KARMINE CORP MISS MAIN EVENT | G2 ON TOP AGAIN | The QUICK CHAT
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0:00 Karmine Corp Miss Major (Rizzo, Johnnyboi reaction)
13:29 Top 8 Matches Recap
20:33 Cloud 9 vs G2
24:11 Major Chances?
28:30 SSG vs OG
33:00 Grand Finals G2 vs SSG
36:00 Questions in Voice Chat from Chat 
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KC lost TWICE to two teams that are MAYBE top 16. They didn't deserve to make it this bracket.
I don't care how scuffed you want to argue this setup is, as a top 3-4 team they should NOT be dropping two entire series to anyone realistically.
suhh n top cougars aint bad but as what many people consider the best team in eu should NOT be dropping series to these teams and if you cant beat maybe top 16 teams you dont deserve to ake it this is fax
@@p1zza108. 100% agree. They're definitely good teams, but not KC level teams. I'm glad Kep said it also because people shit on the Swiss brackets and now everyone wants it back. If KC lost 1 more series in Swiss, they'd say the same shit. End of the day teams like KC CANNOT be dropping 2 series like this.
@@subparpt yea
Hearing how toxic Vatira can be (maybe his teammates are as well idk), he probably tilted himself trolling the opponents and when the possibility of losing got real, they panicked and crumbled. It's like that opponent that What a Saves you with a 3 goal lead but then chalks it in the last minute.
@@warlock_r thats def something that couldve happened, theres no way that they were hard trying the whole time and just couldnt do it
As for your take of “what if this happened for G2?” I think people would still react the same. I can’t remember Johnny’s exact reaction when SR missed event 2 last split, but it seemed like most people with a level head realized it wasn’t great for the scene if a team who made top 4 in the first regional was nowhere to be seen once broadcasts for the second regional start
This DID happen to G2 - sorta. Last year, when V1 missed spring major because of a poor third regional, Johnny essentially made the case (and continued to make it throughout the offseason) that Daniel and Beastmode were overrated because they "hadn't been to a LAN in [x] months". He didn't just stop at "they deserved to not make major" (like he did with KC), he had no issues insulting their ability. Which is expected from Johnny when it comes to NA, but should absolutely be noted.
It’s different since SR had ran into i believe TSM who has made top 4 in NA. From my knowledge neither top cougars or suhhh have made top 4 as well as the fact that SR haven’t ever won a regional while KC won 2-3??
I agree I dont like this set up for the format. But I think that KC has to take almost all of the fault for just pure choking
@@TheSethOlson i have definitely shifted my thinking as well, teams definitely are responsible for their own losses, but the format isn't fun for the fans and that should take precedent to some degree. I think the wasted first day doesn't help these teams if anything its the reason they struggle. closed quals of top 128 is needed
@@TheSethOlson KC won 3 and 1 was a reverse sweep against BDS. They really wee invincible. I really want to see them in LANdon 3.0 so I hope they win OQ6
@@edgeribble yeah. KC had zero excuse for this joke job
Karmine Corp can’t beat two teams who aren’t even top ten… why should they be rewarded for anything lol
So true
Its 9 months ruined for 2 hours of bad performance
@@OskarSvanthey shouldn’t be having a bad performance. They got first place in the first 3 regionals, third place at the major and fifth in the 4th regional, losing to a solid oxygen who just got joyo and he popped off the series. There is no excuses for Kcorp.
@@PhaZeUnleashedit's not excuses retard. it's the fact that one day has more weight than an entire dominant first split. I stg yall just be saying retarded shit with your chest. does the NFL kill play off hopes by having it set up to where losing 2 games in a row after the halfway point of the season starts means you're no longer eligible to play in the playoffs unless you win every single game after that?
@@PhaZeUnleashed you dont get it tho bro remember when g2 lost to old oxygen in their tourney before the season? yea theres more on the line in rlcs so its on KC for the loss but losses happen. realistically would kc even be scrimming suhh and TG?
11:37 This is how I think the format should be slightly altered: The top 8 teams from the previous regional event should qualify automatically for the next regional event. The other 8 teams still have to go through open qual. So in this case the top 8 from EU regional 4 qualify for EU regional 5.
1. New teams still have a chance to get in (and they won't come up against giants like G2 in open qual)
2. But also the teams who perform well (who are usually the massive orgs with the best players) are also rewarded for their PERFORMANCE.
I think this is the best of both worlds. The only potential negative outcome of this might be one less huge upset every few months like we just saw with KC. But those upsets could still happen anyway as there would still be 8 open qual spots. I'd also argue that having KC in the regionals, based on merit like I'm suggesting, is better for RLCS than what we've got now.
48:45 the best moment of the video 🤣
He didn't have a question , he had a statement 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Legendary caller.
It would be cool if top 8 get auto qualified for ONLY the next regional. But you have to get top 8 again to get the spot for the next regional. i.e. LG make top 8 regional 1, auto qual to regional 2. But they do not get top 8 in regional 2 by losing in swiss. Then they have to do open quals again. That to me seems fair for more consistent top 8 teams to stay and have some stability for orgs.
aint that how it was last year? top 8 made the next regional until they fell out in swiss where they played the open qual
@@regansimpson3196 think it was top 8 made all 3 main events
@@omster_2070 no it was top 8 after any given event auto qualified for the next one.
yall remember when v1 didnt make major and worlds and the french was shit talking star boy daniel. bro we need to get on vatiras ASS i cant lie
bro you still cant compare Daniel to Vatira, the difference in level and trophies is crazy
@@ChinChin-jw8pdyeah daniel in current form is better lad can’t lie
@@Corbanvastor better for sure, needs to achieve smth with that form tho when he versus EU
@@0xmoo I mean Daniel and g2 beat bds and vitality what else do you want from him
@@Corbanvastorto beat m8
you could have a scaling auto-qual as a compromise. after OQ1 you get 2 autoqual, OQ2 you get 4, etc, after the major 1 you'd have 8 for the rest of the season
I like this idea
no the best is to just have top 8 from each event auto qual. if you make top 8 your ensured the next top 16 if you miss top 8 its back to the open qual. That way if you do well in a regional you get some sort of lock. getting top 8 in my opinion deserves an auto qual.
Me personnaly for the streets wont forget is Alot. I just remember he had the craziest angles and wild shots that most pros woulda never gone for
What if they did double elim up to top 32, and then did a Swiss to qualify the top 16 to the next weekend?
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Yo Kep, been wachting you for a while now, ever considered uploading the audio as a podcast on Spotify? I woud listen that for sure during hikes, in the car, or while working out...
From a competitive perspective, yeah KC has to beat the teams in front of them. From the perspective of someone who wants to see the esport do well, there has to be some kind of auto-qual for top 8 or something. We absolutely should not be surprised when orgs like SR, KC, Moist, NRG, C9 drop their teams because they aren’t getting the kind of visibility they need to make the team financially feasible.
Can always count on Mr Kep to spoil the events
karmine corp was ranked the number one team in the world by a certain somebody, they shouldnt ever be losing to teams not in the top 16 idc
Johnny was right when he said that. If they get to LANdon 3.0 they might win the whole thing. Still cheering for Falcons tho because the twins are insane
11:04 I think I have a good idea for quals. First regional is open qual like the one we have now. Then top 16 teams play in a swiss. All the other teams play open quals like now. The top 8 of that swiss are 1-8 seedfor the regional. Then 9-16 from swiss play another swiss with the top 8 teams from open quals. And this goes on for all the regionals. I do understand that it would be very long and tiring but in my opinion it would be the most fair and we would see only the teams that truly deserve to be there
It's not my attempt to back KC even though I do like the team a lot. It's more of an attempt to have the most fair system but still give every team a chance each regional
i was selling 😂😂😂
Kep if you had to put together a third NA team to compete for worlds what would it be? My take is Justin, LJ, Aqua (they have been the best from my viewpoint)
Considering Justin and aqua aren’t top 10 in NA then this is a bad time
@@Corbanvastor Justin imo has a case to be made he has looked very good recently and regardless of end result, he did lead NA in goals scored in open qual 4. JSTN might be returning to form and games 3 and 4 against G2 against the worlds best shows me that JSTN still has it. he might have a case for top 10 in NA. or at least top 15.
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Okay yeah, kcorp probably shouldn’t of been the ones to draw cougars but at the same time why is KC losing to cougars? That’s like if g2 lost to moist or net and you guys tell me if that’s happening any time soon. And no, it’s not because of EU depth 😭
Ngl they do have more depth than NA rn
its a little bit of a double negative scenario. the format is awful but at the same time KC still should have won both hold the blame.
@@0xmoo potentially. We are finally seeing ssg break out and cloud 9 looked good and rebellion has been showing better form recently. KC missing top 16 with the roster they have is definitely not indicative of depth. We'll see. Probs just a fluke, but the tide in NA may be shifting.
@@0xmoo however with how many teams make worlds, we aren't going to get to see those up and comers anytime soon. This format is so bad on so many levels.
@@0xmoo yes, they do. But top cougars still shouldn’t be beating KC
Chicago is talking about how bad the situation for LG is and then says for Vitality is even worse? At 02:50, huh? Can somebody explain
How is Vitality worse? Vitality is winning games and the team is at top 4. What is he talking about?
@@ExtremeMakerX exactly, maybe he meant so say Karmine korp?
@@szilardsarkany6236 Probably
the problem is that kc is playing top cougars in the lower bracket while jorj is playing daystar. the lower bracket should be structured so that the team with the most points in the lower bracket is playing the team with the least points.since kc had the most season points in the lower bracket, they should have been playing the team with the least points. there is absolutely NO REASON that kc should be playing such a quality team with their season on the line. those teams are BOTH top 16 teams in points, so they should not be playing each other to make top 16. simple as that. awful, awful, awful format
Or just don’t lose twice to teams not even top 10 in the region…
Or maybe a top 4 team in the world just don't lose to a top 16 team in EU twice...
if you don't see the problem with a two top 16 teams playing each other to make top 16, while there are multiple nobody teams playing each other to make top 16, then you're just brainless. i dont even like kc. i just want to watch good rocket league
@@noobasphalt9270 you're right. there is nothing wrong with two top 16 teams playing each other to make top 16 while two nobodies play each other to make top 16. nothing wrong with that. the format is perfect. im convinced by your ingenious argument. you probably also liked epic's decision to remove trading. epic is always right!
@@henrytizard6517 if TC wouldn’t have lost to a nobody then KC wouldn’t have had to play them. If multiple good teams lose obviously they’ll have a chance to play each other. Also TC and suh aren’t even that good you’re acting like KC had to play vitality then gentle mates lmao
Heyy that’s me!!
Shut up
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In all fairness KCorp played two very talented prodigy teams, so I can't blame them.
The only blame for KC not being represented is KC and the players on the pitch.
this seasons format kinda sucks its more volatile but its also just chalked for teams so much earlier
Only the players think that they should get special spots. Everyone gets an equal opportunity this way, no if butts about it.
it is an equal opportunity as in all teams get the same chances. However, this format is far from good. it is a terrible system. these teams have to play wasted matchups. if you play bad teams your play will suffer as a result. Those day 1 matchups need to go away. At the end of the day there needs to be consistency at the top so that fandoms can develop throughout the season. yes the up and comers and etc. should get their shot, but they shouldn't get that shot this many times. No matter what, a top team or a good team is going to lost because of a bad weekend or a bad day. Yes its on them to win, but its really kind of ridiculous to consistently have these massive tournaments every week. There needs to be a closed qualifier system after the first open qual of each split so that the players don't get exhausted. And people need to remember that orgs are the reason esports teams stay alive out there. Without a way to get consistent income, esports players can't make consistent money, when that happens the esport dies because without those orgs money stops flowing and the esports overseers can't make money on the esport and thus end it.
2nd too
Look, if you cant beat 2 teams that are top 16 worthy, then you dont deserve to play in the regional. Simple as that.
you shouldn't be playing 2 teams that are top 16. granted KC has no one to blame but themselves for losing, but the format isn't good and isn't conducive for good competition on so many levels.
I think that if you can’t get wins against teams that are not even top 10 consistently then *you do not deserve to play in the regional by any chance no matter how big your fan following is*
You just have to play good
No hate to KC
the problem is that most of these losses are flukes. and at the end of the day the best teams are left watching at home despite the fact that this is the first time KC has not gotten top 8 in a regional let alone make swiss. yes KC has no one to blame but themselves for losing, but at the end of the day the format isn't good and isn't conducive to a fun experience for the fans nor the best teams actually making main events, the whole point of a main event is that the best teams are there. Regardless of what happened Sunday, a top 8 EU team isn't going to be there. that's not a good thing. On top of that, the teams KC lost to aren't even that bad Suhhh has now beaten KC and Vitality in the double elim bracket (I think). Cougars have made multiple swisses. the format just isn't fun for the fans and it doesnt produce the best results. tbh league play is where it needs to be at because the only way to ensure a fair matchup of teams is to have the teams all play each other. tbh I think each main event should consist of all the top 16 teams playing each other 4 series a day ending in a top 8 bracket of either single elim or double elim
@@kickstart3974 yeah I also don’t like the current format
The previous one before off season was better where some teams were auto invited based on there performance in the last regional and the rest can join through open qualifiers giving everyone a fair chance.
Yeah I also raised this objection in kep’s reaction video where oxygen beat kc that even though I am not from Europe but I think that their major spots should be increased as many deserving teams are not making the major Europe is better right now then any other region
No hate to other regions
They lost two out of three games on day 3, they don't belong in the mainevent, that is why I support this format because it doesn't give a free pass to anyone. If you aren't on your game, you could go home no matter how good you are.
I agree tho format is bad but KC have no excuse
Alphneck
Jonnnyboi crying about it is so funny haha, his ego is too big
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People think vatira is the best in the world but can beat these C tier teams?
these are hardly C tier teams. not even defending KCorp. But the format is bad and any team that is good enough to make a main event is not a c tier team especially not Suhhh who has made a top 8 and has beaten vitality and KCorp.
Johnnyboi is right you can criticize Kcorp for having a bad performance, but the format makes the loses worse because they don’t have a third set of regionals to bounce back. Also in the old format they wouldn’t have needed to go through the open bracket, taking a lot of pressure off of their shoulders.
No he isn’t. They aren’t the only team that has to go through this format though. Everyone has the same set of circumstances and KC couldn’t perform. Entirely on them and not the format
@@quackers584 it can be both. the format isn't conducive to the best teams winning because regardless of what you say KCorp is a top 8 team in EU yes they had one bad day, but I mean they had some tough opponents in double elim and on top of that, the format isn't good. Yes KCorp have themselves to blame for their own performance, but regardless of that the format isn't good.
rise played like a plat today tbh but regardless kc should be winning at least one of them series but then on the other hand you can make a point for the format being ass becuase how can a team win 3 regionals in a row and are the number 1 seed but yet they still have to qualify just to play in the regionals
KC is not a top 4 team. No team with rise is a top 4 team.
You dont even know what you are talking about. Whats rise got to do with anything? hes an insane player.
@@_Lute_121 clearly rage bait bro
@@reino1234wtf rise is insane
@@reino1234 Oops i wrote that as soon as i woke up didnt realise till now
you’re chatting some bs but tbh rise played like a plat today 😂