You missed a fascinating historical tidbit on the nameplate. Eclipse aviation was indeed absorbed by the Bendix corp. However this nameplate does not say that it was made by Bendix, or was part of Bendix. It was made in Bendix, N.J., USA. Yes- the name of the town was Bendix before it was changed later to Teterboro
I did not miss anything. Eclipse Machine Company of Elmira NY was acquired by Vincent Bendix already in 1928. From1914 to 1928 Eclipse was a supplier, manufacturing Vincent Bendix's automotive starters in Elmira NY. Consequently, Vincent Bendix moved the Eclipse operation from Elmira to his facilities in Bendix NJ, but kept the company names separate.
Thanks for posting this. My dad was a plane captain on the USS Bennington. He said that it was SOP to use the "shotgun" starter to start planes. Faster and more reliable than the electric starter.
Thanks! Do remember this is just one type of breech though! I know many existed that are akin to a single barrel shotgun if its barrel was cut short and connected to the supply line to the starter.
Excellent Video. I thought I would be the only dude on the planet that would RUclips a Cartridge Starter on an Old Radial. And then you already had it all figured out. Burning question in my head.... Answered. Thank you for the work and attention to detail.
Thanks! I was suprised how little concrete info there is on these things myself. The Smithsonian has a similar model and I had tried contacting them for info but never got a response.. I found some related documentation for these at one point that gives some more information than is presented here, what were you trying to figure out?
a beadblaster modified to take the size for these cartridge starters, may just work as simulating what an actual cartridge charge would (but not anywhere near as loud as the cartridge load)
Do you know what type of fitting the starter uses? I have one of these on my 9 cylinder Guiberson T-1020 Radial Diesel and since I can't find any cartridges for sale, I'd like to hook up either an air line of nitrogen.
Both use a type of flared fitting, though exactly what I don't know, and will depend on the starter, there a number of sizes/makes with the same basic design. The manuals refer to them as "tube connecting nuts", but I don't see much success searching that. You will need to figure out what size your starter uses and what flare angle, (I have seen both 45 and 60 mentioned in one manual depending on the starter) to see if you can find something commercial. These things have quite the high pressure impulse to replicate though, you may want to see if anyone has worked out a way to reload 8 gauge hulls, I believe I had seen a couple forum posts alluding to this when researching these. I know the manuals are very specific on the type of pipe, minimum bend radius, etc for mounting, as well as sealants etc.
You missed a fascinating historical tidbit on the nameplate. Eclipse aviation was indeed absorbed by the Bendix corp. However this nameplate does not say that it was made by Bendix, or was part of Bendix. It was made in Bendix, N.J., USA. Yes- the name of the town was Bendix before it was changed later to Teterboro
Thanks! I wasn't quite sure how the relationship of Eclipse and Bendix had developed
I did not miss anything. Eclipse Machine Company of Elmira NY was acquired by Vincent Bendix already in 1928. From1914 to 1928 Eclipse was a supplier, manufacturing Vincent Bendix's automotive starters in Elmira NY. Consequently, Vincent Bendix moved the Eclipse operation from Elmira to his facilities in Bendix NJ, but kept the company names separate.
Thanks for posting this. My dad was a plane captain on the USS Bennington. He said that it was SOP to use the "shotgun" starter to start planes. Faster and more reliable than the electric starter.
my father has same thing up in his barn!! , the craftsmanship is amazing!! he kinda knew it was some kinda back up starting device.
Thanks for this! Although I've read about these, I've never seen the innards in action. Now I'll be able to explain it better to my viewers!
Thanks! Do remember this is just one type of breech though! I know many existed that are akin to a single barrel shotgun if its barrel was cut short and connected to the supply line to the starter.
Excellent Video. I thought I would be the only dude on the planet that would RUclips a Cartridge Starter on an Old Radial. And then you already had it all figured out. Burning question in my head.... Answered. Thank you for the work and attention to detail.
Thanks! I was suprised how little concrete info there is on these things myself. The Smithsonian has a similar model and I had tried contacting them for info but never got a response..
I found some related documentation for these at one point that gives some more information than is presented here, what were you trying to figure out?
The museum missed out on something awesome!
Also, Plessey in England made all their various piston engine starters under Bendix license.
Awesome! Thanks for this, was wondering about it.
a beadblaster modified to take the size for these cartridge starters, may just work as simulating what an actual cartridge charge would (but not anywhere near as loud as the cartridge load)
It would be neat to see it disassembled or maybe an exploded view.
For the love of Pete, FIRE ONE!
4:10 *CelluLOSE...
(Cellulite is something else)
like a bendix spring
I would love to see this incorporated into an F 35 lol
most likely these were used on the Grummann F4F Wildcat possibly the Grummann J2F Duck as well using the early Wright R-1820 radial engines.
Some Jets actually used cartridge starters, though they were far far larger charges than these shotgun shells
Do you know what type of fitting the starter uses? I have one of these on my 9 cylinder Guiberson T-1020 Radial Diesel and since I can't find any cartridges for sale, I'd like to hook up either an air line of nitrogen.
Both use a type of flared fitting, though exactly what I don't know, and will depend on the starter, there a number of sizes/makes with the same basic design. The manuals refer to them as "tube connecting nuts", but I don't see much success searching that. You will need to figure out what size your starter uses and what flare angle, (I have seen both 45 and 60 mentioned in one manual depending on the starter) to see if you can find something commercial. These things have quite the high pressure impulse to replicate though, you may want to see if anyone has worked out a way to reload 8 gauge hulls, I believe I had seen a couple forum posts alluding to this when researching these. I know the manuals are very specific on the type of pipe, minimum bend radius, etc for mounting, as well as sealants etc.
WW-II
So much learned
My god I kept waiting and waiting for him to explain how a car start works but it never happened in this long winded video.
Nice can't see shit. I can't figure out what you're talking about.