There is actually an extra bit of dialogue in this quest. If you wear the jacket you found in the the "young communard's" (Stebans) appartement, he points this out, and Ulixes says something along the lines of "those who enforce the right of property, are the once who break it the most"
I love how at some point the communism in this game goes from being firmly grounded in materialism to sitting around reading and arguing because you believe revolutionary thoughts might manifest miracles - wishful thinking-powered revolution. These writers were absolutely commies or knew them very well
This might be my favorite quest in the whole game. It's by far the best political quest, surpassing even the scary moralist one. (Spoilers Below) Thanks a lot for the high quality recording, it's the most in-detail and exhaustive videos on them by far. SPOILER: SPOILER: SPOILER: SPOILER: SPOILER: SPOILER: SPOILER: SPOILER: The way the ending and the tower relates to infra-materialism in-game is so beautiful too, considering the more communist you are, the better it will be, ending with the true, "thought to only be possible on paper" shape that it becomes at the end.
I think that they nailed every single quest. On some other video a moralist guy absolutely loved their quest whilst I was yawning for the entire video, the fascist quest talks about love - it's the only quest that talks a little bit about Harrier relationship with the ex-something - and is full of conspiracies (fascists love that stuff), the ultraliberalist is actually quite funny and you get to make Harrier rich (even I, a communist, found the ultraliberalist quest to be fun to watch).... but the communist quest? Dude... I was so fucking concentrated during the quest, it was so cool to read the book and that last sentence... "In the dark times, should the stars also go out?" Dude it's giving me chills right now!
@@iLlamas1 Honestly I found the Moralist quest very interesting in terms of how it expanded on the Pale and its importance to the universe at large. It also showed a little bit of what's under the mask of the Moralintern (The radio operator you speak to is shown to "have lost her faith in the Moralintern" after your demand to speak to the council about the poverty in the area and their following denial). The fascist quest was honestly interesting, it was really good to get to know Harry as a person a little more and his past in general. It also makes him understand to go forward instead of dwelling in his sorrow about his ex-something. I don't remember any conspiracy from it though so I'll have to rewatch it ig, tho i have no doubt measurehead's are idiotic (It's also not a word I like, as communists, our critiques of past actions are commonly labeled as conspiracies, whether it's critiquing the CIA for different operations and assassinations or recalling the US' military actions during the Cold War. If something's a lie then it's a lie, if the ruling class calls something a conspiracy theory, it means we should double-down, study and search the historical truth, even if it leads to nothing). But honestly, I found the ultraliberal quest to be incredibly boring. Personnally I think it's by far the worst questline, ultralib was already kinda left aside before TFC, but here it gets so close to being magnificent but goes nowhere. I guess it's ironic considering the hustle is known to go nowhere IRL.
I like that this tells basically the whole story about communism. The brutal reality of regimes that call themselves such, the way people with revolutionary leanings complain about their comrades not forming into a mob they can join, the way this inaction turns them to academic debate in lieu of actual revolution, and even the way it becomes a religion onto itself for some... and yet, it also shows the sincerity beneath it. The kind and noble wish for a better future for everyone. These students... Harry... and the Revacholian communards all those years ago... They all just wanted a better, fairer world. And despite failure after failure, such a world has no reason not to exist. Yet here we are. This plight will never stop being sympathetic.
it was supposed to be the largest building in the world, 400 meters tall, it was supposed to be the communist answer to the eiffel tower, an alternate modernity made concrete, it was supposed to have floodlights projecting revolutionary slogans onto the sky and even potentially house the supreme soviet. It was never built due to the civil war, but it will always be beutiful. maybe someday we will build it:-)
Thank you so much for recording this! I did my initial run, before the final cut, as a communist, so I was reluctant to do this in my second playthrough, despite how eager I was to see this in action. It ties together the implied themes of the game's story so beautifully. Emotive and eloquent. I'm glad I got to check this out. I feel that my experience with Disco Elysium is all the better for it. At some point, eventually, I'll try and play this one for myself.
i kinda loved moralist one more it felt like you were reaching out into heavens trying to reach the impossible and the irony that the heavens were just goverment people who were behind a wall of bureaucracy thinking they are helping people but never acting like people unable to understand the struggles of every day man in high above the clouds the help that will never come.
@@HellishSpoon Even more I'd say it highlights the total control of the status quo through violence "because anything else would bring chaos". Warship Archer could raze Revachol to the ground without any opposition thanks to its artillery platforms, and the first thing they do knowing there is a hole in reality from Harry is kidnapping him to make sure noone else knows, then *maybe* solving the problem.
I left the reading of the book for after the shooting and apparently this causes the rest of the mission to be forfeited without notifying the player. I was so confused when I returned to the apartment and there was no one there. A real bummer.
i'm fucking sad i missed this quest, i erased the communist thought without realising that would remove any dialogue linked to that, as well as the vision quest choice... now i'm stuck with moralist path
For what it's worth, while the moralist quest doesn't carry quite as much pathos as this one, it does win for pure spectacle! You gained about as much as you lost.
Yeah the game takes place in a completely fictional world. The mess of cultural elements is meant to evoke a multicultural mishmash of several countries and cultures coming together in one locale.
Glad I didn't waste my time on any of the political quests. I found the game starting to drag and these would have pushed it over the edge for me. Not a fan of communists irl, so I thought it was hilarious that my first Harry had something like double the points in communism than any other political thought.
' [Communists] are out there, waiting for you to find them!'
Holy fucking foreshadowing.
There is actually an extra bit of dialogue in this quest. If you wear the jacket you found in the the "young communard's" (Stebans) appartement, he points this out, and Ulixes says something along the lines of "those who enforce the right of property, are the once who break it the most"
I don't think you have to be wearing it you just just to have it in your inventory. Don't quote me on that though
"Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses."
@@EyeoftheU some of those with gum problems, are the same that ain't flossing
Steban implying that you and Kim are a couple after Kim says you "like getting thrashed like a schoolboy" killed me
Steban gets it
What's the timestamp?
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@@takahashierik thank you
I love how at some point the communism in this game goes from being firmly grounded in materialism to sitting around reading and arguing because you believe revolutionary thoughts might manifest miracles - wishful thinking-powered revolution. These writers were absolutely commies or knew them very well
creators of the game are in fact communists
The writers were absolute commies.
As someone who knows people who had to flee Cuba and Venezuela, i just want to say from their regards: Fuck you gringo
But they do manifest miracles in Elysium! The communists are right!
They literally thanked Marx and Engels in front of Reggie during the Game Awards, not even Stalin went that far
This might be my favorite quest in the whole game. It's by far the best political quest, surpassing even the scary moralist one.
(Spoilers Below)
Thanks a lot for the high quality recording, it's the most in-detail and exhaustive videos on them by far.
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The way the ending and the tower relates to infra-materialism in-game is so beautiful too, considering the more communist you are, the better it will be, ending with the true, "thought to only be possible on paper" shape that it becomes at the end.
I think that they nailed every single quest. On some other video a moralist guy absolutely loved their quest whilst I was yawning for the entire video, the fascist quest talks about love - it's the only quest that talks a little bit about Harrier relationship with the ex-something - and is full of conspiracies (fascists love that stuff), the ultraliberalist is actually quite funny and you get to make Harrier rich (even I, a communist, found the ultraliberalist quest to be fun to watch).... but the communist quest? Dude... I was so fucking concentrated during the quest, it was so cool to read the book and that last sentence... "In the dark times, should the stars also go out?" Dude it's giving me chills right now!
@@iLlamas1 Honestly I found the Moralist quest very interesting in terms of how it expanded on the Pale and its importance to the universe at large. It also showed a little bit of what's under the mask of the Moralintern (The radio operator you speak to is shown to "have lost her faith in the Moralintern" after your demand to speak to the council about the poverty in the area and their following denial).
The fascist quest was honestly interesting, it was really good to get to know Harry as a person a little more and his past in general. It also makes him understand to go forward instead of dwelling in his sorrow about his ex-something. I don't remember any conspiracy from it though so I'll have to rewatch it ig, tho i have no doubt measurehead's are idiotic (It's also not a word I like, as communists, our critiques of past actions are commonly labeled as conspiracies, whether it's critiquing the CIA for different operations and assassinations or recalling the US' military actions during the Cold War. If something's a lie then it's a lie, if the ruling class calls something a conspiracy theory, it means we should double-down, study and search the historical truth, even if it leads to nothing).
But honestly, I found the ultraliberal quest to be incredibly boring. Personnally I think it's by far the worst questline, ultralib was already kinda left aside before TFC, but here it gets so close to being magnificent but goes nowhere. I guess it's ironic considering the hustle is known to go nowhere IRL.
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I like that this tells basically the whole story about communism. The brutal reality of regimes that call themselves such, the way people with revolutionary leanings complain about their comrades not forming into a mob they can join, the way this inaction turns them to academic debate in lieu of actual revolution, and even the way it becomes a religion onto itself for some... and yet, it also shows the sincerity beneath it. The kind and noble wish for a better future for everyone. These students... Harry... and the Revacholian communards all those years ago... They all just wanted a better, fairer world. And despite failure after failure, such a world has no reason not to exist. Yet here we are. This plight will never stop being sympathetic.
yeah, sadly as every commie revolution it ends up in failure or massive deaths (or both)
I also recall seeing such a structure at 1:16:18 in a model from Soviet Union I forgot the name but the shape is correct and it did stand
it was supposed to be the largest building in the world, 400 meters tall, it was supposed to be the communist answer to the eiffel tower, an alternate modernity made concrete, it was supposed to have floodlights projecting revolutionary slogans onto the sky and even potentially house the supreme soviet. It was never built due to the civil war, but it will always be beutiful. maybe someday we will build it:-)
@@henrylikemessi It's fugly like a rollercoaster
@@henrylikemessiagreed comrade
it's been 3 years, but it is called the Tatlin Tower...
@@elshelalu2027 thank you
Thank you so much for recording this!
I did my initial run, before the final cut, as a communist, so I was reluctant to do this in my second playthrough, despite how eager I was to see this in action. It ties together the implied themes of the game's story so beautifully. Emotive and eloquent. I'm glad I got to check this out. I feel that my experience with Disco Elysium is all the better for it. At some point, eventually, I'll try and play this one for myself.
Even if you don't like socialism, this is the best visual political quest by faarr
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Heck it does a far better job explaining what it stands for rather than most media out there.
i kinda loved moralist one more
it felt like you were reaching out into heavens
trying to reach the impossible
and the irony that the heavens were just goverment people who were behind a wall of bureaucracy
thinking they are helping people
but never acting like people
unable to understand the struggles of every day man
in high above the clouds
the help that will never come.
@@HellishSpoon Even more I'd say it highlights the total control of the status quo through violence "because anything else would bring chaos". Warship Archer could raze Revachol to the ground without any opposition thanks to its artillery platforms, and the first thing they do knowing there is a hole in reality from Harry is kidnapping him to make sure noone else knows, then *maybe* solving the problem.
@@HellishSpoon damn, the game DOES ends if you do go with them in the Heavens.... You got a point there
I left the reading of the book for after the shooting and apparently this causes the rest of the mission to be forfeited without notifying the player. I was so confused when I returned to the apartment and there was no one there. A real bummer.
I did the same mistake. The game warns you, tho'.
Do you have save files from before the shooting?
i'm fucking sad i missed this quest, i erased the communist thought without realising that would remove any dialogue linked to that, as well as the vision quest choice... now i'm stuck with moralist path
For what it's worth, while the moralist quest doesn't carry quite as much pathos as this one, it does win for pure spectacle! You gained about as much as you lost.
That was surprisingly heartwarming
This game is underrated masterpiece
dammit i sold the rifle when i needed money on the first day, i really wanted to see this ending
After reading the book it sounds like how 40k Orkney function
Well, red goes fastah. How Can I argue with that?
How did you take 2xspeed, 2xpyrho?
damn. i am inspired.
Whats with the wierd mix of german and french?
It's not a real place. Some say it gives French and Spanish vibes. Like the Dutch wooden shoes are mentioned but clearly this isn't on Earth
revachol is like a fucked up combination of france, the uk, and scandinavia
Yeah the game takes place in a completely fictional world. The mess of cultural elements is meant to evoke a multicultural mishmash of several countries and cultures coming together in one locale.
One of the best anti communist quests out there
This game was written by communists.
Glad I didn't waste my time on any of the political quests. I found the game starting to drag and these would have pushed it over the edge for me. Not a fan of communists irl, so I thought it was hilarious that my first Harry had something like double the points in communism than any other political thought.
Personally i regreted to choose this political vision. Boring af.
wrong
L + No Volition + Not Hardcore
"Boring."
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