she put her whole heart into this performance and you can see it on her face, i agree with other comments about this song not being the proper range for her. i love her
her voice is so strong but it really sounds like shes struggling here.. i feel so bad for her, moepi is so talented, i want her to reach for the stars and further!!! im cheering for you ♡♡♡♡
man i already cant sing this song normally without getting out of breath, let alone with intensive dance and performing in front of so many people... love live pls treat ur seiyuus better and dont just throw 100 layers of autotune over them in the bd
Hey just to clarify, though this is a pretty rough performance every other time I've seen Moepi perform this song live she's absolutely killed it. She's one of the best performers LL has seen and this is one of her best.
@@Ficojepet oh I meant the other live performances without the voice correction in the blu-rays, I honestly think the blu-rays sound really weird because of how excessive the voice correction is
I found lovelive does not really try to fit for the seiyuu's capabilities when they compose their songs. MoeP is doing great in songs from Revue Starlight because the composers leaves enough time for her to breath in, not really for lovelive though.
literally revstar is the example to follow when it comes to writing For the seiyuu like just listen to an untreated rendition of sekai wo hai ni suru made satohina does not MISS
harmoe performances are also well-composed for performance. It's such a shame, sometimes I feel that they care more for the character than the seiyuu - like they put pressure on seiyuus to sing and dance in-character, which doesn't translate as well in lives. So many variables apply to live performance as opposed to studio recording: they need to project their voices more, the mics can falter and/or cut out, they need moments to breathe which some songs don't offer (see: Motto ne!), there's movement interfering with their singing, and sometimes they are being given vocal cues from their earpieces. I understand why Kinchan gets so stressed out from performing...
@@MiharuEndoh1 i mean liella and nijigaku are happening simultaneously and the earliest liella songs predate this one so it's really just a matter of tofubeats' coomposition and ppl either being unaware of or ignoring the strain on moepi
@@k4eru20 tbf, the amount of effort they are putting into liella is way more than any other previous group which i think is why they sound much stronger. However, I dunno why and maybe they are, but it seems like vocal training is something that idols tend to put on the back burner. Sayurin was literally dying when performing a few weeks ago cuz it's so vocally dependent on her. It's like LL is looking for talent, but then after they're like figure it out on your own. Or maybe vocals isn't the main highlight because they keep composing suwa to sing these ungodly high notes she just can't fucking hit and i don't know why nobody is changing that.
Moepi look so pretty that’s all it matter~I like this song a lot even though she struggles mostly it felt really genuine to listen to her live singing voice
You can tell this song isn’t in her range and she’s really struggling to stabilize her voice. It doesn’t help that this song leaves absolutely no time to breathe at all so she can’t get a good breath to support herself. And the dance on top of that too? I feel bad for her.
as someone who's done a decade of vocal training, it hurts to listen to this live because i can feel how terrible it is for her voice and how painful it must be to try and force through a range that's not suited to her as well as a melody that's not good for live performance. and she's gotta wear a smile thru strenuous choreo to boot... i wish tofubeats and the vocal director had put more effort into matching the song to her because it's clearly not working as is moepi love forever 😔💚 treat my girl right
Even having heard this not live, I never liked this song at all. It felt to me like it didn't know what it was doing with itself musically (The weird jumps between Japanese traditional music and something like D&B and something like dubstep). Even with watching this performance and not having the insight to vocal training you do, I can't comfortably watch this. It's been a struggle to get halfway through. Moepi is clearly struggling vocally, but I also think she looks incredibly sad and/or frightened. Sure, the dress is pretty on her... but I don't feel like it, the song, the concept, the dance, the character and the seiyuu mesh well at all. It's an utter mess.
@@lolnamelollastname9788 i could not agree more about the song actually. from the beginning i always felt like the instrumental had weirdly pitchy synths, lacked flow and energy, and modulated way too often to be warranted. i feel like the base concept of mixing trad + d&b was really interesting and i can hear where it could've gone but the final product feels severely rushed and unpolished. it just doesnt complement moepi and her skill at all.. if you listen to her live performance of Hoshiboshi no Kizuna or Pen : Chikara : Katana the difference is like night and day
@@lolnamelollastname9788 I thought I was only one who noticed this. When this song was presented, I wrote a similar comment in one community, but no one agreed with me and didn’t even "like" it
This son is already hard to sing sitting at home with an off vocal to back you up. Imagine having to perform a dance and sing WAY out of your range in front of thousands of people man....i feel so bad for her. I almost tear up watching her suffer like this
Althrough some of you think that she shouldn’t sing the song like this that doesn’t fit her, I think oppositely😢 I love her high note very much. I love this song
we all know how good of a singer moepii is but this chorus and bridge of this song is just not her range. they better stop ripping my girl’s vocal cords like what did to suwawa.
Aunque en algunas pequeñas partes decai el nivel, pero igual le pone mucho empeño, es lo que me gusta de esta moeka en esta cancion en el live, realmente le mete huevos
moepii es buena cantante simplemente está canción no está en su rango por lo que se hace más difícil cantarla además de que tiene que ser con la voz de shioriko
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自分は生粋のAqours推しだからあんまし他のグループに口出さないけど、この時の小泉萌香さんは緊張や不安、その時のコンディションも有ると思うけど、そう言ったのを乗り越えて今出せる最高のパフォーマンスをしたんだろうなと思う。
ファンと会場の一体感がラブライブの魅力だし、それを傍で見てて応援したくなるのが本当のファンだと思う。
バカにする奴の戯言聞く価値無し。
最初の部分は、不安な感情や変わりたいっていう決意とかが切ない顔をしてて、最後の方で覚悟決めた！みたいな感じで笑顔になるの凄く好き❤
確かにうまくはないがそれ以上に、かすれた声の中に切実さと必死さが伝わってきてエモい。
ぴの音域でこんなに声が出せるのは凄いよ。
EMOTIONほんとに高い。女の私でも結構キツい。それなのにぴは振りもありで歌えるのはほんとに凄いよ。
EMOTIONだけじゃなくて咬福論も結構高いし。最近の栞子の曲の音程、決意とかカナリアに比べてどんどん高くなってるよね。ラブライブ運営もう少しキャストの音程に合わせて曲を作ってくれ。
こんな会場で歌って踊ってるなんて裏で努力してきたのが不安も戦うもえぴ凄すぎる😭
もえぴはあくまで声優さん
わざわざ振り付け覚えて踊ってくれるだけでも本来凄い事だよ
この歌はハードルがかなり高い上
ずっとライブ歌い続けてたら声も出なくなる所は仕方ない
これだけで見て下手って言わないで欲しい…
というかこれはライブ向きじゃないムズいよ…少女歌劇でもえぴ好きになったからそっちも見てほしい()
ななちゃんのwi(l)d-screen baroqueめっちゃいいですよね！
それにもえぴはどんなに稽古とかリハがあっても弱音を吐かないって言ってましたよね！
she put her whole heart into this performance and you can see it on her face, i agree with other comments about this song not being the proper range for her. i love her
本当に歌ってるのが
すごく伝わって来て嬉しい♡
このクオリティで生歌しなきゃ行けないの辛いだろうな😢笑顔作ってて偉いよ😭
パッケージ化された加工音源と比べたら下手に聞こえるかもしれないけど、踊りながらこれだけ歌えたら十分にうまいと思う
不安定なところも含めて気持ちをこめて歌ってるんだなって感じる
いや、擁護するまでもなくド下手くそやろww
her voice is so strong but it really sounds like shes struggling here.. i feel so bad for her, moepi is so talented, i want her to reach for the stars and further!!! im cheering for you ♡♡♡♡
踊りながら生歌って大変だろうにがんばっててすごい、もえぴかわいい🥺
Simply amazing.
I'm a simple girl; I see Moepi, I click. She never disappoints!
Girls watch this Moeblob?
@@anirudhsukigakirei9397 😂😂
@@anirudhsukigakirei9397 Why wouldn't girls watch her? I have a sister who adores her.
@@anirudhsukigakirei9397 Yes she is an angel 😇
@@MintFish46 Noice!
全体曲とかもだけど、ニジガクの曲ってすごく高くない？？バンナムフェスのときも楠木さん居なくて皆さんとてもしんどそうだった
マジでこれ
ラブライブの歌練習してるけど、虹はμ'sとAqoursに比べるとめっちゃ高い
出ねえよ^_^
可愛過ぎるしダンスも凄いなって…最高やん。。
Moepi did so well 🥺 I agree this song is hard for her to perform but she still slayed
Moepii always nailed it.
もえぴ凄いプレッシャーの中、めちゃくちゃ緊張してるのがわかる
曲も音の幅が広いから振り付けもとなると大変だ
しかし、見てみてほしい、交後半の彼女の笑顔。
まさに栞子そのもの、それを目にできるなんて贅沢な空間だよまったく。
もえぴマジで美人すぎる
Bruh she's a good singer but people need to breath......
man i already cant sing this song normally without getting out of breath, let alone with intensive dance and performing in front of so many people... love live pls treat ur seiyuus better and dont just throw 100 layers of autotune over them in the bd
moepii still slayed tho
@@catscientistz right ..
@@catscientistz Moeka (Shioriko chan) always nailed it.
ALSO CAN WE TALK ABOUT HOW SHE'S WEARING HEALS WHILE SHE'S DANCING??? HELLO?
全速ドリーマー !
She's still growing into her voice for live performances; can't wait to see where she'll go from here
moepi is a great live singer this song just isn't built for live performance. tofubeats makes singles not concert tracks
一生懸命さが伝わってきて良いなぁ、関係ないけど足細くてスタイルめっちゃよきすぎる
こんだけ難しい歌を、あれだけ踊りながらじゃ歌はどうしても上手く歌えなくなるのは当然。
むしろ、こんだけ振りがついてると口パクになりそうなものを相当頑張ってパフォーマンスしてるなって思うな。
Hey just to clarify, though this is a pretty rough performance every other time I've seen Moepi perform this song live she's absolutely killed it. She's one of the best performers LL has seen and this is one of her best.
it's probably because it's from the live stream, the official blu ray releases are usually toouched up a bit
@@Ficojepet oh I meant the other live performances without the voice correction in the blu-rays, I honestly think the blu-rays sound really weird because of how excessive the voice correction is
Day3 performance was really good. She made a lot of improvement. She did her best.🥰
I found lovelive does not really try to fit for the seiyuu's capabilities when they compose their songs. MoeP is doing great in songs from Revue Starlight because the composers leaves enough time for her to breath in, not really for lovelive though.
literally revstar is the example to follow when it comes to writing For the seiyuu like just listen to an untreated rendition of sekai wo hai ni suru made satohina does not MISS
harmoe performances are also well-composed for performance. It's such a shame, sometimes I feel that they care more for the character than the seiyuu - like they put pressure on seiyuus to sing and dance in-character, which doesn't translate as well in lives. So many variables apply to live performance as opposed to studio recording: they need to project their voices more, the mics can falter and/or cut out, they need moments to breathe which some songs don't offer (see: Motto ne!), there's movement interfering with their singing, and sometimes they are being given vocal cues from their earpieces. I understand why Kinchan gets so stressed out from performing...
They kinda fixed that with Liella and that's why they sound a lot better when performing live
@@MiharuEndoh1 i mean liella and nijigaku are happening simultaneously and the earliest liella songs predate this one so it's really just a matter of tofubeats' coomposition and ppl either being unaware of or ignoring the strain on moepi
@@k4eru20 tbf, the amount of effort they are putting into liella is way more than any other previous group which i think is why they sound much stronger. However, I dunno why and maybe they are, but it seems like vocal training is something that idols tend to put on the back burner. Sayurin was literally dying when performing a few weeks ago cuz it's so vocally dependent on her. It's like LL is looking for talent, but then after they're like figure it out on your own. Or maybe vocals isn't the main highlight because they keep composing suwa to sing these ungodly high notes she just can't fucking hit and i don't know why nobody is changing that.
改めて聞いてみると2番のサビからcメロの流れキツすぎて草
She still trying to smile with us tho- 😭😭💗
息継ぎ大変そうかわいい大好き
Moepi look so pretty that’s all it matter~I like this song a lot even though she struggles mostly it felt really genuine to listen to her live singing voice
この曲好きめっちゃ最後らへんのところ
You can tell this song isn’t in her range and she’s really struggling to stabilize her voice. It doesn’t help that this song leaves absolutely no time to breathe at all so she can’t get a good breath to support herself. And the dance on top of that too? I feel bad for her.
as someone who's done a decade of vocal training, it hurts to listen to this live because i can feel how terrible it is for her voice and how painful it must be to try and force through a range that's not suited to her as well as a melody that's not good for live performance. and she's gotta wear a smile thru strenuous choreo to boot... i wish tofubeats and the vocal director had put more effort into matching the song to her because it's clearly not working as is
moepi love forever 😔💚 treat my girl right
she's soo pretty here tho the skirt is so flattering and cute and her legs look so good ughh i love moepi
All i see, only NIjiGaku Project has this kind of problem.
Even having heard this not live, I never liked this song at all. It felt to me like it didn't know what it was doing with itself musically (The weird jumps between Japanese traditional music and something like D&B and something like dubstep).
Even with watching this performance and not having the insight to vocal training you do, I can't comfortably watch this. It's been a struggle to get halfway through. Moepi is clearly struggling vocally, but I also think she looks incredibly sad and/or frightened.
Sure, the dress is pretty on her... but I don't feel like it, the song, the concept, the dance, the character and the seiyuu mesh well at all. It's an utter mess.
@@lolnamelollastname9788 i could not agree more about the song actually. from the beginning i always felt like the instrumental had weirdly pitchy synths, lacked flow and energy, and modulated way too often to be warranted. i feel like the base concept of mixing trad + d&b was really interesting and i can hear where it could've gone but the final product feels severely rushed and unpolished.
it just doesnt complement moepi and her skill at all.. if you listen to her live performance of Hoshiboshi no Kizuna or Pen : Chikara : Katana the difference is like night and day
@@lolnamelollastname9788 I thought I was only one who noticed this. When this song was presented, I wrote a similar comment in one community, but no one agreed with me and didn’t even "like" it
SHE SLAYED SO HARD
ダメ押し最後の転調ほんと好き
この曲むずすぎんか？？？
Now that i know Banana voiced i can't unhear that. She did wonderfully as Nana in Straight Revue.
Yes her voice as nana is my favorite
The choreography is so good
下手だと思う人はスタァライトのオケコン聞いてほしい。めちゃめちゃ上手いから。
This son is already hard to sing sitting at home with an off vocal to back you up. Imagine having to perform a dance and sing WAY out of your range in front of thousands of people man....i feel so bad for her. I almost tear up watching her suffer like this
모에삐 귀여워ㅓㅓ 💚💚💚
Althrough some of you think that she shouldn’t sing the song like this that doesn’t fit her, I think oppositely😢 I love her high note very much. I love this song
its not that it doesnt fit her, but its near impossible for her to sing consistently at higher ranges and i feel bad for her
It's just not her range of note, otherwise I would want her to sing every song in the world ! It's just not adapted to her voice
はっきり言って歌手と言えるレベルでは到底ないけど
緊張しながらも全力でぶつかってる感は伝わるし自分は好きだな。
이번 의상이랑 곡이랑 분위기랑 너무너무 이뻐...
Damn im the one is having a hard time breathing for her feel like im the one gasping for air but i love the performance
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😌😌😌 Voice is Really
もえぴスタァライトの時はすごい声も出てたし上手だったからこの時は緊張してたのかな？
下手でもいいんだもえぴが歌って踊ってるのに価値があるんだ
生で踊ってる見ただけで羨ましいよチケ当たらんから
もえぴめっちゃしんどそう
歌って踊るの本当に大変だよな😢
いや音域きつすぎかこの曲
スタイル良いからダンス映えるなあ
cant even give her a backtrack, poor girl
we all know how good of a singer moepii is but this chorus and bridge of this song is just not her range. they better stop ripping my girl’s vocal cords like what did to suwawa.
栞子の曲って難しくてキー高い曲多い気がする(ラブライブの曲自体がキー高いの多いけど)
Aunque en algunas pequeñas partes decai el nivel, pero igual le pone mucho empeño, es lo que me gusta de esta moeka en esta cancion en el live, realmente le mete huevos
Whenever i see my waibu, Shioriko Mifune. I always click straightaway.
めっちゃ緊張してる
She did her best ❤️, Aoi Canaria and Concentrate were better suited to her range. Still loved the performance tho! 💚
はぁ〜可愛い❤❤
目の保養です😊
俺は好き
声飛ばしちゃったのか暖まってないのかな？
完璧なライブも待ってるぜ～
♥️♥️♥️
これからに期待
좋아 누구
この前のスタァライトのオケコンクソ上手くてびびったけどこっちはどしたんやろ
もえぴって滅茶苦茶歌うまかったイメージあったけどどうしたんだろ
直前で大泣きしたとかかな？
会場とか音響とかマイクの影響もあるんじゃないか？
あとは単純に緊張してたのもあると思うしそもそも曲がムズいってのもあるからなぁ
マイク？曲とぴの声の相性？
なんかharmoeやスタァライトの時と比べると歌の調子が良くない気がする…
いや、もともとこいつ歌下手よ
@@かめお-t2fharmoeやスタァライトのライブはもっと調子良さそうだったよ。
歌の良し悪しはスポーツみたいに数字で可視化できないから、あなたの耳次第なとこあるけど。
@@積んだ積んだ普通に歌を良く聴く人は分かるよ。
じゃなかったらその職業の人達の仕事が成り立たんだろ
@@Gin-mo7qg 仰るとおりですよね。
「歌をよく聞く人」にオーディションで認めてもらってステージに立ってるはずなのに…。
ネットの野次と実際にステージに立ってデビューしている事実どちらが信憑性あるんだ？って思います。
海外勢めっちゃ酷評で草
この子の歌は上手いとか下手とかじゃない。心にくるかこないか。この子の歌は後者だよ
後者って事は来ないわけね…
プロのアーティストじゃないとパフォーマンスするの難しそう。肺活量いるし広い音域いるし繊細な身体表現がいるし‥。全体的に彼女のスキルが追いついてない
Todas comenzaron así, hasta el ort0 XD, ya mejorará
moepii es buena cantante simplemente está canción no está en su rango por lo que se hace más difícil cantarla además de que tiene que ser con la voz de shioriko
@@trini4354 ya se q es buena cantando, pero bailando es otra historia, es más difícil XD
大サビで大概の曲はキーがそのままだけど、これに関しては一段上がってるからしんどい。
The acoustics suck but she kills it with the dance!
ただでさえ難しいこの曲を振り付きで歌ったらそりゃCDには負けるだろうが
ディスるくらいならテメェがやってみろや
えー
Where is lanzhu zhong?!
this is a solo song ?
XDDD
これは曲調が難しい、音域が広い、これだけ踊りながら歌えれば充分。
下手とか言う奴は自分がやってみろって話。出来てから言え。以上
踊りながらは難しいとかなんやら言うとるやつはなんやねん、擁護できれば適当なこと言っとけばいいと思うなよ、どう見てもマイクに声が入ってないやん、サビとかあんだけ声出してんのにマイクに載ってきてない、単純に音響の問題。意味わからん擁護すんな
@@ih.6553 じゃあアンタが音響やれ。
@@ih.6553 ようは自分が出来てから人に文句言えってことな。アンタは完璧に音響出来るんか？できるなら言えよ
@@やまいちゆゆあ
>@I H. ようは自分が出来てから人に文句言えってことな。アンタは完璧に音響出来るんか？できるなら言えよ
何をどう見たら俺が音響に文句言ってるように見えるんだ？
文章読解力0やんけ
@@ih.6553 出来ねーやつが文句言う資格なんかねーつってんの、バカか
音響の問題て自分で書いてんだろ。頭弱いか
下手いけど可愛いわ
正直言って虹が音程とかズレてる時とか緊張とかしてるの前に練習ちゃんとしてんのかが真っ先に来るんだよな…
音程がなー
へっっっっったくそやんwwwwwwwww
ただでさえ難しいこの曲を振り付きで歌ったらそりゃCDには負けるだろうが
ディスるくらいならテメェがやってみろや
大きい舞台に立ってる時点でお前よりかは上手やんwwwwwwwww
お前よりは上手い
@@孔明-k5uプロと素人比べるってアホか？
そもそも一流のトレーナーや設備があって練習したら誰でも上手くなるは歌は人が歌ってるから練習すれば上手くなるよ下手なのは練習をしてないか足りないかの2択だけだよ。
めっちゃ緊張してる