Also one of the reasons Boudica's expertise was so good was because a lot of people had Artemisia already and it (mostly) ended her self silence so if you already had her it was a badass march that corrected one of her issues (making targets give more skill damage is her other issue, and march speed I guess as well). Now with most people not investing in Art any more it makes her expertise a bit less valuable as well. I used to be archer main for a while on my old account and I do miss it a lot. That top 3 archer marches line up is still pretty awesome.
I been following both of your guides great 🥰😍 but is there is any possibility to introduce kusunoki masashige Prime by Lilith…. And both of you have different perspectives to pair with ysg… specifically when selecting 1st pair for ysg after kvk2… I agree both of your points 😊
Only Archer I had was YSG. And thank God maxed Zuliang next. I never been this happy. People say many things but if you only have YSG and you wanna invest in new Archer. Choose Zuliang.
I see. ty. very nice. After this vid, I took inventory of my army and realized that I am actually pretty happy, even still, with sip/ysg. Reason: I have sip and I have ysg. They are ppl in whom I have already invested 1400 sculptures. If I were to get henry to make archer-proper pairing, I would actually not gain that much (perhaps gain almost nothing) (for the cost of sculputre, and for the cost of making another archer gear). But, still. this was a very good video. And I know you know this already, so I am not saying anything with which you'd greatly disagree: that sip/ysg can be and is a decently viable pair. Sure, ysg would miss out on 100% archer attack and 20% archer defense. But, even still, the pair just has so much going for it that sip/ysg actually still is better than many other pairs. You can do much worse. TLDR: you can do pretty well with sip/ysg; AND: you can easily do much worse that just sticking with sip/ysg : ) my army: 1. guan/alex 2. sip/ysg 3. Joan/nev (or Nev/jaon) 4. boud/ZL 5. xy/william (or xy/epicJoan -- if I do t4 only, as a support march)
Reforged Revival Set with The Milky Way Chestplate and Ian's Choice also works incredible, Giving a total of 8% Archer Attack 37% Archer Defense and 19.5% Health, Slightly less attack for more health. Only dislike of both sets with Revival pieces is they are unable to rally or garrison efficiently, to captain a full special set is required mindblowingly.
Used nebu extensively 5525. Nebu is not tanky at all his stats look good on paper, but he literally just melts on the field doesn't help that most people know this so he's always like a #1 target nebu ysg is a big hospital bill waiting to happen
How long do you have in the game? You should be using boudica artemisia not Henry artemisia... ive played archers for 4 years now and have never heard anyone use Henry artemisia
@@tbhrekt2392 It's just about experience! If you have never used henry/arte so don't talk about that🤗 I'm trying to test all pairs but some people like you wanna use pairs of whales or youtubers.
The only issue with henry is that he is on the chopping block soon. So, with that in mind, probably 5511 and use him for as long as practical. Then, trash him. no?
Ottomannnsssss Thuttttttt Ysgggggggg then archer wheel and just go nuts Basically if you see "kvk 2 or 3" equals skip. Was funny being an archer main going into kvk 2 before I Knew about how terrible they were. Edward is only useful with Thom secondary in rallies and even then Alex/ysg rallies/garrisons were dominating and beating archers with Inf. What I find funny in Canyon is my Thut/YSG march below vip 14 (till tomorrow!) gets about 270k kills beating out anything a sun tzu or Aeth march go do with aoe. I can beat vip 18 whales in sunset at vip 13 against even soc commanders and them having much more gear then me all because of one good archer march with Thut/YSG I love it. 4 relics on that march and nearly fullly golden with golden acc ;D
I like how rok has 3 insane marches and the rest going down like boudica prime and zu nev and joan and then only because its better than others scipio prime and guan yu after that even alex is kinda close to the top of infatry comanders showing 5 infantry marches is way worse than using 3 being the top 3 maeches one of each type whitch is good because it shows some balance main reason guan has held on so long is quite a few comanders are infatry with versitile and attack while weaker comanders than guan have infatry and skill for skill cycles if lets say a mew indantry came out with skill it may replace guan especially if it has alot to give in terms of hp and skill damage for infantry maby a new prime like sun tzu or maby a new one entirely
I mean it's definitely nice to have but for 310 sculptures, the difference in battle results on average is like 3% on a trade by trade basis. Not worth for F2P.
@@OmniarchOfficial true. 310 sculptures means that you're 80 sculps from a 5551 commander, which could be a Scipio or Nevsky. Which is better value for a F2P.
Isnt boudica and zhuge best archer march and what would be your 2nd im a 2 cav march 2 infantry march and 1 arch but wanna switch to 2 arch marches but not sure after boudica zhuge whats #2 arch march
Is Henry still useable ? I have boudica/ysg expertise n still working on zhuge at 5552 now but i dont know with who im gonna pair zhuge for 2nd archer march
What about getting leader ship set.. Just the gloves and legs will gives u health and you can go with kvk weapon and milky-way chest isnt that the best to do with archers???
Question Sir! I'm a infa main and I have Boudica Prime and Zhunge Liang as 5511 right now and I don't have enough GH to expertise them both, so who do you suggest I do first? Should I just upgrade them both as 5551? Thanks in advance Note: my YSG is not maxed and only sitting at 5523 I think.
Yea i find investing in gold key comms are also great only if you are casual player not hardly grinding and you just wanna enjoy the game but have good early march as an f2p. Investing some universal gh plus with your luck as well in gold key and thut wheel on kvk 2 while the rest is focus on vip lvl
@@robertkimmontealegre845 Exactly, the only way for a f2p to have a march before the kvk 3 wheel of their type is to invest gh into gold key commanders, at least one legendary. Epics only go so far and are always behind anyone who did invest.
Hi Omni, thx again for the guide :) I'm an F2P archer main (just done my 1st SoC) for Henry, isn't he a MGE commander? If so, I find hard to get in the top spots for MGE's. How would I get him? Should I try and gradually get high enough to get some sculptures of him and work on him from there? Anyway this was a great vid! :) ARCHER GANG
Try to secure the 5 and 10 head spots in mge, or apply for positions in mge if it is fixed. I’m also f2p/low spend, and that’s what I do. I have an exp Henry and he is definitely worth it :)
Omniarch. I'm a f2p player.. I want to make 2 good infantry march.. But i dont have much good expertise commanders.. My expertise commanders are guan yu prime scipio aethelflaed n alex the great. My martel is 5533 lvl 60.and my mulan is lvl 60 5511..mehmed lvl 50 5511...help me pls.
@@OmniarchOfficial thanks so much bro... I just won the new Orleans kvk... And my best march is guan n cpo.. So i was struggling to find another march.
I am about to go into kvk 2 and I am saving for zhuge and BP but I think I am gonna do zhuge BP and nebu thut cuz my thut is 5511 and I don’t wanna invest in ysg 😂😂
Henry is massively underrated, unlike Boudicca he is a low priority target in the open field, overall I get better trades with my Henry rather then my Boudicca Edit: Henry also has some nice march speed :))
Boudica makes that her taget takes more 35% skill damage so all your other marches deal more damage and melt the target. Henry is just okaish stat stick single target. And in a big skill damage aoe meta no brainer boudica is just better for field
Also one of the reasons Boudica's expertise was so good was because a lot of people had Artemisia already and it (mostly) ended her self silence so if you already had her it was a badass march that corrected one of her issues (making targets give more skill damage is her other issue, and march speed I guess as well). Now with most people not investing in Art any more it makes her expertise a bit less valuable as well.
I used to be archer main for a while on my old account and I do miss it a lot.
That top 3 archer marches line up is still pretty awesome.
You know I gotta watch all the archer content 👀👀👀👀
Also gotta mention Zhuge 4th skill really needs the expertise to be fully viable so 5551 is probably still the best route before expertise
Thanks for checking out the content boss! :)
I been following both of your guides great 🥰😍 but is there is any possibility to introduce kusunoki masashige Prime by Lilith…. And both of you have different perspectives to pair with ysg… specifically when selecting 1st pair for ysg after kvk2… I agree both of your points 😊
I believe the next archer commanders will have a 3000 damage factor and reduce the enemy health for 50% for 5 second😂😂
LOL that would be insane!
Zhuge liang prime 😂
Also circle AOE to 10 target 😂
And infantry will get 300shield factor and 20% attack
You forgot the whole map wide AOE
Only Archer I had was YSG. And thank God maxed Zuliang next. I never been this happy. People say many things but if you only have YSG and you wanna invest in new Archer. Choose Zuliang.
i dont think zhuge liang's 4th skill is fan shaped. i may be wrong but it looks like another circle aoe hitting only 3 targets
I see. ty. very nice. After this vid, I took inventory of my army and realized that I am actually pretty happy, even still, with sip/ysg. Reason: I have sip and I have ysg. They are ppl in whom I have already invested 1400 sculptures. If I were to get henry to make archer-proper pairing, I would actually not gain that much (perhaps gain almost nothing) (for the cost of sculputre, and for the cost of making another archer gear).
But, still. this was a very good video. And I know you know this already, so I am not saying anything with which you'd greatly disagree: that sip/ysg can be and is a decently viable pair. Sure, ysg would miss out on 100% archer attack and 20% archer defense. But, even still, the pair just has so much going for it that sip/ysg actually still is better than many other pairs. You can do much worse.
TLDR: you can do pretty well with sip/ysg; AND: you can easily do much worse that just sticking with sip/ysg : )
my army:
1. guan/alex
2. sip/ysg
3. Joan/nev (or Nev/jaon)
4. boud/ZL
5. xy/william (or xy/epicJoan -- if I do t4 only, as a support march)
Reforged Revival Set with The Milky Way Chestplate and Ian's Choice also works incredible, Giving a total of 8% Archer Attack 37% Archer Defense and 19.5% Health, Slightly less attack for more health.
Only dislike of both sets with Revival pieces is they are unable to rally or garrison efficiently, to captain a full special set is required mindblowingly.
Used nebu extensively 5525. Nebu is not tanky at all his stats look good on paper, but he literally just melts on the field doesn't help that most people know this so he's always like a #1 target nebu ysg is a big hospital bill waiting to happen
Yeah it's severely lacking in health but there's a reason many people have used this combo for years now
Yeah it’s better to hide nebu behind Boudicca lol. People who aren’t archer mains don’t understand frfr
I'm an archer player and using Henry/Artemisia and that's very powerful
How long do you have in the game? You should be using boudica artemisia not Henry artemisia... ive played archers for 4 years now and have never heard anyone use Henry artemisia
@@tbhrekt2392 It's just about experience! If you have never used henry/arte so don't talk about that🤗
I'm trying to test all pairs but some people like you wanna use pairs of whales or youtubers.
The only issue with henry is that he is on the chopping block soon. So, with that in mind, probably 5511 and use him for as long as practical. Then, trash him. no?
Could do that for sure! I'd suggest nebu first then tbh
Im nearing kvk3 and have a 5522 ysg and 5515 mina and been hoarding gold sculps… what should I focus on zhuge liang or nevsky?
we all know you are a true infantry main at heart and always will be !!!!
Ottomannnsssss Thuttttttt Ysgggggggg then archer wheel and just go nuts Basically if you see "kvk 2 or 3" equals skip. Was funny being an archer main going into kvk 2 before I Knew about how terrible they were. Edward is only useful with Thom secondary in rallies and even then Alex/ysg rallies/garrisons were dominating and beating archers with Inf.
What I find funny in Canyon is my Thut/YSG march below vip 14 (till tomorrow!) gets about 270k kills beating out anything a sun tzu or Aeth march go do with aoe. I can beat vip 18 whales in sunset at vip 13 against even soc commanders and them having much more gear then me all because of one good archer march with Thut/YSG I love it. 4 relics on that march and nearly fullly golden with golden acc ;D
I’m still using 3 arc marches: boud/liang henry/YSG and amanitore/artemisia in open. Seems work good the last too 👍🏻
Do you have Henry expertise ????
Of course. I tried henry/nebu too
I like how rok has 3 insane marches and the rest going down like boudica prime and zu nev and joan and then only because its better than others scipio prime and guan yu after that even alex is kinda close to the top of infatry comanders showing 5 infantry marches is way worse than using 3 being the top 3 maeches one of each type whitch is good because it shows some balance main reason guan has held on so long is quite a few comanders are infatry with versitile and attack while weaker comanders than guan have infatry and skill for skill cycles if lets say a mew indantry came out with skill it may replace guan especially if it has alot to give in terms of hp and skill damage for infantry maby a new prime like sun tzu or maby a new one entirely
As an archer main boudica’s expertise is 110% worth the sculptures. It helps her deal more damage, not just remove debuffs lol
would rather expertise boudica than henry. Why? Henry is soon outdated. boud will keep for long time
I mean it's definitely nice to have but for 310 sculptures, the difference in battle results on average is like 3% on a trade by trade basis. Not worth for F2P.
@@OmniarchOfficial true. 310 sculptures means that you're 80 sculps from a 5551 commander, which could be a Scipio or Nevsky. Which is better value for a F2P.
I use boudica art, zh nebu and Henry ysg the amount of aoe and skill dmg is so disgusting it’s so satisfying 1 tapping enemies 🤣
You can pair Etel with YSG and this will be a good march for kvk 2
BTW the arches come at the vary end of kvk 3 so that means they can't even play kvk 3 I am in kvk3 2 days left before it end and it's the arches cycle
Yeah that's rough lol
sadly that i can't join the giveaway . cuz i'm in syria ..
thanks bro for all the efforts you are doing . ❤
Archer wheel will come last at KL in kvk 3 so it’s sad for ruin fights
Ahhh yeah that's true
I am over here taking notes like a mad man to realize this wasnt grand cross 5 minutes in lmao. thats what i get for half listening.
LMAOOO sorry!
i'd like to start new game of RoK like arher main. what pair / pairs of commander should i play in kvk1? Herman+YSG probably?
Isn't it better to have the gloves and pants of the leadership set? Seen people in reddit do it.
Hmmm I personally wouldn’t, both are attack pieces
@@OmniarchOfficial you mean the archer gloves and pants are attack pieces. Leadership gloves has 6% def while pants has 8% health.
As an archer main, don’t do that. Only do it if you’re doing 2pc db set with 2pc leadership with kvk weapon and helmet. It’s a whale move.
@@tbhrekt2392can't do it with 4 db and 2 leadership? Thinking if the 6 PC bonus is worth the 8health, 6 def and e bonus def.
If you're playing infantry you're playing hard mode, if you're playing archers you are a LEGEND, a HERO because you're playing IMPOSSIBLE mode
LMAO no shot, Archers are much better than infantry at the moment
cav it's best :D
Archers are doing crazy good atm wdym 😂
Lmao archers are far stronger than inf, you are cappin
@@ArchersSyndicateRiseOfKingdomsey bro ur content is amazing
Thank you , waiting the cavalry vedio 🎉
Hi. I have Boudike and Artemizja full and 350 GH.Any ideas for a second march? Nebu/ZL or maybe Henry/ZL. Unfortunately I don't have YSG
Isnt boudica and zhuge best archer march and what would be your 2nd im a 2 cav march 2 infantry march and 1 arch but wanna switch to 2 arch marches but not sure after boudica zhuge whats #2 arch march
Is Henry still useable ? I have boudica/ysg expertise n still working on zhuge at 5552 now but i dont know with who im gonna pair zhuge for 2nd archer march
What about getting leader ship set.. Just the gloves and legs will gives u health and you can go with kvk weapon and milky-way chest isnt that the best to do with archers???
Question Sir! I'm a infa main and I have Boudica Prime and Zhunge Liang as 5511 right now and I don't have enough GH to expertise them both, so who do you suggest I do first? Should I just upgrade them both as 5551? Thanks in advance Note: my YSG is not maxed and only sitting at 5523 I think.
Bro upgrade budika 5551 then expertise zhuge liang ✌✌✌✌✌
Is nebu zhuge, or zhuge BP better?
sheeesh i genuinely need this to see if i should get henry from mge or not
Do it lol. I have an exp Henry as a f2p/low spend and it was worth every sculpture
I think it really depends on how many archer marches you wanna run! If you're archer main it might be worth it
@@tbhrekt2392 i’ll get is to 5511 free from mge
@@OmniarchOfficial i just need a third archer for when new archer comes
Henrys a beast I run henry ysg and Boudicca zhuge 😎
I Can't Believe Luck Will Make You need some time for Max Thutmore. It takes 4-5 years to max one GOLD key commander💯😅😅. Or you use Sculptures ✌️👍
yup LOL
I used 400 gold heads on him, no regrets! Its the only way to have an archer march early game or you basically have no march till kvk 3 archer wheel.
Yea i find investing in gold key comms are also great only if you are casual player not hardly grinding and you just wanna enjoy the game but have good early march as an f2p. Investing some universal gh plus with your luck as well in gold key and thut wheel on kvk 2 while the rest is focus on vip lvl
@@robertkimmontealegre845 Exactly, the only way for a f2p to have a march before the kvk 3 wheel of their type is to invest gh into gold key commanders, at least one legendary. Epics only go so far and are always behind anyone who did invest.
Omniarch when you get to kvk3 it starts with cavalry then inf then so on in terms of the rotation
Ahh i see, that's unfortunate that archers have to wait then lol
@OmniarchOfficial yea it's a shame since there's other people using him already that migrated😭
Why Archer when you can Cav.
bc Zhuge is Gigachad 😎
Archer > Cav🤗
Because archers beat cav. Nev Joan sucks against Boudica Zhuge :)
@@tbhrekt2392huo/Joan and huo/Nevsky beats boudica zhuge
Is tomy still relevant enough to go 5115 ???
Do a siege guide Next.
😂
Super helpful
Glad i could help :)
Hi Omni, thx again for the guide :) I'm an F2P archer main (just done my 1st SoC) for Henry, isn't he a MGE commander? If so, I find hard to get in the top spots for MGE's. How would I get him? Should I try and gradually get high enough to get some sculptures of him and work on him from there? Anyway this was a great vid! :) ARCHER GANG
Try to secure the 5 and 10 head spots in mge, or apply for positions in mge if it is fixed. I’m also f2p/low spend, and that’s what I do. I have an exp Henry and he is definitely worth it :)
@@tbhrekt2392 Ok thx for the tip :)
ZL + YSG or ZL + Nebu? 🤔
Both are solid, YSG is more damage but Nebu has more mobility
@OmniarchOfficial thnx appreciate the quick reply
Tomyris???
Thanks
When's the infantry guide dropping
Already dropped a few days ago! Link in description!
Omniarch. I'm a f2p player.. I want to make 2 good infantry march.. But i dont have much good expertise commanders.. My expertise commanders are guan yu prime scipio aethelflaed n alex the great. My martel is 5533 lvl 60.and my mulan is lvl 60 5511..mehmed lvl 50 5511...help me pls.
Probably guan/alex and scipio/mehmed :)
@@OmniarchOfficial thanks so much bro... I just won the new Orleans kvk... And my best march is guan n cpo.. So i was struggling to find another march.
Bro any rumours about a new strong infantry commander?... Im keeping my gh
whats now with hermann prime?
Will be updating soon!
Thanks
Made me invest 😂🎉
Oooo in what?
We want video for cavs
Cavs is next :)
@@OmniarchOfficial ok thanks for your efforts
I am about to go into kvk 2 and I am saving for zhuge and BP but I think I am gonna do zhuge BP and nebu thut cuz my thut is 5511 and I don’t wanna invest in ysg 😂😂
What about Huo?
Let's gooooooo
LETS GOOOO :D
no way I'm this early 🤣
EYYYY thank you :D
by the time we invest in these commanders, they will get nerfed to the ground and new commanders will be added.
wait i just watched the infantry guide
thanks for checking out the archer guide too then! :)
If only there was a game that let you level up the skill that you want and not leave it to RNG.
Great news - have you heard of Grand Cross Age of Titans? 🤣
Henry is massively underrated, unlike Boudicca he is a low priority target in the open field, overall I get better trades with my Henry rather then my Boudicca
Edit: Henry also has some nice march speed :))
Agreed 100%!!
Boudica makes that her taget takes more 35% skill damage so all your other marches deal more damage and melt the target. Henry is just okaish stat stick single target. And in a big skill damage aoe meta no brainer boudica is just better for field
Never rank commander based on trades. Trajan will never trade well. Bu does that means people using him are noobs?😅
@@ramos_pinho117 this is a video for f2P lol
Also Henry once again is there to be ignored by the enemy because massive damage doesn’t help you if you die 0.5 seconds after entering battle
First
LETS GOOOO
If the next inf commander willing not strong like fallen angel i will quit im done 🙋🏻♂️