It looks like all of Edvinsson’s weaknesses are things he will learn with better coaching and time on the ice. He has the traits like size and skating that you can’t teach. He’s gonna be a nice fit playing next to Seider in a couple years. You should make a video breaking down Cossa’s game
@@iprey4surf i don't think so I think the Wings will probably give him a year in grand rapids to play top minutes and work on his defense. He'll probably get a look on the team towards the end of season though and definitely could earn a spot on the team going forwards
Edvinsson in really good in SHL this season. However I'm very unsure of Cossa. I think it was a mistake to not draft Wahlstedt who I believe is the next Lundqvist. Wahlstedt is having great numbers playing as goalie in the SHL.
@@killacamiscoolio I know Raymond;s case isn't too common for Stevie and company but Edvinsson is playing amazing lately. I wouldn't be surprised if he shows out in training camp and preseason if he doesn't make the squad right away. Gr wouldn't be bad either. But if he's ready, he's ready.
i can't believe this only had 300 likes??!!! this video is amazing in how technical the breakdown is. rather than the usual highlight reel and high level stats it's an actual detailed analysis. good stuff. keep it up!
As a long term Red Wings fan, the future looks very bright, and I am personally very excited about the future development of the club. In the Yzerplan we trust! LGRW! Great video! 🥅🏒 Thank You! 👍
This is one of the best and most descriptive videos I ever watched.Please fix the volume issue I could barley hear and had to turn volume thru the roof just to kinda hear what you said.I liked and subbed
I'm excited for 2022 World Juniors quickly approaching! Last year I watched every Swedes game. Fun to watch all the wings prospects playing together. I'm pretty sure Cossa is going to be picked to play for Canada this year.
Ohh how I miss the days of Lidstrom and Konstantinov pairing up. It was a devastating combo. Detroit lost one of the great defensemen in Konstantinov way too early. Then, I believe we had a budding Norris Trophy candidate in Jiri Fischer and we saw what happened to him. I think losing Fischer hurt the Wings more than what most people believed. I can only imagine what that 2002 team would have looked like with Konstantinov. No matter how good this pairing becomes, nothing with match the Nick and Vlad combo. Lidstroms ultra skilled vision and ability and Vlads WWE style of play exhausted teams night after night.
I'm no. 13 (of course). But I said the same thing all these years.... The end of the Russian 5, was the end of a potential DYNASTY! Fedorov would have seriously benefited. And it's debatable whether we would have needed Chelios. Fischer was on his way to being a Norris contender, when his career ended. And it was sad and painful to see. It's incredible, that the Wings did as well as they did.... without them. 😔 GO WINGS!!
its been a really long time -i do not recall them being a regular pairing - what i do remember is Lidstrom's game took a step to the next level after playing with Larry Murphy for a couple years . Those two played a more similar game - they both were superior skaters , puck handlers - never thru bone crushing hits but used excellent positioning - and stick skills to defend . But your point that Konstantinov never got to fulfill his promising career is true - he definitely made people think twice about skating with their heads down . I might add that Uwe Kruup had been signed as a free agent - he was a very good dman also - that was never really fullfilled - that is clouded in controversy but the point is the team overcame a lot of hardships on the way to those championships
@@MagnusOphiuchus-XIII Chelios trade was only done to cover for the loss of Konstantinov - obviously he was considered a short term fix because he was what 38 when that trade was made but obviously his conditioning and overall skill and competitiveness allowed him to be a valuable player for much longer . Still would have been better if Konstantinov would have been able to fulfill his potential - personally i am biased but i thought he was ready for a Norris and maybe a HOF career . still such a tragedy . you are correct Fischer was expected to be the next great - alas he had that heart problem - that is a missed story of the redwings dynasty
If Vladdy was not injured we would have won 3 more cups easily he was a reconing ball and we would of have had Kronwal learning much more from the vlad. ...plus he would have loved Pavel on his team...
Looks like we're just a couple of months away from seeing more of him with the big club. The Wings aren't winning any championships anytime soon but it's fun watching Yzerman built this team. I'm having fun tracking new players and seeing them grow.
Wow.... this kid is really something! Can't wait to see how he fares on North American Ice. If he is as good as he is on European ice... man! The upside is unlimited. Offensively, at least.
great analysis - of the many positive offensive attributes you described here - i wonder if he will be capable of playing the bumper position on a power play . seems like his puck handling , passing and vision would be ideal for that - it is usually played by a forward but he might be good for it . the continued importance placed on special teams - that all important position on PP could really add value to this player IMO
He's a complimentary piece to Mo Seider's game. Seider is extremely poised and defensively sound and makes next to no mistakes. Ed takes a bit more of the dangerous approach but he's good at it and also activates offensively much more frequently. Their skill sets compliment each other nicely. I wouldn't say they play alot like eachother though.
I like the idea of Simon and mo being mirror images. Kind of a contrast between the dark and light. Someone needs to make a Photoshop of them as an angel and devil.
This video reminds me a lot of a young Nikola Jokic. He would make passes that you couldn't believe, but he would also do some dumb stuff on defense. With this kind of vision, I think defense has to improve over time. He may never get to an elite level, but he should be good enough that he's still a positive player
Glad you like them! Check out our playlists and subscribe to our channel to be notified when we post a new video. We already have videos on Bedard and Michkov for 2023 and about ten so far on this year's draft class for you and we'll be adding more over these next few months. As far as becoming a scout, start writing down your notes and observations and publish on free channels - Twitter, RUclips, a blog, etc - and people will either find you or you'll have a track record of work to send out for consideration. Good luck!
he looks like a good defender, but a lot of his game comes from the space of the game that can be created. The SHL has bigger ice, lets see if hell be able to translate his game to the NHL size ice.
Great suggestion! We also already have two Film Room articles about him on EP Rinkside: eprinkside.com/2021/10/29/is-william-eklund-already-part-of-san-joses-core eprinkside.com/2021/02/17/why-william-eklund-is-the-no-1-ranked-prospect-on-the-eliteprospects-2021-nhl-draft-board
I feel like you evaluate this 18-19 year old kid like he's already in the NHL. Idk if that's the goal or not but his skating is elite.So I feel like he'll be great at all facets of the game given real coaching.
Curious....do you think they don't have real coaches in the SHL? Because Roger Rönnberg - the head coach in Frölunda, where Edvinsson plays - is one of the best in the business and, not only does have have an abundance of experience developing young talent at an elite level, but he also has the trophy case to back it up. www.eliteprospects.com/staff/155/roger-ronnberg There are plenty of "real" coaches outside the NHL.
9:39 doesn’t make that much sense. Should the bad be good because he is eliminating the slot shot and is forcing him down and around the net. Yes he did get burned/juked but I see that as following puck not chest.
Side fact about Paul Coffey. Did you know he wore his skates two sizes too small. He laced his skates up so tight he had to cut the laces to get them off.
Hard to say... They would be two absolute beasts I just think Ed would a better point producer at least but very very talented pairing that's so exciting
He should have gone 2nd overall. He was such a great prospect prior to the draft, I honestly think Simon Edvinsson will be the best defensemen out of the 2021 draft.
Several things. Holding onto the puck too long instead of making a timely pass. Getting isolated while with the puck and sending passes to nowhere. Trying to do too much and ultimately being labeled as aggressive and chasing the puck. Not using his skating and body to get into optimal position. From what I read no one discredited his work inside the blueline and ability to shut down opponents.
edvinsson brings hope to sweden. sweden has fallen of the earth the last 10 years and is not even a top 15 hockey nation. edvinsson and raymond could take the swedes into germany level
@@doomass4ever that's not how you measure a hockey nation! You measure it with international games. Of course having NHL players can help there. But they aren't always needed *cough cough* 2019 *cough* Finland
@@topiheimola69 I'm sorry, don't want to be this nationalist comment section moron (I'm half finnish myself). I just had to response to some outrageous claims that germany is a better hockey nation than sweden probably made by a german 12-year old
It looks like all of Edvinsson’s weaknesses are things he will learn with better coaching and time on the ice. He has the traits like size and skating that you can’t teach. He’s gonna be a nice fit playing next to Seider in a couple years. You should make a video breaking down Cossa’s game
He'll be on the squad next season
@@iprey4surf i don't think so I think the Wings will probably give him a year in grand rapids to play top minutes and work on his defense. He'll probably get a look on the team towards the end of season though and definitely could earn a spot on the team going forwards
Edvinsson in really good in SHL this season. However I'm very unsure of Cossa. I think it was a mistake to not draft Wahlstedt who I believe is the next Lundqvist. Wahlstedt is having great numbers playing as goalie in the SHL.
@@killacamiscoolio I know Raymond;s case isn't too common for Stevie and company but Edvinsson is playing amazing lately. I wouldn't be surprised if he shows out in training camp and preseason if he doesn't make the squad right away. Gr wouldn't be bad either. But if he's ready, he's ready.
@@iprey4surf don’t plan on that. He’s signed in Sweden until 2023!
I think NHL GMs are wishing they had payed more attention to Moritz Seider while evaluating players that year. Kid looks like an All Star as a rookie.
Huge Detroit fan, wasn’t super high on him but three games in to his career and he’s been really unbelievably good
He’s been crazy good over in the SHL this year. Him and Seider first paring in the future makes me 🤤 🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤
It is pretty great so far
i can't believe this only had 300 likes??!!! this video is amazing in how technical the breakdown is. rather than the usual highlight reel and high level stats it's an actual detailed analysis. good stuff. keep it up!
Glad you liked it!
I agree!
As a long term Red Wings fan, the future looks very bright, and I am personally very excited about the future development of the club.
In the Yzerplan we trust!
LGRW!
Great video! 🥅🏒
Thank You! 👍
Absolutely! Trust the Yzerplan!
Just lol at the dyno he built in Tampa..rolling to a possible....I won't say it..
I've been looking for an awesome film room type style hockey channel forever man. Thank you for what you do. Never clicked like and subscribe so fast.
We love to see this! Thanks!
I'm loving watching the Wings this season and I can't wait to see Edvinson join the team! We will be a team to be reckoned with soon!! Go Wings!!!
This is one of the best and most descriptive videos I ever watched.Please fix the volume issue I could barley hear and had to turn volume thru the roof just to kinda hear what you said.I liked and subbed
Fix the volume please
I'm excited for 2022 World Juniors quickly approaching! Last year I watched every Swedes game. Fun to watch all the wings prospects playing together. I'm pretty sure Cossa is going to be picked to play for Canada this year.
This kid should be a scout, I Played for 20 years. This kid really gets it
Ohh how I miss the days of Lidstrom and Konstantinov pairing up. It was a devastating combo. Detroit lost one of the great defensemen in Konstantinov way too early. Then, I believe we had a budding Norris Trophy candidate in Jiri Fischer and we saw what happened to him. I think losing Fischer hurt the Wings more than what most people believed. I can only imagine what that 2002 team would have looked like with Konstantinov. No matter how good this pairing becomes, nothing with match the Nick and Vlad combo. Lidstroms ultra skilled vision and ability and Vlads WWE style of play exhausted teams night after night.
I'm no. 13 (of course). But I said the same thing all these years.... The end of the Russian 5, was the end of a potential DYNASTY! Fedorov would have seriously benefited. And it's debatable whether we would have needed Chelios. Fischer was on his way to being a Norris contender, when his career ended. And it was sad and painful to see. It's incredible, that the Wings did as well as they did.... without them. 😔 GO WINGS!!
its been a really long time -i do not recall them being a regular pairing - what i do remember is Lidstrom's game took a step to the next level after playing with Larry Murphy for a couple years . Those two played a more similar game - they both were superior skaters , puck handlers - never thru bone crushing hits but used excellent positioning - and stick skills to defend . But your point that Konstantinov never got to fulfill his promising career is true - he definitely made people think twice about skating with their heads down . I might add that Uwe Kruup had been signed as a free agent - he was a very good dman also - that was never really fullfilled - that is clouded in controversy but the point is the team overcame a lot of hardships on the way to those championships
@@MagnusOphiuchus-XIII Chelios trade was only done to cover for the loss of Konstantinov - obviously he was considered a short term fix because he was what 38 when that trade was made but obviously his conditioning and overall skill and competitiveness allowed him to be a valuable player for much longer . Still would have been better if Konstantinov would have been able to fulfill his potential - personally i am biased but i thought he was ready for a Norris and maybe a HOF career . still such a tragedy . you are correct Fischer was expected to be the next great - alas he had that heart problem - that is a missed story of the redwings dynasty
If Vladdy was not injured we would have won 3 more cups easily he was a reconing ball and we would of have had Kronwal learning much more from the vlad. ...plus he would have loved Pavel on his team...
@@thirdeyeordie8226 Pavel would have had more time and space to burn opponents.
This kid has mad skills!!!
Quality stuff guys, love the content
Looks like we're just a couple of months away from seeing more of him with the big club. The Wings aren't winning any championships anytime soon but it's fun watching Yzerman built this team. I'm having fun tracking new players and seeing them grow.
Wow.... this kid is really something! Can't wait to see how he fares on North American Ice. If he is as good as he is on European ice... man! The upside is unlimited. Offensively, at least.
An Edvidsson-Seider pair 😁
great analysis - of the many positive offensive attributes you described here - i wonder if he will be capable of playing the bumper position on a power play . seems like his puck handling , passing and vision would be ideal for that - it is usually played by a forward but he might be good for it . the continued importance placed on special teams - that all important position on PP could really add value to this player IMO
Can't wait to see this guy teamed with Seider
He plays a lot like Mo Seider.
What a great video!
Thanks!
He's a complimentary piece to Mo Seider's game. Seider is extremely poised and defensively sound and makes next to no mistakes. Ed takes a bit more of the dangerous approach but he's good at it and also activates offensively much more frequently. Their skill sets compliment each other nicely. I wouldn't say they play alot like eachother though.
@@thenickfoxx yeah i was gonna say they're pretty opposite.
Glad you liked it!
@@thenickfoxx this is exactly right.
I like the idea of Simon and mo being mirror images. Kind of a contrast between the dark and light. Someone needs to make a Photoshop of them as an angel and devil.
voice is really quiet on this. you should boost it in the future
Great video overview. Subscribed and hope more of this.
Steve Yzerman really turning around the Red Wings it's nice to see
I had to buy hearing aids to listen to this video, but it was worth it.
I prefer hearing hiv, but that's ok
Seider in OT again!
Was waiting for a vid like this.. thx
Hope you enjoyed it!
@@EliteProspectsHockey where would you place Simon amongst all active defensive prospects not in the NHL
Detroit's first pairing. Congrats.
Great breakdown
This video reminds me a lot of a young Nikola Jokic. He would make passes that you couldn't believe, but he would also do some dumb stuff on defense. With this kind of vision, I think defense has to improve over time. He may never get to an elite level, but he should be good enough that he's still a positive player
Really like these videos, needa make more for 2022 and 2023 prospects
Also how could i look into becoming a scout?
Glad you like them! Check out our playlists and subscribe to our channel to be notified when we post a new video. We already have videos on Bedard and Michkov for 2023 and about ten so far on this year's draft class for you and we'll be adding more over these next few months.
As far as becoming a scout, start writing down your notes and observations and publish on free channels - Twitter, RUclips, a blog, etc - and people will either find you or you'll have a track record of work to send out for consideration. Good luck!
Audio is super low.. otherwise, great vid
he looks like a good defender, but a lot of his game comes from the space of the game that can be created. The SHL has bigger ice, lets see if hell be able to translate his game to the NHL size ice.
he is from the some club as erik karlsson rasmus dhalin and the king of new york henrik lundqvist jon klingberg and lucas reymond
This video is superb. Ty
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video!
Awesome breakdown! Now do one for Eklund 😜
Great suggestion! We also already have two Film Room articles about him on EP Rinkside:
eprinkside.com/2021/10/29/is-william-eklund-already-part-of-san-joses-core
eprinkside.com/2021/02/17/why-william-eklund-is-the-no-1-ranked-prospect-on-the-eliteprospects-2021-nhl-draft-board
I think he looks very promising but it might take a couple years in AHL for him to adjust his game to the smaller ice size.
I feel like you evaluate this 18-19 year old kid like he's already in the NHL. Idk if that's the goal or not but his skating is elite.So I feel like he'll be great at all facets of the game given real coaching.
Curious....do you think they don't have real coaches in the SHL?
Because Roger Rönnberg - the head coach in Frölunda, where Edvinsson plays - is one of the best in the business and, not only does have have an abundance of experience developing young talent at an elite level, but he also has the trophy case to back it up.
www.eliteprospects.com/staff/155/roger-ronnberg
There are plenty of "real" coaches outside the NHL.
He has a good mentor in Christian Folin
a video like this on cale makar please
Very quiet video. Had volume on max to hear.
Great video.
9:39 doesn’t make that much sense. Should the bad be good because he is eliminating the slot shot and is forcing him down and around the net. Yes he did get burned/juked but I see that as following puck not chest.
He’s almost like a 6’4” Paul Coffey out there
Except he's 6'6
Side fact about Paul Coffey. Did you know he wore his skates two sizes too small. He laced his skates up so tight he had to cut the laces to get them off.
@@nicktarnowski7069 I thought so but I read somewhere he was 6’4”
@@nickolaibuck9301 he was on draft day...he grew lol
Now currently 6.5 ft ^^
mo will break him in when he gets there 🤔👍
They will be in the same team? I don’t think so
The audio is so bad
better than Moritz?
Hard to say... They would be two absolute beasts I just think Ed would a better point producer at least but very very talented pairing that's so exciting
The positive thing is Simon is doing what Seider was doing in the SHL and Simon is a year younger doing it!
@@rawrsinji pointswise, yes.
Moritz has less holes in his game, edvinsson has more offensive creativity
imo
Think I did win some trophy, because there was 999 likes before my 1000th like. :D
Subtle interference in a Red Wings player? Edzo is gonna hate on this guy.
Wonder why he dropped so much in the draft
It was a weird draft year due to many leagues not playing because of covid
He should have gone 2nd overall. He was such a great prospect prior to the draft, I honestly think Simon Edvinsson will be the best defensemen out of the 2021 draft.
Several things. Holding onto the puck too long instead of making a timely pass. Getting isolated while with the puck and sending passes to nowhere. Trying to do too much and ultimately being labeled as aggressive and chasing the puck. Not using his skating and body to get into optimal position.
From what I read no one discredited his work inside the blueline and ability to shut down opponents.
He didn’t drop that far he was the 6th pick.
I think I read Dallas listed him 1st overall on their list prior the draft.
speak louder
god those jerseys are terrible.
VI ÄR FRÖLUNDA
@@AH13371 I mean the advertisements
@@yesnooo9029 Fair enough, look into the future in regards to NHL unis
Frolunda’s logo is cool, but the advertisements are terrible. Lol
edvinsson brings hope to sweden. sweden has fallen of the earth the last 10 years and is not even a top 15 hockey nation. edvinsson and raymond could take the swedes into germany level
Lol
Swedish players in the NHL: 90
German players in the NHL: 6
Ratio
@@doomass4ever that's not how you measure a hockey nation! You measure it with international games. Of course having NHL players can help there. But they aren't always needed *cough cough* 2019 *cough* Finland
@@topiheimola69 karjala cup this year cough
@@topiheimola69 I'm sorry, don't want to be this nationalist comment section moron (I'm half finnish myself). I just had to response to some outrageous claims that germany is a better hockey nation than sweden probably made by a german 12-year old
Great video!