I could've sworn that the UCP buffed the black hole by lowering its capacity, bumping its recharge rate, and lowering the delay. I might be confusing it with some other mod but it would be 10x better if it did.
Based off the UCP 5.0 changelong, nope! No changes to the BH. However, I have not looked into BL2Fix too in-depth and that may have changed it? Don't think so though.
Hey man, I get that you’re trying to make the blackhole viable but don’t you think the transformer could be more useful? You still get to pull everything together with the quasar and regenerate it’s capacity with blood bath plus you get the added survivability from the regen of the transformer from the shock dmg. Great video btw
Yea, the Transformer could maybe work as well? I know there are some interesting builds out there with it. I was mainly just trying to test the viability of the blackhole here but I'd imagine the Transformer could work and would not surprise me if it was better.
Hey there, long time from the last build :) awfully nice of you to publish a video of my favourite VH on my birthday! As always nice idea, nice gameplay. On to my usual wall of text :P First of all you are totally right in saying that the Black Hole only works partially for this (as you already said Gaige is your girl for that), but if you want to keep up the Shock theme going I can recommend the WTF instead. You can cheat your abnormally long delay by catching the boosters in midair, it's more survivable and it will accomplish some amazing crowd control (no grouping though, toss an extra Quasar instead). It might be interesting to use the Black Hole in a Melee/ Bloodsplosion build, just to initiate fights. Then instead of the Badaboom I would use a Tediore Slag E-Tech Launcher, it will help slagging groups and you can use the reload as your FFYL trump card thanks to Blood Filled Magazines ^^ For skills, a quick reminder that Burn Baby Burn will reduce Krieg's self-immolate damage (it's an unlisted effect) and I would give the point in Flame Flare to Hellfire Halitosis if you are in close quarters. Reason being that with the UCP it absolutely incinerates shield-less targets and with a Shock build most things will lose their shields quickly ;) Good to see some more builds man, keep it up :D
Happy birthday my friend! I agree with your sentiments though, that is some quality insight. I think the Black Hole is ultimately kind of a niche shield on Krieg but it can be interesting. I believe I mentioned it in the video as well but it is a really good initiation tool. I think you could start a map with the black hole and a few quasars and then switch back to the RR.
@@squeekcheesetaker6593 Given how picky Krieg is regarding to shields I think that's pretty rad if you can make it work :D Try the WTF, with the UCP is absolutely hilarious, bounces people left and right like ragdolls! Keep up the good work ^^
I feel like legendary nova shields should have more novas. Flame of the firehawk is the only legendary nova that actually feels legendary to me. Deadly Bloom and Love Thumper somehow feel like better nova shields than black hole which doesn't sit right with me. Plus if you think about it: what character was that shield even made for? If anyone wants to pull enemies into him its Krieg, and yet the 1 nova + slow recharge speed on him makes it so hard to use on him. If it worked similar to Flame of the Firehawk but with slower nova rate, I think it'd actually be pretty good on him
Hmm, it works fine for me? I haven't updated my UCP in a while and have recently gotten some friends set up with it no problem. What kind of error are you getting?
@@krustykrusader1702 Yep, common issue! You need to go into BLCMM, open your patch, go to tools, then there should be an option like "mod game or make game ready for modding" (can't remember), reapply the hex edit, save and close. Try again! Should work after that.
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He is running BL2fix which does change dedicated drop rates for sure. I don't remember if it messes with world drops but I wouldn't be surprised if it did.
Other commentor is correct, BL2Fix messes with drop rates and ramps them up based on your level. So... at OP10 you're getting drops very frequently. UCP + BL2Fix also change drop pools to give dedicated loot pools to just about every boss/mini boss.
Yea, for a multitude of reasons, this shield just doesn't work that well on Krieg. You're sacrificing major parts of his kit to make it "work" either way so it's kind of a lose-lose. I think it could be a good shield to initiate a fight with a bunch of mobs and then just switch off it tbh.
you need a shock version of flame of the fire hawk not black hole for your needs... and "shock build".... "i put my shock bone away" looks kinda... florentine needs shock bone to shine
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Game straight up said: "Here! Have a better slag weapon."
because florentine's main purpose is not slag obvios slagga slags better
Glad your still uploading :)
haha of course! I'll be around (:
Cool idea. I always enjoy seeing the black hole getting some use. Even if it wasn’t the most optimal.
It's a cool shield and was hoping for better results! It's not like awful just too niche to work often imo.
I could've sworn that the UCP buffed the black hole by lowering its capacity, bumping its recharge rate, and lowering the delay. I might be confusing it with some other mod but it would be 10x better if it did.
Based off the UCP 5.0 changelong, nope! No changes to the BH. However, I have not looked into BL2Fix too in-depth and that may have changed it? Don't think so though.
Hey man, I get that you’re trying to make the blackhole viable but don’t you think the transformer could be more useful? You still get to pull everything together with the quasar and regenerate it’s capacity with blood bath plus you get the added survivability from the regen of the transformer from the shock dmg. Great video btw
Yea, the Transformer could maybe work as well? I know there are some interesting builds out there with it. I was mainly just trying to test the viability of the blackhole here but I'd imagine the Transformer could work and would not surprise me if it was better.
Impressive
Thank you! Glad you liked it!
Call it a Blitz Krieg 😉
TRU
Hey there, long time from the last build :) awfully nice of you to publish a video of my favourite VH on my birthday! As always nice idea, nice gameplay. On to my usual wall of text :P
First of all you are totally right in saying that the Black Hole only works partially for this (as you already said Gaige is your girl for that), but if you want to keep up the Shock theme going I can recommend the WTF instead. You can cheat your abnormally long delay by catching the boosters in midair, it's more survivable and it will accomplish some amazing crowd control (no grouping though, toss an extra Quasar instead). It might be interesting to use the Black Hole in a Melee/ Bloodsplosion build, just to initiate fights.
Then instead of the Badaboom I would use a Tediore Slag E-Tech Launcher, it will help slagging groups and you can use the reload as your FFYL trump card thanks to Blood Filled Magazines ^^
For skills, a quick reminder that Burn Baby Burn will reduce Krieg's self-immolate damage (it's an unlisted effect) and I would give the point in Flame Flare to Hellfire Halitosis if you are in close quarters. Reason being that with the UCP it absolutely incinerates shield-less targets and with a Shock build most things will lose their shields quickly ;)
Good to see some more builds man, keep it up :D
Happy birthday my friend! I agree with your sentiments though, that is some quality insight. I think the Black Hole is ultimately kind of a niche shield on Krieg but it can be interesting. I believe I mentioned it in the video as well but it is a really good initiation tool. I think you could start a map with the black hole and a few quasars and then switch back to the RR.
@@squeekcheesetaker6593 Given how picky Krieg is regarding to shields I think that's pretty rad if you can make it work :D Try the WTF, with the UCP is absolutely hilarious, bounces people left and right like ragdolls! Keep up the good work ^^
I feel like legendary nova shields should have more novas. Flame of the firehawk is the only legendary nova that actually feels legendary to me. Deadly Bloom and Love Thumper somehow feel like better nova shields than black hole which doesn't sit right with me.
Plus if you think about it: what character was that shield even made for? If anyone wants to pull enemies into him its Krieg, and yet the 1 nova + slow recharge speed on him makes it so hard to use on him. If it worked similar to Flame of the Firehawk but with slower nova rate, I think it'd actually be pretty good on him
Is the UCP mod not currently up to date in comparison to the current steam update? I can't get the patch to work.
Hmm, it works fine for me? I haven't updated my UCP in a while and have recently gotten some friends set up with it no problem. What kind of error are you getting?
@@squeekcheesetaker6593 typing "exec patch.txt" in the command window just ends up with "say exec patch.txt" showing up below it.
@@krustykrusader1702 Yep, common issue! You need to go into BLCMM, open your patch, go to tools, then there should be an option like "mod game or make game ready for modding" (can't remember), reapply the hex edit, save and close. Try again! Should work after that.
@@squeekcheesetaker6593 Alright, thank you!
What mod tells what parts your guns have?
bl-sdk.github.io/mods/PythonPartNotifier/
It's a Python mod! You'll need to look up how to mod BL2 with Python to use it, not an expert there myself!
I have a problem with BL2Fix and UCP where when both are active I can’t apply any elemental effects.
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Try this and let me know if the image works. Just follow it exactly!
might be better on gaige w/ bloodsoaked shileds and a slow hand
Oh absolutely hahaha, black hole is top tier on Gaige. This was just an experiment really!
Did you have anything that changed world drop rates or were those legit lmao
He is running BL2fix which does change dedicated drop rates for sure. I don't remember if it messes with world drops but I wouldn't be surprised if it did.
Other commentor is correct, BL2Fix messes with drop rates and ramps them up based on your level. So... at OP10 you're getting drops very frequently. UCP + BL2Fix also change drop pools to give dedicated loot pools to just about every boss/mini boss.
Would it even matter if you take away feed the meat and embrace the pain? You're going to be on fire regardless so you can't recharge your shield
That seems to be mainly for other circumstances, such as when running between fights
Yea, for a multitude of reasons, this shield just doesn't work that well on Krieg. You're sacrificing major parts of his kit to make it "work" either way so it's kind of a lose-lose. I think it could be a good shield to initiate a fight with a bunch of mobs and then just switch off it tbh.
you need a shock version of flame of the fire hawk not black hole for your needs...
and "shock build".... "i put my shock bone away" looks kinda...
florentine needs shock bone to shine
Heh yea shock bone really hurt my survivability with the build.
this gameplay is shockingly good
Thank you sir!
@@squeekcheesetaker6593 I meant that in a 'punny' way but seriously
Haha I know and appreciate the pun as well 🔥🔥
Make this build but on gaige lol
I am like 99% sure I have a Gaige build on my channel running the Black Hole. Maybe not though? Spoiler alert though, it's good!
What's going on here
What do you mean? Just a shock Krieg build 👀👀 nothing too crazy