Interesting. I've got Ozone 10 Advanced, and I'll have to admit that I often go back to Ozone 9 for mastering features. For me, Ozone 10 just wants to do too much off the bat. I was hoping Ozone 11 could be used more subtly.
Haha, seriously. I love their products, but that discount is a complete joke. 😰 I understand they need to make money, but it feels like a bit of a slap in the face for only a 25% discount. There's plenty of other "clarity" plugins for much less than the $200 CAD pricetag that will achieve the exact same result. 🤷♂️
I have never used ozone assistant to master my tracks i do it from scratch and looking at this new features added am so so upgrading to ozone 11 it worth it , i just imagine what i can achieve with this new features ...DEM SO GOOD
See Izotope is SMART AF. They incorporate the best feature from other manufacturers and place them into one box, with the option of still using the other plug ins. EG (SPLIT EQ's sustain/transient split!!) Even if it's not as detailed it's still way past what normal EQ's can do. Upward compression, on the limiter like MV2, (the most unsung hero of all) Clarity, like Waves or Gullfoss (I Love my Foss!). Yeah, If i didn't already have 1000 dope plugins I prob start over and just by this. But I do, I can still use this. What a time to be alive. Great review as always Matty.
Being able to process the transient and sustain separately on almost every module is big. They seem like simple updates GUI-wise, but along with the stem processing that opens up a ton of possibilities
I am at a point where I already have a TON of plugins, too many in fact. BUT Izotope is now one of my main plugin vendors, including Plugin Alliance, as I've been weaning myself away from Waves for the last 2 yrs, when I retired and now only doing MUSIC! I've sometimes heard this statement,,,,,,wait till the "next version is out", not the one directly after the one you already have. I DO have Ozone 10 Advanced, and I use it in Studio One's Project Page, which is their Mastering Module, AND it is in the first position of each song I'm mastering. Great starting point. I do like the new features you mentioned. One you didn't, which I saw on an Izotope video, is the "vocal Balance" checkmark" which I think would be useful. I do have a Waves Clarity plugin which is great. Thanks for your video. I might go against that theory and buy this upgrade, as I think the upgrade features are worth $80, now on sale.
I dont think its worth the update price from Ozone 10 Advanced. Its basically the same with some new features to save bad mixes. As the upgrade price is the same for Ozone 9 and 10 owners it might make more sense to upgrade next year from 10 to 12.
@@richertz , i just received an email with an offer to upgrade for 99$. When i put it in the card it says "upgrade from august campaign". So it looks like there is an offer for people who purchased ozone 10 just last month.
@@richertzI got a discount where I only had to pay $49 for ozone 11 advanced, nectar 4 advanced and guitar rig pro 7, as I bought the everything bundle in august. Ideally would’ve been free as they’ve done this in the past but I’d say $49 isn’t bad. I believe you qualify for it if you bought it in august
Having tested both these out, for some reason 11 is getting me a better mix and I think it has something to do with "Clarity" and "Upwards compression" but just as you said, that "Impact" sucks and as for "Imager" the A.I for it is way blown out for Stereo, you MUST go into manual mode and fix it to to fit more Mono. Lastly I've been struggling to decide if Standard Clip or "Soft Clip" is better and personally I will start using Soft Clip but only on L (low) mode.
I appreciate this video! For me personally, I do not dig the over-visualization and modern looking buttons, but that's a non-issue if it doesn't affect much and it sounds good. After watching this whole video though, in my opinion, the improvements are definitely best in the stem selector and the Clarity module if it is used only when needed.
I'll be honest, when I upgraded from Ozone 9 to 10 I regretted it. I still like my results with Ozone 9 better than with Ozone 10. Even using the same settings, for some reason to my ears Ozone 9 sounds better.
I was able to upgrade from Ozone 10 Standard to 11 Standard for 50$, so for me it was extremely worth it ! Thank you for this video, it was very easy to understand, even for a beginner :)
Thanks for your review of Ozone 11 Matty and as a long time user of Ozone 9 thought I would check out the demo version of 11 and compare the results on a few previous projects. I have to admit that so far I have been somewhat underwhelmed by Ozone 11. Not only did the Master Assistant consistently get the music genre wrong but unlike the more subtle use of modules in Ozone 9 it seemed to throw the whole street of modules on each project and whilst they sounded OK were they any better than what I had achieved using Ozone 9? One other thing I noticed is that whilst the volume levels were the same in each case, the Ozone 11 version kept peaking on my levels monitor as opposed to the Ozone 9 version. I'm sure a lot of people will love this new version but I will stick with what I know in Ozone 9
You’ll probably need to wait for some updates to come out because I was having a similar problem with ozone 10 when I first got it hit once they fixed some things it got way better
Bro, I just got a 1/3rd into your vid, and just bought the upgrade. you just get to the point and don't waste time. I'll be watching all your vids heh heh.
Great demo, clear and concise. I’m still undecided of upgrading this time. I don’t only use Ozone when mastering, and often turn off and dial back a bunch it does, but there are a couple useful additions.
Run MA in Ozone 9 turn off limiter . Then bypass . Run MA in Ozone 11. Only using clarity stabilizer & limiter in 11. Now stack the 2 versions. I agree about the eq choices being too extreme. Ever since ver. 10
Thank you for this review. I am new to mastering my songs. I have a newbie question. I have upgraded from Ozone 9 Elements to 11 Advanced. Since I started to use Ozone I add it on the main mix bus of my tracks or Is it better to use it on a exported stereo track like in your review? Thanks.
Izotope hit the brick wall in V9. This isn't Mastering, it's mainly an attempt to trick you into thinking that Mastering is now Mixing and their one button gimmickry and renamed rehash of existing processes. This is what you get when your products have run out of runway, but you have to keep gouging low confidence people into thinking they need this stuff and know they won't look too deeply into the "new functions" and what a load of garbage they are. If you listen to the "stems" it produces, they are worthless, especially when you present Ozone with a complex piece of music. Also, it's not AI, it's just if/then/else pre-sets, based on a database. No real "AI" is at work here, artfully pondering over your mix and suggesting new or interesting or thoughtful changes based on anything to do with meaning or emotion or life or experience of the outer world as a whole, it's marketing BS. Deception.
Hi Matty, I was always wondering, how did you get started in music/end up engineering? I mean, what's your instrument, are you a vocalist, etc. Would love to know more about your journey.
Sounds like a good video idea haha. But basically I grew up playing drums, went to Berklee for drumming but ended up getting into the Music Production and Engineering program. Then started interning at studios and moving my way up the ladder.
Off the bus again. Ozone 5 didn’t get beat really until 9 then bought 10… mmm. 11 sounds great on the Izotope polished promo mixes but, in reality just added a bit of top end sizzle tbh and as most of our mixes go through further algorithms on uploading to you tube, etc, then feel this is probably added anyway
I really like the A/B comparison on the master assistant, is it just me or does the clarify add some strange saturation especially on the snares? I personally feel the before sounded better
Damn, your mix sounds 10 times better without Ozone's master assist on it, but it also sounds almost perfect as is. It probably doesn't make sense to AI master a professional mix like that anyway. I'm wondering how it stack with my broke as mixes and if it's actually an improvement on mediocre mixes in general.
Yah. Unfortunately, I have only gotten one session sent as a reaper session in the last 10 years. I think it's a great DAW, but everyone in LA still using slow tools. So I am as well. Although with Soundflow I think Pro Tools is prob one of the best out there for strictly mixing and mastering
@@mixedbymatty Agreed. I want to LOVE Reaper, the Idea and DAW are dope AF. Just adoption and learning curve. I still love editing audio in PT though 😍
Good overview of all the new stuff. I'm back at v9. If they have an upgrade discount I might. I decided to subscribe bc he seems to have a clear approach to what he does & explains. Personally I would never use the assistant stuff, or maybe for a laugh just to see it's original settings.
Ozone needs a "God" mode that mimics the ease of use of God Particle, especially since God Particle was based on Ozone. New features are nice. Wonder how they compare to Gullfoss and the like.
Hmmm. There’s some good new features, but it seems more like a 10.5 type upgrade than a full upgrade, to be honest. Given the leaps and bounds in AI tech (& movement towards immersive audio like Dolby Atmos) over this past year, I kinda expected a huge change in Ozone 11.
The master assist is the worst function on Ozone... it reminds me of restaurants just adding more salt to make you think the food is better. It's just too much.
I watched the whole thing and none of the changes made the track any better. It already makes a mix with loads of artefacts sound even worse. The bass is taken away every time. It sounds very digital, maybe it's the RUclips algorithm. Still, the transient / sustain thing might be useful
I mean, if people are being told to use their ears and turn off the assitant, doesn't that beat the purpose of this plug in? People can do that already with other brand equalizers, compressors, etc.
People people people...learn your tools to use the old school way. Screw these all-in-one "magic" tools. Way too many options to mess things up. Less is more anyways. IMO. BTW your mix sounds best when you bypass it. Every time.
What’s new is that support no longer exists. An AI bot that understands nothing, a “create ticket bot that never completes, this is what you are buying into, beware! Expensive without support!!!
Interesting. I've got Ozone 10 Advanced, and I'll have to admit that I often go back to Ozone 9 for mastering features. For me, Ozone 10 just wants to do too much off the bat. I was hoping Ozone 11 could be used more subtly.
Agreed.
Got much better results with Ozone 5!! The newer versions kinda suck. Maybe marketing strategy from Izotope
Simple fix: turn down the mix of ozone? Lmao. My mixes sound incredible using Ozone 10 and I just upgraded to 11.
facts I do the Same
Standalone 9: I don't need more bells and whistles for mastering, and if Izotope 'don't do' standalone anymore they won't get my upgrade money.
“Loyalty discount”
Haha, seriously. I love their products, but that discount is a complete joke. 😰
I understand they need to make money, but it feels like a bit of a slap in the face for only a 25% discount.
There's plenty of other "clarity" plugins for much less than the $200 CAD pricetag that will achieve the exact same result. 🤷♂️
Its literally cheaper to upgrade buying upgrades from 3rd party vendors, basically a joke
Nice review! I think switching to the Pop target rather than Rock would have yielded a better result with the Master Assistant
I have never used ozone assistant to master my tracks i do it from scratch and looking at this new features added am so so upgrading to ozone 11 it worth it , i just imagine what i can achieve with this new features ...DEM SO GOOD
not with that upgrade price...
Daft isn't it!
Assistant is terrible now since ozone 10, most of the time bcs of the stabilizer module.
I like ozond 9 more for the assistant more natural sounds
See Izotope is SMART AF. They incorporate the best feature from other manufacturers and place them into one box, with the option of still using the other plug ins. EG (SPLIT EQ's sustain/transient split!!) Even if it's not as detailed it's still way past what normal EQ's can do. Upward compression, on the limiter like MV2, (the most unsung hero of all) Clarity, like Waves or Gullfoss (I Love my Foss!).
Yeah, If i didn't already have 1000 dope plugins I prob start over and just by this. But I do, I can still use this. What a time to be alive. Great review as always Matty.
Being able to process the transient and sustain separately on almost every module is big. They seem like simple updates GUI-wise, but along with the stem processing that opens up a ton of possibilities
yah! I know Izotope get's a lot of hate for the AI stuff. But if you don't use that OZ11 has some really fantastic features.
Master Assistant was better in V9 than V10 which tended to completely overcook stuff...it sounds like V11 has the same issue.
facts i hate the sound of 10 compared to 9
I am at a point where I already have a TON of plugins, too many in fact. BUT Izotope is now one of my main plugin vendors, including Plugin Alliance, as I've been weaning myself away from Waves for the last 2 yrs, when I retired and now only doing MUSIC! I've sometimes heard this statement,,,,,,wait till the "next version is out", not the one directly after the one you already have. I DO have Ozone 10 Advanced, and I use it in Studio One's Project Page, which is their Mastering Module, AND it is in the first position of each song I'm mastering. Great starting point. I do like the new features you mentioned. One you didn't, which I saw on an Izotope video, is the "vocal Balance" checkmark" which I think would be useful. I do have a Waves Clarity plugin which is great. Thanks for your video. I might go against that theory and buy this upgrade, as I think the upgrade features are worth $80, now on sale.
Oh wow some incredible new features!
Great review, thank you. The stem focus is a powerful new feature.
I dont think its worth the update price from Ozone 10 Advanced. Its basically the same with some new features to save bad mixes. As the upgrade price is the same for Ozone 9 and 10 owners it might make more sense to upgrade next year from 10 to 12.
Agree - they just dont seem to give reasonable upgrade prices for those who bought recently.
@@richertz , i just received an email with an offer to upgrade for 99$. When i put it in the card it says "upgrade from august campaign". So it looks like there is an offer for people who purchased ozone 10 just last month.
@@richertzI got a discount where I only had to pay $49 for ozone 11 advanced, nectar 4 advanced and guitar rig pro 7, as I bought the everything bundle in august. Ideally would’ve been free as they’ve done this in the past but I’d say $49 isn’t bad.
I believe you qualify for it if you bought it in august
@@richertz Yeah ,jist upgraded to10 advances. It would cost me exactly equal price to go up to 11. I'll wait for ozone 12 as well.
@@mygoogle1525 Me too! Seems that iZotope are now using NIs terrible pricing model!
By ozone v20 it will: write, produce, mix and master for you! Sit at the couch and enjoy! Not against AI but mastering is more than that!
Its chosen rock instead of the pop preset. That's why its so loud and upfront, You should've changed it 2 pop so it can match the song better.
Having tested both these out, for some reason 11 is getting me a better mix and I think it has something to do with "Clarity" and "Upwards compression" but just as you said, that "Impact" sucks and as for "Imager" the A.I for it is way blown out for Stereo, you MUST go into manual mode and fix it to to fit more Mono. Lastly I've been struggling to decide if Standard Clip or "Soft Clip" is better and personally I will start using Soft Clip but only on L (low) mode.
I appreciate this video! For me personally, I do not dig the over-visualization and modern looking buttons, but that's a non-issue if it doesn't affect much and it sounds good.
After watching this whole video though, in my opinion, the improvements are definitely best in the stem selector and the Clarity module if it is used only when needed.
I still have 9 Advanced
I'll be honest, when I upgraded from Ozone 9 to 10 I regretted it. I still like my results with Ozone 9 better than with Ozone 10. Even using the same settings, for some reason to my ears Ozone 9 sounds better.
Have you tried doing a null test? Might be placebo you never know. Not everything is changed between versions might be worth looking at
I was able to upgrade from Ozone 10 Standard to 11 Standard for 50$, so for me it was extremely worth it !
Thank you for this video, it was very easy to understand, even for a beginner :)
great review and comparison, thanks
I use Ozone 10 Standard. TBH I only use the "LUFS learn" tool and the Match EQ. I don't use the Assistant, because I could never get it to sound good.
Thanks for your review of Ozone 11 Matty and as a long time user of Ozone 9 thought I would check out the demo version of 11 and compare the results on a few previous projects. I have to admit that so far I have been somewhat underwhelmed by Ozone 11. Not only did the Master Assistant consistently get the music genre wrong but unlike the more subtle use of modules in Ozone 9 it seemed to throw the whole street of modules on each project and whilst they sounded OK were they any better than what I had achieved using Ozone 9? One other thing I noticed is that whilst the volume levels were the same in each case, the Ozone 11 version kept peaking on my levels monitor as opposed to the Ozone 9 version. I'm sure a lot of people will love this new version but I will stick with what I know in Ozone 9
You’ll probably need to wait for some updates to come out because I was having a similar problem with ozone 10 when I first got it hit once they fixed some things it got way better
Bro, I just got a 1/3rd into your vid, and just bought the upgrade. you just get to the point and don't waste time. I'll be watching all your vids heh heh.
master chain about to sauce up real soon
Thank You! Excellent overview.
Glad it was helpful!
Great demo, clear and concise. I’m still undecided of upgrading this time. I don’t only use Ozone when mastering, and often turn off and dial back a bunch it does, but there are a couple useful additions.
great video Matty!
Glad you enjoyed it
Run MA in Ozone 9 turn off limiter . Then bypass . Run MA in Ozone 11. Only using clarity stabilizer & limiter in 11. Now stack the 2 versions. I agree about the eq choices being too extreme. Ever since ver. 10
It completely ruined your mix
Definitely not upgrading from 10 for that price. Maybe for $59 I would.
It's on sale now (March 2024) for a $75 upgrade.
I also noticed in the last 2 versions the master assistant going completely wack. And it's rarely even near compared to before.
Thank you for this review. I am new to mastering my songs. I have a newbie question. I have upgraded from Ozone 9 Elements to 11 Advanced. Since I started to use Ozone I add it on the main mix bus of my tracks or Is it better to use it on a exported stereo track like in your review? Thanks.
You could do either or. I personally prefer to render my tracks and master them separately.
Izotope hit the brick wall in V9. This isn't Mastering, it's mainly an attempt to trick you into thinking that Mastering is now Mixing and their one button gimmickry and renamed rehash of existing processes. This is what you get when your products have run out of runway, but you have to keep gouging low confidence people into thinking they need this stuff and know they won't look too deeply into the "new functions" and what a load of garbage they are. If you listen to the "stems" it produces, they are worthless, especially when you present Ozone with a complex piece of music. Also, it's not AI, it's just if/then/else pre-sets, based on a database. No real "AI" is at work here, artfully pondering over your mix and suggesting new or interesting or thoughtful changes based on anything to do with meaning or emotion or life or experience of the outer world as a whole, it's marketing BS. Deception.
Hi Matty, I was always wondering, how did you get started in music/end up engineering? I mean, what's your instrument, are you a vocalist, etc. Would love to know more about your journey.
Sounds like a good video idea haha. But basically I grew up playing drums, went to Berklee for drumming but ended up getting into the Music Production and Engineering program. Then started interning at studios and moving my way up the ladder.
@@mixedbymatty a fellow drummer turned engineer then, fantastic! Will be looking forward to the video if you decide to make it.
Off the bus again. Ozone 5 didn’t get beat really until 9 then bought 10… mmm. 11 sounds great on the Izotope polished promo mixes but, in reality just added a bit of top end sizzle tbh and as most of our mixes go through further algorithms on uploading to you tube, etc, then feel this is probably added anyway
I really like the A/B comparison on the master assistant, is it just me or does the clarify add some strange saturation especially on the snares? I personally feel the before sounded better
Not Just saturation but uses something that sounds like an agressiva transient designer which generate some weird "pumpyish" artifacts
Yah like I said anything above 20 ( and that's pushing it) gets strange
I love this song. Where can I listen to it?
My question is, do the stems have artifacts? No artifact shall be the explicit goal of such a program as the separation tool.
What you think about the LANDR Ai 🤖 Mastering Plugin vs the one in Ozone 11 ?
Damn, your mix sounds 10 times better without Ozone's master assist on it, but it also sounds almost perfect as is. It probably doesn't make sense to AI master a professional mix like that anyway. I'm wondering how it stack with my broke as mixes and if it's actually an improvement on mediocre mixes in general.
Just a friendly reminder that you have delta mode on everything already if you're a reaper user
Yah. Unfortunately, I have only gotten one session sent as a reaper session in the last 10 years. I think it's a great DAW, but everyone in LA still using slow tools. So I am as well. Although with Soundflow I think Pro Tools is prob one of the best out there for strictly mixing and mastering
@@mixedbymatty Agreed. I want to LOVE Reaper, the Idea and DAW are dope AF. Just adoption and learning curve. I still love editing audio in PT though 😍
Good overview of all the new stuff. I'm back at v9. If they have an upgrade discount I might.
I decided to subscribe bc he seems to have a clear approach to what he does & explains.
Personally I would never use the assistant stuff, or maybe for a laugh just to see it's original settings.
Matty is str8 up. Cheers.
Clarity reminds me of Gullfoss?
I think Stabilizer is much closer
Haven't tried Ozone 11 yet, but Noveltech Vocal Enhancer from Plugin Alliance seems very similar to "clarity" at first glance.
The upgrade price is the same as buying it new, so it's a pass for me.
If they actually offered a good loyalty discount then yet it would be worth it. They are charging too much for the upgrade in my opinion
Where’s the ceiling in maximizer ?
It’s called Output Level now, it’s in the panel on the left of the maximizer
@@billpodolak7754 thanks bro
This standard or advanced
Is this the 11 advanced or standard version?
the master assistant sounds too harsh, like it's a breath away from clipping and made the mix blown out
Ozone needs a "God" mode that mimics the ease of use of God Particle, especially since God Particle was based on Ozone. New features are nice. Wonder how they compare to Gullfoss and the like.
I need plugin but not money sir😢
Hmmm. There’s some good new features, but it seems more like a 10.5 type upgrade than a full upgrade, to be honest.
Given the leaps and bounds in AI tech (& movement towards immersive audio like Dolby Atmos) over this past year, I kinda expected a huge change in Ozone 11.
i wait to 2024 aug get it for the low
Does it really go cheaper on august?
damn right new one be out then @@ProjectHMF
The master assist is the worst function on Ozone... it reminds me of restaurants just adding more salt to make you think the food is better. It's just too much.
Is this better than the stableizer
I watched the whole thing and none of the changes made the track any better. It already makes a mix with loads of artefacts sound even worse. The bass is taken away every time. It sounds very digital, maybe it's the RUclips algorithm. Still, the transient / sustain thing might be useful
I think the stem separation feature is amazing. Just gotta use your ears and not the algorithm and this plugin is killer
Thanks@@mixedbymatty Will give it a shot when I can get the demo!
Thats right, use your Ears and set the Assistance to off. Your Mix was 100 times better Matty ✨😋 Anyway Thanks for the Video 👍
I mean, if people are being told to use their ears and turn off the assitant, doesn't that beat the purpose of this plug in? People can do that already with other brand equalizers, compressors, etc.
Is it worth $149 if you have Ozone 10?
If u really want clarity and the transient/sustain split you can consider it
Maybe an old question - but - do you do masters for clients?
Yes! Just check my site
is this from standard or advanced version?
Advanced
Assistant is terrible.
People people people...learn your tools to use the old school way. Screw these all-in-one "magic" tools. Way too many options to mess things up. Less is more anyways. IMO. BTW your mix sounds best when you bypass it. Every time.
What’s new is that support no longer exists. An AI bot that understands nothing, a “create ticket bot that never completes, this is what you are buying into, beware! Expensive without support!!!
Too much phasy artifacts with AI modules here🤷🏼♂️
Man that track is so good. Surprised he's not big time. He's got talent too and can play.
Trip Carter is the man!!
Thx for that reply, was trying to show it to someone, couldn't remember so looked up your channel again and boom...!@@mixedbymatty