Been using Cottonelle for years. Recently took a cruise, Royal Caribbean warns against non flushable wipes and sells Cottonelle in their vending machines.
The main issue I have with the ones that don't disintegrate isn't with your house's plumbing but in the city sewers and sewer treatment plants where they end up clogging and gets in the way of the regular treatment. So it is less about your own individual house and more about the strain it puts on our city systems and wallets, which also bounces back to all of us. There are great documentaries about just that available on youtube.
yeah, our weasel city decided to add onto our water bill recycling charge and charge for cleaning storm sewers which is totally separate from our sanitary sewers here so i suspect they are trying to recoup cost of cleaning sewers for wipes because they had crew go around cleaning couple years ago for first time in 30 years i have ever seen them
I have used the Dude Wipes for years and have had no problems in an 80 year old home. They are fragrance free, no lanolin (which i am allergic to), and they are also available in individual travel packs. You have confirmed what i already suspected… that it’s the right product for me. Great video, thanks!
@@RogerWakefieldI used to but then I put an ostomy bag on my belly. The reason I was forced to use them was I was going up to 50 times a day before I put the bag on my belly.. how much it is it through the night. 18 years I never got more than 2 hours of sleep per night. I called them basically naps. And if I didn't wake up in time I was up running the wash taking a shower because it's bad as it gets. Charmin where my favorite as they were the gentlest on my rear side when I was going so many times you try to wipe that many times you'll be bleeding.
Used good wipes until they went up in $$ on Amazon! Love them. Then switched to dude wipes. But currently use the Nice n Clean🙌 They were the best bang for the buck and I believe the ingredients aren’t bad. That’s always a plus! Thank you for this video!!!!🙏 I’ve always been curious about flushable wipes and if there’s certain ones that flush best over others?!
I feel the big issue here is a survivorship bias. Plumbers are only going to see the circumstances when it fails. If dozens of people are flushing dozens of brands, plumbers will never be called for the good brands. Plumbers will only see wipes that fail to break down. So all the plumbers who say they only see bad wipes are absolutely correct. Good wipes get no service calls. What i would like to see is how they are decomposed to mimic a septic system. Are they going to be eaten like paper or will a lot of residues not break down.
I'm still not in a hurry to switch to "flushable" wipes instead of sticking with toilet paper. _"Probably won't destroy your plumbing"_ isn't exactly a great marketing pitch. If I'm gonna switch to anything it'll be a bidet.
I've used Cottonelle before and they were great. Unfortunately, during the pandemic you couldn't buy them even if your life depended on it. Ended up switching to Dude Wipes, and I've not had any problem with them - but I do follow the instructions and flush only one at a time...
Cheaper than a month of flushable wipes and way cheaper than calling a plumber: get a bidet wand and never pay for toilet paper or wipes again, and have a much cleaner butt!
If your house has pvc drains, you should be fine, the main problem I have seen is either they don’t give themselves a courtesy flush and they try and flush half a pack down or they have old rusted cast iron that is going to grab every little bit as it goes down
Thanks for the video. I like these but don't use them because I have a septic. What I would have liked to have seen in your video is the liquid being used to "break down" the wipe, to represent septic system liquid. Maybe use fresh water, as you did, then utilize water with bacteria/enzymes/yeast and see what happens with them after they enter the enzyme enriched liquid. However, thanks for the video.
My experience in Iraq says absolutely not flushable. It was like putting rope in our lift stations (14). The base commander had to shut down using them. Or burn up all our pumps.
@@RogerWakefield i wonder how much a power flow toilet has an impact on how quick they break down. Also, any way you could do a septic system representation on the top 5 brands. I myself use cottonelle, but would still be interested to see. Also, heat. I know cottonelle breaks down in the package if left in warm, not even hot temperatures. That is a good sign. Thanks
I find it amusing that the cottonelle has tested with plumbers on label seems an odd wording do they wrap up a plumber in them or what you would think it would be tested by plumbers.
I recently had my septic tank pumped out and the septic guy say they consider them flushable if they can make it to the septic tank but they don't break down once they're in the septic tank. Biodegradable my rear side..
The tests are supposed to be: FG501.R1(18) - Toilet Bowl & Drain-Line Clearance Test FG502.R1(18) - Slosh Box Disintegration Test FG503.R1(18) - Household Pump Test FG504.R1(18) - Settling Test FG505.R1(18) - Aerobic (A) Biodisintegration/(B) Biodegradation Tests FG506.R1(18) - Anaerobic (A) Biodisintegration/ (B) Biodegradation Tests FG507.R1(18) - Municipal Sewage Pump Test so the septic guy was uninformed because it's not just ''flushable'' if they make it to the septic tank According to this method, about anything would be flushables, including plastic toys, underwear, and so on So yeah, it's really not the standards used to claim it's ''flushable''
i dont think the flush test is creating a high enough water pressure to really pull the wipes through for this test to be spot on, maybe assist might help? I think that would create a much more realistic situation. additionally, you can put most of these wipes into a cup of water and slight spoon swirl will dissolve them. at least, cottonelle and amazon basics did for me. of course theyre still stronger than toilet paper but i dont think theyre in the worst place for septic either.
My people, watch the linked video. In context, this makes sense. Y'all are projecting thoughts for what he's testing and mostly are wrong. Watch the longer video.
I hate hate hate wipes! I have a sewer pump basin made by liberty pumps and when someone flushes wipes it clogs the pump and burns it up! It’s just a sewer pump not a grinder pump but I don’t think it would handle wipes.
As a plumber I must say for the love of all that is holy, don’t flush anything but toilet paper! Do you know how many pipe clogs I’ve snaked out in both residential and commercial pipes due to these things? I can’t even count the number. Perhaps in the triple digits. They are the bane of my existence. Further more these things collect in your septics system and break down like never. Neither do tampons ladies, I’ve snaked many of those out as well. If you have to use wet wipes please throw them out! Your plumber will thank you
@@RogerWakefield I’ve done residential, with most of the pipes being cast iron, or terra cotta. I did three years a plumber for a hospital and now I’m at a large manufacturing plant as their plumber. Most of the drains in these facilities are cast iron as well, with some being pvc, or galvanized. I’m in NY but not the city. Even if the wipes don’t cause the clog they really exacerbate the issue and I’ve pulled dozens of wipes out of the lines before the clog breaks. They advertise as “flushable” and sure they do flush but what they do later can be the problem. Some septics I’ve been on when pumped have a thick layer of wipes that just won’t break down. But even worse look into what happens for the treatment and sewer crews, where large compounded “icebergs” of wet wipes form and they have to deal with it. It’s pretty wild!
@tylertyler6418 I wonder if those problems are from baby wipes that aren't flushable though? I do fire inspections, so I've seen how a lot of people choose to live, and I can guarantee a lot of filthy people don't care if a wipe is flushable or not. I use cottonelle flushable wipes in my house and I've never had an issue.
Or you could have your large intestine removed due to Crohn's and colitis and have an ostomy bag on your belly that's all liquid. Only needs a smallest amount of Tp.. backside has been sewn up😢
This is irresponsible advice!!!! Not really. Great comparison and really educational. I just didn’t see that claim anywhere in the comments, so I thought that I’d help meet the status quo.
My wife had picked up some of the 'dude' wipes, but I wasn't impressed with how they came apart. When I tried the Nice ones, for my shake test, they seemed to turn into a loose pulp that really wasn't holding together at all (I had posted about it on your subreddit).
Roger, they will flush, but they may not make it all of the way, and when they do make it all of the way, they cause problems at processing facilities. Have you ever heard of Traptex? Check them out. It is a device with blades that is installed in the bowl at the front of the trap that will allow everything to go through except for materials too tough for the blades to shred - mainly wipes and paper towels. They may cost as much as the bowl you’re putting it in, but in the end, they are worth the cost. While they are not recommended for installation in hospitals due to the danger of some lunatic putting their hand in the bowl and cutting themselves, that’s where you can find them most, but there is almost always a sign on the wall warning people to not put their hands into the toilet due to this device and the risk of injury. These things are a modern marvel.
I don't think there's one flushable wipe that's flushable?. This is at the very beginning of the video before I'm watching it but that's my theory. When I use them they go into the garbage toilet paper is the only thing I put in the toilet.
Just buy a toilet add-on bidet y'all! SO much cleaner for you and for the toilet room. You don't have to keep all these bags of wipes and a trash can full of nasty poop filled wipes. If you buy a bidet it'll clean your poo, you use a little paper and EVERYTHING goes into the toilet. Simple
Been using Cottonelle for years. Recently took a cruise, Royal Caribbean warns against non flushable wipes and sells Cottonelle in their vending machines.
The main issue I have with the ones that don't disintegrate isn't with your house's plumbing but in the city sewers and sewer treatment plants where they end up clogging and gets in the way of the regular treatment. So it is less about your own individual house and more about the strain it puts on our city systems and wallets, which also bounces back to all of us. There are great documentaries about just that available on youtube.
Thus causing a fat berg in the sewers
Not my problem
yeah, our weasel city decided to add onto our water bill recycling charge and charge for cleaning storm sewers which is totally separate from our sanitary sewers here so i suspect they are trying to recoup cost of cleaning sewers for wipes because they had crew go around cleaning couple years ago for first time in 30 years i have ever seen them
@@kittydogDiamond lol... Turdbergs taking over the city sewer
I have used the Dude Wipes for years and have had no problems in an 80 year old home.
They are fragrance free, no lanolin (which i am allergic to), and they are also available in individual travel packs.
You have confirmed what i already suspected… that it’s the right product for me.
Great video, thanks!
Excited to see the results!
Do you use flushable wipes?
@@RogerWakefieldI used to but then I put an ostomy bag on my belly. The reason I was forced to use them was I was going up to 50 times a day before I put the bag on my belly.. how much it is it through the night. 18 years I never got more than 2 hours of sleep per night. I called them basically naps. And if I didn't wake up in time I was up running the wash taking a shower because it's bad as it gets. Charmin where my favorite as they were the gentlest on my rear side when I was going so many times you try to wipe that many times you'll be bleeding.
Now that’s rough…
Used good wipes until they went up in $$ on Amazon! Love them. Then switched to dude wipes. But currently use the Nice n Clean🙌 They were the best bang for the buck and I believe the ingredients aren’t bad. That’s always a plus!
Thank you for this video!!!!🙏 I’ve always been curious about flushable wipes and if there’s certain ones that flush best over others?!
Thank you for this. I feel safe using Cottonelle into my Septic Tank after this test, exactly the info I was seeking.
I trust this man in large part because of his mustache. But all joking aside, excellent content and lip Caterpillar
I’m all seriousness, thanks
Caterpillips... for the win
I feel the big issue here is a survivorship bias. Plumbers are only going to see the circumstances when it fails. If dozens of people are flushing dozens of brands, plumbers will never be called for the good brands. Plumbers will only see wipes that fail to break down. So all the plumbers who say they only see bad wipes are absolutely correct. Good wipes get no service calls.
What i would like to see is how they are decomposed to mimic a septic system. Are they going to be eaten like paper or will a lot of residues not break down.
That is a very good way of looking at it!
I'm still not in a hurry to switch to "flushable" wipes instead of sticking with toilet paper.
_"Probably won't destroy your plumbing"_ isn't exactly a great marketing pitch.
If I'm gonna switch to anything it'll be a bidet.
I REALLY like your comment.
great vid roger
I’m glad you enjoyed it
Wouldn’t it be a more true test with adding yeast? I’m not a plumber, but am curious.
Thank you so much for doing this bc I have been fighting with my roommates about it
😂😂
Cottonel is the absolute best
I've used Cottonelle before and they were great. Unfortunately, during the pandemic you couldn't buy them even if your life depended on it. Ended up switching to Dude Wipes, and I've not had any problem with them - but I do follow the instructions and flush only one at a time...
Are those the same jars you used for the fabuloso tests?
Different jars😅
I thought Ecosoul (sp?) was second best after Cottonelle.
Cheaper than a month of flushable wipes and way cheaper than calling a plumber: get a bidet wand and never pay for toilet paper or wipes again, and have a much cleaner butt!
It's not difficult to keep your pipes from clogging. Use toilet paper first, then once clean use a wipe and dispose in trash can.
If your house has pvc drains, you should be fine, the main problem I have seen is either they don’t give themselves a courtesy flush and they try and flush half a pack down or they have old rusted cast iron that is going to grab every little bit as it goes down
Great video thanks
You bet! Do you use flushable wipes?
Just shared this video with my friend in Indonesia.
Thanks for the video. I like these but don't use them because I have a septic. What I would have liked to have seen in your video is the liquid being used to "break down" the wipe, to represent septic system liquid. Maybe use fresh water, as you did, then utilize water with bacteria/enzymes/yeast and see what happens with them after they enter the enzyme enriched liquid. However, thanks for the video.
My experience in Iraq says absolutely not flushable. It was like putting rope in our lift stations (14). The base commander had to shut down using them. Or burn up all our pumps.
Is the shaking to represent the flush of a toilet?
Yes I mention that in the video
@@RogerWakefield i wonder how much a power flow toilet has an impact on how quick they break down. Also, any way you could do a septic system representation on the top 5 brands. I myself use cottonelle, but would still be interested to see. Also, heat. I know cottonelle breaks down in the package if left in warm, not even hot temperatures. That is a good sign. Thanks
My wife thought you were hulk hogan teaching me about plumbing
Maybe I am🤔😅
@@RogerWakefield 😂😂 we laughed a solid 4 minutes over that because as soon as she said it I realized why too
@@RogerWakefield” Let me tell you something about brother about these Dude Wipes…”
I find it amusing that the cottonelle has tested with plumbers on label seems an odd wording do they wrap up a plumber in them or what you would think it would be tested by plumbers.
I love my Dude Wipes! ❤
I use the Walmart wipes and I am doing the tests myself to check them against the ones you tested. It tears easily, no
I recently had my septic tank pumped out and the septic guy say they consider them flushable if they can make it to the septic tank but they don't break down once they're in the septic tank. Biodegradable my rear side..
Honestly if you have a septic tank it feels like you can't flush anything down the toilet because of how many x factors you have to consider.
anything synthetic will never decomp enough for a septic system
The tests are supposed to be:
FG501.R1(18) - Toilet Bowl & Drain-Line Clearance Test
FG502.R1(18) - Slosh Box Disintegration Test
FG503.R1(18) - Household Pump Test
FG504.R1(18) - Settling Test
FG505.R1(18) - Aerobic (A) Biodisintegration/(B) Biodegradation Tests
FG506.R1(18) - Anaerobic (A) Biodisintegration/ (B) Biodegradation Tests
FG507.R1(18) - Municipal Sewage Pump Test
so the septic guy was uninformed because it's not just ''flushable'' if they make it to the septic tank
According to this method, about anything would be flushables, including plastic toys, underwear, and so on
So yeah, it's really not the standards used to claim it's ''flushable''
@@happysugarwaifu432 so much information!!
Pls try again with the cheapest HD glacier bay or even toilet previous to 1980. Curious to see the speed of flush n break apart
Asking the real questions...
We need answers
@@RogerWakefield you need more pipes to fix.
All joking aside, thanks for the video!
i dont think the flush test is creating a high enough water pressure to really pull the wipes through for this test to be spot on, maybe assist might help? I think that would create a much more realistic situation. additionally, you can put most of these wipes into a cup of water and slight spoon swirl will dissolve them. at least, cottonelle and amazon basics did for me. of course theyre still stronger than toilet paper but i dont think theyre in the worst place for septic either.
Have you tested these wipes before? Good suggestions, thanks!
My people, watch the linked video. In context, this makes sense. Y'all are projecting thoughts for what he's testing and mostly are wrong. Watch the longer video.
You should do Kirkland Brand. They are the best bang for the buck and I've been using them for years. #costco
Came to see if this one was tested lol
I'm really fighting the urge to say "Roger should be flushed with pride over this video...." It's a struggle not to say it....
I hear you about finding something good and sticking with it..
I hate hate hate wipes! I have a sewer pump basin made by liberty pumps and when someone flushes wipes it clogs the pump and burns it up! It’s just a sewer pump not a grinder pump but I don’t think it would handle wipes.
As a plumber I must say for the love of all that is holy, don’t flush anything but toilet paper! Do you know how many pipe clogs I’ve snaked out in both residential and commercial pipes due to these things? I can’t even count the number. Perhaps in the triple digits. They are the bane of my existence. Further more these things collect in your septics system and break down like never. Neither do tampons ladies, I’ve snaked many of those out as well. If you have to use wet wipes please throw them out! Your plumber will thank you
What kind of system are you flushing them from? Is it cast iron pipes? PVC? We’ve had no problems with them
@@RogerWakefield I’ve done residential, with most of the pipes being cast iron, or terra cotta. I did three years a plumber for a hospital and now I’m at a large manufacturing plant as their plumber. Most of the drains in these facilities are cast iron as well, with some being pvc, or galvanized. I’m in NY but not the city. Even if the wipes don’t cause the clog they really exacerbate the issue and I’ve pulled dozens of wipes out of the lines before the clog breaks. They advertise as “flushable” and sure they do flush but what they do later can be the problem. Some septics I’ve been on when pumped have a thick layer of wipes that just won’t break down.
But even worse look into what happens for the treatment and sewer crews, where large compounded “icebergs” of wet wipes form and they have to deal with it. It’s pretty wild!
@@RogerWakefield not to mention, I’ve had several grinder pumps get the blades clogged from wet wipes and the pump toilets get wrecked too
@tylertyler6418 I wonder if those problems are from baby wipes that aren't flushable though? I do fire inspections, so I've seen how a lot of people choose to live, and I can guarantee a lot of filthy people don't care if a wipe is flushable or not. I use cottonelle flushable wipes in my house and I've never had an issue.
Dudes wipes clogged my Toilet bad. I thought they were good but a plumber pulled out a Huge wod that looked like a Full TP Roll. Terrible
Reject paper embrace bidet
you still gotta wipe your ass afterwards unless you just walk around with wet ass
Or you could have your large intestine removed due to Crohn's and colitis and have an ostomy bag on your belly that's all liquid. Only needs a smallest amount of Tp.. backside has been sewn up😢
That's what I'm saying! My family of 4 only bought toilet paper from Costco once last year and I got two women living with me! Lol wife and daughter.
@jeffwolf8018 sadly they will probably be my future with Crohns...
i moved into a room with a private bathroom and ordered up a bidet, turns out the toilet is a French curve and I can't find a single bidet compatible
This is irresponsible advice!!!!
Not really. Great comparison and really educational. I just didn’t see that claim anywhere in the comments, so I thought that I’d help meet the status quo.
Aloha, from Hawaii!
Aloha brother
jaythatdrainguy did a test like this
Nice
I've been using Dude Wipes for a while now with no issues, but I don't see any reason not to switch to Cottenelle after this.
My wife had picked up some of the 'dude' wipes, but I wasn't impressed with how they came apart. When I tried the Nice ones, for my shake test, they seemed to turn into a loose pulp that really wasn't holding together at all (I had posted about it on your subreddit).
Everything small enough is flushable 😂
ya know if you go do your businedd in a field with the rest of the buffalo and use leaves and grass you wont have these kind of problems.
In had to cut bags of baby wipes off my sewer cable
Why is easy tear nice?? I am using these for a reason and my finger busting through is NOT the reason. I am fan of Dude Wipes, because, I imma dude.
so that they fall apart easier when being flushed
No Diddy.
Bidets are something.
Bidet all day!
No Diddy @7:12
I use dude wipes with shea butter
3:45😂
I’m skeptical of a plumber’s review on this. I would trust someone in sanitation more.
Now do it with cast iron and clay sewer pipe lmao
Came here to find the cast iron comment. 🤜🤛
Only if you want to stop up your sewer line are they flushable!
Unless you’ve got a rough cast iron sewer system or a broken pvc system I don’t see these stopping your line up….
We been flushing them over 10 years, never a problem.
@@RogerWakefield There are lots of them around.
Thir From myanmar
Glad to have you here!
Yes they flush. They also get stuck
They haven't gotten stuck at my house yet
That New Orleans comment didn't age well.
Wipes are not flushable period. Even toilet paper is questionable. In Mexico most people don't even flush tp.
Poorpumbersociety has left the chat
We just need to embrace bidets in this country!
My friend doesn't wipe, he lets it crust over.
... because that's what friends do for each other.
Roger, they will flush, but they may not make it all of the way, and when they do make it all of the way, they cause problems at processing facilities. Have you ever heard of Traptex? Check them out. It is a device with blades that is installed in the bowl at the front of the trap that will allow everything to go through except for materials too tough for the blades to shred - mainly wipes and paper towels. They may cost as much as the bowl you’re putting it in, but in the end, they are worth the cost. While they are not recommended for installation in hospitals due to the danger of some lunatic putting their hand in the bowl and cutting themselves, that’s where you can find them most, but there is almost always a sign on the wall warning people to not put their hands into the toilet due to this device and the risk of injury. These things are a modern marvel.
someone send this to Joe Rogan
What is his stance on it?
@@RogerWakefield he doesn't like flushable wet wipes
No
NO
yes
Dude wipes pulls apart
If you had dog poo on your arm and hands would you clean your arms and hands with toilet paper...
If you had poo all over your hands would you spray a little bit of water on them and then go eat?
If you ate with your butt…
I don't think there's one flushable wipe that's flushable?. This is at the very beginning of the video before I'm watching it but that's my theory. When I use them they go into the garbage toilet paper is the only thing I put in the toilet.
Second 🥈
Just buy a toilet add-on bidet y'all! SO much cleaner for you and for the toilet room. You don't have to keep all these bags of wipes and a trash can full of nasty poop filled wipes.
If you buy a bidet it'll clean your poo, you use a little paper and EVERYTHING goes into the toilet.
Simple
I love having a bidet, it needs to be more common in America
I think it common knowledge they don't flush
Well I did flush them…
@@RogerWakefield got me