We built two S1000RRs with less than $10K engines and one put down 224 WHP at 1,000cc and the other(1140cc) made 248 WHP after a few years of development.
There’s something that you may be missing with the difference in wHp for these two bikes, weight. A bike that’s noticeably lighter and slightly lower Hp can beat a bike with more power. Power-to-weight is an often forgotten ratio.
Don’t forget the wsbk v4r is rev limited Got a family member who was a mechanic for a bsb rider ….wont mention his name ….but he said it’s about 250hp but rev limits put it closer to 240hp
The V4R ate the SL’s ass everywhere except for where you’re at only when you’re racing. I’d much rather have the beefy mid and a little less up top any day of the week.
If I had one of that SL it would only be Displayed at home. Too beautiful and a masterpiece to be ridden. The first SL too, the orangy red one. Happy to ride the regular v4r. 😂
i like these videos where you explain a little more and show a little more about dyno runs and etc. hope you can make a video with mt-10 generation 2 with decat.
maybe worth mentioning the weight difference. The Superleggera is substantially lighter. all other things being equal (like pilot weight) the Superleggera will exit corners much more agilely.
All these years i thought v4superleg has the same engine as the first v4r, but man......superleg engine revving just over 17K RPM 💀(that's almost MotoGP territory)
$100k on a single bike is nuts.. gorgeous bike, but a vastly different price bracket to my bikes! My bikes total value could buy 2 Superleggera swingarms 😂
They leave the rearsets alone to save weight.....I know multiple people that have fully custom SL's and they always leave rearsets alone, they weigh nothing compared to flashy aftermarket whatever brand.....the Superleggera, means superlite.....all about weight savings baby. as it should be. Even though the V4R is making more power throughout the line, the SL is WAY lighter, Its not all about numbers. SL would win IMO.
mate the the sl weight is 152.2kg with race spec and the weight of the pnigale v4r is 172kg and that means that the sl has a much better power to weight ratio and also some guy ones said power make go faster on the straights aero and lightness make you go faster everywhere. so the sl will be faster almost always
The V4r will pull ahead initially at the hit, but. after that, it's bye bye V4r.. In a race, they will be sitting at the peak revs on every shift. The SL should win. On a track, the V4r mid range would show an advantage
When you said 800$ referring to the dry clutch I laugh out loud. I’m going to assume that’s not done for less than 2,500$? And every 800-1500 miles 🫣
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i mean.. for the price of this special homologation versions.. you get a under 1000cc engine low torque compared with the regular v4 that has a 1100 plus cc engine with way more torque.. would rather have a regular S, because it is STRONGER
It making more hp after 14k is all that matters.. if you’re shifting at redline the rpm isn’t gunna drop much below 14 shifting at 16.. and fuck what Kay did to that bike there’s probably a 30 pound difference between those two bikes.. two riders the same weight the v4r is getting gapped
Wait for it. 650ib video inbound..."i just picked up my dream Panigale v4 RRR R....R bike you fools helped pay for by watching me do illegal ish snackdowns on public roads. Hahahahahahck" or the IMkay "crashed my 100k Panigale cry for me" vid
Lol I don’t understand why people feel the need to say this. No offense but it’s because you don’t have that kind of money. I don’t either, but It’s not difficult to imagine that if I had a couple million in the bank then I can easily see myself dropping 100k on a Superleggera.
@@johnsimms3693 No offence but if you're at all interested in a V4 of any kind then you're being dishonest and I'll explain why. I'm assuming that you're interested in a V4 of some kind since you're watching this vid so your stance stance should be "how much money would I need to have to be okay with spending 100k on a V4SL" because I bet if I asked you if you had 1 Billion dollars in the bank/cash would you then buy a V4SL your answer would probably be yes.
@@KentPhillips sorry my guy im YAMAHA til I die ... Ducati are nice to look at .. its just nerve of them putting a 100K bike .. it boggles my brain .. i am not offended from your first comment.. like I said if I had the money, I couldn't see myself buying a ducati
@@johnsimms3693 That makes sense. I'm a Yamaha guy too so I can respect it. I just wish Yamaha would update the R1/R1M to the level of the V4 but it seems like they're leaving the 1000CC supersport game completely. Fingers crossed that they change their minds.
7:03 800 miles and it needs a clutch!?!? They only last 1500 miles!?!?! And people are so obsessed with these 💩 Ill keep my s1000rr and honda fireblade
Ducati has always had a shitty dry clutch that’s noisy as hell. You have the proof little bit of horsepower and shit slipping with low mileage. Built by hand used to be better
So pathetic!! Elena meyers on a 600cc sport bike will smoke either of these guys on a track! Power is no good if you can’t use it!! No way any of these guys can benefit from extra hp!!
We built two S1000RRs with less than $10K engines and one put down 224 WHP at 1,000cc and the other(1140cc) made 248 WHP after a few years of development.
Pump gas and throw away the valve springs at 1400 Km.
There’s something that you may be missing with the difference in wHp for these two bikes, weight. A bike that’s noticeably lighter and slightly lower Hp can beat a bike with more power. Power-to-weight is an often forgotten ratio.
Yeah you are on the money, a pro rider wouod be faster around track on the super
The guy in the black gym T, (K?) mentioned the weight difference..
@@woooster17yes, iamKay is his Channel Name. Check it out
I believe the world superbike V4Rs are making over 240hp, but they need overhauling regularly, they wouldn't be a good road bike ! Great content 👍🏻
Yes , wsbk Race spec Panigale V4 R's makes around 245 hp.
On the wheel @@wanderer54796
That's 240 at the crank , about 220 at the wheel for world supers
v4/v4s better for road bike
Don’t forget the wsbk v4r is rev limited
Got a family member who was a mechanic for a bsb rider ….wont mention his name ….but he said it’s about 250hp but rev limits put it closer to 240hp
The V4R ate the SL’s ass everywhere except for where you’re at only when you’re racing. I’d much rather have the beefy mid and a little less up top any day of the week.
Can u please do a 2023 /2024 STREETFIGHTER v4s please
Could you do a base V4 vs a Base S1k 2023+ for both bikes dyno comparison
@@YoungL_rd the SP we showed and the M1000RR will be basically the same as the bikes you mentioned
If I had one of that SL it would only be Displayed at home. Too beautiful and a masterpiece to be ridden. The first SL too, the orangy red one.
Happy to ride the regular v4r. 😂
i like these videos where you explain a little more and show a little more about dyno runs and etc. hope you can make a video with mt-10 generation 2 with decat.
Good information video keep it up. I would love to see what my 2024 V4R what it would do on your Dnyo
You guys are the best !!! 💯💯🙌🏼
The guy who has the first bike is the guy ya want to be... he sure looks the part.
Would like to see the battle between the riders...
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Great video I am a track guy I have the V4R but I dream of one day owning and Tracking a SUPERLEGGERA.... Amazing #traxstarz
maybe worth mentioning the weight difference. The Superleggera is substantially lighter. all other things being equal (like pilot weight) the Superleggera will exit corners much more agilely.
This is great info. First time Iv’e seem my SP Dino results compared to a R and SL.
I can’t even imagine what the monthly maintenance bill would be on the V4R and Super.
Imagene the Insurance 😂. 1000$/month
@@superbikesquadracer insurance is probably more than the bike payment lol
@@Final_Boss_Racing True hahahha. Its like a buggati price
@Final_Boss_Racing these guys don't make bike payments I'm sure lol
@@mattsloop2736 oh yeah they do YT pays well but they’re not dropping 100k in cash
All these years i thought v4superleg has the same engine as the first v4r, but man......superleg engine revving just over 17K RPM 💀(that's almost MotoGP territory)
m1000rr so strong
Love Superleggera
$100k on a single bike is nuts.. gorgeous bike, but a vastly different price bracket to my bikes! My bikes total value could buy 2 Superleggera swingarms 😂
They leave the rearsets alone to save weight.....I know multiple people that have fully custom SL's and they always leave rearsets alone, they weigh nothing compared to flashy aftermarket whatever brand.....the Superleggera, means superlite.....all about weight savings baby. as it should be.
Even though the V4R is making more power throughout the line, the SL is WAY lighter, Its not all about numbers. SL would win IMO.
17.000 rpm es una locura 🤯
why you use pump gas? why e85 not? , great content, nice work.
mate the the sl weight is 152.2kg with race spec and the weight of the pnigale v4r is 172kg and that means that the sl has a much better power to weight ratio and also some guy ones said power make go faster on the straights aero and lightness make you go faster everywhere. so the sl will be faster almost always
Bro literally explained the difference between all v4's as well as wsbk bikes
The V4r will pull ahead initially at the hit, but. after that, it's bye bye V4r.. In a race, they will be sitting at the peak revs on every shift. The SL should win. On a track, the V4r mid range would show an advantage
Curiosity: is the Ducati Upmap that good on the V4S/R ? Did the superLeg have extra attention at the factory?
@@occrash5616 it looks like the upmap for the SL got some extra love from Ducati
@@BT_Moto lol btw did the SL run on pump that day in the dyno?
@@dute007 same exact acn 91 pump gas on both bikes
@@BT_Moto so much power for an NA 😁 on pump that bike is good for roll racing though lol
When you said 800$ referring to the dry clutch I laugh out loud.
I’m going to assume that’s not done for less than 2,500$? And every 800-1500 miles 🫣
i mean.. for the price of this special homologation versions.. you get a under 1000cc engine low torque compared with the regular v4 that has a 1100 plus cc engine with way more torque.. would rather have a regular S, because it is STRONGER
Great info & insight from Troy Btmoto as always
Can't wait to see u race Kay
LOL Imkay isn't a real motorcyclist, you'll never see him on the track.
How much lighter is the SL to the R? Would the weight difference even out that middle range?
@@austinscott5404 about 30lbs
So 206 for the V4R N 210 for the SL ?
It making more hp after 14k is all that matters.. if you’re shifting at redline the rpm isn’t gunna drop much below 14 shifting at 16.. and fuck what Kay did to that bike there’s probably a 30 pound difference between those two bikes.. two riders the same weight the v4r is getting gapped
If you just care about straight line speed then just buy a Hayabusa, it'll destroy both these bikes.
@@Waldo1122 A full bolt on busa NO a turbo/superchargered busa YES
@@2Lavelle A full stock Busa, yes. It has done it many times already ON VIDEO...
@@Waldo1122 LOL where? A stock V4S EATS that heavy pig.
@@kestrel3509 2.3 0-60 on a Hayabusa with a top speed of 180 mph. You realize Google exists right?
More RPM compensate for the lower torque, cause of the shorter gear. SL engine will beat the other
Not just the shorter gear. At higher RPM you have more power strokes per unit of time.
But it should be a 2023/24 ducati v4r 😁👍
but the superleggera is from 2020?
Well, he’s comparing a $100k+ bike vs $39k bike….
Wait for it. 650ib video inbound..."i just picked up my dream Panigale v4 RRR R....R bike you fools helped pay for by watching me do illegal ish snackdowns on public roads. Hahahahahahck" or the IMkay "crashed my 100k Panigale cry for me" vid
Isn’t the SL like 40-50kg less weight too ? Like dropping a child off the back of the v4r.
@@theonlyredspecial about 30lbs
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WHAT THE F....... THE SUPERLEGERA V4 216mph !?!?!?!?!?!😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
What dose it dyno on the race fuel map?
All this horsepower and half the guys out there can’t even handle it.
Power vs longevity
Now try the new 2023 v4R
I know it’s a little thing , but it’s not a SL ,
I just can't see myself kicking out almost a house for a bike ...
Lol I don’t understand why people feel the need to say this. No offense but it’s because you don’t have that kind of money. I don’t either, but It’s not difficult to imagine that if I had a couple million in the bank then I can easily see myself dropping 100k on a Superleggera.
@@KentPhillips na even if I did ... Im not buying 1 sir .. no way ... A car YES absolutely... A bike? Definitely not ...
@@johnsimms3693 No offence but if you're at all interested in a V4 of any kind then you're being dishonest and I'll explain why. I'm assuming that you're interested in a V4 of some kind since you're watching this vid so your stance stance should be "how much money would I need to have to be okay with spending 100k on a V4SL" because I bet if I asked you if you had 1 Billion dollars in the bank/cash would you then buy a V4SL your answer would probably be yes.
@@KentPhillips sorry my guy im YAMAHA til I die ... Ducati are nice to look at .. its just nerve of them putting a 100K bike .. it boggles my brain .. i am not offended from your first comment.. like I said if I had the money, I couldn't see myself buying a ducati
@@johnsimms3693 That makes sense. I'm a Yamaha guy too so I can respect it. I just wish Yamaha would update the R1/R1M to the level of the V4 but it seems like they're leaving the 1000CC supersport game completely. Fingers crossed that they change their minds.
Should’ve been the new v4r not the outdated version
The midrange advantage for the V4S is meaningless as the super is >80lbs lighter.
"mexico or CG generated"
ahh yes for sure 😉
Saddest content ever 😂my 2019 winter edition zx10rr puts both thoses bikes to shame
7:03 800 miles and it needs a clutch!?!? They only last 1500 miles!?!?! And people are so obsessed with these 💩 Ill keep my s1000rr and honda fireblade
Indeed
It comes down to how you ride it. My friend did 6000 miles on His Panigale V4 SP2 and dealer check it and said it could go for another 3000 miles.
its all about what people are willing to pay for, some people will, and some people wont. The bike is excellent none the less
It’s cause your a cheap bastard😊
Ballers
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Ryders can go on a diet for a whole lot cheaper , 🤣
A ninja h2. Stage 3 gears. Air filter. Full exhaust. H2r drop in cams, Tune. 300whp. 3500$ in bolt ons. Cool story 😂🎉
I rather the new CBR fire blade RR. Way more bike for the price. Or the BMW. M1000RR. Ask Valentino Rossi what he thinks of Ducati.
Ducati has always had a shitty dry clutch that’s noisy as hell. You have the proof little bit of horsepower and shit slipping with low mileage. Built by hand used to be better
So pathetic!! Elena meyers on a 600cc sport bike will smoke either of these guys on a track! Power is no good if you can’t use it!! No way any of these guys can benefit from extra hp!!
HP4 Race on the same dyno! Do it ! 🫵🏼✊🏼
All this work and power numbers but never see the racetrack to spin several laps. Shame
It's almost like people can do whatever they want with their purchase. 🤷🏿
@@Naldo_S1K It is almost like the motorcycle community is filling up with posers.
@@Waldo1122 oh I agree. People go stink it up 1 time per year on the track and think they're Marquez. Posers.
@@Naldo_S1K Nope that is the clowns like ImKay riding around with no gear and have to duck walk their bike from every stoplight.
@@Waldo1122 ah there it is. Keep working hard and you too can have a beautiful bike collection and tons of sponsors.