Just disable everything on your 2nd router and allow it to bridge and use ssid from first router and thats it. It wont give you 2 ssid to switch automatically and only one router is the main one regulating the dhcp while the 2nd one just gives extra coverage.
@tongvang724 Although that can work it can also cause stability issues if they were not designed to work together. So if it's like ASUS's AiMesh it'll work great but if you are using brand "A" and brand "B" then the second router in bridge mode effectively becomes an accidental rogue access point. This can still work but over the years when I've been called in to diagnose weird WiFi problems so if I identify this configuration then I ask them to reboot both routers starting with the main one running DHCP then the other one(s) and if it resolves the issue then either live with the issue, change the hardware or change the SSID on each router and let signal strength and the device choose when to move from one SSID to another.
@1:29 if you have 2 separate network ids (192.168.10.x and 192.168.0.x with /24 mask) you cant see a host on either network from the other network in either direction. Also this video should be called how to connect an access point or mesh network. One reason for setting up 2 routers on the same network is so you can have 2 separate networks sharing one internet connection. Setting up an access point or mesh leaves you with the same network.
@dannyl6507 I tried to cover all scenarios in this video and let me break down something a little more for you. If network A is 192.178.10.0/24 and Network B is 192.168.0.0/24 And network A is connected to the modem and providing Internet connectivity to network B. Then that router for network B's WAN port let's say gets a DHCP address of 192.168.10.47 or you manually configure it which would be needed to route traffic between them if that's needed. But the LAN ports on both routers *DO NOT* have connections between them then network B can access say a printer on network A because it's not getting a public address. However going the other way won't work without setting up routes if that's even supported on your router. You may be able to configure a VPN between the routers which may be the easiest solution in an environment where both routers are running DHCP servers. Potential issues that I've ran across when I get called in to look at a network with intermittent issues is usually caused by a cabling loopback ok hardware that can't detect the issue to disable a port. You can see this in Wireshark as constant traffic with just a couple of machines turned on and not necessarily doing anything either. If I were to make a follow-up video on this what additional information do you think would be helpful to everyone?
@@ShinyTechThings This video shows a good example of how to setup the connections so the networks can not see each other. ruclips.net/video/xyPniGTtRks/видео.html
@Budget Gaming HD Do you name them the same SSID? I don't recommend this in most cases because some devices can get confused but it depends. As long as DHCP is handled by the main router you shouldn't run into IP allocation issues.
@@ShinyTechThings Same SSID my dude ;). DHCP comes from the same router yes. I have 4 routers in my house on this network config. 2 Mikrotik HAP`s and 2 TP links 1200AC... Its all about how aggressive the roaming is, ive set mine to drop at -76dbm so its quite sensitive even if I move rooms. So I never loose connection" Technically
@Budget Gaming HD True but also potentially limited by what the hardware supports but you could potentially also lower the broadcast power but some consumer routers don't have settings for that or are just high / med / low but then again you could move the placement of it as well.
Hey, thanks for the video. If my modem is a modem/router combo and I have two additional routers (same brand) that I want to use to extend the modems wifi signal to other parts of the house, how do I set it up so they all share the modems same SSID? The goal is to extend the coverage of the modems wifi and prevent from having to join different SSIDS throughout the house. Taking it a step further, will the users device (iPhone) just jump to the stronger signal automatically? Thanks a bunch!
@EEZYEEEE So what you want is possible, however there is a good probability of having issues with it. So the modem/router would need to handle the DHCP and the other routers would need to be in access point mode. If that's not possible then you would use a LAN port after disabling the dhcp on each router, however it would need to be statically configured outside of the DHCP range on the router but let me break that down. If the modem/router (gateway) has an address of: 192.168.1.1 And the DHCP range is: 192.168.1.50-192.168.1.254 Then the LAN IP on your routers would have to be a single address for each router between: 192.168.1.2-192.168.1.49 What are the makes and models numbers of everything? What I typically see go wrong is that devices drop because each same SSID is technically a rogue access point so the devices can get confused on what to do especially if mixing makes and models. I've also seen when the main router gets confused when devices hop between the SSID's and the temporary fix is to reboot the main router that's running DHCP or reboot everything. If you have Asus routers you can use Ai Mesh and just put the modem/router into bridge mode. How many SQ ft is your place and what's the construction materials? Please let me know if what I provided helps or if you have any for the questions.
Hi I have done all you have said and it works really good I can connect my laptop and my phone on the second router and my firestick but I can't get my smart plugs to connect at all they only connect to the frist router which is upstairs and I really need them to connect to the second router which is downstairs any help would be very much appreciated
I just connected my secondary router to my first router, basically plug and play without doing anything mention in this video, and now i have 2 working routers in 2 different networks with different SSID passwords, they been working without any problems😂 I don’t know if I did it the right way but hey it’s working.
It depends what your purpose is of having the two networks and whether or not you have nodes on the second network that you need to access from the first or even from the internet. If you do need to access things behind multiple routers than you would have to double NAT everything. So a rule from the outside coming in would be matched and then take that rule and connect it to the second router then connecting to the device. If you don't need to access things on the second network from the first network then you should be mostly fine. The problems that I have seen pop up is where DHCP has an issue on the first router that it needs to be rebooted to get the second router working again.
@@ShinyTechThings I don’t know if you are familiar with the ring alarm base station pro. so I bought the ring base station pro that comes with the Integrated eero wifi 6 router, ring told me I needed to use the base station pro as the main router for my network but I don’t trust ring router to be as main router since already have a good wifi setup in my home, so what I did is just connect my ring pro station to my main router (nighthawk) and now I have 2 separate networks with 2 different wifi password. The base station router (eero wifi 6) is online but is only for my ring door, window sensors and ring cameras. My phones, laptops and other devices are run thru my main router wifi (nighthawk) I did this about 4 weeks ago and is been working good. But I’m been reading different opinions and some of them said it will only work temporary since I need to change the ip on my secondary router which it would be the ring base station, what do you think? 😂 I’m not export on this field I just did the plug and play connection and I think is working.
@@ShinyTechThings so how to solve this. I have 2 routers & second connected from lan to lan wired. 2nd routers shows no internet many times have to restart. 1st router ip is 192.168.1.1 & 2nd router have 192.168.0.1 both are different brand routers. Any change in settings required? I just plugged and it works few minutes then have to restart router to make it work again. 1 more thing when trying to access router setting on 2nd router which has ip 192.168.0.1 it doesn't open page & when i unplug lan cable it allows me to open page again. how to fix all these please help. Thanks
@ContenidoGeneral I think I am in similar situation with alarms and new nighthawk I have no set up because I'm nervous I'll mess it all up. 2 seperate routers connected for different devices etc etc
@facebookmakesmesick I need to know more about your environment but it comes down to if you're going to be using 2.4 gigahertz but the only channels you can use are 1, 6 and 11 with 20 megahertz width. If any of your neighbors are using other channels or running at 40 megahertz channel width then they are causing interference if you are able to receive a signal from their Wi-Fi.
@MultiGoodriddance you would have double NAT'ing it's Just painful to maintain if you make changes regularly. Double Network Address Translation (NAT) if you are not familiar with it is basically translating the incoming going into a device on the network. So if you have say a Plex server that needs to be reached from outside, you would have some kind of NAT rules for port forwarding. A security feature would be if a hacker compromised your first router from it being unpatched whether by negligence or the manufacturer just not putting out any updates because they don't care and want to sell you the next router. Then the hacker would have to do that twice. And if they are completely different makes and models then it's just a lot more work for somebody to break through it even if there are known CVE's for exploitation.
@shinytechthings ok, thanks. I'm setting up a 2nd Linksys router for a friend. The friend was told the 2nd router will provide additional security but from what I'm reading if I set it up and it has its own dedicated i.p address and no DHCP then it's an access point with no extra security as all the dhcp and nat will be handled via the original modem/router currently being used
@MultiGoodriddance If you set it up as an access point then it has no additional firewall or security components. Also if it doesn't natively support AP mode sometimes DHCP from the main router will get confused and you might need to reboot one or both every one in a while. I've seen this and it's just what it is because you can make it perform a certain way but the firmware wasn't supported for what was being done.
Thank you for this valuable information.❤ I have a main router and I would like to be connected to the second router without having to connect to the main router. So, is this possible because I want to dedicate a router to games only?
If you need internet connectivity then the router would need to be connected to another router upstream. What are the males and models of your routers and I'll look to see what all is supported and let you know.
@mohammednasseralmuhairi7145 The Asus router is definitely able to handle a lot more traffic than the old D-Link. What speed of internet do you pay for?
It is 4200Mbps / 160Mhz, so there is one that is a little higher than it, which is the Tuf gaming 5000, but I took this. All routers do what they should do, regardless of the speed, because I will use it for one room only, and I will use it because it supports VPN, and this what I was asking you about. If i activate VPN on the router, It will work for me on my Xbox because I ask myself this question. I don't want to lose money for nothing.
Great video. I have the exact problem you describe at 1:35 with the double NAT situation. Do you have a video on this already ? I've tried bridging and halting dhcp but nothing works. I need the second router to perform as normal. These networks are separated by 700 feet of fibe optics.. Thanks !
@rickyclerk3700 If you don't mind, could you please describe in detail what port is connected to, what port and the different configurations of everything and also makes and models of the equipment?
Sure, here's the corrected and clearer version of your text: I currently have an Asus AiMesh network, but I'm encountering issues with my IoT devices, especially light switches, disconnecting multiple times throughout the day. There are approximately 70 devices connected in total. I'm considering purchasing a Cisco router connected to the Asus intranet to establish a separate 2GHz network for the smart devices, aiming to reduce the number of connected clients on the AiMesh network.
@djacirjr I vaguely recall an in depth conversation with someone else a year or so ago about some WiFi bulbs that would work after rebooting the router. They fixed by using a cheap TP-Link that actually ran on the same CPU but the difference in the firmware resolved it. You could try running Merlin firmware to see if that helps. From what I remember it's because their bulbs didn't meet the Wi-Fi design spec. Basically poorly designed firmware that when attached to Asus who did properly implement it, would break their bulbs.
@@ShinyTechThings hi 2 router TP-Link Archer AX73 vs 2 router ASUS RT-AX55 which is better to buy? yes I plan to buy 2 router for big house with 2 floor, in my place is same range price. I look for who can cover more area and stable. I use 100 Mbps from my isp btw
@@ShinyTechThings so based on stable signal and coverage area they are same? and you prefer asus because the firmware update system is better in long term?
@LockheedMartinF-22Raptor-y8i since I don't have one of each I can't test the distance or build a heat map but before I switched over to Ubiquiti gear I'd only use Asus personally and usually flash over to their Merlin firmware. I know a few people that ran Ai Mesh firmware and it works flawlessly provided that the distance between the units is not too far or running Ethernet to the second one has always been rock solid. But back to the question about the firmware, to me that's extremely important because of how quickly a CVE gets exploited in the wild is rapidly increasing every year. Meaning if the manufacturer does update but rarely you could have security holes until they release a fix. Asus seems to be a bit more responsive than other manufacturers out there at that price point. Does that answer your question?
Yep just as I expected. Impossible for anyone who is not a computer expert to do. 😂 thanks for letting me know I definitely have to call a professional.
I don’t get it. This explanation was pretty straight forward. You went through it step by step… even explaining that you needed to plug in power to the router. lol. I just don’t get all these comments about how this is way to complicated n
@samuelpeinado1267 true, but everyone understands different levels of complexities When it comes to technical stuff. I had a doctor at a hospital years ago cussed me out on the phone when I asked them if they rebooted the computer and they said they were doing that 20 times during the call. It turns out he was pushing the button on the monitor 🤦♂️🤣 after I got the computer name to remote to I showed him how to restart the computer and it came back up and the application that was crashing worked and he just hung up promptly after that. I say this because everybody has their own things in life that they are good at and not good at. Technical stuff is my strength but my communication skills are not always perfect for everyone although I do try.
Hello sir, I am happy to benefit from your clip. I know that we have talked a lot recently, but I have a question regarding PPPoE. How can I activate it and how do I make the other router just a provider and not the main one? The device for another is TP-link, so there is no option to make it a provider or an access point. Thank you, wherever you are, if you are. Read what I write here ❤
I'm not quite understanding what you mean by this. If your ISP requires PPPoE To authenticate then the router that connects to them needs to use that not the one that is behind that router. So your second router you should be on a different local network and it's WAN port would be connected to a LAN port on your first router *IF* Your intent is to have two separate physical networks. Does this help? If not, please describe in more detail what you're looking to do.
I want to use the second router's USB port to put shares (media sharing, FTP, samba) that will be accessible on the first router's network. Configured as an access point, it won't allow those shares to be created and deployed.The second router, wired connection to the primary router, is to be in a fireproof gunsafe in a concrete room,, shares for backups and important stuff in case of fire or other disaster. I don't like cloud or other offsite storage, especially since our internet kind of sucks. What to do? Double NAT and porting seems like a pain. I would just login to the second router's wifi but the signal from inside a steel firesafe in a concrete root cellar just won't work. Not into the expense of a good NAS since I already have the routers. Funny problem, eh? Thanks for the channel!
@TheGhung Fu if you put the second router on the first routers network using a LAN port but *FIRST* you need to give it a static IP address on the first network that is available and turn off the DHCP server on the second router so it basically becomes a switch since you are no longer using the WAN port. Let me know if that works for you or if you need me to clarify anything else.
@@ShinyTechThings Thanks! I got things working well now. I'm now able to use the second router, now an access point, as an ftp server for my security cams which are hard wired to the main network switch. Nice to have separate NAS for camera storage so I don't overwork the main backup/DLNA NAS drive on the main router. What fun!
@TheGhung Fu glad to hear that you got it working. Just note if running in AP mode and if the SSID is the same it can cause issues as it's not mesh with fast roaming.
@@ShinyTechThings Since I don't need anymore wifi bandwidth and hard-wired my cameras, I turned the radios off in the second router (access point). I can still use it as a LAN switch but the primary need was for a second NAS/ftp server. I'm not a big fan of connecting everything wirelessly. All of my cameras and the second router have static IPs set, with reserved addresses on the main router. I'm really liking these TP-Link routers by the way. Easy to manage and great bang for the buck. The USB3 ports and NAS functions work well and it's easy to setup shares,, all that. Thanks!
The user manual of my Netgear R7900P router says that if you want to use the R7900P in AP mode then plug in the RJ45 cable coming from the primary router in to the "internet" port of R7900P. If I do this (as per user manual) am I creating a double NAT situation even if I chose AP mode in the R7900P setup page? How do I check if I am in a double NAT situation?
@bzldzl in AP mode it shouldn't be routing anymore, just providing Wi-Fi so DHCP should be coming from your primary router and not the R7900P in AP mode.
@@ShinyTechThingsT-Mobile 5G Home Internet. They have provided me with a Sagencom FAST 5688W modem/router combo. I like the 5ghz DFS ability that gives me super fast speeds. I am using R7900P in AP mode for chuckles and grins😂.
@bzldzl because they are different manufacturers. If you have problems using the same SSID as your main router, then I would recommend changing the SSID of the AP mode router and just set both SSIDs to automatically join on your devices.
no problems with 2x/3x NAT doing banking transactions. NAT involves intensive cpu and memory processes. Turn a router into an AP is a waste of resources ( basically acts as a dumb switch ). Just ~12 IoT can crash a router with NAT on.
I've never had that issue even with consumer gear. It's just additional maintenance with NAT on more than one router. What router did you experience this on where it was crashing with a dozen IoT devices on it? Also what were those devices?
Hey maybe you can help me because im trying to do this with seperate networks off of the same modem. I have 4 bedrooms rented out in my house and it is 4 stories. I want to run 3 seperate extenders to the seperate bedrooms and give each tenant their own seperate wifi network. Is there a way i can accomplish this without ip conflict? My modem has its own wireless built in and 4 lan ports. I dont know if i should jse the modem wifi as access point 1 or if i should instead do 4 routers and shut the modem wifi off. Is this possible to do? I was planning on doing a hardwire setup with each lan port off the modem serving the wan port of each individual router rather than bridging 1 router to the next.
@JOIHIINI the 4 ports to 4 routers will work as long as their internal networks are different. E.G. 192.168.1.X 192.168.2.X 192.168.3.X 192.168.4.X 192.168.5.X Then each wan port of those 4 routers would get a 192.168.1.X address if that's what your main router is setup as. Does that help?
@ShinyTechThings it does but there's one thing that's confusing me, do they other routers have to be 192.168.1.x, followed by 192.168.2.x? Wouldn't it just be 192.168.1.5 192.168.1.4 192.168.1.3.... and so on? Or does the 2nd last digit need to change too?
@JOIHIINI sort of... So 192.168.1.X where the X represents that specific device's address. Typically the router's internal IP will end in .1 so .2-254 are able to be used for devices typically over DHCP so you can connect and it just works. The 3rd octet (1 in this case) is basically the network address. So unless there is a route between 192.168.1.X and 192.168.2.X then they cannot communicate. Things get a little complex quickly but let me know if this helps or if I need to clarify it more.
@ShinyTechThings Okay so just to clarify 192.168.1.x and 192.168.2.x cannot communicate if 2.x has its Wan port wired to 1.xs lan port? Man is there any way I could direct msg u and give u some details. It's honestly really hard to find this information anywhere and I'm not even inexperienced I'm a linesman that installs modems and lan cables for a living lol. The disconnect is that we just use the default 192.168.2.1 for our modem and then tell the client if they want a complex setup they gotta handle it. In 9 years I've still got very little internal network experience. It's always "not my job, not my prob" lol.
What if the 2 routers that your hooking up to the main router are both linksys should I plug in the ethernet port or the other ports. I looked and both ip adress are different on the 2 routers I ran I would like to make it so it's the right connection I am using the linksys app
@pacman depends on what design you want. If you want a single network, use the LAN ports on the other routers and disable DHCP on them but keep it running on the main router.
@Shiny Tech Things the way it's been working at the moment has no issues or anything. I just didn't wanna switch everything if I don't need to. But I will try It as single network and if it works out better I'll keep it that way. Great video!
This is scary loop hole very scary if subnet and subnet then on front bench would need a gauging scrypting to id the route to back end so no risk on misidentified
@@boygeorge6808 I made this over 2 years ago so hopefully my editing has gotten much better. Should I remake this video? Now we layer the sound frequencies and do audio ducking so it should sound much nicer on my newer videos.
Do you have both routers already connected together over a single cable? What port is being plugged to? What port and what makes and models are the devices?
@ernieg ideally you want to disable the Wi-Fi on your modem and turn that into a bridge. Meaning it acts as just a modem. But if you are renting it you might just want to see if you can buy your own modem and save a little longer term. Then use the most powerful ASUS that you already have as the main router and the second one with AiMesh firmware. If you can hardwire them you can get higher speeds otherwise put it at one place and test it all around the house. Then move it a little further or closer depending on what the coverage looks like and your needs. You may end up needing a third Asus router depending on the square footage and construction materials used in the home but AiMesh does a great job with expandability especially if you already have an Asus router and upgraded then you can use your old one provided it's supported to extend your network seamlessly.
@@ShinyTechThings ThankYou for your fast reply. Here is my situation I have spectrum modem to 1) Asus router then it’s hardwired to second router. Then hard wired to a older Asus Router but what I want to know what should be the proper way to hook up ?
@mr.n476 What type of device are you listening to it on? With or without headphones? Is it just this video of mine or are there others that are better or worse? If I have any that are better please let me know so I can see what I may have done differently with the sound editing. I appreciate all feedback and constructive criticism.
That is about the worst and most confusing Explanation I have ever heard on how to set up multiple routers on a home network. Most people will not have a clue as to what you are talking about. If you want to teach someone something, you need to be able to bring it down to a level and use terminology that a layperson can understand. You have to assume that the people or person you are trying to teach, knows nothing about the subject and explain in simple terms how to do something. I have no doubt that you know your subject inside out but unfortunately, you don't seem to be able to explain things so that the ordinary man in the street can understand. You have to realise, the people who come on this channel, have come here to learn how to do something they are not familiar with and it is your role as a "Teacher" to tell them in terms they will understand. I am a karate instructor and when a newcomer joins my class, I teach them at a level they will comprehend; I don't instruct a white belt using blue belt techniques and terminology.
@way2go-fh4lc I appreciate your constructive criticism, what explanation didn't make sense to you and I'll do my best to explain it using a different approach. What is the current design of your network and what are you looking to do with what additional hardware that you have?
@@ShinyTechThings his right, for years i tried to extend wifi range by listening to all videos like yours but never was able to.I finally found a video saying its just plug n play no need to go on server etc.5 minutes i made it.your video and many other video are very bad because they over complicate something simple.now i can connect multiple buildings with the same internet with different routers.
@drincogni I need more information on the scenario you had and makes and model numbers of the equipment. I have worked on a *LOT* of Wi-Fi networks over the years and I've seen soo many incorrect configurations so I tried to cover every scenario. I genuinely appreciate your constructive criticism and would like to know how to improve. The closest thing to plug and play would be mesh nodes and using a single brand. What would be an improved approach and how can I do this better?
@@ShinyTechThings basicly i just bought any router at the lowest price ,plug 1 side of the ethernet from the main rounter to the 2ndary router lan port.thats it put password in other devices.something a 68 year could do achieving the same result your video above talked about while not being able to be done by a 68 year old who doesnt know anything about internet
@drincogni The problem with that configuration is that if you do not disable DHCP on the second router then you can have two routers both assigning addresses. It can work until it doesn't. I've seen it where it works for anywhere from a day to a month but usually not longer and you have to reboot one or both of them to fix it. The only time I could think that this would not occur is if the other router is so underpowered that it is so slow on the responses that the main router is always what is being used or vice versa. If you were to take a wire capture of the network, I suspect you would see unneeded chatter on the network that ultimately will cause issues requiring reboots regularly.
@notgoosie2016 since you can get to the internet then you most definitely have a modem. Although you might have a modem router combo which could also be called a gateway. A modem is what connects you to the cable that your internet service provider brings into your house and converts that over to ethernet. A modem does not do any routing or Wi-Fi.
@@ShinyTechThings sorry but I have watched so many videos on this subject that I cannot recall at what point you lost me, nor with this RUclips system I cannot just click from your response to me onto the video to re-watch. (I went searching back and when looking for your account but gave up.) I have come to another roadblock. I have a cheap laptop that I was going to use as part of the wired router access point. I just found out that it does not have an Ethernet port. So, I and both confused and have a logistics problem. Thanks for responding. Doug
@dougwarren8569 Thanks For sharing the information that you can't even get back to this video from comment, which I'm assuming you get from email but please let me know as much detail as possible so that I can make the suggestion to RUclips to hopefully iron out that design flaw for a better user experience. Here's the link to the video: ruclips.net/video/dR4BJzylYRc/видео.html On using a laptop as an access point, even though it does not have a built-in ethernet port, you could use a USB ethernet adapter provided it is supported by whatever operating system you would be running on that machine. The biggest challenge with building your own stuff or repurposing random routers is that although there is a industry standard for Wi-Fi certification, not everybody implements everything exactly the same way even though they supposed to spec wise. What this means is that because various manufacturers will behave slightly differently. If you try to have the same SSID name across different Hardware manufacturers, there is an increased probability of having weird connectivity issues that can seem intermittent or even constant. Usually the fix is to just reboot either that one unit or all of the units. That's why for consumer gear, I usually recommend people to stick with Asus for the routers since the majority of them support Ai mesh. And that's just basically special firmware for their routers to turn your old Asus router or secondary, tertiary and so on Asus router(s) into a mesh access point, either wirelessly or over an ethernet cable for the backhaul. For the laptop, I'd look into OpenWRT and find an adapter that's supported If you really wanted to repurpose that old laptop, however, just from the aspect of power consumption over time, I believe you would be better off purchasing Hardware specific solutions that are designed to be running OpenWRT as they would be more efficient on power usage as well as be using supported wireless radios. Here's a link that will at least point you in the direction with your laptop: openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/installation/openwrt_x86 Also, you can find me across all social media platforms under the name "Shiny Tech Things" And on RUclips you can go to my channel's main page and then there's a contact page to be able to get to my email and you just have to prove that you're human. I can't post that in the comments because bots scrape that and spam. But you can also reach me you with a direct message via Instagram. Please let me know if you have any other questions and I would like to hear what the full build out scenario looks like such as square footage, your internet connection type, construction materials, and challenges that you've had along the way and I'll do my best to help you out.
arris 8200 nighthawk-rax35 and calix 6.2u can u explain with no switchs just using 2 routers i know some routers support wan-lag specificaally but i think you can do this with any 2 routers
@@ShinyTechThings also detail the 2.4/5g and mu-mimo details. i want both routers to to max throughput to my ps5 wireless if its not possible to use LAG WIRELESS then explain using ethernet.
Just disable everything on your 2nd router and allow it to bridge and use ssid from first router and thats it. It wont give you 2 ssid to switch automatically and only one router is the main one regulating the dhcp while the 2nd one just gives extra coverage.
@tongvang724 Although that can work it can also cause stability issues if they were not designed to work together. So if it's like ASUS's AiMesh it'll work great but if you are using brand "A" and brand "B" then the second router in bridge mode effectively becomes an accidental rogue access point. This can still work but over the years when I've been called in to diagnose weird WiFi problems so if I identify this configuration then I ask them to reboot both routers starting with the main one running DHCP then the other one(s) and if it resolves the issue then either live with the issue, change the hardware or change the SSID on each router and let signal strength and the device choose when to move from one SSID to another.
@1:29 if you have 2 separate network ids (192.168.10.x and 192.168.0.x with /24 mask) you cant see a host on either network from the other network in either direction. Also this video should be called how to connect an access point or mesh network. One reason for setting up 2 routers on the same network is so you can have 2 separate networks sharing one internet connection. Setting up an access point or mesh leaves you with the same network.
@dannyl6507 I tried to cover all scenarios in this video and let me break down something a little more for you.
If network A is 192.178.10.0/24 and
Network B is 192.168.0.0/24
And network A is connected to the modem and providing Internet connectivity to network B. Then that router for network B's WAN port let's say gets a DHCP address of 192.168.10.47 or you manually configure it which would be needed to route traffic between them if that's needed. But the LAN ports on both routers *DO NOT* have connections between them then network B can access say a printer on network A because it's not getting a public address. However going the other way won't work without setting up routes if that's even supported on your router. You may be able to configure a VPN between the routers which may be the easiest solution in an environment where both routers are running DHCP servers.
Potential issues that I've ran across when I get called in to look at a network with intermittent issues is usually caused by a cabling loopback ok hardware that can't detect the issue to disable a port. You can see this in Wireshark as constant traffic with just a couple of machines turned on and not necessarily doing anything either. If I were to make a follow-up video on this what additional information do you think would be helpful to everyone?
@@ShinyTechThings This video shows a good example of how to setup the connections so the networks can not see each other. ruclips.net/video/xyPniGTtRks/видео.html
Love this! I prefer to put them on the same network and use my WAN Router as my Gateway... I then do Aggressive roaming so that it acts as a "Mesh"
@Budget Gaming HD Do you name them the same SSID? I don't recommend this in most cases because some devices can get confused but it depends. As long as DHCP is handled by the main router you shouldn't run into IP allocation issues.
@@ShinyTechThings Same SSID my dude ;). DHCP comes from the same router yes. I have 4 routers in my house on this network config. 2 Mikrotik HAP`s and 2 TP links 1200AC... Its all about how aggressive the roaming is, ive set mine to drop at -76dbm so its quite sensitive even if I move rooms. So I never loose connection" Technically
@Budget Gaming HD True but also potentially limited by what the hardware supports but you could potentially also lower the broadcast power but some consumer routers don't have settings for that or are just high / med / low but then again you could move the placement of it as well.
@@ShinyTechThings I get what you are saying. :)
@Budget Gaming HD 👍
Hey, thanks for the video. If my modem is a modem/router combo and I have two additional routers (same brand) that I want to use to extend the modems wifi signal to other parts of the house, how do I set it up so they all share the modems same SSID? The goal is to extend the coverage of the modems wifi and prevent from having to join different SSIDS throughout the house. Taking it a step further, will the users device (iPhone) just jump to the stronger signal automatically? Thanks a bunch!
@EEZYEEEE So what you want is possible, however there is a good probability of having issues with it. So the modem/router would need to handle the DHCP and the other routers would need to be in access point mode. If that's not possible then you would use a LAN port after disabling the dhcp on each router, however it would need to be statically configured outside of the DHCP range on the router but let me break that down.
If the modem/router (gateway) has an address of:
192.168.1.1
And the DHCP range is:
192.168.1.50-192.168.1.254
Then the LAN IP on your routers would have to be a single address for each router between:
192.168.1.2-192.168.1.49
What are the makes and models numbers of everything?
What I typically see go wrong is that devices drop because each same SSID is technically a rogue access point so the devices can get confused on what to do especially if mixing makes and models.
I've also seen when the main router gets confused when devices hop between the SSID's and the temporary fix is to reboot the main router that's running DHCP or reboot everything.
If you have Asus routers you can use Ai Mesh and just put the modem/router into bridge mode.
How many SQ ft is your place and what's the construction materials?
Please let me know if what I provided helps or if you have any for the questions.
Hi I have done all you have said and it works really good I can connect my laptop and my phone on the second router and my firestick but I can't get my smart plugs to connect at all they only connect to the frist router which is upstairs and I really need them to connect to the second router which is downstairs any help would be very much appreciated
@woodywoods5827 What are the routers makes and models and what are the bulbs exactly?
Thanks for explaining things out really well. Also idk how we can’t hear that ac unit blowing in the background. It’s so quiet!
@SPX Labs it is more quiet than my ceiling fan. The servers and switches make more noise 😎
I just connected my secondary router to my first router, basically plug and play without doing anything mention in this video, and now i have 2 working routers in 2 different networks with different SSID passwords, they been working without any problems😂
I don’t know if I did it the right way but hey it’s working.
It depends what your purpose is of having the two networks and whether or not you have nodes on the second network that you need to access from the first or even from the internet. If you do need to access things behind multiple routers than you would have to double NAT everything. So a rule from the outside coming in would be matched and then take that rule and connect it to the second router then connecting to the device. If you don't need to access things on the second network from the first network then you should be mostly fine. The problems that I have seen pop up is where DHCP has an issue on the first router that it needs to be rebooted to get the second router working again.
@@ShinyTechThings I don’t know if you are familiar with the ring alarm base station pro.
so I bought the ring base station pro that comes with the Integrated eero wifi 6 router, ring told me I needed to use the base station pro as the main router for my network but I don’t trust ring router to be as main router since already have a good wifi setup in my home, so what I did is just connect my ring pro station to my main router (nighthawk) and now I have 2 separate networks with 2 different wifi password. The base station router (eero wifi 6) is online but is only for my ring door, window sensors and ring cameras. My phones, laptops and other devices are run thru my main router wifi (nighthawk) I did this about 4 weeks ago and is been working good. But I’m been reading different opinions and some of them said it will only work temporary since I need to change the ip on my secondary router which it would be the ring base station, what do you think? 😂 I’m not export on this field I just did the plug and play connection and I think is working.
@@ShinyTechThings so how to solve this. I have 2 routers & second connected from lan to lan wired. 2nd routers shows no internet many times have to restart. 1st router ip is 192.168.1.1 & 2nd router have 192.168.0.1 both are different brand routers. Any change in settings required? I just plugged and it works few minutes then have to restart router to make it work again. 1 more thing when trying to access router setting on 2nd router which has ip 192.168.0.1 it doesn't open page & when i unplug lan cable it allows me to open page again. how to fix all these please help. Thanks
@ContenidoGeneral I think I am in similar situation with alarms and new nighthawk I have no set up because I'm nervous I'll mess it all up. 2 seperate routers connected for different devices etc etc
@facebookmakesmesick I need to know more about your environment but it comes down to if you're going to be using 2.4 gigahertz but the only channels you can use are 1, 6 and 11 with 20 megahertz width. If any of your neighbors are using other channels or running at 40 megahertz channel width then they are causing interference if you are able to receive a signal from their Wi-Fi.
Hi. Just curious... Are there any safety/security features to having 2 routers? And if so what would those be?
@MultiGoodriddance you would have double NAT'ing it's Just painful to maintain if you make changes regularly. Double Network Address Translation (NAT) if you are not familiar with it is basically translating the incoming going into a device on the network. So if you have say a Plex server that needs to be reached from outside, you would have some kind of NAT rules for port forwarding. A security feature would be if a hacker compromised your first router from it being unpatched whether by negligence or the manufacturer just not putting out any updates because they don't care and want to sell you the next router. Then the hacker would have to do that twice. And if they are completely different makes and models then it's just a lot more work for somebody to break through it even if there are known CVE's for exploitation.
@shinytechthings ok, thanks. I'm setting up a 2nd Linksys router for a friend. The friend was told the 2nd router will provide additional security but from what I'm reading if I set it up and it has its own dedicated i.p address and no DHCP then it's an access point with no extra security as all the dhcp and nat will be handled via the original modem/router currently being used
@MultiGoodriddance If you set it up as an access point then it has no additional firewall or security components. Also if it doesn't natively support AP mode sometimes DHCP from the main router will get confused and you might need to reboot one or both every one in a while. I've seen this and it's just what it is because you can make it perform a certain way but the firmware wasn't supported for what was being done.
Thank you for this valuable information.❤ I have a main router and I would like to be connected to the second router without having to connect to the main router. So, is this possible because I want to dedicate a router to games only?
If you need internet connectivity then the router would need to be connected to another router upstream. What are the males and models of your routers and I'll look to see what all is supported and let you know.
I ordered an Asus tuf gaming ax 4200 router and the main router is d-link DIR-853
The router I have now was taken from a telecommunications company. It is included in their package
@mohammednasseralmuhairi7145 The Asus router is definitely able to handle a lot more traffic than the old D-Link. What speed of internet do you pay for?
It is 4200Mbps / 160Mhz, so there is one that is a little higher than it, which is the Tuf gaming 5000, but I took this. All routers do what they should do, regardless of the speed, because I will use it for one room only, and I will use it because it supports VPN, and this what I was asking you about. If i activate VPN on the router, It will work for me on my Xbox because I ask myself this question. I don't want to lose money for nothing.
Great video. I have the exact problem you describe at 1:35 with the double NAT situation. Do you have a video on this already ? I've tried bridging and halting dhcp but nothing works. I need the second router to perform as normal. These networks are separated by 700 feet of fibe optics..
Thanks !
@rickyclerk3700 If you don't mind, could you please describe in detail what port is connected to, what port and the different configurations of everything and also makes and models of the equipment?
Sure, here's the corrected and clearer version of your text:
I currently have an Asus AiMesh network, but I'm encountering issues with my IoT devices, especially light switches, disconnecting multiple times throughout the day. There are approximately 70 devices connected in total. I'm considering purchasing a Cisco router connected to the Asus intranet to establish a separate 2GHz network for the smart devices, aiming to reduce the number of connected clients on the AiMesh network.
@djacirjr I vaguely recall an in depth conversation with someone else a year or so ago about some WiFi bulbs that would work after rebooting the router. They fixed by using a cheap TP-Link that actually ran on the same CPU but the difference in the firmware resolved it. You could try running Merlin firmware to see if that helps. From what I remember it's because their bulbs didn't meet the Wi-Fi design spec. Basically poorly designed firmware that when attached to Asus who did properly implement it, would break their bulbs.
Very nice explanation. So easy to follow along. Thanks for sharing man 👍
You're welcome and I'm glad you enjoyed it!👍
@@ShinyTechThings hi 2 router TP-Link Archer AX73 vs 2 router ASUS RT-AX55 which is better to buy? yes I plan to buy 2 router for big house with 2 floor, in my place is same range price. I look for who can cover more area and stable. I use 100 Mbps from my isp btw
@LockheedMartinF-22Raptor-y8i Both support running in mesh mode but I've seen more long term firmware support from Asus.
@@ShinyTechThings so based on stable signal and coverage area they are same? and you prefer asus because the firmware update system is better in long term?
@LockheedMartinF-22Raptor-y8i since I don't have one of each I can't test the distance or build a heat map but before I switched over to Ubiquiti gear I'd only use Asus personally and usually flash over to their Merlin firmware. I know a few people that ran Ai Mesh firmware and it works flawlessly provided that the distance between the units is not too far or running Ethernet to the second one has always been rock solid. But back to the question about the firmware, to me that's extremely important because of how quickly a CVE gets exploited in the wild is rapidly increasing every year. Meaning if the manufacturer does update but rarely you could have security holes until they release a fix. Asus seems to be a bit more responsive than other manufacturers out there at that price point. Does that answer your question?
Yep just as I expected. Impossible for anyone who is not a computer expert to do. 😂 thanks for letting me know I definitely have to call a professional.
@Philip Suggs Can you please elaborate on what hardware you have and what you are wanting to do?
I don’t get it. This explanation was pretty straight forward. You went through it step by step… even explaining that you needed to plug in power to the router. lol. I just don’t get all these comments about how this is way to complicated n
@samuelpeinado1267 true, but everyone understands different levels of complexities When it comes to technical stuff. I had a doctor at a hospital years ago cussed me out on the phone when I asked them if they rebooted the computer and they said they were doing that 20 times during the call. It turns out he was pushing the button on the monitor 🤦♂️🤣 after I got the computer name to remote to I showed him how to restart the computer and it came back up and the application that was crashing worked and he just hung up promptly after that. I say this because everybody has their own things in life that they are good at and not good at. Technical stuff is my strength but my communication skills are not always perfect for everyone although I do try.
Can LAN to wan connect of two different manufacturer router be possible if wan firewall will be zero
Please elaborate more and include hardware and what is connected to what on which particular port and I'll do my best to help you with it.
Hello sir, I am happy to benefit from your clip. I know that we have talked a lot recently, but I have a question regarding PPPoE. How can I activate it and how do I make the other router just a provider and not the main one? The device for another is TP-link, so there is no option to make it a provider or an access point. Thank you, wherever you are, if you are. Read what I write here ❤
I'm not quite understanding what you mean by this. If your ISP requires PPPoE To authenticate then the router that connects to them needs to use that not the one that is behind that router. So your second router you should be on a different local network and it's WAN port would be connected to a LAN port on your first router *IF* Your intent is to have two separate physical networks. Does this help? If not, please describe in more detail what you're looking to do.
yes is help thx sir ❤️
@mohammednasseralmuhairi7145 I'm glad to help, let me know if you have any other questions.
I want to use the second router's USB port to put shares (media sharing, FTP, samba) that will be accessible on the first router's network. Configured as an access point, it won't allow those shares to be created and deployed.The second router, wired connection to the primary router, is to be in a fireproof gunsafe in a concrete room,, shares for backups and important stuff in case of fire or other disaster. I don't like cloud or other offsite storage, especially since our internet kind of sucks.
What to do? Double NAT and porting seems like a pain. I would just login to the second router's wifi but the signal from inside a steel firesafe in a concrete root cellar just won't work. Not into the expense of a good NAS since I already have the routers.
Funny problem, eh?
Thanks for the channel!
@TheGhung Fu if you put the second router on the first routers network using a LAN port but *FIRST* you need to give it a static IP address on the first network that is available and turn off the DHCP server on the second router so it basically becomes a switch since you are no longer using the WAN port. Let me know if that works for you or if you need me to clarify anything else.
@@ShinyTechThings Thanks! I got things working well now. I'm now able to use the second router, now an access point, as an ftp server for my security cams which are hard wired to the main network switch. Nice to have separate NAS for camera storage so I don't overwork the main backup/DLNA NAS drive on the main router.
What fun!
@TheGhung Fu glad to hear that you got it working. Just note if running in AP mode and if the SSID is the same it can cause issues as it's not mesh with fast roaming.
@@ShinyTechThings Since I don't need anymore wifi bandwidth and hard-wired my cameras, I turned the radios off in the second router (access point). I can still use it as a LAN switch but the primary need was for a second NAS/ftp server. I'm not a big fan of connecting everything wirelessly. All of my cameras and the second router have static IPs set, with reserved addresses on the main router.
I'm really liking these TP-Link routers by the way. Easy to manage and great bang for the buck. The USB3 ports and NAS functions work well and it's easy to setup shares,, all that.
Thanks!
@TheGhung Fu I'm glad to help. Thanks for the update!
The user manual of my Netgear R7900P router says that if you want to use the R7900P in AP mode then plug in the RJ45 cable coming from the primary router in to the "internet" port of R7900P. If I do this (as per user manual) am I creating a double NAT situation even if I chose AP mode in the R7900P setup page? How do I check if I am in a double NAT situation?
@bzldzl in AP mode it shouldn't be routing anymore, just providing Wi-Fi so DHCP should be coming from your primary router and not the R7900P in AP mode.
@@ShinyTechThings thank you for clarification.
@bzldzl of course! What is the make and model of your primary router? Do you just have the 2 routers on your network?
@@ShinyTechThingsT-Mobile 5G Home Internet. They have provided me with a Sagencom FAST 5688W modem/router combo. I like the 5ghz DFS ability that gives me super fast speeds. I am using R7900P in AP mode for chuckles and grins😂.
@bzldzl because they are different manufacturers. If you have problems using the same SSID as your main router, then I would recommend changing the SSID of the AP mode router and just set both SSIDs to automatically join on your devices.
Great
I followed the instruction and i did it
@Engineeringconsultations Awesome! What hardware are you running?
no problems with 2x/3x NAT doing banking transactions. NAT involves intensive cpu and memory processes. Turn a router into an AP is a waste of resources ( basically acts as a dumb switch ). Just ~12 IoT can crash a router with NAT on.
I've never had that issue even with consumer gear. It's just additional maintenance with NAT on more than one router. What router did you experience this on where it was crashing with a dozen IoT devices on it? Also what were those devices?
@@ShinyTechThings- actiontec t3200m - "SmartLife" ( bulbs (5x), temp/hum sensors( 4x), led lightings( 3x), ,plugs( 8x) IR remote controls(4x), Alexa (5x), Google (1x), air purifiers ( 3x)
Hey maybe you can help me because im trying to do this with seperate networks off of the same modem. I have 4 bedrooms rented out in my house and it is 4 stories. I want to run 3 seperate extenders to the seperate bedrooms and give each tenant their own seperate wifi network. Is there a way i can accomplish this without ip conflict? My modem has its own wireless built in and 4 lan ports. I dont know if i should jse the modem wifi as access point 1 or if i should instead do 4 routers and shut the modem wifi off. Is this possible to do? I was planning on doing a hardwire setup with each lan port off the modem serving the wan port of each individual router rather than bridging 1 router to the next.
@JOIHIINI the 4 ports to 4 routers will work as long as their internal networks are different.
E.G.
192.168.1.X
192.168.2.X
192.168.3.X
192.168.4.X
192.168.5.X
Then each wan port of those 4 routers would get a 192.168.1.X address if that's what your main router is setup as. Does that help?
@ShinyTechThings it does but there's one thing that's confusing me, do they other routers have to be 192.168.1.x, followed by 192.168.2.x? Wouldn't it just be 192.168.1.5
192.168.1.4
192.168.1.3.... and so on? Or does the 2nd last digit need to change too?
@@ShinyTechThings or are you saying the last digit stays the same and the 2nd last digit changes?
@JOIHIINI sort of... So 192.168.1.X where the X represents that specific device's address. Typically the router's internal IP will end in .1 so .2-254 are able to be used for devices typically over DHCP so you can connect and it just works. The 3rd octet (1 in this case) is basically the network address. So unless there is a route between 192.168.1.X and 192.168.2.X then they cannot communicate. Things get a little complex quickly but let me know if this helps or if I need to clarify it more.
@ShinyTechThings Okay so just to clarify 192.168.1.x and 192.168.2.x cannot communicate if 2.x has its Wan port wired to 1.xs lan port? Man is there any way I could direct msg u and give u some details. It's honestly really hard to find this information anywhere and I'm not even inexperienced I'm a linesman that installs modems and lan cables for a living lol. The disconnect is that we just use the default 192.168.2.1 for our modem and then tell the client if they want a complex setup they gotta handle it. In 9 years I've still got very little internal network experience. It's always "not my job, not my prob" lol.
What if the 2 routers that your hooking up to the main router are both linksys should I plug in the ethernet port or the other ports. I looked and both ip adress are different on the 2 routers I ran I would like to make it so it's the right connection I am using the linksys app
@pacman depends on what design you want. If you want a single network, use the LAN ports on the other routers and disable DHCP on them but keep it running on the main router.
@Shiny Tech Things the way it's been working at the moment has no issues or anything. I just didn't wanna switch everything if I don't need to. But I will try It as single network and if it works out better I'll keep it that way. Great video!
@pacman thanks for your support and please let me know how it runs for you.
This is scary loop hole very scary if subnet and subnet then on front bench would need a gauging scrypting to id the route to back end so no risk on misidentified
@TriPham-j3b it just takes proper planning for how you want it to function.
If two one had firewall snd one no firewall can decode the scrypto if fire wall and it need a fix
@TriPham-j3b Could you please elaborate on this?
the music is too loud.....
@@boygeorge6808 I made this over 2 years ago so hopefully my editing has gotten much better. Should I remake this video? Now we layer the sound frequencies and do audio ducking so it should sound much nicer on my newer videos.
SECOND !!!!! Nice video.
@jay kastner Thanks!
i got 2 router how do i get better wifi to my pc with 2 lan kabels! pls let me know
Do you have both routers already connected together over a single cable? What port is being plugged to? What port and what makes and models are the devices?
@@ShinyTechThings singe lan kabel connected, pluged into lan kabel 1, one old router
@@ShinyTechThings i have one lankabel to connect the 2 routers then a singel on for my pc from the secendary one
@SWEEEEEEEEE I need it more clear. Source port to destination port and specify which routers, makes and models.
@@ShinyTechThings i gave up, but ty for help. you know why my ehternet cabel do not help its same speed as wirless
i have a spectrum modem with there own router then i have to asus mesh router what is the correct way to connect ?
I need more information. Are you wanting a single network for everything or multiple networks and if so, what use case's?
I want just 1 single network. @@ShinyTechThings
just want to have a better range on the property. garage bedrooms and so on.
@ernieg ideally you want to disable the Wi-Fi on your modem and turn that into a bridge. Meaning it acts as just a modem. But if you are renting it you might just want to see if you can buy your own modem and save a little longer term. Then use the most powerful ASUS that you already have as the main router and the second one with AiMesh firmware. If you can hardwire them you can get higher speeds otherwise put it at one place and test it all around the house. Then move it a little further or closer depending on what the coverage looks like and your needs. You may end up needing a third Asus router depending on the square footage and construction materials used in the home but AiMesh does a great job with expandability especially if you already have an Asus router and upgraded then you can use your old one provided it's supported to extend your network seamlessly.
@@ShinyTechThings ThankYou for your fast reply. Here is my situation I have spectrum modem to 1) Asus router then it’s hardwired to second router. Then hard wired to a older Asus Router but what I want to know what should be the proper way to hook up ?
Music is too loud dude. Otherwise good video
@mr.n476 What type of device are you listening to it on? With or without headphones? Is it just this video of mine or are there others that are better or worse? If I have any that are better please let me know so I can see what I may have done differently with the sound editing. I appreciate all feedback and constructive criticism.
That is about the worst and most confusing Explanation I have ever heard on how to set up multiple routers on a home network. Most people will not have a clue as to what you are talking about. If you want to teach someone something, you need to be able to bring it down to a level and use terminology that a layperson can understand. You have to assume that the people or person you are trying to teach, knows nothing about the subject and explain in simple terms how to do something. I have no doubt that you know your subject inside out but unfortunately, you don't seem to be able to explain things so that the ordinary man in the street can understand. You have to realise, the people who come on this channel, have come here to learn how to do something they are not familiar with and it is your role as a "Teacher" to tell them in terms they will understand. I am a karate instructor and when a newcomer joins my class, I teach them at a level they will comprehend; I don't instruct a white belt using blue belt techniques and terminology.
@way2go-fh4lc I appreciate your constructive criticism, what explanation didn't make sense to you and I'll do my best to explain it using a different approach. What is the current design of your network and what are you looking to do with what additional hardware that you have?
@@ShinyTechThings his right, for years i tried to extend wifi range by listening to all videos like yours but never was able to.I finally found a video saying its just plug n play no need to go on server etc.5 minutes i made it.your video and many other video are very bad because they over complicate something simple.now i can connect multiple buildings with the same internet with different routers.
@drincogni I need more information on the scenario you had and makes and model numbers of the equipment. I have worked on a *LOT* of Wi-Fi networks over the years and I've seen soo many incorrect configurations so I tried to cover every scenario. I genuinely appreciate your constructive criticism and would like to know how to improve. The closest thing to plug and play would be mesh nodes and using a single brand. What would be an improved approach and how can I do this better?
@@ShinyTechThings basicly i just bought any router at the lowest price ,plug 1 side of the ethernet from the main rounter to the 2ndary router lan port.thats it put password in other devices.something a 68 year could do achieving the same result your video above talked about while not being able to be done by a 68 year old who doesnt know anything about internet
@drincogni The problem with that configuration is that if you do not disable DHCP on the second router then you can have two routers both assigning addresses. It can work until it doesn't. I've seen it where it works for anywhere from a day to a month but usually not longer and you have to reboot one or both of them to fix it. The only time I could think that this would not occur is if the other router is so underpowered that it is so slow on the responses that the main router is always what is being used or vice versa. If you were to take a wire capture of the network, I suspect you would see unneeded chatter on the network that ultimately will cause issues requiring reboots regularly.
FIRST !!!!!
@Jason's Lab Awesome! 😎
i have no idea what a modem is i dont have one
@notgoosie2016 since you can get to the internet then you most definitely have a modem. Although you might have a modem router combo which could also be called a gateway. A modem is what connects you to the cable that your internet service provider brings into your house and converts that over to ethernet. A modem does not do any routing or Wi-Fi.
Sorry, you lost me fairly quickly
@dougwarren8569 Where did you get lost and I'll do my best to help clarify things for you.
@@ShinyTechThings sorry but I have watched so many videos on this subject that I cannot recall at what point you lost me, nor with this RUclips system I cannot just click from your response to me onto the video to re-watch. (I went searching back and when looking for your account but gave up.)
I have come to another roadblock. I have a cheap laptop that I was going to use as part of the wired router access point. I just found out that it does not have an Ethernet port. So, I and both confused and have a logistics problem.
Thanks for responding.
Doug
@dougwarren8569 Thanks For sharing the information that you can't even get back to this video from comment, which I'm assuming you get from email but please let me know as much detail as possible so that I can make the suggestion to RUclips to hopefully iron out that design flaw for a better user experience.
Here's the link to the video:
ruclips.net/video/dR4BJzylYRc/видео.html
On using a laptop as an access point, even though it does not have a built-in ethernet port, you could use a USB ethernet adapter provided it is supported by whatever operating system you would be running on that machine.
The biggest challenge with building your own stuff or repurposing random routers is that although there is a industry standard for Wi-Fi certification, not everybody implements everything exactly the same way even though they supposed to spec wise.
What this means is that because various manufacturers will behave slightly differently. If you try to have the same SSID name across different Hardware manufacturers, there is an increased probability of having weird connectivity issues that can seem intermittent or even constant. Usually the fix is to just reboot either that one unit or all of the units. That's why for consumer gear, I usually recommend people to stick with Asus for the routers since the majority of them support Ai mesh. And that's just basically special firmware for their routers to turn your old Asus router or secondary, tertiary and so on Asus router(s) into a mesh access point, either wirelessly or over an ethernet cable for the backhaul.
For the laptop, I'd look into OpenWRT and find an adapter that's supported If you really wanted to repurpose that old laptop, however, just from the aspect of power consumption over time, I believe you would be better off purchasing Hardware specific solutions that are designed to be running OpenWRT as they would be more efficient on power usage as well as be using supported wireless radios.
Here's a link that will at least point you in the direction with your laptop:
openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/installation/openwrt_x86
Also, you can find me across all social media platforms under the name "Shiny Tech Things" And on RUclips you can go to my channel's main page and then there's a contact page to be able to get to my email and you just have to prove that you're human. I can't post that in the comments because bots scrape that and spam. But you can also reach me you with a direct message via Instagram.
Please let me know if you have any other questions and I would like to hear what the full build out scenario looks like such as square footage, your internet connection type, construction materials, and challenges that you've had along the way and I'll do my best to help you out.
thanks
@benf2532 You're welcome
please lag set up pleasee!!!!
@benf2532 on what hardware?
arris 8200
nighthawk-rax35 and calix 6.2u
can u explain with no switchs
just using 2 routers i know some routers support wan-lag specificaally but i think you can do this with any 2 routers
@@ShinyTechThings
also detail the 2.4/5g and mu-mimo details.
i want both routers to to max throughput to my ps5 wireless
if its not possible to use LAG WIRELESS then explain using ethernet.