As a dental surgeon and trauma specialist for 25 years, giving an injection into the mouth and ‘bouncing off bone’ does not at the time cause greater pain than going through the soft tissues at a just touching point. Going deeper into the bone will now cause greater pain than that caused by the soft tissues. Your darts would cause extreme pain afterwards if they were now anchored in the bone as the person moved the muscles around the fixed dart, causing potentially more damage to all tissues involved. The depth of bone penetration demonstrated by your darts in the chest cavity would be enough to pierce heart muscle, the skull into brain, and would possibly be lethal as a result.
Ya, with the gauge of these things, I would imagine that on live bone, depending on the local density, it would either penetrate even much deeper than what he showed here, or else if the bone was very hard, cause incredibly painful local fracturing.
Increase the diameter of the dart, decrease the length, 3d print sabot for high velocity separation. Adding a electromagnetic rail booster would be a nice touch.
combat medic here, i agree. had a few things stuck in my bones too. notably, we used to do 'blood wings' where you got your rank pins on your collar pounded into your chest by your buddies. my e3 pins became one with my clavicles lol. pulling them out felt like popping a cork, no sensory nerves really reported in except the skin which was quite unhappy about the affair.
My mom was a "guinea pig" for nursing students who were there to practice starting an IV into the back of her hand. They kept missing her vein because it was "rolling"... She was a good sport, until one of them actually hit one of the bones in the back of her hand on about the 4th student's attempt. She SCREAMED, it hurt her so bad. I can't imagine how bad this dart shooter would feel! Can you legally use the little Broadhead Darts that they make for blowguns?
@@Jordanpgates1 The instructor was too embarrassed that her class couldn't start the IV to single out the last student. The one that hit bone said "I'm sorry!" so many times that my mom actually patted her hand and told her "It's okay. You did your best"
I can not believe that Germany has only 7.5 joules when the UK has 12ft/lbs for an air rifle and 6.0ft/lbs for an air pistol.Even this is pathetic compared to the USA!
I live in America and have used this platform to hunt many small game. It is famous for light self and home defense in the country where I am from. There are videos of a police officer’s body camera showing a man being arrested for trying to burglarize a trailer RV home. The man inside used a .177 caliber pellet gun at a few feet distance and only managed to bloody the burglar with shots to the face, neck, and arms. Definitely effective non lethal deterrent, but no replacement for blades or gunpowder. The air guns on the market are no joke, however. They rival rifle ballistics with correct loadings
the tweaker to think my nitro piston air rifle that shoots a .22 at 1300fps gunna have a rude awakening at tthat distance lmfao. power varies and legit small game ones are nojoke. just as strong as powder charge
The idea that any form of "home defence" should be potentially lethal, is a huge problem in the USA. It's often disproportionate to the threat. Far too often, people panic or make silly assumptions without thinking. They shoot first and ask questions later. Like the American who, without any provocation at all, shot a boy who was innocently knocking at the front door... through the closed door, without saying a word. Or the shooting of people in a car that had mistakenly turned into the wrong driveway, but had immediately turned around and was driving away... without anyone getting out the vehicle. There are so many examples, it's scary.
i spent 30$ on the knox gelatin and after its shot a bunch i can just re melt it down and re-form it. if you want gel id suggest that. plenty of vids on it. you could even make your own custom molds if you wanted
For sure! Just use less water, i used knox to glue my mohawk in my younger days and that stuff can turn into hard plastic if you manipulate the mix right.
For more accuracy, the projectiles need to be guided by the barrel at points that are not on the same plane. Or in simpler terms, one driving band is not enough, you'll want two! Or a broadhead tip with the same width as the barrel. Or low-cross-section-standoffs right around the middle of the dart. Or a base with longer fins that also touch the barrel. If you don't, the arrow will hug one side of the barrel at random, with a slight preference to the bottom of the barrel. Because of this randomness, the arrow will point differently when leaving the barrel and have reduced accuracy.
Hello Joerg and everyone, Im in remission right now but I've had 2 bone marrow biopsies to monitor leukemia. They force a needle into the bone to get the marrow. I can tell you it's very painful, even with anesthetic. Moving around will make the damage and pain even worse I imagine. Thanks for your videos, I've just got the adder v3 from you , Im very happy with it.
Consider getting tetanus vaccine often as possible to see if it improves reducing infections, doctors here been trying to intentionally misdiagnose subcutaneous tetanus lesions and severe leg wound infection as cancer in bone of leg and spreading under skin, but tetanus vaccine reduces infections showing it's tetanus needing the Tetanus Immune Globulin HyperTET to eliminate tetanus totally from body.
Had the same experience after Hodgkins, but de most painfull moment in my case was when the bonemarrow was sucked out, not the moment when the needle went in.
@@RAPEDBYBLACKS Thanks mate, Im alright atm I had a bone marrow transplant. The donor was German actually so Im a mixed race now. It seems as soon as I got some German bone marrow I went and bought a crossbow lol.
Coat the shaft. But even powerful tranqs don't work as fast as you see in fictional media. You'd want to go for potent neurotoxins if "stopping power" is your goal.
I tested a lot of different types of ammunition with my HDR 50 (even some arrows) but I gotta say - these 'needles' are something else. Already looking forward to the revolver you were talking about! Btw the new camera is awesome. ✌🏼
I've recently had a bone marrow biopsy done, it is quite painful, but the main thing is that it hurts for weeks afterwards... I'm due to have stem cells harvested in about a month and that will be taking much more of the bone marrow than the biopsy did.... I'm not looking forward to that...🙄 The problems associated with being diagnosed with cancer..☹ Just done 16 weeks of chemo and i get stronger chemo with the stem cell treatment 🙄
I think shot placement would be the deciding factor in the efficacy and lethality of the darts. If you hit the heart, it would probably be fatal. If you hit the eye, obviously that would incapacitate them. Anywhere you get hit is going to be painful though.
I have had back surgery. I had a "DISCOGRAME" on four vertabrae. I have never felt pain like it in my life. You are in a very cold room and you do not get any anasthetic. A machine pushes a needle as thick as a knitting needle into your back.... into your spine. I had four done in one go. I am as tough as you can get but it nearly knocked me out. I was put on morphine straight away. It was like every nurve ending fired at the same time. I can only describe it as jumping into a vat of boiling metal. I now feel very little pain because my body has been to the extreme. I now can withstand a huge amount of pain and I can deal with it.
I cannot express how happy I am to see someone else using the "meat target." It's an excellent analogue for anyone looking for practical impact data, rather than quantifiable compression and failure data arcs. As for the needles. They're unlikely to hurt for a few seconds. At those speeds and pressures, with that diameter, it's possible and even likely that the needle will not touch a single sensory nerve that it isn't actively destroying as it enters the body. A lot can happen in the few moments between penetration and the brain perceiving the damage. After that, it's probably incredibly painful. The bones don't really have pain receptors, but as tissues move and flex around something stuck in the bone itself, the pain will become very real and complex. It would also probably be a very strange experience once they've calmed down from whatever action put them into that situation while they wait for it to be removed. Assuming they're still alive to feel it... You'd have to hit something vital with projectiles that size in order to cause a quick death, but it's possible.
@@johanneswicklein4975 - Paul Harrell's channel is still worth a look. The education you can get from that man is top notch. And it's going to continue. Roy may not bring the same energy to the presentation that his brother did, but he still has a great deal of valuable information to offer.
The documentary showing US parajumpers medics in Afghanistan, had segment on a little Afghan boy who had been shot in the head. He was crashing as they transported him to hospital in the Blackhawk. The medic was struggling to get the IV line into the boys veins as they were collapsing, so he did an IO (Intra Osseus line) in his femur. The little boy screamed so much as he pushed/ drilled it into the bone/ marrow which is insane considering his head injuries You can probably find the show online to watch yourself.
In the UK as the victim of a home invasion, if we defend ourselves and injur or delete the intruder, we end up in court with charges. Self defence is not allowed in the UK ! There have been cases where the criminals have sued the home owners for damages in regard to their injuries and won. And many cases of home owners sent to prison for injuring and deleting intruders
You have a case if you use the EBOR 1688 which is still in full force according to our late queen they just don’t want people to know about this and is why the British don’t teach it in schools any more
Also I have read there are many knife attacks there in the last few years? Look into steel gloves that cover your forearms and stinger tactical whip that can be used as a belt (should be covered with something so it doesnt show). Though I read that could be illegal to carry but that is if a cop catches you? Anyway, the UK doesn't sound like a safe place to live, at least in the cities. I even read pepper sprays are illegal? They really expect all people (specially women) to be victims and take it no matter the consequences...
David, you are wrong. You can use castle doctrine under the bill of rights ( which can't be removed as it was by royal decree) I think that is also what Anglo points out too. That said, you are only allowed proportional force, i.e, tackling an intruder. You are not allowed baseball bats, guns, crossbows etc. As it's deemed excessive. Although I read that a home owner stabbed an intruder who later bled out in hospital was acquitted as the intruder threatened the home owner with a knife.
As someone who has had orthopedic surgery, I can assure you those darts would be quite painful, anything that messes with the bone and the special layer of tissue that surrounds the bone (the periosteum) hurts like hell.
I'm a biochemist. I was purifying radioactive protein complexes from cell lysates by adsorbing them onto beads, which I then centrifuged and aspirated the wash buffer solution with a syringe needle on the end of a vacuum line down the side of the tube, so as not to suck up the the beads. I missed one tube and the syringe went into the tip of my thumb deep enough to stick into the bone. Not only was it very painful, but my latex glove filled with blood. The needles on your "needle gun" (some Hawkwind vibes there) are far bigger and penetrating deeper. Yes, this would hurt and stop someone I think!
I tore my anterior labrum in my shoulder and the doctor gave me a cortisone shot in my shoulder. He told me that he had to crack through a layer of cartilage to get to the spot where my tear was. I’m not sure if it was against the bone but when he cracked through that layer of cartilage with that giant needle I damn near passed out he had to tell me to breath because I was frozen once that happened. One of the worst things ever.
In Poland the restriction for both air pistols and rifles is 17 joules, but if you want to buy something better for self defense, black powder guns don't require any permits or registration at all. Only the black powder access is slightly restricted, but it's easy to get it anyway, or make it yourself.
Hi Jörg, I suffer from chronic spinal pain and several times I've needed deep pain killing injections and have also had my nerves cauterized which involves the use of X-ray guided needles to place the electric shock precisely to cauterize the nerves and stop the pain and I can tell you that after the procedure my back feels like a used dart board and this is under Anaesthesia so I can't imagine how painful it would be without it! Btw, I've seen loads of videos using ballistic gel dummies and they are anatomically correct and are also dense enough to give you the correct data with firearms and other weapons such as crossbows and the weapons used in your video, you might want to save money by not using them but your fans will love it and the guy from OneShotTV often gets them for free because he mentions ballistic dummy labs in his videos which gives them free advertising so it's definitely worth considering.
Imagine an intruder being peppered with those darts? He likely won't die from his wounds but, if the shots were well placed, say in the shoulder joints and elbows, they would be completely incapacitated.
Back in 1997 I was in a motorcycle accident and broke my left wrist. It was not possible to use plaster so the doctors used an external Hoffmann fixture to make the bones stay in place while healing. The fixture was held by 4 titanium screws into the bone, two at each end and they were put there under heavy anaestetics. No pain then. But many weeks later when the wrist had healed it was time to remove said fixture, and that involved unscrewing the titanium screws. That was done with no local anaestetics at all, because the doctors said they wanted to see that no nerves had been damaged. It was the most painful procedure I've ever endured, as if a white hot iron nail was pulled right through the bones in my hand and wrist. The nerves were not damaged... So yes, anything inside ones bones and in the marrow will be extremely painful. I still have the scars in my left hand to remind me. Not my fondest motorbiking memory ever (but that didn't stop me from motorcycling).
In Europe, presently home invasion is very rare. When it does happen , it tends to be targeted against a certain person for a specific reason. It is rarely just a change turn up at someone's door randomly.
Hey Jörg! I'm really excited about you finally having a proper high speed camera!!! I've wondered so often many of your previous slow mo shots (down with your phone I think?) would look like in higher quality! I hope you will use it as often as possible! :)
I have been stuck with quite a few (medical) needles in my life and by FAR the most painful one was the bone marrow sample needle I had stuck in my hip in search for bone marrow cancer (negative thankfully) So yeah I'll go out on my limb and say it's gonna suck not even considering the health complication that could come from such a wound, tetanus anyone?
Not sure about German ones, but a US one two decades ago took out an eye from each of two young men in one shot. The one young man's brother was married to the sister of the other young man, and one of the two of them set the pellet (BB loaded in this cae, but could shoot either BBs or lead pellets) gun on the bed. Fully loaded and charged. Bump. The pellet richocheted into the younger of the two (the wife's brother - age 16) and out to permanently become embedded in the husband's brother's eye (age 18). The younger man's eye was replaced by glass while the other one kept his unusable eye, if I remember correctly.
That multibarrel FX Gatling thing is the coolest thing i have seen all week, i hope they make it to the UK but i doubt it'll be considered legal since the arrows run on the inside
Oh the break barrel pellet rifle, look into pellet dieseling. Gives the pellet a bit extra kick with no modifications to the rile itself, though there is a risk of blowing out the seal though. I've done it many times to see the effects it has on its power against various materials and haven't had a seal blow on me yet with a Ruger Blackhawk .177
@@Semparo I live in the US and have done dieseling before but my reasoning behind it being considered a firearm under German law is it is an ignition source it's no longer just air moving the projectile out the barrel it turns into an ignition moving the projectile. I'm just taking an educated guess, though.
Bullet dynamics are interesting stuff. Should Google out how an IED works. It fires like a bowl that turns from solid metal when fired into a liquid slug. This is why I realized about penetration power.
As child I jumped down on the carpet floor onto my knees after a sewing needle was laying there and it went straight up into my left knee, I felt nothing and could see the thread from needle's eye hanging out my kneecap. Doctors tried removing it but couldn't, so left it in and no problems afterwards.
I had an ear infection behind the ear, and the doctor shoved a thicker needle than that into my skull behind the ear to get the infection out, and it was insanely painful! I had many injuries and a few surgeries in my life, nothing has been that painful.
The heat treat on those darts seems to be superb. I feel combing the hardened tip of the dart into a lead airgun pellet to form a kind of sabot projectile would be very effective, and it would also work in any standard airgun.
I essentially cut my hand off at the wrist in a catastrophic table saw kick back accident and in the first horrific moments I thought the board had shot back and broken my wrist backwards because all I felt was bone pain on a scale that can’t be quantified, the saw turned my bone into meat dust
12:47 when i broke my finger, doctor needed to numb it by giving me an injection that went into the bone or at least up until the bone. that was by a massive mile the most painful injection i have ever had... boy was i glad when it went numb! the other side of it though is that when its removed the pain goes away, just like when you break a bone, holding it still wont hurt all too much(unless like with my finger, it did because the bone snapped in half and stuck out through the tissue and what have you). but all the other times ive broken bones, not that bad. edit: i had steel pins put into said bones, the first night when the anesthesia wore off, worst night of my life, the pain comes in waves and i have never felt such levels of pain, and i have a pretty high tolerance to pain.
Years ago, I was getting an IV, and the nurse had trouble finding a vein that wouldn't collapse. She finally found a good vein on the back of my left hand. When she put the needle in for the first time, she missed and scraped it against a metacarpal bone. It didn't hurt, but it was very discomforting. All in all, it just felt wrong.
I am so glad that we currently have the freedom to own whatever defense tools we need in the US, we just can't say the word, or we get RUclips jail. 😉 The ingenuity you possess to "make do" with laws that leave you defenseless is amazing. Stay crafty my friend!
From personal experience - as a kid - I did get an injection that got stuck in the bone. Absolutely painful. So, yes, to say the least - I would not recommend it ;) Awesome video :)
My friend, you are channeling Paul Harrell by using a "meat target". Look him up on his channel. Unfortunately, he has very recently passed away so, you'll be watching some of his older videos where he uses a "meat Target"'. Also, your " hardened needles" don't leave a wound track. It's the wound track that stops the attack. the needle would hurt like heck but an angry or drugged up perp likely wouldn't feel it.
Oooo for once I got something to add, Had a tooth extraction when I was 18, the dentist scraped the anesthesia needles along my jaw bone, the most painful injection I’ve ever had, I felt tinges that pain for several years afterwards if I moved my jaw just right, those darts would definitely been lots of pain, maybe not the initial impact but probably very soon afterwards
I experienced a piece of blunt piano wire similar in diameter to what your using penetrate my calf. It went through my jeans and bottomed out after hitting the bone. It felt like I bumped into something, not painful at all. Maybe a minute or two after I could feel my jeans catching on the piano wire when I moved. It only began to hurt when I looked and saw what had happened.
I can definitely see those darts hurting, but if the person is on drugs or something it will not stop them. I can see the crossbows you show in your videos doing a lot more.
I ended up at one point with crushing trauma to three of my fingertips, two of which needed to have exposed bone trimmed down enough that the wounds could be closed. They called in two huge orderlies to hold me down (and I was already on an IV morphine drip) as this process was carried out. The pain from having my bones trimmed was intense enough that I nearly threw those two huge guys off of me (involuntarily), and I experienced phantom lights and tunnel-vision as I nearly blacked out from the pain. Bone pain is no freaking joke.
Nobody in the comments is talking about the fact that those darts have the ability to not only hurt somebody, but also pentrate their heart or artery...
I thought this was the sling shot channel. Clicked it to find the German shopping channel. I remember it making slings to show the power and compare it to other weapons.
The fun thing with the classic break action air rifles is that you can often just change it up for a stiffer spring and you will increase the force by an impressove amount. My granddad had one wich was incredibly hard to load wich he used to hunt small game on his farm
I have recently made a Home Defence Air Pistol .45 Cal it uses up a full gas cartridge for one shot and fires a solid Rubber Bullet made out of an old Truck Tyre 😁
Those thickness needles are quite painful....I had in 1994 a hydrocortisone injection in my right shoulder....the needle got stuck in my bone...I said to the doctor "pull it back out a little and then plunge"...he took my advise..... Couldn't take a doctor seriously after that...... I've even had to do my own stitching since then!!..
I once had a blow gun and a paintball gun and decided to combine the two to really launch the needles i had and yeah saw just how much needles will penetrate, I embedded them in a tree and couldn't get it out.
If an injection hits a tendon it becomes very sore and bruised for weeks. I learned from the training nurses at hospital outpatient clinics verses a blood diagnostic center drawing blood. Depends on what is damaged, but a small injection can be very painful.
My german friend i cannot begin to express how much joy you've brought me over the years, been a subscriber since some of your earliest videos when you were just making neato slingshots. I look forward to many more years of being shown their features! Much love from kansas city you big teddy bear of awesomeness 😊
I once had a minor surgery on my knee cap. It was just to take some tissue sample close to my knee join so they didn't cut me open :D When the tool they use touched my bone, I could feel it clearly even I had pain killer. I could imagine it would hurt quite bad if a big needle jab into my bone. Sorry in advance if I used mixed-up terms. I have zero medial background.
My brother sawed off the barrel of a basic crossman pump .177 and he used to break the one layer cinder blocks with 10 pumps. I once lived with my parents to help take care of my mom. Wasn't in a nice neighborhood. Bad people had been slowly moving into the area my dad being a veteran and had nerve damage to on agent orange during Nam couldnt have a firearm in the house so I bought a high powered .22 single cock airgun. I bought all kinds of pellets of different types and materials. I had steel flat head pellets and BBC's. I had come shaped lead pellets. I had needle shaped extra sharp steel pellets and even some hollowpoint claw pellets with tiny carbon fiber peices that was ould come out as shrapnel when the claw of the pellet open d up on impact one night around midnight I was setting with my dad we heard a pop pop. Dad turned off the light looked out the window.saw some people driving slowly down the street shooting out car windows and street lamps with what sounded like a.gun. well dad called cops about that time we heard a.pop and something hit our house in the front we got down. We heard guys laughing. The bedroom of my par nts was right next to living room with a huge front window. My dad checked and those assholes shot into the window where my mom was sleeping. I was beyond livid. I ran grabbed my flat head steel pellets and my needle nosed steel pellets walked out on the porçh in my boxers and tank top and shot out the back window of their car with a flat head as they were three houses down. They hit the gas started to take off I put another through their back window. This scared the driver he crashed into telephone pole they got out and started trying to run. I put a needle point into one of the four guys ass from seven houses down and he fell down screaming they shot me over and over. My air rifle is loud so I went back inside and hid it and when cops showed up I walked outside and saw my neighbor and I asked what's going on? His car window had been shot out. Turns out a rich kid from South side stole his dad .38 revolver and decided on maybe. That night. They found the one kid in the hospital for getting a steel rod out of his ass cheek. It was in the papers. They never knew who did it. But me and my parents knew. Nobody shoots at my mom and gets away with it well their rich parents couldn't get em out of this one. They all spent some time behind bars. Not much. Here in america you can get very powerful single pump air guns that could kill someone if shot in the right area and range.
Had a bad experience getting a blood sample taken. Needle slowly went into my inside elbow vein as normal, felt that “slip” feel as it entered the vein, then the lady literally shoved the needle in hard until it hit something deep (bone?) and stopped dead! Don’t know if she had a spasm or what, but the way she acted was like it was deliberate….im serious, even now years later it’s hard to believe! Point is, was extremely painful and made me jump out of the seat in shock! Was always fine with needles, actually used to watch the whole process in interest. Now it’s definitely the opposite!
I really like your ballistic dummies,such creative ideais also i dont remember if an syringe got that far but i remember when i using a needle and it piece my finger and i feel so much pain that i wouldnt doubt that it touched my bone
Joerg. A great weapon would be a shot gun arrow gun. An elastic speargun device but slings a basket down a tube. In the basket is about 7 arrows. Like buckshot. For pheasant
I got spinalcord cancer and scoliosis and the worst pain I have ever experienced is spinal anesthesia, not even when I broke 3 ribs in a car crash the pain was even close.
I had an ingrowing toenail operation when I was a kid, the doctor hit my toe bone with every local anaesthetic injection needle and it was agonizing! I've broken arms, legs, a stupid amount of motorcycle crashes when I was young as well as having lots of tattoos and piercings in painful places but I still remember those injections very clearly! I don't think this gun will be legal in the UK as we aren't allowed arrow launching airguns.
As a dental surgeon and trauma specialist for 25 years, giving an injection into the mouth and ‘bouncing off bone’ does not at the time cause greater pain than going through the soft tissues at a just touching point. Going deeper into the bone will now cause greater pain than that caused by the soft tissues. Your darts would cause extreme pain afterwards if they were now anchored in the bone as the person moved the muscles around the fixed dart, causing potentially more damage to all tissues involved. The depth of bone penetration demonstrated by your darts in the chest cavity would be enough to pierce heart muscle, the skull into brain, and would possibly be lethal as a result.
Ya, with the gauge of these things, I would imagine that on live bone, depending on the local density, it would either penetrate even much deeper than what he showed here, or else if the bone was very hard, cause incredibly painful local fracturing.
Increase the diameter of the dart, decrease the length, 3d print sabot for high velocity separation. Adding a electromagnetic rail booster would be a nice touch.
combat medic here, i agree. had a few things stuck in my bones too. notably, we used to do 'blood wings' where you got your rank pins on your collar pounded into your chest by your buddies. my e3 pins became one with my clavicles lol. pulling them out felt like popping a cork, no sensory nerves really reported in except the skin which was quite unhappy about the affair.
Long distance acupuncture!
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Ballistic ear piercing... or nose, or nipples...
You have been killing it with the videos lately!!!
My mom was a "guinea pig" for nursing students who were there to practice starting an IV into the back of her hand. They kept missing her vein because it was "rolling"... She was a good sport, until one of them actually hit one of the bones in the back of her hand on about the 4th student's attempt. She SCREAMED, it hurt her so bad. I can't imagine how bad this dart shooter would feel! Can you legally use the little Broadhead Darts that they make for blowguns?
Bone scratches with a needle feel really weird, i got scratched by a needle on the upper arm bone as a kid and i felt it trough the whole body.
I can't imagine how the student that caused your mom to scream did?
@@Jordanpgates1 The instructor was too embarrassed that her class couldn't start the IV to single out the last student. The one that hit bone said "I'm sorry!" so many times that my mom actually patted her hand and told her "It's okay. You did your best"
I can not believe that Germany has only 7.5 joules when the UK has 12ft/lbs for an air rifle and 6.0ft/lbs for an air pistol.Even this is pathetic compared to the USA!
In Belgium and the NL there are no joule restrictions at all for long airguns. For pistols i believe the max is also 7.5 joules
UK limit for pistols 6 ft/ibs, not that any pistols actually even get that close
7.5 joules for germany uk is 16.2 joules. Quite a difference.
Yet crossbows, no restrictions what so ever
Every rogue state bans privately owned weapons
@@mrcaboosevg6089 yep 6 sorry!
I live in America and have used this platform to hunt many small game. It is famous for light self and home defense in the country where I am from. There are videos of a police officer’s body camera showing a man being arrested for trying to burglarize a trailer RV home. The man inside used a .177 caliber pellet gun at a few feet distance and only managed to bloody the burglar with shots to the face, neck, and arms. Definitely effective non lethal deterrent, but no replacement for blades or gunpowder. The air guns on the market are no joke, however. They rival rifle ballistics with correct loadings
For various reasons these have killed many people over the years. Ten minutes of research led me to that. Yes, same size projectile and energy.
Yes Airguns are more powerful that some People thing. During WW2 some Solders used Air Powered Sniper Guns.
@@nemoex Those weren't pellet guns, they were much stronger than crossbows. This isn't that
the tweaker to think my nitro piston air rifle that shoots a .22 at 1300fps gunna have a rude awakening at tthat distance lmfao. power varies and legit small game ones are nojoke. just as strong as powder charge
The idea that any form of "home defence" should be potentially lethal, is a huge problem in the USA. It's often disproportionate to the threat. Far too often, people panic or make silly assumptions without thinking. They shoot first and ask questions later. Like the American who, without any provocation at all, shot a boy who was innocently knocking at the front door... through the closed door, without saying a word. Or the shooting of people in a car that had mistakenly turned into the wrong driveway, but had immediately turned around and was driving away... without anyone getting out the vehicle. There are so many examples, it's scary.
i spent 30$ on the knox gelatin and after its shot a bunch i can just re melt it down and re-form it. if you want gel id suggest that. plenty of vids on it. you could even make your own custom molds if you wanted
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For sure! Just use less water, i used knox to glue my mohawk in my younger days and that stuff can turn into hard plastic if you manipulate the mix right.
Could you make a 🐓 with it?
@@robdegoyim4023 Couldn't spell the word? Your parents must be very, very disappointed.
@@PhilieBlunt666 righteous.
These Darts REALLY blow my mind !!!
Dad joke? 🙂🖖
Should do the mini Paul Harrell meat target. Carry on the tradition.
The Legend lives on!
For more accuracy, the projectiles need to be guided by the barrel at points that are not on the same plane. Or in simpler terms, one driving band is not enough, you'll want two! Or a broadhead tip with the same width as the barrel. Or low-cross-section-standoffs right around the middle of the dart. Or a base with longer fins that also touch the barrel. If you don't, the arrow will hug one side of the barrel at random, with a slight preference to the bottom of the barrel. Because of this randomness, the arrow will point differently when leaving the barrel and have reduced accuracy.
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Hello Joerg and everyone, Im in remission right now but I've had 2 bone marrow biopsies to monitor leukemia. They force a needle into the bone to get the marrow. I can tell you it's very painful, even with anesthetic. Moving around will make the damage and pain even worse I imagine.
Thanks for your videos, I've just got the adder v3 from you , Im very happy with it.
Consider getting tetanus vaccine often as possible to see if it improves reducing infections, doctors here been trying to intentionally misdiagnose subcutaneous tetanus lesions and severe leg wound infection as cancer in bone of leg and spreading under skin, but tetanus vaccine reduces infections showing it's tetanus needing the Tetanus Immune Globulin HyperTET to eliminate tetanus totally from body.
Had the same experience after Hodgkins, but de most painfull moment in my case was when the bonemarrow was sucked out, not the moment when the needle went in.
@@BtvpI’m so sorry. That sounds awful.
I’m so sorry brother. I am praying for you.
@@RAPEDBYBLACKS Thanks mate, Im alright atm I had a bone marrow transplant. The donor was German actually so Im a mixed race now. It seems as soon as I got some German bone marrow I went and bought a crossbow lol.
Now you need to figure out how to get the injection needle to deliver a powerful sedative or tranquilizer.
Dip the tip?
Coat the shaft. But even powerful tranqs don't work as fast as you see in fictional media. You'd want to go for potent neurotoxins if "stopping power" is your goal.
Succinylcholine.
I tested a lot of different types of ammunition with my HDR 50 (even some arrows) but I gotta say - these 'needles' are something else.
Already looking forward to the revolver you were talking about!
Btw the new camera is awesome. ✌🏼
I've recently had a bone marrow biopsy done, it is quite painful, but the main thing is that it hurts for weeks afterwards... I'm due to have stem cells harvested in about a month and that will be taking much more of the bone marrow than the biopsy did.... I'm not looking forward to that...🙄
The problems associated with being diagnosed with cancer..☹ Just done 16 weeks of chemo and i get stronger chemo with the stem cell treatment 🙄
I think shot placement would be the deciding factor in the efficacy and lethality of the darts. If you hit the heart, it would probably be fatal. If you hit the eye, obviously that would incapacitate them. Anywhere you get hit is going to be painful though.
Loved the pump action conversion. This was a great vid!!!!
I have had back surgery. I had a "DISCOGRAME" on four vertabrae. I have never felt pain like it in my life. You are in a very cold room and you do not get any anasthetic. A machine pushes a needle as thick as a knitting needle into your back.... into your spine. I had four done in one go. I am as tough as you can get but it nearly knocked me out. I was put on morphine straight away. It was like every nurve ending fired at the same time. I can only describe it as jumping into a vat of boiling metal. I now feel very little pain because my body has been to the extreme. I now can withstand a huge amount of pain and I can deal with it.
Good for you big guy.👏 🙄 🤦♂️
I cannot express how happy I am to see someone else using the "meat target." It's an excellent analogue for anyone looking for practical impact data, rather than quantifiable compression and failure data arcs.
As for the needles. They're unlikely to hurt for a few seconds. At those speeds and pressures, with that diameter, it's possible and even likely that the needle will not touch a single sensory nerve that it isn't actively destroying as it enters the body. A lot can happen in the few moments between penetration and the brain perceiving the damage. After that, it's probably incredibly painful. The bones don't really have pain receptors, but as tissues move and flex around something stuck in the bone itself, the pain will become very real and complex. It would also probably be a very strange experience once they've calmed down from whatever action put them into that situation while they wait for it to be removed. Assuming they're still alive to feel it... You'd have to hit something vital with projectiles that size in order to cause a quick death, but it's possible.
JoergSprave - Ever see the meat target from the Late / Great Paul Harrell? Your target reminds me of such. Hope all is well - Very best wishes!!
RIP
I found his channel a few months ago and now hes no more😢
@@johanneswicklein4975 - Paul Harrell's channel is still worth a look. The education you can get from that man is top notch. And it's going to continue. Roy may not bring the same energy to the presentation that his brother did, but he still has a great deal of valuable information to offer.
The documentary showing US parajumpers medics in Afghanistan, had segment on a little Afghan boy who had been shot in the head. He was crashing as they transported him to hospital in the Blackhawk. The medic was struggling to get the IV line into the boys veins as they were collapsing, so he did an IO (Intra Osseus line) in his femur. The little boy screamed so much as he pushed/ drilled it into the bone/ marrow which is insane considering his head injuries
You can probably find the show online to watch yourself.
🥰🥰🥰 Dude you are so amazing, and your creations are bloody marvellous 🤩🤩🤩
In the UK as the victim of a home invasion, if we defend ourselves and injur or delete the intruder, we end up in court with charges. Self defence is not allowed in the UK !
There have been cases where the criminals have sued the home owners for damages in regard to their injuries and won. And many cases of home owners sent to prison for injuring and deleting intruders
You have a case if you use the EBOR 1688 which is still in full force according to our late queen they just don’t want people to know about this and is why the British don’t teach it in schools any more
Also I have read there are many knife attacks there in the last few years? Look into steel gloves that cover your forearms and stinger tactical whip that can be used as a belt (should be covered with something so it doesnt show). Though I read that could be illegal to carry but that is if a cop catches you? Anyway, the UK doesn't sound like a safe place to live, at least in the cities. I even read pepper sprays are illegal? They really expect all people (specially women) to be victims and take it no matter the consequences...
David, you are wrong. You can use castle doctrine under the bill of rights ( which can't be removed as it was by royal decree) I think that is also what Anglo points out too.
That said, you are only allowed proportional force, i.e, tackling an intruder. You are not allowed baseball bats, guns, crossbows etc. As it's deemed excessive.
Although I read that a home owner stabbed an intruder who later bled out in hospital was acquitted as the intruder threatened the home owner with a knife.
you have to use 'reasonable force' thats the law...
As someone who has had orthopedic surgery, I can assure you those darts would be quite painful, anything that messes with the bone and the special layer of tissue that surrounds the bone (the periosteum) hurts like hell.
I'm a biochemist. I was purifying radioactive protein complexes from cell lysates by adsorbing them onto beads, which I then centrifuged and aspirated the wash buffer solution with a syringe needle on the end of a vacuum line down the side of the tube, so as not to suck up the the beads. I missed one tube and the syringe went into the tip of my thumb deep enough to stick into the bone. Not only was it very painful, but my latex glove filled with blood. The needles on your "needle gun" (some Hawkwind vibes there) are far bigger and penetrating deeper. Yes, this would hurt and stop someone I think!
I tore my anterior labrum in my shoulder and the doctor gave me a cortisone shot in my shoulder. He told me that he had to crack through a layer of cartilage to get to the spot where my tear was. I’m not sure if it was against the bone but when he cracked through that layer of cartilage with that giant needle I damn near passed out he had to tell me to breath because I was frozen once that happened. One of the worst things ever.
In Poland the restriction for both air pistols and rifles is 17 joules, but if you want to buy something better for self defense, black powder guns don't require any permits or registration at all. Only the black powder access is slightly restricted, but it's easy to get it anyway, or make it yourself.
Hi Jörg, I suffer from chronic spinal pain and several times I've needed deep pain killing injections and have also had my nerves cauterized which involves the use of X-ray guided needles to place the electric shock precisely to cauterize the nerves and stop the pain and I can tell you that after the procedure my back feels like a used dart board and this is under Anaesthesia so I can't imagine how painful it would be without it!
Btw, I've seen loads of videos using ballistic gel dummies and they are anatomically correct and are also dense enough to give you the correct data with firearms and other weapons such as crossbows and the weapons used in your video, you might want to save money by not using them but your fans will love it and the guy from OneShotTV often gets them for free because he mentions ballistic dummy labs in his videos which gives them free advertising so it's definitely worth considering.
Imagine an intruder being peppered with those darts? He likely won't die from his wounds but, if the shots were well placed, say in the shoulder joints and elbows, they would be completely incapacitated.
Back in 1997 I was in a motorcycle accident and broke my left wrist. It was not possible to use plaster so the doctors used an external Hoffmann fixture to make the bones stay in place while healing. The fixture was held by 4 titanium screws into the bone, two at each end and they were put there under heavy anaestetics. No pain then. But many weeks later when the wrist had healed it was time to remove said fixture, and that involved unscrewing the titanium screws. That was done with no local anaestetics at all, because the doctors said they wanted to see that no nerves had been damaged. It was the most painful procedure I've ever endured, as if a white hot iron nail was pulled right through the bones in my hand and wrist. The nerves were not damaged... So yes, anything inside ones bones and in the marrow will be extremely painful. I still have the scars in my left hand to remind me. Not my fondest motorbiking memory ever (but that didn't stop me from motorcycling).
As an American veteran, I don't understand but appreciate to no end, people that can sleep soundly without a loaded firearm on the night stand.
In Europe, presently home invasion is very rare. When it does happen , it tends to be targeted against a certain person for a specific reason. It is rarely just a change turn up at someone's door randomly.
I sleep alone, with a .357 pillow cover
Hey Jörg! I'm really excited about you finally having a proper high speed camera!!! I've wondered so often many of your previous slow mo shots (down with your phone I think?) would look like in higher quality! I hope you will use it as often as possible! :)
I have been stuck with quite a few (medical) needles in my life and by FAR the most painful one was the bone marrow sample needle I had stuck in my hip in search for bone marrow cancer (negative thankfully) So yeah I'll go out on my limb and say it's gonna suck not even considering the health complication that could come from such a wound, tetanus anyone?
The needlevolver idea sounds awesome! 😎👍👍
Not sure about German ones, but a US one two decades ago took out an eye from each of two young men in one shot. The one young man's brother was married to the sister of the other young man, and one of the two of them set the pellet (BB loaded in this cae, but could shoot either BBs or lead pellets) gun on the bed. Fully loaded and charged. Bump. The pellet richocheted into the younger of the two (the wife's brother - age 16) and out to permanently become embedded in the husband's brother's eye (age 18). The younger man's eye was replaced by glass while the other one kept his unusable eye, if I remember correctly.
The enemy really declawed Germany.
Who is the enemy.... ? 😉
Lol
Immer noch toll, dass Du mit Deinen Ideen nicht am Ende bist 🎉❤
Von Umarex habe ich noch deren ersten CO2 Paintball-Revolver hier.
That multibarrel FX Gatling thing is the coolest thing i have seen all week, i hope they make it to the UK but i doubt it'll be considered legal since the arrows run on the inside
Oh the break barrel pellet rifle, look into pellet dieseling. Gives the pellet a bit extra kick with no modifications to the rile itself, though there is a risk of blowing out the seal though. I've done it many times to see the effects it has on its power against various materials and haven't had a seal blow on me yet with a Ruger Blackhawk .177
He probably would like too, but that would be illegal in Germany, it would classify it as a firearm at that point in their laws.
@@SimplyTheSloth Fair Point, I was unsure if it would be applied under any law since it doesn't modify the rifle. But I know nothing about German law.
@@Semparo I live in the US and have done dieseling before but my reasoning behind it being considered a firearm under German law is it is an ignition source it's no longer just air moving the projectile out the barrel it turns into an ignition moving the projectile. I'm just taking an educated guess, though.
Dieseling doesn't work on such weak pellet guns. Even a 500ft per second break barrel is not enough!!!
I'm loving that Joerg, if my local gunsmith can get one I'd have one for sure ❤
love the thoroughness of the video like always. evidence that people will always find a way to arm themselves, and rightfully so
He's such a good dude making video's with such restrictions. I feel your pain being an Englishman ❤
Bullet dynamics are interesting stuff. Should Google out how an IED works. It fires like a bowl that turns from solid metal when fired into a liquid slug. This is why I realized about penetration power.
Wow those revolvers looks wild!
I had a needle scrap my bone due to a deep wound and I confirm it hurts A LOT
As child I jumped down on the carpet floor onto my knees after a sewing needle was laying there and it went straight up into my left knee, I felt nothing and could see the thread from needle's eye hanging out my kneecap.
Doctors tried removing it but couldn't, so left it in and no problems afterwards.
I had an ear infection behind the ear, and the doctor shoved a thicker needle than that into my skull behind the ear to get the infection out, and it was insanely painful! I had many injuries and a few surgeries in my life, nothing has been that painful.
I had a lumbar puncture done poorly by a training doctor and they poked the bone and it hurt like hell.
The heat treat on those darts seems to be superb. I feel combing the hardened tip of the dart into a lead airgun pellet to form a kind of sabot projectile would be very effective, and it would also work in any standard airgun.
I essentially cut my hand off at the wrist in a catastrophic table saw kick back accident and in the first horrific moments I thought the board had shot back and broken my wrist backwards because all I felt was bone pain on a scale that can’t be quantified, the saw turned my bone into meat dust
12:47 when i broke my finger, doctor needed to numb it by giving me an injection that went into the bone or at least up until the bone. that was by a massive mile the most painful injection i have ever had... boy was i glad when it went numb! the other side of it though is that when its removed the pain goes away, just like when you break a bone, holding it still wont hurt all too much(unless like with my finger, it did because the bone snapped in half and stuck out through the tissue and what have you). but all the other times ive broken bones, not that bad.
edit: i had steel pins put into said bones, the first night when the anesthesia wore off, worst night of my life, the pain comes in waves and i have never felt such levels of pain, and i have a pretty high tolerance to pain.
Thx Doc. Great video. And very kool testing indeed. U ROCK. 👍👀🖖👻🤘😎🎸🎶🎵
Joerg trying to reinvent Paul Harrell's meat target. Lol
What do you do when you cannot find a "pew" in an german country garden....😂
Joerg here keeping the "Paul Harrell meat target simulation" current after Harrels passing
Bone marrow extraction is one of the most painful medical procedures AFAIK, and that involves a needle going through the bone of the femur.
Years ago, I was getting an IV, and the nurse had trouble finding a vein that wouldn't collapse. She finally found a good vein on the back of my left hand. When she put the needle in for the first time, she missed and scraped it against a metacarpal bone. It didn't hurt, but it was very discomforting. All in all, it just felt wrong.
I am so glad that we currently have the freedom to own whatever defense tools we need in the US, we just can't say the word, or we get RUclips jail. 😉
The ingenuity you possess to "make do" with laws that leave you defenseless is amazing.
Stay crafty my friend!
From personal experience - as a kid - I did get an injection that got stuck in the bone.
Absolutely painful. So, yes, to say the least - I would not recommend it ;)
Awesome video :)
I had a dentist when I was a child and he used to enjoy scraping the needle on the jawbone. It is one of the most painful things I've ever experienced
Sheeeesh!
Those needles look scary af! 😅
My friend, you are channeling Paul Harrell by using a "meat target". Look him up on his channel. Unfortunately, he has very recently passed away so, you'll be watching some of his older videos where he uses a "meat Target"'. Also, your " hardened needles" don't leave a wound track. It's the wound track that stops the attack. the needle would hurt like heck but an angry or drugged up perp likely wouldn't feel it.
Oooo for once I got something to add, Had a tooth extraction when I was 18, the dentist scraped the anesthesia needles along my jaw bone, the most painful injection I’ve ever had, I felt tinges that pain for several years afterwards if I moved my jaw just right, those darts would definitely been lots of pain, maybe not the initial impact but probably very soon afterwards
America has its draw backs but Im glad to have access to a 12guage shotgun...
Broadheads für die Pfeile? Gibt es nicht Broadheads von Coldsteel für Blowguns?
Nice video and test. It hurts like hell when the doctor hits bone.
I experienced a piece of blunt piano wire similar in diameter to what your using penetrate my calf. It went through my jeans and bottomed out after hitting the bone. It felt like I bumped into something, not painful at all. Maybe a minute or two after I could feel my jeans catching on the piano wire when I moved. It only began to hurt when I looked and saw what had happened.
I can definitely see those darts hurting, but if the person is on drugs or something it will not stop them. I can see the crossbows you show in your videos doing a lot more.
I'm really eager to see their features!
Awesome 👍 I can't wait to buy the gatling gun and gatling pistol 👍 great work Joerg 👍
I ended up at one point with crushing trauma to three of my fingertips, two of which needed to have exposed bone trimmed down enough that the wounds could be closed. They called in two huge orderlies to hold me down (and I was already on an IV morphine drip) as this process was carried out. The pain from having my bones trimmed was intense enough that I nearly threw those two huge guys off of me (involuntarily), and I experienced phantom lights and tunnel-vision as I nearly blacked out from the pain. Bone pain is no freaking joke.
With all that lead bouncing off, that chiappa is equally dangerous tonyou as the target
I really hope nobody from the German government ever finds this channel.
Nobody in the comments is talking about the fact that those darts have the ability to not only hurt somebody, but also pentrate their heart or artery...
I thought this was the sling shot channel. Clicked it to find the German shopping channel. I remember it making slings to show the power and compare it to other weapons.
The fun thing with the classic break action air rifles is that you can often just change it up for a stiffer spring and you will increase the force by an impressove amount. My granddad had one wich was incredibly hard to load wich he used to hunt small game on his farm
I have recently made a Home Defence Air Pistol .45 Cal it uses up a full gas cartridge for one shot and fires a solid Rubber Bullet made out of an old Truck Tyre 😁
Iv had injections in the shoulder joint and it was enough to make me sick. Dental injections had no compassion to the the shoulder joint
Those thickness needles are quite painful....I had in 1994 a hydrocortisone injection in my right shoulder....the needle got stuck in my bone...I said to the doctor "pull it back out a little and then plunge"...he took my advise.....
Couldn't take a doctor seriously after that...... I've even had to do my own stitching since then!!..
Great designs! 👍🏴
Ok, when is gatling bow gonna be available though?
I once had a blow gun and a paintball gun and decided to combine the two to really launch the needles i had and yeah saw just how much needles will penetrate, I embedded them in a tree and couldn't get it out.
Joerg is preparing to kill Unbrelias Nemis.
Ich hoffe, dass sein überraschtes "Penetration!" das ein oder andere Meme hervorrufen wird 😂
If an injection hits a tendon it becomes very sore and bruised for weeks.
I learned from the training nurses at hospital outpatient clinics verses a blood diagnostic center drawing blood.
Depends on what is damaged, but a small injection can be very painful.
My german friend i cannot begin to express how much joy you've brought me over the years, been a subscriber since some of your earliest videos when you were just making neato slingshots. I look forward to many more years of being shown their features! Much love from kansas city you big teddy bear of awesomeness 😊
I once had a minor surgery on my knee cap. It was just to take some tissue sample close to my knee join so they didn't cut me open :D When the tool they use touched my bone, I could feel it clearly even I had pain killer. I could imagine it would hurt quite bad if a big needle jab into my bone.
Sorry in advance if I used mixed-up terms. I have zero medial background.
For a target you need a layer of denim over a body made from a thin leather, pork rib, around half a dozen oranges, and another layer of pork ribs.
My brother sawed off the barrel of a basic crossman pump .177 and he used to break the one layer cinder blocks with 10 pumps. I once lived with my parents to help take care of my mom. Wasn't in a nice neighborhood. Bad people had been slowly moving into the area my dad being a veteran and had nerve damage to on agent orange during Nam couldnt have a firearm in the house so I bought a high powered .22 single cock airgun. I bought all kinds of pellets of different types and materials. I had steel flat head pellets and BBC's. I had come shaped lead pellets. I had needle shaped extra sharp steel pellets and even some hollowpoint claw pellets with tiny carbon fiber peices that was ould come out as shrapnel when the claw of the pellet open d up on impact one night around midnight I was setting with my dad we heard a pop pop. Dad turned off the light looked out the window.saw some people driving slowly down the street shooting out car windows and street lamps with what sounded like a.gun. well dad called cops about that time we heard a.pop and something hit our house in the front we got down. We heard guys laughing. The bedroom of my par nts was right next to living room with a huge front window. My dad checked and those assholes shot into the window where my mom was sleeping. I was beyond livid. I ran grabbed my flat head steel pellets and my needle nosed steel pellets walked out on the porçh in my boxers and tank top and shot out the back window of their car with a flat head as they were three houses down. They hit the gas started to take off I put another through their back window. This scared the driver he crashed into telephone pole they got out and started trying to run. I put a needle point into one of the four guys ass from seven houses down and he fell down screaming they shot me over and over. My air rifle is loud so I went back inside and hid it and when cops showed up I walked outside and saw my neighbor and I asked what's going on? His car window had been shot out. Turns out a rich kid from South side stole his dad .38 revolver and decided on maybe. That night. They found the one kid in the hospital for getting a steel rod out of his ass cheek. It was in the papers. They never knew who did it. But me and my parents knew. Nobody shoots at my mom and gets away with it well their rich parents couldn't get em out of this one. They all spent some time behind bars. Not much. Here in america you can get very powerful single pump air guns that could kill someone if shot in the right area and range.
Had a bad experience getting a blood sample taken.
Needle slowly went into my inside elbow vein as normal, felt that “slip” feel as it entered the vein, then the lady literally shoved the needle in hard until it hit something deep (bone?) and stopped dead! Don’t know if she had a spasm or what, but the way she acted was like it was deliberate….im serious, even now years later it’s hard to believe!
Point is, was extremely painful and made me jump out of the seat in shock!
Was always fine with needles, actually used to watch the whole process in interest. Now it’s definitely the opposite!
With little arrowheads is this thing pretty dangerous 😅
I really like your ballistic dummies,such creative ideais also i dont remember if an syringe got that far but i remember when i using a needle and it piece my finger and i feel so much pain that i wouldnt doubt that it touched my bone
For a second I thought you were Larry Lawton lol
Joerg. A great weapon would be a shot gun arrow gun. An elastic speargun device but slings a basket down a tube. In the basket is about 7 arrows. Like buckshot. For pheasant
I got spinalcord cancer and scoliosis and the worst pain I have ever experienced is spinal anesthesia, not even when I broke 3 ribs in a car crash the pain was even close.
If the zombie isn't dead, it will be very very relaxed due to acupuncture 😂
There's a high potential of this dart getting banned or needing a paperwork in Germany
Btw. This is the basic idea behind a tank sabot ( anti armor )
There's such a thing as a "...typical home defense distance?" Dang
Sure. www.google.com/search?q=typical+home+defense+distance
Perhqps you wouldn't feel it at first, just like an itchi sting, but once you start moving, the pain starts to surg ...
I had an ingrowing toenail operation when I was a kid, the doctor hit my toe bone with every local anaesthetic injection needle and it was agonizing! I've broken arms, legs, a stupid amount of motorcycle crashes when I was young as well as having lots of tattoos and piercings in painful places but I still remember those injections very clearly! I don't think this gun will be legal in the UK as we aren't allowed arrow launching airguns.
Im diabetic, i can say a needle even hitting muscle hurts like hell so yes hitting the bone with a thick blow dart would suck lol