Economic wonder???? 90% of the people live in poverty! 50% of the people go to other countries to work! What F'ing wonder? For foreign companies maybe, but not for Estonians!
I remember the day when Estonia declared its independence. I was abroad and heard the news from a bus driver. I translated to other Finns. There were spontaneous applause, hurrahs and quite a lot of tears. Our little brother free at last!
@@neboyshanicolich761your cries are music to the ears of Baltic people and your tears more delicious than any drink in the world! Cry some more vatnik!
I've read that Estonia and Finland had roughly the same standard of living. Had it not been for decades of communist rule, Estonia would've had the same degree of prosperity as the Nordic nations.
Starting out poor after ww2, Finland caught up with other Nordic countries by the 80s. Soviet Estonia was waaaay behind. 30 years later, Estonia is on its way up, while Finland is in steep decline. They are still not equal, but getting there. Finland has been led by self-destrictive, xenophile socialist policies and now a puppet of Brussels. I wish all the best to our baby brother, but Finland is screwed.
@@trikyy7238 the provocative language is already a red flag for being just disinformation (intentional false information). I will be happy to hear your justifications for these claims as a Finn willing to do reasonable discourse, though I doubt you are nothing more than a bot
That is absolutely true, as generally Estonia and Finalnd were both more autonomous regions within Russia which had more trade connections with the west through the Baltic than the Russian interior, together with having having shared a history under the Swedish Emprie as well (though Estonia changed hands and had institutions founded by Teutons/Danes more while Finland's state institutions were founded by Sweden following its conquest during the Northern Crusades. Estonia was doomed by its geography compared to Finland, as it was surrounded on all sides by the Soviets after the fall of Latvia, where as Finland only had one border of much more difficult terrain with Russia, allowing for survival instead of defeat.
Visited Tallinn early this year and what i saw of Estonia is a modern, advanced western democratic country where people can enjoy life in peace and prosperity. I saw no vestige of soviet times in their daily life, save for what can be told by the history books. Estonia has not forgotten their past but it is not obsessed and fully defined by it, its a country of the future. I loved Estonia. Greetings and love from Portugal.
@@phuttyyt ... nobody needs to go to the depressing sovietic neighborhoods of Mustamäe and lasnamäe - there is a beautiful pearl called Old Town to see and its a world marvel !...
The smartest thing that Latvia and Estonia are doing now is to require all children in public schools to be educated in the national languages. In time, that will cause them to become more fully part of the societies of these countries.
@@Erik_40 Young people in the next generation will all be Estonian who speak Estonian, and it won't matter if their families were originally local to Estonia or came from Russia.
It really should. Whenever I've needed to "digitally sign" documents in the UK or The Netherlands (I've lived in both) and it's just been literally a scribble shaped like my pen-and-paper signature on the bottom of a .pdf file I've been kinda shocked! Cos what's the point of doing that when the Estonian government has developed a secure encrypted way of signing legally binding documents digitally using either your ID card or Mobile-ID? The .pdf scribble can be faked by literally anyone whereas the Estonian digital signature is even more secure than its paper counterpart.
Note how they got this benefit but Belarus/Ukraine/Russia/Georgia/Armenia didn’t. It’s very much a propaganda/geopolitical move to isolate Russia from warm water ports in the Baltic/Black Sea and trade with continental Europe more broadly. The countries of the Western Bloc are merely colonial pawns of the US/UK/France super-alliance.
Estonia seems to have a slight increase in population but thanks to immigration policies, native Estonians continue to decrease and its economy depends on 70% of what the EU donates...it also benefits from the infrastructure inherited from the USSR 😂
@@sagitario7731Lmao looks like somebody has been relying on pootlerite sources a little too eagerly. 70% of economy dependent on EU donations? What does that even mean? Sources: Pervyi kanal of the pootie horde, right? Never rely on russian msm or social media sources unless you like being an idiot, demonstrably.
It's just too funny to read Russian comments in here saying something along the lines of 'no no no, you aren't doing better, you were better off under Soviets' etc:) It's like getting immersed in an Orwellian parallel:)
@uzstiklo7141 Isn't it strange, for 50 years the Russians financed the Baltic countries!!?? After 50 years of financing, the economy of the Baltic countries was 30 years behind... negative economic development?
I remember when this happened, my Czech 🇨🇿 grandparents and great-grandparents cheered, cried, and were so happy for people, Estonia 🇪🇪 ❤️. Finally, freedom for this beautiful country ❤️
Occupation ending was the best thing in my childhood. I still sometimes share a tear when I happen to see something related to singing revolution or baltic way 🥹
Proud of Estonia! Let them start to develop their nuclear industry. It would be crazy when tiny Estonia invades Russia and win the war. This is because they can. To develop their 50 million robot AI military can turn into submarines, jet, or even a Ballistic missile.
For example, next to Estonia is Ingerimaa. Now known as Leningrad Oblast, Russia. Before 1917, the majority of the inhabitants there were Ingerians (Finnish-Ugric). Mass destruction of Lutheran churches and cemeteries began. Schools were changed to Russian language. Killings, deportations ... Already in the 1980s, there were no Ingerians left in that area. The nation had disappeared from its land
@@Chaldon-hl6yk I highly doubt that killing and deporting Russians will help them become Finno-Ugric. When already closing Russian schools, they call it genocide
@@Chaldon-hl6yk What is the difference between Russians and Finno-Ugrians, Russians have a tradition of destroying churches and cemeteries for centuries
Great video, my friend! I think how the Baltics address the issue of ethnic Russian citizens (or non-citizens as they are known in Latvia) is really critical.
There is also difference between the Baltic states owing to their different demographics. Lithuania got very light on Russian migration owing to not sharing a border with Russia proper besides Kaliningrad, where as Estonia and Latvia were ones to share the border, due to which the question of Russian integration is more accurately an Estonian and Latian issue.
@@KohaAlbertespecially their prime minister Kallas, whose husband is still doing business with russians, while she is screaming to ban every russian. Like we say in Russia: comrade Kallas didn't know anything, her marriage was filled with enemies
Tallinn old TOWNS (technically they are two, the tourist guides will explain why) are gorgeaus. It is a very beautiful city. And the food there is good too.
@@mihkelottteuli4091 what is today's Tallinn's old yown is in fact two cities which were very different from one another abd even rivals. The upper city was governed by the noblemen while the lower city was founded and governed by the merchants. The bad blood between the two got do bad that each build their own set of walls. There's a street in Old Tallinn where each side has a big wall opposing each other. The tourist guide had a lot of fun telling this story and we also had a bit of a laugh hearing it. Today since most of the old walls were demolished the two old towns are seemless.
Russians you feel unhappy living in Estonia can always move back to russia, putin needs more able bodies for his cannon fodder army. If that is not appedling then you better integrate into estonian fociety and become estonia, language included. Seriously, the hypocrisy of the average russian immigrant annoys me to no end: they love the perks of living in the west yet follow putin fanatically. They better be made to make a choice: civilization or putin. You cant have both.
On September 10, 1721, the Northern Russian-Swedish War ended with the signing of the Treaty of Nishtad, as a result of which Peter the Great bought Livonia and Estonia (modern Latvia and Estonia) from the Swedish kingdom.
@@Chaldon-hl6yk In the War of Independence 1918-1920 Estonia defeated Russia and Russia recognised Estonia's independence for an eternal time forever de jure, voluntarily and forever withdrawing from all sovereign rights that Russia had had for the people and land of Estonia. See Article 2 of the Tartu Peace Treaty: "In consequence of the right of all peoples to self-determination, to the point of seceding completely from the State of which they form part, a right proclaimed by the Socialist and Federal Russian Republic of the Soviets, Russia unreservedly recognises the independence and sovereignty of the State of Estonia, and renounces voluntarily and for ever all sovereign rights possessed by Russia over the Estonian people and territory whether these rights be based on the juridical position that formerly existed in public law, or in the international treaties which, in the sense here indicated, lose their validity in future. From the fact that Estonia has belonged to Russia, no obligation whatsoever will fall on the Estonian people and land to Russia."
What I don't get is why so many Russians outside of Russia, who have clear benefits of living outside of Russia, are such fans of the Russian government. There is a difference between Russian culture and Russian government, you don't have to be proud of both to be proud of your Russian heritage and culture. When looking at living standards, ethnic Russians living in the EU are in a much better position than those in Russia. When looking at average net salaries (after taxes) in Europe, Russia's is €523! It's insanely low. While the Baltic countries net salaries are €1117 in Latvia, €1241 in Lithuania and €1577 in Estonia. Russian governance is nothing to look up to, it creates misery and hardship for no reason. I live in Denmark, and in contrast to Russia's €523 net monthly salary, I'm given a net €770 monthly government stipend simply for taking a higher education now. I'm allowed to earn €2471/month from student jobs before the stipend is reduced, so that is around €2330/month after taxes you can make in Denmark while studying while still receiving the stipend. That amount of money isn't even considered unreasonable or excessive here for a student to be earning. Now look at Russia again - WHY on Earth would you want what they have when it comes to government?
Thank you for the very informative video. The events at 4:20 show cleary how much the Estonian people suffered under Russian (Soviet) occupation. A human chain, described at 5:25, was a fantastic idea. Respect!
In 1721 Nystadt treaty Seeeden sold Estonia, Karelia, Livonia to Russia. In 1242 Danish and German Livonian Knights Order had a battle with Russians ( pihkva, novgorod). We have had concentration camps, and have been sanctioned from both sides. Europe is the most violent continent in terms of history that is available.
They say, support the country you live in, or live in the country you support. My grandparents would be very happy to see these items removed from Narva.
I feel the music could have continued a little muted in the background during the little old tv explanation clip instead of fully stopping. Also I am sad there were no eyes in the sky :( Besides that, excellent video with a beautiful thumbnail
Had the privilege to visit Tallin met a family that have very successful restaurant in the old city next to the restaurant asked him if the Church was Russian orthodox he told me yes and he wished they take it back to Russia asked him if there a was a large Russian population which worried him I expressed new world situations are benefiting Estonian security as the Integration of Sweden and Finland into NATO and unexpectedly the Ukrainian war has United NATO and is strengthening the militarily of all members of the alliance I feel The Russians are not suicidal besides kremlin will have enough problems with it’s Frenemie China which is eyeing Russian oil reserves in the Arctic
@@СергейГражданский Do you want a war with NATO? Because that's how you get a war with NATO. It's not just a worthless scrap of toilet paper like the CSTO. We will all die before allowing Russia to take it by force.
The first time visiting Tallinn in June. A nice country is going to get better economic - Cause Before Freedom - I had seen A documentation short time from these 3 countires. So I could see that many buildings in Old Town - beutiful but in ruin status. Then I have follow These 3 Baltic countries so I see how all buildings have been renovated and beutiful more and more. Therefore I began to explore LATVIA - RIGA first in 2015 then 3 times across Baltic Sea. This Summer I have opportunity with 3 friends from Bangkok visited me. So we visited all 3 countries together. I think people is kind and freindly to us. Good Food, easy to stay for some days. Amazing. I will explore more in Lithuania next summer. THANK YOU FOR SHARING! BEST WISHES FROM STOCKHOLM - SWEDEN
I, as a Finno-Ugric political refugee, fled from Russia to Estonia even before the war, and I believe that local Russians who arrived during the Soviet occupation SHOULD be repatriated to Russia, because they are here "illegally" + they are not loyal to the Estonian state. The vast majority of them are future collaborators, as well as Russian (neo-Soviet) chauvinists full of complexes and resentment due to the fact that their cringe empire collapsed and lost the cold war. The repatriation of Russians home to Russia is a matter of national security for all of Russia's neighbors!
hmm, there is something suspicious about you, my friend how do i know you didn't catch a communist virus while living in russia and isn't just pretending to be loyal? so ye, probably estonians should send you back to russia
@@anvold5152He is a political refugee who had to escape from Russia and you are a colonizer who cries for Russian invasion of Baltics. Perhaps lesrn to love your own country and not the shit next to it.
Ivangorod is a former microdistrict of the city of Narva. The border passed through the city, cutting off city communications.Privatizing Russians is a bad idea. Narva lives on small tourism and subsidies from the EU.
Very good approach from Estonia! if these rusja people love their country so much, its right over the river it seems, there are many monuments not that far or go visit the history museum! If you are living in the country try to integrate! Theres several ways to integrate into the host country. Look what rusja do to Ukraine. No thank you, no more of rusja mir. Thank you to your work and reflection of these topics.
Nope, we don't want to integrate in that Neo-Nazi country. We live in our land and talk on our language (Estonia was a part of Russa Empire and USSR). Estonian government should respect that. If not, we will fight for our rights and will always support Russia that always supported us.
@@anvold5152 Very good - More reason to kick you out to your Putin Russia! How has Russia supported you? What rights? You have same rights as me having in Russia. None! Learn history - Russia / SSSR occupied Estonia in past, now it's free again and decides it's future without Russian approval. That meaning "it was" doesn't mean it can run things "now"! From what date applies to you for legal owner of that land? It is Estonians ancient land that had been theirs for millenniums. Russia belonged to Mongols some centuries ago - by that they are rightful owners of that Russian land. What do you think about that? If you don't like how things turned out now, then borders are open for your Rus-Nazi. Putin would be happy having you back his mother Russia.
Well, if destroying and bankrupting their own industry (such as pulp factory, engine factory, metal works, farming industry) could be considered as "economic wonder"... Its rather "economic horror".
another Russian bot with no connections to reality. "bankroted their farming industry". Estonian farming industry produces 30 times more then in Soviet times.
@@СергейГражданскийmost companies set up under a command economy system aren’t viable within a free market system. The most effective solution, which allows for the creation of new, competitive firms and long term economic growth, is to allow the old structures to close, rather than continue to subsidise them. Has worked for the Baltics, Visegrad 4 etc.
I am a big fan of Estonia's 20% personal tax rate. It encourages productivity and working side hustles worth it if you want to. In Canada, but more specifically in Ontario we have a progressive tax system that if you reach a little over 100k you end up in the next bracket so working more is not worth it since its around 40% (federal + provincial tax rates) you lose 40 cents on every dollar you earn.
@jj70098 Yes, everything is taxed at the new tax bracket around 40%. So basically, every dollar you earn over 100k is taxed, so you lose 40 cents on the dollar, so OT or side hustles are not worth it since you end up in a higher tax bracket.
a "country" of 1.3 million with half of them old and the other half fleeing to western Europe... there are more fleas on a dog, how nice it is to hear talk of prosperity in such a small town
It was the most prosperous because it was highly developed and wealthy before the Soviets occupied it. Estonia, Latvia and Finland were very similar in terms of economic and social development in the 1930s, and now Finland is one of the most prosperous countries in the world. I wonder why.
@@JohnHenryEden2277 they were developed, but also Soviet Union invested billions of dollars in them (e.g. Tallinn sea port). 'Before Soviet occupation' - when? These countries came into existence thanks to communist revolution in Russia. Latvian rifleman were the strongest support of Communist regime, which would be no doubt overthrown without their support. After Mr. Bērziņš founded GULAG, isn't it unexpected that many of his compatriots were thrown to it some years later?
@@cinderellaandstepsisters Do you call those who name obvious facts Russian trolls? Is everyone who doesn't agree with this abnormal propaganda a troll?
I live in Estonia. I don't know many people earning 1.700 euros more like 1000 euros. Must admit it's super safe here not like America where I'm from. Cold for 8 to 9 months. Estonians don't really respect anybody from other countries but want to get treated good when traveling. People here don't believe in God. Problems with bullying. Most people are broke but act like they have money. Estonians think that they are so good in digital or computers but honestly they can't even find workers only from other countries. But Estonia is my second home & my kids like it here. Good food & good looking women here. Estonians are very tall & a good education system. Russian, Finland & Latvia are super close. It's not cheap to live here sometimes I don't know how people do it. That's enough. Regards ✊️
1700 Euros is the average as there are now a lot of very well payed jobs in Estonia. But a 1000 Euros salary will still sllow you a confortable life as prices in Estonia are equivalent to Poland and Portugal.
@@Chaldon-hl6ykFinland was an autonomous grand duchy of Russia's Empire of tsar 100 years with a lot of privileges. Before that era Finland was directly a part of Sweden for almost 700 years. Finland and Sweden were the same country.
@@RedbadvanRijn-ft3vv it's seems that you know nothing about Russian naval fleet. Old ships like aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov is not the main power of Russian fleet (it's from 1982, not from WW2, lol). The main power of of Russian naval fleet is modern atomic submarines, middle cruisers with Kalibr missiles, hypersonic ballistic missiles Kh-47M2 Kinzhal, HGV Avangard, 3M22 Zircon and autonomous nuclear-powered unmanned underwater vehicle Poseidon. I hope that NATO generals thinks like you, because if they decided attack Russia, they'll experience the greatest tragedy in NATO history.
But in "soviet ruin" life expectancy in Estonian SSR was even higher. 1700eur that estonians earn, they earn not in Estonia, but in countries like Germany. Estonia is depopulated.
Life expectancy in Estonia in 1975 was 69.35 years, while it's 79.18 years now. The average salary in the 2nd quarter of 2023 is 1873 Eur while it's 3975 Eur before tax in Germany. Why do you feel the need to lie exactly? You do realise anyone can check facts, don't you?
WW2 & Soviet Occupation depopulated Estonia... Without all of this BS, Estonia would have paralleled or even exceeded Finland in terms of per capita economy...
I feel like estionia is pursuing trchnological advancement, companies like microtik atarts to he recognisable while finnish nokia feels like its losing ground
In the Soviet Union, Estonia was one of the more developed republics and got significant subsidies at the cost of less privileged republics. In the EU, Estonia is again propped up by significant subsidies at the cost of less privileged states. I'm just not sure where the "Soviet Ruin" enters the equation. For example, Estonia's Tallinfilm made a significant number of well known movies.
It's funny when someone compares the USSR to the EU. Estonia was part of the planned economy of the USSR, so it was not subsidized. The Soviets invested in certain branches of Estonian industry so that, in accordance with the assumptions of the plan, this component would secure the demand of the rest of the country in certain areas, while EU subsidies are a kind of compensation for the fact that the Estonian economy has to compete with more developed EU economies on rights that favor the larger and wealthier , The EU is investing in areas that are to make Estonians have fairer conditions of competition.
USSR was also guided by the principles of pragmatism, at least to a limited extent, so it implemented some projects where there was a convenient environment to ensure the handling of these projects. Before the war, the Baltic States were better developed in terms of civilization than other regions of the USSR, so complex investment projects were located there, not in Tajikistan or Siberia. The Baltic countries had an appropriate intellectual base, so the positive effects of investments were visible to the naked eye, today it is similar, as you can see, they are much better at absorbing investment capital or competing for this capital with other post-Soviet republics.
Estonia didn't get more subsidies, all had equal amount, Estonia was just less corrupt. Even these days Estonia has one of the lowest corruption rates in the world, while other ex Soviet countries are highly corrupt. Corruption is what led to fall of USSR in the first pace.
@@kriskt4754 No, that's not true. Estonia did get more subsidies. These things are actually documented with charts, numbers and Soviet-made infographics about that. You can't just shrug it off. That of the official policy of "showcase of socialism".
Before the occupation at the end of 1930, the economies of Finland and the Baltic countries were on an equal level. After the occupation, 50 years later, the economy of the Baltic States was 30 years behind the economy of Finland
@@anvold5152 Of course not - По-русски это называется «дружба народов».😂 Well, for some reason the Russians call it genocide lately, ... the wet sleep of the little Russians 🤣🤣
@@anttiryssa oh, friendship is a good thing, right? So, I think you shouldn't demonizate Russia. I was in St. Petersburg and it one of the most beautiful and modern European cities. As I know Russians never called it genocide. I only know, that they recognized Blockade of Leningrad by German and Finland armies as genocide. And they have their reasons for it.
"Estonia become part of EU, to ensure it's independence" 😂😂😂😂 one of funniest things I heard today. BTW also fun fact that only couple hours before I watched a video about corruption in Estonian government. "Democratic reforms" Mean adopting policies forced by imf world Bank and EU. Independence right?
You're drastically overestimating the IMF and EU's intrusiveness. BTW, Estonia voted to join the EU (not invaded like the USSR), and has representatives in EU parliament. Finally, it's WAAAAAY better than living as a Russian puppet and dictatorship like Belarus!
The policy of issuing "grey passports" (13:00) and threatening with forced expulsion for failing a language test (16:00) is such a shame. No modern democratic society should allow that.
@@sognatore6199 How to classify those illiterate and "gray passport holders"? Google translate suggested me "type" Do you know why "gray passport holders" do not want to give up their passports?
People wanting to live in Europe should assimilate, learn the local language and costumes. Otherwise, off they go. Enough with tolerating intolerant cultures and religions.
@@anttiryssa It doesn't matter whether those people are literate or not. It doesn't matter whether they are ok with their inferior social status. A democratic society would never tolerate this kind of discrimination. Period. If you are into "classifying" people, then you'd better look for someone else's company to discuss this issue, since I don't really want to talk to you anymore.
@@bluejay7232 And the russonazis aren't? Ukrainians and Georgians (to an extent) at least make PROGRESS in rooting out corruption, while that third world shithole invading them doesn't even try. 😂😂😂
@@Pissa23 Qazaq (or the colonial variant Kazakh) is an ethnicity and language, seldom used for all citizens of the country, although I support that use. Qazaqistan (the name I prefer) or Qazaqstan (or the colonial variant Kazakhstan) is the country, add -i at the end and you get the common name for all citizens.
Russian estonians are not russians. They are estonians. They have mostly no connections left to russia, they have no idea how the Russia lives. All they have is their family language (russian) and Slavic names.
Estonia isn't actually doing as great as the video makes them out to be. 25% of the population is at risk of poverty, population declined by 20% since the dissolution and economic growth rate has been much slower since independence. Real term GDP is only double the level of 30 years.
@Toivo58479 25% poverty rate is alarmingly high for an allegedly prosperous and developed nation. Russian mass immigration is a part of why population plummeted but it isn't the only factor to it. Lots of ethnic Estonians left Estonia for abroad, birth rate plummeted while death rate skyrocketed, ethnic Russians were driven out by increasing Anti-Russian discrimination. The 28 fold increase is only nominal GDP. Not real term GDP. There was a fast gdp growth AFTER a severe economic collapse and despite the relatively fast growth, REAL TERM GDP is just double of the 1990 level after 30 years.
He's talking about earnings in the Euro but what about expenses ? Everybody in the West is fed-up of the rising cost of living like basic stuff like Food accommodation and fuel are no where comparable to other developing countries where still it's liveable situation..
This is what I hope for all the Finno Ugric tribes that are still slaves of Russia. They could flourish if they just would get the chance to be free. Like there was at some point even talks of Estonia becoming part of us but look how well they are doing by just believing in themselves instead of seeking cover under someone else. They are a prime example of what the darkness does to a country and what happens when light gets to shine on it once more.
Estonia’s “economic success” is paper thin and largely goes out the door to other EU nations because of the common market and freedom of movement. The reason digital companies set up shop in Estonia is that housing and office space are dirt cheap and people from actually technologically developed countries like Germany or Netherlands or France can move there with no barriers. America pays for all their defense as well, so they aren’t really independent. Native Estonians are still the dirt farmers they’ve always been but for the generosity of greater powers like the Soviet Union, and now Germany/France/USA.
Estonia seems to have a slight increase in population but thanks to immigration policies, native Estonians continue to decrease and its economy depends on 70% of what the EU donates...it also benefits from the infrastructure inherited from the USSR
@@kapsaline ok,we have a frustrated here...bro, accept it, nobody can stop Rus, captain america will not come and Rus will concontinue to expand.Come out of denial
@@tamolamo4698 😂Rus has existed for a thousand years. Sit and wait for it to disappear there, along with charles of sweden , napoleon, hitler and biden. Good luck billy bob
Nah, it's the opposite. it's the russian population in Estonia that is declining not native Estonians, Estonia is one of the few European countries that is not experienceing population decline, partly because of Ukranian immigration and partly because, unlike russians, Estonians are not that happy about living in panel housing ( which does reduce birthrates because, of a lack of free space to have many children ) and as such are moving out to bigger home areas in bigger numbers then, the russian population
One of the reasons Estonia is so prosperous is because for the last 20 years it has received billions of dollars in aid and loans from the European Union, also Russia and Belarus use Estonian ports for its exports injecting in the Estonian economy billions of Euros every year in transfer fees. Without any of that Estonia would not be that well off'
It still proves the point that it’s better to be together with the civilized west instead of the barbaric and in all ways inferior craphole, which is Russia
EU programs help no doubt, but the effect on GPD was estimated once to be around 0.2%. Further positive effect comes from benefits being in the EU zone. But, Estonia reached double GPD per capita of Russia by 2004, that is before any EU programs and benefits, and without the massive natural riches Russia has. As for ports, Russia stopped nearly all traffic through Estonia in 2007, after it had organized a rebellion among the ethnic Russians in Estonia. Private businesses have to toe the line with Putin, so the effect was country-wide.
It over now. In the first half of 2023 the cargo turnover of the Estonian sea ports fell down 29 %. In 2022 the decrease was another 15 %. Since 2011 the cargo turnover fell down 45 %.
A big part of the economic succes of the Baltic countries are linked with the proximity and access to the Russian market, without it their inflation and debt are rising very fast.
None of these theses is true, inflation has a constant downward trend, debt in relation to GDP is also falling, in nominal terms it is higher but in terms of proportions it is lower because state revenues are significantly higher. By the way, the Russian market compared to the EU market is microscopic and poor, even before the introduction of sanctions, Russia imported products from the EU with a value 2x lower than, for example Poland, which is not an economic giant. You repeat the fairy tales of Kremlin propagandists who tell fairy tales about how Russia brought the West to its knees.
18:38 that highspeed = first average speed 182km/h and second many get push sell they homes and trihd ticket at Tallinn to Riga get price on summer 2028 ca 70 euro ; to Warssav ca 190 euro = local estonian use no more then once that train.
15:20 You can see the naive western perspective in matters of Baltic states and Russia. Russian settlers who were placed in Baltic states during the years of Soviet occupation have always been hostile towards the natives and the independence of the Baltic states. Appeasement never works with an aggressor like the russians, only thing we must strive is for slow but sure, bloodless as possible decolonization.
Luckily for Estonia, Niger and other African nations still are suffering neo-colonialism from many warmonger NATO states such as France. France still tries to treat these African nations as its colonies. Hope that Estonia beg France to leave these African nations.
@ThienHoang-tr3dh Freedom for the people of Africa. We will do everything so that the people of Africa do not have to suffer, here in the bad NATO countries. You should explain to them more that it is not worth coming to a bad NATO country. Recommend them the African villages in Russia, you surely already know.
There is nothing of wonder. The real economic wonder is China. Estonia is an average Central European state which lives on donations from EU. One of the highest inflation rate in Europe-2022 was in Estonia - 17,6 %.
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Economic wonder???? 90% of the people live in poverty! 50% of the people go to other countries to work! What F'ing wonder? For foreign companies maybe, but not for Estonians!
Ivangrod avarage salary 20k rubl not 53k
I remember the day when Estonia declared its independence. I was abroad and heard the news from a bus driver. I translated to other Finns. There were spontaneous applause, hurrahs and quite a lot of tears. Our little brother free at last!
Considering what Stalin was like, tears are a perfectly understandable reaction to being free from Russia.
@@nathanseper8738They are not free.. but part of the Anglo-American Mafia Gangsters financial racket ..
Awesome 👌
And Mongolia is Your parent...and Ghengis Khan Your grandfather.
@@neboyshanicolich761your cries are music to the ears of Baltic people and your tears more delicious than any drink in the world! Cry some more vatnik!
Love to Estonia from Finland 🇫🇮🤝🇪🇪❤
I've read that Estonia and Finland had roughly the same standard of living. Had it not been for decades of communist rule, Estonia would've had the same degree of prosperity as the Nordic nations.
Teoreetiliselt jah
Starting out poor after ww2, Finland caught up with other Nordic countries by the 80s. Soviet Estonia was waaaay behind.
30 years later, Estonia is on its way up, while Finland is in steep decline. They are still not equal, but getting there. Finland has been led by self-destrictive, xenophile socialist policies and now a puppet of Brussels. I wish all the best to our baby brother, but Finland is screwed.
@@trikyy7238 Troll!
@@trikyy7238 the provocative language is already a red flag for being just disinformation (intentional false information). I will be happy to hear your justifications for these claims as a Finn willing to do reasonable discourse, though I doubt you are nothing more than a bot
That is absolutely true, as generally Estonia and Finalnd were both more autonomous regions within Russia which had more trade connections with the west through the Baltic than the Russian interior, together with having having shared a history under the Swedish Emprie as well (though Estonia changed hands and had institutions founded by Teutons/Danes more while Finland's state institutions were founded by Sweden following its conquest during the Northern Crusades.
Estonia was doomed by its geography compared to Finland, as it was surrounded on all sides by the Soviets after the fall of Latvia, where as Finland only had one border of much more difficult terrain with Russia, allowing for survival instead of defeat.
Visited Tallinn early this year and what i saw of Estonia is a modern, advanced western democratic country where people can enjoy life in peace and prosperity. I saw no vestige of soviet times in their daily life, save for what can be told by the history books. Estonia has not forgotten their past but it is not obsessed and fully defined by it, its a country of the future. I loved Estonia. Greetings and love from Portugal.
That's nice of you to say :) But you clearly didn't get out of the city centre :D
Estonia the Baltic Tiger -it is an excellent doc movie about Estonia in YuuTuube.
Duo Ruut makes there sound.
@@phuttyyt ... nobody needs to go to the depressing sovietic neighborhoods of Mustamäe and lasnamäe - there is a beautiful pearl called Old Town to see and its a world marvel !...
@@oldowleye3161 I know. I live here :)
Estonia ❤ Portugal
I have never heard of an instance where the Soviets/Russians improved a country or a people's standard of living.
@@nuthurdu159sounds like you’re brainwashed by Russian propaganda. Wherever Russians go, they bring poverty and hatred.
Eh id argue maybe in places like Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan. But now that the Soviets left the places are shitholes
Central Asia is a joke to you?
Primitive tribes of central Asia who live like middle ages benefits from soviet rule.
Cuba.
My adoptive home! ❤ As a foreigner (Portuguese) in Estonia, I must say I have great respect for the freedom achieved by Estonia peacefully!
muito bem, somos 2, embora eu nao more na Estonia...
Beautiful, prosperous Estonia! Best wishes from Sweden. 🇸🇪
The smartest thing that Latvia and Estonia are doing now is to require all children in public schools to be educated in the national languages. In time, that will cause them to become more fully part of the societies of these countries.
its smart, but ways they do it are 100% dumb.
Currently here in Estonia it's in progress and planned to finish by the end of 2024
@@Erik_40
Young people in the next generation will all be Estonian who speak Estonian, and it won't matter if their families were originally local to Estonia or came from Russia.
The digital integration of Estonia should be implemented on a European scale.
It really should. Whenever I've needed to "digitally sign" documents in the UK or The Netherlands (I've lived in both) and it's just been literally a scribble shaped like my pen-and-paper signature on the bottom of a .pdf file I've been kinda shocked! Cos what's the point of doing that when the Estonian government has developed a secure encrypted way of signing legally binding documents digitally using either your ID card or Mobile-ID? The .pdf scribble can be faked by literally anyone whereas the Estonian digital signature is even more secure than its paper counterpart.
it is...
Estonia is digitransforming countries glkobally
licensing x/road infrastructure
Observing Estonia today, so modern, prosperous and Western, one would never guess the country had once been a part of the USSR.
Well, Estonia was never actually “part of the USSR”, but merely occupied territory.
Yeah and Estonia will stay that way😊
Note how they got this benefit but Belarus/Ukraine/Russia/Georgia/Armenia didn’t.
It’s very much a propaganda/geopolitical move to isolate Russia from warm water ports in the Baltic/Black Sea and trade with continental Europe more broadly.
The countries of the Western Bloc are merely colonial pawns of the US/UK/France super-alliance.
@@rupsikas1950 Yawn 🥱
They're not western...they don't look western and they don't speak western language...plus their name is Estonia...whih literally means eastern land.
Baltics deserve just success after the tragic 20th century. Never Soviet/Russian misery again!
Estonia seems to have a slight increase in population but thanks to immigration policies, native Estonians continue to decrease and its economy depends on 70% of what the EU donates...it also benefits from the infrastructure inherited from the USSR 😂
@@sagitario7731 this is Russian propaganda bullshit 🤬💩🇷🇺
@@sagitario7731Lmao looks like somebody has been relying on pootlerite sources a little too eagerly.
70% of economy dependent on EU donations? What does that even mean? Sources: Pervyi kanal of the pootie horde, right? Never rely on russian msm or social media sources unless you like being an idiot, demonstrably.
@@sagitario7731 Haha, you just can't stand that they couldn't wait to see the back of the USSR, can you
@@sagitario7731
I saw Vasha in the hay in poor Russia.
Russians should shame there heads of,for living like that
It's just too funny to read Russian comments in here saying something along the lines of 'no no no, you aren't doing better, you were better off under Soviets' etc:) It's like getting immersed in an Orwellian parallel:)
@uzstiklo7141 Isn't it strange, for 50 years the Russians financed the Baltic countries!!?? After 50 years of financing, the economy of the Baltic countries was 30 years behind... negative economic development?
@@justus_x You see we'll never understand this peculiar type of logic:)
Because Russians watch only there Russia Today Disney channels.
@@justus_xAnd now they’re developed and Russia went back to the Soviet times.
@@justus_x Even financing them wasn't enough to beat Finland in per capita economy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That's how ridiculous Soviet-Russian occupation is...
From Poland I wish all the best for Estonian !!!!
❤❤❤
Cheers mate. 🇵🇱 👋
beautiful country with proud and smart people
I remember when this happened, my Czech 🇨🇿 grandparents and great-grandparents cheered, cried, and were so happy for people, Estonia 🇪🇪 ❤️. Finally, freedom for this beautiful country ❤️
Occupation ending was the best thing in my childhood. I still sometimes share a tear when I happen to see something related to singing revolution or baltic way 🥹
Proud of Estonia! Let them start to develop their nuclear industry. It would be crazy when tiny Estonia invades Russia and win the war. This is because they can. To develop their 50 million robot AI military can turn into submarines, jet, or even a Ballistic missile.
Leedu, Kaunase linn - tervitused õed ja vennad Eestist.!!!🇱🇹❤️Estonie
Outstanding presentation! Thank you!
Narva´s monthly wage is not 1700. Rather close to 1100 or something. Still, better than in Ivangorod though.
Depends if its bruto or neto
Narva's population is 60,000 while Novgorod's 10,000. The comparison is meaningless.
@chris1806 you know what average means yeah? As in per person.
@@__beer__ I know what average means. Do you know what a meaningless measure is ?
@@chris1806 Why is it meaningless? To me the meaning of the measure is clear: to show the average salary lol.
For example, next to Estonia is Ingerimaa. Now known as Leningrad Oblast, Russia. Before 1917, the majority of the inhabitants there were Ingerians (Finnish-Ugric). Mass destruction of Lutheran churches and cemeteries began. Schools were changed to Russian language. Killings, deportations ...
Already in the 1980s, there were no Ingerians left in that area. The nation had disappeared from its land
russians is also finnish ugric no problems
@@Chaldon-hl6yk Do the Russians know?
of course@@justus_x
@@Chaldon-hl6yk I highly doubt that killing and deporting Russians will help them become Finno-Ugric. When already closing Russian schools, they call it genocide
@@Chaldon-hl6yk What is the difference between Russians and Finno-Ugrians, Russians have a tradition of destroying churches and cemeteries for centuries
Great video, my friend! I think how the Baltics address the issue of ethnic Russian citizens (or non-citizens as they are known in Latvia) is really critical.
There is also difference between the Baltic states owing to their different demographics. Lithuania got very light on Russian migration owing to not sharing a border with Russia proper besides Kaliningrad, where as Estonia and Latvia were ones to share the border, due to which the question of Russian integration is more accurately an Estonian and Latian issue.
Yeah I really like the fact that they deport anyone preaching “Russian Mir”
@@TKUA11Estonia is and has been much notably softer on the issue.
@@KohaAlbertespecially their prime minister Kallas, whose husband is still doing business with russians, while she is screaming to ban every russian.
Like we say in Russia: comrade Kallas didn't know anything, her marriage was filled with enemies
Didn't Estonia reestablish independence in 1991, not declared?
Yes, indeed. It was independent between 1918 and 1940
yea you are correct
Yes
Heard amazing things about Talinns old town, gonna visit soon i hope :)) love from Lithuania
Tallinn old TOWNS (technically they are two, the tourist guides will explain why) are gorgeaus. It is a very beautiful city. And the food there is good too.
uh what do you mean there are 2? theres only one? where is the other one, one is in tallinn and the other?
@@carlossaraiva8213was replying to you btw
@@mihkelottteuli4091 what is today's Tallinn's old yown is in fact two cities which were very different from one another abd even rivals. The upper city was governed by the noblemen while the lower city was founded and governed by the merchants. The bad blood between the two got do bad that each build their own set of walls. There's a street in Old Tallinn where each side has a big wall opposing each other. The tourist guide had a lot of fun telling this story and we also had a bit of a laugh hearing it. Today since most of the old walls were demolished the two old towns are seemless.
nah, my grammar took an arrow to the knee just that @@mihkelottteuli4091
Russians you feel unhappy living in Estonia can always move back to russia, putin needs more able bodies for his cannon fodder army. If that is not appedling then you better integrate into estonian fociety and become estonia, language included.
Seriously, the hypocrisy of the average russian immigrant annoys me to no end: they love the perks of living in the west yet follow putin fanatically. They better be made to make a choice: civilization or putin. You cant have both.
Dude, you should know Yugoslavia wasn't a post Soviet country
On September 10, 1721, the Northern Russian-Swedish War ended with the signing of the Treaty of Nishtad, as a result of which Peter the Great bought Livonia and Estonia (modern Latvia and Estonia) from the Swedish kingdom.
NyStad New Town. Treaty ? Is in modern 🇫🇮 as Uusikaupunki/ Nystad❤
@@454FatJack that means - Baltic states must pay 50+ tonnes of silver for Russia
@@Chaldon-hl6yk In the War of Independence 1918-1920 Estonia defeated Russia and Russia recognised Estonia's independence for an eternal time forever de jure, voluntarily and forever withdrawing from all sovereign rights that Russia had had for the people and land of Estonia.
See Article 2 of the Tartu Peace Treaty:
"In consequence of the right of all peoples to self-determination, to the point of seceding completely from the State of which they form part, a right proclaimed by the Socialist and Federal Russian Republic of the Soviets, Russia unreservedly recognises the independence and sovereignty of the State of Estonia, and renounces voluntarily and for ever all sovereign rights possessed by Russia over the Estonian people and territory whether these rights be based on the juridical position that formerly existed in public law, or in the international treaties which, in the sense here indicated, lose their validity in future.
From the fact that Estonia has belonged to Russia, no obligation whatsoever will fall on the Estonian people and land to Russia."
I love Estonia 🇪🇪
Nice video about my Estonia. 🔥🔥🔥🔥😎😎💥💥
Such a beautiful country. I thoroughly enjoy visiting. Thank you for adding greater color to my knowledge of the country.
Latvia is doing the right thing about their russian squaters.
Gaining independence from the Russians was the best thing that ever happened to the Estonians... Same for other Ex-Soviet states.
What I don't get is why so many Russians outside of Russia, who have clear benefits of living outside of Russia, are such fans of the Russian government. There is a difference between Russian culture and Russian government, you don't have to be proud of both to be proud of your Russian heritage and culture.
When looking at living standards, ethnic Russians living in the EU are in a much better position than those in Russia. When looking at average net salaries (after taxes) in Europe, Russia's is €523! It's insanely low. While the Baltic countries net salaries are €1117 in Latvia, €1241 in Lithuania and €1577 in Estonia. Russian governance is nothing to look up to, it creates misery and hardship for no reason.
I live in Denmark, and in contrast to Russia's €523 net monthly salary, I'm given a net €770 monthly government stipend simply for taking a higher education now. I'm allowed to earn €2471/month from student jobs before the stipend is reduced, so that is around €2330/month after taxes you can make in Denmark while studying while still receiving the stipend. That amount of money isn't even considered unreasonable or excessive here for a student to be earning.
Now look at Russia again - WHY on Earth would you want what they have when it comes to government?
Russia is a product of its government.
Because russia and russians cannot be understood with common sense.
But but but…. Soviet Soviet Rus Rus and NATO bad 😭😭😭😭. 🥺🥺🥺🥺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺
Can't wait for the Lithuanian episode.
In fact,they had the Best living standards of the Soviet Bloc....
That isn't saying much.
Occupation is occupation.
So?
Очень крутое видео!
Estonia is a giant winter castle
😂
Estonia got it's independence in 1918 not in 1991
Correct, it's when we got our independence the first time and re-established our independence in 1991, truth be told kind of an easy mistake to make
Thank you for the very informative video.
The events at 4:20 show cleary how much the Estonian people suffered under Russian (Soviet) occupation.
A human chain, described at 5:25, was a fantastic idea. Respect!
In 1721 Nystadt treaty Seeeden sold Estonia, Karelia, Livonia to Russia. In 1242 Danish and German Livonian Knights Order had a battle with Russians ( pihkva, novgorod). We have had concentration camps, and have been sanctioned from both sides. Europe is the most violent continent in terms of history that is available.
Love from Bangladesh 🇧🇩 ❤🇪🇪
They say, support the country you live in, or live in the country you support. My grandparents would be very happy to see these items removed from Narva.
I feel the music could have continued a little muted in the background during the little old tv explanation clip instead of fully stopping.
Also I am sad there were no eyes in the sky :(
Besides that, excellent video with a beautiful thumbnail
Had the privilege to visit Tallin met a family that have very successful restaurant in the old city next to the restaurant asked him if the Church was Russian orthodox he told me yes and he wished they take it back to Russia asked him if there a was a large Russian population which worried him I expressed new world situations are benefiting Estonian security as the Integration of Sweden and Finland into NATO and unexpectedly the Ukrainian war has United NATO and is strengthening the militarily of all members of the alliance I feel The Russians are not suicidal besides kremlin will have enough problems with it’s Frenemie China which is eyeing Russian oil reserves in the Arctic
Time to de-russify the baltics as soon as possible
Nah, they will die out on their own
Not gonna happen. Dream on!
Re-russify.
@@СергейГражданский it is really funny indeed that both of those users have commented on same video with similar things.
Just funny
@@СергейГражданский Do you want a war with NATO? Because that's how you get a war with NATO. It's not just a worthless scrap of toilet paper like the CSTO. We will all die before allowing Russia to take it by force.
00:19 Ivangord is by Tartu rahu Tartu peace pact until Estonia and name is Jaanilinn. Also Petseri region is Estonia.
What a great video on Estonia! A true success story 👏
it is inedeed - its a true marvel
The first time visiting Tallinn in June. A nice country is going to get better economic - Cause Before Freedom - I had seen A documentation short time from these 3 countires. So I could see that many buildings in Old Town - beutiful but in ruin status. Then I have follow These 3 Baltic countries so I see how all buildings have been renovated and beutiful more and more. Therefore I began to explore LATVIA - RIGA first in 2015 then 3 times across Baltic Sea.
This Summer I have opportunity with 3 friends from Bangkok visited me. So we visited all 3 countries together. I think people is kind and freindly to us. Good Food, easy to stay for some days. Amazing. I will explore more in Lithuania next summer. THANK YOU FOR SHARING! BEST WISHES FROM STOCKHOLM - SWEDEN
I, as a Finno-Ugric political refugee, fled from Russia to Estonia even before the war, and I believe that
local Russians who arrived during the Soviet occupation SHOULD be repatriated to Russia, because they are
here "illegally" + they are not loyal to the Estonian state.
The vast majority of them are future collaborators, as well as Russian (neo-Soviet) chauvinists
full of complexes and resentment due to the fact that their cringe empire collapsed and
lost the cold war.
The repatriation of Russians home to Russia is a matter of national security for all of Russia's neighbors!
Yes it is! It should have happened when the Baltics gained independence - praying for the day when Russians will be repatriated to Russia for good!
I think that YOU should be repatriated to Russia instead for your own good. We don't need any advices from Russian collaborator.
hmm, there is something suspicious about you, my friend
how do i know you didn't catch a communist virus while living in russia and isn't just pretending to be loyal?
so ye, probably estonians should send you back to russia
@@anvold5152He is a political refugee who had to escape from Russia and you are a colonizer who cries for Russian invasion of Baltics. Perhaps lesrn to love your own country and not the shit next to it.
USSR the most brutal dictatorship. kinda explains why russia today is not much different
Russia is a democracy and no longer a socialist state.
@@amraceway That was a good one, made me chuckle for a feww minutes :D
Search about Baltics State in 1920s and 1930s , you gonna be shock
Same as Evil Soviet Regime and fascist sympathizer towards Germans
dont obey usa = dictatorship
you can change friends but can't change neighbours !!!
Speaking Russian does not make you Russian,any more than my being British and speaking English does not make me American!
Ivangorod is a former microdistrict of the city of Narva. The border passed through the city, cutting off city communications.Privatizing Russians is a bad idea. Narva lives on small tourism and subsidies from the EU.
Very good approach from Estonia! if these rusja people love their country so much, its right over the river it seems, there are many monuments not that far or go visit the history museum! If you are living in the country try to integrate! Theres several ways to integrate into the host country. Look what rusja do to Ukraine. No thank you, no more of rusja mir. Thank you to your work and reflection of these topics.
Nope, we don't want to integrate in that Neo-Nazi country. We live in our land and talk on our language (Estonia was a part of Russa Empire and USSR). Estonian government should respect that. If not, we will fight for our rights and will always support Russia that always supported us.
@@anvold5152Stfu and leave Estonia you invader.
@@anvold5152
Very good - More reason to kick you out to your Putin Russia!
How has Russia supported you?
What rights?
You have same rights as me having in Russia. None!
Learn history -
Russia / SSSR occupied Estonia in past, now it's free again and decides it's future without Russian approval. That meaning "it was" doesn't mean it can run things "now"!
From what date applies to you for legal owner of that land?
It is Estonians ancient land that had been theirs for millenniums.
Russia belonged to Mongols some centuries ago - by that they are rightful owners of that Russian land. What do you think about that?
If you don't like how things turned out now, then borders are open for your Rus-Nazi. Putin would be happy having you back his mother Russia.
Well, if destroying and bankrupting their own industry (such as pulp factory, engine factory, metal works, farming industry) could be considered as "economic wonder"...
Its rather "economic horror".
bankrupting their own industry ?? when ?
another Russian bot with no connections to reality. "bankroted their farming industry". Estonian farming industry produces 30 times more then in Soviet times.
@@anttiryssa In the 90s, after gaining independence.
@@СергейГражданскийmost companies set up under a command economy system aren’t viable within a free market system. The most effective solution, which allows for the creation of new, competitive firms and long term economic growth, is to allow the old structures to close, rather than continue to subsidise them. Has worked for the Baltics, Visegrad 4 etc.
@@СергейГражданский Occupants industry was bankrupt, to 90,
I am a big fan of Estonia's 20% personal tax rate. It encourages productivity and working side hustles worth it if you want to. In Canada, but more specifically in Ontario we have a progressive tax system that if you reach a little over 100k you end up in the next bracket so working more is not worth it since its around 40% (federal + provincial tax rates) you lose 40 cents on every dollar you earn.
Every dollar over $100,000 is taxed 40%. Not that your whole earnings are taxed 40% once you step over that line.
@jj70098
Yes, everything is taxed at the new tax bracket around 40%. So basically, every dollar you earn over 100k is taxed, so you lose 40 cents on the dollar, so OT or side hustles are not worth it since you end up in a higher tax bracket.
40% OMG 😮
3:37 what the heck is that map? Did some intern draw a fantasy map?
American map i guess.
That's how Weimar and III Reich Germany looked like yup
a "country" of 1.3 million with half of them old and the other half fleeing to western Europe... there are more fleas on a dog, how nice it is to hear talk of prosperity in such a small town
No that's incorect Russia has 144 milion, not 1.3
@@tamolamo4698The video says Estonia...they are so stupid that they can't even read?...well, the Americans don't even know where their capital is 😊
@@cerdomachista "the Americans don't even know where their capital is" Americans know the capitals of all other countries, except Estonia 🤣😂🤣
@user-zm5ez5on9o , You know how hard the Russians tried so that no one knew about the Baltic countries. Killings, rapes, robberies
Within 11 days!
Btw if you think our wages are low we have really high taxes
Do Lithuania next please!
the trilogy must be completed
'A Soviet ruin')) In the USSR, Estonia was the most prosperous republic. In fact, after gaining independence, almost all Estonian industry went ruin
It was the most prosperous because it was highly developed and wealthy before the Soviets occupied it. Estonia, Latvia and Finland were very similar in terms of economic and social development in the 1930s, and now Finland is one of the most prosperous countries in the world. I wonder why.
@@JohnHenryEden2277 they were developed, but also Soviet Union invested billions of dollars in them (e.g. Tallinn sea port). 'Before Soviet occupation' - when? These countries came into existence thanks to communist revolution in Russia. Latvian rifleman were the strongest support of Communist regime, which would be no doubt overthrown without their support. After Mr. Bērziņš founded GULAG, isn't it unexpected that many of his compatriots were thrown to it some years later?
Hahaha all the ruSSians comments , no no no Estonia was better off under soviet occupied and control 😅🤣😅 Estonia is doing great in EU 🇪🇺 and NATO !
The Russian troll factory is working very well.
@@cinderellaandstepsisters Do you call those who name obvious facts Russian trolls? Is everyone who doesn't agree with this abnormal propaganda a troll?
Just wondering besides the IT, what other industries are there? Where else people earn money?
Do you have internet ?
@@anttiryssa No, I don't
@@yuribudnyatsky3450 Too bad I can't help you in tzeburnet😒
I live in Estonia. I don't know many people earning 1.700 euros more like 1000 euros.
Must admit it's super safe here not like America where I'm from.
Cold for 8 to 9 months.
Estonians don't really respect anybody from other countries but want to get treated good when traveling.
People here don't believe in God. Problems with bullying. Most people are broke but act like they have money.
Estonians think that they are so good in digital or computers but honestly they can't even find workers only from other countries.
But Estonia is my second home & my kids like it here.
Good food & good looking women here. Estonians are very tall & a good education system.
Russian, Finland & Latvia are super close.
It's not cheap to live here sometimes I don't know how people do it.
That's enough.
Regards
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As an Estonian you are spot on
@@sebastianxd602 He is not Estonian, he lives in Estonia
@@anttiryssa Yes, i am estonian
1700 Euros is the average as there are now a lot of very well payed jobs in Estonia. But a 1000 Euros salary will still sllow you a confortable life as prices in Estonia are equivalent to Poland and Portugal.
Estonians not believing in god proves they are an advanced civilization. They have moved on from such silly superstitions.
Karelia was finnish territory until 1944.
Finlandia was russian territory until 1917
@@Chaldon-hl6ykFinland was an autonomous grand duchy of Russia's Empire of tsar 100 years with a lot of privileges.
Before that era Finland was directly a part of Sweden for almost 700 years. Finland and Sweden were the same country.
@@Chaldon-hl6yk so was Poland. What is your point?
Hope that the greedy eyes of Putler stay away of this beautiful country.
Don't worry, this beautiful soviet land still under occupation of greedy NATO. But Russia will find a way to liberate it.
@@anvold5152
I give Russian floating museum navy,3 minutes above sea level,in a fight with Nato.
Thats the max for there pimped WW2 rowboats.
Regarding the Baltic states, Putler is afraid to even look in their direction.
@@TakAndrzejPolak May God wishes it so.
@@RedbadvanRijn-ft3vv it's seems that you know nothing about Russian naval fleet. Old ships like aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov is not the main power of Russian fleet (it's from 1982, not from WW2, lol). The main power of of Russian naval fleet is modern atomic submarines, middle cruisers with Kalibr missiles, hypersonic ballistic missiles Kh-47M2 Kinzhal, HGV Avangard, 3M22 Zircon and autonomous nuclear-powered unmanned underwater vehicle Poseidon. I hope that NATO generals thinks like you, because if they decided attack Russia, they'll experience the greatest tragedy in NATO history.
Why are there so many towers in Eastern European cities? Don't get me wrong, they are beautiful. But why were they built in such large numbers?
Alas, many russian occupants still live in Estonia.
Russia colonized Narva!!!!!!
Narva🇪🇪- Ingria now under Moscovite rule🏴☠️🚩
But in "soviet ruin" life expectancy in Estonian SSR was even higher. 1700eur that estonians earn, they earn not in Estonia, but in countries like Germany. Estonia is depopulated.
Life expectancy in Estonia in 1975 was 69.35 years, while it's 79.18 years now. The average salary in the 2nd quarter of 2023 is 1873 Eur while it's 3975 Eur before tax in Germany. Why do you feel the need to lie exactly? You do realise anyone can check facts, don't you?
Or do you want to talk about life expectancy in Russia?
WW2 & Soviet Occupation depopulated Estonia... Without all of this BS, Estonia would have paralleled or even exceeded Finland in terms of per capita economy...
I feel like estionia is pursuing trchnological advancement, companies like microtik atarts to he recognisable while finnish nokia feels like its losing ground
In the Soviet Union, Estonia was one of the more developed republics and got significant subsidies at the cost of less privileged republics.
In the EU, Estonia is again propped up by significant subsidies at the cost of less privileged states.
I'm just not sure where the "Soviet Ruin" enters the equation. For example, Estonia's Tallinfilm made a significant number of well known movies.
I wish I had included some info related to this.
It's funny when someone compares the USSR to the EU. Estonia was part of the planned economy of the USSR, so it was not subsidized. The Soviets invested in certain branches of Estonian industry so that, in accordance with the assumptions of the plan, this component would secure the demand of the rest of the country in certain areas, while EU subsidies are a kind of compensation for the fact that the Estonian economy has to compete with more developed EU economies on rights that favor the larger and wealthier , The EU is investing in areas that are to make Estonians have fairer conditions of competition.
USSR was also guided by the principles of pragmatism, at least to a limited extent, so it implemented some projects where there was a convenient environment to ensure the handling of these projects. Before the war, the Baltic States were better developed in terms of civilization than other regions of the USSR, so complex investment projects were located there, not in Tajikistan or Siberia. The Baltic countries had an appropriate intellectual base, so the positive effects of investments were visible to the naked eye, today it is similar, as you can see, they are much better at absorbing investment capital or competing for this capital with other post-Soviet republics.
Estonia didn't get more subsidies, all had equal amount, Estonia was just less corrupt. Even these days Estonia has one of the lowest corruption rates in the world, while other ex Soviet countries are highly corrupt.
Corruption is what led to fall of USSR in the first pace.
@@kriskt4754 No, that's not true. Estonia did get more subsidies. These things are actually documented with charts, numbers and Soviet-made infographics about that.
You can't just shrug it off. That of the official policy of "showcase of socialism".
كل تلك مظاهر خداعه للراسماليه الغربيه / وما خفي كان اعظم
Economic wonder where the prime minister is doing business with Russia. Not that far from Soviet ruin.
Before the occupation at the end of 1930, the economies of Finland and the Baltic countries were on an equal level. After the occupation, 50 years later, the economy of the Baltic States was 30 years behind the economy of Finland
There's no occupation ever happend. It's just scary fairy-tale for small estonian childs.😂
@@anvold5152 Of course not - По-русски это называется «дружба народов».😂
Well, for some reason the Russians call it genocide lately, ... the wet sleep of the little Russians 🤣🤣
@@anttiryssa oh, friendship is a good thing, right? So, I think you shouldn't demonizate Russia. I was in St. Petersburg and it one of the most beautiful and modern European cities.
As I know Russians never called it genocide. I only know, that they recognized Blockade of Leningrad by German and Finland armies as genocide. And they have their reasons for it.
@@anvold5152 Estonian armies ?? In Leningrad ??
@@anvold5152 Are you sure you have been to Leningrad?
Interesting stuff 👍
"Estonia become part of EU, to ensure it's independence" 😂😂😂😂 one of funniest things I heard today.
BTW also fun fact that only couple hours before I watched a video about corruption in Estonian government.
"Democratic reforms" Mean adopting policies forced by imf world Bank and EU. Independence right?
You're drastically overestimating the IMF and EU's intrusiveness. BTW, Estonia voted to join the EU (not invaded like the USSR), and has representatives in EU parliament. Finally, it's WAAAAAY better than living as a Russian puppet and dictatorship like Belarus!
Cope more trollski 🤡🤡
For world class corruption, you need to look at Muscovy.
The policy of issuing "grey passports" (13:00) and threatening with forced expulsion for failing a language test (16:00) is such a shame. No modern democratic society should allow that.
@sognatore6199 There is such a type of people that even Russia does not want to give them passports
@@anttiryssa Are you dividing people into types?
@@sognatore6199 How to classify those illiterate and "gray passport holders"? Google translate suggested me "type"
Do you know why "gray passport holders" do not want to give up their passports?
People wanting to live in Europe should assimilate, learn the local language and costumes. Otherwise, off they go. Enough with tolerating intolerant cultures and religions.
@@anttiryssa It doesn't matter whether those people are literate or not. It doesn't matter whether they are ok with their inferior social status. A democratic society would never tolerate this kind of discrimination. Period. If you are into "classifying" people, then you'd better look for someone else's company to discuss this issue, since I don't really want to talk to you anymore.
Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Georgia, Ukraine are my heroes!
Too bad Qazaqistan isn't willing to sever itself from the Russian world.
Your heroes? Those are corrupt countries like Ukraine and Georgia! 🤮🤮🤮
@@bluejay7232 And the russonazis aren't? Ukrainians and Georgians (to an extent) at least make PROGRESS in rooting out corruption, while that third world shithole invading them doesn't even try. 😂😂😂
You are Kazakhi or is Qazaqistan different?
@@Pissa23 Qazaq (or the colonial variant Kazakh) is an ethnicity and language, seldom used for all citizens of the country, although I support that use. Qazaqistan (the name I prefer) or Qazaqstan (or the colonial variant Kazakhstan) is the country, add -i at the end and you get the common name for all citizens.
Russian estonians are not russians. They are estonians. They have mostly no connections left to russia, they have no idea how the Russia lives. All they have is their family language (russian) and Slavic names.
Estonia isn't actually doing as great as the video makes them out to be. 25% of the population is at risk of poverty, population declined by 20% since the dissolution and economic growth rate has been much slower since independence. Real term GDP is only double the level of 30 years.
@Toivo58479
25% poverty rate is alarmingly high for an allegedly prosperous and developed nation.
Russian mass immigration is a part of why population plummeted but it isn't the only factor to it. Lots of ethnic Estonians left Estonia for abroad, birth rate plummeted while death rate skyrocketed, ethnic Russians were driven out by increasing Anti-Russian discrimination.
The 28 fold increase is only nominal GDP. Not real term GDP. There was a fast gdp growth AFTER a severe economic collapse and despite the relatively fast growth, REAL TERM GDP is just double of the 1990 level after 30 years.
24,339th viewer of this video!
He's talking about earnings in the Euro but what about expenses ?
Everybody in the West is fed-up of the rising cost of living like basic stuff like Food accommodation and fuel are no where comparable to other developing countries where still it's liveable situation..
This is what I hope for all the Finno Ugric tribes that are still slaves of Russia. They could flourish if they just would get the chance to be free. Like there was at some point even talks of Estonia becoming part of us but look how well they are doing by just believing in themselves instead of seeking cover under someone else. They are a prime example of what the darkness does to a country and what happens when light gets to shine on it once more.
There is no slaves in Russia. But it's seems that you are slave of western propaganda.
Estonia was advance during the Soviet union, more then she was in her history, but remember ww2 and the catastrophes
If you wish to talk with God talk ~ to your ~ Self ~ a Photon.
Well done. Would like to visit Estonia.
Contracts to people of Estonia from Poland 👏
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Estonia’s “economic success” is paper thin and largely goes out the door to other EU nations because of the common market and freedom of movement.
The reason digital companies set up shop in Estonia is that housing and office space are dirt cheap and people from actually technologically developed countries like Germany or Netherlands or France can move there with no barriers.
America pays for all their defense as well, so they aren’t really independent.
Native Estonians are still the dirt farmers they’ve always been but for the generosity of greater powers like the Soviet Union, and now Germany/France/USA.
Someone sounds like a butthurt troll for Muscovy.
Native Estonians are still the dirt farmers ?
The fuck are you on about ???
You clearly do not know any real Estonians.
Russia's troll factory is working very well.
Estonia seems to have a slight increase in population but thanks to immigration policies, native Estonians continue to decrease and its economy depends on 70% of what the EU donates...it also benefits from the infrastructure inherited from the USSR
Prigozhin is dead and u are still getting paid?
@@kapsaline ok,we have a frustrated here...bro, accept it, nobody can stop Rus, captain america will not come and Rus will concontinue to expand.Come out of denial
@@sagitario7731 Rusia wont exist in 10 years as a state. Cope.
@@tamolamo4698 😂Rus has existed for a thousand years. Sit and wait for it to disappear there, along with charles of sweden , napoleon, hitler and biden. Good luck billy bob
Nah, it's the opposite. it's the russian population in Estonia that is declining not native Estonians, Estonia is one of the few European countries that is not experienceing population decline, partly because of Ukranian immigration and partly because, unlike russians, Estonians are not that happy about living in panel housing ( which does reduce birthrates because, of a lack of free space to have many children ) and as such are moving out to bigger home areas in bigger numbers then, the russian population
One of the reasons Estonia is so prosperous is because for the last 20 years it has received billions of dollars in aid and loans from the European Union, also Russia and Belarus use Estonian ports for its exports injecting in the Estonian economy billions of Euros every year in transfer fees. Without any of that Estonia would not be that well off'
It still proves the point that it’s better to be together with the civilized west instead of the barbaric and in all ways inferior craphole, which is Russia
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@@martinkoitmae6655 Look it up!!!! You're welcome to it. There is no worse blind man than the one who does not want to see. That's you!!!
EU programs help no doubt, but the effect on GPD was estimated once to be around 0.2%. Further positive effect comes from benefits being in the EU zone. But, Estonia reached double GPD per capita of Russia by 2004, that is before any EU programs and benefits, and without the massive natural riches Russia has.
As for ports, Russia stopped nearly all traffic through Estonia in 2007, after it had organized a rebellion among the ethnic Russians in Estonia. Private businesses have to toe the line with Putin, so the effect was country-wide.
It over now. In the first half of 2023 the cargo turnover of the Estonian sea ports fell down 29 %. In 2022 the decrease was another 15 %. Since 2011 the cargo turnover fell down 45 %.
A big part of the economic succes of the Baltic countries are linked with the proximity and access to the Russian market, without it their inflation and debt are rising very fast.
None of these theses is true, inflation has a constant downward trend, debt in relation to GDP is also falling, in nominal terms it is higher but in terms of proportions it is lower because state revenues are significantly higher. By the way, the Russian market compared to the EU market is microscopic and poor, even before the introduction of sanctions, Russia imported products from the EU with a value 2x lower than, for example Poland, which is not an economic giant. You repeat the fairy tales of Kremlin propagandists who tell fairy tales about how Russia brought the West to its knees.
These days this statement makes no sense. The whole euro zone is slowly going to recession.
18:38 that highspeed = first average speed 182km/h and second many get push sell they homes and trihd ticket at Tallinn to Riga get price on summer 2028 ca 70 euro ; to Warssav ca 190 euro = local estonian use no more then once that train.
15:20 You can see the naive western perspective in matters of Baltic states and Russia.
Russian settlers who were placed in Baltic states during the years of Soviet occupation have always been hostile towards the natives and the independence of the Baltic states.
Appeasement never works with an aggressor like the russians, only thing we must strive is for slow but sure, bloodless as possible decolonization.
Luckily for Estonia, Niger and other African nations still are suffering neo-colonialism from many warmonger NATO states such as France. France still tries to treat these African nations as its colonies. Hope that Estonia beg France to leave these African nations.
@ThienHoang-tr3dh Freedom for the people of Africa. We will do everything so that the people of Africa do not have to suffer, here in the bad NATO countries.
You should explain to them more that it is not worth coming to a bad NATO country.
Recommend them the African villages in Russia, you surely already know.
Do not call us for the next band aid for Africa.
Its time that nature is doing the job now.
Good luck with the CCP and Russia hahahahahhahaha
For heaven's sake. You believe those lies of Russia's troll farm.
There is nothing of wonder. The real economic wonder is China. Estonia is an average Central European state which lives on donations from EU. One of the highest inflation rate in Europe-2022 was in Estonia - 17,6 %.
You sound bitter
Glory to estonia
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