsidered. You've got one more subscription from me.
This does justice to animation rewind and matpat, awesome video
is better than*
The fact that bill is so powerful, yet he's only technically a 2nd dimensional being is terrifying.
He's not. He destroyed the 2nd dimensions and escaped to a higher reality
@ScalingMythos He also referred to it as "My world", implying he's FROM the second dimension
he is 11 dimensional because he has to be if he's HCM level
Dimentio is also 2 dimensional- bros a piece of paper- even if he can flip to 3rd dimension-
@@K_iiley That's fair, but what I'm saying is that Bill is insanely powerful by nature, despite being 2nd dimensional
Most people currently think of pure hearts Mario and super dimentio as only multiversal, but this makes sense as long as string theory soup is enough to prove the existence of string theory in the Mario verse, definitely do more of these
Finally somebody that actually understands me!
U just earned a subscriber!
This is the most brilliant thing I’ve ever seen. I am very impressed and was never bored for a second. To think I was just looking for a simple paper Mario video
This was so impressive to watch, i couldnt even see this happening. This is so cool to see hours apon days of hours of research put into this, this should be way more popular
YEAH I LOVE THIS! I THOUGHT BILL WOULD WIN BUT AFTER WATCHING THIS.... I COMPLETELY CHANGED MY MIND! THIS WAS THE BEST VS VIDEO THAT I HAVE SEEN! YOU JUST EARNED A SUBSCRIBER!
Thanks mate it means a lot to us over here and we have a lot more shit like this coming your way. oh and if you didn't know the next battle then you can check out to 2 new vids but thank you for your love man I can't tell you how much it means
I knew dementio would win If I was in the game I'd join him to not die
I want the chaos heart to be real so I can destroy everything
@@gracedgnome3824 but bill cipher statue
I want cartoon fight club to react to this xD
Yes but the REAL winner is Mario.
Bill < Dimentio < Mario.
Paper Mario*
@Xpgamer Jr read my comment again please
*Paper Mario, Peach, and Bowser
Technically it was Tippi/Timpani and Count Bleck/Blumiere who finished him off... with a wedding.
Technically the real winner are the Pure Hearts, without them Mario could do absolutely nothing to Super Dimentio, heck, he could even harm base Dimentio.
As soon as you finished the Dimentio review, the answer was obvious. Of course Dimentio would win. What good is control over the multiverse when you have the power to erase everything?
Dimentio: Gets chaos heart within the BEGINNING of the game (well it exists then snatches later)
Bill Cypher: Weirdmageddons at the end
Also Chaos Heart: Makes user invincible unless if the pure hearts counter it
And is bill pure?
*yeah no*
I mean bill said he was a being of pure energy with no weakness in sock opera but it could’ve just been cuz he wasn’t physical yet
Remember kids, 3D < 2D
IM A BEING OF PURE EVIL, SO WHAT ABOUT THAT, HUH?
@@zuno6946 By “pure” pretty sure it means like pure of heart instead of literally being pure
@@couldntthinkofaname360 this was a year ago i figured that out already
I love your analysis on Bill Cipher vs Dimentio! You researching dad is very accurate in the conclusion is sound I would love to see your analysis with two similar opponents as well: Alice Liddell (American Magee & Madness Returns) vs Chara Dreemurr (Undertale)
Dimentio VS. Beerus. We need it.
Also the pre-analysis for Dimentio. Godamn, this dude did his research. He’s dedicated to this.
I am way to late. But dimenito solos all of DB
Wtf😂😂😂 beerus will be solod in 0.0001 nanosecond
@@insertname340 true dimentio solos all of DB
Poor beerus
Beerus has the advantage in hand to hand
But that doesn't matter when dimentio could just snap him away
*me watches the whole definition of bill and dieminto* (0_o) WAT
Very nice start! This show has a very bright future, I can already tell. I have to sadly agree but I do agree with all your points here. I'm excited to see this show in the future.
ZDogg S thanks man if you want to see more of us why Rita was in the process of being made you can check out all the other shows we do on this channel
I definitely will bro!
Thanks man it means a lot
Anytime
Also Kratos is screwed next time
Well if you want you can text the maker of RD and talk to him about it. he might not reply but I know him and the RD team will read it.
That was amazing!
Thanks! :D
Thats pretty good
I like the Analysis
Emem Blaster thanks mate
I'm not fammilar with the Paper Mario spinoffs, but Man, Dementio has some cosmic-horror level of archane powers!
Finally someone who understands Dimentio's true power, you just earned a sub! very excited for the future of your channel:)
If Dementio was real what would you
9:44 came to watch bill vs dimentio and now im learning about string theory
I loved this, the only problem i had was that sometimes information and text would appear and disappear too quickly for me to read and sometimes you would start talking too fast and I was unable to keep up. Other than that this was an amazing and well thought out video!
This is probably my 3rd or 4th time listening to this as background noise and every time I end up dropping what im doing because im paying attention to the video
I'm back again
Cartoon fight club clearly didn't do research on dimentio lol. I respect you so much.
Also, Bill is not infinity smart. He needed a simple equation from Stan, and didn’t know it.
He also didn’t know the combination to a safe.
That’s true. The source of Bill’s knowledge, I think, is just his immortality. He’s had quite literally all the time in the world to study it. But he can’t know things like the future or things he can’t study from the people in the world. But Dimentio is able to predict and foresee knowledge that may not even exist at the time of him using his foresight. Whatever Bill is able to learn by waiting for it to come around, Dimentio has already learnt what it is thousands of years prior
Bill is very limited even in his max form
If a force field wrapped around a town was able to contain ALL his power(yes I seen the lore about it but it's not like it was placed by God himself)
Super dimentio could do the same
This is probably the most in depth analysis of these characters I've ever seen in my life.
We perform. Strike back at the norm of running right and jumping.
From the void the circus horns will sing a song of nothing.
Onward we go. Onward Dimentio.
Presto!
Come one, come all! The moment is at hand!
Sink the ship and strike up the band!
We're going down.
Come one, come all you've got to be quick
I strike, like ants at a picnic!
And you're breaking down!
(My Own Ultimate show)
We perform erase the norm!
As we sing a song of nothing!
Onward we go!
Onward Dimentio! (People on Dimentios side)
*PRESTO!* (Dimentio And followers who are wizards)
@@uboa8060
And the show goes on
For the weak and strong
But a perfect world
Is just out of grasp
@@diavolokingcrimson1887 actually, the lyrics of the ultimate show were like this:
Up and down on this merry go round
Destination you'll never known
Now we find is the end of the line
Here we go its the ultimate show!
Search the rest on youtube, the song is from Man On The Internet
A MOTHERFUCKING PRIMAL
That was my own version of the ultimate show.
I knew Dimentio was awesome...
Let's compare these two in a fight.
me:ok
pulls out 52 different physics textbooks.
Let's get started.
We need Dimentio in Origami King
Amazing job just amazing :] cant wait for more
Well my friend if the channels of a 2-Step stand itself getting good views and subscribers will be able to keep making my readers episodes bigger and better in terms of visuals and everything
Graced Gnome yeah my man. This was a good episode to start up as (did the fight myself and ite so... so wrong so I'm happy someone did it right lol) but I hope to see next time. Bayonetta vs Kratos or is it Asura vs Kratos
THE GREAT DEMON it's supposed to be a mystery but it's a Asura versus Kratos
Graced Gnome oh damn nice! :) now if you go to the author statements (I dont think should be used) kratos eins. But if not then asura should win. I'm hyper now
well to be honest I am not the script writer for RD so I don't know who is going to win I i'm just the channel owner and video maker of all the other shows on this channel.
If plot armor didnt exist these two would be the strongest things in fiction
bill just floating there nervously while the anouncer introduces dimentio
5:54 That’s a lot of years
Episode one
That really took the line
"You are the first of your kind I'll make sure you are your last"
-W.D Gaster
I liked Dimentio for his personality and theme, but now I like him even more.
I mean if you think about it, if dimentio was gonna destroy EVERYTHING. That means that it would destroy infinite multiverses BECAUSE the mario universe connects to the sonic universe (sonic has made cameos and some games and the Olympic Games) and the sonic universe is connected to Archie multiverse, which has infinite multiverses.
I came here looking to fault the logic of a mario fanboy screeching incoherently about Dimentio being unbeatable... What I got was pretty concrete evidence of Dimentio's power both before and after absorbing the Chaos Heart and.. yeah no... Bill has no consistent way of beating Dimentio, if, hypothetically speaking, a series of, let's say one thousand, different dimension versions of Dimentio and Bill Cipher, all identical in abilities to the ones discussed in this video, all fought simultaneously, more Dimentios would win than Bills
Wrong
@@mannycampos6885 Then give us the reasons why.
@@mannycampos6885 why he literally gave out evidence so how is he wanked?
@@Mannyhdz0052 "evidence" That's been debunked
@@mannycampos6885 no it hasn't literally they explain how the string theory soup works
Holy shit, dude, you ain't fuckin around.
I freaking love dementio
Before it begins
"DIMENTIO"
“...this is where we get to Dimentio’s real hax.”
I’m sorry, inducing the concept of death in an otherwise immortal being ISNT HAX ENOUGH? What the hell did I just say?!
a whole new meaning of super paper mario have the best story out of any nintendo game
out of curiosity are you guys still making or planning to continue rivalry duels? since the research and attention to detail was done very well and as a guy who knows his Mario stuff even, I'm impressed with the info you laid out for dimentio.
Say what is that hero like music from gravity falls that your were playing when you were doing Bill Cipher at 27:00
I had seen gravity falls many times but i had never even heard of dimentio and now I respect him so much more
Yess he's so underrated!
Dimentio's entire story being relevant to one game and nowhere outside it is such a shame. This is a character that could be a constant presence in the lore. To compare with Bill, we can equate one episode of Gravity Falls to one Mario adventure. Bill is present throughout even if he doesn't appear in every episode. He's even in the title sequence and his presence is felt indirectly through details all over the series. If Nintendo cared about the lore added in the Mario RPGs, Dimentio could be a similar case. A looming greater threat who views our 3-dimensional reality as a cute game, that shows up from time to time to fuck with people like Bill does in the episodes prior to Weirdmageddon. But no, Dimentio gets introduced and killed off in the same game and while other great villains from the RPGs, such as Fawful, have managed to recur to an extent, they still never got to shine outside the RPGs and are usually either killed off or ignored outside the RPGs. The most we get for Mario villains that stay relevant are Bowser and... his minions... (not even all of them too, where the FUCK did Kammy go) There's also Wario I guess but nowadays he's more of an anti-hero. I actually like Bowser better in that kind of role too, the villains like Dimentio were always the ones I liked the most.
I only recently watched Gravity Falls for the first time and Bill is such a fun character and he definitely reminds me of Dimentio in more ways than one. I think if Dimentio were to ever appear in a cartoon, he'd be written similarly to how Bill is. And I'd be all over that. I like how Bill isn't killed off for good either. He's seemingly "erased" but Stan regained his memories soon after so who's to say Bill can't be included in that? Bill could still be hiding in Stan's mind, watching the outside world through Stan's eyes and waiting for the perfect time to strike back. Dimentio didn't get that possibility. He could have, but they'd have put some details in that entertain the thought. We see Bleck and Tippi in their true form, happy in paradise but nothing is ever done to suggest Dimentio could have survived. It would be cool for an encore story with Dimentio but Nintendo doesn't even want to acknowledge ANY character from SPM or earlier exists anymore, even in the Paper Mario series. Sorry kinda got ranty, I just get emotional when I think about how amazing SPM's characters and plot are, along with most of the other 2000s RPGs, and how Nintendo's treatment is literally polar opposite, as if they were disgraces to the Mario brand (which Nintendo likes to arbitrarily keep knee-deep and sterile)
So to me, Bill scratches the Dimentio-shaped itch i guess. It would be cool to see them team up. Also, Alex Hirsch is now one of my top picks for a Dimentio voice if he ever was in a voice acted production. Right next to Man on the Internet's voice for him, who is also named Alex (Beckham).
Side note regarding Bill's voice, I actually had watched The Owl House before watching Gravity Falls, and King has basically Bill's voice but without the effects. It's insane how contrasting their characters are and how different the energy is they emit just from the presence of that echo effect. King is sympathetic and lovable, Bill is a demonic psychopath (but still lovable).
Who Would Win:
Cosmic jester wielding the power of a dark nexus of pure cursed hatred while possessing the body of said hatred's ideal host
Bowser ground pound
okay seriously thank u for this video this only made me love both characters more. so well put together, Dimentio's story was put so nicely
@a name you can read oh!
Really great Informations and umm multi-outcome battles its very informative good job 👍
Both of these characters are insanly powerful jeez
i had a stroke from how much dimension talk there was
I love this big brain stuff
Ah ha ha! It seems that I, Dimentio, the charming magician has won.
Obviously.
If everybody wondering what happened to graced gnome, apparently they're in prison for murder.
Wait WHAT?! Where the hell did y hear that?!
@@Thewavedemonjackal.
ruclips.net/video/xdmulmJ0G1A/видео.html.
Not long after the making of the video did they commit this heinous murder.
@@Thewavedemonjackal There's a mugshot of them and abc news of them. They've killed their beloved mother due to ongoing argument.
@@KamiTenchi Oh my god. Do you have a link?
@@Thewavedemonjackal Unfortunately I can't put a link here because youtube censorship.
Ok I'm sorry but DIMENTIO BELONGED TO A BLOODLINE
*OF PIXL MAKERS???*
*AND THE AUTHOR OF THE DARK PROGNOSTICUS!?!?!?*
WELL GOD *DAMN*
22:35 Wait WHAT!? since when could he use that attack?! I've never seen that happen...
Dimentio: Let's see how powerful you are bill.
Bill cipher:Will see about that.
18:55 I know of this capability, its in a skyrim mod I have: I can literally erase doors for up to a full 2 minutes so you can stealthkill your enemies, and also stop them from fleeing and calling up backup which would raise your bounty, it can be dual cast so you erase a door for up to 4 minutes if need be.
I liked this. Do you think you could do a battle between Marx (Kirby) and Jevil (Deltarune)?
@Chaos Leviatho Why? Because AnimationRewind refuses to let Jevil have a body that "can't be killed"?
Jevil curbstomps.
I'd say marx ftw
As he took hits from kirby who could break planets in half
Jevil has never shown that type of durability or strength
This was from a while ago, but if I'm being honest, it probably depends on the scenario, as characters in that dark world can't be killed outright while in that dark world, whereas outside of it Jevil and all the others are ordinary playing cards among other junk. If any character can figure out how to destroy the dark fountain supporting Jevil, he's as good as dead. However, if somehow were talking about any other scenario where Jevil somehow is outside of a dark world and doesn't have to rely on a dark fountain to support him, he cannot die. People talk about world-breaking durability, but Jevil can take any size hacked-in hit and appear seemingly fine
Though can't he be tired out to a point of rest?
That's how the fun gang dealt with him
i want to see a fight animation of this
The only reason mario won is because he has the ultimate shield, protagonist protection
Aka plot armour
@@cathal_account9815 yeah that makes more sense
someone pls just take reigns of this wonderful series. This series is fantastic and we can't just have it ruined and died because of what the creators did. This should be taken upon someone else to continue it. nobody has too, but i bet that anyone, even myself if i am up to it, can take the torch of this series and continue it so that this idea of "facts over laughs" within the vs community dose not die a quick death and still live on with the people who truly care about it.
not expecting much on the impact of this statement or if it would even be taken seriously, but i do hope that someone or even myself can have this series live on and not be forgotten.
neverminded I take everything back I hope he is still rotting in prison
Edit: still hoping for the rotting part, but also want to un-take about someone else doing the series justice that these two murderers ruined.
sorry, but Dorito man NEVER stood a chance against the Deity of Calamity.
also, Bill does not know all. Stanford says: "oh it's just a simple equation" when talking about how to get out of gravity falls' 'weird zone'. Bill does not know the equation
Finally Someone Did some good research.
Plot twist they become friends and go on a massive spree of madness and clown music.
And Bill can join the Chaos trio (Dimentio, Jevil and Marx).
I fell like they would just team up to be the ultimate duo
I knew that bill was a dimension destroyer (destroying the 2 dimension) but DAME he’s easily one of if not the most powerful cartoon character
You deserve more subs tbh
This was great
My IQ went up by 5,000
when you are THOUSANDS TIMES SMARTER, you experiences existential crisis.
Bill:I'm the strongest being ever *Dimentio comes in* what a noob
Dimentio: hold my beer
pixl queen: Im a all powerful being.
Bill Chiper: No I am.
Dimentio: Amatures.
Both: What was that, Punk?
Super Dimentio: *(Ultimate show intensifies)* *A* *M* *A* *T* *U* *R* *E* *S* *.* (snaps them out of existence.)
This is literally the only video I found that actually explains Dimentio's backstory
Same here. Sad that it had to come from someone who was a psychotic villain themselves.