I bought a new one from a guy that he never use it and he had it for years in his basement for 50€. I can say that is way better than todays low budget steering wheels.
Even though I never use it, I still have mine. The motor in this wheel is near indestructible and actually sought after as it was over-engineered for its time.
Excellent review. I bought this in 2005 when it first came out and have never had a problem with it. It'll definitely suit a smoother driver (very much in reality the way you SHOULD drive to get the best out of your car) and not one who lacks fluidity.
Nice review , exactly what I needed to hear. I was saving up for a G29 , but my wife found & bought a Momo as a surprise gift.Looks like a decent wheel to get started in Sim racing until I can convince her that I need a G29 instead.😉
My advice as a g29 user. Dont buy it if you already have the momo. Its a good wheel but imo whole point of buying a g29 is if you're not sure if you really are into simracing or not and after buying the g29 you will either like simracing and buy better one or not be into simracing and you can sell it easily and im pretty sure the momo will do the same. I bought g29 3 months ago and i already bought csl dd and fanatec pedals and shifter.
I used this wheel till 2019 and then upgraded to G29 and now in 2022 again upgraded to Moza R9 + Heusinkveld Ultimate plus. If i had a second chance, i would have upgraded from Logitech Momo to a thrustmaster T300 instead of G29
I got one as a gift from friends ,and is it absolutely lovely. Despite being old ,back than they made stuff to last and this wheel still functions as brand new . Amazing wheel, fun to drive with
Just dug it out of my parent's attic. Found it in the dustiest corner underneath a pile of boxes and it still works perfectly like I remember it as a kid. Started getting back into racing gamed and sims recently, and remembered that I used to have a wheel somewhere, I just needed to find it, and I'm not disappointed. Wound up on this video just because I wanted to see how it compares to modern wheels that I've never tried, and while I can't say anything about those other wheels, I would say this video sums up the Momo wheel pretty perfectly, and mine was not well looked after. I abused it as a child, left it to rot in an attic, found it again and it still works exactly as the video describes.
Great review and production quality. I’d like to see you review a non-FFB wheel or two for really old PC racing games like NFS 3 HP and NFS Porsche unleashed. I think a quality non-FFB wheel for these old games feels much better than modern FFB wheels.
Very fair review of old hardware. I own one, was sold it back in 2006 for some RFactor racing and was glad for it at the time but recall it having all the issues you mention. I still have it but haven't been into racing sims much, although feeling like getting back into it. I think I will pass it onto someone else who wants to get into racing but doesn't have much money and start to save for a entry level logitech wheel, or something similar.
Have you tried turning the spring effects and dampening to zero? Maybe it might help improve the force feedback clarity if you do decide to return to this wheel someday.Nice video
I am using this wheel till 2007 and still using it. There is some wrong and missing information in this video. One simple ex: the resistance can become zero in game if you make the settings properly. You can feel understeer, oversteer and even the stifness of antiroll bars with this wheel.
I think it came out way before 2005. I have a set and remember getting it to play NFSU, the first one. I still have this set and time to time use it, now mainly with Ubuntu Linux based sims. Works just fine. Even the force feedback, quite astonishing for a plastic thingy 20 years old.
I still have this one and use it. We recently startet Project Cars 2 "Saturdays" for us. And after at least 5 years of not touching the wheel it works really good for me! :)
I'm still using this, though the internal switch for one of the shift paddles is broken so I can't shift using that paddle. And yes, there is a fair bit of resistant from the gears when turning the wheel. So if you need to change directions quickly in races, either turn down the force feedback, or use more strength from your arms....lol.
Hello, I take out off the box my MOMO Racing after 15 years and is in perfect chape, the last week I start again my racing games and a lot off Racing Room from Steam. It works and yes the force feedback is poor I need to put the breaking sound and the tires sound louder to get the input of the car. and I get the time that is impossible to improve because of the pedals. No feeling on the break and constant lock tires. So for me this is one off the best racing wills for the time, for our days is great to start to learn, to get in to this world. A really peace of hardware to understand the evolution to our days. Great video. thanks
Ive had set the GT3 record at monza in project cars with this wheel a few years back, so hardware isnt that important if you get used to it. But newer wheels are a lot better totally agree
Using a borrowed one from a friend. Was fine for Forza Horizon 5, but feel like it is holding me back in ACC. Currently looking at the T300RS GT set from Thrustmaster, but still hesitant to actually buy one :/ And yes, when your backend starts sliding it's basically game over with this wheel. Edit: Following some of the suggestions in the comments really helped. Left overall strength at 100%, reduced spring effect strength to 0%, set damper to ~30% and disabled centering spring. Much better experience now, albeit with less pronounced ffb. Worth it though.
I still use one like this for PC and AC. A piece of advice if I may... default support for this wheel in more modern games got pretty bad in regards to FF, but if you do a proper setup for it then it will make a very significant change. I have to argue that feeling the cars slip and countersteering is very much doable by feel. I don't know how ACC does it, but for AC it needs a wheelchecker log file to generate a custom LUT file for the game. Set gain to what is comfortable and not to weak (140-150 for me), also drop all other sliders (roar/kerb/slip...) to 0 otherwise they will be overpowering and do not use the "Enhanced Understeer" option. If you have a copy of AC give it a try it will make this wheel usable, and you will feel a lot more detail from the FF (like you said for the kart game, it does have the motor for it, it just needs the proper setup).
Can you please give more details about the process of making this wheel usable on AC? Because i have one that i like to use sometimes but instead of getting fun times driving on AC i just get frustrated. I have to retry solo races like 5 times per race in order to make set a proper time
It looks like he's not interested (no reply) so I'll try to explain as best as I can: First, you need to generate and use a lookup table that is specific to your wheel. Just follow the instructions on this page: www.racedepartment.com/downloads/lut-generator-for-ac.9740/ This will make sure that the force-feedback is linear so you won't have any deadzones for the effects, so it helps you feel the small things that normally aren't present with the MOMO steering wheel by default. Make sure to set Logitech profiler before you generate the LUT file: Effects Strengths set to 100% "Enable Centering Spring in Force Feedback Games" UNTICKED! "Report combined Pedals" UNTICKED! "Allow Game To Adjust Settings" TICKED! The second part is making sure that the correct settings are used in-game. For me, the game settings are the following: Gain 140% - You want to set this to the highest value that is not bothering you when you try to countersteer Filter/Minimum Force/Kerb Effects/Road Effects/Slip Effects 0% - These are all present even with 0%, these slides just amplify the effects. If you want more then you could set them higher, but don't go overboard with them. 5% for most effect will be too much and will have distracting effects or will result in unwanted wheel movement that will affect your lap times in a negative way. ABS Effects 2% - this was the only one where I needed more than 0%. Remember that this will be felt only when you are driving a car that has abs and it is turned on For a bit more detail of each effect, you can read this: www.reddit.com/r/assettocorsa/comments/5l64g8/this_is_how_the_ffb_worksand_how_to_set_it_up/ The LUT file does help with any steering wheel so it is highly recommended. And remember that every wheel is a bit different so play around with the values and use the ones that are best for you. The ones that I provided are the ones that work best for me. One more thing that might be important: Download DXTweak2 ( www.avsimrus.com/f/misc-24/dx-tweak-2-v4-30-229-1506/download ) and make sure that your pedal sliders are not acting in a strange way. My potentiometers are not always setting back to 0 (in the software that would be 255 since the axis' are reversed) so I had to set the calibration for the Accelerator and Brake to Min=0, Cen=113 and Max=225. Otherwise, I got unwanted brake and/or acceleration input from time to time that made the cornering unstable ( hugely upsetting the balance of the car ). I hope this helps you to enjoy racing with your MOMO :)
I had the "for PS2" Driving Force Pro with 900 degrees back in the day and that one had the heavy feel to it as well. Wasn't until the G25 that they figured that out. To this day that's the biggest constraint of that wheel and the MOMO, the wheel being slow to rotate when countersteering. Pedals actually look really similar to the DFP and DFGT ones, wouldn't be surprised if they're compatible. With that said, I still LOVE the aesthetics on this one. I dare say I prefer how this looks compared to all the modern Logitech wheels and some of the Thrustmasters. I wish Logitech did like a remake of the MOMO with the modern internals and pedals.
I have a secondhand DFGT I picked up to review as well, which didn't have pedals so hoping these MOMO pedals are compatible. I'm confident they will work just fine and will find out soon enough.
@@SimRacingCorner ruclips.net/video/zHbqXu-uLKY/видео.html I did this to my DFP pedals way back. Fairly simple to do, anyone with these wanting some more resistance, can highly recommend.
I actually have both the MOMO and Driving force GT. But I prefer the momo, it has a more expensive feeling to it. I don't use any of them since I have the G27. But occasionally I bring out the MOMO instead, I actually prefer it in some racing games like Race Driver: Grid. Just sharing my opinion :)
I downloaded ACC + Nordschleife DLC because they are on sale. I remembered having a wheel back in the day so today I went in the shed and found a Logitech MOMO Racing wheel with pedals stashed in a box. I downloaded the drivers, which to my surprise were still available on Logitech's website. I fired up ACC and tried the wheel. Didn't really like the feel at all, so I looked for tips on YT and found yours. Many thanks for posting the review. I didn't know e.g. that you could fasten the wheel like you showed. One thing you forget to mention is that you cannot access "Steering Wheel" -> "Axis Properties" unless you set a Game Profil first. Now it's time to do a lot of tweaking so it's hopefully somewhat usable to play ACC with.
I still have my MOMO. There is so much resistance when trying to turn the wheel that if you start to loose the back end in high speed and have to snap the wheel quickly to save from spinning out, the wheel will not turn fast enough due to this extreme resistance. You can over power this resistance but then something inside the mechanism slips and the wheel becomes off-center. Even with all force feedback turned off (much less resistance) there is still enough resistance to get the wheel off centered in a snap-steer situation. Great wheel in it's day but the high resistance and noisiness are quite strong negatives.
I was just gifted one of these from an uncle who was moving and needed to reduce his belongings. It's brand new in an unopened box! Can't wait to give this a try with a decent driving simulator.
I have a Logitech MOMO and until a week ago it was my racing wheel. It was good but like you said, on more serious racing sims the counter steering is its biggest drawback on games like Assetto Corsa and Project CARS, really... it's nearly impossible because you always give it more turn than you need to correct. Now I have a Logitech G920 which is still an entry level wheel but worlds apart with its 900 degrees of rotation and a more refined force feedback effect. For less serious games like Forza and Gran Turismo (yes, it works on PS3) it works nearly perfect, since those games are more forgiving and dampen a bit your movement.
Assetto corsa has a wheel gamma setting (makes the virtual wheel turn more progressive on higher angles while still being able to make small adjustments around the center). On the momo this makes a big difference. 1.3 is what i'm using.
I had this steering wheel since i was a baby my parents bought it for me i didn't know it was from 2005 thought it was from 2009 anyways its an old classic and i used to play 18 wheels of steel american long haul truck simulator when i was 5, great steering wheel I wish everyone could experience it
I was doing some spring cleaning this weekend and found my MOMO in the back of a closet. I don't think I've used it in 15 years, so I put it in the "toss" pile. I'm still not convinced that I'll ever use it again, but it is now back in the closet.
I got that one exact wheel in 2006 to play NFS Carbon back in the days and totally forgot it for about, well, 15 years approximately. I bought Dirt Rally 2.0 weeks ago and decided to give a try with the MOMO: I was a bit disapointed at first. Faults mine for I forgot it used drivers. Thanks to SRC for reminding me that fact! I'll give it a new try as soon as possible.
i got a momo like 5 years ago for $50. i used it for old arcade racers like cruisin usa, then got bored and put it away until 2020 when i got into sim racing. it does the job well enough to have fun as a rookie. the pedals are very soft so i modded mine with rubber bands, and added a wedge under the brake spring. it helps reduce the floating foot feel. ffb is rattley and loud. i set mine to focus on tyre force and grip (slip effect) instead of road bumps.
@@ademelmas2392 I have played some arcade games with it. It works with the N64 emulator and some titles for N64, some NFS titles, it sort of works with Trackmania - but not very well, Forza Horizon - but not in any rally car or off road.
how did you mod the pedals? and what did you use to wedge the brake pedal? this wheel is great but pedals are too light.. any advice would be appreciated
It's a great starting point if you are unsure if you will enjoy getting serious into sim racing. It's cheap and solid. The only problem is getting addicted and wishing for more.
I have the driving force gt shown later, and love it. Getting a momo hand-me-down tomorrow, so I wanted to check it out. I like the shifter swap feature and it looks like the pedals are definitely cross compatible. Curious if I can get this wheel to work on PS2 or if it will be pc only. PS my GT is used and works nicely, but every once in a while it doubles my downshifts on the paddle. The force feedback is fantastic in GT4, but slightly underwhelming comparitively on Enthusia with the high setting. I love the 900°, gets frantic and realistic on hairpins.
I dont know if it will work with ps2 but i used it for gran turismo 5 and 6 on ps3. It wont show up as a wheel option in game, but works if you select a certain logitech wheel from the options (i forget which)
So i have a problem. Wheel works fine but i think the profiler does not recognize the wheel correctly because it appears as 2 axis 10 button controller and does not let me change settings like axis properties and etc. only calibration settings work. Anyone knows how to fix it?
last year i bought this wheel at a tip for 10 dollars AUD, was missing a power adapter so i just bought a universal one for 20 AUD. i was pretty happy to use it despite its limitations
Nice review, watched to see if its worth upgrading. I still have the Momo 15 years later. And for computer gear. Its the only thing from 15 years ago that still works like it did 15 years ago. Great product for its time. Obviously outdated now. But still brilliant for Arcade Racing.
The homie black jack gifted this to me in 2010. Works on PS3 and not on PS4. Great for Gran Turismo 5 and midnight club LA. About to hook it up tonight...
Hello everyone. I'm trying to use this wheel on a windows 11 install. Unfortunately while the Logitech Profiler app sees the wheel, all options to configure the it (like Axis Properties mentioned in the video itself) or any of the buttons are greyed out. Any idea how to fix this? Any input/feedback would be appreciated. Thanks.
I bought mine pretty much when this wheel was released in my country, so reckon I've had this wheel for close to 18 years. Sadly my pedals finally called it a day and no longer work, and now looking for something new. Just an Update, this wheel isn't officially supported on Windows 11, you can install the latest Windows 10 drivers, but a lot of the tweaking that you could do in Windows 10 like you showed is greyed out. Now you can only adjust the base FFB settings, and set the pedal to combined pedals (I prefer them as individual). You can no longer tweak the inputs like you could in Windows 10. But yes, all the latest games do work, except Dirt 5, but Dirt 5 is so much of an arcade game you're better off using a controller anyway.
I still use that wheel when playing Assetto Corsa. I modded it to get around 345 degrees of rotation but thinking of swapping it to something with at least 900. What do you think about Thrustmaster T150 or maybe old good DFGT?
I do have a Thrustmaster TMX, which is basically the T150 in a different console guise. DFGT really isn't far off the T150/TMX. And considering the how cheap the DFGT can be found for, I'd go with that. And it comes with the legendary Logitech reliability.
The rubber on my momo wheel has degraded a lot and become quite sticky and weepy. Anyone else with this issue? I no longer use it but have considered either wearing gloves or cleaning off the stickyness with alcohol and then spraying the rubber with some rubber coating spray paint to try to stop it weeping more.
being limited to that many degrees of rotation is fairly true to how a go kart or F1 car handles. It is shaped rather like an 80s/early 90s F1 wheel.... if you bought it for rallying; you could be an dingbat
Hello there , i installed the spesific drivers for my windows 10 ( also tried few other drivers , logitech hub etc. ) but none of them read my momo wheel , the logitech profiler doesnt start as it doesnt read my momo wheel . Tried to restart and connect the wheel again but nothing really worked , anyone knows a solution ? thank you
As soon as you plug in the wheel into your PC (even without drivers) the wheel should run it's auto calibration (wheel rotates both directions). If that's not happening then it's a hardware failure, or the power supply.
@@SimRacingCorner Hi thanks for the quick response , im using windows10 and as i see your link it says for windows 7 . Do you have a downloand link for win10 maybe?
@@BigMan-xq6zc I'm on Windows 10 and used these drivers so they are compatible. Btw the Logitech G HUB software does not support the MOMO, just these old drivers.
I just got one from my uncle who’s cleaning out his apartment, my question is if I could possibly use it on my PS4 or something like that? I know it’s Logitech and can be used for windows I was just looking for answers if I could use it on a console?
I got my hand on one probably back in 2016-17 and use it sence then. Sadly i do not have the power cable for it and the middle table clamp is missing but it works btw thanks for the drivers i could not find them
That was the beauty of the Microsoft ffb systems, if you can find a cassette deck lead you are good to go. Hate having to keep wall warts organised, they often don't even mark which device they are for.
The Logitech MOMO is the way to go vs. the Thrustmaster 458 Italia. The MOMO has force feedback, the Thrustmaster does not. If you want the Thrustmaster 458 Italia, get it on eBay, they are dirt cheap too.
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Watch my unboxing video here: ruclips.net/video/SXNnule_S2Q/видео.html
I bought a new one from a guy that he never use it and he had it for years in his basement for 50€. I can say that is way better than todays low budget steering wheels.
Its still better to buy this kind of wheel than cheap chinese brand steering wheel. Already got my dfp. Its good too.
@@konorucs9965 dude, this wheel is so underrated, I don't know why people are buying Chinese no force feedback bullcrap
@@konorucs9965 whats dfp
@@bananus815 driving force pro
Force feedback is around like 1.5 nm of torque but the only big downside is the turning radius of 270 degrees.
I'm still using my Logitech Momo 17 years later and it's still working great.
Even though I never use it, I still have mine. The motor in this wheel is near indestructible and actually sought after as it was over-engineered for its time.
Excellent review. I bought this in 2005 when it first came out and have never had a problem with it. It'll definitely suit a smoother driver (very much in reality the way you SHOULD drive to get the best out of your car) and not one who lacks fluidity.
Nice review , exactly what I needed to hear. I was saving up for a G29 , but my wife found & bought a Momo as a surprise gift.Looks like a decent wheel to get started in Sim racing until I can convince her that I need a G29 instead.😉
Thanks Gordon, glad my review helped!
@οὐτόπος lol
My advice as a g29 user. Dont buy it if you already have the momo. Its a good wheel but imo whole point of buying a g29 is if you're not sure if you really are into simracing or not and after buying the g29 you will either like simracing and buy better one or not be into simracing and you can sell it easily and im pretty sure the momo will do the same. I bought g29 3 months ago and i already bought csl dd and fanatec pedals and shifter.
I used this wheel till 2019 and then upgraded to G29 and now in 2022 again upgraded to Moza R9 + Heusinkveld Ultimate plus.
If i had a second chance, i would have upgraded from Logitech Momo to a thrustmaster T300 instead of G29
I just bought one for $4 at a yard sale... wanted to see a review on it. Looks like a got a hell of a deal. Nice for a starter wheel.
Got this as a gift when I was a kid in 2006, still using it to this day!
I got one as a gift from friends ,and is it absolutely lovely. Despite being old ,back than they made stuff to last and this wheel still functions as brand new . Amazing wheel, fun to drive with
very concise review, answered all my questions plus ones I didn't know i had yet :P
Glad you liked it!
Wow, i have this thing for 10/15 years on my basement... time to get it out thnx :O
I just got mine out after 5 years. It doesn't work.
@@plumeater1 ouch
@Mohammed Danish It should, even mine wheel from 2002 works just fine even with force feedback in BeamNG!
Same haha
Just dug it out of my parent's attic. Found it in the dustiest corner underneath a pile of boxes and it still works perfectly like I remember it as a kid. Started getting back into racing gamed and sims recently, and remembered that I used to have a wheel somewhere, I just needed to find it, and I'm not disappointed. Wound up on this video just because I wanted to see how it compares to modern wheels that I've never tried, and while I can't say anything about those other wheels, I would say this video sums up the Momo wheel pretty perfectly, and mine was not well looked after. I abused it as a child, left it to rot in an attic, found it again and it still works exactly as the video describes.
Describes my day word for word, although I have yet to try mine yet. Will hopefully have done so by the end of the day.
Great review and production quality. I’d like to see you review a non-FFB wheel or two for really old PC racing games like NFS 3 HP and NFS Porsche unleashed. I think a quality non-FFB wheel for these old games feels much better than modern FFB wheels.
Thank you. I have recently acquired a non-FFB Thrustmaster wheel to review. Thanks for the game recommendations, that's useful.
Very fair review of old hardware. I own one, was sold it back in 2006 for some RFactor racing and was glad for it at the time but recall it having all the issues you mention. I still have it but haven't been into racing sims much, although feeling like getting back into it. I think I will pass it onto someone else who wants to get into racing but doesn't have much money and start to save for a entry level logitech wheel, or something similar.
can i hv it
Have you tried turning the spring effects and dampening to zero? Maybe it might help improve the force feedback clarity if you do decide to return to this wheel someday.Nice video
Thanks bro i wanted to improve the force feedback
I am using this wheel till 2007 and still using it. There is some wrong and missing information in this video.
One simple ex: the resistance can become zero in game if you make the settings properly.
You can feel understeer, oversteer and even the stifness of antiroll bars with this wheel.
what settings do I need to change? I recently picked up one and am trying to figure it out
What do we need to change?
@@leferryhuncho7586 intensity 50 or higher - spring to 0 - and damping to 0
same settings work for my dfp too
@@shnoob1337 thanks for the advice but i have a g29 now. I retired my momo.
I think it came out way before 2005.
I have a set and remember getting it to play NFSU, the first one.
I still have this set and time to time use it, now mainly with Ubuntu Linux based sims. Works just fine. Even the force feedback, quite astonishing for a plastic thingy 20 years old.
@Zoran i did that too, just to learn shiting and driving, do it automatically so i could watch out of the windows.
I still have this one and use it.
We recently startet Project Cars 2 "Saturdays" for us. And after at least 5 years of not touching the wheel it works really good for me! :)
I'm still using this, though the internal switch for one of the shift paddles is broken so I can't shift using that paddle. And yes, there is a fair bit of resistant from the gears when turning the wheel. So if you need to change directions quickly in races, either turn down the force feedback, or use more strength from your arms....lol.
Hello, I take out off the box my MOMO Racing after 15 years and is in perfect chape, the last week I start again my racing games and a lot off Racing Room from Steam. It works and yes the force feedback is poor I need to put the breaking sound and the tires sound louder to get the input of the car. and I get the time that is impossible to improve because of the pedals. No feeling on the break and constant lock tires. So for me this is one off the best racing wills for the time, for our days is great to start to learn, to get in to this world. A really peace of hardware to understand the evolution to our days.
Great video. thanks
Awesome feedback, thanks.
Ive had set the GT3 record at monza in project cars with this wheel a few years back, so hardware isnt that important if you get used to it. But newer wheels are a lot better totally agree
This was the first wheel I ever used. I was probably about 8 or 9. I would play Nascar Thunder 2004 for hours. Man what a blast that was.
I still use mine. I've had it since 2005. I am thinking of getting a Fanatec DD1 and load cell pedals in a year or so
If I had money, I'd buy a budget Thrustmaster T300RS, but if I had a lot of money, damn, I'd buy the Fanatec CSL Elite
i have it too but it doesnt connect with Xbox One...Does it work withyou?
Prepare to have your mind blown
Do u use ur logtich on ps4?
Perfectly detailed and honnest overview. Thank you.
I appreciate that you can give negative feedback without being aggressive or just saying it sucks and telling people to buy an expensive wheel
Just brought from my local habitat for $20. Thanks for the information
For some reason I've always wanted one of these and still do
Helo
Using a borrowed one from a friend. Was fine for Forza Horizon 5, but feel like it is holding me back in ACC. Currently looking at the T300RS GT set from Thrustmaster, but still hesitant to actually buy one :/ And yes, when your backend starts sliding it's basically game over with this wheel.
Edit: Following some of the suggestions in the comments really helped. Left overall strength at 100%, reduced spring effect strength to 0%, set damper to ~30% and disabled centering spring. Much better experience now, albeit with less pronounced ffb. Worth it though.
Thank you !!! Very casual/occasional racer here, will buy this one!!!
I tried to use the pedals with a g27 and the break is constantly inverted.. anyway to fix that?
I still use one like this for PC and AC. A piece of advice if I may... default support for this wheel in more modern games got pretty bad in regards to FF, but if you do a proper setup for it then it will make a very significant change. I have to argue that feeling the cars slip and countersteering is very much doable by feel. I don't know how ACC does it, but for AC it needs a wheelchecker log file to generate a custom LUT file for the game. Set gain to what is comfortable and not to weak (140-150 for me), also drop all other sliders (roar/kerb/slip...) to 0 otherwise they will be overpowering and do not use the "Enhanced Understeer" option. If you have a copy of AC give it a try it will make this wheel usable, and you will feel a lot more detail from the FF (like you said for the kart game, it does have the motor for it, it just needs the proper setup).
Hey I just got this wheel (used one). Where can I contact you regarding more information about setting this wheel for assetto Corsa. ?
Can you please give more details about the process of making this wheel usable on AC? Because i have one that i like to use sometimes but instead of getting fun times driving on AC i just get frustrated. I have to retry solo races like 5 times per race in order to make set a proper time
@@nunodias5441 I reached out to
Sim Racing Corner, maybe he's interested in making a guide, if not I'll try to put something together for you guys
It looks like he's not interested (no reply) so I'll try to explain as best as I can:
First, you need to generate and use a lookup table that is specific to your wheel.
Just follow the instructions on this page: www.racedepartment.com/downloads/lut-generator-for-ac.9740/
This will make sure that the force-feedback is linear so you won't have any deadzones for the effects, so it helps you feel the small things that normally aren't present with the MOMO steering wheel by default.
Make sure to set Logitech profiler before you generate the LUT file:
Effects Strengths set to 100%
"Enable Centering Spring in Force Feedback Games" UNTICKED!
"Report combined Pedals" UNTICKED!
"Allow Game To Adjust Settings" TICKED!
The second part is making sure that the correct settings are used in-game.
For me, the game settings are the following:
Gain 140% - You want to set this to the highest value that is not bothering you when you try to countersteer
Filter/Minimum Force/Kerb Effects/Road Effects/Slip Effects 0% - These are all present even with 0%, these slides just amplify the effects. If you want more then you could set them higher, but don't go overboard with them. 5% for most effect will be too much and will have distracting effects or will result in unwanted wheel movement that will affect your lap times in a negative way.
ABS Effects 2% - this was the only one where I needed more than 0%. Remember that this will be felt only when you are driving a car that has abs and it is turned on
For a bit more detail of each effect, you can read this: www.reddit.com/r/assettocorsa/comments/5l64g8/this_is_how_the_ffb_worksand_how_to_set_it_up/
The LUT file does help with any steering wheel so it is highly recommended. And remember that every wheel is a bit different so play around with the values and use the ones that are best for you. The ones that I provided are the ones that work best for me.
One more thing that might be important:
Download DXTweak2 ( www.avsimrus.com/f/misc-24/dx-tweak-2-v4-30-229-1506/download ) and make sure that your pedal sliders are not acting in a strange way. My potentiometers are not always setting back to 0 (in the software that would be 255 since the axis' are reversed) so I had to set the calibration for the Accelerator and Brake to Min=0, Cen=113 and Max=225. Otherwise, I got unwanted brake and/or acceleration input from time to time that made the cornering unstable ( hugely upsetting the balance of the car ).
I hope this helps you to enjoy racing with your MOMO :)
@@attilapuskas Thanks alot, what is your steering rotation degrees set at, and I heard that you should tick center spring force but leave it at 0%,
I had the "for PS2" Driving Force Pro with 900 degrees back in the day and that one had the heavy feel to it as well. Wasn't until the G25 that they figured that out. To this day that's the biggest constraint of that wheel and the MOMO, the wheel being slow to rotate when countersteering. Pedals actually look really similar to the DFP and DFGT ones, wouldn't be surprised if they're compatible.
With that said, I still LOVE the aesthetics on this one. I dare say I prefer how this looks compared to all the modern Logitech wheels and some of the Thrustmasters. I wish Logitech did like a remake of the MOMO with the modern internals and pedals.
I have a secondhand DFGT I picked up to review as well, which didn't have pedals so hoping these MOMO pedals are compatible. I'm confident they will work just fine and will find out soon enough.
@@SimRacingCorner ruclips.net/video/zHbqXu-uLKY/видео.html
I did this to my DFP pedals way back. Fairly simple to do, anyone with these wanting some more resistance, can highly recommend.
@@randomfaca Nice, thanks for that. Looks easy enough to do.
I actually have both the MOMO and Driving force GT. But I prefer the momo, it has a more expensive feeling to it. I don't use any of them since I have the G27. But occasionally I bring out the MOMO instead, I actually prefer it in some racing games like Race Driver: Grid. Just sharing my opinion :)
It's all good stuff, thanks for the feedback.
Excellent review! It made my decision to buy this wheel a very easy one since I'm much more into arcade style racing games than I am sim games.
Thanks mate. I'll get one soon for pretty cheap
I downloaded ACC + Nordschleife DLC because they are on sale. I remembered having a wheel back in the day so today I went in the shed and found a Logitech MOMO Racing wheel with pedals stashed in a box. I downloaded the drivers, which to my surprise were still available on Logitech's website. I fired up ACC and tried the wheel. Didn't really like the feel at all, so I looked for tips on YT and found yours. Many thanks for posting the review. I didn't know e.g. that you could fasten the wheel like you showed. One thing you forget to mention is that you cannot access "Steering Wheel" -> "Axis Properties" unless you set a Game Profil first. Now it's time to do a lot of tweaking so it's hopefully somewhat usable to play ACC with.
I still have my MOMO. There is so much resistance when trying to turn the wheel that if you start to loose the back end in high speed and have to snap the wheel quickly to save from spinning out, the wheel will not turn fast enough due to this extreme resistance. You can over power this resistance but then something inside the mechanism slips and the wheel becomes off-center. Even with all force feedback turned off (much less resistance) there is still enough resistance to get the wheel off centered in a snap-steer situation. Great wheel in it's day but the high resistance and noisiness are quite strong negatives.
I was just gifted one of these from an uncle who was moving and needed to reduce his belongings. It's brand new in an unopened box! Can't wait to give this a try with a decent driving simulator.
I used this wheel till 2019 and then upgraded to G29 and now in 2022 again upgraded to Moza R9 + Heusinkveld Ultimate plus
I have a Logitech MOMO and until a week ago it was my racing wheel. It was good but like you said, on more serious racing sims the counter steering is its biggest drawback on games like Assetto Corsa and Project CARS, really... it's nearly impossible because you always give it more turn than you need to correct. Now I have a Logitech G920 which is still an entry level wheel but worlds apart with its 900 degrees of rotation and a more refined force feedback effect. For less serious games like Forza and Gran Turismo (yes, it works on PS3) it works nearly perfect, since those games are more forgiving and dampen a bit your movement.
Assetto corsa has a wheel gamma setting (makes the virtual wheel turn more progressive on higher angles while still being able to make small adjustments around the center). On the momo this makes a big difference. 1.3 is what i'm using.
Ps4 ??
I had this steering wheel since i was a baby my parents bought it for me i didn't know it was from 2005 thought it was from 2009 anyways its an old classic and i used to play 18 wheels of steel american long haul truck simulator when i was 5, great steering wheel I wish everyone could experience it
I was doing some spring cleaning this weekend and found my MOMO in the back of a closet. I don't think I've used it in 15 years, so I put it in the "toss" pile. I'm still not convinced that I'll ever use it again, but it is now back in the closet.
Its not working for me. I play FH4 on steam account. Can someone help me?
I got that one exact wheel in 2006 to play NFS Carbon back in the days and totally forgot it for about, well, 15 years approximately. I bought Dirt Rally 2.0 weeks ago and decided to give a try with the MOMO: I was a bit disapointed at first. Faults mine for I forgot it used drivers. Thanks to SRC for reminding me that fact! I'll give it a new try as soon as possible.
I had a glitch with mine on ets2 where there was no friction when turning while on the loading screen
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I have two of it ,since 2009 and working very good after 12 years!! worthwhile 100%
i got a momo like 5 years ago for $50. i used it for old arcade racers like cruisin usa, then got bored and put it away until 2020 when i got into sim racing. it does the job well enough to have fun as a rookie. the pedals are very soft so i modded mine with rubber bands, and added a wedge under the brake spring. it helps reduce the floating foot feel.
ffb is rattley and loud. i set mine to focus on tyre force and grip (slip effect) instead of road bumps.
Which game do you prefer?
@@ademelmas2392 RaceRoom and Assetto Corsa
@@EhPlusSimRacing ı got it, do you play arcade games with steering wheel ? or have you been try?
@@ademelmas2392 I have played some arcade games with it. It works with the N64 emulator and some titles for N64, some NFS titles, it sort of works with Trackmania - but not very well, Forza Horizon - but not in any rally car or off road.
how did you mod the pedals? and what did you use to wedge the brake pedal? this wheel is great but pedals are too light.. any advice would be appreciated
It's a great starting point if you are unsure if you will enjoy getting serious into sim racing. It's cheap and solid. The only problem is getting addicted and wishing for more.
All the buttons' settings on the profiler are blurred out and unavailable for me even though wheel and ffb are recognized. What could be the problem?
u need to select a game/game profile first.. then everything will be adjustable
@@haris9858 thank you, i had figured that out
I had one of those but I have lost the power adapter. I am using it without the force feedback and I'll get a replacement for the adapter soon!
Is it connected to the Wall????
I have the driving force gt shown later, and love it. Getting a momo hand-me-down tomorrow, so I wanted to check it out. I like the shifter swap feature and it looks like the pedals are definitely cross compatible. Curious if I can get this wheel to work on PS2 or if it will be pc only.
PS my GT is used and works nicely, but every once in a while it doubles my downshifts on the paddle. The force feedback is fantastic in GT4, but slightly underwhelming comparitively on Enthusia with the high setting. I love the 900°, gets frantic and realistic on hairpins.
I dont know if it will work with ps2 but i used it for gran turismo 5 and 6 on ps3. It wont show up as a wheel option in game, but works if you select a certain logitech wheel from the options (i forget which)
So i have a problem. Wheel works fine but i think the profiler does not recognize the wheel correctly because it appears as 2 axis 10 button controller and does not let me change settings like axis properties and etc. only calibration settings work. Anyone knows how to fix it?
last year i bought this wheel at a tip for 10 dollars AUD, was missing a power adapter so i just bought a universal one for 20 AUD. i was pretty happy to use it despite its limitations
Would you mind telling me which adapter you bought? What are its specifications? Thank you.
@@JSB1729 5.0V 1.0A
it was picked out for me when at a some electrical shop when i showed him the info on the wheel
@@b1ackgamma Thank you so much for this I really appreciate it.
@@JSB1729 all good. a lot of adapters are common within those numbers so it should be easy to find
Interesting, given that its originally rated for 12v
Nice review, watched to see if its worth upgrading. I still have the Momo 15 years later. And for computer gear. Its the only thing from 15 years ago that still works like it did 15 years ago. Great product for its time. Obviously outdated now. But still brilliant for Arcade Racing.
You can be competetive with this in simracing, too!
im unable to sync mine to the computer but it picks up in game, the logitech software doesn't recognize it
The homie black jack gifted this to me in 2010. Works on PS3 and not on PS4. Great for Gran Turismo 5 and midnight club LA. About to hook it up tonight...
I just got one and cant open the wheel axis settings where you invert the force feedback
I'm still using it...currently with an old game Race 07, before that I was using it in Toca Racedriver 3... I know... history
Works well with Forza H5 including the force feedback. I'm thrilled.
That's great to hear, thanks for the info.👍
@@SimRacingCorner it does work with xbox series ?
@@ravset8076 No. But it may work on the Xbox using the DriveHub hardware interface.
Hey guys my momo dont return to center, not vibrating when i leave track at Life for speed, is any fix for that?
Hello everyone. I'm trying to use this wheel on a windows 11 install. Unfortunately while the Logitech Profiler app sees the wheel, all options to configure the it (like Axis Properties mentioned in the video itself) or any of the buttons are greyed out. Any idea how to fix this? Any input/feedback would be appreciated. Thanks.
Just bought one from Goodwill in perfect condition for only $24.00. Looking forward to trying it out.
A very good classic wheel. The OG of decent/cheap sim wheels.. after this was the G25 and G27
Bought mine before 2005. Probably closer to 2002. After all these years, I still use it and it still works great.
I got Momo wheel as Christmas gift with F1 2002 back in time
So my momo has a problem with most games where it turns two times of what I actually did in game? I don’t know what to do.
I bought mine pretty much when this wheel was released in my country, so reckon I've had this wheel for close to 18 years. Sadly my pedals finally called it a day and no longer work, and now looking for something new.
Just an Update, this wheel isn't officially supported on Windows 11, you can install the latest Windows 10 drivers, but a lot of the tweaking that you could do in Windows 10 like you showed is greyed out. Now you can only adjust the base FFB settings, and set the pedal to combined pedals (I prefer them as individual). You can no longer tweak the inputs like you could in Windows 10. But yes, all the latest games do work, except Dirt 5, but Dirt 5 is so much of an arcade game you're better off using a controller anyway.
I cannot access the Axis Properties and I do not know why, any help??
SRG Barry needed to free up some space in the garage?😁👌
Nice review mate!👍
Ha, no not that Barry. Though I'd certainly be happy to help him clean out his old gear.
@@SimRacingCorner I bet you would! 😂👍
What if i cant access the software in task bar?
I will upgrade from my Momo to the fantec CSL Elite. :9
That's a BIG upgrade.
@@azl5044 lol
Currently playing Dirt 2.0 with my old MOMO...still great.
About 10-11 years ago I got my first wheel when I was 4 or 5 it was the momo I loved it it was amazing I still have it somewhere I think
I still use that wheel when playing Assetto Corsa. I modded it to get around 345 degrees of rotation but thinking of swapping it to something with at least 900. What do you think about Thrustmaster T150 or maybe old good DFGT?
I do have a Thrustmaster TMX, which is basically the T150 in a different console guise. DFGT really isn't far off the T150/TMX. And considering the how cheap the DFGT can be found for, I'd go with that. And it comes with the legendary Logitech reliability.
@@SimRacingCorner You helped me to make a decision. Thanks!
@@millkiss Good stuff! 👍
does the cable at 3:00 go into the steering wheel set or somewhere else? Is it just a predecessor to the RJ12 cable?
Into the steering wheel base.
i dont get both LED on any more...new drivers on but still wont show in any game
The rubber on my momo wheel has degraded a lot and become quite sticky and weepy. Anyone else with this issue? I no longer use it but have considered either wearing gloves or cleaning off the stickyness with alcohol and then spraying the rubber with some rubber coating spray paint to try to stop it weeping more.
Got this nearly 14 years ago and just now got it fired up. Shame it doesn’t work too well with ForzaHorizon series. Is the power adapter for FFB?
I got this ages ago and only just found out i has force feedback. I now have to go through all my unused cables to find out if one fits lol
If it helps, I put details on the power supply required in the video description!
The buttons on my logitech Profiler are greyd out? Any tipps on that ?
It's still being supported still use and love it great entry level for gamers
being limited to that many degrees of rotation is fairly true to how a go kart or F1 car handles. It is shaped rather like an 80s/early 90s F1 wheel.... if you bought it for rallying; you could be an dingbat
The options on logitech software for "steering wheel" are grey (un changeable)
what’s the best wheel compatible with switch
Still much better than cheap spring toys form markets (in similar price)
i Have two wheels ,since 2009 brand new,,still working in win11 ..excelent at all ...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
is the driver compatible with windows 11? and is the driver has to be run as administrator?
How do you connect it to your PC?
USB
Be good to compare this 2005 MOMO to the current G923 - To see the improvements over time.
Hello there , i installed the spesific drivers for my windows 10 ( also tried few other drivers , logitech hub etc. ) but none of them read my momo wheel , the logitech profiler doesnt start as it doesnt read my momo wheel . Tried to restart and connect the wheel again but nothing really worked , anyone knows a solution ? thank you
As soon as you plug in the wheel into your PC (even without drivers) the wheel should run it's auto calibration (wheel rotates both directions). If that's not happening then it's a hardware failure, or the power supply.
@@SimRacingCorner Hi thanks for the quick response , im using windows10 and as i see your link it says for windows 7 . Do you have a downloand link for win10 maybe?
@@BigMan-xq6zc I'm on Windows 10 and used these drivers so they are compatible. Btw the Logitech G HUB software does not support the MOMO, just these old drivers.
@@SimRacingCorner The logitech programm doesnt read my momo wheel , no other idea how to fix it right ? :/
@@BigMan-xq6zc Just sounds like it's broken. Could be anything.
I'm STILL using this in iRacing! I do okay....average driver.....but yes, it is time to upgrade.....just have to convince my wife!
Sweet good to hear I just picked one up yesterday and eager to get it going on Iracing
I just got one from my uncle who’s cleaning out his apartment, my question is if I could possibly use it on my PS4 or something like that? I know it’s Logitech and can be used for windows I was just looking for answers if I could use it on a console?
Unfortunately, it's not PS4 compatible. Only PS3 and PC.
Own this before Logitech launch G25, so quality wheel at that time. 👍🏼
Is it possible to connect the logitech g29 pedals on this wheel?. Does anyone tried?.
They won't work.
I got my hand on one probably back in 2016-17 and use it sence then. Sadly i do not have the power cable for it and the middle table clamp is missing but it works btw thanks for the drivers i could not find them
That was the beauty of the Microsoft ffb systems, if you can find a cassette deck lead you are good to go. Hate having to keep wall warts organised, they often don't even mark which device they are for.
I bought universal Power plug for this. needs 24 Volts
E facile configuralo su ps3?
my wheel is so hard to turn i dont have the original adapter
Where I can I download the installation software and drivers and a sample racing game? Thanks.
Drivers are in the video description. Try RaceRoom on Steam.
@@SimRacingCorner Thank you.
This wheel for dirt cheap via goodwill/ebay vs the $99 thrustmaster 458 italia? What are your thoughts.
The Logitech MOMO is the way to go vs. the Thrustmaster 458 Italia. The MOMO has force feedback, the Thrustmaster does not. If you want the Thrustmaster 458 Italia, get it on eBay, they are dirt cheap too.
wondering if I should sell mine and upgrade to the G29
A G29 is a good upgrade from the MOMO.
Yes, worth it. I just upgraded from the MOMO to a G920 and the difference it really noticeable.
I can use the wheel without cable but i don’t have force feedback