Peter Atkins | Religion Has No Place In Public Life (3/8) | Oxford Union

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  • Опубликовано: 17 дек 2024

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  • @OxfordUnion
    @OxfordUnion  4 года назад +2

    Watch the full debate here > ruclips.net/video/SlD8nKayMzU/видео.html

    • @ericfeldkamp3788
      @ericfeldkamp3788 4 года назад

      Did Atkins check that John Lennox wouldn't be participating before agreeing to present?
      ruclips.net/video/3PHoMWIlklA/видео.html

  • @Phoenix-King-ozai
    @Phoenix-King-ozai 3 года назад +11

    Is he the physical chemistry textbook author ?

  • @perthpete7906
    @perthpete7906 4 года назад +8

    Outstanding talk.

  • @szanndij
    @szanndij 4 года назад +10

    Is he P Atkins who wrote Atkins' Physical Chemistry? He should approach the motion with thermodynamics point of view.

    • @nickro2513
      @nickro2513 3 года назад +3

      Yes, and Inorganic too: Inorganic Chemistry Textbook by Cooper H. Langford, D. F Shriver, and Peter Atkins. I used his books as a student in Manchester and later as a teacher.

  • @Dr.yogesh2312
    @Dr.yogesh2312 4 года назад +9

    Religion is not the problem ,problem is the way of thinking .

  • @jesusfollower1631
    @jesusfollower1631 4 года назад +5

    "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." - Revelation 21:8
    Unbelievers are those who choose to reject God.
    God is holy.
    The wages for breaking God's law is death.
    All have fallen short of the glory of God so who can be saved?
    There is Good News.
    God came to Earth as the man Christ Jesus and paid the wages for our sins on the cross and rose again.
    Those who believe in Jesus are adopted into God's eternal family.
    Pray for Peter Atkins.

    • @tarangrathi4956
      @tarangrathi4956 4 года назад +1

      if your God kills people who don't believe in him, then you can keep that monster

    • @jesusfollower1631
      @jesusfollower1631 4 года назад +2

      @@tarangrathi4956 To borrow the analogy from Romans 9, God is the potter and we are the clay. God makes the rules. Your only choices are loving and rejecting God. Those who love God have eternal life in paradise and those who reject God have eternal damnation in the lake of fire. The punishment for rejecting your Creator must be proportional to the reward for loving Him. You are being given the choice. Proverbs 9:10 tells us that the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.
      Christ shed His innocent blood for the sins of the world. Nothing impure shall enter the eternal Kingdom of God. Only the blood of Jesus has the power to purify you so that you may enter. Jesus is the only way to eternal life.
      Those who believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ have eternal life.
      “15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
      16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.” - Mark 16:15-16
      Read the four Gospels.
      Matthew presents Jesus Christ as the Lion of the tribe of Judah.
      Mark presents Jesus Christ as the Suffering Servant.
      Luke presents Jesus Christ as the Son of Man.
      John presents Jesus Christ as the Son of God.
      Choose eternal life.

    • @Myhandleisthus
      @Myhandleisthus 4 года назад

      Thank you for sharing the good news.

  • @rlittlejohn2772
    @rlittlejohn2772 3 года назад +2

    Faith in a higher power brings people solace and home and courage and resolve, my grandmother was one among them. I wouldn't be here without her belief in a western deity. However she could not read very well but naturally intelligent. I became suspect immediately once I read origins or genesis.

  • @rudysimoens570
    @rudysimoens570 11 месяцев назад

    Brilliant!

  • @stuartg40
    @stuartg40 4 года назад +2

    How can you rock up to this event believing that reading from a script will be influential?

  • @euanthompson
    @euanthompson 2 года назад +3

    Atkins absolutely shoots himself in the foot when he brings up people like Stalin. In trying to foresee an objection he undermines his argument. Notice how Religious governments bad actions are because of their religion, but atheist governments bad actions are nothing to do with atheism but power. There is a double standard here that needs to be called out.
    At best Atkins showed a correlation between power and corruption, but he certainly gets nowhere near a causal link..

    • @АлександрМурашов-щ1ш
      @АлександрМурашов-щ1ш 2 года назад +2

      Sorry but the Soviet government wasn't atheistic. They had their own gods and saints, their own Reign of Heaven, Communism. Their doctrine of historical and dyalectical materialism was absolutely dogmatic and strange to the material facts.

    • @euanthompson
      @euanthompson 2 года назад +1

      @@АлександрМурашов-щ1ш weird how athiests always try to distance themselves from Stalin and his ilk by saying he wasn't athiest, he just held to some kind of materialism. You know, materialism, that famously athiestic belief.

    • @АлександрМурашов-щ1ш
      @АлександрМурашов-щ1ш 2 года назад +1

      @@euanthompson I am not an atheist,))) but I studied Soviet ideology, and if you are interested, I might recommend you some works on Bolshevism, it's not a materialists' case, you may trust me. In fact, Hannah Arendt was rather correct when she said that origins of the Bolshevism are in the Pan-Slavic movement, and this movement had its Utopian phase. I am from there, you see)

    • @АлександрМурашов-щ1ш
      @АлександрМурашов-щ1ш 2 года назад

      @@euanthompson In fact, Lenin was a materialist, and he was a bloody tyrant.

    • @euanthompson
      @euanthompson 2 года назад

      @@АлександрМурашов-щ1ш if Lenin was also an Atheist, so him being a tyrant means you precisely support my argument.
      Also isn't Bolshevism a political ideology rather than a theological one? If I am remembering this correctly I am not sure of the relevance.

  • @stuartg40
    @stuartg40 4 года назад +1

    Lesson One: How to destroy your oratorical ambitions by Peter Atkins
    ...

  • @garimasadwal3339
    @garimasadwal3339 4 года назад +1

    💯💯💯

  • @tanvikusum3574
    @tanvikusum3574 4 года назад +4

    Well formulated arguments!

  • @lesleymcconnach671
    @lesleymcconnach671 4 года назад +2

    Peter l fedup in home lockdown and the coronavirus
    Lesley Mcconnach

    • @zahramahde2096
      @zahramahde2096 4 года назад +1

      Please don't be upset from the stay home ...
      Look around you and take it personal you are still alive and I am assuming healthy Inshallah 🌺
      Find your way through this life to go and meet up after death we are he on th i s earth for a test from GOD Allah
      I left Iraq my country because of your country politian involving in our life...so we left but thank God not to Britain 🌺😊
      But I find my purpose so I am not that upset any more that they destroyed my country
      I am happy living in Isolation from my culture and family....
      We just t have to accept Allah will
      And this is the beauty of Islam
      🌺❤🙏

    • @donaldmcronald8989
      @donaldmcronald8989 4 года назад

      Religions soothe an aching and a longing like a child's pacifier.
      Once you see _why_ you're using the pacifier, you stop and you grow.

  • @sophie-963
    @sophie-963 2 года назад +1

    Hitler was a catholic not an atheist

  • @Freethinkingtheist77
    @Freethinkingtheist77 4 года назад +5

    Man, Peter Atkins is grumpy. As a Christian I appreciate the core of his arguments but I find his scorn and extreme caricature of religions and their adherents frustrating.

    • @thedefinitionoflife9192
      @thedefinitionoflife9192 4 года назад

      I think when he said he scorns people who believe in religion he lost me. You don't have to believe in a God or be religious but to be that angry about someone believing in something seems wrong. Perhaps he doesn't take into account that he could be wrong just as we could be wrong about our religion.

  • @maria369
    @maria369 4 года назад +5

    I assume he is an atheist.
    Separating religion from the state is one thing, I'm all for that but atheism is something totally different yet equally dangerous as the thing it hates.

    • @Chewy427
      @Chewy427 4 года назад

      people can question stalin's self-interested actions. people can't question the will of allah

    • @maria369
      @maria369 4 года назад +1

      @@Chewy427 Exactly!

    • @ericfeldkamp3788
      @ericfeldkamp3788 4 года назад +2

      @@Chewy427 are you suggesting that a subject of stalinist Russia could question Stalin's motives? Are you suggesting that I can't criticize Allah? You seem to have backed in to an alternate reality if that's the world you're living in.

    • @maria369
      @maria369 4 года назад +3

      @@ericfeldkamp3788 Communism and Abrahamic religions have so much in common, that's why they hate each other. Their only purpose is to spread fear and hatred, manipulate, stamp down, devide and hold back any kind of true progress. I honestly can't decide which is worst, Communism or Islam. I'd say Communism. Look at Northern Korea, all of them are slaves, whereas in Islamic countries only half of them are, the women!!!

    • @ericfeldkamp3788
      @ericfeldkamp3788 4 года назад

      @Ψ if a persons ethical decisions derived from their music taste, you may have a point.

  • @Bellehasan988
    @Bellehasan988 Год назад

    Foolish chemist,

  • @primeminister1040
    @primeminister1040 3 года назад +3

    This guy is a joke, like seriously, he's making such fascist statements while claiming to be a Liberal XD

  • @ericfeldkamp3788
    @ericfeldkamp3788 4 года назад +3

    I've heard good, strong atheist arguments. Not from this derisive old bore though.

    • @Chewy427
      @Chewy427 4 года назад +1

      not an argument

    • @m3awna
      @m3awna 4 года назад +1

      how about lenin, stalin governments?

    • @ericfeldkamp3788
      @ericfeldkamp3788 4 года назад

      @@m3awna what's the question?

    • @m3awna
      @m3awna 4 года назад

      @@ericfeldkamp3788 use your mind

    • @ericfeldkamp3788
      @ericfeldkamp3788 4 года назад

      @@m3awna you first.

  • @acedia4453
    @acedia4453 3 года назад

    Should have hired someone to read if that is all that was going to take place. You know who doesn't read? People who have the courage of their convictions and speak facts they have already worked out in their own minds. People who can speak from the heart and a mind replete with their own argument on a subject. This came off as nothing more than backdoor Islamophobia through my screen.

  • @zahramahde2096
    @zahramahde2096 4 года назад +1

    Read The Quran
    Its Good for your pocket, when you are a real Muslim you will save a lot of money because you will
    Be happy with less
    You will do exercise
    You will have people around you
    And definitely you can't gamble
    Please go and open your heart read Quran
    First before it's too late for you
    Islam is the relationship between two
    You and GOD

    • @mateothewizard1024
      @mateothewizard1024 3 года назад +1

      I'm just cooking some PORK would you like some? 🐷

  • @zahramahde2096
    @zahramahde2096 4 года назад

    There are after life
    Do you know why ?
    Because your are on earth is not accident...
    Or are you ???
    I know am not accident
    And so are you.
    I can't wait to hear all the good news about you convert to Islam 🙏❤🌺