Rubber absorbs water, and at elevated temperatures the viscosity of the rubber decreases and the absorbs the water, it also has the effect of softening the rubber and increases grip. During the course of a race, all the water will be absorbed into the tyre, and the only telltale sign will be the increased grip on a "Hard tyre"
Until you said this I did not see any physical reason for water in tires. Looked it up and vulcanized rubber absorbs several percent water. Could not verify the softening but it is not hard to imagine that it does. If adding water makes the cars go faster and the fragile tires last longer why not let all the teams do it? Safety can of worms?
Has anyone considered the fact that the McLarens tend to bring in their tyres much more gently than others to use later in each stint? We know they spent of last year working on tyre management as they were convinced that was one of the Redbulls advantage. Why are people so quick to discredit McLarens achievements with such false accusations??? May it be their teams (Redbull, Merc and especially Ferrari) are struggling a bit with their own tyre management.
Water always evaporates into its local environment. Water evaporates until the air into which it is evaporating becomes saturated, and then it stops. Tires are filled with dry air to start with, and they are only injecting milliliters of water into a tire.
@TheChazas agree with you. Red Bull haunting their closest constructor competitor. just to put the spooks and stresses on them. It's pure *Gamesmanship* .. or in driving terms " a racing incident" - don't forget that every moment red bull get mentioned in the media.. is free adverts too.
It's not the case, Red Bull did it in the past. And team members that used to work there are now at McLaren and other teams on the grid. The Fia are going to monitor this for the remaining races. It can be done and be hidden apparently. This isn't over from the people in the "know"
@@TheChazasI think the FIA warned the grid this will be checked… and therefore no team will continue to do this. The only way to extrapolate is to see which team has the sudden drop off in performance in the next 3 races.
Mercedes were caught altering the pressure of their tyres on the grid. In Brazil so for this guy to say it's impossible to get access to tyres is clearly not watching formula 1 what a joke
dude what a joke you are... poor you. they were not caught cheating lol the mechanic inflated the tyres in front of everyone but he didn't know it wasn't allowed. a simple mistake from a newbie F1 mechanic, nothing else. so screaming at cheating like you do is pretty lame. not to say embarrassing.
Red Bull has been doing a little bit of kicking and screaming lately. Anything is possible, but McLaren doesn't immediately strike me as a team that needs to break the rules to do well. Sure we had the rear wing debacle, but that was an open secret. Anyone could see what was happening. Breaking cost cap and height adjustment mechanisms in the cockpit are not known until those facts are divulged. Seems like a bit of misdirection, but always open minded. Good video.
That's certainly true for sure, but It is an interesting accusation for sure, and from people in the "know" they say Red Bull do really believe it is something they have done/been doing as they did in the past. Who knows really, only time will tell on that I guess. Glad you enjoyed the video.
@@codecodderson3607 Like I said, the DRS flap is in plain sight. Anyone with a pair of eyes can see what they were doing. It's not obfuscated like a bib adjustment interface or brake by wire manipulation. Of course those are just allegations and nothing malicious was proven to be taking place. I think all of this to say, everyone will try to take advantage of the rules and push the boundaries, but I find it hard to beleive teams would go to such great lengths to put their team in such peril for the mere chance at better performance. If it were a guarantee....well then I could see how that'd be attractive.
Its not cheating...its called innovation. F1 is way over regulated and therefore the teams must find any advantage they can if they want to be competitive. I am a RedBull/Max V. fan, but think that McLaren is well with their rights to experiment 😂...more power to them. Anyways when your battling Max and Newey you gotta find something or you will be sniffing RedBulls exhaust and never getting wins or podiums 😂. BTW did you even explain the advantage, I got hung up on your calling it cheating?
Except it’s cheating. Redbull used to do it in the past, but FIA went out of their way to explicitly ban it. It’s not “experiment” when you look at what’s not allowed and proceeds to do it exactly the way it’s banned you dumkoff
@@lukemaney645 Worse than there being too many regulations is the fact that the regulations are often stupid. And yes, they can inhibit innovation, because innovation is too costly for an ongoing business enterprise. The fundamental problem is that F1 has become big business consumer entertainment instead of the specialized sport of automotive engineering it used to be. F1 is now more 'Formula Tire' than Formula One due to the dumb tire compound rules and mandatory pit stops. Differences in tire strategy decide races more often than engine power and reliability or driver ability. After tires the next most important aspect is aerodynamics that have little relevance to road car applications, aero that ruined close racing and overtaking, leading to the implementation of dumb crutches like DRS. The new race circuits resemble go-cart tracks more than the road racing circuits of old, and the drivers act like they are in go-carts rather than the more dangerous F1 cars of old. Then there are all the dumb curbs and chicanes that neuter even legendary old-world circuits like Spa and Monza. F1 has become a business of producing a spectacle for fans who expect a show that feels more like Cirque du Soleil or a rock concert, fans who needn't care about automotive technology to enjoy the show. Nope, it's not you grandfather's Formula 1. And many grandfathers believe F1 has lost far more than it has gained.
Rubber absorbs water, and at elevated temperatures the viscosity of the rubber decreases and the absorbs the water, it also has the effect of softening the rubber and increases grip.
During the course of a race, all the water will be absorbed into the tyre, and the only telltale sign will be the increased grip on a "Hard tyre"
Until you said this I did not see any physical reason for water in tires. Looked it up and vulcanized rubber absorbs several percent water. Could not verify the softening but it is not hard to imagine that it does. If adding water makes the cars go faster and the fragile tires last longer why not let all the teams do it? Safety can of worms?
Has anyone considered the fact that the McLarens tend to bring in their tyres much more gently than others to use later in each stint? We know they spent of last year working on tyre management as they were convinced that was one of the Redbulls advantage. Why are people so quick to discredit McLarens achievements with such false accusations??? May it be their teams (Redbull, Merc and especially Ferrari) are struggling a bit with their own tyre management.
The FACT of tyre advantage is pure luck, not the talent of engineering
Curious to know how the water could evaporate in a closed environment.
Water always evaporates into its local environment. Water evaporates until the air into which it is evaporating becomes saturated, and then it stops. Tires are filled with dry air to start with, and they are only injecting milliliters of water into a tire.
I think the water was injured from the sky 😂
@TheChazas agree with you. Red Bull haunting their closest constructor competitor. just to put the spooks and stresses on them. It's pure *Gamesmanship* .. or in driving terms " a racing incident" - don't forget that every moment red bull get mentioned in the media.. is free adverts too.
I think it's Boyle's law but I can tell you any moisture in there makes the tire have the ability to have more heat capacity stored up
Suddenly another car is speedy. 🙂
Your theory has a flaw. The water has nowhere to go even if it's evaporated. The water would still be trapped in the tire unless the tire had a leak.
Trump has already prepared a pardon for Mc.
and got Herbert to check the tyres.
Very interesting!
Redbull can't stand the fact that it's losing WCC to ferrari and McLaren
BS they dont care cause they are rollin in Carlos Slims dollars.
Was it not just a made-up thing for FIA to check McLaren, it was checked and there was no such thing.
It's not the case, Red Bull did it in the past. And team members that used to work there are now at McLaren and other teams on the grid. The Fia are going to monitor this for the remaining races. It can be done and be hidden apparently. This isn't over from the people in the "know"
@@F1_Unraveled I know it is a real thing, but I meant a madeup thing about McLaren.
@@TheChazasI think the FIA warned the grid this will be checked… and therefore no team will continue to do this. The only way to extrapolate is to see which team has the sudden drop off in performance in the next 3 races.
Pirelli themselves have checked the tyres and found nothing untoward. They fit and remove the tyres for all the teams' wheels.
Mercedes were caught altering the pressure of their tyres on the grid. In Brazil so for this guy to say it's impossible to get access to tyres is clearly not watching formula 1 what a joke
dude what a joke you are... poor you. they were not caught cheating lol the mechanic inflated the tyres in front of everyone but he didn't know it wasn't allowed. a simple mistake from a newbie F1 mechanic, nothing else. so screaming at cheating like you do is pretty lame. not to say embarrassing.
It’s actually getting boring now tbh
Red Bull has been doing a little bit of kicking and screaming lately. Anything is possible, but McLaren doesn't immediately strike me as a team that needs to break the rules to do well. Sure we had the rear wing debacle, but that was an open secret. Anyone could see what was happening. Breaking cost cap and height adjustment mechanisms in the cockpit are not known until those facts are divulged. Seems like a bit of misdirection, but always open minded. Good video.
That's certainly true for sure, but It is an interesting accusation for sure, and from people in the "know" they say Red Bull do really believe it is something they have done/been doing as they did in the past. Who knows really, only time will tell on that I guess. Glad you enjoyed the video.
What about the drs flap ?
@@codecodderson3607 Like I said, the DRS flap is in plain sight. Anyone with a pair of eyes can see what they were doing. It's not obfuscated like a bib adjustment interface or brake by wire manipulation. Of course those are just allegations and nothing malicious was proven to be taking place. I think all of this to say, everyone will try to take advantage of the rules and push the boundaries, but I find it hard to beleive teams would go to such great lengths to put their team in such peril for the mere chance at better performance. If it were a guarantee....well then I could see how that'd be attractive.
@stevenshizzle I mean it does make some sense to their late tire advantages since canada I wanna say.
McLaren were fined 300m for stealing Ferrari secrets 20 years ago
Its not cheating...its called innovation. F1 is way over regulated and therefore the teams must find any advantage they can if they want to be competitive. I am a RedBull/Max V. fan, but think that McLaren is well with their rights to experiment 😂...more power to them. Anyways when your battling Max and Newey you gotta find something or you will be sniffing RedBulls exhaust and never getting wins or podiums 😂. BTW did you even explain the advantage, I got hung up on your calling it cheating?
Except it’s cheating. Redbull used to do it in the past, but FIA went out of their way to explicitly ban it. It’s not “experiment” when you look at what’s not allowed and proceeds to do it exactly the way it’s banned you dumkoff
Uhm, it IS cheating if it is directly noncompliant with explicit rules. That's sort of a definition thing, if words still have any actual meaning.
@gort8203
I agree..its cheating! But don't you agree that F1 is way over regulated?
@@lukemaney645 Worse than there being too many regulations is the fact that the regulations are often stupid. And yes, they can inhibit innovation, because innovation is too costly for an ongoing business enterprise. The fundamental problem is that F1 has become big business consumer entertainment instead of the specialized sport of automotive engineering it used to be.
F1 is now more 'Formula Tire' than Formula One due to the dumb tire compound rules and mandatory pit stops. Differences in tire strategy decide races more often than engine power and reliability or driver ability. After tires the next most important aspect is aerodynamics that have little relevance to road car applications, aero that ruined close racing and overtaking, leading to the implementation of dumb crutches like DRS.
The new race circuits resemble go-cart tracks more than the road racing circuits of old, and the drivers act like they are in go-carts rather than the more dangerous F1 cars of old. Then there are all the dumb curbs and chicanes that neuter even legendary old-world circuits like Spa and Monza. F1 has become a business of producing a spectacle for fans who expect a show that feels more like Cirque du Soleil or a rock concert, fans who needn't care about automotive technology to enjoy the show.
Nope, it's not you grandfather's Formula 1. And many grandfathers believe F1 has lost far more than it has gained.
@@gort8203
We are in agreement 😀.
@F1Unraveled stop glazzing Red bull the biggest cheater in history please.
😕 how exactly am I doing that? They all cheat to a degree, some more than others. And sometimes they get caught out. No big deal.
Thanks for another informative video.
chill mate, drink water
short memories mate ,
McLaren tops them all , pinching the Ferrari papers.
Ah well, Mclaren and their spygate and some shenanigans by that Flavio Briatore, which should prevent him from making decisions.