There have been a ton of comments on this video referencing gender. I know everything going on with the Olympics this year and I have my opinions on that topic. That is 100% not applicable here. It is unfair and unfortunate for Liz that she be confronted with this type of unfounded criticism. Liz is in all ways a female and should not have to defend that fact. It is a shame and she should not have to deal with this. East vs West has never and will never host cross gender matches and Liz deserves some well earned respect.
Well maybe she should back off winny and anavar.....her jawlines huge of course shee getting critisizm. She may not be a guy ..but one thing is for sure there's a reason one looks like a girl and one don't....anabolic....period ....it's insane when women take it to far..... There's anabolics for men ..and there's anabolics "safe" for females... And this woman's clearly using some serious "supplements" ...u can't escape jaw lines and features. IDK what u do or who u are. I can tell if somebodys using from a mile away ..no disrespect. But it is what it is....I don't mind ..u do what u do to win.. but holy hell.
@@peatmoss8054 Well I've seen Elizabeth lose plenty of times before, so even if that were true, it isn't the advantage you think it is.
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@@fluffylittlebear Opinions not based on Elizabeth's wins or losses but rather the telltale signs of steroid usage. Her voice alone is telling. It is an advantage if those she competes against aren't on gear. Surely some are, but not all I'd surmise. 👍
It makes for better sport. Juice up if you're brave enough. These are professional athletes that means my entertainment is more important than their well-being.
Come on guys, Elizabeth pulled in EvW 8. She looks more jacked then that time against Carolina, so being heavy boned, probably taking lots of testoterone as well
It's almost like Levan is male and taking gear enhances his masculinity, whereas EM is female and taking gear makes her masculine right? Almost all people want to see feminine women and masculine men like it's naturally supposed be, not vice versa. Do you really expect people to see very masculine and clearly enhanced female competing against natural and feminine woman and not call bullshit? Same thing happens when enhanced male competes against natural male, people call this out because they see injustice and unfair advantage. And in this case it is taken to extreme because it's female and people don't want to see masculine women walking around and on top of that with clear unfair advantage.
@@inazuma-fulgur Однако есть девушки, у которых есть и "мужской" кадык. Такие изменения в строении связаны с гормональным сбоем и преобладанием тестостерона над эстрогеном. То есть когда в организме девушки мужских гормонов больше, чем женских. Такие случаи являются патологией, поэтому требуют медицинского обследования.
@@heavyrain2952there are no male or female hormons, they're naturally present in all humans and the levels vary because the categories of men and women are arbitrarily defined I really don't care as long as everyone sticks to the tournament rules
We need to see Lucia Debnarova in East vs West. Her endurance is incredible. Best of 5 or best of 7 will be great for her style. And I think she can make 60 kg weight also, and she will be even stronger then Dimitrina if her right hand is healthy.
All the top female arm wrestlers are juiced to the gills. It isn't just Elizabeth. She just has more masculine facial features so people pick on her for it, while remaining quiet about all the other 200lb women in arm wrestling.
I got to see Elizabeth pull in Delaplane VA. Looks like she's gained connection and a bit of technique since then. And yes, she is a woman, just a very muscular one.
Engin Terzi, if you continue to make matches on US Soil then will be no longer east vs west, and people from rest of the world will forget you and you will lose your big rispect, and for me you look like a guy who care for rispect about himself.
Thankyou ladies..bloody awesome stuff. Lots of love and respect to you both..champions..💪 I am disgusted by the people more interested in how they think people are supposed to look than the event. We are a big family and all are respected and admired. Noone talking crap in comments is my friend i can assure that.
Ferit geldi yapamadı Arif geldi yapamadı. Efe geldi yapamadı. Engin abiye sordum getiriyorum kaybediyorlar dedi. Ama yetenekli bi türk olursa yine getirecek. Burda en iyiler kapışıyor genelde. Şunlara baksana kardeşim bu maçtaki elizabet kadın değil bildiğin adam amk 😀
There have been a ton of comments on this video referencing gender. I know everything going on with the Olympics this year and I have my opinions on that topic. That is 100% not applicable here. It is unfair and unfortunate for Liz that she be confronted with this type of unfounded criticism. Liz is in all ways a female and should not have to defend that fact. It is a shame and she should not have to deal with this. East vs West has never and will never host cross gender matches and Liz deserves some well earned respect.
Wellsaid mate! The comments are a joke, known her for a while now, not once have I thought she had meat and two veg.
We understand but the amount of juice is basically making her trans lol
smd how about that
Well maybe she should back off winny and anavar.....her jawlines huge of course shee getting critisizm. She may not be a guy ..but one thing is for sure there's a reason one looks like a girl and one don't....anabolic....period ....it's insane when women take it to far..... There's anabolics for men ..and there's anabolics "safe" for females... And this woman's clearly using some serious "supplements" ...u can't escape jaw lines and features. IDK what u do or who u are. I can tell if somebodys using from a mile away ..no disrespect. But it is what it is....I don't mind ..u do what u do to win.. but holy hell.
I just say what my eyes see mate
She looks more masculine than Coach Ray. lol
You look less masculine than Aleksandra. 🤷♂
You look less masculine than Coach Ray, who are you then?
That's not that hard. His skin is so soft 😅
that jawline is wild af
Hahaha
I knew the comments will be wild.
Big arms vs big melons lol, I never noticed Alexandra has such big melons
And for no reason. If men are allowed to use peds here, so are women.
It's not fair man vs woman
The most masculine looking person on the whole card!
She has a more masculine face than David Goggins... WTF...
elizabeth seems to be very angry from her form and her chin seems like a classic case of roid rage
Элизабет выглядит как переодеться мужик
If I'm to guess, EM on serious gear.
at best... at worst he's just on estrogen and hormone blockers and would still have plenty of advantage.
@@peatmoss8054 Well I've seen Elizabeth lose plenty of times before, so even if that were true, it isn't the advantage you think it is.
@@fluffylittlebear Opinions not based on Elizabeth's wins or losses but rather the telltale signs of steroid usage. Her voice alone is telling. It is an advantage if those she competes against aren't on gear. Surely some are, but not all I'd surmise. 👍
@@peatmoss8054Levan gained like 200 lbs of muscle in a couple years, is that an advantage
So she should take more then@@fluffylittlebear
🙉Dang those drugs does a number on women
Unfortunately for women it’s permanent side effects for temporary results.
@DrewBahr I can't understand how they don't learn from the female steroid users the from the past
@@WhopperWednesday could be a coach telling her the dosage and she just went with it, happens to a lot of women
Steroide in armwrestling should be forbidden.
I agree
That’s a man wth
It should be banned in everything, but sadly then arm wrestling would be even less popular
if they were, you wouldn't be here, EvW and KOTT wouldn't exist. the sport wouldn't be anywhere
It makes for better sport. Juice up if you're brave enough. These are professional athletes that means my entertainment is more important than their well-being.
Sorry Russians, we got the gear this time 😂
У ВАС ЕСТЬ БАБА НА СТЕРОИДАХ !!! 🤦🏻♂️
X2😅@@АлексЛюберецкий
Wow a man vs a woman so fair
Поставили транса против Озеровой и довольны @@АлексЛюберецкий
jaws like a pitbull
Не видно что она женщина, 😅
Schoolboy should avenge her next time 😅
Aleks, I am so sorry...
I can smell tonn of roids from the screen
Imagine the clit growth LOL
the most athletes there are on juice lol doesnt matter female or male
Good thing Levan and Denis don’t do PEDS
Guys look cooler when taking PEDS tho.. girls look gross and physically change genders from it.. including their private parts...
They are also vegans who train once a week
lol
i heard they do yoga 5 times a week to build that strength to
@@HenryNehringThey do 20 daily pushups tho
I'm just here for the comments lol.
Elizabeth is on
Deca and Masteron
Or just estrogen and hormone blockers... dude would keep all the other traits of a biological male. that's plenty enough to crush almost any woman.
Encendido*
I think we need a junk check here
💀
Как мужик
он и есть
Come on guys, Elizabeth pulled in EvW 8. She looks more jacked then that time against Carolina, so being heavy boned, probably taking lots of testoterone as well
Tiene 3 piernas
Is that fair ….hmmmmm nvm let’s not change anything yet lol
@@Bigkumasarmwrestlingif she can’t take PEDs then neither can the men’s division…
All the top females are on PEDs. People only single her out because they find her less attractive and that's simpleminded and unfair.
@@rosepetal-ov7vl that’s why I nevermind, cause it will change a lot
sponsored by the beard struggle lmao
This wins best comment hands down.
Olympia 2.0
Let’s not pretend here, that’s a dude. Ironically bitching about setup not being fair 😂
She seems to be a sweet girl inside
😂
@@SangreFulete27deep so deep inside
sHE ate the little girl. Stuck in its throat. Or is that an Adam’s apple. ?
Levan is on serious gear. Why not the women right? Having said that, it just feels and looks wrong!
Devon is on serious gear too since 2021, gearless he almost lost to Chance
Ermes is on gear, Vitaly on gear, Morozov on gear, Denis on gear
Why do you mention Levan ?
It's almost like Levan is male and taking gear enhances his masculinity, whereas EM is female and taking gear makes her masculine right? Almost all people want to see feminine women and masculine men like it's naturally supposed be, not vice versa. Do you really expect people to see very masculine and clearly enhanced female competing against natural and feminine woman and not call bullshit? Same thing happens when enhanced male competes against natural male, people call this out because they see injustice and unfair advantage. And in this case it is taken to extreme because it's female and people don't want to see masculine women walking around and on top of that with clear unfair advantage.
*scratching my eyes out*
Aleksandra vs Marco
That jaw 🗿
А Элизабет точна она? ))
Это мужик, позор, кругом обман, что за ужас творится в мире
@@Людмил_Огурченко Вооще не показатель! ))
Илия
Ефект стероидов
она женщина, просто вирилизация от гормончиков
Look at the previous matches Elizabeth has pulled in. It might be gear or tes but it definitely isn't summer sausage swoll
schoolboys older brother needs to be in the next EvsW
Sorry but Aleksandra isn’t a 150 pounder. She def needs to go down.
Did you just call her fat?! 😂
@@Dennis-nx8gj no? I’m saying she’s small for the division.
Так в итоге кто мужик победил?
what is that ...
trans
@@juniordabbin710100 %
A match between Ayane & Elizabeth would be great. Ayane would definitely have a good chance, given the raw power she possesses.
They need a drug tested federation.
so who was in the front row that Elizabeth wanted to go against?
Aleksandra❤❤❤
alexandra ozerova sure is pretty..strong and beautiful
More masculine than tobi
Это же мужик 😂
Guess we know who was on gear in this one, 😂
откуда кадык у второй женщины?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
У всех женщин есть кадык. Обычно он чуть меньше мужского.
Women have adams apples fyi, it's not a mens thing
@@inazuma-fulgur Однако есть девушки, у которых есть и "мужской" кадык. Такие изменения в строении связаны с гормональным сбоем и преобладанием тестостерона над эстрогеном. То есть когда в организме девушки мужских гормонов больше, чем женских. Такие случаи являются патологией, поэтому требуют медицинского обследования.
@@heavyrain2952there are no male or female hormons, they're naturally present in all humans and the levels vary because the categories of men and women are arbitrarily defined
I really don't care as long as everyone sticks to the tournament rules
We need to see Lucia Debnarova in East vs West. Her endurance is incredible. Best of 5 or best of 7 will be great for her style. And I think she can make 60 kg weight also, and she will be even stronger then Dimitrina if her right hand is healthy.
Absolutely, I've been hoping she'd get on board for this!
Александра молодец, боец! 👍
One sided match
Testo...fuuuuu
Is that Bart Wood in pigtails? 🧐🧐🧐
😂😂😂
XY?
I like turtles.
Good work lizzy
Man and crying
Mocek is more masculine than Mindaugas.
Не дай бог такую жену.
Quién arregla estos eventos? Primero Georgi/Devon, luego esto, y después Devon/Leónidas
One is juiced other isnt it. Alek is much easier on the eyes. Eliza seems to have so much hate but but just the side effects of whats shes taking.
All the top female arm wrestlers are juiced to the gills. It isn't just Elizabeth. She just has more masculine facial features so people pick on her for it, while remaining quiet about all the other 200lb women in arm wrestling.
Totally agree. It is revolting and against my values.
That's a strong girl for a newbie In the sport....
Alexandra should not feel bad losing to a woman like Liz. She would have done much better against all other female armwrestlers.
Ахахах... Чисто по европейски, чисто по западному. Мужик выдает себя за женщину, потому что он так считает😂
Да это же "мисс самец" из "очень страшное кино"
Из-за таких матчей спорт перестает быть спортом... женщина против мужика... караул епта!!!
Sarah Beckman vs Elizabeth Mocek
Who will win?
8:13. “It looks like sh’s got 20% power advantage there”
LoL
Alexandria is a great champion!
Red girl is hot 🔥🥵
I got to see Elizabeth pull in Delaplane VA. Looks like she's gained connection and a bit of technique since then. And yes, she is a woman, just a very muscular one.
Oh yea, you sure about that one? Have seen under the hood or...?
Come on that face & voice its not fair. 😅
Sì è una donna ma piena di steroidi a questo punto tanto vale...
@@truthiscriminal Have you?
Engin Terzi, if you continue to make matches on US Soil then will be no longer east vs west, and people from rest of the world will forget you and you will lose your big rispect, and for me you look like a guy who care for rispect about himself.
In the second round Elizabeth had a big elbow foul before pinning. EvW referees are not fair these days
felicidades al campeón
Trans vs women😂😂
RUclips algorithm boosting comment 💪 ... Aleksandra is really good, so this just shows how strong Elizabeth is! the gym is her second home.
Engin, c'mon man, I wanted to see Matt Mask vs Lars Rybakan... Not whatever this is... 😂
Мутантка победила 😂😂
Wtf is this?
-Elizabeth mocek vs Nisa camadan.
-Carolina petterson vs Dimitrina petrova.
-Elizaveth resthenik vs Esra kiraz 😂😂
People place too much into the comments of fools on RUclips. It was a great match!
Girl vs......😂
Ella esta compitiendo contra un hombre!!!! es injusto
Yeaaa budddy! Light weight!😂 poor aleksandra had to face this
I'm afraid of her more than Levan and Devon put together...
Man vs women and he didn't win easy
Fia vs Elizabeth should be a good match
Normally when you see a woman with this kind of mad sculpted Leonardo da Vinci jawline, she use to or is still in on gear.
Even her/his voice is weird 🤣🤓
Elizabeth looks like a constipated disney villain.
The calliope music playing in the background was a nice touch.
Alot of testosterone on stage😂😂😂
For me it is a prove for using too much juice !
Look at her few Years ago , beautiful.
Great match ! ❤
Thankyou ladies..bloody awesome stuff. Lots of love and respect to you both..champions..💪
I am disgusted by the people more interested in how they think people are supposed to look than the event.
We are a big family and all are respected and admired. Noone talking crap in comments is my friend i can assure that.
Esra kiraz oğuzhan koçak ve ferit ide burda görmek istiyoruz engin hocam
Ferit geldi yapamadı Arif geldi yapamadı. Efe geldi yapamadı. Engin abiye sordum getiriyorum kaybediyorlar dedi. Ama yetenekli bi türk olursa yine getirecek. Burda en iyiler kapışıyor genelde. Şunlara baksana kardeşim bu maçtaki elizabet kadın değil bildiğin adam amk 😀
Yikes!!! Engin really needs to have a drug tested division
He is stronger than his opponent lady
Laces out!
ELIZABETH MOCEK мужик воплати(((((((((( это полный пиз....... ц
Wtf is she he
Да ну нах...
Это мужик
Engin, EvW needs its own branded straps.
Испанский стыд какой-то, мутанта допускают бороться 😂
Who did she call out?