Very good and accurate info! I followed the same path when I started! I wanted to add that the byproduct of liquid chlorine is NaCl (salt) which is ideal for salt water pools. You might be interested in electrolysis (swg) as a steady source of chlorine, it works great. Also you might be interested in the LSI or Langelier Saturation Index. We have 2 goals: perfect desinfection and swimwater but also longevity of our pool. Orenda have great blogs and a LSI calculator. Best regards!
I switched to Cal-Hypo due to high CYA levels last season. Now I know why the PH levels are always high . . . plan to add a NST Tab Feeder or NST Skimstack to better manage the Cal-Hypo Tabs. Great video.
It’s important to always adjust pH BEFORE adding chlorine. Chlorine is maximally effective in a fairly narrow range (7.2-7.6). Above 7.6 the oxidizing power is less than 50% of ideal
I tend to Dichlor because I don’t want to inadvertently mess with calcium hardness. But I only use it for shocking over night. For continuous chlorination I have my chlorine generator convert the salt water to chlorine via electrolysis. That’s new territory for me though. Thank you for this more technical approach to pool maintenance! I hate it when products just say „Pool acid“. Like but WHAT IS IT?
I have had an inground pool in the north east for 30 years. Each spring there is the ritual of getting it cleaned up and ready for use. It's nasty having sat months under a tarp. I used to use shock in little packets It was always an unsatisfying experience. Then one day at the pool store a pool person who works the trade told me how she does it. She dumps in 1 to 2 five gallon containers of 12% chlorine. And Bob's yer uncle the pool clears up in a few days instead of weeks.
I have been using Liquid Chlorine (Sodium Hypo)but after watching this I think I want to switch to Cap-Hypo. Can I just switch or do I need to do more adjustments to switch?
Step 1. Get a 'POOL RX' this will reduce chlorine demand to around .5 to 1ppm. It's about 50$ for up to I think 20k gal pool, it's the blue one. Once you have that, backwash your filter, put in pool RX and run it for a day. Then balance your ph, your alkalinity etc. If you raise your alk, then your ph goes up a little bit (baking soda) or if you need it down, get the muriatic acid at 14.5%. Once you get that, then for my pool which is around 17k gal, one gal of 10% chlorine (or just bleach DONT get spashless....it's heavy and sinks! Just get the strongest bleach you can) gets to around 3-5 ppm chlorine. Use an app like 'pool math' on iphone. I go through about 2 gallons a week at around 2.50 to 3.50 cents a gallon x2. Liquid chlorine is the way to go.
Critically useful. Mom adds Bleach and complains the pH is rising. Other customers aren't reporting high pH. We tried them all in small doses to kill algae in our COPPER-filtration pool.
Damn wish I found your video before figuring this out painfully and via chemistry books. So annoying people at the pool store don't understand basic science.
I primarily use only liquid chlorine. My water is naturally hard and cannot tolerate calcium contamination from cal hypo. A few tablets for the conditioner and only liquid chlorine works best here in Katy TX.
My pool came with a small filter system. Im constantly dealing with problems. Im wondering if i should use bleach. Since my ph is always up from shocking and sanitizing
Hi Belinda. Would you consider digging into using essential oils for sanitizing hot tubs. My wife and I just relocated but for the last 5 years we used only essencial oils in our hot tub with amazing results.
I worked at pool store doing construction and maintenance on pools for around 10 yrs. I am no expert on pool chemicals but a few things I picked up on: First, the copper in the Di-Chlor(?) causes a lot of mineral build up in your pool parts. Second, never ever, ever use household bleach. The additives are harmful for your pool components and, like you said, its only 5 or 6% chlorine. Use pool liquid chlorine. The good brands that are sold at pool stores are 12.5% bleach and are the cheapest best way to maintain your pool.
I have had the best results using the Nature 2 mineral system instead of chlorine. Ingredients Metallic Silver: 3.51%, Copper Sulfate Petahydrate: 8.23%, Other Ingredients: 88.26% I forget the pool maintenance for a month and still crystal clear and no algae on the north wall. A small chlorine floater in addition.
Chlorine compounds will treat the water once the bacteria etc have formed. It is better to use an 'AFM' system which creates clear 'drinking quality' water with far less chemicals and even less wasted water through 'back-washing' your filters (unless you aren't using media filters)...
@@BelindaCarr Hi B. As far as I know AFM can only be used in 'Sand' Filters (I refer to them as Media Filters but I did make that term up!). This video explains the process really well: ruclips.net/video/hOsSmnLfyBw/видео.html It is used in swimming pools and I am currently testing it with water features.
I just took the class and passed to get CPO Certified. You did an excellent job of explaining this and refreshing my memory. 🙂👍
I remembered my classes at the university with you. Amazing explanation, Thanks.
Very good and accurate info! I followed the same path when I started! I wanted to add that the byproduct of liquid chlorine is NaCl (salt) which is ideal for salt water pools. You might be interested in electrolysis (swg) as a steady source of chlorine, it works great. Also you might be interested in the LSI or Langelier Saturation Index. We have 2 goals: perfect desinfection and swimwater but also longevity of our pool. Orenda have great blogs and a LSI calculator. Best regards!
I switched to Cal-Hypo due to high CYA levels last season. Now I know why the PH levels are always high . . . plan to add a NST Tab Feeder or NST Skimstack to better manage the Cal-Hypo Tabs. Great video.
This helped a lot. I have learned that I have to get my pH levels right before adjusting the chlorine levels.
It’s important to always adjust pH BEFORE adding chlorine. Chlorine is maximally effective in a fairly narrow range (7.2-7.6). Above 7.6 the oxidizing power is less than 50% of ideal
I tend to Dichlor because I don’t want to inadvertently mess with calcium hardness. But I only use it for shocking over night. For continuous chlorination I have my chlorine generator convert the salt water to chlorine via electrolysis. That’s new territory for me though.
Thank you for this more technical approach to pool maintenance!
I hate it when products just say „Pool acid“. Like but WHAT IS IT?
Glad I found your take on this. After seeing your many informative vids I feel I can trust you. You are very knowledgeable
Excellent! Well explained, and so easy to follow. Thank you!
This is outstanding! Thanks so much for the focused informative intelligent content!
Correction. You said Cal-hypo is acidic but it's the opposite. It's highly alkaline. You even mentioned it has a high pH.
Acidic pH is 0 - 6.99
Alkaline pH is 7.01 - 14
Neutral pH is 7.0
So, high pH is alkaline and low pH is acidic.
@@floresgl She misspoke
Are there virtues to salt water pools?
Dang good description of CYA....thanks!
Best explanation
I have had an inground pool in the north east for 30 years. Each spring there is the ritual of getting it cleaned up and ready for use. It's nasty having sat months under a tarp. I used to use shock in little packets It was always an unsatisfying experience. Then one day at the pool store a pool person who works the trade told me how she does it. She dumps in 1 to 2 five gallon containers of 12% chlorine. And Bob's yer uncle the pool clears up in a few days instead of weeks.
Very informative..
I have been using Liquid Chlorine (Sodium Hypo)but after watching this I think I want to switch to Cap-Hypo. Can I just switch or do I need to do more adjustments to switch?
Can I use Cal hypo in a vinyl liner pool?
Step 1. Get a 'POOL RX' this will reduce chlorine demand to around .5 to 1ppm. It's about 50$ for up to I think 20k gal pool, it's the blue one. Once you have that, backwash your filter, put in pool RX and run it for a day. Then balance your ph, your alkalinity etc. If you raise your alk, then your ph goes up a little bit (baking soda) or if you need it down, get the muriatic acid at 14.5%. Once you get that, then for my pool which is around 17k gal, one gal of 10% chlorine (or just bleach DONT get spashless....it's heavy and sinks! Just get the strongest bleach you can) gets to around 3-5 ppm chlorine. Use an app like 'pool math' on iphone. I go through about 2 gallons a week at around 2.50 to 3.50 cents a gallon x2. Liquid chlorine is the way to go.
Critically useful. Mom adds Bleach and complains the pH is rising. Other customers aren't reporting high pH. We tried them all in small doses to kill algae in our COPPER-filtration pool.
Damn wish I found your video before figuring this out painfully and via chemistry books. So annoying people at the pool store don't understand basic science.
My pool was made with pebble mix (instead of tiles) and I notice it gets green a lot, which I believe to be algae. What helps kill algae the best?
I would like to hear your take on "saltwater" pools that generate chlorine. Just discovered your channel, and subscribed.
I primarily use only liquid chlorine. My water is naturally hard and cannot tolerate calcium contamination from cal hypo. A few tablets for the conditioner and only liquid chlorine works best here in Katy TX.
I’m in Katy, TX as well PM me trying to get my pool straight
Thank you.
Thanks
*SO, all three types have serious drawbacks.*
What to choose then?
Liquid chlorine is the least expensive and has no calcium and no cyanuric acid.
Excellent
Nice.....
My pool came with a small filter system. Im constantly dealing with problems. Im wondering if i should use bleach. Since my ph is always up from shocking and sanitizing
get a bigger filter
Hi Belinda. Would you consider digging into using essential oils for sanitizing hot tubs. My wife and I just relocated but for the last 5 years we used only essencial oils in our hot tub with amazing results.
What about oxygen shock!
I worked at pool store doing construction and maintenance on pools for around 10 yrs. I am no expert on pool chemicals but a few things I picked up on: First, the copper in the Di-Chlor(?) causes a lot of mineral build up in your pool parts. Second, never ever, ever use household bleach. The additives are harmful for your pool components and, like you said, its only 5 or 6% chlorine. Use pool liquid chlorine. The good brands that are sold at pool stores are 12.5% bleach and are the cheapest best way to maintain your pool.
Name brand bleach and store brands are very pure. You're drinking pool store koolaid.
bro its the exact same ingredients and its just diluted more.
Just get the household bleach without fragrance or softeners. Those additives are easy to avoid
Where can I get a 50lb bucket of Cal Hypo for just $215?
Leslie's, Amazon, Pool Supply...
poolsupplyworld.com/cal-hypo-pool-shock-50lb-bucket/14720.html
@@BelindaCarr yep, this is the best deal I found myself but when you mentioned $115/50lb, I was curious. Thanks, great video BTW! Are you a chemist? 😉
@@bhasins Thanks! Nope, I'm in the architecture field but I had a good foundation in chemistry in high school.
i can get you a 100lb bucket for $150
Thanks! Same product sells $150 but on sale this weekend for $127 and free shippibg. I’m loading it up.
I have had the best results using the Nature 2 mineral system instead of chlorine. Ingredients
Metallic Silver: 3.51%, Copper Sulfate Petahydrate: 8.23%, Other Ingredients: 88.26%
I forget the pool maintenance for a month and still crystal clear and no algae on the north wall. A small chlorine floater in addition.
Chlorine compounds will treat the water once the bacteria etc have formed. It is better to use an 'AFM' system which creates clear 'drinking quality' water with far less chemicals and even less wasted water through 'back-washing' your filters (unless you aren't using media filters)...
Very interesting! I had never heard of AFM before. I have a diatomaceous earth filter though. AFM can only be used with sand filters, correct?
@@BelindaCarr Hi B. As far as I know AFM can only be used in 'Sand' Filters (I refer to them as Media Filters but I did make that term up!). This video explains the process really well: ruclips.net/video/hOsSmnLfyBw/видео.html It is used in swimming pools and I am currently testing it with water features.
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