I'm trying out a new thumbnail creator for some of these call-in videos. I know some of you have an issue with some of the titles and thumbs we will see how it goes 😀
I like this new format better. It helps me think of the key lesson. When I was a teacher, it was essential to write down on the board the one thing I hope they take away from my lesson.
Here's a guaranteed 100% tell: if someone bets the flop & you raise, when they ask how much you have behind & elect to call, they are trying to make sure you have enough in your stack to make it worth their while to chase a draw. "How much you got?" then all in means different things. Asking then calling? Never seen that with anything but a draw/marginal hand.
I think the caller got close to max value. He's probably not calling a jam on the river. The turn bet sizing could be a hair bigger, which allows you to bet a bit larger on the river.
I like when Bart says "Sometimes I cut my all in short by like $50. So instead of shoving $650 I shove $600". I believe the reason this works so well is something about hearing "ALL IN" scares low stakes players. It's like a Pavlov's dog response. They think "OH SHOOT! THIS IS IT!" Because a lot of time they're caught up in the hand and not looking closely at your stack, they might not even realize this is a virtual shove.
“It’s a good game people don’t know what they’re doing.” … hero x/r tiny on flop with top and bottom and can’t come up with why other than he was playing fast and not thinking 😂
Even if villain said "if you bet I'll raise" most casinos and card clubs won't consider this verbally binding. When it's your action and you announce certain keywords like "call" or "fold" or "raise" then yes, most casinos and cardrooms would consider this verbally binding. But most won't consider "if X then Y" statements made when it's not your action as verbally binding.
That immediately stuck out to me. Many times fish raise uncomfortable medium strength hands, and tend not to outright lie. Ax, KK, Q8s(maaaaybe), we’re my guesses.
There's nothing about his comment that is an angle shot or cheating. It's a blessing to hear a comment like that. Makes it obvious that he's capped and has showdown value. It's basically a certainty that villain is 50+ considering this level 1 gamesmanship also.
600 is a better bet against AK or AQ, but 300 is a better bet against any other Ace. So it's a question of which type of Ace does this guy show up with more often. I'm guessing AK or AQ is more likely, because a guy has to be pretty nuts to 3 bet the flop with a hand like A-10. But it turns out this villain is nuts....
Villain is probably not going to have AQ when he makes the speech. The snap weak check raise to induce is brilliant against the right villain. I'll have to incorporate it into my game.
As just speech play for the lulz that's fine, but even if he said "yes" the Floor would probably still not consider this verbally binding action because action isn't on him
@@jeremymorley5670 There's no probably. It isn't his turn to act, so no matter what he says it isn't considered action. "If you do this then I'll do this" is never binding. Ever.
I thought he played it pretty well nothing to beat yourself up about. In my experience people at these stakes have trouble calling bets above $500 unless they are pretty nutted.
@@SerErryk Borgata 20/40 is still amazing, but only runs friday/saturday. Sometimes Thursday and sunday 15/30 at parx is dead, 40/80 at parx is probably the craziest game in the country. 10-12k swings are normal
I kinda disagree with Bart here. I love that river value bet. It almost looks like a blocker bet, and an ace will almost always call here, whereas it would fold the jam. The only calls might be AK, AQ, or bigger boats
In a vacuum a $300 river bet vs a $600 river bet in this situation is probably pretty close to equal. The lower percent of calls but more value would probably be equal to the inverse in the long run given a player pool of normal distribution. However there is merit to leaning one way or another and that is simply your read on the opponent or your local player pool. Against some players who are loose and you can tell losing a 1K buyin is not a huge deal then all day bet $600 on river. Against some players who are tighter or you can tell the money means more to them than targeting chop-hopeful hands is obv the best play.
@@jeremymorley5670 for sure, and every scenario is different. My best advice is always not to fall into a default mentality, where you "always" do x or y, besides obvious exceptions (range c bets if thats your style, standard opens, etc.)
@@CrushlivePoker Completely understand this POV, and i would be much more likely to jam in a 2/5 or 5/10. Also love your concept of leaving a bit behind to entice a call. Always learning something new from CLP
I've found that if you are using the near all in trick, it's important to actually put the money over the betting line. Foe needs to actually see you have a small amount left, which often gets interpreted as you afraid of getting ALL your money in, because you need that $30 extra.
Raising in crazy games OOP with KQ can get you in real trouble unless you flop the Knuts or nut draw . Even when u hit with a pair and a flush draw in a multi way you not gonna always have the nut draw in these pots people love to see the flop with the A of diamonds.
Bart knows where his bread is buttered… he just can’t be honest with a fish that calls in? Oh my job is to treat the fish nice because they’re my MONEY hahaha. The way BART makes cash is milking fools derrrrrr
This hand is just so poorly played by all involved. SB should never be raising on the flop. The SB should never be donking the turn. The BB should not be 3-betting the flop with AT, and the BB should not be call the river either.
In my opinion, and being results oriented, the hero played this hand perfectly. The unorthodox small check raise made villain s*azz out, and then the river bet of 300 targeted AT much better, even though it really looked like the villain had AK. I think villain definitely folds to a jam, as well as 600
@@Stockhandle123 that’s you. A lot of small stakes players could be playing with their only money. Or not have any more cash with them so they’re knocked out if they call it off with a marginal hand
Terry, don't you think a normal check raise is getting called off on the flop though? Hell, villain might even throw in the even larger 3! (makes great sense cause AT isn't a bad holding on the flop) and when you call flop bet turn you actually get stacks in. That's the thing, you turned the best value you can get. You have to get stacks in, and the bad check raise sizing is why we don't here. Having said that, minor to moderate leak, IMO. I mean, it's not in the category of playing J4s and getting over flushed and wondering why it keeps happening.
There is a ZERO percent chance that dude believed he had an 8, and STILL called! Something like that is just as stupid as believing that your opponent has A high, and STILL calling it off with something ridiculous, like J 4!
unless the hero is a very loose player then the villain is a super donk here. after the hero calls the 3 bet on the flop theres no hand you can beat or hope to chop with besides AJ. Only a loose aggressive player would keep bluffing at the pot.....Gotta love 1/3 tables
Calllers shouldn’t of limped in, shouldn’t of reraised on flip to only 2.5x the raise, and should’ve bet bigger on turn and river. Trust me, it’s easy when you’re on this side of the screen
Anytime someone asks you to check it down it's always a medium strength hand that scared of putting in any more money. What's hilarious is fish will ask to check it down with draws or even medium pocket pairs pre-flop, hands where the entire value is to smash the board and stack someone.
I recognized online when weaker player not shoving on river when he has less than pot size to shove and doing milk bets its usually those players who are very strong but they are scared u not going to call their allin so for me its bigger sign of strength than allin which has bigger propensity to be sometimes a bluff
I don’t like calling the raise PF in this spot, especially heads up where we will be check folding a lot or getting crushed by better Aces. We are out of position, facing a raiser over several limpers without any range advantage. On the flop, I like a bigger raise because we are not repping much and should get called a ton by stations like this table seems to consist of. Versus a better player a big raise still is good most of the time because of what we are repping is so narrow and I like building a pot with strong but vulnerable hands. Once the villain 3 bets this flop, I’m shocked he plays A10 this strong. Unless you have a read that this guy overplays hands and is hyper aggressive, this is a fold a ton especially at low levels where people play very face up. I’ve played tons of low limit and while people overvalue hands, they are not over aggressive with just top pair.
I think you can just shove on the river, because it's kind of hard for villain to put you on many eights that call a 3-bet on the flop. There's really only A8 (which V blocks), and 88 which there's only one combo of. So if they have an ace they're probably going to sigh call any bet on the river.
Even if villain said "if you bet I'll raise" most casinos and card clubs won't consider this verbally binding. When it's your action and you announce certain keywords like "call" or "fold" or "raise" then yes, most casinos and cardrooms would consider this verbally binding. But most won't consider "if X then Y" statements made when it's not your action as verbally binding even if he hadn't used the word "might"
I meant u should feign weakness by asking if his offer to check it down is binding. But I guess it's kind of transparent if you go "is his check binding?" "No" "well then i'm all in."
I'm trying out a new thumbnail creator for some of these call-in videos. I know some of you have an issue with some of the titles and thumbs we will see how it goes 😀
I love the outrageous, "click-baity" thumbnails because the juxtaposition with the calm, logical content is so damn funny to me
Same. I liked your old thumbnails
I love the click baity thumbnails just to see how ridiculous they can get sometimes. I just get a kick out of some of them
I like this new format better. It helps me think of the key lesson. When I was a teacher, it was essential to write down on the board the one thing I hope they take away from my lesson.
don't mind the layout & font size. The photo editing of your face might be a little much though.
1:20 “I don’t know how loosey goosey these guys are”
Were they eating a sandwich?
Here's a guaranteed 100% tell: if someone bets the flop & you raise, when they ask how much you have behind & elect to call, they are trying to make sure you have enough in your stack to make it worth their while to chase a draw. "How much you got?" then all in means different things. Asking then calling? Never seen that with anything but a draw/marginal hand.
I think the caller got close to max value. He's probably not calling a jam on the river. The turn bet sizing could be a hair bigger, which allows you to bet a bit larger on the river.
I like when Bart says "Sometimes I cut my all in short by like $50. So instead of shoving $650 I shove $600". I believe the reason this works so well is something about hearing "ALL IN" scares low stakes players. It's like a Pavlov's dog response. They think "OH SHOOT! THIS IS IT!" Because a lot of time they're caught up in the hand and not looking closely at your stack, they might not even realize this is a virtual shove.
“It’s a good game people don’t know what they’re doing.” … hero x/r tiny on flop with top and bottom and can’t come up with why other than he was playing fast and not thinking 😂
so, that's the best proof he was right!
Villian didn't lie if he said "I MIGHT have to raise you if you bet.". He didn't commit to anything.
Even if villain said "if you bet I'll raise" most casinos and card clubs won't consider this verbally binding. When it's your action and you announce certain keywords like "call" or "fold" or "raise" then yes, most casinos and cardrooms would consider this verbally binding. But most won't consider "if X then Y" statements made when it's not your action as verbally binding.
@@jeremymorley5670 bro nobody was accusing him of cheating lmao. obviously he doesn’t have to raise.
That immediately stuck out to me. Many times fish raise uncomfortable medium strength hands, and tend not to outright lie. Ax, KK, Q8s(maaaaybe), we’re my guesses.
@@noThankyou-g5c Hero should have said, "Well I haven't even looked at my hand yet".
There's nothing about his comment that is an angle shot or cheating. It's a blessing to hear a comment like that. Makes it obvious that he's capped and has showdown value. It's basically a certainty that villain is 50+ considering this level 1 gamesmanship also.
"By the way... he LIED to you." 😆😆😆
He didn’t. He said he MIGHT raise you.
@@bohuai4021 To be fair, that is correct, sir!
600 is a better bet against AK or AQ, but 300 is a better bet against any other Ace. So it's a question of which type of Ace does this guy show up with more often. I'm guessing AK or AQ is more likely, because a guy has to be pretty nuts to 3 bet the flop with a hand like A-10. But it turns out this villain is nuts....
Villain is probably not going to have AQ when he makes the speech. The snap weak check raise to induce is brilliant against the right villain. I'll have to incorporate it into my game.
Guy says that people in this card room don’t know what they’re doing and then he butchers the hand. 😀
When someone threatens to raise I like to ask "Do you promise?"
As just speech play for the lulz that's fine, but even if he said "yes" the Floor would probably still not consider this verbally binding action because action isn't on him
@@jeremymorley5670 There's no probably. It isn't his turn to act, so no matter what he says it isn't considered action. "If you do this then I'll do this" is never binding. Ever.
@@jeremymorley5670 Obviously not binding, just fun
@@Dynamice1337 Important to note though that physical action (as opposed to just verbal) when done out of turn can be binding if action doesn't change
I thought he played it pretty well nothing to beat yourself up about. In my experience people at these stakes have trouble calling bets above $500 unless they are pretty nutted.
Lol, the guy 3-bet the flop with AT 😂
Low stakes players love these kinds of plays so they can "see where I'm at" lol
@@jeremymorley5670 Funny thing is after doing this they still don't "know where they are at".
why?
@@aheroictaxidriver3180or JT maybe, which he blocks.
Yeah pretty dire play by villain.
@@jeremymorley5670 Gabe Kaplan used to say this all the time on HSP. Probably where they get their strats from.
Dead man’s hand stays victorious
These videos are really helpful. Ive been playing mid stakes LHE for years on the east coast. These videos are great for transitioning to NL
Do they still have good limit games out there $15/30+?
@@SerErryk Borgata 20/40 is still amazing, but only runs friday/saturday. Sometimes Thursday and sunday
15/30 at parx is dead, 40/80 at parx is probably the craziest game in the country. 10-12k swings are normal
I kinda disagree with Bart here. I love that river value bet. It almost looks like a blocker bet, and an ace will almost always call here, whereas it would fold the jam. The only calls might be AK, AQ, or bigger boats
Exactly my logic here.
In a vacuum a $300 river bet vs a $600 river bet in this situation is probably pretty close to equal. The lower percent of calls but more value would probably be equal to the inverse in the long run given a player pool of normal distribution. However there is merit to leaning one way or another and that is simply your read on the opponent or your local player pool. Against some players who are loose and you can tell losing a 1K buyin is not a huge deal then all day bet $600 on river. Against some players who are tighter or you can tell the money means more to them than targeting chop-hopeful hands is obv the best play.
@@jeremymorley5670 for sure, and every scenario is different. My best advice is always not to fall into a default mentality, where you "always" do x or y, besides obvious exceptions (range c bets if thats your style, standard opens, etc.)
My contention here is that this is a lot more AK vs anything else given preflop and also the 3 bet to the check raise on such a dry board.
@@CrushlivePoker Completely understand this POV, and i would be much more likely to jam in a 2/5 or 5/10. Also love your concept of leaving a bit behind to entice a call. Always learning something new from CLP
Imagine 3 betting that flop with A 10
I've found that if you are using the near all in trick, it's important to actually put the money over the betting line.
Foe needs to actually see you have a small amount left, which often gets interpreted as you afraid of getting ALL your money in, because you need that $30 extra.
Great video Bart. Thanks for all the great content.
Raising in crazy games OOP with KQ can get you in real trouble unless you flop the Knuts or nut draw . Even when u hit with a pair and a flush draw in a multi way you not gonna always have the nut draw in these pots people love to see the flop with the A of diamonds.
Bart knows where his bread is buttered… he just can’t be honest with a fish that calls in? Oh my job is to treat the fish nice because they’re my MONEY hahaha. The way BART makes cash is milking fools derrrrrr
This hand is just so poorly played by all involved. SB should never be raising on the flop. The SB should never be donking the turn. The BB should not be 3-betting the flop with AT, and the BB should not be call the river either.
If one of your problems in the game is "you don't really stop to think," you shouldn't play poker.
A10? Lol where do you guys find these games?!
Why do I get shown aces every time I get kings huh? Whats the strategy to beat that?
Jaw hit the floor when he said isleta. Never seen one of the 505 casinos on here.
Caller is good player
In my opinion, and being results oriented, the hero played this hand perfectly. The unorthodox small check raise made villain s*azz out, and then the river bet of 300 targeted AT much better, even though it really looked like the villain had AK. I think villain definitely folds to a jam, as well as 600
In small stakes i fold to a small bet on the river but i snap call a jam.
@@Stockhandle123 that’s you. A lot of small stakes players could be playing with their only money. Or not have any more cash with them so they’re knocked out if they call it off with a marginal hand
@@terrysword7739 that’s a pretty dumb strategy. You can play your best if you’re afraid to go broke.
@@Stockhandle123 it’s not a good strategy no, but that doesn’t mean a lot of players don’t do it.
Terry, don't you think a normal check raise is getting called off on the flop though? Hell, villain might even throw in the even larger 3! (makes great sense cause AT isn't a bad holding on the flop) and when you call flop bet turn you actually get stacks in. That's the thing, you turned the best value you can get. You have to get stacks in, and the bad check raise sizing is why we don't here.
Having said that, minor to moderate leak, IMO. I mean, it's not in the category of playing J4s and getting over flushed and wondering why it keeps happening.
You have to make a wackier face in the thumbnail.
White Magic
This was not a 3 bet pot as was alluded to by Bart it was an ISO raise. So AK is going to be more prevalent if it was a 3 bet pre.
There is a ZERO percent chance that dude believed he had an 8, and STILL called! Something like that is just as stupid as believing that your opponent has A high, and STILL calling it off with something ridiculous, like J 4!
It’s not double paired Bart
You would take off suit broadways over a suited Ace... but not deep?
Ok so whats deep? 1000 at 1/3 seems hella deep.
Tom Dawn plays every suited hand and people remark-he seems to get alot of flushes. Just sayin’
unless the hero is a very loose player then the villain is a super donk here. after the hero calls the 3 bet on the flop theres no hand you can beat or hope to chop with besides AJ. Only a loose aggressive player would keep bluffing at the pot.....Gotta love 1/3 tables
that's what I thought... this guy doesn't have AQ! (Let's see the rest of the hand...) [Kids; don't drink and type ;) ]
Calllers shouldn’t of limped in, shouldn’t of reraised on flip to only 2.5x the raise, and should’ve bet bigger on turn and river. Trust me, it’s easy when you’re on this side of the screen
Anytime someone asks you to check it down it's always a medium strength hand that scared of putting in any more money. What's hilarious is fish will ask to check it down with draws or even medium pocket pairs pre-flop, hands where the entire value is to smash the board and stack someone.
Speaking of thumbnails, phil always gives his strength away, well in the sense that he always lets it be known that he DOESN'T have the nuts at least.
I recognized online when weaker player not shoving on river when he has less than pot size to shove and doing milk bets its usually those players who are very strong but they are scared u not going to call their allin so for me its bigger sign of strength than allin which has bigger propensity to be sometimes a bluff
What did he say and it was a tell?
5:41. Watch the video.
@@whirlingdervish69 👍 Thanks
Had never raised A8
Wonder what Mr Hickock would think...
Sounds like a 10j speech ?
I don’t like calling the raise PF in this spot, especially heads up where we will be check folding a lot or getting crushed by better Aces.
We are out of position, facing a raiser over several limpers without any range advantage.
On the flop, I like a bigger raise because we are not repping much and should get called a ton by stations like this table seems to consist of.
Versus a better player a big raise still is good most of the time because of what we are repping is so narrow and I like building a pot with strong but vulnerable hands.
Once the villain 3 bets this flop, I’m shocked he plays A10 this strong.
Unless you have a read that this guy overplays hands and is hyper aggressive, this is a fold a ton especially at low levels where people play very face up.
I’ve played tons of low limit and while people overvalue hands, they are not over aggressive with just top pair.
@@aheroictaxidriver3180 I am to the 3B and I’ll be right more than I am wrong.
Isleta. I go here. Glad I watched this
I really appreciate the low stakes live reviews. 💪
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LoL, sounds like Sandia!
0:26 _people don't know what they're doing_
I saw your play. Agreed.
I think you can just shove on the river, because it's kind of hard for villain to put you on many eights that call a 3-bet on the flop.
There's really only A8 (which V blocks), and 88 which there's only one combo of. So if they have an ace they're probably going to sigh call any bet on the river.
Then again if they're the type to say "if you bet, might have to raise you" are they really thinking of any of that 😅
@@pugsnhogz yeah I'm betting villain was not thinking about blockers and combos...
Isleta still doing locals only?
Going to play at m8trix in the bay tonight 🤞🏼
Just looked them up today online. How was the play? How many tables?
Timestamp for verbal tell: 5:41
Its also in the time stamps
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That's same bet.
The right play in reply is to ask the dealer if this verbal declaration is binding.
The verbal declaration that "I MIGHT raise you All-In!" ?
Even if villain said "if you bet I'll raise" most casinos and card clubs won't consider this verbally binding. When it's your action and you announce certain keywords like "call" or "fold" or "raise" then yes, most casinos and cardrooms would consider this verbally binding. But most won't consider "if X then Y" statements made when it's not your action as verbally binding even if he hadn't used the word "might"
I meant u should feign weakness by asking if his offer to check it down is binding. But I guess it's kind of transparent if you go "is his check binding?" "No" "well then i'm all in."
Villain's statement is 100% legally binding. Rules dictate that Villain has to raise pot once he has said that.
no