Force Recon Marine Recounts Almost Using Nuclear Warheads
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How about vetting your supposed “Force Recon” guests Frogman…..
He’s spewing Bunch of bullshit
My father in Vietnam was a sergeant and got to call in fire from those huge Navy ships. He said it was the most badass thing he’s ever seen. He said you could see the fucking shells flying through the air.
That sound fucking awsome
Anglico
Damn
My uncle was a machinist mate in the St Louise on the firing line. 67 I think, maybe 68. Not no 16 inchers but they did NGS all day all night. He said we they would run into grunt on leave those guys would be so honored to thank someone from those ships because they were like their guardian angles.
Wow man thats insane😮
Whether or not they used chemical weapons has been argued since 1991, but one thing that cannot be argued is the fact that on the second day of the ground war many of the units within the 18th Airborne Corps, including the First Brigade, 24th Infantry Division (Heavy Mech) of which I was in reported their chemical alarms going off and positive test results when using M8 chemical detection paper. I'm talking hundreds of Chemical detection alarms that use a fan to draw in air that runs through an analyzer that sounds an audible alarm tone if chemical weapons are detected. There were also a number of French army units with Fox Chemical Recon vehicles that reported the presence of chemical weapons within the 18th Airborne Corps Area of Operations. All of these alarms detecting chemical weapons, and M8 detector paper positive test results were dismissed outright as malfunctioning equipment and faulty test papers. They said it was diesel fuel causing false positives and setting off alarms. But how believable is that when you consider that our Alarms were the same ones we had been using in training exercises for years, with dozens training exercises in the two prior years that I had been on without ever having one of these alarms sound an alert, but now hundreds of them malfunction on the same day and coincidentally so does the French equipment that is totally different from our own. Top that off with the fact that a huge ammunition depot that was later destroyed by combat engineers with explosive demo charges (It was done in a rush to prevent it's use in the future by Iraqi forces but had to be completed quickly in order to avoid US forces violating the cease fire agreement withdrawal deadline) that was later confirmed to have contained stockpiles of chemical munitions by General Schwartzkoph during testimony before Congress. It is easier for me to believe that Iraqi forces, with a proven known history of using chemical weapons against the Kurds in Northern Iraq and the Iranians during the 10 year long Iran/Iraq war tried to use chemical weapons against Coalition forces that had invaded Iraq, that due to disrupted and destroyed communications abilities along with extremely fast, accurate, and overwhelming counter battery artillery fire the attempts were piecemeal and had no affects on coalition forces in the immediate time frame but small amounts absorbed into our bodies may have had long term affects that are still killing DS/DS veterans today. That is much more plausible than all our equipment malfunctioned simultaneously despite years of use with nobody ever reporting malfunctions previously.
You're forgetting the most important part. The US and its European allies gave Saddam the chemical and biological precursors to make these weapons in the first place.
The truth will never be worth more than preventing another Osama Bin Laden on the 4th page of the New York Times holding an American rifle, captioned as an American ally/freedom fighter.
I’m sorry this happened to you. Thank you for your service. I was raised by Desert Storm guys. A special breed.
Saddam was specifically accused of having weaponized yellow cake uranium. Where was it?
in what way did they?
@@bradhernandez8841
All that adds up and it seems most likely they did use chem/bio weapons to a limited extent. And with nukes being the promised response it seems reasonable to overlook such limited and ineffective use. And say we're gonna pretend we didn't see you being that stupid, cuz otherwise it'll get real ugly.
I was a TOW gunner during DS/DS. I remember those damn chemical weapons sirens. It got to the point, we just left all the gear on and suffered instead of constantly having to don it.
0352!!
I can hear it over the ship intercom now...
"Don gas masks don gas masks!"
gas gas gas!
That thumbnail is so unnecessary 😅
This show is about as real as that picture
He used extraction for another thumb nail
No it's not lol
😂
So is the InstaCart ad, and I’m a chef.
Bruh really put a 25kill streak on the thumbnail 😂😂
Was your guest at 1st Recon because I was at 3rd Recon (86-93) during GulfWar our training and readiness was much greater. We also deployed 2 full companies to Gulf War ( Alpha & Charlie) , although the Col. from 1st Recon made a combined Recon command and tasking for all Recon units. At 3rd Recon we all went to Naval Gunfire school in PI and called in Naval Guns, helicopter gunships, artillery , we would go to Clark AFB and call in Fast movers and laser targets. We had 6 month CQB packages that started back in 87 every cycle. We competed in National asset evals held each year. We were always busy with missions.
My husband was a recon in the gulf War too
I was Artillery in the Corps during this time, we were one of the first units on the ground. We were briefed on the tactical nukes, which were supposed to be used if he used bio/chem weapons against us, but were never "ready to use them" and we were involved in a good bit of combat. We used more Copperhead rounds, which we were never trained on or used in training.
What’s a copperhead round? Fmj?
@@matthewmaynard5460 It is a laser guided 155mm round.
The 82nd Airborne was there, as an entire division, nearly 2 months before anyone else arrived. Sitting on the border. But yeah. Ok.
@@dogfaceponysoldierhe said he was 1 of the first dummy.. kill your over patriotic bs
@@dogfaceponysoldier So you guys were there 2 months before he invaded???? We arrived in Saudi days after he invaded.
It’s amazing to listen to all of these guys tell their stories. I never seen combat, was an infantryman. It’s just cool to listen to them. I’m actually glad I never had to experience combat.
Like these old grumbly dudes were once like me. Just living life, training all the time, doing stuff you don’t want to do when you really don’t want to do it. But then they all have that smile on their face, remembering the boys and goofiness of it all. A bunch of kids from all over, in one spot just sucking it up. Looking down the barrel that is potential hell. A profession as old as humanity itself, 2nd only to prostitution. It doesn’t matter what generation it is either, WW2 to Afghanistan, they all got that “I can’t believe that happened” nonchalant attitude. Nothing but my respect. From a non combat vet to a combat vet, thanks for standing in my place old man 🦅🇺🇸
I was on DDG 107. NGFS was my thing. I qualified three times. I’ve shot for seals and marines over the bridge. I love hearing you guys say “call for fire training” because i shot the gun.
My dad was part of the design team on the C-141. Growing up there was a framed pic of it taking off with a bunch of signatures on it around the house.
badass
That f*cking thumbnail, though. Phahahahha. Love this show, man.
Shawn, you need to interview my cousin.
Started in the National Guard, join the regular army, 82nd Airborne, fought in Kuwait with them, then went to SF. Dude has been around the world, seen everything. Then went and worked kbr in Iraq and in Afghanistan with another company. His life is definitely a storybook.
No
if you don't tell him who your cuz is he won't be able to contact him
I’m the only guy in my unit that used a disposable because I knew their computers would crash. I have about 50 pictures from my disposable from my 06-07 Haditha tour. Some really rare photos that you won’t find anywhere else. I had them developed when I got home. I got blown up by a mortar once on post and shrapnel split out bulletproof glass.
I got in Saudi 12AUG90, deploying from Langley AFB. It was eerie, being in ahead of most ground forces.
Force Recon Marine? Learned how to Patrol? Learned how to Clear Rooms? Learned Call for Fire? Learned 50Cal HS&T, Fired AT4 for First Time? Received Incoming Fire from MLRS? Local Artillery Units had Nuclear Warheads Available? WUT??? HMMMM????
I F’ing love history and especially hearing from the ones that were at the beginning of history! What a Great guest.
I was recalled when it was Shield. Reported to Oceana from NAS Dallas. The entire squadron was on leave. Apparently they had just returned from a med cruise. The guy checking me in asked why I was recalled to their squadron and I said, apparently we're going to war I guess. He said no, we just got back from a cruise. 2 hours later they were busy recalling all personnel from leave.
Oh, I know which boat carried the nukes. 😉 Obviously they were never used.
USS America carried nukes with W division during desert storm. Clinton then denuclesrized all surface ships in 93. This has been declassified now in case you didn't know. It's been declassified since 2015 or 2016.
I didn't serve where this gentleman did but at the same time. Him talking about the gear, etc brings back memories. We deployed with same low-tech gear. The crappy mopp gear, flak jackets, and still in Woodland BDU's.
so you weren't special forces im assuming
@@turkishman4202 No. No tales of HALO jumps and 2 mile long sniper shots. Just a grunt and proud of it.
We were the 5th MEB. I believe the Force dudes with us were from 4th but I’m not sure. What I do know is, those dudes were flippin scary. They had a comm box that had all “secret” type weapons. Bar, Thompson etc. I made them these pistol holsters on their blouses that you couldn’t tell was a holster but just the pocket. They wanted them in the event they were taken prisoner and had that surprise MF weapon.
One of my Marine buddies was an artillery guy, and he said the same thing about being ready to use tactical nukes.
and he was a liar
@@Plumbump ad hominem much? Troll elsewhere youngster.
As a veteran, he is telling the truth about gears or lack there of. Such a shame!!!!
I love hearing these stories. Thanks Shawn 🍻
forgot about everyone buying weapons thinking they could bring your own stuff.
I’ve never heard that before, I can’t believe anyone expected to take their own shit over there.
The first rule of thumb when purchasing a firearm is: Taurus is terrible!
Except TX22 SC comp 🤙
Ehh..I got a PT-1911 on leave in like 2008 I think. If im not mistaken it is like a "first gen". Anyways not ONE issue with it to this day. 3k rounds at a min. Everything from top notch ammo down to some nasty messed up reloads of mine lol. The ambi safes get a bit loose and can fall out esp someone like me resting a thumb on it but thats the only issue with it..
Im from Brazil and I hate to agree. Old revolvers were nice, I still have one from 40+ years ago.
Got a newer one (825 38spl) and the damn thing jammed on double action. Threw it in the trash, got a S&W and never looked back.
Somewhere down the line they lost any quality control.
Everyone always says they dump thousands of rounds through their shit Taurus pistols but weirdly enough there's no videos of these things happening.
PLENTY of videos of them failing tho 😂
@@Italkmadshitlol Yeah I wish I would have recorded my self every single time I hit the range or went out on some land...I kinda wish I did but not my thing and the ones I do have is when its been a group of us shooting. But I promise you the only taurus I have never failed...I pick my glocks etc over it 100% but js.
Jesus Christ the M9 was a hell of a lot better pistol than that Taurus!
Hell, elements of the 82nd were there in Aug after being notified 18 hours before. The rest of the Div. was there within 3 weeks.
It sounds like he's talking about Operation Vigilante Warrior. We called it that in the Army.
My favourite podcast. / Yt At the moment. I do some long driving. For work. Love listening to this show whilst in the car.
I was serving at that time and just missed that deployment by a few weeks .
Somebody suggested nuking the cave system they thought OBL was hiding in. Fortunately, that wasn't seriously considered.
I would have been okay with that.
@@ralphholiman7401 Well, I wouldn't have shed any tears for them, but I'd prefer we didn't use nukes for anything save other nukes. They are much more useful as threats than actual bombs.
Thermobaric bombs generally do the job on cave systems and bunkers, without all that pesky radiation.
@@GUNNER67akaKelt , I think lighting up Osama Bin Laden to 20,000 degrees would have been extremely useful.
@@ralphholiman7401 Lol. I was more worried about the mountain.
It would have been a mistake. No confirmation that we got him. Constant rumors and lies that he was still out there. What we did was the only way.
Thank you for your show Mr. Ryan, and your guest today. Very enlightening
Dear Shawn,
Perhaps you could have Akio Nakatani, the author of Death Object on your show. Many Japanese people have been writing about the bombs that never dropped. All the best!
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Man I love how this guy tells stories, almost everyone can relate in some way.
This guy is hilarious😂👏,and genuine.
Appreciate the laugh, from an army grunt of Shawn's era
I thought I was gonna watch a CoD killstreak 😂😂😂
Who doesn’t love alittle nuking 🤷🏻♂️
I love the sky is brutal honesty. He doesn't even pretend he know shit is awesome. He's a bad ass you could tell that.
I'm still pissed I got out just before Honduras. I didn't join to make beds you can bounce a quarter off of and to have spit-shined boots.
Notice, how Shawn left his seat when there was a mention of tactical nuke use?
I got a buddy with the 1st of the 3rd he said exactly the same things.
Been to Saudi and Yemen it’s a whole different ball game especially Yemen the air is different in those places.
One of my favorite pictures I have is me throwing food off to these scared starving Iraqi kids while on ambush. I have a picture also of me with PUCs from when we fought them over a school we opened. I have lots of goodies. My pictures, my Purple Heart, the mine sign I took when walking through a mine field, etc all of it just sits in a box in my closet.
Cool that shawn is humble enough to darken out his name on the sign on wall behind the guest. To read "THE SHOW"
Great episode.have you interview Remi Adeledge ex Navy SEAL. He works with a organization that deal with human and organ trafficking. Keep up the good work.
Only a marine would be like oh just a lil Nuke lmao
We had a Marine that DID take his own pistol… got in a lot of trouble for it… but he carried it almost all deployment. Why not? Honest question.
It has to do with ammo and parts availability for non standard gear.
@@ferratilis It’s not the military’s gear… it is my personally owned sidearm. It has nothing to do with the military logistical system in the same way that the deodorant or underwear I take… are my choices. The ammo is exactly the same. The parts… depending on the type of pistol I bring… again… exactly the same.
@@jastrapper190liability most likely. They don’t want some retarded LCpl with a handgun they haven’t training on running around. Also if you’ve ever been in the military is all about uniformity and control.
You can imagine some SgtMaj just having an aneurism at the thought
@@poolee77 Yes. But why?
My old roommate was a marine over there. He had a Nike shoe box full of id's from Sadam's army. Not one of them was over 18 years old. He said when they would go into their holes, bugs would jump all over them. Thank you both for your service and extra time.
Can you explain this? What holes?
@@RT-qz5ci Foxholes, and turd bunkers in the sand.
He said they were just boys that had nothing, and were covered in fleas and lice, and scared shitless
Tell your editor or whoever does the thumbnails, they nailed it! 🤜🤛
That fucking thumbnail 😂
This guy is the Very First Soldier from Back then who actually knew exactly what the hell he was saying. He was Dead on Point, I went To Cambell many times and partied with The 101st. Cats I am telling those Bro Bro could flat out lay it down. When the Their Bragg Buddies would come over to theArea just to Kick the Shit of Cambell Guys atThe Local Pubs lolll
I remember being at soi using the 9mm tracer attachment on the at4 thinking to myself theres no way in hell this 9 mil attachment is kicking like an 84 mm anti tank round. Still makes no sense to me
Yeah bro big difference between 9 and the actual 84😂
Its not about the recoil lol its about the ballistic
@@winkiiiie wtf are you talking about of course the recoil matters. If you go to fire a weapon and it takes you off guard because you're not used to the way it kicks there's a good chance you're going to be off target
@@jamesblake5176 you do realize that at4 and 84mm are RECOILLESS rifle 🤣🤣 thats why they have a back blast area. I will throwback your question to you.. what the fuck are YOU talking about 🤣🤣 tracer rounds are used to emulate the ballistic, not the recoil as there is no recoil technically. Stop arguing about stuff you have no experience with
Plus plus plus: not knowing the recoil of something makes you MORE accurate as you dont anticipate a recoil and dont flinch the weapon. Literally everything you said is wrong lol classic youtube comment section moment right here
@@jamesblake5176There's no recoil in an AT4. It just goes lol.
1:50 never trust a Taurus…. The car or the gun
This ninja didn't even get 30 kills tryna pump fake a nuke
Was at Irwin/NTC, in the end of January 91, was TDY to Saudi for DS!!!! Day after the ground war ended, was shipped back to NTC briefing our people on lessons learned from it!
Ol’ NTC. A special kind of paradise.
@@pwayne3580 lol, did rotations there in the 80s! 91 after DS, I went back to Korea again, to get out of there!!!! Always said, NTC was great duty and learned a lot, but not a great duty station! 🤣
@@ShondaCarter-tp7xx Thanks, truly miss it, did 20 yrs and been over 22 years now since I retired from the Army!!
That's how we DDogs rolled back then. The MOPP suits and the alarms were the worst at first, but eventually after about 5 false alarms no one really paid attention. PGW Vets most likely exposed to low levels of sarin gas as part of the cocktail of chemical exposures. The PGW was the most environmentally hazardous and toxic excluding the knukes.
Does this man not have a name? It would help trying to find other interviews he might have done.
Gulf War Syndrome? Little Timmy McVey took out those records in Oklahoma City Cookout? Wonder how he got the directions?
Waco
Crazy , those years I had a few taurus pistols , I still have one of them too lol never had issue, many thousands rounds down range no issues lol much love and respect to fellow vets and everyone, just had this thought when he mentioned the taurus pistol breaking first time he used it, seems super uncommon for them, even at that time lol
No thats very very common for Taurus but Im sure you're just the exception to the rule
Love the MW 2019 thumbnail lmao
The gubmint never lies😂
Yup I was there also 1990-1991 I remember the scuds flying over putting on mop suits that lasted like 2 nights then screw them mop suits and we laughed at them scuds. Semipermanent Fi
Best thumbnail yet 😂
What's the old saying, "Close is only good in horseshoes and nukes?"
That hot Coke killed a few soldiers
Things weren’t much different in 98. As a 2531 I thought I was hot shit with a PRC-117F.
Small enough to fit into a gun, so yes, a little.
Is he talking about Desert Storm 90’/91’
Yes
"Theyvwere gonna nuke 'em a little bit" - lol
Marines were still wearing woodland greens with zero PPE in 1990. I'm surprised they even had ammo.
Woodland camo was used into the 2000’s
My dad worked in the legal team at centcom under General Schwarzkopf and he was telling me that the general was putting in requests to Nuke Iraq obviously they kept denying that one lol
Gives new meaning to fuck around and find out 👍😂😽
Yeah it was hot as shit, a gallon of water a day, and yanking chains of the gear to get it ready. Then the planes and MMF's started arriving. We stacked the habit trails and started building arming revetments, and bombs peripheral to doing our regular plane fixing jobs until the shooting started. We had bunkers wallpapered with plastic bags because of the NBC threat. Then the planes started hauling ordnance and we were busy with 3 overlapping 12 hour shifts to keep them flying.
We did not see any nukes where I was at since we were on a joint base, but all our planes were carrier capable, and a lot of us had nuclear certificates because we could deploy on carriers. The carriers had to have been carrying nukes, just in case. All the scuds around us were conventional explosive types.
Shawn a damn fool for using that cod thumbnail😂😂😂
I remember those AT4s shooting 9mm tracer rounds
“We like to dabble in a little light nuclear warfare”
The "like" counter at the moment it changes shows 234 likes. When it stops changing it shows 23 likes.🤔
His honesty is fucking amazing!
Where's Kuwait? You gotta be kiddin me man...
E3 Mafia... buying shit you can't afford just to break it.
Just watched jarhead the day before seeing this, helps a lot in terms of what these guys were doing when they got there and what it was like
They did use Chemical warfare!
It's weird seeing how old the soldiers are from back then 😂 i feel old
Just a lil face melting nuke🫠
One of the reasons DEGRU is my fav. The button must be stopped at a Nuke facility?. Likey not making it back out. "We go".
It was wild how they all took the UBL mission knowing the house would likely be rigged to blow up. And they just went anyway. Legends.
Ahhh the Old Corps. 😂
The thumbnail 😂
A Fvcking Taurus! LMFAO
“Just a lil nuke”
Tactical nuke comment is at 10:33 and its not what you think
This guy sounds like he's FOS.
hahahaha.. just nuke em a little bit.. best line ever
This was the most boring story I’ve ever listened to. 10 minutes and 30 seconds that had nothing to do with using a nuke. That little comment at the end is it? The title of this video should be changed to “old marine fart talks about having a boring time in Kuwait”
Great interview
That was anti-climatic.
Come on man! This guy was an E3 and you think he knew anything about the use of nuclear weapons I have some land for sale on the moon 😂
Brah wtf W thumbnail🤣🤣🤣
Dude this was supposed to be nuke related wtf happened
It was talked about towards the end of the video.
This guy just did to Taurus what Glengarry Glen Ross did to Hyundai.
Pretty sure i almost broke my finger i clicked on this video so damn fast.
LMAO the thumbnail is what got me to click