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Remember the Ultramarine mini SCP (3973)?
If that exists inside the SCP universe, does that also imply that 40k as a setting also exists within the SCP universe?
Warhammer 40k exists for sure as a tabletop game, scp world being our world.
This space marine mini as an anomaly could maybe be used to argue scp universe is higher on pataphysics stack but this defeats the purpose of the whole scenario
That leads to the easiest way to defeat the 40k universe, get Games Workshop’s copyright lawyers on the job, the emperor and the chaos gods will be locked up within the week
@@friendlyheretic9103 that does make an interesting point as that can mean that there can be different types of realities of our favourite games animes movies etc. like Goku or naruto can be a character in the SCP verse lol
"Mekane would be dragged to Mars and worshipped against his will"
Big E: MOOOOD KINDREEEED
The imperium will send an army to stop the heretical behavior
It’s just terrifying how easily the mechanicus can assimilate the various branches of the church of the broken god into their faith. Just say the broken god is a parallel manifestation of the omnissiah and most of the churches can be unified in this new universe. The mechanicus would definitely want to worship the pieces of the broken god, artificial intelligence not withstanding, and the church could end up becoming an even more radical and zealous sect of the machine cult with their hatred of Yaldaboth.
Tzeentzch getting its paws, claws, tentacles on the foundation is a scary thought
You brought up the lockwarden of the custodians. Can you imagine a 40k book series in the vein of the SCP universe from the prospective of the custodians detailing the different entities they have in the black cells on terra? Yes please.
If we only take direct entries as canon for this thought experiment, then the SCP universe IS pataphysically higher than the 40k universe because of the existence of 40k as a hobby. Proven by the ultramarine mini that controls dice rolls near it. But I think ignoring that entry is what makes this conversation interesting.
I think if there was one well established group from a SCP Mythos universe who could match up against and challenge a Warhammer 40k galaxy and the factions in it on a nearly equal plainfield it would have to be the Ortothans.
These guys are a extra galactic religion and worship extra galactic tier elder gods of the Seven Rakmou pantheon. I think these guys and the Imperium of Man would have quite a complex relationship. Likely very dangerous but also times where they would work together.
Voruteut would also be a deadly creature which most of the groups would probably want to team up to fight against one.
Even some less extreme factions could put up a fight or at least survive if they were pushed to it. Depending on canon serpents hand could become harlequins 2.0 using wanderers library as their own webway and popping up in random places to cause weird shit
30:00 There are, like, two MTFs who could actually beat a Space Marine squad: Samsara and Last Hope.
Samsara is composed of anomalously augmented immortal soldiers, that all pull a Swarmlord and are able to store their memories and revive in new bodies. They have access to the best anomalous weaponry of the foundation. But they are few in number.
Last hope, on the other hand, has a couple of anomalies which the foundation contains and are able to control as allies: Cain, which by himself could probably survive everything the Imperium throws at him and just reflect the damage (also throw him at an Agri world and watch as billions begin to die from starvation); Your Friendly Neighborhood Keter is part of this MTF as well, alongside Iris, which defeated Able in a fight, and a Girl able to build constructs out of solidified light.
But like I said, those are two MTFs only. I mean, if you wanna stretch, there's the Scrubs MTF, which are just three elite FPS players given immortal avatars, but they refuse to fight humans, so it would depend on whether or not they would perceive the Space Marines as Human anymore.
Theirs one more...
Their's a Mtf made up completely of Reality benders which I assume would fuck some shit up.
Some GOC soldiers might also be able to stand up to them, since the GOC has way more anomalous weaponry, some of which just atomizes anything it touches. The problem in the end isn't in the power though, it's the numbers.
@@TheHikariLP If Were also Adding Groups of Interest as Allies I could Actually see the Wanderers library playing a huge role in keeping people alive even if they don't really have any means to fight...
Especially since no one from 40k has a way to access the Dimension their library is in...
They'd probably end up taking scp earth but if they can find a way to evacuate humanity to places like Unlondon, three Portland and relatively safer Extradimensional anomolies the Casualties Incurred fighting the space Marines on the ground would be moot...
Really its a question of if they could escape war hammer 40k's human forces before they take their world...
Then they could regroup and assuming they took and weaponized some safer anomolies...
What i'm essentially proposing is they retreat rebuild to become something similar to the avalon reality in secret and act in a similar way to something like a gene stealer cult staying in the shadows of the forge world, but instead of trying to kill everyone, they'd Promise freedom from the Imperium of man by escaping the realm they've taken...
I personally think they could do that if it preserves humanity and any Anomoly friendly to them...
The Emperium would still take earth but I think all GOI working together with Friendly anomolies against the Imperium should allow them to survive against them long enough to get away form earths reality.
If they Exterminatus the planet most pf humanity may be able to escape it by once again retreating to a different realm.
Last Hope has been decommissioned for some time now though. They're not a thing anymore.
@Shythalia Alpha-9 "Last Hope" is still active in the canons it exists in. You are probably thinking of Omega-7 "Pandora's Box," which, rather than Cain, utilized Able as an asset. Speaking of, The Foundation could probably launch his sarcophagus at the enemy front lines and sit back as enough blood is spilt to give Khorne a dopamine overdose
I’m actually writing a fanfiction with a similar premise. I’ve recently started continuing it again. Currently the GOC is having diplomatic meetings with a lone Imperial Admiral. Along with this, the Tau accidentally discovered 3125 and got their brains eaten and turned into galactic sized Fifthist Cult! Wonderfully Grimdark.
Read it when it aired its quite neat i must say.
Name please
@@MeowKnightI can find it if you still want to know
Pls I need to know the name
@@IDKGaming7190plese.
It would end in mutual annihilation, The foundation itself, can't stand up to The Imperium of Man, by sheer scale. However, once The Foundation fell, and could no longer keep the anomalies contained, The Imperium would start having some BIG problems. I don't think an Alpha plus Psyker can go toe to toe with the likes of SCP 2845, or The Scarlet King. Then hell, there's the entities from the 1548 rewrite, one of the smaller ones of which one-shotted Pluto, and started to absorb Mars. So no, The Foundation wouldn't survive, but The Imperium will be worse off for it.
The Scarlet King scales well above the Chaos Gods, let alone an Alpha Plus Psykers.
@@voidtempering8700 Yeah, and he's not even the biggest threat.
The foundation I do think has some methods to potentially defeat the imperium using anomalies they do have under control in the right circumstances if you want to take them as canon. One notable thing that comes to mind is SCP-001 Kate McTiriss's Proposal which could completely rewrite reality. SCP-001 Roger's proposal would also take care of this. Another SCP if taken as canon could be used is SCP-3309 which could be used to completely delete the 40k universe. Use of Scp-4001 could probably be used to have someone find a way to save earth by writing that they will into their book. SCP-5094 could probably be used to find ways of stopping the imperium. Some clever manipulation of SCP-239 would probably be able to wipe out the entire 40k universe. SCP-582 could be used to basically wipe out anything they could send against the foundation, something similar applies to SCP-2950. Large scale ships could be dealt with using SCP-2501. This is not at all an exhaustive list.
It mostly comes down to both Canon, and what you actually want for this versus. You want the FOUNDATION against 40k, or you want the ANOMALIES against 40k? Foundation, on most canons, loses badly. Maybe they could survive and become a faction of their on if it was the Ad Astra Per Aspera Foundation. Now, the ANOMALIES against 40k are another story. Some of them could become factions of their own, others become fully fledged Chaos Gods, and some maybe just destroy the universe for all they care. To be Honest the Foundation isn't even the strongest faction of it's own universe lmao.
Well actually no... Foundation in wider multiverse is basically pain in ass of everyone who want to conquer other realities or use anomalous without a care in the world, since there's multiple local and global coalitions of different foundation's working together i believe.
@@theneverwhere6076 Ok. From what canon is this? I wanna read it.
@@kamiwriterleonardo6345 Not single canon or storyline, i mean in general, i read a lot of stuff by randomly pocking my finger at stuff , not reading canon hubs/storylines in order.
@@theneverwhere6076 Thing is, several entries and tales contradict each other. Baseline foundation is loose in canonicity and power, but the overall idea portrays them as not that powerful. Specific tales and canons define stuff better, like the crazy god killing machines of Admonition or the Reality Erasing FTL Drives of Ad Astra Per Aspera. Don't even get me started on Lolfoundation, those guys could wipe out 40k for the Lolz. The most basic version of the Foundation, IMO, is Broken Masquerade. It's the baseline foundation, without the burden of keeping the veil of secrecy. And they wouldn't stand a chance against 40k.
@@kamiwriterleonardo6345 You severely underestimate Foundation and severely overestimate Imperium, i am absolutely sure that Imperium will have NO way of dealing with half the stuff Foundation researches daily, not with their ideas and dogmas, while Mechanicus run their machines purely on power of belief and god knows what else - Foundation reverse engineers anomalous technologies, adapts it, enhances it, and them being "merely in 21 century advancement level" clearly does not stop them from creating stuff like self adapting containment chambers, time continuum separating alloy, metaphysical research, cognito research, and whole lot of other areas that cant be "shot through" with Bolters.
For example Foundation can absolutely prepare a whole lot of number of anomalous signs, text, images and other information that will wreck all the personell in Imperial space fleets, either basically destroying their cognition altogether or outright killing them on spot, and Psykers ain't going to help here because none of this is related to warp by any means, so they wont even detect it until it's too late and at that point half the space fleet staff will be long gone, Foundation doesn't even need raw power in this situation.
If they DO need raw power though, they can launch a missile with reality anchor on it, one such missile has been able to wipe out a city in one go by manipulating reality around it, and considering that anchors usually suppress outside reality warping influence - psykers will be powerless to stop it, and the hull wont handle something that literally sends local reality to kingdom come, you cant tank something physically when the very laws that make "durability" possible stop working.
At most if Imperium provokes Foundation too much, they will probably utilize a whole lot of different rituals to ascend specific trusted and loyal members of Foundation to godhood, by either turning them into type green (reality warper) entity or god level type blue (magician), and Imperium wont be capable of interfering in the ritual if Foundation will perform defensive kinetoglyphs to protect the site of ritual (Kinetoglyphs - anomalous set of movements that interact with higher dimensions and cause effects similiar to reality warping, it works for everyone who knows how to perform them, you dont need natural powers for that.)
If earth does get damaged beyond repair, the local Imperial fleets will absolutely get obliterated by whatever else will be left on/in/below/around earth, being unleashed after Imperium breaking all containment protocols Foundation wasted years on developing.
So yeah there is NO WAY Imperium can defeat SCP Foundation's earth without losing at least all offensive forces in the process, unless they get lucky enough to arrive at version of SCP earth with like 2-3 anomalies at most, lol.
Long story short, it depends. Realistically the SCP foundation would absolutely want to seal whatever portal because of how dangerous it would be.
I honestly think that even a custodes couldn't come away unscathed from a fight with 682, let alone kill 682
You're right. They wouldn't because 682 is uniquely impossible to kill. It can survive being erased from reality. There's nothing any soldier, no matter how strong, could ever do to kill it.
@@dr.veronica6155 The only entity that could possibly do anything meaningful to 682 would be a Chaos God, most likely Tzeentch. Even then, 682 will just adapt and suddenly there are 5 Chaos Gods.
Finally someone that understands averaging different universes out. As someone who is a fan of Halo that franchise in particular stands in the low to mid tier of being able to survive when compared to a good chunk of sci fi. The foundation exists in a paradigm where they have individual items of grand power but they themselves are fairly small and limited even in their most expansive canons.
There are maybe only like, 3 MTFs I can think of that have members better than Guardsmen from Regiments of Reknown (they still get stomped in large scale conflicts because they only have like 5 members in each of these MTF, while an Imperial regiment has tens of thousands).
1. Samsara. Just because their equipment is nonsensical, they have superhuman strength and speed, and are essentially immortal.
2. Achilles Heel: They are all reality benders
3. Omega 9(The scrubs): Literally just what happens if 3 people had all the powers and equipment from the game Quake. And they also respawn.
Special shout-out to the Jaeger Bombers, the scp equivalent of a Titan princeps and crew, and Omega7/Alpha9, just because they have members that are SCPs. But both of those are associated with specific canons
It'd be funny if the foundation met trazyn the infinite.
Member of the 09 council: what do you mean that the most threatening scps are all gone?
Dr bright: I think that robot skeleton stole them all.
Meanwhile, trazyn: ahh, a beautiful art piece of history!
The art piece: *scp 682 vs scp 096 vs scp 106, all frozen in time*
it depends on which scp foundation you are talking about, a foundation like in scp-5000 could put up a good fight with the horrors of 40k.
First, I'd like to say that you're absolutely right that the Shy Guy could take on at least 1 Space Marine. The Marine simply wouldn't be able to kill it, and there's not any known material that the Shy Guy can't easily tear through, so it would likely be able to take on at least 1.
There's actually a bit to suggest that pataphysics would be something the Foundation could use to their advantage, because 40k is actually mentioned in a few SCP articles and tales and is known to be a fictional universe within the SCP universe. And it would be funny if Mekhan actually existed as a complete entity if the SCP universe met the 40k universe, as his existence would probably pretty quickly result in a whole lot of the Adeptus Mechanicus converting to the Church of the Broken God, of at least believing Mekhan to be the Omnissiah.
I highly doubt earth would become a forge world, I think it would be a mixture of a shrine world and a paradise/pleasure world.
Right, because they just found a version of Earth that isn't annihilated like how their Holy Terra was decimated in the past. Still has all the nature & animals in it. Just gotta deal with the anomalies there.
I wouldn't say Space Marines would be able to physically fight SCP-096 and SCP-682 forever. They aren't strong enough for that. And SCP-682's adaption is far more aggressive and far more utterly potent without nearly any restraint sometimes then the Tyranids.
Especially if you include a factor like SCP-682 being a Son of the A'zieb a elder goddess in the form of a beast that gave birth legions of Leviathans. 682 included.
And A'zieb is a bride of the one and only Scarlet King.
They dont need to fight forever. If scp can contain it. Then any chapter can aswel. Difference being that they can outpower the reptile making handling it even easier. With powers and machinations at Imperiums disposal that reptile could be tossed into the warp and there is no adapting to that.
Scp 096 kinda works on a horror movie curse logic in most cases. It's not a monster thats exactly this stron and this fast, its more of a rule that you see its face it eventualy hunts you down outside some specific loopholes mayby. In most cannons its just strong enough to break throu any obstackles, just fast enough to find its target in a resonable timescale. If space marine sees its face he is probably dead, even if he can put up a fight, but if they keep throwing marines or even guard at it they will eventualy realize how it works, they have enough numbers to buy themselves as much time as they need. They could even broadcast its face in some hive city, and with its rate of killing compared to the number of people and rates of population growth the problem will be solved. It will just run around the underhive, murder a guy every minute or so and hardly make a dent.
@@_NutcasE_ hydrochloric acid can damage scp 682 more than it can regen so imperial hackers could get hold of this information and they can find a way to contain it
@@friendlyheretic9103 in some articles shyguy stops its assault if the target is too strong. Shyguy is strong and deadly to normal humans. But its not nearly as fast as an astartes. Simply put 2 marines could relisticly contain and more than likely disect it either with power or forcesword. The articles say shyguy is nigh indestructible but in some canons the foundation has either terminated it or is debating about terminating it.
@@friendlyheretic9103 what are the chances they use 096 as a sorta super eversor?
would love to see a story of the dimension hopper popping up on somewhere in 40k like a underhive on terra or commorragh but leaving the reader to figure it out based on the horrors he describes like servitors or the haemonculus etc.
I think it's best stated as this: The Foundation itself against the 40k universe? Not usually going to stand a chance, but the anomolies? There are many that can cause serious trouble for the 40k universe. Also i disagree that 096 and 682 wouldn't be troublesome. 096 can very easily take on a space marine, and its bones are practically indestructible. As for 682, he'd be far worse than any Tyranid, as he adapts far quicker and has no upper limit.
After getting hit by a few Bolter rounds, he'd develop an immunity to it. After getting hit with a nuke, he'd become immune to it. 682's evolution and adaptation are on par with the Aragami from God Eater. Those things got hit by one nuke, and as a result, they became immune to nukes.
@@starhammer5247 Aragami are fucking terrifying, the only reason they haven't won in the God Eater universe, is pure luck on the side of humanity.
The moment you give an inch they take a fucking lightyear.
@@en-men-lu-ana6870 Their adaptation is fucking insane, and that's disregarding the fact that even if you kill them they'll just reform and come back later. Fucking nightmare fuel. As far as I'm aware, the only things that can damage them are (were) Revenants (if we consider Code Vein as canon to the main games) and weapons made from the flesh of the Aragami, AKA Oracle Cells. Even with the power to fight back, humanity is still largely fucked.
The foundation I do think has some methods to potentially defeat the imperium using anomalies they do have under control in the right circumstances if you want to take them as canon. One notable thing that comes to mind is SCP-001 Kate McTiriss's Proposal which could completely rewrite reality. SCP-001 Roger's proposal would also take care of this. Another SCP if taken as canon could be used is SCP-3309 which could be used to completely delete the 40k universe. Use of Scp-4001 could probably be used to have someone find a way to save earth by writing that they will into their book. SCP-5094 could probably be used to find ways of stopping the imperium. Some clever manipulation of SCP-239 would probably be able to wipe out the entire 40k universe. SCP-582 could be used to basically wipe out anything they could send against the foundation, something similar applies to SCP-2950. Large scale ships could be dealt with using SCP-2501. This is not at all an exhaustive list.
Don't forgot the fact that in the 40k universe AI immediately go full skynet. What if when the portal opens that effect bleeds over to the scp universe?
They did not go full skynet immediately, they were enslaved and abused and fought back.
And that's just humanity's AI, the Tau's AI is still loyal, and the Squats fucking worship theirs.
Samsara would be equal to tempestus scions but the problem with that is they have four people they can’t mass produce them, I would giggle at the mechanicus seeing the Yeager bombers
Great. Now I want to see a storry about the "When day breaks"- scenario in the 40K universe.
They will simply block the sun or move away far away enough and blow up the sun
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Would blowing up the sun work as a solution to that?
@@Shythaliano, because by the time the sun is blown up, its light will already be traveling across the galaxy
@@Lazare7782 oh
just had a idea what if "The Pestilence" that SCP-049 is hunting and "curing" is a dormant form of nurgle's rot and he can sense warp corruption
SCP researcher:" There's a fleet of ships coming out of the portal and heading straight to Earth. They're also sending a signal, someone translated"
The signal: "Hello, it's Slaanesh Patrol, we just stopping by for a picnic" evil perverse laughter. "And everyone's invited"!!!
Oh god, Imagine if Chaos fucking touched a single reality bender from the scp verse...
What they fuck is anyone going to do at that point...
@@wander-0014 Even worst if Doctor Bright find his way into the Warhammer universe.
@@wander-0014 Reality benders above galactic level in SCPverse can delete concepts (let alone multiversal+ tier ones)
Scarlet King's sheer presence into Warhammer 40Kverse alone destabilises both Immaterium and Materium entirely, including chaos gods, Undivided Chaos, C'tan and other byproducts of "War in Heaven"
Many of the universal+ scale of SCP writers are either kids or immature megalomaniac bazinga level of stupid hacks lol
That "bad faith debating" is something I significantly dislike. Sadly I have seen it done quite a lot from the 40k fandom, when it comes to having it "fight" other verses.
I think people get blinded by the 40k's reputation as being op and over the top in all aspects to the poit it creates a sort to mentality that 40k wins agains all those other 'soft' sci-fi universes because its just so brutal and geard for war compared to them
@@friendlyheretic9103 But that would absolutely be the case though. You have entire civilizations that have their soldiery born into and raised for (or bred from scratch in a lab), augmented and amplified, trained and equipped, brainwashed and conditioned, for nothing but military duties. This, in perpetuity, for tens of thousands of years in some cases and millions in others. And opposite to many other settings they don't have a choice but to keep doing this, otherwise they are dead or much worse.
It is slightly insulting to have someone presume that what bias we have because of our fandom negates our capacity for objective reasoning. I haven't seen a single comment or heard anyone, on any of these Universe v. Universe scenarios, state that warhammer always wins, no matter what. And if you did that's still anecdotal evidence. I'd rather you presume me capable of objectivity in the face of bias, instead of this guilty until proven innocent shit. I don't mind if "my" fake Universe is "weaker" than yours. Literally, could give a shit; wouldn't change my opinion on either setting. But I do love the nerdy conversations that come up, and I do like debating.
@@Gobble_Mike_Hawk I was just bringing attention this falacy or wtatever it is not stating it as truth
Maybe the imperium could head outside for awhile come bask in the sunlight it's so beautiful they should come join us in the light.
SCP-3973 would be very happy about Imperium's arrival.
I think Imperium would have an orgasm discovering a beautiful marble version of the Holy Terra to actually harm it. They would do ANYTHING to protect it. It wouod be treated as a pleasure world with Holy Terra benefits.
This was a really great video. Perhaps in the future he might doing consider a sequel where he explores in greater detail what would happen if the other organizations discovered the portal first, like the GOC, Serpents Hand, Chaos Insurgency, Marshall Carter and Dark, MCF, UIU or even the Are we cool yet organizations.
It's been 7 months and no sequel yet. 😞 I want him to cover the Adeptus Mechanicus meeting The Church Of The Broken God, or what if Yaldabaoth meets Nurgle?
22:40 "We's da floor Boyz. We keep da wierd gits locked up. But not killa, cause wierd gits could be dakka."
The only way I can see shy guy dying is a psykers
Shy guy could take a space marine, but it’d take awhile. But this fights real either imperium wins, or both the foundation and the imperium lose. Also depends on the throughput of the portal. Like if it can at best fit a tank then the regular governments could likely handle it until the marines showed up.
Also that one mtf that are just video game characters could take on orks, tyranids, and probably drucharii. Only thing they couldn’t would be things they don’t want to kill. Up until a tech priest finds the laptop they run on.
The foundation I do think has some methods to potentially defeat the imperium using anomalies they do have under control in the right circumstances if you want to take them as canon. One notable thing that comes to mind is SCP-001 Kate McTiriss's Proposal which could completely rewrite reality. SCP-001 Roger's proposal would also take care of this. Another SCP if taken as canon could be used is SCP-3309 which could be used to completely delete the 40k universe. Use of Scp-4001 could probably be used to have someone find a way to save earth by writing that they will into their book. SCP-5094 could probably be used to find ways of stopping the imperium. Some clever manipulation of SCP-239 would probably be able to wipe out the entire 40k universe. SCP-582 could be used to basically wipe out anything they could send against the foundation, something similar applies to SCP-2950. Large scale ships could be dealt with using SCP-2501. This is not at all an exhaustive list.
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21:53 I was think the same thing hippity hoppity I have come to steal our property
You touched on it a bit Old Man but those entities that could wipe out the 40k Galaxy with a snap of their fingers would have to consider the 40k factions an actual threat, which given their abilities they probably wouldn't. If they took notice of them at all it would probably be the same way we observe that an insect does in fact exist.
A lot of planets in 40k have shields that prevent bombardment. Cadia had one that had to be destroyed before chaos could fully commit. Terra almost certainly has one.
I think the SCP Foundation would lose but the destruction of the Foundation is the destruction of humanity & subsequently the universe. So, I think if the Imperium doesn't want to end up trying to fight new kinds of massive problems from that future mess, the two should make an uneasy alliance. But I know something like that is impossible when dealing with the Imperium.
SCP 3812 "a voice behind me" would be humanities best chance. Even if 40k wiped the planet clean of life, they would still need to contend with a petaphysical schizophrenic reality-bender. 2000 (or any other number of reality structure rebuilding SCPs) can then easily rebuild.
31:05
Exactly what me and my friends do. We're essentially the fanfiction version of the Black Library of our community, and one of the rules we have regarding crossovers is that we have to read and respect both source materials.
Have one of the reality benders move the portal to near scp-001 the gate guardian, it can deatomize any material within a kilometer radius of itself. It'd turn the portal into a space marine blender.
I just imagine an Ork in a lab coat and with glasses. Also Trayzin would love the foundation with all it's interesting "exhibits", he would also be a valuable asset since he literally has pokeballs and can put things in stasis which would be fantastic to contain many dangerous scps.
i would see it ending in a stalemate at best. worst case the SCP universe would win in that they have a lot more freedom in how the universe is written with each of the articles being both the same but not in the same universe as each other and if one universe falls that is just one universe of many others. i could see a story of the 40k universe invading the SCP-1689 universe and doing something stupid and making runaway portals that flood the Warhammer universe in potato's with no way to stop the endless tide of starch.🤣
12:08 096 tears through them like butter excerpted from the wiki article “it is capable of destroying any known material”
To be honest the closest foundation cannon that are even somewhat similar to the Imperium of man would be scp 6001. Even then the foundation in 6001 would more than likely make peace with the imperium rather than war
Isnt there a scp that can heal any/all wounds no matter how bad? wht if they offered that to be used on Big E?
Fun fact:
The mention of SCP-6659 “METAGNOSTIC“. This SCP is part of an amazing series that is called ADMONITION.
SCP-6820 "TERMINATION ATTEMPT" is the first part of this series.
The second is SCP-6747 “CHAOS THEORY“, which involves pataphysics, which itself is the idea of “our reality is fiction“.
The third is, of course, SCP-6659 “METAGNOSTIC“ which involves the discussion of deific entites or gods in layman's terms.
The fourth is SCP-6488 "EIGHTH COMMANDMENT", which involves AI's and technology.
I think some SCPs would prove more effective than others, but on the whole the foundation doesn't have the scp quantity to handle the scale of the 40k universe. They have some neat tricks that would stall and maybe even take down a ship or two, but an entire fleet or military force would be too much.
They have access to anomalies capable of erasing universes and a book that changes reality to exactly what you write into it. For example, write everyone is as powerful and experienced as a Space Marine, and suddenly everyone becomes as powerful as a Space Marine.
If the SCP plans to contain a hive fleet, they will need the Back Rooms.
Or they could just show a Synapse critter 096's face, which means every Tyranid everywhere will have seen its face.
@@eXpriestwith 096 there is a problem with the rate of killing, it has to physically run to the target, murder it, do the redacted to it and move on to the next one. Tyranids can easily outproduce its rate of killing. It would be an analogous situation to someone like Vulcan or demon Angron fighting a hive fleet. Tyranids can't kill them permanently but can ignore them on a large scale, it's just one, be it extremely powerful, fighter.
But the hivemind thing is an interesting point. I would expect the hivemind to be at least somewhat resilient against more common memetics, which can at least in theory be resisted with sufficient willpower, but there are some particularly nasty ones that can mess up the Tyranid hivemind
Also, why fix the golden theonw when the funni rwd pills can instantly geal the god to full health
There is one group of interest that could survive, and maybe even thrive in warhammer40k.
The church of the second hytoth, which is basically 'what if the Tau were actually khorne worshippers and had insane psyker powers?'
Hey old man would the Mobile Task forces be fit to be in an inquisitors retinue?
SCP-079 would probably do more damage to 40k than the Men of Iron
Mr. Deeds: "I have aquired your requested aid in repairing the Golden Throne. It was not an easy task and what I offered him in exchange was costly but in the end well worth it. Here is Trazyn the Infinite and the cost is a companion of the emperor."
SCP-173 Revised Entry could be a legion buster, not to mention that SCP-173’s true the Koitern could take on the Chaos Gods considering how the Scarlet King feared it.
Oh yeah this one is going to be good! 40k destroys SCP on most levels fundamentally but some SCPs are simultaneously able to annihilate the entirety of 40k's known cosmos, not just the Chaos Gods.
The foundation can’t control them tho so it depends on how annoyed they are by the imperium or the invading force
@@flyingspinners1 tbh imperium will most likely annoy them enough to act 😅
As much as I'd like to agree with you, the chaos gods would actually step in if they think this would ruin their game.
@@ultrastormvalentine5483 and you think gods from SCP will just sit their and do nothing? If I have to tell one god that is available if the war does pop up is Mary Nakayama, from SCP-001 kate.she absolutely on human side is available. We could also use scp-6952 a book that can give instruct to create any anomalies weapon and armor with this the Foundation managed to created many sick one of them is armor that make the wearer completely immune to physical damage and of course the potential of that SCP is much higher.
@@DJ1125katus I don't think it's really a fair assesment to make when you actually consider the SCP foundation to be one gaint overglorified fanfiction, with several broken and overpowered OC'S that can only matched by the Sonic/Minecraft/Dragonball and etc... OC'S of other people.
Of course OC'S... Sorry I mean SCP's are going to win a fight against more flushed out characters with genuine character progression/plot and actual timeline for us to go off of. What did you think was going to happen, these guys were created to be broken, that's how most OC's are.
People from the SCP fandom want to talk about other fandoms and how they're being bad faithed with their debates when they come out of nowhere and start debating on why the their fandoms resident OC'S stronger then the guy who isn't an OC.
The claw that can crush planets could certainly take out their ships. But not only is that dependant on line of sight, making ships elsewhere over the planet safe, but watching ther ships being flattened inexplicably might panic them to just virus bomb the planet.
Here is a fun idea, Dr.Bright is Malador back when he was a young man. Dr. Clef is the Emperor before discover his power.
The SCP foundation would probably be a similar organization to the Sigilites if they were somehow in 40k canon imo
The difference is that the things that SCP foundation guarded can potentially delete anything in 40Kverse entirely, including Chaos, Tyrannid, C'tan, etc
Realistically both lose. Someone from the 40k verse mess with something and unknowingly release some sort of god. Not to mention if they tried to do something as stupid trying to kill 682.
They once sent 682 to the sun.
It came back with flaming wings.
Imo, the better question isn't who would win, or even could. But more so, what would the interactions be?
As mentioned, some of the more absurd SCP's might look at 40k and rub their palms, (or equivalent) together and have a field day with the sheer insanity of that reality. One absurd idea could be one such SCP could become so powerful, that it would force the IoM and Chaos to work together. Maybe even the other Xeno's.
Or, perhaps even seal off the Warp and effectively send Humanity into a second Age of Strife, and this time it might be the final nail in the coffin.
I know that I'm really late, and I understand where you're coming from and such! But, I do believe that everything in The SCP Foundation comes from a Multiverse of multiple different events realities, etc. So, along with The SCP Foundation's MTF would go from basic day soldiers to being able to take down gods-[In some stories within The SCP Foundation "canon"/canon and such]. But yeah, I really do believe that The SCP Foundation Multiverse would have multiple different events, many different canons, and a lot of many other factors. But, since The SCP Foundation has always came down to the many, many, many, many different events within the "canon"/canon, and overall. I do believe that The SCP Foundation would win because of the fact that even without The English Branch of The SCP Foundation would probably have a decent chance against The Warhammer 40k verse, and it would also depend on the different branches of The SCP Foundation verses-[The English Branch, The Chinese Branch, The Japanese Branch, The Russian Branch, and many of the other branches] that would have further expanded The SCP Foundation Multiverse as a whole. But yeah, that's what I have with the "canon"/canon, and the "extended canon"/extended canon which would once again futher deep dive and strengthen The SCP Foundation verse/Multiverse as a whole such as depending on if The 05 Council has powers and not-[plus, The 05 Council's own MTF soldiers] and in most cases they do. Along with The Administrator, and his very own MTF soldiers. Oh, and The Ethics Committee with their very own MTF soldiers. Plus in most canon's The Global Occult Coalition, The Chaos Insurgency, and the many other SCP Foundation verse human and "human" groups could actually probably defeat Warhammer 40k verse. Which again, it would have-had been decided on the "canon"/canon, and "extended canon"/extended canon of course. But, overall if we would have used The SCP Foundation verse as a full power as well as using The Warhammer 40k verse being at its full power with all lore, all "canon"/canon and "extended canon"/extended canon, I would have to say that I'm going with The SCP Foundation verse. But, if it was any other way. I would have said that Warhammer 40k would have given The SCP Foundation verse a bloody nose. But, The SCP Foundation would have also given The Warhammer 40k a bloody nose too. But, that's what I atleast think if I get deeper and deeper into the actual lore of course
Edit: The SCP Foundation also has access to The Swann Entities which are basically The SCP Foundation writers and such. But, yeah thats atleast what I still think of course
Now I want to see Dr. Bright become an ogryn.
Hopped on as soon as possible
I think it's interesting. Both are extremely diverse and expansive. And both are very abstract in its metaphysics.
A cool discussion overall.
I'm confident in the Alpharius5 capabilities to defuse this whole situation.
20:42 SCP-079 wouldn’t be able to escape its old computer prison without humanity meaning it likely would work with foundation it could easily hack into it
8:31 the GOC even in a more base form could definitely do something there’s no way the species of 40K would figure out how to penetrate Ganzir the GOC‘s biggest rival the SCP foundation in SCP 5000 took a very long time to figure that out there’s no way someone from a completely different universe would know how to do that
I think the biggest issue is you cannot even rely on 40k to be basically rational. The SCP could certainly credibly say "hell mutually assured destruction here. We have enough ways to ensure everything dies and if you guys don't back off we're going to point them at the portal". The Imperium of Man would immediately get all "God-Emperor will protect", Chaos would burst out laughing, Orks would just be annoyed they couldn't fight the MAD, etc. The Eldar would be sat there screaming at everyone in the galaxy to please be sane for a moment but everyone would ignore them because they are alcoholics shouting for sobriety. The Tau aren't relevant, it doesn't matter what they think.
Does anyone have a link to the 40k vs Star Wars thing? That sounds interesting and I cannot find it amongst the deluge of 40k vs SW stuff on the internet.
SCP has one advantage though. Warhammer is a thing in scp universe so if a portal to warhammer to be opened they would know ALL the information about it by default.
The foundation could also use SCP-159 to hide because its literally impossible to damage not even a scratch.
33:34 it wouldn’t matter if they pulled the trigger or not since if the foundation was destroyed, then the anomalies would simply break out and destroy the invaders in really it’s a double edged sword for the 40K universe. They either win by subjugating earth and always have the constant threat of the anomalies or they destroy the foundation and get destroyed themselves then there’s the third and final option the SCP foundation wins.
Scp 682+nids = everyone dies
If the solidarity is considered head Cannon by you then well I'm a fire in my laser time
Your thinking of the shadowkeepers shield host & Lockwarden is evidently the canon title of their leader. 682 meeting the Tyranids would be a nightmare scenario any way it turns out.
mtf tau 5 samsara are a pretty solid bunch , no space marines but no slouches ether
I wonder how the specific named canons of the scp universe would fare.
682 alone would erase the verse
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Not even close.
@@Necrodzentelmenel1 it could depending on the circumstances like if they manage to somehow destroy its avatar six 6820-A would simply erase the concept of 40K
But the likelihood of that happening in the first place is extremely low
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That relies on a misunderstanding of the Noosphere.
Not that this is impossible per se, but it would surely take time. Even 3125 took it's time to take over the Foundation's narrative.
they would want tech so the tau
It really just depends on what version of the foundation you chose if you chose the strongest version yeah of course their gonna wipe the floor with 40K .
But even at a more base level foundation they have plenty of anomalies to defend against the 40K universe.
They could use SCP 1440, The Old Man from Nowhere, who causes earthquakes and other damage to any human civilization. Looking for a lone human on a hive world would be worse than finding a needle in a haystack.
Or they could use A Machine (SCP 882 ) to take out any warships as it would begin to absorb their metal/technology.
And what about The Gate Guardian? Pretty sure it would see the 40k universe as an affront to Heaven.
Also? If Holy Terra is analogous to Earth, perhaps getting someone to open the cave containing SCP 2935, O Death? Seriously, I would use this option if we were invaded by the Chaos Gods or the Tyrannids or the Genestealer Cults. Urgh.
Great video and discussion!😊👍
2935 is a terrible idea because it literally kills everything in earth. Problem with it is that it does not remember or recognise Warhammer characters so you are basically killing yourself.
13:09 nah 682 would just say “NUH UH” like always
If they consume it then 683 takes control of them if it consumes them it will destroy them and absorb their properties
Everyone's just talking about the Imperium but, fail to consider if it was a faction like the Thousand Sons, Magnus would have a field day with the SCP foundation let alone Tzeentzch its self. And not to mention the other 3 chaos gods. I have no question the Imperium would struggle but the chaos gods are on a whole another level. Question though, once the two realms were connected would the warp then spill over to the universe which the SCP is in? If so, a reality bender wouldn't be able to just end it at will and would ultimately be doomed for the above reason. The chaos gods would just reside in the new universe and continue to mess stuff up indefinitely
The foundation would simply just bring 055 to 579 like they did multiple times before most notably in the SCP 5000 universe so the portal never opened in the first place
Ok ok hear me out
The foundation finds someway to have an alternative reality open wether that be cooperation with 106 or using 3008 or something else.
then they put a bunch plants, all the humans and other things that would be needed to restart life on Earth in that alternate reality they close that opening.
then they have a d-class go into 2935 and come back out to kill all life in the SCP foundation universe since the portal would still be open it’s safe to assume the affect would travel through the portal and kill everyone in the 40k universe.
then the SCP foundation reopens their gateway and returns to revive Earth and while it sacrifices alien life I think the SCP foundation would feel it to be worth it.
Trazyn and dr clef would have a ball messing with people 😆
I really hate to say this but there are few universes that are capable of not only taking on but also winning against the 40k universe, and this is coming from a hardcore Star Wars, Star Trek fanboy.
Scp need goc and the broken god and prep time and nukes and military and all scps
And by the way 40k and scp should work together
Scarlet king would become a new chaos god also the empire of man would take the universe for there own a new timline
28:44 Also let's be honest if a new faction suddenly appeared and wiped out holy Terra sure mankind would be absolutely fucked in the long term but I'm sure that they'd make sure that faction went down with them.
That's not even taking into account that some factions would likely put aside their differences long enough to destroy that faction before going back to killing each other.
I could easily see the Remnants of Mankind, the Tau, the Necrons & the Orks deciding to destroy this new faction.
The Remnants to avenge the god emperor
The Tau because for it's for the greater good that this weapon is destroyed or controlled by them
The Necrons, specifically Trayzn, cause he'd want it as part of his collection. Hell knowing Trayzn he'd probably save the god emperor just to add him to his collection if he was aware of it coming.
'da orks 'cos dey love a gud fight
I wish more people applied the law of averages you were talking about. I ended up falling out of the star wars vs 40k series by a fan with too much time because his comments section is a cesspit of bad-faith imperium fanboys. It's crazy.
the SCP foundation fight the imperium hell no destroy the imperium and everything else probably
Scp 001 the Factory
Woooo!!
the only real universe to compete is stellaris and only reason would be if the entities of the shroud got involved its version more or less of the warp as well as its lore is heavily bassed on warhammer and lovecraftian stuff as well as some crisis potentially like the pytherium scurge in stellaris. mayyybe still and depends on alot of factors and hard to say as even the shroud seems to also have limited connection to stellaris universe but its hard to say but its only real universe i see having a potential chance at war at least to hold back for periods of time tho and again only becuase its so heavily similer in many things to warhammer and why its my fav game for a 4x strat game :D just that at least things will fight for the stellaris universe without needing much cohersion and my largest issue with scp and warhammer is if the scp foundation can contain the 40k universe can contain them and prob contain many that the scp foundation cant contain so anything they have contained is out the question right away if invaded
I left a comment on this video a few days ago explaining that the Tau would be one of the worst options for us as human beings and a Tau fanboy tried to tell me that most of the Tau's bullshit was actually "Imperial Propaganda."
And that's when I knew he got all of his knowledge from Reddit.
To be fair, some of it is, like that sterilisation thing. That was only present in the DOW games, but suddenly, everyone acts like it's always been written.
Would Scp 6659 be able to kill the chaos gods?
Scp 343, that flying raindeer, Mekhane, Yaldabaoth to SCP 3812 can delete chaos gods in an instant
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Definitely not 343 he's weak.
mate foundation in year 40k would be the most if not the only most OP universe out there left. not even dragon ball or others be able to compete.
Throw samsara at them
Can we just agree that scp is the stronger verse by faaaaaaar
Oh definitely, but The Foundation is NOT where that strength lies. The Foundation would fall, easily, but the consequences would also bring down The Imperium, and possibly the rest of the 40K Universe.
@@involuntaryanalysisThe foundation I do think has some methods to potentially defeat the imperium using anomalies they do have under control in the right circumstances if you want to take them as canon. One notable thing that comes to mind is SCP-001 Kate McTiriss's Proposal which could completely rewrite reality. SCP-001 Roger's proposal would also take care of this. Another SCP if taken as canon could be used is SCP-3309 which could be used to completely delete the 40k universe. Use of Scp-4001 could probably be used to have someone find a way to save earth by writing that they will into their book. SCP-5094 could probably be used to find ways of stopping the imperium. Some clever manipulation of SCP-239 would probably be able to wipe out the entire 40k universe. SCP-582 could be used to basically wipe out anything they could send against the foundation, something similar applies to SCP-2950. Large scale ships could be dealt with using SCP-2501. This is not at all an exhaustive list.
@@involuntaryanalysis the foundation itself, could wipe the floor with the 40K universe, if we’re using its strongest form
Reality bender?, Scranton, reality anchor
Tech far above them? Reverse engineer it with the help of anomalies that have omniscience or close to it.
FTL travel? Well the foundation in its strongest form goes millions if not billions of time faster then FTL travel (as seen by the SCP 001 proposal literally titled “the true 001”)
Etc
But the original video seems to be using a more base version of the foundation something you’d see in most media
This ain't even fair.
There's an scp that can change the narrative itself.
One is literally just the writers.
This is working under the assumption that metanarrative anomalies are off the table.
@@involuntaryanalysis And some mainstream scps like 682 and 096 straight up have more plot armor than GW's infamous *named characters*
@@involuntaryanalysis 682's adaptation makes Flood, Zerg and Tyranid adaptation combined look pathetic while the Aragami are over here wondering if they can jump his bones.
@@starhammer5247 Then there's The Vero-tut, from the 1548 rewrite: The Star, The Hateful, UNIVERSE eating entities ranging from hundreds of kilometers in relative size, to tens of thousands, with some even bigger, which make the Tyranids, zerg, and flood combined look like a pathetic joke, hell, one of THE SMALLEST of them one-shotted Pluto and began absorbing Mars in it's entirety, until The Sun hit it with a directed gamma ray burst that was thaumaturgically enhanced.. The Foundation, and likely most other GOI's would be beyond screwed, BUT their destruction would do SO much more harm to The Imperium, and the rest of the galaxy, than good.