His past is his past I think a lot of people have become quite fond of him he was a young lad beginning his journey bless him so very very sad I hope the truth comes out , JUSTICE FOR JAY 💙💙💙
Jay's Parents are not together as a couple. His Mum will get nowhere on Tenerife. The Police there will close the case. It needs and independent investigation in the UK is necessary. I feel the CCTV audio from what happened at the beach is important. RIP Jay Slater.
@@pamala58 I felt the from day one there was something off about her. The Go Fund Me is such a scam. When she invited all her friends over to support her i thought she was milking it a bit. She's a grifter.
@@gemmahaney7730 we do have respect for the dead but we are entitled to have an opinion about Debbie Duncan and her grasping at the opportunity to benefit from this situation. She seems to believe that people are measured by the send off they are given. It's not about that. Death doesn't bring automatic respect or change how you've lived your life. Time will tell if the grift continues after the funeral.
@@norahstuart9147 some mother she is ive known from the beginning he was meant have been taken and lucy new as well becouse of the bag he lost the were telling lucy they wonted 30k then took jay untill she got the money thats why lucy started the gfm she rang jays mother and told her they took him and they wonted money so thats what she new and thats why she went over there. In her interview she was saying i just want him if some has him just let him go so she slipped up Nothing really adds up
@@maxinemcintyre8673 yes but before she landed or even left her home Lucy told her the story so she went over knowing someone had him. It was lunch on someone else's phone or a new phone and number that txt on Snapchat anonymously saying that witch covers their story some more.
@@jaynewilkinson4447 wouldn't you say that after all the things people were saying online.she wasn't there so she would have been listening and reading what was said about him and it probably made her worry even more thinking someone had taken him.she didn't witness anything,she would have been listening to what his friends said as they was there but then she probably saw the comments about drugs and the watch which made her think shit someone might have taken him.when your a mother in that position,your mind goes into overdrive on all the what ifs scenarios.
I think he was dealing and his mates did the dirty on him and took the bag , you can see he was also on something in the club , and was starting to get paranoid, think they spiked him too
People please, and I apologise if saying this is disrespectful to you in any way I am sorry. Could I just clarify something, when remains are found, and a formal identification is needed, which is quicker than waiting for DNA, if viable finger prints are able to be lifted from the person, this depends on where the body is located and the environment it was located, how the person died, and how long the body has been in situ. If Jay was up on that mountain where the average temperatures are milder, very windy, can get cold, even in summer, had fallen in undergrowth where he lay protected by the elements, then yes viable prints were taken, not because they found fingers or that he had only just been put there. They have been able to get viable finger prints off bodies submerged in water for weeks and I think up to three months and longer in some cases. Depending on the state or the stage of decomposition, they will use different techniques according to that stage, usually it is a process of adding hydration, to the hands. They could be submerged in chemicals of fluid injected in under the epidermal layer of the skin to hydrate the area. I won’t go into any more detail. However the fact that they got fingerprints is not a surprise, the fact that search dogs did not find him In the early days is also another thing that people are in the dark about. There are many different types of service dogs. One dog is trained in one job! For example the beagles at the airports are trained to sniff fruit, some are drug finders, even cash! some explosives. Not all dogs can differentiate these different substances. Then you have dogs that serve for living and deceased persons. Some are trackers, such as police dogs, they start on a start start point and follow that path. Trackers noses are to the ground. Air-scent search dogs, pick up on “hot” in the air, their noses are up in the air, thry are just looking for humans in general, they don’t need the last seen starting point like tracker dogs, some are pre scent. So they are given a person clothing and then made to try find that same scent. Cadaver’s are different again, they locate deceased victims. There are avalanche searchers, disaster dogs filling a weather event of earthquake, bombing where they need to find people in buildings that may have collapsed. Then there are water dogs who can find remains in water. So in saying that we do not know what type of dog or dogs were in the initial search for Hay I would assume air- scent or tracker dogs. Air scent are hampered by weather conditions rain/wind etc and if you remember in the early days we say reporters etc in those mountains and the wind was blowing terribly. In saying that some track and air scent search dogs may be trained as cadaver as well. But however I’m Unsure a small island like that would have a dog with both capabilities. Terrain and huge areas can reduce success , also some dogs dependant on type are either on a lead so can only go where its master goes and some m rain Free. So there are lots of variables. Just because there were a handful of searches up there looking over thousands of sq km and one dog is not a lot of people to cover tricky areas like that. Remember Jay was found in an area that was inaccessible needing ropes, abseiling down rock faces and a helicopter to take him out. If your thinking Jay was taken there and body dumped if the searches had difficulty getting down there? If people are trying to take a body down there I’m pretty sure they would have slipped off to their deaths too. It’s hard carrying someone who has passed away I can tell you I’m a nurse and taken care of patients bodies after there passing. It’s not like they are just sleeping I can tell you that much. Try do your research before coming up with silly ideas. It’s really quite horrible hearing people tallk about all these theories that are just off the plant, like they are talking about what they are gossiping at high school. This isn’t a joke a young man has DIED. Ask Yourself, how would you feel if the whole world were treating your brother or sister or mother like this, if you were grieving for them? You would be so angry and upset. Please think about how words can hurt others and leave this family alone now to grief. Let Jay rest in peace.
I have sensed from the beginning that Lucy told Jays mother the score. So she has known all along what was going on with Jay. Once the mother started asking for more for more and more money, they could NOT let him go, too much was out in the public domain and being so young Jay would not have been trusted to stay quiet. In my opinion
I think Debbie chose to employ the search team over pay a questionable ransom as he was probably already dead so they were to search for his location. Once the kidnappers knew the search team were about to start, they discarded his body.
Hmmm....would they still demand the money after they k*lled him off? Would the mom possibly be being blackmailed of sorts? Isn't 70,000 quite a lot for his funeral expense? Such a mystery...
Probably not after the money now well those over in tenerife that had something to do with it. The to guys jay went off with are bk in this country so it could be them wanting the money. There 70k un the gfm so she could easily pay them off and still have money for doing wot she has to. She getting to greedy asking people to 2 keep donating. She has more then enough
That poor woman Debbie. I dont blame her being desperate to raise the money to get that kid home,, thats when and only then she will get an honest opinion and idea of what happened to her boy,, thats if she can get he s so called remains
WELL, IT COULD ALSO BE, THAT THEY NEVER GOT MARRIED AND NOT JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT TOGETHER. YES, JAY'S DAD IS A SLATER WHICH IS WHY I SAID THAT THE SURNAME " SLATER ", IS HER PARTNER'S OR EX-PARTER'S, SURNAME AND NOT HERS. EVEN IF THEY WERE TOGETHER, SHE WOULDN'T HAVE THE SLATER SURNAME, UNLESS SHE'S MARRIED TO HIM.
Hi, if this were to be true I would like to know having been at Masca Gorge how would someone be able to haul a dead body and put them where he was found? Honestly that is just not possible, once you're down there you can't get back out unless you've the equipment to do so... hauling an 11 stone dead body for 3 hours to where he was found wouldn't be an easy task.. it just doesn't make any sense this whole thing
@@Kaj0699 I don’t - I let the jumpers come out in their own! Rarely I’ll pull the top or bottom card after shuffling but 99% of the time the cards that jump out are the ones I use ! Thank you 🙏 for your question
This what bugs me big time. Jay went missing for 5 weeks they had fire and rescue team and other crew and sniffer dogs. That's in spain. Our UK police wanted to help them to find jay but Spanish police said no to the uk police officers but Spanish police asked Norwegian police to help. 🤔 something wasn't right there. Where they were searching first they were a few feet away from where jay phone last ping. 🤔. Then jay mum apparently used some money from GFM page to beg people to keep searching lucy was too quick to leave the search to get back to the uk. She never be questioned by police about jay they only said they questioned the person who was convicted a drug dealer nothing on lucy. 🤔. Jay much done a lot with 1% percent battery making phone apparently to his mum and his other friend and lucy. Then England were playing semi finals and CCTV footage seen walking somewhere. So if jay supposedly went missing on 17th june it doesn't add up. Im only saying though
Yes, I hear so many bad comments about Jay and his past, and it's not fair, I looked back at newspaper reports from the time, and it,s not what people are saying.I just look at his face and I can't see any badness there.Witnesses said that he was on the periphery, not the one with the weapons. If you look at the.other boys though, you just look at them and.know what they are.Jay wasn't found guilty like the other boys of drug dealing and robbery and intimidation.He was only 16 and no previous convictions.
Guilty by association means you were there and there was 8 of them social media bandwagons totally disgusting what people say nowadays and everyone jumps on the same narrative
I saw yesterday that someone has been digging into Tom Hilton,s past, He has 15 convictions for 28 offences and was also in breach of 2 community orders.His last conviction was for attempted burglary, stealing a car, dangerous driving and leading a police chase at high speeds.He was sent to jail for 14 months, and the judge said "You have an awful record for someone.your age, and these offences are so serious that only a custodial sentence is appropriate ". His dad was a convicted drug dealer, and Lucy, Brad, and Brandon were very good friends with them.. Rumours are going round that he was at the rave, but keeping a low profile, and on tiktok it says Lucy has a drug dealer boyfriend, and it has been said before that it's him. Please could you do a reading. The person who found the body went to see what the smell was and notified the police and sent them a video.What she saw was horrific, I know what she saw, and she put it up on tiktok.It was in a cave, and people have confirmed they,ve seen it and it,s true, and someone said they saw another body there. The reason the police won't say the exact location where the body was found is because then the person would know it had been moved.That,s what I think anyway.
Funny way to start a new chapter of his life, by dealing & massively consuming....inspirational? You can't polish a turd! I have sympathy though, seems to be the world he was brought into...
I don't think it,s done either, I have heard these people are being watched and will face justice.
great news!
His past is his past I think a lot of people have become quite fond of him he was a young lad beginning his journey bless him so very very sad I hope the truth comes out , JUSTICE FOR JAY 💙💙💙
Jay's Parents are not together as a couple. His Mum will get nowhere on Tenerife. The Police there will close the case. It needs and independent investigation in the UK is necessary. I feel the CCTV audio from what happened at the beach is important.
RIP Jay Slater.
Thank you 🙏
@@dianeknight4839I think that's why she's doing the go fund me to raise money to fund investigators in the UK imo
Jay is local to me and dont believe all you hear she is a after all she can get.Cannot say to much but time will tell
@@pamala58 I felt the from day one there was something off about her. The Go Fund Me is such a scam. When she invited all her friends over to support her i thought she was milking it a bit. She's a grifter.
@@Tarot.Destiny yes.
Give over and have some respect for the dead too 😮
@@gemmahaney7730 we do have respect for the dead but we are entitled to have an opinion about Debbie Duncan and her grasping at the opportunity to benefit from this situation. She seems to believe that people are measured by the send off they are given. It's not about that. Death doesn't bring automatic respect or change how you've lived your life. Time will tell if the grift continues after the funeral.
That's awful
She knows what happened to him. She's always known.
Yes. She had a text day she landed
Definitely…
@@norahstuart9147 some mother she is ive known from the beginning he was meant have been taken and lucy new as well becouse of the bag he lost the were telling lucy they wonted 30k then took jay untill she got the money thats why lucy started the gfm she rang jays mother and told her they took him and they wonted money so thats what she new and thats why she went over there. In her interview she was saying i just want him if some has him just let him go so she slipped up Nothing really adds up
She didn't slip up, she said she,d had a message saying they had her boy
@@maxinemcintyre8673 yes but before she landed or even left her home Lucy told her the story so she went over knowing someone had him. It was lunch on someone else's phone or a new phone and number that txt on Snapchat anonymously saying that witch covers their story some more.
I believe with this because I think he was outnumbered a scuffle and fight he was attacked❤❤❤
Justice for jay rest in peace jay
In an I tetview jays mum said 😅f u have jay please let him go. She must have known someone had him
@@jaynewilkinson4447 wouldn't you say that after all the things people were saying online.she wasn't there so she would have been listening and reading what was said about him and it probably made her worry even more thinking someone had taken him.she didn't witness anything,she would have been listening to what his friends said as they was there but then she probably saw the comments about drugs and the watch which made her think shit someone might have taken him.when your a mother in that position,your mind goes into overdrive on all the what ifs scenarios.
I don’t blame Jays mum for wanting to find out what happened to her child it cannot be shoved under the carpet.
@@jacquelinehunt7794 👍
Thank you for sharing your words of wisdom. Many unknowns being covered up.
Thank you 🙏 for the support
I think he was dealing and his mates did the dirty on him and took the bag , you can see he was also on something in the club , and was starting to get paranoid, think they spiked him too
Can you possibly do a reading on the 2 air bnb guys and the owner? So many questions...
@@renhennigar8638 👍 will do
People please, and I apologise if saying this is disrespectful to you in any way I am sorry. Could I just clarify something, when remains are found, and a formal identification is needed, which is quicker than waiting for DNA, if viable finger prints are able to be lifted from the person, this depends on where the body is located and the environment it was located, how the person died, and how long the body has been in situ. If Jay was up on that mountain where the average temperatures are milder, very windy, can get cold, even in summer, had fallen in undergrowth where he lay protected by the elements, then yes viable prints were taken, not because they found fingers or that he had only just been put there. They have been able to get viable finger prints off bodies submerged in water for weeks and I think up to three months and longer in some cases. Depending on the state or the stage of decomposition, they will use different techniques according to that stage, usually it is a process of adding hydration, to the hands. They could be submerged in chemicals of fluid injected in under the epidermal layer of the skin to hydrate the area. I won’t go into any more detail. However the fact that they got fingerprints is not a surprise, the fact that search dogs did not find him
In the early days is also another thing that people are in the dark about. There are many different types of service dogs. One dog is trained in one job! For example the beagles at the airports are trained to sniff fruit, some are drug finders, even cash! some explosives. Not all dogs can differentiate these different substances. Then you have dogs that serve for living and deceased persons. Some are trackers, such as police dogs, they start on a start start point and follow that path. Trackers noses are to the ground. Air-scent search dogs, pick up on “hot” in the air, their noses are up in the air, thry are just looking for humans in general, they don’t need the last seen starting point like tracker dogs, some are pre scent. So they are given a person clothing and then made to try find that same scent. Cadaver’s are different again, they locate deceased victims. There are avalanche searchers, disaster dogs filling a weather event of earthquake, bombing where they need to find people in buildings that may have collapsed. Then there are water dogs who can find remains in water. So in saying that we do not know what type of dog or dogs were in the initial search for Hay I would assume air- scent or tracker dogs. Air scent are hampered by weather conditions rain/wind etc and if you remember in the early days we say reporters etc in those mountains and the wind was blowing terribly. In saying that some track and air scent search dogs may be trained as cadaver as well. But however I’m
Unsure a small island like that would have a dog with both capabilities. Terrain and huge areas can reduce success , also some dogs dependant on type are either on a lead so can only go where its master goes and some m rain
Free. So there are lots of variables. Just because there were a handful of searches up there looking over thousands of sq km and one dog is not a lot of people to cover tricky areas like that. Remember Jay was found in an area that was inaccessible needing ropes, abseiling down rock faces and a helicopter to take him out. If your thinking Jay was taken there and body dumped if the searches had difficulty getting down there? If people are trying to take a body down there I’m pretty sure they would have slipped off to their deaths too. It’s hard carrying someone who has passed away I can tell you I’m a nurse and taken care of patients bodies after there passing. It’s not like they are just sleeping I can tell you that much. Try do your research before coming up with silly ideas. It’s really quite horrible hearing people tallk about all these theories that are just off the plant, like they are talking about what they are gossiping at high school. This isn’t a joke a young man has DIED. Ask
Yourself, how would you feel if the whole world were treating your brother or sister or mother like this, if you were grieving for them? You would be so angry and upset. Please think about how words can hurt others and leave this family alone now to grief. Let Jay rest in peace.
I believe there was a lot ov them involved with the case
Someone else said drugged and J didn't know he'd died 🤔
@@GailTaylor-le8ge i seen that one just lol
@@melanieharrison6558 I've noticed most of the uncaring comments are from women aka so called mothers, interesting
@@GailTaylor-le8ge i seen that off card reader as well
I have sensed from the beginning that Lucy told Jays mother the score. So she has known all along what was going on with Jay. Once the mother started asking for more for more and more money, they could NOT let him go, too much was out in the public domain and being so young Jay would not have been trusted to stay quiet. In my opinion
I think Debbie chose to employ the search team over pay a questionable ransom as he was probably already dead so they were to search for his location. Once the kidnappers knew the search team were about to start, they discarded his body.
Great theory !!
Hmmm....would they still demand the money after they k*lled him off? Would the mom possibly be being blackmailed of sorts? Isn't 70,000 quite a lot for his funeral expense? Such a mystery...
Probably not after the money now well those over in tenerife that had something to do with it. The to guys jay went off with are bk in this country so it could be them wanting the money. There 70k un the gfm so she could easily pay them off and still have money for doing wot she has to. She getting to greedy asking people to 2 keep donating. She has more then enough
That poor woman Debbie. I dont blame her being desperate to raise the money to get that kid home,, thats when and only then she will get an honest opinion and idea of what happened to her boy,, thats if she can get he s so called remains
@@bernieryan1549 what do you mean get money to bring him home they set up a gofundme a d made thousands use that money.
Love eith Debbie Warren and zak and family ❤❤❤❤
I love your readings.
Thank you 🙏
many thanks sounds accurate x RIP Jay
Why do they need more money for his funeral. . Did he not have travel insurance?
@@kimlane6688 good point actually
HER NAME IS DEBBIE DUNCAN AND NOT DEBBIE SLATER. SLATER IS HER PARTNER AND HER SON'S SURNAME.
WELL, IT COULD ALSO BE, THAT THEY NEVER GOT MARRIED AND NOT JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT TOGETHER. YES, JAY'S DAD IS A SLATER WHICH IS WHY I SAID THAT THE SURNAME " SLATER ", IS HER PARTNER'S OR EX-PARTER'S, SURNAME AND NOT HERS. EVEN IF THEY WERE TOGETHER, SHE WOULDN'T HAVE THE SLATER SURNAME, UNLESS SHE'S MARRIED TO HIM.
@sparkle25-w1o EX-PARTNER OR NOT, SHE WOULDN'T HAVE THE SLATER SURNAME, UNLESS SHE'S MARRIED TO HIM.
Irrelevant to the reading ! She’s Jay’s mom .. who cares what her last name is ??
@@MMOTAROT JUST CORRECTING YOUR INFORMATION WHICH WAS INCORRECT. THAT'S ALL.
@@RS-ln3ns They are separated.
Debbie duncan
Thank you 🙏
Hi, if this were to be true I would like to know having been at Masca Gorge how would someone be able to haul a dead body and put them where he was found? Honestly that is just not possible, once you're down there you can't get back out unless you've the equipment to do so... hauling an 11 stone dead body for 3 hours to where he was found wouldn't be an easy task.. it just doesn't make any sense this whole thing
Ok will do
The Police refused to state his location 😮 he may not of actually been in the ravine .
@@Jamie-fq6xp he was in Juan Lopez barranco area, police will not state exact spot. Debbie instructed Dutch team to investigate further.
A car can drive that way plus tunnels
Hi from South Fl ✌️ 🌴
Hello there!
Send her Love BUT NO MORE MONEY
I did ❤
@@LoraW9997 ✌️👍❤️🙏
How do you pull up a card. Random or on a count or what ??
@@Kaj0699 I don’t - I let the jumpers come out in their own! Rarely I’ll pull the top or bottom card after shuffling but 99% of the time the cards that jump out are the ones I use ! Thank you 🙏 for your question
Thanks
Hey Liane! ✌️
@@renhennigar8638 hey Ren ❤️
Do you think they are using the other body and saying its jay, but it's not him
Not sure I’ll ask next reading
This what bugs me big time. Jay went missing for 5 weeks they had fire and rescue team and other crew and sniffer dogs. That's in spain. Our UK police wanted to help them to find jay but Spanish police said no to the uk police officers but Spanish police asked Norwegian police to help. 🤔 something wasn't right there. Where they were searching first they were a few feet away from where jay phone last ping. 🤔. Then jay mum apparently used some money from GFM page to beg people to keep searching lucy was too quick to leave the search to get back to the uk. She never be questioned by police about jay they only said they questioned the person who was convicted a drug dealer nothing on lucy. 🤔. Jay much done a lot with 1% percent battery making phone apparently to his mum and his other friend and lucy. Then England were playing semi finals and CCTV footage seen walking somewhere. So if jay supposedly went missing on 17th june it doesn't add up. Im only saying though
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Yes, I hear so many bad comments about Jay and his past, and it's not fair, I looked back at newspaper reports from the time, and it,s not what people are saying.I just look at his face and I can't see any badness there.Witnesses said that he was on the periphery, not the one with the weapons. If you look at the.other boys though, you just look at them and.know what they are.Jay wasn't found guilty like the other boys of drug dealing and robbery and intimidation.He was only 16 and no previous convictions.
Thank you for sharing this info ℹ️
Guilty by association means you were there and there was 8 of them social media bandwagons totally disgusting what people say nowadays and everyone jumps on the same narrative
He was there and watched
@@Tarot.DestinyNo, he was 16, he was 19 when he went to Masca.
I saw yesterday that someone has been digging into Tom Hilton,s past, He has 15 convictions for 28 offences and was also in breach of 2 community orders.His last conviction was for attempted burglary, stealing a car, dangerous driving and leading a police chase at high speeds.He was sent to jail for 14 months, and the judge said "You have an awful record for someone.your age, and these offences are so serious that only a custodial sentence is appropriate ".
His dad was a convicted drug dealer, and Lucy, Brad, and Brandon were very good friends with them..
Rumours are going round that he was at the rave, but keeping a low profile, and on tiktok it says Lucy has a drug dealer boyfriend, and it has been said before that it's him.
Please could you do a reading.
The person who found the body went to see what the smell was and notified the police and sent them a video.What she saw was horrific, I know what she saw, and she put it up on tiktok.It was in a cave, and people have confirmed they,ve seen it and it,s true, and someone said they saw another body there.
The reason the police won't say the exact location where the body was found is because then the person would know it had been moved.That,s what I think anyway.
AWFul Vids on utube recently put up a video of the real Lucy , lovely girl!
Seriously ? I have not seen any of these!!
Funny way to start a new chapter of his life, by dealing & massively consuming....inspirational? You can't polish a turd! I have sympathy though, seems to be the world he was brought into...
On replay.... Gail watching from UK.. enjoy your readings thankyou
Thanks for listening
Ppl like this make me sick