Tibet is a land of mystery and richness that, unfortunately, not many people know about. Hopefully this clears up some of the confusion. Music provided by: / stone_ocean
@@kumisz2 But missed important details. He said Nepal was part of Tibet when nepali girl married tibetan prince. It isnt like that. Nepali king married his daughter with tibetan prince to just improve relations but he said Nepal,Bangladesh and Bhutan were part of tibet when it clearly wasnt. Infact Tibet never even touched worlds ocean soo if a big channel does things like that, new generations will take that seriously and think in different way. If you want to make a country history video, make it longer including all big details
@@siddharthtiwari8125 it's not easy to meet him Very high security N Ticket is very costly N Only vip can go Normal people like us can't go easily But u can see him during tibetian festivals
As a Chinese, I say this is one of the best Tibet explained in English. Tibet is a little bit like Scotland, a nation but not a country, British want Tibet to be free but refuse to accept Scotland independence. In the name of freedom and democracy, British can do whatever they want. As one of those so called war wolf Chinese boy, I want my government to announce loudly: we support Scotland freedom, and we will defend Scotland freedom with force, all for freedom and democracy. I love these bullshit slogans. Don’t get me wrong, freedom and democracy are great things, unless someone use them as weapons to attack and invade. Please stop hurting innocent in the name of freedom and democracy.
@@abbotsful Referendum? In Scotland? Same as the Catalan referendum in Spain? I recall 92% voted yes and Spanish government just ignored it. Referendum is a joke, even if it passes, the queen would claim it as unconstitutional. Referendum only works when the result satisfying the government, otherwise it is fantasy. Great but useless. U.S. is an example, people can only choose either Biden or Trump, yes Americans can choose, but whichever they vote for, US government is satisfied. If Chinese chairman has 2 son, he will play democracy game one day: all Chinese can vote for the next chairman: his elder son or younger son, or himself to serve longer. See, we have 3 options, when American has 2. Which will make China more democracy than US. I believe democracy is great, useless but great. You may say: we have this great thing called referendum , you don’t, it is useless, but at least we have it. Good for you.
@@gayvideos3808 there has been significant migration but thank you I stand corrected, the population proportion you stated is correct. Possibly all the more reason the COC will never allow Tibetans the right to vote and decide their own future.
California was a territory of land ruled by the Mexican Government. California was never its own country. The territory clamed independence from the Mexican Government and took to America in hope of it becoming a state. The land never was its own country and never will be. Case closed.
@@petepetersen5418 Catalonia is now a region in Spain that was once a nation that was conquered by the Castilles an annexed into the Spanish crown ...it has it's own language and customs .... Barvaria is a catholic region of Germany which probably is closer to Austria culturally but still German , as is Austria .... Hawaii is an island nation that was invaded, occupied and annexed by the US. Done.
@@PatriotMapper That's makes completely jo sense that would make any ethnic Chinese group a part of a different nation. I'm a min Chinese one of the major 7 and we don't consider ourselves a nation.
i dont think so, more likely youtube's archetype algorythm assigned to you has "tibetian content" as a highly potential interest topic for your brain, and most likely the reason why you brought this topic to your buddy. In other words youtube ushered you to be interested in this topic, and then put this content in front of you.
There's thins theory of 0. fielf. Plants and smartphones can take sounds, images and even thoughts, translate them into a 0 and 1 code by passing the information through this 0. field and give a command to the device. Basically, your phone can listen to you and read your mind. Creepy, isn't it? The government could control our lives like this.
This was a surprisingly succinct and accurate video of the history of Tibet. As a Tibetan, I'd like to say kudos on this video. You really laid out the facts objectively. p.s. Qing is pronounced Ching not King.
That’s so good to hear! I was worried about how this would be received. Initially I included a lot more history but the video got way too long. Also I realized afterwards that I mispronounced Qing, reading a whole script is hard somethings :P thanks for watching!
@@eviltoms Nepal invaded Tibet during the Qing Dynasty. Tibet looked to Beijing for help and the Qing Dynasty warded off the Gorkha / Gurkha invaders. Still can't believe that the Qing Chinese managed to defeat battle hardened Gurkhas!
Lol Scotland is definitely a country while Quebec is not, so research well before making statements. While Quebec is a country or not is open to speculation but including a place that is already a country weakens your point.
I am from Nepal and I do not think Tibet ever ruled Nepal thru a marriage (or by many other means). It is true, however, that a princess of Nepal, named Bhrikuti, married a king in Tibet and with herself brought Buddhism to Tibet from Nepal.
True, in Fact Tibet was actually a part of Nepal at some point in History. Also, India, Pakistan, Bhutan, Sri Lanka, as far as the entire continent of Asia was actually Nepal. Go ask your Prime Minister Mr. KP Oli.
It might have been worthwhile to mention how many important rivers in Asia begin in the Tibetan plateau making control of the region far more strategically essential to the nations in the regions than the presence of valuable minerals would suggest.
It might have been worthwhile to mention tibetan have been living under serfdom for thousands of years till CCP liberated them in 1951. Maybe those westerners yelling free tibet would augue that it's their free will to live as serfs.
Hawaii fought harder for independence than Tibet did. They united under a monarchy and tried hard to modernise their institutions. Tibet bought some rifles.
@@bharatgao1435 Whataboutisms don't make Tibet any less of a ENTIRELY LEGITIMATE CHINESE TERRITORY. That being said, yes us "westerners" have a long list of nations and cultures we've screwed over metaphorically and quite often literally. As the saying goes though, two wrongs don't make a WESTERN LIE.
The bigger question is, if western definition of "country" applies to Tibet, or even China as a whole? China being a multi-ethnic country, has many ethnic groups with unique cultures and religions, inhabiting in certain regions of China. Allowing Tibet to break out, is the starting point of dismantling China. Multi ethnicity/culture/religion is not unique to China, many other countries should be torn apart: United Kingdom does not make sense, India is an obvious victim and Native Americans/Australians/Canadians deserves their own government within the respective territories.
Honestly as a ethics minority of china, china need to stop being greedy and let those ethics people have their own country. They have their own religion, culture, language and people.
Right like majority they r talking sht bout han people. Yet they say Chinese cuz when they hate n all that they r hating the other 55 ethnic groups as well bc they r also Chinese
im sure Republic of China claims china proper (ofc), tibet, xinjiang, mongolia (both inner and outer), and manchuria (including outer, which is controlled by russia)
One thing I have to say, literally Taiwan has pretty much similar culture, language and history like China , they used to be a part of China, until the conflict of Communist Party and Kuomingtang, for some reasons, some group of Taiwanese wants to be independent, however, another group of them wants to go back to China or keep their current situation until now, I've heard a lot of Taiwanese, they claimed that they are originally Chinese, I'm NOT joking, they believe they are Chinese, so, it is kind of a complex topic to deny which of group is right or wrong, same way as Tibet, but now most people think Tibet is part of China, as same as Xingjiang, and Inner Mongolia.
Modern Mongolia is only so small because that's the portion that broke free went communist rather than joining the original ROC in 1911 when the Qing dynasty's rule ended. More mongolians live in China than in Mongolia by far.
In the Qing Dynasty, there were Qing outposts and troops stationed on the border between Tibet and India You tell me that Tibet is ruled by the Dalai Lama??China first officially ruled Tibet in the Yuan Dynasty. Later, became a tributary state in Ming dynasty. Later, the Qing Dynasty regained it.
Well to be as neutral as I can, Tibet has been like a colony of Qing since about 300 years ago. They placed a general there that had higher power than the lama kings. Kinda like how India was a country but still under British raj's rule. When the Qing crumbled in 1911, the republic (ROC) replacing it didn't have enough power and attention to keep Tibet under occupation, so it sorta became functionally independent. But ROC still claimed to have sovereignty over it, and because ROC was a western ally, nobody would recognize Tibet as independent from China. And what happened after PRC you are all familiar with. So I think the Hawaii comparison is actually pretty good. If the Hawaiian royalty were still around and took refuge in another country, and the US was suppressing Hawaiian's freedom of religion, you would see people carrying Free Hawaii flags around too. So the real problem is not whether China is the "legitimate" owner of Tibet, but whether they treat the Tibetans nicely.
The most non-biased comment here. At least you're not an obnoxious pro-Tibet person. They are illiterate with history. Even when Tibet claimed to be independent, it is debatable on how much of a country it really was. Considering that it lacked recognition. Just as you mentioned, the ROC still claimed it. The League of Nations also recognized it as apart of China. That doesn't mean what China is doing to Tibetans is right still. Nor does it justify what actions China has done to Tibet. While the PRC has a very harsh relationship with Tibet, the ROC's relationship wasn't much peaceful either. They went to war two times with Tibet. But the ROC didn't take extreme meassures on Tibet or Tibetans. Anyway, well said.
I couldn't have said it better myself. The only thing I'd add is that the more people advocate for Tibetan independence, the harder it's going to be on the people living in Tibet. There's no realistic chance of independence in the near future but the insecurity that independence sentiment fosters leads to distrust and oppression by the authorities regarding the people.
@@alanfriesen9837 There is no way the Tibetans can get independence, if China step out due to some magical event, India would step in. Their population is too low, they have virtually zero industry to defend themselves, and they're sitting on a place that is the origin of all the rivers that provide water for 40% of the world's population.
@@u06jo3vmp While I also agree that Tibet isn't going to get independence though I don't think it's because of a threat from India. Those mountains are a hell of a barrier and I don't think India has the capacity to project power through them. An independent Tibet would definitely be under constant pressure from India, China, Thailand, Myanmar, Bangladesh, Cambodia and Vietnam regarding water supplies but the only one of those countries that could sustain a presence in Tibet is the one that's already there.
China will never let Tibet secede if it can help it. All of China’s freshwater flows from there. Its a national security concern. It’s vertical integration.
that is why tibet needs to grab its destiny and see freedom of its former independent glorious history. vietnam has done it, and perhaps taiwan should also start shaping up... perhaps even manchuria and uyghuristan should stop getting itself be displaced and acculturated. even mongol areas... but alas prc is like ottoman kebab of old
xXxSkyViperxXx maybe if China collapses. But I think that independence will be short lived. Geography penned them in with a vastly more powerful and populous people who will always want to conquer them.
xXxSkyViperxXx and it was repeatedly invaded then subjugated. And if China doesn’t manage it India will. You’re a strategically important region bordering almost 3 billion people but you have basically 0 gdp. Bad place to be.
Tibet was a nation in the history. and in fact many of you don't know, Tibet was a threat to the Xin Jiang, and other regions to the middle earth. There was a powerful empire called Tangut empire that ruled Tibet and part of Xin Jiang. During Tang and Song Dynasty, Tangut kept on invading the Tang and Song, and in fact Tang and Song was the side that being invaded and tried to counter attack. This is due to the lack of natural resources in Tibet. Tea is essential. Tea is so important in the daily lives of a Tibetan, because there are not much vegetables you can consume in Tibet, Tibetan people eat beef and drink milk, and vegetable is very rare food for them, even until now, fruits and vegetables are still expensive in Tibet, but of course way better than it was in the past. And Tea can be stored for a long time and it produces crucial nutrients for health, that is why the Tibetan Tangut Empire attempted so many times to invade Tang and Song, because they need tea farms. The wars between the Tang Song Dynasty against the Tibetan Tangut, was easy on the plain, but when it comes to counter attack on the Tangut empires cities, it is difficult due to the altitude sickness, people from the eastern part of China cant handle this when they enter Tibet. and thats what made Tibetan Tangut always a threat that is so difficult to get rid of. and in fact the Tang and Song had no interest for Tibetan lands because they are agricultural nations and it is the Tibet area is not suitable for agricultural economy. But Mongolian eventually destroyed the Tibetan Tangut Empire, and was ruled directly as a province, then the Ming Dynasty replaced the Mongol empire, the Tibet also surrendered to the Ming, but Ming never rule Tibet directly, so it basically remain politically isolated but not economically , the leading body in Tibet acknowledged the Ming emperor as their emperor, else Ming will cut off their tribute relations and the tradings, which is crucial to the Tibetan' survival. (in the tribute system, the tribute state actually earns more than the side who receive the tributes, because the emperor must rewards them more silks, teas, and porcelains in return, thats why many neightbouring nations actually volunteerily to be a tribunal state of China. Then Qing dynasty came, they sent officers to rule Tibet together with the monks, because the Qing dynasty realized the ambitions of British from the another side of Himalayas. The british wants to take over the Tibet. and even after Qing, the threat is not over, but the enemy changed from the brits to the indians. President Nehru's forward policy is too dangerous, India conquered many small and weak nations and they targeted Tibet. and the conflict between China and India still continues today. its all started with the McMahon line, the brits simply drew a line on the map and claimed it was the border line because their army can reach there.
You;'re wrong, the Tanguts were a qiangic tribe,plus they only rebelled against Song in 986, although they had established control over Northern Shaanxi since the late 800s. They never controlled Xinjiang, only half of Gansu, Ningxia, and what is now parts of Inner Mongolia
Interesting, India used to be bigger than today as well, but now....why nobody make a video for them, or other disputed countries, but always love focusing on China, because their size? or just don't like them? racist?
Is Tibet a country? Yes, it was! Is Crimea a country? Yes, it was! Is Kosova a country? No, it never was :( So it isn't about whether something is right or wrong, it's about whether it fits US or not :P
This video ignores the slavery and cruel punishments that existed in Tibet in the 1950s (including amputation and the trade of human skin and bones). Those who are interested can take a look at the laws under the rule of the Tibetan Buddhist government at that time. To the monks and nobles at the time, the People’s Liberation Army might be the enemy, but to the slaves it might be the opposite.
I am sikkimese and if you people don't attack us we were still kingdom india is birthplace of budhhism so we lived happily here if we go china , we loose our culture
if Tibet is a country , what about india？ in india there are so many place where the people use the different language have differrent culture and they never been governed by India but British. So India shall not be a country , it shall be many countries.
i think our state of INDIA , Sikkim was a part of Tibet because our king was tibetan.....and here in sikkim there are so many tibetan monastries . And population is little bit more nepali but Tibetan is dominant nd our culture is mixed.....
Yes, eastern part of India was Tibetan one day. but we all people on earth are homosapiens (human being).this is only human species on earth live today
I've been to Sikkim and its beautiful, People who are not from India needs to understand one basis point that India is a pluralistic society which gives freedom. Sikhism was born here so was buddhism and jainism so India is land of culture and freedom. Those who talk about Kashmir should understand that Kashmir was given its autonomy but then we have a bad neighbour Pakistan which believes in religion above everything. If India would have thought that in the past there would have been no other religions in India which were branched from hinduism like sikhism and jainism.
@LonelyMan Rabby I'm bengali and i can say sikkim has nothing to do with bengal. It has been a mountain kingdom which chose to become part of India. Bengalis need to stop trying to appropriate everything. They have their fair share to brag about. Underplaying their neighbors won't do a thing to elevate them.
This is actually one of his less good videos. I'll agree his content has gotten much better in recent years and he's an amazing RUclipsr, but this video is old and poor quality. The history and the map were both partially wrong. He didn't include parts of western Tibet which were part of the Tibetan Empire, and also Tibet never controlled Nepal through conquest _or_ marriage. Also, he claimed Ando and Kham are not usually associated with Tibetan independence, but this is absolutely false. Kham and Amdo are also inhabited by Tibetans, just like U-Tsang, and they want independence too (Although, granted, Amdo does have an increasing growing Chinese population). In the end though, _all_ Tibetans want to form a greater Tibetan country. And while the Dalai Lama may insist "Tibet belongs to China," he does this out of fear. If he advocates for a free Tibet, he could start independence revolts in China, as the Tibetan people are devoutly religious and see him as their leader, exiled or not, and they would follow his word. If he did this, the Chinese government would almost certainly assassinate him in India. Atlas Pro had good intentions making this video, but he didn't quite have all his facts straight when making it.
@@zaraiwzara Oh great another Chinese troll. I used to think the CCP was the evil at the heart of China. But based off all you commenters saying that Tibetans and Uighurs and Inner Mongolians don't deserve independence... it makes me wonder if the Chinese people themselves are the true evil. How could you be so cruel to deny them freedom? How could you be so cruel as to sit back and watch as your government strips them of their culture and religion? That's not ok. :/ And anyone with any common sense should understand what I say is true. The Dalai Lama advocates for peace. It is part of his religion. So, naturally he would be against fighting for independence. But that shouldn't exclude him from supporting a peaceful independence. So why doesn't he? Obviously he has been scared away from it. And who else would scare him but China? Perhaps not *all* Tibetans want independence, but certainly a majority do. That is what I meant by that. Unfortunately it is hard to get an exact number though because China would not allow such a poll of the population to be done. Go figure :/
@@daltonmiller5590 It’s incredibly sad to hear the amount of monasteries destroyed just in Tibet by the Chinese. It breaks my heart. We’ll never have that part of history ever again.
Nepal was not under tibet in any time period of history. Tsongten Gampo married to daughter of king of Nepal Bhrikuti and she was the one who spread buddhism in tibet. This has been taught in schools of Nepal since many generations. Maybe you should dig out more information about it.
Nischal Kattel just coz they teach that propaganda in Nepal’s school to praise their own, it doesn’t make it a fact. You really think people who live in northern parts of the Nepal are Nepali? They are actually Tibetan descendants. Get your facts right!
And where have i said they are not tibetan descendants. It doesnt matter if they are tibetan descendants or chinese descendants. If they have Nepalese citizenship, they are Nepali.
In school we were taught that reason for the marriage is for keeping good relationship between nation. But we were not taught that Bhrikuti flourish Buddhism in Tibet. That time there is Buddhism already in Tibet. It was padmasambava who had made wide flourish of Buddhism in Tibet.
Manchuria, Xinjiang, Qinghai, and Tibet were the administrative district called Amban under Qing. Other regions are called Provinces and Banner. Dalai Lama as a principality controls the northern Tibet, whereas Panchen Lama and his court controlled the southern part. Both are subordinated to the Ambon governor. After dynasty collapsed, 13th Dalai Lama usurped 9th Panchen Lama’s court and fiefdom, and forced him into exile. After kicking out Panchen and Republic Amban, Dalai Lama become sole ruler of Tibet Amban. Current Dalai Lama claims another Amban Qinghai/Amdo which was established by Qing in 1725.
The Chinese Nation was that which was inside the Great wall. You are confusing Mongolian, Tibetan and Uyghur "Barbarian" lands as yours. Sun Wu Kong's Journey to the East mentions these lands, Clearly this is not China. Even in the story it is mentioned as "Foreign Lands".
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Western people always say and think the dumbest stuff about anyplace outside Europe and North America. It's a lot less stress to just ignore everything they say, and maybe gently remind them they have no idea what they are talking about.
@@thejword4279 the purpose of CIA is to create havoc around the world. CIA has no purpose of existing except when the world is in chaos, then they'll create a sense that these forces are against Americans.
The Nepali princess Bhrikuti is called GreenTara and the Chinese princess WenChin as WhiteTara. These two ladies are worshipped as goddess consort. They brought Buddhism to Tibet.
Pabin Gurung you're right, modern Nepal as in Nepal with the political boundaries of today didn't exist then. But the name 'Nepal' has been around for much much longer than just the past 200 or so years since the country's formation. Some scholars say it's derived from a kirat word and others have other theories. When Prithvi Narayan Shah invaded Kathmandu valley, the valley was referred to as Nepal, which is why Newari is known as Nepal bhasa(Nepali is a different language). Also why the king's army were called Gorkhalis and not Nepalis at the time. Regardless, when people think of Chinese and Nepalese, they think of today's China and Nepal. China(as a country) didn't have the same territory as it does today in all of its history either so the same logic can be applied to Nepal too. The kingdom Bhrikuti was from might not have been called Nepal but China's name is a fairly recent one too(came from the Qing dynasty). Either way, what is of importance is what kind of influence they had on the ruler of Tibet, Princess Bhrikuti introduced Indo-Nepali culture while Princess WenCheng introduced Chinese culture to the ruler and the Kingdom.
According to his definition, American should pack their bags and go back to Europe, cause the land of called America today belongs to the native Indian. While we here, please remember the "Thanksgiving day" the day when European explorer arrived exhausted from their exploration ship, the native Indian treated them with foods, fresh water and shelter; while the European occupier after exploration the land, found gold and silver and fur commodities, replied to the native Indian with kindness, yup with bullets, massacre and genocide driving them to the east coast. Also we forget, killing all the wild bison deprive the native Indian of food source and salted their land so corn and potato hardly grow
Native Americans should also be accounted for as a country. Territory check, Descent check, History Check, Culture check. So Native Americans definitely should build their own country. Nation Check.
As a Nepali we really love tibet🇳🇵🇳🇵🇳🇵 Much of our mountain folks speak the language and follow its culture We are home to Mt Everest and the birth place of Buddha 🙏🙏🙏
@Bhum Brahmavira I believe India, Nepal and Tibet share the same mother. Here, in India, we consider them as our brothers. We have a rich culture and beliefs in each other. Talking about border disputes, that's nothing in front of our similarities. More or less, we have one of the greatest open borders so those borders are just of a namesake. Political disputes do not make anyone enemy. That's same as two brothers. They sometimes quarrel but nevertheless, they are brothers. I appreciate your answer and concern. And, as an Indian, I'm really sorry for any unrest between our countries. I know this is only a matter of time, I've too read a lot about "a part of" Chinese creating discomfort for the people not just in India but in Nepal and Tibet too tho China is a great country that shares a lot from us. I hope we all stand together soon.
@cITRIC ACId china helped the communist party of nepal when it was in the brink of collapse. thats why the nepalese govt has become a tool for xi jing ping to use. some private schools in nepal have started teaching mandarin and china pays for it.. nepal is going to be next tibet since it falls under china's 5 sister territory.
I have heard stories of Tibet, and my garo ancestors are believed to have migrated from Tibet to India, other than that I didn't know anything about Tibet, it is interesting to know about Tibet.
@@tenzinsherap136 Must it be Tibetan land? Why is it destined to be Tibetan land? The determination of the territory is determined through wars, conquests, international treaties, and treaties between nations. It doesn't matter who lives on this land, North America was originally the land where indigenous peoples have lived for generations! It belongs to white people now.From ancient times to the present, the territory has been constantly changing. This land has been inhabited by dozens of ethnic groups including Qiang, Tibetan, Hui, Mongolian, etc. Why should it be Tibetan land?
When the words like "invade" and "conquer" and "perpetrated atrocities" are included in a description, I kinda have to conclude- Yeah, it was a nation.
but from Tang dynasty, the ruler of Tibet has recognized as a vassal state of China until Qing dynasty,especially in QING, the Dalai Rama must obtain the edict from the Qing emperor or it is illegal .and in the period of Republic of China, because of the early civil war and the late Japanese invade war and the civil war between nationalist party and communist party, the Tibet got chance to not comply with the rule in thousand years. So, the new gov of China is just make Tibet do the thing he should do.
@@montieluckett7036 but it has more than 1300 years..., and in Qing, it has actually become a part of China, the Qing emperor also would send a minister to control the real power.., dalai rama just be a symbol....
So can I say the Califonia is a nation? Does every single state in U.S. is a nation? Because in the U.S. land, we can also find the words like "inbade" and "conquer" was happended.
Songtsen Gampo never occupied Nepal. Nepal's king at that time, Anshuverma, married his daughter, Bhrikuti, to Songtsen Gampo. And kept his army out of Nepal. Bhrikuti is the reason Buddhism spread in Tibet. Edit- At least thats what we were taught in school.
Nepali princess Queen Bhrikuti's son was the crown prince who unfortunately died young. So, by default Chinese princess WenChin's son became the king after SrongTson Gampo. Thus Tibet became closer to north-east than south-west. Otherwise history would have been different.
Nepal has a long history of relationship with tibet and was never part of china, nepalese student even have history lesson in social studies subject about the marriage of a nepalese princess with the king of Tibet..
In 2019,the Tibetan population was 6 282 187,the Uighur population was 10 069 346. If Tibet and Xinjiang are in the west of US, the Tibetans and Uighur are almost extinct.
I have a fun little fact concerning the 14th Dalai Lama, my teacher (Mister Jean-Marie Jolidon) is a well-known Swiss Photographer, he loves culture et photography (of course) and his friend is the INTERPRETE of the actual Dalai Lama, it's something that made me think "Okay, so that's an avenger's level legend"
@@user-ph4lj1xt2o Its obvious that english isnt your first language but I got a bit of that, I got in from the airport in Qinghai and then took road trip from Qinghai, through Nagqu and Ngari. Then left by going to Kashmir
Tibet is a nation, it is not a country however. Those are two very different things! A nation has its own culture, history and language but it does not have to be an independent entity. A country in the other hand, is an independent entity.
By your definitions of what a country should be, half the nations in the world could split up. Many have pockets of people who are distinctly different from the majority. There are not many countries that are completely homogenous
5:29 dude, they rebelled. Some high ranking monks didnt wanna be under china. So they rebelled. And he had to flee because they rebelled under his name. Tough luck.
It was mainly the poor, the middle class, monks, nuns and other lay people who revolted for decades. The elite and the clergies actually loved the idea of communism, just like the elites of many other parts of the world, until the brutal genocide of Tibetans. That's when the clergy and the elites saw what communism actually was.
@@eJohndoe genocide? Dude, if there was a genocide, tibetan would be extinct now. Do google about tutsi hutu genocide, armenian genocide, yews genocide. Thats what genocide is, they eliminate particular group of people from particular area. Since theres still lots of tibetan in tibet, there were never a genocide. Come now, dont be a sheeple. At least learn the definition of the word genocide.
@@eleethtahgra7182 Well, of the systematic and targetted killings of over a million Tibetans since the forced illegal occupation of Tibet by China isn't a genocide, then I don't know what is. It's you who should actually learn the definition.
@@eleethtahgra7182 Watch the interviews with Jamyang Norbu. I know you're a proud Chinese, but there's a lot more to Tibet than you hear from the Global Times and CGTN. ruclips.net/user/ANDmagazinevideos
@@eJohndoe Dude, if a population rebelled, theres gonna be death. Even usa n britain werent spared such fate. And if they could deliberately kill the tibetans, why stop now? ruclips.net/video/3WetplXVVUo/видео.html Bunch of tibetans there, why stop? < by China isn't a genocide, then I don't know what is. > en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_definitions No it isnt since tibetans are still around, their culture are still around. You wanna know whats a genocide? Yews genocide by nazi, armenian by ottoman, native american by usa govt back then, tutsi by hutu in rwanda. Thats genocide.
@HoiNam Superior Southern Chinese there is a reason why it is called sino-tibetan. the languages of myanmar and bhutan are technically part of the tibetan branch in that family yet they are not part of china. sino-tibetan is like indo-european or malayo-polynesian, yet all those are not ruled by a single overarching country
@HoiNam Superior Southern Chinese If you love your country so much fuck off youtube and stop breaking your own countries laws you hypocritical piece of shit.
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The Dalai Lama and the Panchen Lama ruled Tibet, and the emperor ruled the Dalai Lama and the Panchen Lama. It was originally a very simple matter. Tibet is an autonomous province of China， for 700 years. The British invaded Tibet from India, and the weakness of the Qing empire complicated the situation, and China's communism and the Cold War made the situation even more complicated. Tibet will not be completely independent from China, and China will not allow Tibet to become independent. Tibet cannot be without the economic support of mainland China, and China cannot be dragged away from the control of the source of the two mother rivers. Tibet's independence will only plunge Tibet and mainland China into unprecedented disasters. The 14th Dalai Lama knew it very well.
You are a shameless liar.China's Qing Empire invaded and illegally militarily occupied Tibet in 1725, when there was no British threat whatsoever. When the Qing Empire collapsed, the Tibetans seized the opportunity and immediately declared their restoration. However the new Chinese regime still tried to re-annex it. Then we have the communist invasion in 1950. As a Chinese, I don't recognize China's sovereignty towards Tibet, and would never.
Atlas Pro, if Tibet is a country as you mentioned, mind if you can share with me the nations under United Nations recognise tibet as a sovereign state for academic purposes
Come on why did you include my home Nagaland into old Tibet map.. we Nagas and other north eastern state of India were never part of any empire before the British colonisation
Eastern himalayan ranges starting from arunachal pradesh to the arakkan mountains in myanmar, is actually the land cultural division between indian and chinese zones in east.. Though till 1900's the area was predominently tribal with animistic indegenious culture, they all are Christians now, due to british conquest of the land.... A narrow christian belt in between buddhist - Hindu/muslim majority area... The future of that area is uncertain, as christian population is not comfortable in a predominent hindu country, the same way india and pakistan got seperated, added to that the tribalism is still a major factor on these areas, which makes them not trusting and atleast some times hating other indians, and are not mingling together in general. Some groups even fight armed struggle for freedom.. Seems like india is hindu after all,every Christian muslim areas are fighting for seperation,secularism is a good term for literary use, but not pratical,as its seen so in india..!!..
@Milo Taeyang, wish i could beleive what you are saying.. And yes, arunachal pradesh is harbouring lesser anti india sentiments.. But for sure cant say that about nagas, mizos and manipuris in general..nagas are in large number in arunachal too along the eastern side, so don't know about whole of arunachal too..!!..
@Milo Taeyang, have heared that arunachal have its own religion around sun moon concept and god of rangera?.. Are those the only indegenious religions of arunachal?..
The google definition makes Texas a country (as well as Vermont and Alaska), Texas has a history different from every other state, has its own state government and has a defined territory.
Texas is, to a degree, a country. State is synonymous with country, and the “United States” is a strategic union of what would be individual countries.
If by that definition, "Texas is a country," then Tibet would be a country too. Because the Tibetan Autonomous Region has its own government with its capital in Lhasa. But we all know that neither Texas nor Tibet is a country, so therefore the definition of a country must include not just any governance, but _independent_ governance.
Nation, not county. There's nothing wrong with that definition, it's cool to view on a map of like cool cultures around the world but it just becomes arbitrary. While Arizona is a nation, so is the Navajo Nation, way more even. But the American southwest also is a nation that's part of the Mexican homeland.
@@daltonmiller5590 all those words have multiple meanings tho. While for most people, "country" means like those governments that are independent and stuff, it's not the case for the UK where Scotland is a country while not being independent at all. But honestly what's even the meaning of "independent and stuff"? There's a word for that, it's sovereign state, but it's not as common. Though sovereign states are in the UN. But how sovereign do you even have to be? Some entities have a lot of autonomy but aren't un the UN. The country of Micronesia and Niue have similar statuses but one is in the UN and not the other. But what other words are used for sovereign states? Just "state" (the state of israel lol). But as you can see in the US, its territorial divisions are also called states despite by far not being independent.
@@gamermapper This is why I really dislike the UK using "countries" as the correct term to refer to their subdivisions within the United Kingdom. I'm 99% positive that no other soveirgn country in the world uses the word "country" to refer to their subdivisions. We have words like "provinces," "states," "territories," "departments," and even the French "regions." These are words to solely refer to subdivisions within a country. Hell, you could even just call them "subdivisions." The UK using the word "country" for their subdivisions muddles the very definition of country. Scotland is not independent (not yet at least lmao). Neither is Wales, or Northern Ireland. I don't care if it's tradition to refer to them as such. The historical era of Welsh/Scottish independence was over centuries ago. They aren't countries anymore by global definition. The UK should give it up and just start using "provinces" or something. Scottish pride will heal.
According your definition, every country who has more than 1 ethnic group should be divided into parts. Cause every ethnic group at some point of history was independent, had their own "goverment", territory, culture and language.
@@seandevine5836 many things. The video is basically suggesting pure ethic states around the glode, last time someone tried this in europe 6 million jews died.
@@omnomnom5359 what an unbelievably stupid opinion. If the jews had a state it wouldn't have happened. It happened precisely because they didn't have a right to self determination in their country
Dalai Lama never mention Tibet should be part of China. He stated that he is willing to seek autonomous Tibet with condition that Tibet was an independent country.
Autonomous from which country? China? India? You are either autonomous or not part of a country. If your hero, who shamefully given away Tawang, thinks that Tibet should be autonomous, this means he thinks that Tibet is not an independent country! It is a nation alright but according to your hero, not a country!
Tibet was also a theocratic state that allowed Slavery with 10% noble class owned literally 100% of the land. They also practiced human sacrifice, peeled human skins and used human bones to make religious instrument. There are still plenty out there you can find and documented in books with pictures.
@HoiNam Superior Southern Chinese no matter how much you fight for China you will die eventually it's just meaningless you should work for buddhahood rather than fighting for nonsense.
Just a small remark from a social scholar: the "something in common" thing must be PERCEIVED as common by the people in question. In other words, we need a national identity, a conviction that "we belong together". Otherwise you could say that Wallonians have more in common with French than with Flanders, or Germans and Austrians, or Polen and Lithuanians are a single nation. Heck, we can even have a Russian doll national identity, as in the case of British. Scots, Welsch and English belong to British nation because they believe that they do. Otherwise there would be no reason to stay in a single state.
Ya im tibetan and im amdo (the region described here in this video). All tibetans share a lot no…no….we are all one a people apart from the chinese. First of all our go to rules of a “starter pack “ of how to be a tibetan is very strong. Buddhism and i shit you not all of us have tibetan buddhism in our hearts and our homes. The dalai lama is our god in human form …AND THAT IS THE BIGGEST COMMON THING THAT ALL TIBETANS SHARE…that and everything he preaches about compassion and love.
Atlas Pro The auto-generated captions default to Portuguese, for some reason. P.S. Excellent channel, btw. Really great work from your end. Keep it up!
He gave the recommendation to talk to someone from Tibet, which I think is absolutely the right thing to do. However, one thing to keep in mind is that unless you are going to China, most Tibetans you meet outside of China are part of a very small minority, and much of that demographic left Tibet due to reasons that often put them in contention with the CCP. 94% of Tibetans are not outside of Tibet. As far as I know, there is no reliable poll to show what Tibetans actually think. I once stayed with a family in Tibet for a few weeks. Interesting that AtlasPro mentioned that you could get arrested for a portrait of the Dalai Lama because that is exactly what this family had up in their main room. We mostly talked about everyday things. I learned how to make yogurt and had the best lamb I've ever eaten. But we also sometimes talked about more interesting topics. They told me about how the kids of the town engage in ethnic group based brawls (this was a town in north Tibet where there were sizeable Hui and Han populations), they told me stories of PLA mass executions. But they also told me that they know that their lives are way better now than they would have been if the CCP hadn't taken over, given their status, and that they know their history. I know this is super anecdotal but I really do wonder what the actual public opinion within Tibet really is.
This sounds absolutely horrible. Which kind of heartless people accept mass executions and ethnic brawls for a bit more money? I'd rather live without electricity and running water, but in freedon and peace. Same with the Dalai Lama, he is an oxymoron.
The thing people gloss over is that the average Tibetans don't care about being independent. It's just not important to them. The people who want independence are mainly Lamas who missed their days of glory and want to treat the average Tibetans as serfs. Tibet was a hellhole before the CCP took over.
One clear fact is that Tibet has been a country for much of history. In China, the Communist Party teaches Chinese people that Tibet (along with other regions such as Xinjiang) has been a part of China for thousands of years. That’s an enormous lie. The Communists are not honest about the fact that Tibet and these other territories were originally other countries, which were much later conquered by China.
@am c why are you glorifying a country annexing other nations on a platform your platform outright banned and requires you to use a VPN to even access? like i understand nationalism, but this is on the level of saying europe controlling 90% of the planet was a good thing (since colonialism is just annexing a lot of territory into autonomous regions), this is a direct infringement of the right to self determinism. if you want to love your nation then that's fine, i'm proud to be british despite condemning the famines and autrocities in their past and shitty leadership now, and that's because i've learnt to seperate government from state, china has always been powerful due to the people in there, to such a point that overthrowing dynasties from expired holy mandates was the norm. the neo-communist government has broken the "holy mandate" by oppressing the Uyghurs in the same way the nationalist government broken theirs with the yellowstone river flood, a government is supposed to serve the people of its nation, not harm them. also stop pushing chinas shit on us, it's fucking disrespectful to our cultures for you chinease to say sovereng nations like taiwan which we are allied with are a part of your nation when literally all but one of the occupied/claimed nations want nothing to do with mainland china and have been fighting to emphasise that fact,
@am c research wisely? i pointed out that there's resistance (tibetten government in exile as explained in the video, taiwan being governed by the old nationalist government, hong kong protests, like have you seen my profile pic? i talked about actual history like the yellowstone river flood of WW2, the holy mandates that the emperors used to justify their rule, what more do you fucking want from me? to point out the last emporor was enlisted by the japanease to administer the occupied region of manchuquo? instead of acting like i'm a dipshit foregner why don't you explain to me why you support your governments decisions? cause as i already explained before, i'm proud british but i celebrate shit like stopping the nazis not the atrocities of our occupations, you can pick and choose what things you support, in fact having opinions is the thing that seperates us from every other animal, so genuinly instead of (rightfully) bashing my forefathers, why do you support your current leaders?
Tibet is part of China, simple question. Why? In Qing dynasty( about 200-300 years ago), The emperor already had very strong control on Tibet and The emperor built TWO large palaces in Chengde city, Hebei province for the leaders in Tibet, if you dont believe, google The Putuo Zongcheng Temple in Chengde city . How sad that some people know nothing about Tibet and make rumors spread.
@@jricky7981 i don't think the argument is if tibet is a part of china, the fact that india, chinas rival in the region had reconised their sovereignty over it is evidence of that. the question is whether they should, in the same way europeans forcing their beliefs down the throats of regions majoritively filled with minorities and limit their personal freedoms, chinas doing the same with tibet forcing athiesm onto tibet and creating laws against fucking reincarnation. people quite rightfully see china as an oppressive force and are very morality minded, hence the phrase "free tibet" instead of "hey china stop cliaming this territory as yours like you do with taiwan", it's not a territorial issue, it's a humanitarian one.
As if western countries never invaded other nations and acted as the judge.... Should US intruders kill local indians? Should UK invaded many african countries and Asian ciountries? obviously you should see what awful things your government had done before commenting on other countries.
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It's also wort mentioning that Tibet is very important for China's water security. 2 of China's 3 rivers begin in Tibet.
Even India's river begin there
both the yellow river and the yangtze has their head in Qinghai province, not Tibet.
One third of population used that River
Us Karen’s live in Myanmar and we depend on the Salween River (from tibet)
@@BenjiSun If your knowledge is limited then go shut the fuck up.
'Through a failed marriage and then conquest.'
There is so much not being said.
Exactly, this channel is biased
@@coolguy3848 It was a brief summary of Tibetan history in like 1 minute, what do you expect?
@@kumisz2 But missed important details. He said Nepal was part of Tibet when nepali girl married tibetan prince. It isnt like that. Nepali king married his daughter with tibetan prince to just improve relations but he said Nepal,Bangladesh and Bhutan were part of tibet when it clearly wasnt. Infact Tibet never even touched worlds ocean soo if a big channel does things like that, new generations will take that seriously and think in different way.
If you want to make a country history video, make it longer including all big details
@@kumisz2 1 minute? 7 minutes is the right answer
@@coolguy3848 7 minutes is the entire video, the history of Tibet was only a fraction of it
Dalai Lama live in my city
*Dharamshala* from where tibetian govt. Operates
Have you met him anyday? Just curious :)
where are u from?
@@athelstan5794 Dharamshala
@@siddharthtiwari8125 it's not easy to meet him
Very high security
N
Ticket is very costly
N
Only vip can go
Normal people like us can't go easily
But u can see him during tibetian festivals
@@greatpeopleofhimachal5043 ohk, thanks for the information :)
As a Chinese, I say this is one of the best Tibet explained in English.
Tibet is a little bit like Scotland, a nation but not a country, British want Tibet to be free but refuse to accept Scotland independence. In the name of freedom and democracy, British can do whatever they want.
As one of those so called war wolf Chinese boy, I want my government to announce loudly: we support Scotland freedom, and we will defend Scotland freedom with force, all for freedom and democracy. I love these bullshit slogans.
Don’t get me wrong, freedom and democracy are great things, unless someone use them as weapons to attack and invade. Please stop hurting innocent in the name of freedom and democracy.
they had a referendum in scotland, when is the Tibetan referendum? Probably too late now after all the Han migration though.
@@abbotsful Referendum? In Scotland? Same as the Catalan referendum in Spain? I recall 92% voted yes and Spanish government just ignored it.
Referendum is a joke, even if it passes, the queen would claim it as unconstitutional. Referendum only works when the result satisfying the government, otherwise it is fantasy. Great but useless.
U.S. is an example, people can only choose either Biden or Trump, yes Americans can choose, but whichever they vote for, US government is satisfied.
If Chinese chairman has 2 son, he will play democracy game one day: all Chinese can vote for the next chairman: his elder son or younger son, or himself to serve longer. See, we have 3 options, when American has 2. Which will make China more democracy than US.
I believe democracy is great, useless but great. You may say: we have this great thing called referendum , you don’t, it is useless, but at least we have it.
Good for you.
@@abbotsful the Han migration is made up by the CTA. Tibet was still 90% Tibetan as of 2011
@@gayvideos3808 there has been significant migration but thank you I stand corrected, the population proportion you stated is correct. Possibly all the more reason the COC will never allow Tibetans the right to vote and decide their own future.
Chinese next generation r in hospital 🏥 its called lab virus karma 🙃
Is California a country? Yes. It was.
It was all Mexica (whole western US was Mexico). Its all stolen lands from poor Natives
Max No thats wrong
California was a territory of land ruled by the Mexican Government. California was never its own country. The territory clamed independence from the Mexican Government and took to America in hope of it becoming a state. The land never was its own country and never will be. Case closed.
Texas was as well.
No for real it took 10 years for us to finally allow the u.s to annexe us
Yeah california was mexico at one point until manifest destiny happened
Next on list:
Is Catalonia a country?
Is Bavaria a country?
Is Hawaii a country?
50 cent army here.
Catalonia is a province.
Bavaria is a region.
Hawaii is a State.
Done.
@@petepetersen5418 Catalonia is not a province you dumbass, it is a region and nation
@@petepetersen5418 Catalonia is now a region in Spain that was once a nation that was conquered by the Castilles an annexed into the Spanish crown ...it has it's own language and customs .... Barvaria is a catholic region of Germany which probably is closer to Austria culturally but still German , as is Austria .... Hawaii is an island nation that was invaded, occupied and annexed by the US. Done.
Next country Karnataka
Exist in India
By dictionary definition, Tibet is nation. It just isn’t a sovereign state.
A Nation is a group of people not a territory.
@@charlieshaw1500 Yeah, Tibetan is a group of people.
He has mentioned it, too. Tibet is a nation, but not a country or sovereign state
@@farryhandika That’s what I said
@@PatriotMapper That's makes completely jo sense that would make any ethnic Chinese group a part of a different nation. I'm a min Chinese one of the major 7 and we don't consider ourselves a nation.
Is my phone listening to me? I was literally talking to someone about this
i dont think so, more likely youtube's archetype algorythm assigned to you has "tibetian content" as a highly potential interest topic for your brain, and most likely the reason why you brought this topic to your buddy. In other words youtube ushered you to be interested in this topic, and then put this content in front of you.
Your phone is listening to you, but not RUclips. It was just a coincidence
@Joseph Stalin I’m an American and Stars and Stripes beats hammer and sickle. Look it up, Stalingrad!
There's thins theory of 0. fielf. Plants and smartphones can take sounds, images and even thoughts, translate them into a 0 and 1 code by passing the information through this 0. field and give a command to the device. Basically, your phone can listen to you and read your mind. Creepy, isn't it? The government could control our lives like this.
@@topazbutterfly1853 uh huh. Next you’re going to tell me that the water turns the frogs gay
This was a surprisingly succinct and accurate video of the history of Tibet. As a Tibetan, I'd like to say kudos on this video. You really laid out the facts objectively.
p.s. Qing is pronounced Ching not King.
That’s so good to hear! I was worried about how this would be received. Initially I included a lot more history but the video got way too long. Also I realized afterwards that I mispronounced Qing, reading a whole script is hard somethings :P thanks for watching!
tz8t8 tibet is always a country
@HoiNam Superior Southern Chinese says the Chinese person...
Really? Was Nepal actually under Tibet's control?
@@eviltoms Nepal invaded Tibet during the Qing Dynasty. Tibet looked to Beijing for help and the Qing Dynasty warded off the Gorkha / Gurkha invaders.
Still can't believe that the Qing Chinese managed to defeat battle hardened Gurkhas!
Base on your definition, there is a lot of places are contries like Scotland, Quebec etc.
Kakashi sensei
The Confederate States of America!
Hawaii too
Well a country is not necessarily a sovereign state. So you can be a country while still technically under another sovereign state. Like HongKong.
Lol Scotland is definitely a country while Quebec is not, so research well before making statements. While Quebec is a country or not is open to speculation but including a place that is already a country weakens your point.
I am from Nepal and I do not think Tibet ever ruled Nepal thru a marriage (or by many other means). It is true, however, that a princess of Nepal, named Bhrikuti, married a king in Tibet and with herself brought Buddhism to Tibet from Nepal.
True, in Fact Tibet was actually a part of Nepal at some point in History. Also, India, Pakistan, Bhutan, Sri Lanka, as far as the entire continent of Asia was actually Nepal. Go ask your Prime Minister Mr. KP Oli.
@@SweetSourPickle No wonder your username of sour pickle.
@@blade1246 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😜
@@SweetSourPickle haha good joke. Nepal is to weak to take Bhutan, India, Sri Lanka and Pakistan, let alone the entire continent of Asia.
@@vibinginmybedroomrn9948 read history of Nepal tibet just invade 12 percent of Nepal we were given double aftwr victiry
“short” qing dynasty for about 300 years,nice try
Hawaii has only been part of U.S. for about 120 years.
@@rhena229 Anyway China bad is all what this video has to say.
@TibetanAlpha not as tyrranny as the dalai lama theocracy which made serfs worked their bone to the ground.
Fuck china!!!!!!!!
Qing dynasty was the country of manchu, and Han Chinese were their slaves.
It might have been worthwhile to mention how many important rivers in Asia begin in the Tibetan plateau making control of the region far more strategically essential to the nations in the regions than the presence of valuable minerals would suggest.
It might have been worthwhile to mention tibetan have been living under serfdom for thousands of years till CCP liberated them in 1951. Maybe those westerners yelling free tibet would augue that it's their free will to live as serfs.
@@Wilson24678They can live how they want.
@@GrigRP So your value can tolerate slavery?
@@Wilson24678 My value is not invading countries
@@GrigRP It's irrelevant here. You are defending slavery of Tibet. Do you really believe those Tibetan slaves want to live that way?
Do a video on “is Hawaii a country?”
Left anti pc that’s stupid
Hawaii fought harder for independence than Tibet did. They united under a monarchy and tried hard to modernise their institutions. Tibet bought some rifles.
@@PigMCplayer But relevant.
Westerners doing anti-CHINA campaign forgetting what they did.
@@bharatgao1435 Whataboutisms don't make Tibet any less of a ENTIRELY LEGITIMATE CHINESE TERRITORY. That being said, yes us "westerners" have a long list of nations and cultures we've screwed over metaphorically and quite often literally. As the saying goes though, two wrongs don't make a WESTERN LIE.
The bigger question is, if western definition of "country" applies to Tibet, or even China as a whole? China being a multi-ethnic country, has many ethnic groups with unique cultures and religions, inhabiting in certain regions of China. Allowing Tibet to break out, is the starting point of dismantling China.
Multi ethnicity/culture/religion is not unique to China, many other countries should be torn apart: United Kingdom does not make sense, India is an obvious victim and Native Americans/Australians/Canadians deserves their own government within the respective territories.
CCP maggots they for Chinese turd culture on every minority, hypocrite stfu.
The uk is falling apart already
Honestly as a ethics minority of china, china need to stop being greedy and let those ethics people have their own country. They have their own religion, culture, language and people.
@@changmouapride9048 去你妈的，想独立，滚出中国，不是你撒野的地方
Right like majority they r talking sht bout han people. Yet they say Chinese cuz when they hate n all that they r hating the other 55 ethnic groups as well bc they r also Chinese
Great video! Thank you!
During college my apartment was the highest region of the world, but in other terms
I see what you did there
I getn't
Lmao
@Venky Wank Way Higher
Ya, everyone got higher I think
Is Tibet a country?
Taiwan: Hold my Land
Tibet is the territory of the Republic of China, not the People's Republic of China
ASSANE MBOUP China for Chinese. Tibet for Tibetans. I hope this definitely means Tibet is a country.
im sure Republic of China claims china proper (ofc), tibet, xinjiang, mongolia (both inner and outer), and manchuria (including outer, which is controlled by russia)
Despite of this video, the fact is Tibet has already be regarded as a part of China for most people.
One thing I have to say, literally Taiwan has pretty much similar culture, language and history like China , they used to be a part of China, until the conflict of Communist Party and Kuomingtang, for some reasons, some group of Taiwanese wants to be independent, however, another group of them wants to go back to China or keep their current situation until now, I've heard a lot of Taiwanese, they claimed that they are originally Chinese, I'm NOT joking, they believe they are Chinese, so, it is kind of a complex topic to deny which of group is right or wrong, same way as Tibet, but now most people think Tibet is part of China, as same as Xingjiang, and Inner Mongolia.
In those ancient maps Mongolia used to be much larger than it is now
Give me your number
China captured it
@@reddragonemperor1623 wdym like how every country gets their territory? If then yes, that’s how it works
Modern Mongolia is only so small because that's the portion that broke free went communist rather than joining the original ROC in 1911 when the Qing dynasty's rule ended. More mongolians live in China than in Mongolia by far.
@@tonyc6742 ??
In the Qing Dynasty, there were Qing outposts and troops stationed on the border between Tibet and India You tell me that Tibet is ruled by the Dalai Lama??China first officially ruled Tibet in the Yuan Dynasty. Later, became a tributary state in Ming dynasty. Later, the Qing Dynasty regained it.
清朝那会儿是用达赖喇嘛作为一个代表间接统治西藏，没有直接进行管理。（虽然达赖喇嘛还是被清朝控制任命的）
I'm a Tibetan and the truth is AMDO AND KHAM both are part of Tibet
ngodup dorjee You can use RUclips? I thought Chinese government banned it.
@@geofeu7229 vpn...
@@UnQuacker yeah im vpn
v- why is
p- the chinese government
n- dragging me to a gulag for watching youtube
@詹剑 what is the meaning ??? Is this Tibetian language or chinese .....
Write in English ....
@@satyajitbhosale5103 that is chinese language. Tibetan language is a unique alphabet thats based from India
Well to be as neutral as I can, Tibet has been like a colony of Qing since about 300 years ago. They placed a general there that had higher power than the lama kings. Kinda like how India was a country but still under British raj's rule.
When the Qing crumbled in 1911, the republic (ROC) replacing it didn't have enough power and attention to keep Tibet under occupation, so it sorta became functionally independent. But ROC still claimed to have sovereignty over it, and because ROC was a western ally, nobody would recognize Tibet as independent from China. And what happened after PRC you are all familiar with.
So I think the Hawaii comparison is actually pretty good. If the Hawaiian royalty were still around and took refuge in another country, and the US was suppressing Hawaiian's freedom of religion, you would see people carrying Free Hawaii flags around too. So the real problem is not whether China is the "legitimate" owner of Tibet, but whether they treat the Tibetans nicely.
Very well said
The most non-biased comment here. At least you're not an obnoxious pro-Tibet person. They are illiterate with history. Even when Tibet claimed to be independent, it is debatable on how much of a country it really was. Considering that it lacked recognition. Just as you mentioned, the ROC still claimed it. The League of Nations also recognized it as apart of China. That doesn't mean what China is doing to Tibetans is right still. Nor does it justify what actions China has done to Tibet. While the PRC has a very harsh relationship with Tibet, the ROC's relationship wasn't much peaceful either. They went to war two times with Tibet. But the ROC didn't take extreme meassures on Tibet or Tibetans. Anyway, well said.
I couldn't have said it better myself. The only thing I'd add is that the more people advocate for Tibetan independence, the harder it's going to be on the people living in Tibet. There's no realistic chance of independence in the near future but the insecurity that independence sentiment fosters leads to distrust and oppression by the authorities regarding the people.
@@alanfriesen9837 There is no way the Tibetans can get independence, if China step out due to some magical event, India would step in.
Their population is too low, they have virtually zero industry to defend themselves, and they're sitting on a place that is the origin of all the rivers that provide water for 40% of the world's population.
@@u06jo3vmp While I also agree that Tibet isn't going to get independence though I don't think it's because of a threat from India. Those mountains are a hell of a barrier and I don't think India has the capacity to project power through them. An independent Tibet would definitely be under constant pressure from India, China, Thailand, Myanmar, Bangladesh, Cambodia and Vietnam regarding water supplies but the only one of those countries that could sustain a presence in Tibet is the one that's already there.
You can completely liberate Tibet, but when you liberate Tibet, Texas, Florida, and California, it is estimated that they will also be liberated
操作西藏问题最凶的是阿三，应该是解放锡金解放拉达克，解放曼尼普尔，解放西孟加拉，解放阿萨姆😊
Dont estimate just free tibet and thats it chinese bot😂
Wow... thank you so much❤️🙏☸️
China will never let Tibet secede if it can help it. All of China’s freshwater flows from there. Its a national security concern. It’s vertical integration.
Himalaya=vertical integration.
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that is why tibet needs to grab its destiny and see freedom of its former independent glorious history. vietnam has done it, and perhaps taiwan should also start shaping up... perhaps even manchuria and uyghuristan should stop getting itself be displaced and acculturated. even mongol areas... but alas prc is like ottoman kebab of old
xXxSkyViperxXx maybe if China collapses. But I think that independence will be short lived. Geography penned them in with a vastly more powerful and populous people who will always want to conquer them.
@@appa609 how did they make a tibetan empire in history tho if it is fate by geography that will end them
xXxSkyViperxXx and it was repeatedly invaded then subjugated.
And if China doesn’t manage it India will.
You’re a strategically important region bordering almost 3 billion people but you have basically 0 gdp. Bad place to be.
Is Hawaii a country? is California
a country? is Quebec a country? is Scotland a country? is Catalonia a country?
Is dixie a country? Is new Afrika a country ?
Wumao with fake english name tasted his own medicine, the China virus and is more. 🤣
@@Sam-yt6fs hawaii kingdom and texas republic joined USA. so it is a state. tibet joined china during the qing dynasty so it is a state.
Great video, thank u!
Tibet was a nation in the history. and in fact many of you don't know, Tibet was a threat to the Xin Jiang, and other regions to the middle earth. There was a powerful empire called Tangut empire that ruled Tibet and part of Xin Jiang. During Tang and Song Dynasty, Tangut kept on invading the Tang and Song, and in fact Tang and Song was the side that being invaded and tried to counter attack. This is due to the lack of natural resources in Tibet. Tea is essential. Tea is so important in the daily lives of a Tibetan, because there are not much vegetables you can consume in Tibet, Tibetan people eat beef and drink milk, and vegetable is very rare food for them, even until now, fruits and vegetables are still expensive in Tibet, but of course way better than it was in the past. And Tea can be stored for a long time and it produces crucial nutrients for health, that is why the Tibetan Tangut Empire attempted so many times to invade Tang and Song, because they need tea farms. The wars between the Tang Song Dynasty against the Tibetan Tangut, was easy on the plain, but when it comes to counter attack on the Tangut empires cities, it is difficult due to the altitude sickness, people from the eastern part of China cant handle this when they enter Tibet. and thats what made Tibetan Tangut always a threat that is so difficult to get rid of. and in fact the Tang and Song had no interest for Tibetan lands because they are agricultural nations and it is the Tibet area is not suitable for agricultural economy. But Mongolian eventually destroyed the Tibetan Tangut Empire, and was ruled directly as a province, then the Ming Dynasty replaced the Mongol empire, the Tibet also surrendered to the Ming, but Ming never rule Tibet directly, so it basically remain politically isolated but not economically , the leading body in Tibet acknowledged the Ming emperor as their emperor, else Ming will cut off their tribute relations and the tradings, which is crucial to the Tibetan' survival. (in the tribute system, the tribute state actually earns more than the side who receive the tributes, because the emperor must rewards them more silks, teas, and porcelains in return, thats why many neightbouring nations actually volunteerily to be a tribunal state of China.
Then Qing dynasty came, they sent officers to rule Tibet together with the monks, because the Qing dynasty realized the ambitions of British from the another side of Himalayas. The british wants to take over the Tibet. and even after Qing, the threat is not over, but the enemy changed from the brits to the indians. President Nehru's forward policy is too dangerous, India conquered many small and weak nations and they targeted Tibet. and the conflict between China and India still continues today. its all started with the McMahon line, the brits simply drew a line on the map and claimed it was the border line because their army can reach there.
Go back to where ever your ancestors migrated from, north america belongs to native indians!
Very objective! Good for you!
You;'re wrong, the Tanguts were a qiangic tribe,plus they only rebelled against Song in 986, although they had established control over Northern Shaanxi since the late 800s. They never controlled Xinjiang, only half of Gansu, Ningxia, and what is now parts of Inner Mongolia
Your history knowledge is hilarious 😂🤣🤣
@@VitaminProtein4256 lmao, it seems you have nothing of susbtance to say 😂
Never knew Tibet was so big in past!
I was
Interesting, India used to be bigger than today as well, but now....why nobody make a video for them, or other disputed countries, but always love focusing on China, because their size? or just don't like them? racist?
@@kaienzhu8760 Because India is too dirty and it stinks...
@@alexslieker9744 Haha XDDD
Alex Slieker yea they don’t. Have toilets
Is Tibet a country? Yes, it was!
Is Crimea a country? Yes, it was!
Is Kosova a country? No, it never was :(
So it isn't about whether something is right or wrong, it's about whether it fits US or not :P
Is kurdistan a country? Hard to answear
Was Palestine a country? Yes it was!
Is Kosovo Serbia? No it isn't!
@@radianzero Is it okay to bomb country for protecting its territory and call bombers heroes? Yes, it isn't..
^ Found the Serb nationalist.
This video ignores the slavery and cruel punishments that existed in Tibet in the 1950s (including amputation and the trade of human skin and bones). Those who are interested can take a look at the laws under the rule of the Tibetan Buddhist government at that time. To the monks and nobles at the time, the People’s Liberation Army might be the enemy, but to the slaves it might be the opposite.
Hawaii, Ryukyu (now in Japan), Sikkim (In India) , Kingdom of Prussia, Republic of Genoa(now a part of Italy) were all countries. So what
Were, but not now...
On the other hand, tibetans want a different country and independence, this is what the video is all about😊
@@siddharthtiwari8125 well, they could keep their request for independence but the reality is that to independent Tibet is impossible.
@@yujicunghvaz3374 wut??
@Loki Mak yeah! Tibetans from India are enjoying their life :)
I am sikkimese and if you people don't attack us we were still kingdom india is birthplace of budhhism so we lived happily here if we go china , we loose our culture
well, the truth is 5 seconds here: 4:55 - 5:00. "briefly under the administration of Qing Dynasty of China", the "briefly" here is about 300 years.
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@ Amy & Ty. British ruled over India for 200 years. Does it mean India is not a country ?
@@ashishkhandekar3776 If anything, India should be a muslim country, just like before the British colonization.
@@wangzhan7036 you seriously need to read history bro . Cause your comment above doesn't make any sense.
if Tibet is a country , what about india？ in india there are so many place where the people use the different language have differrent culture and they never been governed by India but British. So India shall not be a country , it shall be many countries.
i think our state of INDIA , Sikkim was a part of Tibet because our king was tibetan.....and here in sikkim there are so many tibetan monastries .
And population is little bit more nepali but Tibetan is dominant
nd our culture is mixed.....
Yes, eastern part of India was Tibetan one day. but we all people on earth are homosapiens (human being).this is only human species on earth live today
Whatever history is u r indian
Trueeeeeeeeeee
I've been to Sikkim and its beautiful, People who are not from India needs to understand one basis point that India is a pluralistic society which gives freedom. Sikhism was born here so was buddhism and jainism so India is land of culture and freedom. Those who talk about Kashmir should understand that Kashmir was given its autonomy but then we have a bad neighbour Pakistan which believes in religion above everything. If India would have thought that in the past there would have been no other religions in India which were branched from hinduism like sikhism and jainism.
@LonelyMan Rabby I'm bengali and i can say sikkim has nothing to do with bengal. It has been a mountain kingdom which chose to become part of India. Bengalis need to stop trying to appropriate everything. They have their fair share to brag about. Underplaying their neighbors won't do a thing to elevate them.
Many thanks for the information!
Very good and carefully created video, you are among the greatest of content creators please never change, don’t stop, I need your videos
This is actually one of his less good videos. I'll agree his content has gotten much better in recent years and he's an amazing RUclipsr, but this video is old and poor quality.
The history and the map were both partially wrong. He didn't include parts of western Tibet which were part of the Tibetan Empire, and also Tibet never controlled Nepal through conquest _or_ marriage. Also, he claimed Ando and Kham are not usually associated with Tibetan independence, but this is absolutely false. Kham and Amdo are also inhabited by Tibetans, just like U-Tsang, and they want independence too (Although, granted, Amdo does have an increasing growing Chinese population). In the end though, _all_ Tibetans want to form a greater Tibetan country. And while the Dalai Lama may insist "Tibet belongs to China," he does this out of fear. If he advocates for a free Tibet, he could start independence revolts in China, as the Tibetan people are devoutly religious and see him as their leader, exiled or not, and they would follow his word. If he did this, the Chinese government would almost certainly assassinate him in India.
Atlas Pro had good intentions making this video, but he didn't quite have all his facts straight when making it.
@@daltonmiller5590 at this point, any nation on earth would do this to mantain stability, let's just hope revolt doesn't happen in china
@@daltonmiller5590 and where have you took the information that all tibetans want a country? And the dalai lama says this out of fear? Your ass?
@@zaraiwzara Oh great another Chinese troll. I used to think the CCP was the evil at the heart of China. But based off all you commenters saying that Tibetans and Uighurs and Inner Mongolians don't deserve independence... it makes me wonder if the Chinese people themselves are the true evil. How could you be so cruel to deny them freedom? How could you be so cruel as to sit back and watch as your government strips them of their culture and religion? That's not ok. :/
And anyone with any common sense should understand what I say is true. The Dalai Lama advocates for peace. It is part of his religion. So, naturally he would be against fighting for independence. But that shouldn't exclude him from supporting a peaceful independence. So why doesn't he? Obviously he has been scared away from it. And who else would scare him but China?
Perhaps not *all* Tibetans want independence, but certainly a majority do. That is what I meant by that. Unfortunately it is hard to get an exact number though because China would not allow such a poll of the population to be done. Go figure :/
@@daltonmiller5590 It’s incredibly sad to hear the amount of monasteries destroyed just in Tibet by the Chinese. It breaks my heart. We’ll never have that part of history ever again.
Nepal was not under tibet in any time period of history. Tsongten Gampo married to daughter of king of Nepal Bhrikuti and she was the one who spread buddhism in tibet. This has been taught in schools of Nepal since many generations. Maybe you should dig out more information about it.
Yup. Stupid to argue with white history. They are the ones who wtite it. They have too much power.
Nischal Kattel just coz they teach that propaganda in Nepal’s school to praise their own, it doesn’t make it a fact. You really think people who live in northern parts of the Nepal are Nepali? They are actually Tibetan descendants. Get your facts right!
@tngodup10 They live inside the border of Nepal. If they have Nepalese citizenship they are Nepali.
And where have i said they are not tibetan descendants. It doesnt matter if they are tibetan descendants or chinese descendants. If they have Nepalese citizenship, they are Nepali.
In school we were taught that reason for the marriage is for keeping good relationship between nation. But we were not taught that Bhrikuti flourish Buddhism in Tibet. That time there is Buddhism already in Tibet. It was padmasambava who had made wide flourish of Buddhism in Tibet.
do: "is Taiwan a country?" - I dare you!!!!
Native People Protesting: Free Formosa From Invaders Who Call Themselves Taiwanese.
You're gonna get this channel banned in China lol, oh wait, this is RUclips, this entire website is banned in China xD
X Y Not really. Typically GFW is just a filter.
Short answer: yes
Long answer: definitely yes
The answer is absolutely yes, in all but recognition.
Great story and thanks for the clarity of Tibet, nicely done ✔
Manchuria, Xinjiang, Qinghai, and Tibet were the administrative district called Amban under Qing. Other regions are called Provinces and Banner. Dalai Lama as a principality controls the northern Tibet, whereas Panchen Lama and his court controlled the southern part. Both are subordinated to the Ambon governor. After dynasty collapsed, 13th Dalai Lama usurped 9th Panchen Lama’s court and fiefdom, and forced him into exile. After kicking out Panchen and Republic Amban, Dalai Lama become sole ruler of Tibet Amban. Current Dalai Lama claims another Amban Qinghai/Amdo which was established by Qing in 1725.
The Chinese Nation was that which was inside the Great wall. You are confusing Mongolian, Tibetan and Uyghur "Barbarian" lands as yours. Sun Wu Kong's Journey to the East mentions these lands, Clearly this is not China. Even in the story it is mentioned as "Foreign Lands".
@@hindurashtra63 Yo dude I hope you know your reference is a fictional movie right? There's no wu Kong right.
*The Chinese Communist Party wants to know your location*
open the door , u got a delivery！
Sure you send your location and I will send mine
@raghav kaushik 055 I won't lol
sneaky b@stards are like rates who slowly expand the territories, just like Hitler.
Winnie the Pooh wants poop with his eyes half closed😂
The quality of your videos is outstanding. I can't believe you have just 1000 subscribers. This channel is like a hidden gem.
Thank you! Glad to see people enjoying :)
And It's growing at and outstanding rate. When I subscribed a day ago it was at 34 K and now it's at 39 K WTF!!?? Yeah that's right a DAY AGO!! IN 1 FREAKING DAY
@@AtlasPro1 Now you have close to a million.
Thanks for staying informative and keeping the politics out of it. Great video, keep up the good work!
By your definition, Hawaii and Alaska are nation and country.. never mind, these rules don't apply to Western Power.
Western people always say and think the dumbest stuff about anyplace outside Europe and North America. It's a lot less stress to just ignore everything they say, and maybe gently remind them they have no idea what they are talking about.
The US has been trying to cause rebellion in Tibet and Xinjiang for half a century. They just like to meddle.
@@thejword4279 the purpose of CIA is to create havoc around the world. CIA has no purpose of existing except when the world is in chaos, then they'll create a sense that these forces are against Americans.
Songtsan Gampo actually married with a Chinese princess from the Great Tang Empire
Krete Shi he married a lot of women to build relationships
He had many wives. The more popular ones were the Chinese and Nepalese wives.
The Nepali princess Bhrikuti is called GreenTara and the Chinese princess WenChin as WhiteTara. These two ladies are worshipped as goddess consort. They brought Buddhism to Tibet.
Alex Lestrange you can't say Nepalese modern Nepal didn't even existed back then but I'm sure there were some other names
Pabin Gurung you're right, modern Nepal as in Nepal with the political boundaries of today didn't exist then. But the name 'Nepal' has been around for much much longer than just the past 200 or so years since the country's formation. Some scholars say it's derived from a kirat word and others have other theories. When Prithvi Narayan Shah invaded Kathmandu valley, the valley was referred to as Nepal, which is why Newari is known as Nepal bhasa(Nepali is a different language). Also why the king's army were called Gorkhalis and not Nepalis at the time.
Regardless, when people think of Chinese and Nepalese, they think of today's China and Nepal. China(as a country) didn't have the same territory as it does today in all of its history either so the same logic can be applied to Nepal too. The kingdom Bhrikuti was from might not have been called Nepal but China's name is a fairly recent one too(came from the Qing dynasty). Either way, what is of importance is what kind of influence they had on the ruler of Tibet, Princess Bhrikuti introduced Indo-Nepali culture while Princess WenCheng introduced Chinese culture to the ruler and the Kingdom.
According to your definition, my village is a country.
CCP bot spotted😂😂
Shut up Peter
According to his definition, the American Indians is a Nation, the US should return the nation to Indians, and go back to Europe
Fuck off
According to his definition, American should pack their bags and go back to Europe, cause the land of called America today belongs to the native Indian. While we here, please remember the "Thanksgiving day" the day when European explorer arrived exhausted from their exploration ship, the native Indian treated them with foods, fresh water and shelter; while the European occupier after exploration the land, found gold and silver and fur commodities, replied to the native Indian with kindness, yup with bullets, massacre and genocide driving them to the east coast. Also we forget, killing all the wild bison deprive the native Indian of food source and salted their land so corn and potato hardly grow
Native Americans should also be accounted for as a country. Territory check, Descent check, History Check, Culture check. So Native Americans definitely should build their own country. Nation Check.
Yes yes yes!
Yes it's a free country
My fav Chinese province
My fav country is Ohio
in the video the Qing’s influences on Tibet might be underestimated. what i know is that Qing sent someone to cogovern Tibet for quite a long tine.
The princess that built the famous palace?? Eh no..that was the even earlier tang right..
The Qing Dynasty was the Manchurian Empire, and Tibet was a vassal state during the Qing Dynasty. Like Korea.
@@manchuqing4560 No, the Qing Dynasty's control over Tibet was several levels higher than Korea's, and it was a semi-autonomous region.
the place dalai lama was decided by tibet and then got permitted by the Qing,
As a Nepali we really love tibet🇳🇵🇳🇵🇳🇵
Much of our mountain folks speak the language and follow its culture
We are home to Mt Everest and the birth place of Buddha
🙏🙏🙏
now you supporting china next time nepal is under chinese govt,,,lol
@Bhum Brahmavira I believe India, Nepal and Tibet share the same mother. Here, in India, we consider them as our brothers. We have a rich culture and beliefs in each other. Talking about border disputes, that's nothing in front of our similarities. More or less, we have one of the greatest open borders so those borders are just of a namesake. Political disputes do not make anyone enemy. That's same as two brothers. They sometimes quarrel but nevertheless, they are brothers. I appreciate your answer and concern. And, as an Indian, I'm really sorry for any unrest between our countries. I know this is only a matter of time, I've too read a lot about "a part of" Chinese creating discomfort for the people not just in India but in Nepal and Tibet too tho China is a great country that shares a lot from us. I hope we all stand together soon.
@@anshulraut8013 yes, Buddha is an Indian, everyone knows that. But name calling isn't necessary.
@@anshulraut8013 lol just google it first or research the history
@cITRIC ACId china helped the communist party of nepal when it was in the brink of collapse. thats why the nepalese govt has become a tool for xi jing ping to use. some private schools in nepal have started teaching mandarin and china pays for it.. nepal is going to be next tibet since it falls under china's 5 sister territory.
I have heard stories of Tibet, and my garo ancestors are believed to have migrated from Tibet to India, other than that I didn't know anything about Tibet, it is interesting to know about Tibet.
thank you so much for uploading video and i am glad that you are able to do so.Hopefully same day we can go back to Tibet as a free Country.
😅You are funny.
'习近平领导的反对独裁'的演讲用韩文写的好听了。现在是付诸行动的时候了。
@@vstachen7761 Just coz China took our country?
@@user-rs1vk2bs3n I am tibetan and i don't speak or write chinese , so please either English or Tibetan but not Chinese for sure ...
@@tenzinsherap136 Must it be Tibetan land? Why is it destined to be Tibetan land? The determination of the territory is determined through wars, conquests, international treaties, and treaties between nations. It doesn't matter who lives on this land, North America was originally the land where indigenous peoples have lived for generations! It belongs to white people now.From ancient times to the present, the territory has been constantly changing. This land has been inhabited by dozens of ethnic groups including Qiang, Tibetan, Hui, Mongolian, etc. Why should it be Tibetan land?
When the words like "invade" and "conquer" and "perpetrated atrocities" are included in a description, I kinda have to conclude- Yeah, it was a nation.
but from Tang dynasty, the ruler of Tibet has recognized as a vassal state of China until Qing dynasty,especially in QING, the Dalai Rama must obtain the edict from the Qing emperor or it is illegal .and in the period of Republic of China, because of the early civil war and the late Japanese invade war and the civil war between nationalist party and communist party, the Tibet got chance to not comply with the rule in thousand years. So, the new gov of China is just make Tibet do the thing he should do.
@@opheliamalone1953 Key word here is Vassal, the definition of which is Forced Allegiance.
@@montieluckett7036 but it has more than 1300 years..., and in Qing, it has actually become a part of China, the Qing emperor also would send a minister to control the real power.., dalai rama just be a symbol....
So can I say the Califonia is a nation? Does every single state in U.S. is a nation? Because in the U.S. land, we can also find the words like "inbade" and "conquer" was happended.
So are you talking about the Gov of China or Dalai Lama? They Both committed those actions.
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( thanks for the video ).👍💓💓💓👍😍😍
Supporting for Tibet means protecting our own roof of the world. 🌎.
Tibet needs you🙏
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@@PREMIER_THESTAR ratio with tianamen square massacre you maotard
Wow, You Are From Tibet :D
@@PREMIER_THESTAR That's so vile.
lmao
*China wants to know your location*
That depressed guy not worth the time.
@@luxi2701 shi la
Warning, nuclear missile launched.
I clicked on the video just to make this same comment
傻b
"Through a failed marriage and then conquest"
That is some game of thrones type of shit.
Yeah! I thought the exact same thing! 😀
Game of Thrones has nothing on history, except dragons. They do have the best dragons
Vegar Ystenes Valstad dragons weren’t in the first seasons, it was mostly about politics
It's a good starting point. On the whole a fairly objective video.
Very good exposicion!
Songtsen Gampo never occupied Nepal. Nepal's king at that time, Anshuverma, married his daughter, Bhrikuti, to Songtsen Gampo. And kept his army out of Nepal. Bhrikuti is the reason Buddhism spread in Tibet.
Edit- At least thats what we were taught in school.
I thought brikuti is hindu..we as tibetan believes padmasambava did that..
Nepali princess Queen Bhrikuti's son was the crown prince who unfortunately died young. So, by default Chinese princess WenChin's son became the king after SrongTson Gampo. Thus Tibet became closer to north-east than south-west. Otherwise history would have been different.
Nepal has a long history of relationship with tibet and was never part of china, nepalese student even have history lesson in social studies subject about the marriage of a nepalese princess with the king of Tibet..
Tenzin Rinchen virkuti took Buddhism to Tibet first, Padmasamvaba perhaps stablished Bazrayana successfully in Tibet
@@kbgirel6965 true. They were of different periods.
Congratulations on over 1000 subs, and great video as always
@Mr. P. Enis Add 10k to that
Oh boi
snowballing now... on 119k ;) @Neki
Channel exploded last few days
@@ChingitaThe 141k!
In 2019,the Tibetan population was 6 282 187,the Uighur population was 10 069 346. If Tibet and Xinjiang are in the west of US, the Tibetans and Uighur are almost extinct.
There are tens of millions of Uighurs in China, and the growth rate is amazing
Most of the Tibetans actually fled to India with Dalai Lama when China invaded the country and started killing them.
I have a fun little fact concerning the 14th Dalai Lama, my teacher (Mister Jean-Marie Jolidon) is a well-known Swiss Photographer, he loves culture et photography (of course) and his friend is the INTERPRETE of the actual Dalai Lama, it's something that made me think "Okay, so that's an avenger's level legend"
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English Answer : Yes
Chinese Answer : _No_
Chinese awnsers : bu shi
Chinese answer: bu dui
Sebastian Stan tibet independence is impossible
depends wt kind of chinese
is America a country?
Americans: yes
indians: no
Love for my Tibetan brothers from USA 🇺🇸❤
love Hawaii bro from Russia
Tibet is very good, take care of yourself
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@@user-ph4lj1xt2o I have been to Tibet, it is under Police state and Communist Clergy, Xinjiang is now. But Tibet is next
@@user-ph4lj1xt2o Its obvious that english isnt your first language but I got a bit of that, I got in from the airport in Qinghai and then took road trip from Qinghai, through Nagqu and Ngari. Then left by going to Kashmir
@@user-ph4lj1xt2o I got a permit
Tibet is a nation, it is not a country however. Those are two very different things! A nation has its own culture, history and language but it does not have to be an independent entity. A country in the other hand, is an independent entity.
By your definitions of what a country should be, half the nations in the world could split up. Many have pockets of people who are distinctly different from the majority. There are not many countries that are completely homogenous
5:29 dude, they rebelled.
Some high ranking monks didnt wanna be under china. So they rebelled. And he had to flee because they rebelled under his name.
Tough luck.
It was mainly the poor, the middle class, monks, nuns and other lay people who revolted for decades. The elite and the clergies actually loved the idea of communism, just like the elites of many other parts of the world, until the brutal genocide of Tibetans. That's when the clergy and the elites saw what communism actually was.
@@eJohndoe genocide? Dude, if there was a genocide, tibetan would be extinct now.
Do google about tutsi hutu genocide, armenian genocide, yews genocide. Thats what genocide is, they eliminate particular group of people from particular area. Since theres still lots of tibetan in tibet, there were never a genocide.
Come now, dont be a sheeple. At least learn the definition of the word genocide.
@@eleethtahgra7182 Well, of the systematic and targetted killings of over a million Tibetans since the forced illegal occupation of Tibet by China isn't a genocide, then I don't know what is. It's you who should actually learn the definition.
@@eleethtahgra7182 Watch the interviews with Jamyang Norbu. I know you're a proud Chinese, but there's a lot more to Tibet than you hear from the Global Times and CGTN. ruclips.net/user/ANDmagazinevideos
@@eJohndoe
Dude, if a population rebelled, theres gonna be death. Even usa n britain werent spared such fate.
And if they could deliberately kill the tibetans, why stop now?
ruclips.net/video/3WetplXVVUo/видео.html
Bunch of tibetans there, why stop?
< by China isn't a genocide, then I don't know what is. >
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_definitions
No it isnt since tibetans are still around, their culture are still around.
You wanna know whats a genocide? Yews genocide by nazi, armenian by ottoman, native american by usa govt back then, tutsi by hutu in rwanda. Thats genocide.
"The Turkic Uyghurs to the north helped the Chinese". They're gonna regret that later... 😶
Btw, great videos but you've still got sound problems.
Katy Newt F
Katy Newt and they did indeed
uyghurs were just nomadic horse people living in yurts or huts
@Рио Ниязов I gave the wrong link
www.google.com/amp/s/supchina.com/2019/07/23/beijing-white-paper-says-uyghurs-are-not-turkic/amp/
@杨健 Turkic and Turkish don't mean the same thing ya dingus. They are Turkic peoples. That doesn't mean they're Turkish..
Su mudaerji is the reason y I watched this video since he’s Tibetan.
free tibet
tibet is not currently a country, but it is an ethnic nation state.
@HoiNam Superior Southern Chinese of north china beijing ccp*
To the contrary, it may be a country, and the Tibetans may be a nation, but it is not a state.
@HoiNam Superior Southern Chinese there is a reason why it is called sino-tibetan. the languages of myanmar and bhutan are technically part of the tibetan branch in that family yet they are not part of china. sino-tibetan is like indo-european or malayo-polynesian, yet all those are not ruled by a single overarching country
@HoiNam Superior Southern Chinese says the expansionist who upvotes his own comments
@HoiNam Superior Southern Chinese If you love your country so much fuck off youtube and stop breaking your own countries laws you hypocritical piece of shit.
@atlas pro thank you so much for making this video, really appreciate that.
FREE TIBET
They don’t wanna be free bc they r alr free in China
It is, in my heart
Tibet: "Why won't China let me be a country, IT ISN'T FAIRR!!"
Taiwan: "Tell me about it"
Why does Taiwan call it republic of China. In its Constitution Tibet is Republic of China
Ask Palestinians, Kurds, and Mayans first.
Idiot ! Taiwanese are Chinese too.
@@cl1070 What do you expect CCP Chinese shill?
@@Aeturnalis Oh you think they are more important, why is that?
Now: Is Tibet a country?
Later video: Am I in a Chinese gulag?
Chinese gulag is a fake news, not exists in China, only exists in some western medias.
Yes it is a country China by force annexe with them you are requested to go back 1960
Welcome anyone study further on topics such as Sino-India War, Relationship between Tibet and Qing, Why China exile dalai lama instead of being a sheeple
Geng Wang it’s only fake news in China
@@boochie-yj7un You can visit Tibet for yourself, to see is to believe.
The Dalai Lama and the Panchen Lama ruled Tibet, and the emperor ruled the Dalai Lama and the Panchen Lama. It was originally a very simple matter. Tibet is an autonomous province of China， for 700 years.
The British invaded Tibet from India, and the weakness of the Qing empire complicated the situation, and China's communism and the Cold War made the situation even more complicated.
Tibet will not be completely independent from China, and China will not allow Tibet to become independent. Tibet cannot be without the economic support of mainland China, and China cannot be dragged away from the control of the source of the two mother rivers.
Tibet's independence will only plunge Tibet and mainland China into unprecedented disasters. The 14th Dalai Lama knew it very well.
You better understand the relationship between tibet and China than other people who watch this video 😀
You are a shameless liar.China's Qing Empire invaded and illegally militarily occupied Tibet in 1725, when there was no British threat whatsoever. When the Qing Empire collapsed, the Tibetans seized the opportunity and immediately declared their restoration. However the new Chinese regime still tried to re-annex it. Then we have the communist invasion in 1950.
As a Chinese, I don't recognize China's sovereignty towards Tibet, and would never.
Happy 1000!
Thank you! Hopefully this continues!
Me (typing in google): is Tibet a country?
*THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA WANTS TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION*
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Typing in google: Mount Rushmore native scandal
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Yeah Tibet is a country under Chinese occupation
Any Chinese wanna my location 😂🤟
@@thakurswag18 because Indians are fearless👍
@@thakurswag18 Americans should give the land back to the Indians first
@@doohaeyre4063 Indians as people from India the country, um not native Americans
Atlas Pro, if Tibet is a country as you mentioned, mind if you can share with me the nations under United Nations recognise tibet as a sovereign state for academic purposes
Country /=/ Independent nation
@@raggy5328 then dixie is a country
@@gamermapper *was*
Wales is a country but not independent.
Good video ,Thank you .
Come on why did you include my home Nagaland into old Tibet map.. we Nagas and other north eastern state of India were never part of any empire before the British colonisation
@Milo Taeyang Yeah, but not of China.
Eastern himalayan ranges starting from arunachal pradesh to the arakkan mountains in myanmar, is actually the land cultural division between indian and chinese zones in east.. Though till 1900's the area was predominently tribal with animistic indegenious culture, they all are Christians now, due to british conquest of the land.... A narrow christian belt in between buddhist - Hindu/muslim majority area... The future of that area is uncertain, as christian population is not comfortable in a predominent hindu country, the same way india and pakistan got seperated, added to that the tribalism is still a major factor on these areas, which makes them not trusting and atleast some times hating other indians, and are not mingling together in general. Some groups even fight armed struggle for freedom.. Seems like india is hindu after all,every Christian muslim areas are fighting for seperation,secularism is a good term for literary use, but not pratical,as its seen so in india..!!..
@Milo Taeyang, wish i could beleive what you are saying.. And yes, arunachal pradesh is harbouring lesser anti india sentiments.. But for sure cant say that about nagas, mizos and manipuris in general..nagas are in large number in arunachal too along the eastern side, so don't know about whole of arunachal too..!!..
@Milo Taeyang, have heared that arunachal have its own religion around sun moon concept and god of rangera?.. Are those the only indegenious religions of arunachal?..
@Milo Taeyang Thanks for clarification. Arunachal still retains a lot of non-materialistic lifestyle and people are also very nice. Love Arunachal❤
The google definition makes Texas a country (as well as Vermont and Alaska), Texas has a history different from every other state, has its own state government and has a defined territory.
Texas is, to a degree, a country. State is synonymous with country, and the “United States” is a strategic union of what would be individual countries.
If by that definition, "Texas is a country," then Tibet would be a country too. Because the Tibetan Autonomous Region has its own government with its capital in Lhasa.
But we all know that neither Texas nor Tibet is a country, so therefore the definition of a country must include not just any governance, but _independent_ governance.
Nation, not county. There's nothing wrong with that definition, it's cool to view on a map of like cool cultures around the world but it just becomes arbitrary. While Arizona is a nation, so is the Navajo Nation, way more even. But the American southwest also is a nation that's part of the Mexican homeland.
@@daltonmiller5590 all those words have multiple meanings tho. While for most people, "country" means like those governments that are independent and stuff, it's not the case for the UK where Scotland is a country while not being independent at all. But honestly what's even the meaning of "independent and stuff"? There's a word for that, it's sovereign state, but it's not as common. Though sovereign states are in the UN. But how sovereign do you even have to be? Some entities have a lot of autonomy but aren't un the UN. The country of Micronesia and Niue have similar statuses but one is in the UN and not the other. But what other words are used for sovereign states? Just "state" (the state of israel lol). But as you can see in the US, its territorial divisions are also called states despite by far not being independent.
@@gamermapper This is why I really dislike the UK using "countries" as the correct term to refer to their subdivisions within the United Kingdom. I'm 99% positive that no other soveirgn country in the world uses the word "country" to refer to their subdivisions. We have words like "provinces," "states," "territories," "departments," and even the French "regions." These are words to solely refer to subdivisions within a country. Hell, you could even just call them "subdivisions."
The UK using the word "country" for their subdivisions muddles the very definition of country. Scotland is not independent (not yet at least lmao). Neither is Wales, or Northern Ireland. I don't care if it's tradition to refer to them as such. The historical era of Welsh/Scottish independence was over centuries ago. They aren't countries anymore by global definition. The UK should give it up and just start using "provinces" or something. Scottish pride will heal.
Isolated for a reason; portals behind waterfalls. Realms in the highest mountains; reason for people climbing Mount Everest where most die.
Appreciate the truth and respect the opinion from a Chinese myself. 👍👍👍
According your definition, every country who has more than 1 ethnic group should be divided into parts. Cause every ethnic group at some point of history was independent, had their own "goverment", territory, culture and language.
And whats wrong with that? Other than you're used to the world as it is
@@seandevine5836 many things. The video is basically suggesting pure ethic states around the glode, last time someone tried this in europe 6 million jews died.
@@omnomnom5359 what an unbelievably stupid opinion. If the jews had a state it wouldn't have happened. It happened precisely because they didn't have a right to self determination in their country
@@seandevine5836 Last time I checked, Arabs are angry at Israel
@@seandevine5836 then wars start
Dalai Lama never mention Tibet should be part of China. He stated that he is willing to seek autonomous Tibet with condition that Tibet was an independent country.
So true
Autonomous from which country? China? India? You are either autonomous or not part of a country.
If your hero, who shamefully given away Tawang, thinks that Tibet should be autonomous, this means he thinks that Tibet is not an independent country!
It is a nation alright but according to your hero, not a country!
Tibet was also a theocratic state that allowed Slavery with 10% noble class owned literally 100% of the land. They also practiced human sacrifice, peeled human skins and used human bones to make religious instrument. There are still plenty out there you can find and documented in books with pictures.
Lobsnag Tsering how can you be an independent country and be an autonomous region at the same time?
@HoiNam Superior Southern Chinese no matter how much you fight for China you will die eventually it's just meaningless you should work for buddhahood rather than fighting for nonsense.
it should be it's own country, free tibet
Where can I get the reference sir
Just a small remark from a social scholar: the "something in common" thing must be PERCEIVED as common by the people in question. In other words, we need a national identity, a conviction that "we belong together". Otherwise you could say that Wallonians have more in common with French than with Flanders, or Germans and Austrians, or Polen and Lithuanians are a single nation. Heck, we can even have a Russian doll national identity, as in the case of British. Scots, Welsch and English belong to British nation because they believe that they do. Otherwise there would be no reason to stay in a single state.
Ya im tibetan and im amdo (the region described here in this video). All tibetans share a lot no…no….we are all one a people apart from the chinese. First of all our go to rules of a “starter pack “ of how to be a tibetan is very strong. Buddhism and i shit you not all of us have tibetan buddhism in our hearts and our homes. The dalai lama is our god in human form …AND THAT IS THE BIGGEST COMMON THING THAT ALL TIBETANS SHARE…that and everything he preaches about compassion and love.
I hope you have English subtitles, for non-English speakers and those with hearing problem. Great vid by the way.
Thank you! I haven't really looked into subtitles or anything yet, but I'm pretty sure youtube makes them automatically. I'll look into it though!
Atlas Pro Apparantly RUclips thinks you speak Portuguese
say what?
Atlas Pro The auto-generated captions default to Portuguese, for some reason.
P.S. Excellent channel, btw. Really great work from your end. Keep it up!
haha strange, nothing I can do about that I guess. Thank you!
Anyways if you have any questions, I myself am I tibetan, just reply to this comment if you have any questions.
He gave the recommendation to talk to someone from Tibet, which I think is absolutely the right thing to do. However, one thing to keep in mind is that unless you are going to China, most Tibetans you meet outside of China are part of a very small minority, and much of that demographic left Tibet due to reasons that often put them in contention with the CCP. 94% of Tibetans are not outside of Tibet. As far as I know, there is no reliable poll to show what Tibetans actually think.
I once stayed with a family in Tibet for a few weeks. Interesting that AtlasPro mentioned that you could get arrested for a portrait of the Dalai Lama because that is exactly what this family had up in their main room. We mostly talked about everyday things. I learned how to make yogurt and had the best lamb I've ever eaten. But we also sometimes talked about more interesting topics. They told me about how the kids of the town engage in ethnic group based brawls (this was a town in north Tibet where there were sizeable Hui and Han populations), they told me stories of PLA mass executions. But they also told me that they know that their lives are way better now than they would have been if the CCP hadn't taken over, given their status, and that they know their history. I know this is super anecdotal but I really do wonder what the actual public opinion within Tibet really is.
This sounds absolutely horrible. Which kind of heartless people accept mass executions and ethnic brawls for a bit more money? I'd rather live without electricity and running water, but in freedon and peace.
Same with the Dalai Lama, he is an oxymoron.
The thing people gloss over is that the average Tibetans don't care about being independent. It's just not important to them. The people who want independence are mainly Lamas who missed their days of glory and want to treat the average Tibetans as serfs. Tibet was a hellhole before the CCP took over.
More confused than when I started trying to figure out about Tibet !
For your information NEPAL was never part of Tibet however Nepali currency used to be used in Tibet. Tibet's king married Bhrikuti from Nepal....
@@tomallen1357 lol nobody cares pussy
@@tyhgj it was tributary state but never a puppet
@@tomallen1357 whats wrong about nepal mate
@Kunal Sahani what does that mean
I hve heard the whole earth is nepal🤣🤣
This title is like：
'Is California Republic a Country？'
I’m from Tibetan and it’s amazing to see.someone talk about my country
One clear fact is that Tibet has been a country for much of history. In China, the Communist Party teaches Chinese people that Tibet (along with other regions such as Xinjiang) has been a part of China for thousands of years. That’s an enormous lie. The Communists are not honest about the fact that Tibet and these other territories were originally other countries, which were much later conquered by China.
@am c why are you glorifying a country annexing other nations on a platform your platform outright banned and requires you to use a VPN to even access?
like i understand nationalism, but this is on the level of saying europe controlling 90% of the planet was a good thing (since colonialism is just annexing a lot of territory into autonomous regions), this is a direct infringement of the right to self determinism.
if you want to love your nation then that's fine, i'm proud to be british despite condemning the famines and autrocities in their past and shitty leadership now, and that's because i've learnt to seperate government from state, china has always been powerful due to the people in there, to such a point that overthrowing dynasties from expired holy mandates was the norm.
the neo-communist government has broken the "holy mandate" by oppressing the Uyghurs in the same way the nationalist government broken theirs with the yellowstone river flood, a government is supposed to serve the people of its nation, not harm them.
also stop pushing chinas shit on us, it's fucking disrespectful to our cultures for you chinease to say sovereng nations like taiwan which we are allied with are a part of your nation when literally all but one of the occupied/claimed nations want nothing to do with mainland china and have been fighting to emphasise that fact,
@am c research wisely?
i pointed out that there's resistance (tibetten government in exile as explained in the video, taiwan being governed by the old nationalist government, hong kong protests, like have you seen my profile pic?
i talked about actual history like the yellowstone river flood of WW2, the holy mandates that the emperors used to justify their rule, what more do you fucking want from me? to point out the last emporor was enlisted by the japanease to administer the occupied region of manchuquo?
instead of acting like i'm a dipshit foregner why don't you explain to me why you support your governments decisions? cause as i already explained before, i'm proud british but i celebrate shit like stopping the nazis not the atrocities of our occupations, you can pick and choose what things you support, in fact having opinions is the thing that seperates us from every other animal, so genuinly instead of (rightfully) bashing my forefathers, why do you support your current leaders?
Tibet is part of China, simple question. Why? In Qing dynasty( about 200-300 years ago), The emperor already had very strong control on Tibet and The emperor built TWO large palaces in Chengde city, Hebei province for the leaders in Tibet, if you dont believe, google The Putuo Zongcheng Temple in Chengde city . How sad that some people know nothing about Tibet and make rumors spread.
@@jricky7981 i don't think the argument is if tibet is a part of china, the fact that india, chinas rival in the region had reconised their sovereignty over it is evidence of that.
the question is whether they should, in the same way europeans forcing their beliefs down the throats of regions majoritively filled with minorities and limit their personal freedoms, chinas doing the same with tibet forcing athiesm onto tibet and creating laws against fucking reincarnation.
people quite rightfully see china as an oppressive force and are very morality minded, hence the phrase "free tibet" instead of "hey china stop cliaming this territory as yours like you do with taiwan", it's not a territorial issue, it's a humanitarian one.
As if western countries never invaded other nations and acted as the judge.... Should US intruders kill local indians? Should UK invaded many african countries and Asian ciountries? obviously you should see what awful things your government had done before commenting on other countries.