I think Zenyatta gains IMMENSE strength in 5v5 super tank format. As well as the fact that he has a boop on his kick giving him very nice survivability against his greatest counters. Which basically protected his biggest weakness in the 5v5 format. Which imo makes him VERY noticeably strong. Ofc in accordance with the points you have made too
Oh man i totally forgot to mention Zen's Kick. Although his boop is pretty strong he has to be in melee range for it to work thus leaving him in a more vulnerable situation compared to other boops that can be used in a longer range. So while he can survive off of it, I don't think it increases his survivability compared to other boop mechanics. But it's still a necessary tool in his kit and i'm glad the dev's added that
prior to his most recent buffs id have agreed 100% he's also not great against the rush and dive comps people are playing a lot. I am a dps main and almost always play hanzo, but i've played a bit over 50 games of zen this season against anything and everything. I started the season in diamond 2 which was about what all my roles were at, and my win rate on zen was 73% I am now in masters 3 so I think hes very strong. My main impression watching you is that compared to me your very passive. I don't even heal much 5.5k per 10, but I kill enemies and reposition off of main a lot more
DUDE CONGRATULATIONS HITTING M3! I've only really started to play Zen in S13 so I'm still learning the ropes. Playing passive is what works for me but I learn with each game how to be more aggressive. I really really want to start flanking with him and try to get a kill in the enemy backline and just trance out lol. Would you say your aggressiveness (compared to my gameplay) Is what helped you climb more in the ranks?? Wouldn't mind the help ;)
No toon is overpowered, just certain abilities are. Anti-nade is the biggest offender, but after that, yeah, probably discord, lamp, and suzu. Fix those 4 abilities and supports would actually be perceived as weak, instead of the OP monsters people think they are. It just sucks for all the other supports, several of which are pretty gimp, but won't ever get buffs because "support is strong". Yeah, if you're one of those 4 supports that has broken abilities.
you explain Zen very well if i add then Zen not op but player who pick him good , bad player always not pick Zen because of bad position die a lot then blame the chracter that why i like it when i see Zen in my team because high chance he good player.
I think Zenyatta gains IMMENSE strength in 5v5 super tank format. As well as the fact that he has a boop on his kick giving him very nice survivability against his greatest counters. Which basically protected his biggest weakness in the 5v5 format. Which imo makes him VERY noticeably strong. Ofc in accordance with the points you have made too
Oh man i totally forgot to mention Zen's Kick. Although his boop is pretty strong he has to be in melee range for it to work thus leaving him in a more vulnerable situation compared to other boops that can be used in a longer range. So while he can survive off of it, I don't think it increases his survivability compared to other boop mechanics. But it's still a necessary tool in his kit and i'm glad the dev's added that
prior to his most recent buffs id have agreed 100% he's also not great against the rush and dive comps people are playing a lot. I am a dps main and almost always play hanzo, but i've played a bit over 50 games of zen this season against anything and everything. I started the season in diamond 2 which was about what all my roles were at, and my win rate on zen was 73% I am now in masters 3 so I think hes very strong. My main impression watching you is that compared to me your very passive. I don't even heal much 5.5k per 10, but I kill enemies and reposition off of main a lot more
DUDE CONGRATULATIONS HITTING M3! I've only really started to play Zen in S13 so I'm still learning the ropes. Playing passive is what works for me but I learn with each game how to be more aggressive. I really really want to start flanking with him and try to get a kill in the enemy backline and just trance out lol. Would you say your aggressiveness (compared to my gameplay) Is what helped you climb more in the ranks?? Wouldn't mind the help ;)
No toon is overpowered, just certain abilities are. Anti-nade is the biggest offender, but after that, yeah, probably discord, lamp, and suzu. Fix those 4 abilities and supports would actually be perceived as weak, instead of the OP monsters people think they are. It just sucks for all the other supports, several of which are pretty gimp, but won't ever get buffs because "support is strong". Yeah, if you're one of those 4 supports that has broken abilities.
you explain Zen very well if i add then Zen not op but player who pick him good , bad player always not pick Zen because of bad position die a lot then blame the chracter that why i like it when i see Zen in my team because high chance he good player.