Do All Boats Have THIS Problem? | Boat Life Ep. 33
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We kicked off the winter build series with one of the worst projects you could do on a boat, fixing the holding tank and bathroom plumbing ; ) but as usual it turned out to be really fun and will make a world of difference aboard Penelope. There’s something special about making small improvements to tiny living spaces because you get to appreciate them every day thereafter. The original problem with our system was a terrible smell coming through some of the hoses and pumps, and of course a leaking Y valve which is something you never really want to happen. We won’t be able to test the system for leaks until we go back into the water, but it should be rock solid, fingers crossed!
What's the worst home improvement problem you’ve ever done?
Cheers,
Lou
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This was definitely a tough one! We tried to blur as much as possible but maybe don’t eat lunch while watching this? Thanks so much for watching and commenting, we really appreciate all the positive support ; ) ---- Lou
Just started this video and I'm eating a bagel.. should I stop? hahaha
bahaha i sat down with my brownie and tea (as is my tuesday tradition) to watch and was like... uu maybe better to eat the brownie first!
just a thought,,, how about a homemade compost toilet so u don’t have a black tank?
You 2 are AMAZING!! I feel super spoiled after watching this one! Dana, I wish I had your verve & bravery!! Love you guys!! 🥰
The last shot of you guys enjoying a meal together in that minimalist room. Aaaahhhh sooooo restful 😃
My son age three, laughed when you said "heavy duty." "Cause it's poop! " As he laughed.
Best comment award 🏆
Apparently your son and I have the same sense of humor because I laughed too but, i'm in my 40's! 😆
Being 24 I said the same exact thing when Lou said “heavy duty”
🤣😂🤣
So in looking at your project, it occured to me that for the maybe a little more or the same amount of money you could have purchased a composting toilet and would not have to deal this anymore. People really like their composting heads and there's no smell. Plus by getting rid of your marine toilet you could get rid of one or more through hull(s) and the the holding tank, thus giving you some extra storage space. More and more areas in the US are becoming NDZ ( no discharge zones) and you won't have to deal with pump outs anymore. Just a thought.
This episode reminded me of Sailing Soulianis when they pulled out their tanks, etc. & chose to go with the Natures Head.
I hope and pray for the day you will make a cookbook.
A mini cookbook comes with their ebook!
The Japanese use a strong hydrogen peroxide for cleaning the onsen and getting rid of mold and smells. If you get a high percentage hydrogen peroxide and put some into a squirt bottle it may help with upkeep.
I can literally feel this beautiful connection you guys have through the videos ☺️💕
You both are just so very real!! I Love watching your videos
Oh my gosh PLEASE bring back the film content!! I absolutely loved that period of your channel!!
Getting the dirtiest job done first, well done! I really liked the music in this video. Please keep it coming. Greetings from across the pond👋
Thanks so much, J P!! So glad you liked it 😊 Sending warmest greetings back! ❤️
I agree. The music in their videos is always really nice and fits the theme of their videos well. It’s definitely a part of the reason why I watch.
I know this is a very common experience amongst people who watch Wild We Roam videos but I just did a hearty laugh when I realised that I was watching a video about fixing a toilet while I ate my lunch, not fully understanding all the steps that were taking place, but really enjoying myself :) Thanks again Wild We Roam :)
You two seem like quite wonderful humans. Always refreshing to watch. I was wondering if you find it difficult to cut loose with rent money after years of not having to pay rent.
Hey Hey! Good Vibe Tribe! Smiles even when dealing with shit! Love you guys, so much!
I loved this episode! You guys ticked all the boxes with narrative, editing, music, etc. It was fun to watch, informative, and beautifully shot.
The lighting is excellent because of the foil! Looks super nice on video haha
As a plumber that’s just the smell of money
rofl. My Dad was a plumber too - I don't envy any of you the stinky jobs. x
Dana, could you post your recipe to the cookies you made? They look delicious!!!
Pleeeeease ☺️🤤🙏🏻
Yes please. Me too! X
I would also appreciate to know your recipe. Thanks and congratulations for your video. Very interessting.
if it's the recipe I'm thinking of, it's in their cookbook! and it's delicious!
my week is so much better with these videos!! i love seeing you guys growing up and making all of this proyects!
In our RV tank, they make stuff to clean and keep the smells out...just pour in and soak....drain out. 😉
Happy Camper mixed with Dawn and Calgon works wonders!
We learned to use a tank deodorizer and digester (we used Digest-It) each time we do #2. We just put in about a capful (maybe a 1/2 oz? In the bowl before we flush. It works great!
Nice job ! (Just my 5 cents : You should use 2 jubilee clip especially for those under the waterline)
All 5200 will be a pain in the future but might help with the smell now.... also when double hose clamping cock them at different positions so the screw portions don't line up. Will get a better seal
"It was an impulse buy, but i do not regret it" i love it sasdasfafds definitely made me think i might need one in the future
Composting toilet!!!!
We have had airheads in all our boats this current one had two heads so we kept the aft a marine marine head but it’s never used it’s now the cat’s bedroom.
We will never go back to a marine head again lol!! Have fun!!
Nice job! on your final wrap up I noticed that you only used one hose clamp on a lot of your connections you might want to add one so you have two at each joint. A holding tank Bio treatment to the system a few days before haul out and a couple of full flushes to the system will make the next job more pleasant. Keep up the good work.
Thank you so much for these tips, Ray!! We really appreciate it and are so thankful for the sailing community watching out for us with seasoned words of advice 😊
Another beautiful vlog. I really felt sorry for Dana going first in the big 💩dismantle project. Wow you guys are brave tackling that job. Well done 👍
Thanks so much, Paul!! We are so glad this particular job is done, ha! 😄
here in Greece, its custom to have a basil plant in ur boat, which absorbs sm of the smells.
You guys are such a lovely couple, and I really enjoy your relaxed way of talking to "us"
These are the kind of videos that I'm strangely excited for. Well done you two!
Ha, so glad to hear it! Thank you 😄
As someone mentioned below, you cannot pump out less than 3 miles off shore. When you put the boat in the water, the water cops will check the valve. If it is not locked closed, you will get a serious fine. Maryland is really strict with south bound boats and do a lot of "safety checks". You can use a keyed lock, a wire tie or just wire. I hate using 5200 on those joints. You will get a clog at some point. Use a heat gun to break down the 5200 to release it. I just double clamp, one in each direction. If I ever got another boat, I would go composting. I had a Wilcox Crittenden ( the M-Benz of heads). After a couple rebuilds I swore I would just get the cheapie Jabsco and throw it away when it needed a rebuild and get another.
Forgot to add- if you use a heat gun on that white tubing, be careful not to heat too much, it melts the clear plastic liner on the inside.
Putting 5200 or 4000 on the hose barbs is done in some factory new boats. So while taking it apart later will be a pain. That “should” not be an issue for 5-10 years!
Question, watching you hook up the macerator, looked like the hose from the tank to the pump was located on top? Of the holding tank?
Is there a pipe inside the tank going down to the bottom? There better be or you will never get that tank empty with the macerator pump!
X2 on the advise to fill with fresh water and pump out your holding tank to “flush” it. Works wonders.
(Life long boater. Current boat is a 34’ Mainship. located in Boston (not to far away from you two)
Love you guys!! No smell from here!
Curious as to why not go with a composting toilet set up? Also I LOVE your positive energy as a couple, and how you both encourage and cheer each other on.
You look so much better - you really needed a rest!
You might want to add a filter on the vent. Also make sure that holding tank vent is open and leads outside.
Filter on the holding tank vent makes it so much nicer for neighbors downwind (or yourself if the wind is still). Nothing like a tank belching stinky every there's a flush!
Have you considered a composting toilet ? They seem to be getting quite popular on boats now
Just did this on the boat. Broke the head down and cleaned with hydrochloric acid, all new hoses (trident hose), new y valve just like you have. Hadn’t done it in 4 years and it was amazing how much calcium build up there was. Important is to really flush even when just do #1 so don’t leave any sewerage in the hoses. Also think as live aboard need to do more frequently. I plan on doing HCL acid every other month. Had the same hose you used and it was really great never had any smell at all.
What was the white stuff you used when putting in the hoses?
We used that exact same hose. I felt it was the best available at that price point but there were other even more expensive options too. Wow!
Just swapping the hoses behind the head made a MASSIVE difference with the odor in the head area. The outer layer of the old hose itself is like a big nasty scent candle off-gassing noxious odor even if the rest of the system is not leaking one drop. We are under a year on the new hose and the smell has not come back at all. I don't know about 10 years but I am fine with swapping it out every few years if necessary -warranty or not.
Wr also have that exact y-valve and we did have problems with it leaking at the O-ring swivel points from new. There can not be any tension on the hoses pulling at either of the three connections or else that will cause the O-ring to not seal all the way around and it will leak yuck or smelly "air." We had one hose that was bending too quickly and was a bit of a jam fit so that caused our problem. After we re-routed the hose so it swooped around wider and went onto the Y-valve straighter the issue went completely away.
Right now we are at Vero Beach marina on a mooring ball. They gave us a special numbered zip-tie to put into the lock of the Y-valve. The marina and the Florida Fish & Wildlife patrol work together. They can come to your boat and ask to look at the tag at any time to be sure it is still there and is the same one. This is becoming more and more common
In most US inland waters the coast guard and local authorities expect the Y-valve to be locked-off at all times. Once out of the US or Europe things are a lot looser.
So interesting to read your comment, and so relieved to hear that you have good experiene with this hose! Also, we really appreciate the tip about that Y-Valve, that is incredibly useful to know. Thanks!! Wishing you all the best over at Vero Beach!! 😊
Well done you two! 💪
We got tired of the smell, did our research and went with the Airhead.You will never get rid of the waste odor as long as the are hoses and a holding tank.The compost toilet may not be for everyone but we would never go back.To us it was a no brainier.Now our home smells fresh and clean.
This boat is almost brand new!👍🤒
Could you make a video of the rain sound on that tarp? 😂🥰
It's so calming, right?? 💕
Why not a composting toilet?
Do i see new colour profile in your videos, is there more saturation? Nice colours, fresh look :) greeting from Serbia
Loving the intro❣️
It's like a scene from K19 Widow Maker.
I vote Composting toilet. No more sewage smell.
Huge compliment to you guys. The editing is so nice. Especially the music and all the different camera perspectives lately. I absolutely love it. Shows how much effort you put into these amazing videos! Keep it up. Appreciate your work so much :)
Nice job..Team win..!
you should have bought a fan and pressurized the cabin and opened a hatch for ventilation exit.....! ..next time lol
Good for you to just tackle this one straightaway. An unpleasant, but essential, project. Might as well get it done! As always you make a delightful video from something most people would never even consider as a creative opportunity, lol.
BTW, what's the camera/film etc that you got those prints from? Details, please!
:-)
~Greg
ps - my "worst home improvement problem" just might be ahead of me. Here in Florida no-one has basements, apparently, AND plastic pipe is used for sewer lines. Ours is getting blocked by root infiltration so I need to dig a trench, clear out the roots, cut the pipe, install a new pipe, and close it all up. :-0 BUT it's all outside so nothing compared to what you guys did.
What is the white product that you use when putting the hoses on the barbs?
What adhesive are you guys using for the tubing?
Good job, only 1.question.....way you don't install a electric toilet pump?
And.... PLEASE install a second clamp in all connections, you will need.
haha I was wondering how you were going to get into the boat once the top plastic was on
Hi Dana/Lou, would it not a solution for your boat to install a separating dry toilet? That will not smell so bad? Fan from Germany. Keep save and stay healthy. Regards, Bernhard
Some people get so squeemish over a bit of poop! Wait till you have a newborn! Ha! Nice update all the same.
I'm a little surprised that you're not going composting.
I can imagine that trying to carry a composting toilet out of a boat on rocking water could end up in quite a mess...
@@felixgla30 Talk to Sailing Uma about that. They say it's the way to go.
Bildge, Head plumbing ( plastered with pre-owners-number-twos ), Diesel engine . Accumulated a very unique “wild funk” that makes boat owning so much fun.
Get some new plumbing, new holding tank etc. and you’ll be fine, until it starts again. Heater helps against condensation and mould ( another funk ) and new seals on windows and hatches keep the environment outside. Mostly. If you don’t like d.i.y. , run away 😂
Most Off this video ,WAS GROSS , Self inflicted misery , that,s life . But you both talk and work through it as if another day at the office . How many are thinking that ? As I enjoy your videos and the adventures along the way , plus the comments well worth a read , Heavy Duty is the catch phrase now ,when things go wrong . Take care stay safe and enjoy your winter tent ,SPIFFING .
Hi you 2
How about a dry toilet. A lot of people start using those in mobile homes.
Why not in boats.
No chemistry.
Greta Thunberg would love you 😉
By the way.
We wish you always a hand wide water underneath your Penelope...
Raphael und Nicole
Love your content and view faithfully. Please don’t buy cleaning products tested on animals. They cause such great suffering and are put into the eyes of baby bunnies. Both dawn & 409 test on defenseless animals. There’s sooo many cruelty free products, just look for the hopping bunny logo. 🙏
Hello toilet gangsters.....a couple of quick suggestions that might help you tame the toilet beast. First off, if you didn't use the head, you would avoid all these problems. Lol. Just kidding. Head management is a big deal. Having a significant leak or one exploding is almost as bad as losing an engine. There are a few pointers though that I want to share that may help you. #1.. the whole system always holds particulates and they accumulate over time. That's just the nature of the beast. Add to that some brackish or saltwater and you have an accumulation of pungent odor that, without change, will never go away. Some people say to put dish soap in the holding tank, etc. 🤔 I don't know. Sounds like a lot of something else to deal with. #2 the hose will get saturated overtime and hold the smell even after you wear yourself trying to clean the system. So -several things that have worked for us. Make sure your pump mechanism is always tip top. (the ol ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure) We dab ours with a dap of olive oil every 3 or 4 uses. Just a dab! Helps to keep the pump O ring slippery for discharge and little wear on the ring. Also helps to create a good pump seal. Make sure the tank vent is clear. If your joker valve is leaking, we wade up just a little toilet paper and give it a couple of pumps. The paper tends to block the joker valve slits enough to hinder back flow. You have to play with this a little to become a professional. Of course, replace the joker valve and flapper valve at first opportunity. Check all your fittings. Over time, the PVC gets stiff and jeopardizes a seal that use to be ok. I use a hair dryer and warm them up a bit before cranking on the clamp. Also, just like everywhere else, there should be two hose clamps. Another trick we do is wrap all lines with aluminized tape. The same stuff hvac people use. Spiral all lines. It is cheap and impenetrable. Works like a champ! Another suggestion is to use the old RV toilet treatment. That's actually good stuff, sweat smelling and not that expensive given the alternative. We also freshwater flush. Urine: clear the bowl and follow up with a cup of freshwater. Number 2: enough water to do your business. Clear the bowl and a couple of cups of freshwater. Don't forget your toilet paper trick. Before going to pump out , we pump in a quart or so of freshwater and let the tank slosh around before before we pump out. Obviously your ability to use freshwater depends on your tankage. In our case we're mostly on bottled water and do marine showers so we use very little out of the tank. Anyway, justina couple hacks to help you out. Good luck. Capt Kaz
Who gets the first Poo?
Nice job done.
Why not a dry toilet?
Advice from a former sailor next to me after seeing your video : 'use a bucket and pipes will stop leaking ;), always cool to have working toilets in case of bad waether but when you live on boat in warmer countries you quickly understand the bucket is the easier solution'
Love you guys ....yep mobile living often brings you face to face with your shit😂
im surprised you didnt went for composting toilets, sure they are expensive but, literally, no shitty pipes/anything, virtually 0 maintenance, and when composted, throw it into the sea, which is what you will be doing anyway. i know the usa mandates a holding tank, but its a small one and you can have it "installed" to pass the inspection.
yep, they all stink but there is hope... too bad you didn't ask earlier... there is a bit of a trend to replace the boat head with a cassette toilet, still does the job and you can empty it at many locations including the sea (legally when you are more than 3 miles off shore) - glad to see that you replaced all the old hoses, the smell tends to permeate the rubber and then it stinks up the place... but marine heads are notorious for causing trouble, be sure to keep a comfy bucket on board for an emergency. if you can, flush with fresh water, the sea water is full of living organisms and they cause odors... here's a book that may help with your problem www.amazon.com/Get-Boat-Odors-Peggie-Hall/dp/1892399156 and there is a better book that I purchased a few years ago but cant find to get the title and recommend. BTW, electric pumps for black water are great but they are also notorious for failing, be sure you have a backup pump or a rebuilt kit. same for the commode, be sure to carry with you all the parts to rebuild it and especially a joker valve. one last thought, buy a sailing dinghy - they are an awesome way to get around plus all of the skills you learn on your sailing dinghy will apply on your new boat.
I asked once before, but you did not response. (No foul. I know you are very busy.) Where in Rhode Island is the yard?
I love how you two work together :)
Funny, only the two of you could make fixing a head uplifting and leave the viewer smiling. Looking forward to seeing what else is going to get fixed on the winter bill series.
Pentax 67! serious camera envy! enjoy using it :)
Don’t forget to replace the intake water hose from the overboard seacock that supplies sea water to the toilet. Also make sure that you replace the hose for the deck mounted pump out very important as that hose also supplies a lot of the odors that you’ll find.
Nice work on the plumbing for the head. I hope it clears the air on the boat.
I recommend you do double clamps on every part of the tube, not just one a few. Worth the investment for sure. Good job so far!
I would really like to have the beige cozy sweater with the higher neck. I’m a sucker for cozy.
Glad to see you double clamped the pipes
Pppleass come out with a cook book!!!! Yummmmy yummy.
Yay I woke up to a new video on my birthday 🎁 thank you guys!! Another great vid as always
Just about to start this same project ourselves. Do you mind sharing where you got the new sanitation hose from?
Any hose connection below the waterline connected to sea at any time should be double hose clamped , with the Barrels on different sides of the hose not on the same side next to each other..
What happens to all the plastic that the boats get covered with?! Doesn’t seem very eco-friendly...
How much do they charge to shrink wrap the boat in plastic ?
What was the camera used for the photos yall got printed out?
hey there the munch cookie / energy bar looked lush could i have the recipe please.
... was that 5200 that you put on the hoses to seal them? Giggling just a little even if it’s 4000... it’ll be an interesting video where you need to take it apart to clear a clog.
won't have to worry about it coming loose...ever :)
I know right?? Oh my word, that's going to be terrible down the road!
Yeah ... would like to know whom suggested using marine sealant on hoses & hose fittings. ???
good video again but a question for you what filters do you use on the mask its great you found one that stops the stink
Jabsco toilet would be more usefult tha that solution
I wasnt a good idea watching while i was taking breakfast 🙃🤢
Hi Dana and Lou,
As I was doing my afternoon walk and collecting vitamin D from the outside there was not a better company but to watch your new video!
Wow you two, well done 🌷🌷🌷look at how much progress you have made for those two days on Penelope yaay!!!I am genuinely happy for you two! It looks and I am sure smells much better.
We are having a similar toilet project that I am not looking forward to but needs to be done, so good that you showed what masks you have on. Stan was debating should we get a similar one, definitely doing it ha ha.
Whats the next project? We hope that it goes smooth as this one!
Sending sun and smiles from windy Oklahoma!
Nat
Nat, thank you so much for this darling comment and the kind words! We definitely have zero regrets about the intense mask, we are so glad to have it (useful for many projects, actually!) Wishing you the best of luck with your toilet project!! Sending love to you in Oklahoma 😊
@@WildWeRoamthank you so very much Dana and Lou! I hope that your week is very productive and looking forward to next weeks video!
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Did u guys buy this house or rent only till you go back into the boat?
Yummy!
wow, yep, not a good one to watch while having dinner
Ummmm, just think how much worse it would smell if you ate meat! Just sayin'.........
I am not a meat eater, but I find
meat eaters in Switzerland do
not smell. Maybe because our
is very clean and fresh and people
shower daily. Also luckily we do not
live in one of those hot countries.
Perhaps that makes people smell
worse. Wish I knew the answer to
that. But it also depends on one's
body metabolism.
"Little Bear?" ❤️❤️ My sister makes up nicknames like that. Absolutely love you guys! So happy you got winter home to work on boat. You've made such AMAZING improvements! I'm very, very
happy for you, that after that hard work day, you go to comfy cozy home use dishwasher cook relax and study, study, study..if I knew Lou and you'll be navigating by the stars pretty soon!
You really are a great team. ❤️💐✋ waiting to see what else is possible. 🥬🍉🥥🍇🍈🍉🍅🥦🥔🍆🍠🥑
Thank you so much 🤗
Where did you get that beige sweater?
To remove the smell you can buy one OZONE cleaner, it works great is cheap and is simple to use.
Before use read the manual, you CAN'T BE in the same space as the OZONE cleaner (the same for pets / living things)