He got what he deserved. He tried to destroy existence, now he no longer exists. Although, this does open up a lot of ideas. Like what else that was once canon, is just existing in the void?
I kind of see it as him just having a point of view of the scepter just seeing his surroundings nothing else no life no sound just nothing a dark empty room where he’s alone forever and there’s no way to get out. You know less like a pull some shadows shadow shenanigans.
I like to think he's stuck in that room where he fought Shadow but still inside the scepter (if he wasn't he would probably time travel out), not only in a space out of time, but denied the freedom to live in it, forever forced to watch the room where he was first truly rejected
One little thing is that Mephiles has a little narrative in Shadow Gens. For so long, he craved nothingness and in Gens, he got it only to realize how horrible it actually is. It kinda also adds another layer to his desperation
More than "realize", I believe he already knew the horrors of not existing and that is precisely what he wished for everyone. The difference is Mephiles is the one enduring it instead of the rest of the world and, to make it even worse, he is conscious of that, not being granted at least the peace of not being aware of his erasure because of his nature as a god of time.
It's unsettling when you realize all of the "Corruption" goo everywhere, came from his seal. Is so powerful that even sealed behind a time gate in the stick of dank. He all things considered, hasn't even been there that long, I doubt itll hold him forever.
@@StrangestDetriment08..-Solaris in game WAS portrayed as a benevolent God. Humans experimenting and breaking him into two was what turned his pieces into one evil and the other mad. Problably got his mind straight once defeated and decided to peace out before got insane again, which he truly was insane, because what God of Time WANTS to destroy all time? Seems counter productive no?
That original voice, was true evil I always forget Mephilies and Sonic never interacted in 06, from Sonic's perspective he was stabbed in the back and fell over
Honestly they cooked with mephiles in this game His resentment towards shadow still burning His desperation to exist Him literally becoming the "i want to LIVE!!!!!" SpongeBob meme (no I will NOT stop saying that about him and NO ONE will change my mind) And him finally going ALL OUT, because (correct me if I'm wrong) we never see him "unleash" before, right? (Like we see in 12:41 , where he does a little dbz -esc powerup )
The one thing I’d change is how Mephilis got to the Void. Remember Eggman was trying to wipe Sonic from existence. The Void is what happens to creations when it’s removed from existence. So when Mephilis is removed from the timeline, then he should’ve been vanished to the Void. So the Time Eater doesn’t drag Mephilis into this, nor does Black Doom (the one responsible for Shadow Generations). Mephilis was buried in the Void and sealed away. Eggman’s and Black Doom’s antics merely unearthed him.
And he had more seals on him than the other bosses. And was hidden deep underground. He was probably just stuck wandering around in the void. Then the time eater appears and forces him away sensing that he could pose a threat to it
Timer eater: Wassup... who are you? Mephiles: I'm going to destroy the timeline and all of reality: Also Time eater: Just gonna lock this one up extra tight annnnnnnnd. What is the hedgehog doing? WHAT IS HE DOING!?
Shadow Generations and Mephiles' portrayal in it made Mephiles my favorite Sonic villain. Robbie Daymond's performance is so good. I do wish that Dan Green had gotten to voice this version of Mephiles though Let him exist, Sega!
Mephiles deserves everything he got, 100%. He’s a monster that desired destruction, and had the ghaul to claim he was doing it as “revenge” against humanity, essentially mocking Shadow. There’s also the fact he literally lied about Sonic being Iblis, and Shadow being defeated by Omega and captured cause of it, yes, we know he shows Shadow what will happen, and he tells Omega, but, considering the Sonic thing was fake, whose to say he wasn’t bullshitting to Shadow or Omega? But, what’s scary is that, he’s possibly still out there, trapped, but never gone. He could’ve been able to escape, heck, it seems like even White Space wanted to keep him out, but couldn’t due to the purple sludge
He brought this fate on himself,but in weird way this feels like it was his destiny.Mephiles was born as a being of darkness and hatred,having an innate lust for destruction and chaos,despite his intelligence.I don't feel sorry for him,not one bit.He was an asshole that WANTED destruction and he is a very sadistic person.But I do feel pity for him,Since he had every right to win.He was in control,he could have the power to kill everyone.And now he's paying the price for it,suffering a fate far worse then death:Not existing.
I still think mephiles has a chance to come back as the main villain someday because he is just way too popular, and Sega knows this, the boss fights in this game are great, but the attention to detail and care in this boss fighting is on another level especially when it comes to the narrative, and there are a few things that now make the chances much greater. Mephiles is indeed a Shadow villain and not Sonic, Shadow was originally intended to never come back after Sonic Adventure 2 but he was just too popular, so Sega brought it back in Heroes. and Shadow in that game had a bigger role in that game than Sonic himself, then he got his own game, and in 06 he was also more important than Sonic, he was basically the New main character in the 3D games, then you had the Sonic only playable era, but thanks to the success of Sonic x shadow generations and the final horizons update making other characters playable again I think this will happen again, so mephiles would be a perfect villain for that new era And Sega revealed that they are interested in making a Sonic 06 remake. And Sega also revealed that a Sonic Movie 4 is going to be made, even if it's a character like Metal Sonic in the post credit scene, I'm pretty sure they're never going to stop making movies because they're just too successful, so we're probably going to get a Silver movie at some point, and I'm pretty sure they're going to use the events from 06 and not from rivals
Maybe if they make a Silver generations in 10 years then he might come back as main villain, he's the only one who could really fill that spot for Silve
The time eater seems to be capable of bringing events that didn't happen back, as well as ones that are yet to appear. You can see this in how Sonic fights Silver and the levels in crisis city. Mephilis is aware of this and wanted to escape that fate somehow. In reality, he died when the flame was blown out.
Mephiles was definitely the perfect [hedgehog doppelganger for Shadow*], especially when you compare the contrasts to Gerald and Maria's philosophies on the name "Shadow". [*Kinda ironic considering that Shadow was called a "Sonic Doppelganger" despite Shadow being much older than Sonic]
I always think shadow gets annoyed at that. Like sonic calls him a faker when they first meet, metal overlord calls him a faker too. But I think that’s what makes shadow stand out the most among Sonic’s “counterparts “ cause he truly isn’t, he doesn’t live single mindedly with the idea to prove himself superior to Sonic like others do. He is his own hedgehog and you can call him a faker or a copy cat but shadow knows who he is
Actually true. He would ask that exact question. Because he's done a lot of bad stuff. So we'd need to specify on what specific thing he did... and that would be erase time.
we know with Sonic and Elise found out that Solaris is unkillable, so they went back in time and she blows solaris off like a candle so which means Blaze is still alive, Silver never met Sonic and Shadow and Shadow didn’t remember Mephiles or haven’t heard about the scepter of darkness
To be fair it isn't completley accurate to say 06 isn't canon, elements showing up in generations proves that. It's just canon that the events were erased from existence, but something of what happened still remains.
Sometimes whenever I see Mephiles Move all I see is just a puppet sort of like ciye From murder drones it’s like their bodies are just barely moving like their puppets on strings. It’s really creepy and I love it.
Well Silver still exists in the main timeline and was re-introduced in Rivals. It has been said that Silver is decoupled from time so I think the Silver we see in Generations and Forces is the same from 06.
Despite how vile Mephilis is, I felt bad for him getting utterly erased from existence and knowing it was going to happen before it did. The great mastermind who originally attained his goal was rendered desperate in his final moments.
"Shadow, I will destroy you for not just sealing me away, but erasing me from existence!" "... What kind of bubblegum are you, ya spiky grape?" "Oh, not this again."
The way Mephiles was clawing and trying everything to exist again just made me feel terrible....we desperately need another villain in the level of Mephiles. I actively want him to exist again, i want him back
Mephiles is the ultimate example of how being a victim doesn't make you a good person. Solaris was tortured until he was riped apart in Iblis and Mephiles, and Mephiles only knew pain ever since he was borned since the first thing he does is run away from the laboratory that tortured him and now these two hedgehogs he doesn't know who are trying to trap him again, even when he is about to be sealed he said "what? stop" the guy was literally born with hatred since that is all he knew. The result? He tried to kill not everyone, but everything. His hatred is understandable, but not justified. Just because he is a victim doesn't means he isn't evil, he is HELLA evil and he should remained sealed. I still blame the duke of Soleanna for this, those guys violated Solaris when they were supposed to care for him, bunch of dumbasses almost got everything destroyed for selfishness
It's less greed and more desperation to see the deceased once again. I'm not justifying the duke, just correcting. He was more desperated to see his wife again at all cost, nothing more and nothing less. So, I suppose selfish is the more accurate word
Hey bro, cool video, nice to see someone doing the work of combing through 06 to make some Mephiles content. I feel like the video script could be cut down quite a bit though as there was a lot of repeated points. Great stuff overall though, I'll watch this space for the next one!
Something tells me we’re gonna see Mephiles again. I have a feeling he ain’t done yet. And if we do see him again, I wanna see Sonic encounter and fight him.
I always had a head canon why Mephlies couldn’t fuse with Iblis in the future (without getting revenge). It might be that both he and Iblis have to fuse willingly, problem is Iblis is a destructive monster, he’s been set loose for so long in the future he doesn’t even recognize his other half. So when he does get free from Elise there’s a small window where he retains his intelligence.
I don’t know why, but when shadow said “there is no future for you, ever” I feel like it was meant to show part of Shadow does remember him. At least to an extent
I’m telling you. This was planting a seed for Mephiles to return. I feel like he will eventually be brought back. Although, I think it’ll be a “Oh shit. We can’t beat this guy…but there is somebody that can” and that somebody is Mephiles. This was definitely put here for a reason. Mephiles is gonna have a bigger role some day. I’m sure.
12:24 to say 06 isn’t canon because the events didn’t happen doesn’t work like that 06 is in fact canon what happened is when Elise put out Solaris in the end the timeline scewed to a different tangent where the events didn’t happen and any mainline games after 06 took place Unless we wanted to go by Banner’s logic from end game what he said is what happened to 06 Thanks to the time eater it brought Mephiles from the point in time where he was still exists Additional note white space and different timelines aren’t a pocket dimension
The way it works is it erased previous timeline from existence when events change to the new timeline. Look at Back to the Future II for example on how time travel works there.
I would like to remind everyone that Ian has revealed that iblis still exist in blaze since she has become his vessel like Elise only she may not remember 06 or she sorta does but not the major detail as much
I'll admit, of all the Sonic villains, Mephiles the Dark is actually my personal favorite. Not because of the fact that literally killed Sonic, a feat that not even Eggman can pull off, but because of what he is. Most of the Sonic characters are named after the animals they are like Sonic the Hedgehog, Knuckles the Echidna, Blaze the Cat, Charmy Bee, ect. Mephiles is known as Mephiles the Dark and the Dark is not an animal, but an absence of light. Having a character based on that is rather unique. Plus, I was not a fan of Mephiles' voice in Sonic X Shadow Generations. Mephiles' voice in Sonic X Shadow Generations makes him sound similar to Raditz from Dragon Ball Z, if that makes sense. I'd rather prefer his old voice from 06 where he was voiced by Dan Green and trust me when I say Dan Green nailed it as Mephiles.
"a feat not even eggman can pull off" No Eggman can kill him any day he wanted with a drop of a single nuke Mephlies kill sonic by surprise attack Something eggman is strongly against doing Eggman doesn't just want to kill sonic, he wants to prove he is better than sonic
@@bigcammy007I see that you prefer Dan Green's voice over Robbie Daymond. Although, if you ask me, I think the latter fits this Mephiles more than the former since this is not the cold, calculated, and two-steps ahead Mephiles, this is one of anger, desperation, and despair.
and if he won and was restored he could have been a massive issue for sonic and the others even without iblis mephiles would be able to kill sonic and i bet no one could beat him though sealing him is a thing but its not easy
12:24 to say 06 isn’t canon because the events didn’t happen doesn’t work like that 06 is in fact canon what happened is when Elise put out Solaris in the end the timeline scewed to a different tangent where the events didn’t happen and any mainline games after 06 took place Unless we wanted to go by Banner’s logic from end game what he said is what happened to 06 And thanks to the time eater it was bringing Mephiles from the point in time when Mephiles still existed
Also for some unknown bizarre reason, that totally isn't foreshadowing at all, Blaze still has Iblis sealed inside her. This was confirmed not that long ago.
A little detail about this collection of sonic x shadow gens, is if mephiles still lives in the pure void on shadow campain, iblis it's also on the void but it's a level of crisis city This detail made me wonder if mephiles can scape the white space of shadow gens and can meet again with iblis on sonic's campaing It is possible to break the seal if mephiles coul meet again with iblis with all his power of time space????
I just realized something. Do you think that dusty desert is the same sand level from sonic superstars. I mean Memphis Tennessee used the emeralds to make a bunch of clones of himself and the only place we've ever seen that happen is in superstars where the chaos emerald abilities are show. I remember hearing that the chaos emeralds can only do those things on that island in superstars. Thoughts anyone?
Fun fact: in the Archie comics meplius appeared eating lunch with someone in a maximum security prison He was arrested by the zone cops/Multiverse Police And escaped because scourge let out a prison break Scourge is an alternate version of sonic were hes evil and tryed takeing the master emerald
And mephiles is an average joe in those comics. That "I want to exist" line in Sonadow gens just makes mephiles more of a joke than anything that sonic 06 depicts him to be.
@@shadowfox8084 even so, the way he said it just makes it sound like something like what the mcu or hollywood would right on his dialogue. (Which is joke and meme material.)
"He's intelligent" My man had the demigod he wanted to release right there in the future and still went through the trouble of releasing them again for no reason.
My working theory on that is simply because he's just that twisted and evil. Think about it. Mephiles' whole goal stems from manipulation, weaving his way into peoples' minds and gaining control over them. This is displayed excellently in Silver's story, where he uses his desperation as a means to not only kill Sonic, but to possibly even traumatize Silver and Blaze in the end, when they would've realized that Sonic being the Iblis Trigger is actually a half-truth (Mephiles implies that Sonic himself releases Iblis, when it's his death that causes Elise to cry, thus releasing Iblis). This can also be seen in Shadow's story, where he attempts to manipulate him into joining him by showing him his future; being eternally sealed by the humans, for they feared his power. This actually almost works, when Mephiles implies that Omega is the one to seal Shadow away in the future, he looks heartbroken when taking in the information, and almost walks away in disbelief, but is convinced by Rouge to stay. In the final fight of Shadow's story, he outright states that Mephiles has no intention of 'revenge', and that he only wants to see the world burn. Then, in the final story, when Silver and Shadow know his plans and can't be fooled anymore, he just takes it upon himself to sneak up on Sonic and kill him once and for all. In short--he's extremely intelligent, he just uses it to manipulate and even torture others for his own pleasure. He could've just fused with Iblis then and there, but he didn't, because he's just that messed up.
My theory is that Iblis in the future is too fully manifested as its own being, Mephiles needed to be there at the moment of emergence from Elise so they could combine.
@@A.R.T.4It COULD depend on HOW Iblis was released as well. In Silver’s future, he was released when Elise was killed when the Egg Carrier MK. III crashed & exploded, but Mephiles didn’t take advantage of the situation despite having records of it. Perhaps he had to be released in a more “natural” way in order to fuse, rather than the vessel be destroyed to release him….that or when Elise died he spread all over too quickly like the baby spiders in that one video when the mother spider got hit with the broom.
I think Mephiles is more tragic than that I think both Shadow and Mephiles have something in common Being experiments Shadow was to be tested to be the Ultimate Life Form Mephiles was Solaris as humans tried to control time But there are things to consider Shadow was given caring individuals who love him Mephiles didn't and instead he was separated and he just wanted to become apart of Solaris again but with one cutscene Mephiles was surprised and shocked that someone was trying to stop him and he was clearly desperate and because Shadow sealed him away he felt anger growing in him for everything and that was one he stripped away his remorse and becomes sadistic and he does want revenege like Shadow did in his past He wants revenge on everyone and Shadow he wants revenege on humanity Shadow and Mephiles are reflections Mephiles is the reflection to Shadows past which is why he is his shadow and why he looks like him He is the darkest part of his past and he won
Just want to say, 06 IS canon it's just that nobody remembers the events of the game. If it wasn't canon they wouldn't have put Mephiles in Shadow Gens because he wouldn't exist at all in the main continuity if 06 wasn't canon. Great video tho 💯
To this day, there was one thing that always confused me if 06 got Erased from the timeline how in the world did silver and sonic meet? Silver is like the biggest Plot hole as again if the events of sonic 06 got a race then why in the world did silver show up how in the world did Silver show up? I need answers can somebody please tell me
In Sonic Rivals Sliver is reintroduced as there's Eggman Nega exists in his future Despite How Much Time Traveling Sliver does, there's always something new that shows up to replace the last terrible future
A lot of people see this as Sega confirming that Mephiles will never come back. I see the exact opposite. When it comes to characters returning, it is often only a matter of how much people want to see it. If people want it enough, a writer can find some BS to make it happen. Just look at every comic villain that came back due to popularity. In the past, the main reason Mephiles would NEVER return was not because his timeline got erased. But because 06 was such a memed failure that Team Sonic wanted to forget about it. Pretend it never happened. It was the Star Wars Prequels of Sonic. But... much like the Star Wars prequels, over the years, fans began to appreciate the good in 06. Recognising it as the rough draft of a game that could have been good. And Mephiles in particular has gone from "Dumb edgelord villain" to being praised as one of Sonic's best villains. Type "Mephiles" in the you tube search and the first things you see are essays calling him an amazing villain And I think Sega has taken notice. They've seen the interest, but... they're also cautious. They got burned before. What if this is just some vocal minority and most Sonic Fans actually still hate Mephiles and end up crucifying them if he really returns. So this was them testing the waters. A small showing of Mephiles, something they would NEVER have done a decade ago. A tiny cameo to see how people will react. And given the overwhelmingly positive reception this one scene has gotten... I highly doubt this is the last time we will see Mephiles in Sonic.
I hope SEGA pulls a Galactus and makes the scepter like a pocket dimension outside of time and space, so Shadow actually played into his hands even if Mephiles didn’t know it. All that would need to happen for him to return is some curious explorers to find the scepter in Dusty Desert and break it and Mephiles would be free.
@@BigDripMike Apparently In order for Mephiles to merge with Iblis it has to be when Iblis is just flames Plus he needed all the chaos emeralds as well it wouldn't have worked when it was the Monstrosity it was in the future, Probably because it was more destructive, Iblis was the part of Solaris that's Just RAW power it had no intelligence or a mind to really run off of, it just wanted to destroy and didn't care about anything else it was just instinct, MEPHILES is the part of Solaris that's literally its Mind, it's Intelligence, It's cunning, plus to add the fact Mephiles was SEALED in the scepter so he couldn't really do anything but just watch as the world burn away (Plus to add the story wasn't really fleshed so there are some loop holes of course) But basically in short...Iblis was far beyond the point of merging with Mephiles because it most likely would reject him even if the emeralds were gathered, so it has to be when it was just flames it's earliest form.
Mephiles The Dark will Always be the Best and Most Evil Character!!! In the Sonic Franchise!!! Dude is (THE) Satan of the Sonic Verse!!! And is more like a Creature that comes from Hell itself! He’s beyond Terrifying and is Beyond Sadistic!!!😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈 he Tried to End all of Existence and Reality itself along with his Whole Verse Purely for his own Sadistic Pleasure and is among the Best Examples of Being Evil for Absolutely No Reason at all!!! He’s just pure Evil!!!😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈 We love him to Return!!!🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
He got what he deserved. He tried to destroy existence, now he no longer exists.
Although, this does open up a lot of ideas. Like what else that was once canon, is just existing in the void?
I kind of see it as him just having a point of view of the scepter just seeing his surroundings nothing else no life no sound just nothing a dark empty room where he’s alone forever and there’s no way to get out. You know less like a pull some shadows shadow shenanigans.
I like to think he's stuck in that room where he fought Shadow but still inside the scepter (if he wasn't he would probably time travel out), not only in a space out of time, but denied the freedom to live in it, forever forced to watch the room where he was first truly rejected
There is the seal that incarcerates him, he's an immortal.
Archie Sonic for one.
Void, we all know what originated form it in the sonic world.
One little thing is that Mephiles has a little narrative in Shadow Gens. For so long, he craved nothingness and in Gens, he got it only to realize how horrible it actually is. It kinda also adds another layer to his desperation
Damn, that's deep... But then what would his new goal be, if he theoretically managed to return to the main timeline with this mindset?
@@InnocentBurger-gm4td Simple. Once he gets his revenge, he’ll probably just wander, searching for purpose.
More than "realize", I believe he already knew the horrors of not existing and that is precisely what he wished for everyone. The difference is Mephiles is the one enduring it instead of the rest of the world and, to make it even worse, he is conscious of that, not being granted at least the peace of not being aware of his erasure because of his nature as a god of time.
Mephiles be like
Wants Nothingness
Gets Nothingness
Andd Regrets it (He somehow didn't realize Nothingness literally Sucks Completely)
And with Iblis only existing in Sonic's whitespace (because Crisis City exists) Mephiles is forced to remain separated
It's unsettling when you realize all of the "Corruption" goo everywhere, came from his seal.
Is so powerful that even sealed behind a time gate in the stick of dank. He all things considered, hasn't even been there that long, I doubt itll hold him forever.
More accurately, the “true Solaris” took Elise and Sonic back in time to erase itself to prevent all the destruction to the world.
It would DO that? Betray it's halves for the daughter of it's abuser
I'm ngl, I thought that was Elise's doing.
@@StrangestDetriment08..-Solaris in game WAS portrayed as a benevolent God. Humans experimenting and breaking him into two was what turned his pieces into one evil and the other mad. Problably got his mind straight once defeated and decided to peace out before got insane again, which he truly was insane, because what God of Time WANTS to destroy all time? Seems counter productive no?
@@jordanjames3194ts writing IS fire⁉️🔥🔥🔥
That original voice, was true evil
I always forget Mephilies and Sonic never interacted in 06, from Sonic's perspective he was stabbed in the back and fell over
"Tragic" is quite an understatement for the heavenly crimes this guy has committed
Less screentime, returns only to be killed.
Honestly they cooked with mephiles in this game
His resentment towards shadow still burning
His desperation to exist
Him literally becoming the "i want to LIVE!!!!!" SpongeBob meme (no I will NOT stop saying that about him and NO ONE will change my mind)
And him finally going ALL OUT, because (correct me if I'm wrong) we never see him "unleash" before, right? (Like we see in 12:41 , where he does a little dbz -esc powerup )
Yet still get his dark behind whooped by Shadow
The one thing I’d change is how Mephilis got to the Void. Remember Eggman was trying to wipe Sonic from existence. The Void is what happens to creations when it’s removed from existence. So when Mephilis is removed from the timeline, then he should’ve been vanished to the Void.
So the Time Eater doesn’t drag Mephilis into this, nor does Black Doom (the one responsible for Shadow Generations). Mephilis was buried in the Void and sealed away. Eggman’s and Black Doom’s antics merely unearthed him.
And he had more seals on him than the other bosses. And was hidden deep underground. He was probably just stuck wandering around in the void. Then the time eater appears and forces him away sensing that he could pose a threat to it
WELL WHEN YOU REMEMBER WHAT MEPHILIS DID...
HE DESERVES ALL OF THIS.
No one deserves infinite limbo dude
@Redspike2K Bro HE TRIED TO DESTROY THE UNIVERSE.
Send him to radical highway at this point.
Even if they tried to erase everything including time
@@Redspike2K A fate truly worse than death.
@@Redspike2KThat was the fate he was bringing onto everyone else
Timer eater: Wassup... who are you?
Mephiles: I'm going to destroy the timeline and all of reality:
Also Time eater: Just gonna lock this one up extra tight annnnnnnnd. What is the hedgehog doing? WHAT IS HE DOING!?
perfect explination why it has 4 boss keys🤣👍
Shadow Generations and Mephiles' portrayal in it made Mephiles my favorite Sonic villain. Robbie Daymond's performance is so good. I do wish that Dan Green had gotten to voice this version of Mephiles though
Let him exist, Sega!
Mephiles deserves everything he got, 100%. He’s a monster that desired destruction, and had the ghaul to claim he was doing it as “revenge” against humanity, essentially mocking Shadow. There’s also the fact he literally lied about Sonic being Iblis, and Shadow being defeated by Omega and captured cause of it, yes, we know he shows Shadow what will happen, and he tells Omega, but, considering the Sonic thing was fake, whose to say he wasn’t bullshitting to Shadow or Omega? But, what’s scary is that, he’s possibly still out there, trapped, but never gone. He could’ve been able to escape, heck, it seems like even White Space wanted to keep him out, but couldn’t due to the purple sludge
Although Metal Sonic will always be my favorite villain in this series, Mephiles is definitely top-tier.
He brought this fate on himself,but in weird way this feels like it was his destiny.Mephiles was born as a being of darkness and hatred,having an innate lust for destruction and chaos,despite his intelligence.I don't feel sorry for him,not one bit.He was an asshole that WANTED destruction and he is a very sadistic person.But I do feel pity for him,Since he had every right to win.He was in control,he could have the power to kill everyone.And now he's paying the price for it,suffering a fate far worse then death:Not existing.
He doesnt have "an insane amount of power" thats the whole point of him. Hes all brains no brawn. Iblis has the power
I still think mephiles has a chance to come back as the main villain someday because he is just way too popular, and Sega knows this, the boss fights in this game are great, but the attention to detail and care in this boss fighting is on another level especially when it comes to the narrative, and there are a few things that now make the chances much greater.
Mephiles is indeed a Shadow villain and not Sonic, Shadow was originally intended to never come back after Sonic Adventure 2 but he was just too popular, so Sega brought it back in Heroes.
and Shadow in that game had a bigger role in that game than Sonic himself, then he got his own game, and in 06 he was also more important than Sonic, he was basically the New main character in the 3D games, then you had the Sonic only playable era, but thanks to the success of Sonic x shadow generations and the final horizons update making other characters playable again I think this will happen again, so mephiles would be a perfect villain for that new era
And Sega revealed that they are interested in making a Sonic 06 remake.
And Sega also revealed that a Sonic Movie 4 is going to be made, even if it's a character like Metal Sonic in the post credit scene, I'm pretty sure they're never going to stop making movies because they're just too successful, so we're probably going to get a Silver movie at some point, and I'm pretty sure they're going to use the events from 06 and not from rivals
Well narratively I don’t see them bringing him back again, but if they could do it without contradicting anything, then I’m down for it
Maybe if they make a Silver generations in 10 years then he might come back as main villain, he's the only one who could really fill that spot for Silve
The time eater seems to be capable of bringing events that didn't happen back, as well as ones that are yet to appear. You can see this in how Sonic fights Silver and the levels in crisis city. Mephilis is aware of this and wanted to escape that fate somehow. In reality, he died when the flame was blown out.
COOKED with the editing of this one my guy!
OMG TY FOR THIS VIDEO IVE BEEN TELLING PPL THAT MEPHILES HAS GOTTEN MORE DESPERATE YOU CAN TELL IN HIS VOICE SO MUCH MAN😭😭😭😭
Mephiles was definitely the perfect [hedgehog doppelganger for Shadow*], especially when you compare the contrasts to Gerald and Maria's philosophies on the name "Shadow".
[*Kinda ironic considering that Shadow was called a "Sonic Doppelganger" despite Shadow being much older than Sonic]
I always think shadow gets annoyed at that. Like sonic calls him a faker when they first meet, metal overlord calls him a faker too. But I think that’s what makes shadow stand out the most among Sonic’s “counterparts “ cause he truly isn’t, he doesn’t live single mindedly with the idea to prove himself superior to Sonic like others do. He is his own hedgehog and you can call him a faker or a copy cat but shadow knows who he is
Dan Green also voiced him perfectly. That dark menacing aura was awesome. Too bad he isn‘t voicing him in Generations.
SEGA has always been replacing VAs over and over again, and the Sonic gens rewrite.
"What did I do to deserve this? I mean what SPECIFICALLY!?"
Actually true. He would ask that exact question. Because he's done a lot of bad stuff. So we'd need to specify on what specific thing he did... and that would be erase time.
we know
with Sonic and Elise found out that Solaris is unkillable, so they went back in time and she blows solaris off like a candle
so which means Blaze is still alive, Silver never met Sonic and Shadow and Shadow didn’t remember Mephiles or haven’t heard about the scepter of darkness
To be fair it isn't completley accurate to say 06 isn't canon, elements showing up in generations proves that. It's just canon that the events were erased from existence, but something of what happened still remains.
Sometimes whenever I see Mephiles Move all I see is just a puppet sort of like ciye From murder drones it’s like their bodies are just barely moving like their puppets on strings. It’s really creepy and I love it.
I always thought the same thing lol
No way you made that comparison, that’s so true though!
Well Silver still exists in the main timeline and was re-introduced in Rivals. It has been said that Silver is decoupled from time so I think the Silver we see in Generations and Forces is the same from 06.
Decoupled? What do you mean? I've played Sonic Rivals, but I'd forgot what happenend
Well it is what the Archie comics say so I am not sure if it is canon.
@@RamyGd The Archie comics of all things? You sure that comic series contains info connected to the main timeline?
Yeah, for example the name of the GUN Commander « Abraham Towers » is from the Archie comics which made its way in Shadow generations Dark Beginnings.
@@RamyGddude have you not have heard the lawsuit
Shadow casually slaps a god of darkness back into irrelevance
Despite how vile Mephilis is, I felt bad for him getting utterly erased from existence and knowing it was going to happen before it did. The great mastermind who originally attained his goal was rendered desperate in his final moments.
"Shadow, I will destroy you for not just sealing me away, but erasing me from existence!"
"... What kind of bubblegum are you, ya spiky grape?"
"Oh, not this again."
The way Mephiles was clawing and trying everything to exist again just made me feel terrible....we desperately need another villain in the level of Mephiles. I actively want him to exist again, i want him back
Real hes such wasted potential now
Mephiles is the ultimate example of how being a victim doesn't make you a good person.
Solaris was tortured until he was riped apart in Iblis and Mephiles, and Mephiles only knew pain ever since he was borned since the first thing he does is run away from the laboratory that tortured him and now these two hedgehogs he doesn't know who are trying to trap him again, even when he is about to be sealed he said "what? stop" the guy was literally born with hatred since that is all he knew. The result? He tried to kill not everyone, but everything.
His hatred is understandable, but not justified. Just because he is a victim doesn't means he isn't evil, he is HELLA evil and he should remained sealed. I still blame the duke of Soleanna for this, those guys violated Solaris when they were supposed to care for him, bunch of dumbasses almost got everything destroyed for selfishness
It's less greed and more desperation to see the deceased once again. I'm not justifying the duke, just correcting. He was more desperated to see his wife again at all cost, nothing more and nothing less.
So, I suppose selfish is the more accurate word
@juliansoria7733 True, I'll edit my comment
Your doing so well keep it up :P
I feel like the hype around him will make saga bring him back fully
Hey bro, cool video, nice to see someone doing the work of combing through 06 to make some Mephiles content. I feel like the video script could be cut down quite a bit though as there was a lot of repeated points. Great stuff overall though, I'll watch this space for the next one!
Something tells me we’re gonna see Mephiles again. I have a feeling he ain’t done yet. And if we do see him again, I wanna see Sonic encounter and fight him.
If they're gonna do that then either A retcon Mephiles or B bring him back in a way that makes sense
honestly, despite mephiles being one of the biggest scumbags, i actually feel bad for him.
I always had a head canon why Mephlies couldn’t fuse with Iblis in the future (without getting revenge). It might be that both he and Iblis have to fuse willingly, problem is Iblis is a destructive monster, he’s been set loose for so long in the future he doesn’t even recognize his other half. So when he does get free from Elise there’s a small window where he retains his intelligence.
I don’t know why, but when shadow said “there is no future for you, ever” I feel like it was meant to show part of Shadow does remember him. At least to an extent
Mephilus is really interesting character in my opinion
This was soo good 👍🏽
I’m telling you. This was planting a seed for Mephiles to return. I feel like he will eventually be brought back.
Although, I think it’ll be a “Oh shit. We can’t beat this guy…but there is somebody that can” and that somebody is Mephiles. This was definitely put here for a reason. Mephiles is gonna have a bigger role some day. I’m sure.
Mephiles story in sonic x shadow is so well written
Bro got what he got I'm ngl. He and his twin tried to pull a Savitar. That’s what you get when you reach fod the sun, Icarus.
Except... He is the sun.
@Chara_Dreemurr1 then it was meant to be
12:24 to say 06 isn’t canon because the events didn’t happen doesn’t work like that
06 is in fact canon what happened is when Elise put out Solaris in the end the timeline scewed to a different tangent where the events didn’t happen and any mainline games after 06 took place
Unless we wanted to go by Banner’s logic from end game what he said is what happened to 06
Thanks to the time eater it brought Mephiles from the point in time where he was still exists
Additional note white space and different timelines aren’t a pocket dimension
The way it works is it erased previous timeline from existence when events change to the new timeline. Look at Back to the Future II for example on how time travel works there.
I would like to remind everyone that Ian has revealed that iblis still exist in blaze since she has become his vessel like Elise only she may not remember 06 or she sorta does but not the major detail as much
I don’t think that’s necessarily canon truth be told. That needs to be from an official game or manual.
this is the video i've been waiting for
I'll admit, of all the Sonic villains, Mephiles the Dark is actually my personal favorite. Not because of the fact that literally killed Sonic, a feat that not even Eggman can pull off, but because of what he is. Most of the Sonic characters are named after the animals they are like Sonic the Hedgehog, Knuckles the Echidna, Blaze the Cat, Charmy Bee, ect. Mephiles is known as Mephiles the Dark and the Dark is not an animal, but an absence of light. Having a character based on that is rather unique. Plus, I was not a fan of Mephiles' voice in Sonic X Shadow Generations. Mephiles' voice in Sonic X Shadow Generations makes him sound similar to Raditz from Dragon Ball Z, if that makes sense. I'd rather prefer his old voice from 06 where he was voiced by Dan Green and trust me when I say Dan Green nailed it as Mephiles.
"a feat not even eggman can pull off"
No
Eggman can kill him any day he wanted with a drop of a single nuke
Mephlies kill sonic by surprise attack
Something eggman is strongly against doing
Eggman doesn't just want to kill sonic, he wants to prove he is better than sonic
@basilplushie2534 And for some reason or another, Eggman always falls short and loses to Sonic.
@@bigcammy007I see that you prefer Dan Green's voice over Robbie Daymond. Although, if you ask me, I think the latter fits this Mephiles more than the former since this is not the cold, calculated, and two-steps ahead Mephiles, this is one of anger, desperation, and despair.
@@shadowtoad95 Even so, I much prefer Dan Green's voice for Mephiles, but that's me.
"The tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise" ahh title
Everyone asks about Mephiles but never how is Iblis😢
Poor Iblis
"Rawr. I am the Iblis triggerrrr! I am here... to triggerrr youuuu!"
- Iblis from Lytheros The Silver Campaign video
and if he won and was restored he could have been a massive issue for sonic and the others even without iblis mephiles would be able to kill sonic and i bet no one could beat him though sealing him is a thing but its not easy
Mephiles would have been destroyed by Sonic since Sonic now has his guard up.
Great as usual!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The areas where Shadow fights Black Doom represent Westopolis from Shadow the hedgehog.
It's literally Radical Highway lol
@@BigDripMike Who even cares? Radical highway is San Francisco and Westopolis is that set from Independence day where the aliens blow up everything
True canonized fate of hit tragedy and glad this was pointed out he truly is banished to the void
Mephiles has a lot of potential to make a great villain if it were for a really good story.
Mephiles is the GOAT, my favorite character 💜 He deserves better.
12:24 to say 06 isn’t canon because the events didn’t happen doesn’t work like that
06 is in fact canon what happened is when Elise put out Solaris in the end the timeline scewed to a different tangent where the events didn’t happen and any mainline games after 06 took place
Unless we wanted to go by Banner’s logic from end game what he said is what happened to 06
And thanks to the time eater it was bringing Mephiles from the point in time when Mephiles still existed
Thats why hes my number 1 villain.
Also for some unknown bizarre reason, that totally isn't foreshadowing at all, Blaze still has Iblis sealed inside her. This was confirmed not that long ago.
So Zamatsu want to be with Goku Black but in a nutshell ✅
A little detail about this collection of sonic x shadow gens, is if mephiles still lives in the pure void on shadow campain, iblis it's also on the void but it's a level of crisis city
This detail made me wonder if mephiles can scape the white space of shadow gens and can meet again with iblis on sonic's campaing
It is possible to break the seal if mephiles coul meet again with iblis with all his power of time space????
I just realized something. Do you think that dusty desert is the same sand level from sonic superstars. I mean Memphis Tennessee used the emeralds to make a bunch of clones of himself and the only place we've ever seen that happen is in superstars where the chaos emerald abilities are show. I remember hearing that the chaos emeralds can only do those things on that island in superstars. Thoughts anyone?
Fun fact: in the Archie comics meplius appeared eating lunch with someone in a maximum security prison
He was arrested by the zone cops/Multiverse Police
And escaped because scourge let out a prison break
Scourge is an alternate version of sonic were hes evil and tryed takeing the master emerald
And mephiles is an average joe in those comics. That "I want to exist" line in Sonadow gens just makes mephiles more of a joke than anything that sonic 06 depicts him to be.
@crimsonzone8984 it doesn't make him a joke anyone would crash the hell out if they got snuffed from existing
Everyone wants to exist
@@shadowfox8084 even so, the way he said it just makes it sound like something like what the mcu or hollywood would right on his dialogue. (Which is joke and meme material.)
@crimsonzone8984 he was scared of not existing witch is an understandable fear
@@shadowfox8084 understandable for normies.
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"He's intelligent" My man had the demigod he wanted to release right there in the future and still went through the trouble of releasing them again for no reason.
My working theory on that is simply because he's just that twisted and evil.
Think about it. Mephiles' whole goal stems from manipulation, weaving his way into peoples' minds and gaining control over them. This is displayed excellently in Silver's story, where he uses his desperation as a means to not only kill Sonic, but to possibly even traumatize Silver and Blaze in the end, when they would've realized that Sonic being the Iblis Trigger is actually a half-truth (Mephiles implies that Sonic himself releases Iblis, when it's his death that causes Elise to cry, thus releasing Iblis). This can also be seen in Shadow's story, where he attempts to manipulate him into joining him by showing him his future; being eternally sealed by the humans, for they feared his power. This actually almost works, when Mephiles implies that Omega is the one to seal Shadow away in the future, he looks heartbroken when taking in the information, and almost walks away in disbelief, but is convinced by Rouge to stay. In the final fight of Shadow's story, he outright states that Mephiles has no intention of 'revenge', and that he only wants to see the world burn. Then, in the final story, when Silver and Shadow know his plans and can't be fooled anymore, he just takes it upon himself to sneak up on Sonic and kill him once and for all.
In short--he's extremely intelligent, he just uses it to manipulate and even torture others for his own pleasure. He could've just fused with Iblis then and there, but he didn't, because he's just that messed up.
His hubris and desire to cause pain and sorrow led to his undoing. Even a genius can be stupid sometimes.
His hubris and desire to cause pain and sorrow led to his undoing. Even a genius can be stupid sometimes.
My theory is that Iblis in the future is too fully manifested as its own being, Mephiles needed to be there at the moment of emergence from Elise so they could combine.
@@A.R.T.4It COULD depend on HOW Iblis was released as well. In Silver’s future, he was released when Elise was killed when the Egg Carrier MK. III crashed & exploded, but Mephiles didn’t take advantage of the situation despite having records of it. Perhaps he had to be released in a more “natural” way in order to fuse, rather than the vessel be destroyed to release him….that or when Elise died he spread all over too quickly like the baby spiders in that one video when the mother spider got hit with the broom.
I for some reasons always compared Mephiles the dark to goku black. Except zamasu took over vegetas body.
Sadly, Mephiles the Dark will never meet Infinite the Jackal in future Sonic the Hedgehog series.
he'll forever be the boss to be beaten again, again, and again. for shadow generation. lol the tragic fate
I think Mephiles is more tragic than that
I think both Shadow and Mephiles have something in common
Being experiments
Shadow was to be tested to be the Ultimate Life Form
Mephiles was Solaris as humans tried to control time
But there are things to consider
Shadow was given caring individuals who love him
Mephiles didn't and instead he was separated and he just wanted to become apart of Solaris again but with one cutscene Mephiles was surprised and shocked that someone was trying to stop him and he was clearly desperate and because Shadow sealed him away he felt anger growing in him for everything and that was one he stripped away his remorse and becomes sadistic and he does want revenege like Shadow did in his past
He wants revenge on everyone and Shadow he wants revenege on humanity
Shadow and Mephiles are reflections
Mephiles is the reflection to Shadows past which is why he is his shadow and why he looks like him
He is the darkest part of his past and he won
Just want to say, 06 IS canon it's just that nobody remembers the events of the game. If it wasn't canon they wouldn't have put Mephiles in Shadow Gens because he wouldn't exist at all in the main continuity if 06 wasn't canon. Great video tho 💯
Ah yes, my favorite villain. Memphis Tennessee!
To this day, there was one thing that always confused me if 06 got Erased from the timeline how in the world did silver and sonic meet? Silver is like the biggest Plot hole as again if the events of sonic 06 got a race then why in the world did silver show up how in the world did Silver show up? I need answers can somebody please tell me
In Sonic Rivals Sliver is reintroduced as there's Eggman Nega exists in his future
Despite How Much Time Traveling Sliver does, there's always something new that shows up to replace the last terrible future
@@kongthornton780 thank you for giving me the answer to a question that I have been trying to figure out for Nine years straight
2:36 eggman hits rouge and she drops it
I put Rouge when I mistakenly said Shadow
A lot of people see this as Sega confirming that Mephiles will never come back.
I see the exact opposite.
When it comes to characters returning, it is often only a matter of how much people want to see it. If people want it enough, a writer can find some BS to make it happen. Just look at every comic villain that came back due to popularity.
In the past, the main reason Mephiles would NEVER return was not because his timeline got erased. But because 06 was such a memed failure that Team Sonic wanted to forget about it. Pretend it never happened. It was the Star Wars Prequels of Sonic.
But... much like the Star Wars prequels, over the years, fans began to appreciate the good in 06. Recognising it as the rough draft of a game that could have been good. And Mephiles in particular has gone from "Dumb edgelord villain" to being praised as one of Sonic's best villains. Type "Mephiles" in the you tube search and the first things you see are essays calling him an amazing villain
And I think Sega has taken notice. They've seen the interest, but... they're also cautious. They got burned before. What if this is just some vocal minority and most Sonic Fans actually still hate Mephiles and end up crucifying them if he really returns.
So this was them testing the waters. A small showing of Mephiles, something they would NEVER have done a decade ago. A tiny cameo to see how people will react.
And given the overwhelmingly positive reception this one scene has gotten... I highly doubt this is the last time we will see Mephiles in Sonic.
Something tells me they're going to retcon him.
"Tragic" Yeah okay
I hope SEGA pulls a Galactus and makes the scepter like a pocket dimension outside of time and space, so Shadow actually played into his hands even if Mephiles didn’t know it. All that would need to happen for him to return is some curious explorers to find the scepter in Dusty Desert and break it and Mephiles would be free.
Why didn’t he just merge with future Iblis if he was so smart
His revenge with Shadow takes top priority i guess
Plot XD
@@BigDripMike Apparently In order for Mephiles to merge with Iblis it has to be when Iblis is just flames Plus he needed all the chaos emeralds as well it wouldn't have worked when it was the Monstrosity it was in the future, Probably because it was more destructive, Iblis was the part of Solaris that's Just RAW power it had no intelligence or a mind to really run off of, it just wanted to destroy and didn't care about anything else it was just instinct, MEPHILES is the part of Solaris that's literally its Mind, it's Intelligence, It's cunning, plus to add the fact Mephiles was SEALED in the scepter so he couldn't really do anything but just watch as the world burn away (Plus to add the story wasn't really fleshed so there are some loop holes of course) But basically in short...Iblis was far beyond the point of merging with Mephiles because it most likely would reject him even if the emeralds were gathered, so it has to be when it was just flames it's earliest form.
think mephiles would have been better recieved if sonic 06 wasnt fucked over so badly by sega
Quick question why didn't mephiles just fuse with the iblis of silvers timeline
Simple, plot lol
Rip Memphis Tennessee 😔
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Okay technically 06 was canon but the events of 06 were erased
I love him
What if he comes back in the movie series somehow XD
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HEY GAMERS!!! XD
Mephiles The Dark will Always be the Best and Most Evil Character!!! In the Sonic Franchise!!! Dude is (THE) Satan of the Sonic Verse!!! And is more like a Creature that comes from Hell itself! He’s beyond Terrifying and is Beyond Sadistic!!!😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈 he Tried to End all of Existence and Reality itself along with his Whole Verse Purely for his own Sadistic Pleasure and is among the Best Examples of Being Evil for Absolutely No Reason at all!!! He’s just pure Evil!!!😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈 We love him to Return!!!🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
Oh the irony
Well he got what he wished for
He killed sonic tho if sonic wasnt brought back then we wouldnt have sonic unleashed or generations or colours
Cross out Tragic, and you got an accurate title for this video.
i’m just gonna say it here that Zamasu is a copy of mephiles
Thoughts on the lines in Japanese?
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We demand the name Memphis Tennessee Cannon. That's.. that's pretty much it 😂
Atheists when they die:
😂😂😂😂😂
Bro why
LMAO
Believers if atheists are right: 😌
Atheists if Believers are right: ☠️
Lyric from sonic boom rise of lyric and infinite from forces is better 👍
No, they’re not
I don’t think mephlies is intelligent
06 is the game that screwed the canon entirely.
No its pronounced mugh-fil-is 😂