How easy is it to cock and decock 150 lb in a Stinger?
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- Опубликовано: 20 май 2023
- With new higher draw weights hitting the market, namely 120 and 150 lb, some might be wondering if you can even cock these limbs in a Stinger. It is actually pretty easy, especially in the Survival configuration, but also in a Tactical. So if you have the space for longer shots and a use for the power, grab an upgrade. Take a look for demonstrations, my thoughts on when to use what draw weight, and some accuracy and safety considerations.
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00:16 - Intro
01:12 - Draw weight philosophy
04:37 - Cocking 150 lb with the Stinger lever
06:39 - Cocking with the stirrup by hand
07:20 - Cocking rope for cocking and decocking
09:55 - Safety warning when decocking
11:03 - Symmetrical cocking
15:10 - Conclusion 
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Great information Eric, I always look forward to watching your content!
amazing video Eric❤
Thank you good information always .
I couldn't do the 150 limb due to disability
Können Sie 150-IBS -auf-Steambow-Taktikal verwenden? Danke
Geht auf jeden Fall, das Mechanismus ist robust genug, und spannen geht für mich ohne Probleme und ist kaum langsamer als 90 Pfund
Cocking it with the leaver, with the 150 draw, does the leaver feel like it's wraping or bending at all? Must be getting close to max draw weight for this leaver and polymer frame, thoughts?
The lever still feels fine in terms of flex, but I still have the sense that we approaching the sensible draw weight limit for the level. In my opinion, the 150 lb is basically best the Survival configuration and the cocking stirrup.
The biggest weakness I see in terms of the lever and higher draw weights is that the threads of the factory bolt run through the pivot hole in the lever, so you have sharp edges that are bound to slowly widen the hole. A bolt with the shank extending through the lever would be better here, plus perhaps a steel bushing in the cocking lever, of the same hardness as the bolt. Or at least brass.
In terms of the polymer frame, I suspect it could take a lot more draw weight before flexing, and that a conventional claw lock like on a Vlad would fail at a lower draw weight than this chunk of polymer with a notch in it. But I would like to actually test this, and could be wrong.
Thanks for taking the time to reply @@fletchedevolution! Appreciate the insight.
If reliability and longevity are to be considered in a longer term survival / shtf environment, then it is my opinion that 150lbs draw weight is too "heavy" for those plastic bodied pistol platforms.
I have not done any engineering tests but my "instinct" would suggest that running them well above the designed draw weight of 50lbs to 80lbs could find any weaknesses much quicker than under stressing them.
Same goes for string life.
Running a string at 80lbs is going to put much less wear and stress on it than running a string at 150lbs.
These may not be concerns to some, nor even considered, but if the build quality of a full size crossbow running 150lbs is compared to a plastic pistol running 150lbs it may become a concern.
It is my opinion that if such high draw weights are going to be entertained then either a metal bodied pistol should be considered or better still a full size crossbow / carbine crossbow such as the R9.
I feel, and again just my opinion so I won't be offended if people disagree, is that the plastic bodied pistols are best used with draw weights of 90lbs or less.
Yes, you make very good points. At 150 lb, I see more the cocking lever as a potential weakness with extended use, unless you use a bolt with a shank that extends through the pivot hole and also perhaps put a bushing in the pivot hole.
I am not sure that 150 lb is enough to flex this chunk of polymer with a notch in it, I need to work up a way to measure this.
But string and arrow wear are definite, definite factors, at these high draw weights. You need aluminum end caps really, and these also probably wear out the end loop servings way faster than the polymer ones at this draw weight.
I think that 120 is probably the sweet spot for an actual survival Stinger, but 80 or 90 lb is also more than enough for game of a size that I think you can cleanly and quickly kill with the small broadheads we can get now.
Also noting that traps and snares are much more effective for getting food if you are actually in a survival situation (taking legality into account as always).
Why bother with a stinger ? The point of a stinger is the way it cocks, more powerful bows cock the manual way and have more range and power , horses for courses. The adder is what you buy if you want the cocking method plus more power.
Yes, I think this is more suitable for the Survival really