Chorleywood - Least Used Metropolitan Line Station
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
- We're counting down the least used stations line by line on the London Underground, this time to the Metropolitan and the quaintness that is Chorleywood.
You can download the Entry & Exit figures for all Tube Stations here: tfl.gov.uk/corporate/publicat... (although, it will obviously spoil the series for you if you look ahead at the figures!)
Note: The Waterloo & City Line won't be done, as it's only two two stations and it's figures are ridiculously high, because the stations are Waterloo and Bank.
There's scope though to do 'Least Used...' on the Overground, DLR and Trams.
British: _At the underground station, there's the subway to cross the rails_
American: _At the subway station, there's the underground passage to cross the rails_
LightningMotionshot NYC can only be compared to London, Paris, Tokyo, Beijing,Shanghai,HK, Moscow, and soon Guangzhou in terms of subway network. But overall then more cities can compare with different modes.
Underpass?
*underpass
@@RRansomSmith An underpass is a road term: where one road descends and passes beneath another road, or some other feature on the surface.
@@allenwilliams1306
No it's not. It's universal for any passageway that passes under another and the passageway above is the overpass. They go hand in hand.
Good to see the "Unpaid Fares" box still working and giving change :D
Genial Harry Grout the days of trust 😊
@@andrewf4623 I think, like with permit to travel machines, they were simply a means of getting at least something from those who were not able to purchase a ticket. I often use a line where you stand a reasonably good chance of getting a free ride if you don't ride it all the way to the terminus.
Made me laugh when he inserted the money and it dropped haha legend
@@richardemms3050 Does that make you a thief/fare evader?
@@angus504 he never said he participated in fare evasion, he said he could if he wanted to
I was absolutely fascinated by this video, since I grew up in Chorleywood in the 60's and used the station everyday to get to school (secondary). Steam trains of course, the electric line then began at Rickmansworth one station down towards London, which is where I got off to go to school. I can also remember the electrification of the line to Amersham and the last steam train off Rickmansworth. In those days the Metropolitan ran to Aylesbury while the (now) British rail went through to Rotherham and Sheffield. Every day there was a steam express from Marylebone called "The Master Cutler" going through to Sheffield. I travelled on it once when I was about 11 or 12 years old. I would like to thank you so much for bringing back these memories of my childhood. I haven't been to Chorleywood for some thirty years, and seeing it again was marvellous. Thanks again, and keep up the good work.
lovely comment Richard, thank you so much!
It is worth remembering that at one time this line carried both Metropolitan Railway trains, and those of the Great Central. The Metropolitan went much further than today - through Aylesbury, to Quainton Road, and had a branch to Brill, in Buckinghamshire, and had plans to extend that to Oxford. Even I can remember when those Aylesbury trains would have been run by London Transport. Both the mentioned railways were, at one time, Chaired by Sir Edward Watkin, and his plan was to run trains from Manchester and Sheffield along this line, and then through London via the Metropolitan line onwards to the south coast and a Channel Tunnel to France, Paris, and beyond. They even got as far as test digs for the tunnel before the government quashed this idea on security grounds. So Chorleywood might not have been just a sleepy little station on the tube!
@@geofftech2 I love station in London underground and busses
Oh well this station got no staircase. However the step free ramp is equivalent to 15 floors!
At Royal Victoria station on the DLR, to go across to the other platform you have to go up a bridge which is the equivalent to going up 15 storeys
I just went to this station today and i had to rUN donwn that ramp because my train was right there i couldnt touch in had to crael under the barriers luckily there was a unpaid fare box there
This actually brought me back to when I was a child and lived in chorleywood.
My most vivid memory is running back up the subway ramp at the age of 5, because I left my GameBoy on the seat.
Thankfully someone gave it to the lost and found at the next station
I went down that ramp running fory train today
I'm looking forward to the "Least Used Waterloo & City Line Station" video, hopefully coming soon!
It’s Waterloo obviously, only got over 94 million passengers a year and dividing it by 363 because it’s closed on New Year’s Day and Xmas day, it gets only just over 259,931.1 passengers but dividing it by 2 makes it so little! Just 129,965.56 passengers! It’s only got 26 platforms!
what about the dangleway?
He wont do Waterloo and City.
I wnat the least used Bakerloo Stations!
@@usermax1317 I think he was sarcastic
Geoff, despite our attempts at contacting you, you have still failed to return our hand rail. Thus we have suspended the class 710’s until we get it back.
Regards TFL
If only it was as simple as a missing hand rail with the 710s, or the Crossrail 345s for that matter. It would be an easy fix.
I was chatting to a guy on a train recently, we past a Bombardier facility, he said "awful company".
He dealt with them daily and said that both the company and their products are terrible to deal with.
"Nothing like the BR days" he said.
Apparently spare parts can take ages, unlike the old BR days where central stores would have it at the depot ASAP.
Says a lot really.
@@neilcrawford8303 Torontonian here, and yeah, I can second Bombardier being a really terrible company these days. Getting them to deliver streetcars on a recent contract has been an absolute disaster, and we've had to stretch nearly 40 year-old vehicles past the end of their service life to maintain streetcar service.
@@canadave87
You would think being a Canadian company they'd be doing their best for a Canadian customer.
Obviously not.
I feel better now, at least they aren't giving us here in the UK 'special' treatment.
@@neilcrawford8303 Montreal's new REM light rail line will use Alstom trains despite Bombardier being literally next door... makes you wonder
The police confiscated it from Geoff, because he used it on professor Plum in the study.
I live in chorleywood and always get so happy when anything reference my village. Also yeah the subway is completely impractical for wheelchair uses most people end up half jogging down it cos it too steep to walk normally
Chorleywood used to be my park and ride for that London - I know it wasn't the best or most efficient, but there is a certain element of "arghhhh, get me off the M25 now"
Thats kinda odd. Rickmansworth i'd say would be better!
@Geoff Marshall. I think one of the main reasons for the drop in patronage may have something to do with the withdrawal of off-peak 'fast' services into London that ran non-stop Moor Park- Harrow - Wembley /Finchley Rd.
Christian Mitchell just use the chiltern trains
That happened in 2011 so cannot explain why the change is 6 years late.
This. And the "fast" service has been slowed down...
I just noticed that the outside buttons to open the doors are placed at the edges of the doors while the inside buttons are placed in the middle and I think that's brilliant to control the passenger flow. Well done, Tube stock engineers and designers!
I think it's amazing how national rail doesn't only serve this station, but also uses the same tracks and platforms as the underground.
I used to go to school a walk away from the station across the common (St Clement Danes), so when I was older I would commute from Watford via Moor Park. Haven’t been there in years, nice to see it again. It was also the station where my dad called me to tell me my sister was born!
local station and have been waiting for Geoff to go there for ages. great videos
AHHHHH IT'S EDDY PARSONS
Me and two mates made for 6 more passengers the other week when we began and ended a walk there.
The lack of a footbridge diminishes it's quaintness.
Being from Chesham, it’s nice to know we’re winning against Chorleywood.
There's a degree of estimation going on in usage stats. The neighbouring stations had a boost in tube numbers for 2017. So presumably the drop for this station is just a change in methodology regarding those commuting on season tickets.
I lived there for just over 3 glorious years during the early 80's it was the most beautiful & friendly village I ever had the pleasure of living in, the Lamb public house on the common was one of the best boozers to, the food was excellent it was with a heavy heart I left I will always remember my time @ no:1 Chorleywood Bottom with found affection for as long as I live
TheAudiostud there’s such a place as ramsbottom haha 😂
10 degree ramp, of that distance. I think that could be an issue.
Home of the breadmaking process that speeded up production of the sliced loaf.
Barry Gower And/or ruined bread, depending on your point of view.
after you do the central line can you then do the least used stations for the Waterloo and city line please?
was just about ti ask was it that Chorleywood or the Manchester one I knew one of them was ....thanks for that
a very beautiful station just been there today as it goes. Noticed those old signs too a big 👍🏻
Apart from the sign that says "Chorleywood station steps,"
yes wake up Geoff @ 1.38 in
1:38
I think he was talking specific signs placed by London Underground... 😬
@@donaloflynn It doesn't really matter either way. I don't think there are many / any visitors here in Chorleywood and everyone knows they're the Station steps.
@@donaloflynn Just kidding to give an idea of what it's like. Mind you...as the least used Station on the Met line, that kind of says it all.
Did they start charging to use the car park between 2016 and 2017?
I’d bet that the drop in passenger usage stats at Chorleywood is down to the “Fit for the future” programme, which no doubt will have resulted in a reduction in staffing and particularly in gateline attendance... leading to more fare-evasion.
If that's true (and I've not read any other believable explanation in the comments so far) then the future they've made the station fit for will have a minimum of £1,000,000 less annual revenue (0.25x£4 min Underground fare)!
Nice to see this station as I was born there in 1932 it has changed such a lot since the days of steam
I love Chorleywood Station, it's my favourite on the Met. Great when they did Steam on the Met seeing the loco charging up Chorleywood Bank. It's interesting how it's only got ticket barriers to the up platform. As there's no ticket barriers on the down platform it puts Chorleywood on the list of 12 London Underground Stations you can access a platform without passing through a ticket barrier!
I find Amersham & Chesham better!
@@Mgameing123 Good for seeing them up close but you don't get the sight and sound of them working hard!
Nice area, I've only used the station once as I was going on a walk along the River Chess (which also gave me my only ever visit to Chesham!). A real bargain to get there by Oyster too.
Nearby Rickmansworth station had a 0.25 million increase in Met line passengers in 2017, more or less matching the loss at Chorleywood. Don’t know why this would be the case though. I think all the stations at the top end of the Met in Hertfordshire have a quaintness about them.
Coincidence? I don't think so!
Hotel? Trivago!
Was there some kind of Met timetable change esp Chesham Shuttles ? Might also be a change in car parking spaces or bus services in the area
High Path Chesham Service nothing to do with it. Timetables are much the same. Could be parking space changes, possibly temporary. 2018 figures will show if this was a temporary blip.
@@highpath4776 the (minor) changes to the lone bus service that serves the station were in 2018. But as its hourly, parallel to the railway, and expensive, I doubt it was ever relevant as a feeder to the station.
Isn't there a huge old golf course on the other side of those trees at the station?
Larry Bundy Jr Pretty much. It’s just beyond a public footpath after leaving the station
It's on the common at the top of the hill. You may be thinking of the golf course at Moor Park.
Yes, i just wiped my ass with one of the flags on hole 5
@@adonaiyah2196 the only course flag that covered two holes! :D
I used to live in Chesham (only for a short while), so used to pass through this station regularly, but I never got out and looked around. Now I know what's there. Although I also want to go myself!
I like the little ancient signal box. One can almost imagine an LNER or Great Central steam train passing through, hustling out from the Capital.
I love this one. Thanks.
OK, we're not talking about the US here... but according to the American Disabilities Act [ADA], the maximum allowable slope for an incline (with handrail) is 1:12, or 4.76º. I was in a wheelchair for many weeks after I broke a kneecap several years ago; if I'd had to navigate 10º inclines - even with one good leg to push with - the tunnel would have reverberated with the sound of obscenities yelled at full voice. #justsayin
You gotta use the momentum from rolling down one side to climb most of the other side. Tight curves be damned.
UK building regs are complicated it seems, and the maximum gradient depends on length - 1:12 (4.76°) for a 2m long ramp or 1:20 (2.86°) for a 10m long ramp with a sliding scale between (e..g 1:13 for 3m).
Either way Chorleywood is not remotely close.
anononomous Built well before these things were considered, let alone mandated.
@@spencerwilton5831 Obviously, Spencer... I stated the info merely as a frame of reference... and, of course, to justify yelling the obscenities. 😁
I used to use it on a regular basis when going to London to work, I'd park at the golf club car park, and walk down through what was then a hotel car park, and arrive just opposite the inbound line. Catch the 'Amersham fast' train to Baker street, changing there. The plus side is my brother was living there at the time, so we could catch up after work. The downside is the underpass used to flood a little in heavy rain.
Chorleywood was also voted as one of the happiest / best places to live in England 🏴
Nice pubs?
You get the best of both worlds. Sarratt is a gorgeous village about 3 or 4 miles away.
naijiktom Absolutely. So is Chipperfield. Very nice parts of Hertfordshire.
@@London1064 Thanks for the heads up. It was a very truncated walk as we were breaking ourselves back into it. I'll have a look there next time.
London 64 It actually looks lovely. Still close to London but away enough from
it all. I’ll have to visit when I’m London next for work. Train adventure to the suburbs 🤣
Nice, Mr Geoff. Chorley Wood & Chenies.
Some of these abandoned stations are really underused.
Have you seen Brill/Verney Junction?
Or my local station Ongar/Blake Hall
Of course abandoned stations would have low passenger numbers, they’re ABANDONED. No reason to use them as no trains run.
There's also references to British Rail at Harrow-On-The-Hill and Rickmansworth.
There are references to BR in more places than you think!
Its really weird seeing you at a station i go to regularly. i will now worship the toilet there as being have used by Geoff.
if you could check that i flushed properly, that would put my mind at ease ..
Sure will!
Great signal box !!
Roding Valley, then :-)
Has that 25% drop anything to do with the fare structure on the Overground from Watford Junction?
2017 is long after LO took over the DC lines and closer stations like Watford haven't seen drops - I doubt there was a sudden drop in passengers at Chorleywood because of the Overground a good 15 minutes drive away (as a bare minimum!). I don't know what it is (methodological or demographic changes would surely affect other nearby stations, and there's not been any local changes that would be obvious causes of a 2017 decline, especially one of this size), but I know it's not TfL fares on the DC lines!
@@sihollett true - my thought was that an evolution of the fare structure might have caused the swing - it has been pointed out elsewhere that Rickmansworth saw a corresponding increase - maybe parking there became easier?
@Gary Chapman Roding Valley has a much worse service - with only a handful of direct trains at peak times with off peak being infrequent and indirect. It's also not far from the other two (I used to travel regularly to some where where it was the closest tube, but Woodford wasn't much further and saved a final change or going the long way round via Hainault, so I used it only once), so its supposed catchment is contributing to the busyness of the other two.
Have you ever driven to Watford from Chorleywood to catch a train to London? It would be insane to travel that far. It is (on a good day) 20 mins drive.
I hope you come up to the East Riding and do the least used station up here!! Rawcliffe Bridge I think?
Craisins It was Rawcliffe, but now the least used station in East Yorkshire is Wressle
@@Ulleskelf There's a station at Wressle? I've passed through there twice recently and there aint much there to justify a station!
I personally am a big fan of the labyrinth art installation, and actually have pictures of around a hundred of those 278 ones... How would you feel about doing a video about those? Like the history of it, and a couple of your favourite ones?
I really enjoyed this video 😂 thanks
Geoff Marshall , you looks like Daniel Craig (James Bond) . Are you visited 'Temple tube station' which was shown in Skyfall (2012 ) ?
I used to go to school in Shepherd’s Bush. It moved to Chorleywood in the late 70s
One theory for the decrease Geoff: Met lines tend to serve localised stations, whereas the Chiltern Trains use mostly their own rails to head straight towards London.
My theory is that cycling has had a major uptick recently and those that might jump on the tube to, say, travel to the next met line station may now choose to cycle instead.
The Chiltern Railways service will always see regular commuters direct to the capital though so you will see only minor changes.
Chiltern uses TfL's tracks between Amersham and Harrow on the Hill, although they don't call at stations between Rickmansowrth and HotH.
@@norbitonflyer5625 and thats the point the met line journeys tend to be more localised so perhaps cycling has taken off. It's certainly affected the rest of the network.
I'm emotional for Chorleywood!
Have their been any videos posted about the London River boat services yet. Never had a need and/or opportunity to use one myself yet
When I stayed in England in 2017, we were in some flats for a few days and took Chilrtern or the underground from Chorleywood to central London everyday and back!
When I worked on the Metroplitan Line Croxley was the quietest station
Was this before or after the Croxley Green branch out of Watford Junction shut? I imagine its numbers jumped when that line stopped being an alternative.
@@stephenrgow I started working at Croxley in 1989-1990
The only service was the Met service from Watford to Baker St/Aldgate
@@stephenrgow Croxley Green packed up some time ago, when a bridge supposedly needed replacing.
@@stephenrgow I have just managed to track down the stats for Croxley and Chorleywood. It seems that Croxley overtook Chorleywood in 2016 for numbers of passengers. Up until then Croxley was still the quietest on the Met
@@robharris5245 Nice one, thanks for that! Definitely not related to the other line then.
The bricks in the waiting room are reminiscent of 21st Street - Queensbridge (F) station in New York City
Its roding valley on the loop as roding valley is really close to buckhurst hill stn on the epping branch. My local area and line
+1 The local crew
daniel Holmes
spoiler!
Is that a defibrillator at 2:45 ? That is a facility worth mentioning.
can't wait for Roding Valley to be featured
Although always shown as "Chorleywood" on the maps, I was surprised the first time I actually went through there in the early 80's, to find that ALL the platform signs read "Chorley Wood" (2 words)!! As your film shows, this has now been altered on all the signs. It's a bit like "Ham Srreet" on the Marshlink line between Ashford International and Appledore, (the village is officially Hamstreet), or the Whittlesey/Whittlesea discrepancy between Ely and Peterborough.
So what video series after this 👀
Most used Tube stations of each line next? Although i guess that wouldn't really work as the busy stations get multiple lines
Nice!
A rather charming railway station,regards Deslynn Sporne.🚂🚋🚈🚞🚌🚆
It is fun with these hidden ways In to the station without signs. It is like cozy.
Geoff I’m actually going to drive to the least used station in Cumbria and make a video on once my cars fixed. Any thoughts?
Famous for the Chorley Wood bread process where the grain is ground to the finest flour by giant steel rollers. This allows the starch to be absorbed by the body very quickly causing obesity and raised sugar levels.See Wiki for more details
I'm getting the hang of how I should pronounce U.K. place names from watching these videos. :)
Maybe there's no need for the roundel or railway signage at that main street entrance path because the Costa coffee shop across the road is a good a sign as any that a train station is nearby?
What was in the signal box? No photo?
That sign at 1:39 does say Station Steps so it does kinda give a hint.
I'm guessing that they count Chiltern passengers as ones coming in at Marylebone, Great Missenden, Wendover, Stoke Mandeville, Aylesbury and Aylesbury Vale Parkway. Although, of that list, only Aylesbury and Marylebone actually have ticket barriers
Nice to know it has a step free ramp.
I didn't expect the least used station to be on the central line
Do you know the quaintest waiting room on the underground which is heated in the winter and could almost be in the country?
Chorleywood is an amazing, beautiful town. It’s very safe with a very low crime rate. The parks are also really nice. I don’t know why the comments are full of hate to this stunning village.
What is the app u use to see the angle of the floor
Well, it says "Station Steps", which must be a clue
Not really I live on a street that has an alternative name of Station Road there hasn't been a station here since before the Beaching cuts
@@johnmccallum8512 They probably just didn't bother to rename the road.
@@johnmccallum8512 but if you are in a town with a still open station, right near the railway, it's probably a very helpful clue that the station is that way!
If 5 Train Enthusiasts wanted to go on Stars In Your Eyes...
"Station Steps" is a very poor clue though. It's buried with lots of other text; thus making it hard for the visually impaired and those who struggle to read English; and for those in a hurry.
Chorleywood Is a nice underground station
Ah, my wife comes from Chorleywood. Used that station several times. Not entirely surprised that it’s the least used Met lime station.
What happened to Zone B? - Chorleywood has changed since my school days climbing those steps each day
Zones A-D became Zones 7-9 in January 2008
Ive never been to Chorleywood, i go To South Kenton though, about 20+ times a Day, I happen to Be A Driver On The Bakerloo line.
when DLR, overground or tram?
It was Chorleywood and Chenies when I was a schoolboy.
My favourite line
Fascinating. I pass through Chorley Wood (emphasis on the 'wood' - they even get it wrong on the train announcements) whenever I go to London. I don't think I've got on or off there and I've been travelling that line for 60+ years. There is only one thing I'd disagree with. There's no way to tell if a passenger gets on a Met or a Chiltern train once they've gone through the barrier.
Any idea why the Tube Map doesn't have National Rail logo next to Chorleywood? Am I mistaken in thinking there should be one?
There is no need as it runs parallel it will only show an interchange at the last and first stations therefore, Amersham and Rickmansworth. It's similar to the Uxbridge to Rayner's Lane where it only show the interchange at Rayners lane between the met and pic.
Because there is no interchange there - at least not ne anyone would ever want to make. same reason that St James Park (for example) doesn't have an interchange symbol.
A lot of the train stations here don’t have bathrooms. Some have really sneaky ones but most have none unless it connects with major networks like Amtrak or Commuter rail.
We don't have baths at railway stations, but we do have a railway station at Bath.
Maybe geoff obviously took notice that it says “station steps” but he worded it differently to us. He did actually state that the sign didn’t at least say “to the tube station” so that might be his way of acknowledging ‘that’, to us.
Geoff what is the central line least used station
The car park used to be sidings and had coal bunkers and a footbridge. I coukd run down the hill from where we lived, along lower road znd up all those steps and the ones up the footbridge.
I’m pretty sure that the last least used station is going to be Roding Valley On The Central Line
I hope, Geoff, you will let TfL know about the lack of signage outside the station. Then, the increase in usage will make another station on the Met 'least used' to visit!
I'm new here, what's the labyrinth all about?
Would like to know this too
Is the signal box a listed building...?
No. There are 33 listed buildings in Chorleywood, neither the station as a whole or the signal box are among them.
britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/england/chorleywood-three-rivers-hertfordshire
Anyone notice at 2:24, the chapter name is "Children Trains" and not "Chiltern Trains"?
Honestly your so helpful at getting To know London and all the quirky but somehow very helpful facts but have you ever left the tfl network and gone out of the country ?
Hello Geoff. I'm literally shocked that Chorleywood is the least used station in the metropolitan line
There is no roundel on that alleyway but that signpost says 'Station Steps'
Thank you I been waiting for this I’m Camren091208 on Twitter
What train fare costs 30p??
do w&c and dlr...in a while maybe elizabeth line too
Geoff you now need to review games about trains!
How do they work out the difference in passenger numbers from Chiltern and tube passengers?
from the journeys that are to/from the Marylebone National Rail gateline.
That makes total sense