I'm one of the few people I know who don't own a Glock. I went with Sig Sauer instead. I have a P229 with the .40 barrel, a 9mm barrel and a .357 Sig barrel, I have several choices of ammo I can shoot with 1 gun.
I fall into that group of experienced shooters, I started when I was 13 and going on 70 now. My CC pistol's have been Walther's and now a Glock. I agree one must be vigilant when using the Glock, but boy does that Glock run smooth and eats any ammo I put through it. Be safe and be responsible.
When I took my first firearms training class, the instructor said he was not a fan of manual safeties unless you practiced flicking it off and on until it was second nature. He said that without that muscle memory, that split second you forget the safety is on and try to shoot, could be life threatening. Also, I think having to pull the trigger to take apart a Glock for cleaning has a lot to do with people accidentally discharging the weapon, too.
checking the chamber is Safety First. Same for 'fanning' the barrel end across the body of others with finger on That TRIGGER! I've seen a wee stumble on uneven ground sent a wayward projectile to an Unwanted Zip Code!
first step when cleaning or doing maintenance is making sure the firearm is unloaded and there is no live ammo in your work space ....... next, whoever so called "trained" you is a clown, the safety comes off as you begin to clear the firearm from the holster, should be simultaneous as you clear the muzzle past the mouth of the holster and just before you drop the elbow, which allows you to fire from midline if needed while driving the gun into sight alignment and completing the draw stroke. find a better instructor, that's not a reason to carry a Glock over anything with a safety on the side of the slide or on the rear of the grip. Semper Fi
@@stevej9636 Safeties are in partnership with a 1911, hand controls the Safety Drop before aiming at a preferred point of sim. Keeps extraneous movement to minimum.. Train and Train presentation to avoid error. Magazine change while keeping Both eyes on the target. Whether a paper one or a live combatant/ dangerous person
Taught me to bloom Yes we should check to make sure it is unloaded and clear before disassembly but..people carry with one in the chamber and they just drop the magazine and proceed to disassemble..2 of my coworkers had a accidental discharge during the trigger pull stage.. 1 shot his buddy in the lower abdomen the other shot himself in the upper thigh.
My wife is a first time gun owner. At my recommendation she got a S&W EZ WITHOUT the manuel safety. My concern is anyone experienced or not could easily forget about a safety in a stressful situation. If a person carrys a gun with a manuel safety they should train with it.
Train with any gun. A train all the time. But yes. I do not like a safety. On my carry guns. With my AR 15 an AR10 I train with them empty on the safety.
Bingo! you build that weapons safety discipline, without a manual safety to begin with, and you drill it into them. Yes, it's a lot of responsibility, but a firearm is a lot of responsibility to begin with. Adding a manual safety to the order of operations for a novice with little training is going to hinder their ability to defend themselves. I see nothing particularly wrong if someone wants to have a manual safety as a novice, but they're going to have to drill on it more, than without, when starting.
Train train train. That the reason why military uses safeties because every joe shim volunteers but not everyone is equipped to keep the finger off the trigger.
I’ve heard arguments for and against every handgun operating feature. No matter what features are chosen using them must be practiced until it’s second nature.
Thank you. My favorite carry lately is the fn 57 and the Glock. People say they fn has a weird safety location but I’m not used to any safety so it is really about training.
@@546people Right on! I can't afford the Ruger 57 right now though I have the Security 9, just need to run it more! I'm getting tired of the all black hand guns so chrome will be a better look! Take care, stay safe and wherever you are, stock up...
I agree. It's the archer not the bow. How well a certain gun shoots depends on how much work that particular marksman puts in on getting proficient *with that specific gun*
Every Glock 22 police trade in I've ever seen was almost wore out the slide rails were worn paper thin and the guns in general was generally beat the crap I'm glad you got a good one.
I bought my Gen 3 Glock 22 used, and it was in pristine condition. Now when I bought my Gen 3 Glock 21 it had some minor wear and tear but still have not in bad shape.
Glocks were made famous in the 1998 movie “U.S. Marshals”, when Tommy Lee Jones tells Robert Downey Jr. to “Get yourself a Glock and lose that nickel plated sissy pistol." Later on Tommy Lee Jones describes Glocks to Robert Downey Jr. "These things are so cool. They shoot underwater. You can pour sand in them and they’ll shoot. They shoot every time.”
I really enjoy the channel and really appreciate the prayer ministry that you guys provide. I have a little different take on this subject. I’ve never been a Glock lover but have grown to appreciate the consistent simplicity of their products. Hopefully, all new gun owners will take the time to “get to know” whatever weapon they choose.....both at the range and at home via repeated disassembly and reassembly, dry firing, etc. I believe the lack of a manual safety is a “pro” for new gun owners.....particularly in a self defense pistol. One less thing to think about in a high stress situation. Especially if they don’t have hours and hours of trigger time to instill the muscle memory of working a safety. My wife had a thumb safety gun and many times failed to flip the safety off before her first round at the range. In a high stress self defense situation, I can see that costing someone their life. Anyway.....just another point of view. Again......appreciate the channel and the prayer ministry.
All firearms safety is is FAMILIARITY, PRACTICE AND COMMON SENSE (of course, as I always like to point out is, if SENSE were truly common EVERYONE WOULD HAVE IT "AND" KNOW HOW TO EMPLOY IT).
Been a Glock owner since the 90s & it was good enough back then & nothing has changed much so if it ain't broke don't fix it is my number 1 choice. Of course I handle guns every day so keeping my finger off the trigger is my safety that's worked for decades. Of course I give God all the credit for keeping me & my family safe each day.
If you carry properly with a holster that properly protects the trigger all of what you mentioned isn’t an issue. The last thing I want with a self defense pistol is to be trying to flip a manual safety off when I need to use it.
I addition to a good holster, taking time to visually and physically clear garments prior to reholstering. Blindly reholstering has caused some shooters grave issues.
It's all in proper training. You don't draw a pistol and then flip the manual safety off. You flip the safety off as you are drawing. It's second nature. And does not take even a hundredth of a second longer than not even having a manual safety. My first handgun was a Colt 1903, 50 years ago. If you're not used to a manual safety yeah you shouldn't be carrying it. You should not be carrying any firearm you are not familiar with. The safety trigger is basically just for manufacturers liability purposes only. The trigger can in certain situations still be actuated and cause a negligent discharge. Every once in awhile people with Glocks shoot their self. Sometimes clothing can get caught in the trigger as you are holstering your weapon. I read recently where an individual shot himself in the thigh while holstering and that was the reason. He didn't understand it because he said it had a safety trigger. That safety trigger don't mean s***.
Glock was the first handgun I purchased when I turned 21. I put it on my CCW immediately after acquiring it, and have carried one for 20 years. Keep your finger away from the trigger, never carry without a holster, and follow the basic firearms safety rules and you'll never have a negligent or accidentally discharge. Never! And if your loaded pistol is ever accessible by an unsupervised minor, you shouldn't own a gun. External safety or not. Glocks do not fire unless the trigger is pressed. Once pressed, they fire every single time without exception. Glock is a great first time pistol. Just get a little training with it to make sure you understand that guns are dangerous. External safeties have gotten people killed, too. Let's not cherry pick statistics.
I bought a 2nd gen G-19 brand new back in the 1990's. Most reliable semi-auto pistol I've ever owned. It's taken everything from 115 grain +P to 158 grain subsonics without a hiccup. As for safety, gotta know your gun and pay attention to what you're doing!
Love my Glock 19 gen 4. Had it for a few years now and no trouble at all, however I had grown up with guns and had experience. I agree somewhat but the thing here is safety, any firearm is dangerous without proper training and I think that’s where a lot of new gun owners go wrong. Training is critical with a gun with manual safety or not.
@@skipperclinton1087 that's a fallacy, I loaded it and gave it life and a name, I am the bullets father and it is on my side at all times ....................
I ended up with a couple of Rugers. The aren't perfect but they've taught me much about firearms and I'm quite comfortable using them. These are both hammer fired.
@Scott R. Honest question, what "sketchy" things have you seen/heard of in Portland (I live in Seattle WA)? Seems to be mostly Property crime in the PNW... only 1 murder every week or so here
I took my cousin to a local gun store/ range. I had her try a lot of firearms so she could see how they felt in her hand. We explained how each one worked. We told her of the benefits and minuses of each one. From there we rented out several of the ones she liked best and gave her some basics of shooting, such as lining up the sights. We also told her she should take some training classes. It took us several hours at the store/range but I believe we got her set up with a good start. Unfortunately, over the last several years she has turned into a far better shooter than I.
This is the way it should be done with any new shooter! Thank you for helping her. Now as to her shooting better than you? Let me just say this, (not a knock on you) she took classes, she didn’t come to the table with any “bad” habits that she would have to unlearn or that she could fall back into. Again not a knock or dig on you. Again thank you for sharing. Stay safe out there….
You make a lot of valid points. I'm in my 60's, been around firearms my entire life. I started with S&W revolvers and I still love them, the older ones. I have a bunch of S&W revolvers as well as semiautomatic pistols. Myself, I typically carry my Glock 43. My friends looking for a carry gun, I'll take them to the gun club and we'll shoot a variety of guns. For other folks I'd recommend a gun shop with a range where you can rent firearms, try them out and talk to the folks there about the pluses and minuses of various firearms before buying, then get some training. All it takes is a moment of not paying attention to have an accidental discharge, I had one once at the range, fortunately for me the gun was at least pointed down range. I had my finger on the trigger, a very light target trigger. Totally my fault. Not like Alec Baldwin whose gun went off without pulling the trigger. Wrong, his finger was on the trigger or it wouldn't have fired.
IMO it doesn't matter how safe someone is and how much they've been trained; they can still have a mis-fire due to any number of reasons. I few years ago I just bought a new S&W 38 special Airweight, "without thinking" pulled the trigger and shot a hole into our bed headboard. It was thick and didn't go all the way through, but what a blessing I didn't deserve and very thankful for receiving, and what a scary lesson learned!
Never had a negligent or accidental discharge in almost 30 years of Being around firearms. Lord willing that will continue. I'm anal about clearing my firearms before disassembly, and being aware of my firearm, knowing if what I got is Loaded or unloaded. I went by an older neighbors and they had a gun outside, they just finished shooting, long story short he was pointing it in the wrong positions thinking it was unloaded trying to get a Mag out, no last round hold open. I was being respectful but pushed him and got him to pull that slide and guess what, there was 1 Inside the Chamber.. I harp about Safety..
@@maptinkler Though human nature not to own up, many of us have had a close call but were under the wing of a Guardian Angel and nobody got hurt. When a volunteer group I belonged to decades ago in my old hometown was refurbishing an old police station house donated by the city to a charity, some of the crew started noticing and counting and recovering bullets and bullet holes in the walls, floors, and ceilings. As many as they discovered, undoubtedly they missed a lot more.
@@richardkluesek4301 I know for sure an inside gun range owner or worker could spend a month just describing the close calls they've encountered. The one I mostly use has to replace the target rails as a normal routine, because of wayward shots.
@@maptinkler Clubs I belonged to where I used to live also had lots of damage from wayward shots and some bizarre mishaps. When the cops were using the FBI PPC combat course, quick drawing revolvers from the holster and hip shooting, we witnessed one rookie so flustered and unsure of himself that when he drew the sidearm he flung it down range without discharging, it bounced across the concrete floor scouring the finish and breaking off the hammer spur. His own private purbahse before the City started issuing equipment. I think he eventually retired after 20 years vesting.
First carry gun is a Gen 3 G19 that I got a little bit ago. I think the main issues is people not learning how the gun works while choosing a gun, and then not training enough with it. But during the last few years, it may be out of people's price ranges to practice
And you won't have any most likely. You've been shooting long enough to most likely without thinking about it keep your finger away from the trigger. That's the main issue he's talking about in the video and something a new gun owner hasn't developed yet. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people who've never handled a gun and are handed one the first thing they do is put their finger on the trigger without even realizing it.
Being a firearms enthusiast I'm asked "what is the best gun for me" question often.I ask people do you plan on being proficient with the firearm and practice on a regular basis? Most eventually answer no, they just want to keep a gun around. I usually recommend a snub nose 38 revolver. And also a safety course.
The most important thing to remember is my favorite quote: “Keep your booger hook off the bang switch!” The most effective way to ensure you are safe with a Glock is doing daily training with an unloaded weapon with concealed draw and re-holstering it. When you feel comfortable with that, then use it as your concealed carry.
True with ANY pistol. Not only JUST training and practice, But learn HOW your pistol works mechanically so you understand the REASONS for how to handle it. Ideally, Learn the "manual of arms" for your pistol well before firing the FIRST shot, and then practice, practice, practice!
The "Booger Hook" isn't my worry, it is the part of a t shirt, shirt tail, windbreaker or draw string etc. getting near or on the "Bang Switch" on holstering, may not be much in way of feed back until it "goes bang". Does anyone live who has re holstered not looking, thinking about the last shot, target placement etc? trying to get in more practice rounds. I am still walking without a limp, but my number never came up.
You are 100% correct I own a Glock but I don’t carry it either due to safety concerns and I’ve been caring for over 40 years first time buyers it’s a terrible gun
I rented/shot various semi-auto pistols at my local range (including Glocks) but I ended up going with the Smith & Wesson M&P line. For me, it has the best grip/feel, and I was most accurate with it. Like you, I valued having a manual safety, and I appreciated the fact that S&W gave users a choice. I don't think there's right/wrong here, it just comes down to personal preference.
The M&P M2.0 line is a better made gun than the Glock in terms of quality of material used, and I also like some of the features over the Glock. It’s what I carry, and I’ve carried Glocks for years. I’ve always like the M&P line, but the M2.0 is another level all it’s own. It rivals the vaunted VP9, IMO.
I agree with you...I'm 45 and been shooting guns steadily since the age of 10. I own a Glock but I carry a Sig 365 with a manual safety...I just feel more comfortable that way
I recently bought my first Glock, a 43X. All of my previous gun purchases have had a manual safety on them. Not on purpose but just because those were the guns that I wanted at the time. Now that this Glock is my carry gun, I find myself paying a LOT more attention to the little details when it comes to loading, holstering, cleaning and handling in general. For first time gun owners, I agree 100%, a Glock is NOT the best choice. New gun owners, especially those who want to carry one everyday, instinctively want that added layer of protection. I have to admit it's still a little bit of a process for me carrying a firearm without a manual safety but, at the same time I feel like it's forcing me to be a little more careful and SAFER.
Not all new gun owners want that “added” layer of protection. That’s complete conjecture, but there is nothing wrong with anyone wanting an added measure of safety. That said, to presume summarily, as Mark has, that all new gun owners are too incompetent or not responsible enough to own a Glock is myopic at best, if not down right insulting.
I agree,Nothing wrong with safeties.. Train with what ever you buy. I think a sa/da with a decocker is a great option, because one can put the thumb on the hammer and if anything touches the trigger you will feel hammer move.. 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Love my G43. The only modification I have done it the "Glock Gadget". It will change how you holster as you will want to feel the plate as you holster for extra safety in that administrative action. Carry hot every time I step out the door.
I have had my glock 19 gen 3 since I arrived in the USA in 2008, I carry it every day, hard case, one up. In the early days I kept it in a soft holster , without a round chambered.
That's interesting, I own 2 Glocks and I'm extremely happy with them. BUT, whenever a neighbor or coworker who has no firearm experience, asks me to recommend a first firearm for home defense, I ALWAYS recommend a revolver. 4 inch barrel, Either S&W or Ruger. When I purchased my first handgun, 30 years ago, I asked a close friend who was an ex Green Beret to recommend a first handgun, that's what he recommended, and it was the right choice.
I've been into guns for about 5 years now. My first carry gun was a shield with a manual safety. Just recently bought a shield plus with a manual safety. Both are great in my opinion.
If you don't need a handgun for protection then a manual safety is a consideration. In most cases when you need to deploy a handgun for protection you will not have time to disengage the safety or if left in the off position the safety could be bumped to the on position with the same result. The first shooter with rounds on target usually wins in a gunfight.
@Sean Stevens I am a Sig owner. I have small hand and Glock's don't fit my hands. EDC is a Sig P238 .380. I also own a P365, P226 my favorite if I am going to travel some where. 21rounds gives me a advantage if I need to use it.
My first pistol ended up being a S&W Shield. I wanted a Glock 19, but there weren’t any in the shop. It ended up being a perfect handgun for me. It allowed me to get used to a small frame, learn all of the mechanics, easy takedown where you don’t need to pull the trigger to field strip it, lots of other little nuggets. I have a Glock now too, but I carry a Ruger LCP Max. Love them all for different reasons
I have a S&W Shield.45 as well and I absolutely think it is the best carry pistol on the market. I absolutely love the grit handle and best of all I love how thin the pistol is. My Shield does not have a exterior safety and I do wished it did. I bought the pistol off a buddy. I carry with one in the chamber and yes it does make me a little nervous. I have been told that there is absolutely no way that pistol will accidentally fire unless the trigger is pulled. I was told the pistol has a thick metal plate that holds the firing pin back and that metal plate will not lift unless the trigger is pulled. I think the key here is to get a very good tough holster that completely covers the trigger. Just my thoughts
@@BobY52944 same here Bob! I carry at 3:30-4 so I just feel more comfortable being able to thumb the hammer like we do. Thinking about P09 for home defense….to buy time to get to the rifles 👍
I’ve had a Glock 17 for 10yrs now and I love the platform. The safety is in the trigger one of my favorite features. I’ve trained for years to pull my gun out and shoot safely on target, your finger is the only safety you need. Don’t be scared lol. Glocks are great guns but there are a bunch out there that are just as good if not better. I’m not a fan of safety switches buttons Ect. Triggers can’t pull themselves. Learn trigger discipline.
I am with you. I have been shooting for more than 50 years and I won’t ever buy a pistol that does not have a real safety mechanism. If it was good enough for John Browning, it’s good enough for me…
Very true but it takes away some of the possibility of negligent discharge if you have an external safety. Every pistol I carry has one my Sig p365 my FN 9 and my Walther CCP The only one I have that doesn't would be my LCP 380 which I carry in a pocket holster which covers the trigger and the trigger is so heavy the odds of it going off are slim to none.
Most STRIKER FIRED guns without external safety. Hammer almost always have a heavier, longer first pull that makes them inherently more safe regarding ND's. I went with a VP9 first, which is just a much nicer Glock functionally. Ended up trading it in because I could not get the place of feeling safe with that light trigger and no safety. Makes sense to me to carry like that in combat maybe, but around town for personal defense? Not my cup of tea. It's just as important to not accidentally shoot someone as it is to shoot an actual threat.
@@curte7739 Negligent Discharge is caused by pulling the Trigger. You can also have that happen if your going around pulling the Trigger. What happens if the Safety gets flipped off without you realizing it?? Remember this little thing called muscle memory.
For my first pistol, I decided to go with 9mm and rented 5 popular brands. Tried my best to use the bullseye as the point of aim, making no adjustments, with a fresh target for each gun. Went with the one with the tightest grouping, regardless of placement on the target.
A few years ago I was at the range. Shooting in the lane next to me was a police officer shooting a Glock. After he shot about 5 rounds, his Glock fell apart. The slide came off the frame and flew about 10 feet downrange. It is a good thing that he was not in a situation where he needed that firearm for his or someone else's safety.
@KansasScout true, any gun can fail at any time. I get a laugh at some of the revolver guys that claim that revolvers never fail like semi autos, I've seen a few revolvers fail in my time.
@@NoneYaBidness762 I think a lot of times, it's probably because the person doesn't clean and properly maintain their weapons. Even a Glock needs to be maintained in order to properly work.
I love my Glock mainly because my 1911 is heavy when concealed carry. This man is 100% correct about Glocks not being for everyone. I believe practice and training no matter what you buy is important. Laser bullets for example can give an owner experience with function or potential failure without a bang. Practicing holstering with a laser bullet in many different fashions and speeds could sum up a miss fire situation before using live rounds. Bottom line is training and practice. God bless 😎
I have a G19, it was my first handgun, but I did a lot of homework and as such I only use kydex holsters and when I carry it, it is always in one of those holsters. I also carry it with one up. A glock is definitely not a gun that you want to put away loaded in a glove box, your pocket or worse, a handbag.
Having been in Law Enforcement for over 30 years, and a Firearms Instructor for about half of that time, 10 years at an academy, I have some thoughts and experiences with Glocks, as well as many other firearms. Just to keep it simple though (KISS)...At the end of the day, (IMHO) it all comes down to practice, competent training, and proficiency. That's with ANY firearm. If you're not going to go get trained, practice diligently, and be proficient, just don't buy anything. JMTC.
Agree. I spent 26 years as an LEO and a couple years into retirement now. I read lots of people say there are better options, features of newer guns, different guns, etc. Me, I'm used to handling, shooting, and comfortable performing malfunction drills, etc on the Glocks (whichever model). So my go-to handgun for self defense is a Glock.
All that experience, and you're going to hedge and not admit that the Glock requires more training, discipline and experience than many other guns? Frankly that doesn't seem honest to me. Yes, all cooking takes practice, but it's still pretty obvious that it's easier to learn scrambled eggs than Lamb vindaloo. Sure all guns require training, but it's pretty obvious that a 686 revolver or a Beretta M9 is going to be easier to carry safely than a Glock for new shooter. Many other guns on that list too, if you want something smaller. Seems you're not applying your years of experience to just say "it's all the same." You must have seen plenty to form an opinion about good first time guns.
@@Falconryder Well, I was trying to keep it short after all. To each his own, but yeah, they can be touchy if you're not...Say it with me..."Proficient".
My first was a Colt Mustang and a Para 1911. I've owned a few Glocks, but only 1 has stuck around. There are so many better pistols (in my opinion) than Glocks. Glock is rarely on my list for recommendation. In fact, I can't even remember the last time I carried my G19. The only reason I still have it is because I built it from start to finish, stippling and all. God bless
@@stmboat I don’t know. They don’t cost that much new where I am. However, if you want a pistol that is the most widely used combat pistol in the world b/c it just works, one might be willing to pay that price.
@@stmboat they're I think $575-625 here. But you could get the P320 for $650. So I'm not sure why someone would get a Glock unless they know for sure and why they'd want one... I bought all mine used. So I think I paid about 25%-30% less than new. I just think there are better options now.
IDK but I’ve always wondered how many of these negligent discharges is due to modifying the trigger weight to 3 pounds. One wrong twitch and that pistol will fire!
The trigger weight isn't really so much the issue since its a long pull before it breaks. -However when people adjust the 'creep' and over-travel essentially shortening the pull distance of the trigger via a custom trigger, you can run into the 'hair trigger' issue if you're not careful when drawing from the holster.. Most of the time when you're talking about cops or civilians carrying glocks, negligent discharges are usually due to not using a solid enough holster that covers the trigger-well. Equipment or clothing and sometimes fingers get caught on that trigger and set the gun off. Simple solution, don't carry with one in the chamber or make sure you have the correct holster.
None are because of the Reduced Trigger weight. ALL are because of NEGLAGENCE. Don't have your finger on the Trigger unless you're ready to destroy what's at the other end. A twitch should not make the Firearm go off.
@@booga-squirrel4566 I agree. Still, all these guntubers talking about modifying the trigger on their carry piece. Not a good thing, IMO, considering most are not as experienced as they believe.
I find myself in agreement with you. Iam 72 years old and have been around firearms since the day I was born. I'm also retired from the US ARMY. When new shooters ask me for a recommendation I always go with a conventional DA/SA revolver in 357 magnum. But I recommend they start with 38 Special and progress to +P and eventually 357 magnum. If they can afford it I also recommend an understudy revolver in 22LR. While my favorite pistol is whichever 1911 I'm am holding at any given moment (I have 2 dozen in my collection), my EDC is a S&W 442 or a decocked Canik TP9DA when my wardrobe permits.
I have been a firearm owner for many, many years, and I have a few striker-fired pistols, and all of them have manual safeties. I prefer to carry a revolver, but sometimes I carry one of my semi-autos as they are thinner and easier to conceal.
@@joshuaculick7767 It is not that they are bad guns. But at this point it is showing its age in the market. The company didnt keep up with what the market demanded, which is why the aftermarket came in with triggers, stippling, slides, metal sights, ect. When I can go grab a p320 or 365 have several frames, with or with out manual saftey and a better trigger out of the box. Or a Cz or one of the many Glock alikes that have some, if not all, of the desired aftermarket features already built in by almost any decent company.
I've never owned a Glock, and never will. I've been an old .45 "slabsides" guy since I carried one in the military. It's my go-to sidearm. Very easy to operate. Three safety's. Never had an accidental discharge.
@@geraldreynolds9650 I get why you carry .45 ACP, While I don't feel "undergunned" with 9mm. (Esp. with modern ammo..) I can understand that more is better than less, In my case I chose capacity. This is NOT to say "capacity is KING", as I often carry a .357 Mag. snub revolver! However the point of the video was about the Glock's action. Hell you CAN get a Glock in .45 ACP or a "1911" in 9mm, But the "1911" (and the P35 "High Power") and their ilk (Single action semi auto) is what I'm used to. A "1911" is a SOLID CHOICE in "our" camp. As is is the "P35" (I am "only" 60 if that means anything) My grandfather was a cop and the S&W M&P .38 S&W Special (Now known as the Model 10) revolver was department (city) "issue". BUT, He was a Huuuge "1911" enthusiast. Too bad he retired long before autos became the "norm" for police! He'd have carried the "1911"!
1911s are the perfect hand gun. like You said and You do not need high capacity just make Your shots count You can get 1911s in 9mm 357 sig 38 super 22,10mm,40 cal and even some high power mag calibers if You want to spend big bucks for one.
Not impressed at all with Glocks. I'll stick what my taurus. I don't like the feel, lack of balance in a glock. Plus they are too damb expensive. You can get a good quality taurus for under 400$ The Glock crowd is like a Cult
Friggin Nice oldie but quite dependable. I've found a 400 Cor Bon barrel for the 1911. Reloading cuts the factory costs. Munitions Scary expensive lately.
@@chunglow7646 I also have a carbine kit for my 1911. Too bad it's only available in .45 ACP, because a .400 Cor-Bon would be vicious in a 16 inch barrel.
normalMy CorBon is mild. Supposedly a magnumized 40 caliber. in the 5" barrel of a 1911 I got a 135g out from 1325-1500 fps. Brass lasts long because the case rests on the shoulder. I've formed 400 from either once fired 45ACP or ordered New 400 CB brass from Starline. Stuff! I'd recently found some new 45Super brass from Starline bought a few years back. The SUPER head case was thicker vs 400 Cor Bon brass. Possibly for hotter loads to push various projectiles up to the 10mm velocity safely. There's a convern on the bevel cutout that allows the cartilage to enter the chamber. Blowouts possible with normal walled cases. that's Why I ordered the 45 Super brass. Safety is my concern. I ain't pumping it up to 10mm pressure. I'll just get a 10mm. I had one regular 45 ACP case formed into CB and it blew out the remainder of cartridges in the magazine! Spring was bent and trashed. The load wasn't excessive. just a mid-level load for the 135g Hornady hollow point. @ about 1400 fps. weak brass let gas blow out the back plug on the upper. Safety Glasses were a lifesaver.
@@kevins1114 metinks that a 16" barrel can accellerate it towards rifle velocity grasshopper. I don't have my load books handy. 1700-1800 fps might be feasible. IDK
@@billyray8062 After carrying the old S&W Model 5906 9mm for several years, my agency issued the Glock Model 22 .40 Caliber to each Officer along with a Glock Model 27 .40 caliber as the authorized "back up" firearm if the Officer chose to carry one. It was the only backup allowed. As the Senior Firearms Instructor I observed that the switch from the Smiths to the Glocks went very well with qualification scores going up. We issued Hydra Shok 155 Grain JHP ammunition and allowed for 50 extra rounds (NOT including the required 4 Quals a year, 2 day / 2 night) per month if an Officer chose to shoot on their own. Sadly, most did not. The Glock 22 performed so well that I have purchased several and carry it now as a Security Director at a private school. I even have one dedicated to a MCarbo Micro set up! Anyone who knocks the .40 and says the 9mm is just as effective has not really done their homework on ballistics. Is the 9mm at its best (124 Speer Gold Dot) a bad round, NO! But it does not compare to the .40 at it's best. I spent 6 years as the Captain in charge of the Police Training Division and found that yes, some recruits, mostly smaller males and females, did struggle a bit with the "snappy" recoil of the .40. But with enough trigger time they overcame it and shot well. I understand the big switch back to the 9mm which has made great strides since the 115 FMJ. I also understand that due to less range time (????) it is easier to handle the soft recoil of a 9mm and adapt to it quicker. All that being said, I will keep my Model 22 and 23!!!!
During my years in law enforcement, and the military, the Glocks had the highest number of accidental discharges by far and that was with individuals that received a lot of annual training. Don't get me wrong, I like them. Just saying.
@@williamryan9195 Not to answer for Mike, but a lot of people forget about the human factor. A light trigger with no safety plus a huge adrenaline surge equals a much higher probability of accidentally popping off a round. I've seen several trained people do that just due to the adrenaline rush of a competition or doing a particular drill against the clock. How much more likely to happen when you're suddenly fighting for you life? Trigger discipline is one thing, but no one can stop the loss of fine motor function that comes with a big dump of adrenaline and fear.
@@rElliot09 When it's statistically far more likely with one particular gun over others, with a sample size of millions of shooters, it's also the gun. If it was only the operator it would happen just as often with everything else.
@@Falconryder Not if the sample size isn't the exact same for all guns in the study. I guarantee you it was not. Further, Glock was a transitional firearm in years past for departments transitioning from revolvers. It was the learning curve that was the issue, not the weapon.
When a new buyer asks me to recommend a first gun, I never recommend a specific gun. What I do is educate them about the different types of action (striker, single action semi-auto, hammer-fired DA/SA semi-auto, revolver, etc) and go over the various safety features of each type, the extent to which they have safeties, and the extent to which you need a manual safety. Then, I discuss calibers. But ultimately I advise them to go to a rental range a try a variety off guns before they buy anything. Never had anyone complain about that advice.
Best comment so far. I was a gun snob who listened to my buddies before being forced to carry Glocks for a 23 year Law Enforcement career. Now I still own some fancy guns but carry a Glock every day. Bottom line is new gun owners need training and the opportunity to try various guns before making a decision. Then they should choose what works for their own comfort level and experience. While I will choose a Glock most times does not make it the right choice for everyone
I bought my first gun ever last year and I got a Smith and Wesson shield plus w/ manual safety. It's going to be my CCW when I get my license and I'm a dad so a manual safety on my carry was very important to me. I agree that there are better choices for a new gun owner other than Glock.
I LOVE my SHIELD PLUS!!! Get yourself a set of TRU-GLO tritium night sights for it!!! They are AMAZING!! White dots in daytime. Green dots in nighttime!!!
Couldn't agree more with you for first time gun owners. In fact, I am totally the opposite. I know this is not a popular option, but I am of the belief that the best gun for first time owners, is a revolver. If possible one that chambers at least 6 rounds (give or take, depending upon the person's size, a smaller person might need a smaller 5 round revolver). A revolver is simple, easy to master, and no question if the safety is on or not (no safety to worry about) but it is not of the ilk to be afraid of no safety. A simple gun to get use to firing. Also if going to carry in a pocket, they can fire through the pocket without having to try to get out of the pocket first. Then they don't have to worry if the slide will get caught up on the material of the pocket. After they get use to shooting at the range and gets comfortable with it, then if they want a semiautomatic, they have experience and a comfort level they would not have going straight to the semiautomatic. Just a few thoughts from LA Marty's attic. P.s. say hi to Maggie.
Totally agree. In fact, a revolver is our bedside table gun, since my wife is familiar with it, and to be honest, if I am woken suddenly from a deep sleep and need to grab a gun, I want the wheel in my hand also.
Simple and Reliable. That's enough for me. I'm OK with a manual safety on a 1911, but that's about it. A manual safety is just one more action to put the gun into use.
@@freedomfan4272 an XD was my first pistol. I've never had an issue engaging the grip safely. I taught my sister to shoot it and it helped her place a proper grip as the first couple times shooting it she had issues firing due to improper grip.
@@steveeab2364 I love Springfield firearms. I think I'm on my 6th now. Never a hiccup. Almost all guns now are reliable, it's more a preference thing. I just feel Springfield is the best value, no plastic sights and unpolished parts.... some firearms are just better quality I guess.
@@XDM10 Agreed. I had a slight issue with my XDs where when I added the plus 1 it wouldn't eject the case of that +1 round. Worked itself out after the first 7 or so magazines and no issue since in the next 100 mags. I mentioned that to a Glock worshiper and oh my goodness, you can imagine the lecture I got because glockenspiel has apparently never had an issue or needed a break in in the history of forever.
@@steveeab2364 The grip safety on the XD is fine because it's passive. The problem with it is it locks the slide shut. You need three hands to lock the slide back to show clear.
I always recommend a S&W M&P 9mm 2.0 they have a thumb safety option and without thumb safety , great ergonomics , nice factory stipple grip , decent trigger , and it’s very dependable! Perfect
Very valid information that many need to hear. I once owned a full-size Glock model 22 in 40 cal, great fit, accurate, with no recoil...however no manual safety. I know with many folks that's not an issue, but with my wife and I keeping our young grandkids and I'm in my late 60's, I just felt the manual safety was my best safe option. All my S&W's and other pistols makes, all have manual safety's.
I own lots of guns and have carried one professionally for 21 years. There are lots of great handguns, but for me the Glock 22 for winter and Glock 19 for summer are the best choices. For brand new shooters, I still think a revolver or DAO pistol is usually a better choice.
Hard to screw up with the dependability of a Glock-yet some people still manage it. Our family go-to guns are a Sigs and Kimber revolver. Great comments and excellent points.
Good advice for the novice gun owner. I have recommended to a few people who have never ever fired a gun in their life. I recommended a revolver first. I explained about malfunctions that happens with a new pistol. I told them about snap Capps and learning how to fix the problem by practicing with the dummy round without lowering the auto . It takes practice, but it can be done. Also about spare mags and rotating the ammo every few months to give the springs a break. Recommended a 357 which they can fire 38 special. They look at me like I am talking a foreign language.
I now own several firearms, but never really interested in Glocks. I shot my brother's Glock last week with the new Timney trigger and WOW, what a different shooting experience. Not as mushy and the reset was fire. Now is my time to get a Glock. Thanks for the video though, there's a lot of new gun owners out there that haven't really thought all this through. Keep up the good work, we love you brother!
I do not like external safeties. My first pistol was an early Gen3 Glock 19, a police trade in. That was 12 years ago and I still shoot that gun. I won many Glock competitions with that pistol. They are accurate and reliable, smooth and perfect for concealment.
Just remember the most important safety is the one between your ears. For the past 25+ years I have had a loaded Glock with no safety on me or close at hand. It has never unintentionally discharged. The presence of mechanical safeties cannot make up for poor gun handling or violating basic safe practices.
An observant firearms owner will notice there are no references to a manual safety in the firearms safety rules. The only exception might be a mention that a mechanical safety can fail and should never be relied upon.
NOTHING can make up for poor gun handling or violating basic safety rules. Handguns, like lit cutting torches, running chainsaws or pressure sensitive explosives are DANGEROUS in the hands of the careless, untrained or idiots. No amount of "safety features" can "fix" that. The only "Safe" handgun is unloaded and in pieces on the workbench being cleaned. A handgun is supposed to be Dangerous, to the target not innocent bystanders or the owner.
My everyday carry has been a fully loaded Glock 27 for over 10 years. As dumb as it sounds I have dropped that thing on the ground many times while doing hard work that the holster wasn't ready for. Yet as long as I keep the gun clean it has never had any issues.
Was brought up on Glock. Never knew any difference till my early twenties. Have a couple Sigs and a lot of Glocks. I can see your point in regards to new shooters and manual safeties.
I'm a new shooter. I went with a Glock 22 Gen 5. The controls were stiff at first. I spent 20 minutes a day working all the controls until I could handle the gun with my eyes closed, with no ammo of course.
@@joesotelo9905 everyone has their own comfort levels. it's not 'wrong' for one person to be concerned about a weapon w/no manual safety. They may well develop the confidence in time but for many newer shooters the safety provides one added level of insurance. this is not a bad thing.
I don’t if you don’t pull the trigger the gun doesn’t fire how damn hard is that. Unless you’re talking about a damn kid that can’t keep there hands off of there gun or something. A safety also is no good for people to stupid to check it.
@@billf4995 You are correct. But I've seen new and not so new shooters rely heavily on the Flip Safety. Instead of proper handling of the Firearm. You know SAFTY is our ultimate goal.
My first pistol was a Ruger LC380 based on the recommendation from a gun store owner. It has a manual safety and I am able to use it very well. Glad a Glock wasn’t my first however I may purchase one in the future if I see a great deal on one. FYI the LC380 has been extremely reliable after 5 years, and it makes a great concealed unit.
@@jeffcallahan5373 .380 will get the job done. If it doesnt its because you weren't a good shot. The .380 has the same level of statistical stopping power as 9mm and .45 acp. If you don't believe me go look it up. If you want a better category then ditch 9mm and .45 for .357 magnum
I've been carrying 2 glocks daily for over a decade, I understand and respect your points, all just training issues though... And when I say training, I don't mean range practice with buddies, I mean going to a respected/well known training facility and taking classes, not just the minimum of what someone's state requires... Peace be with you!
You said "I mean going to a respected/well known training facility and taking classes, not just the minimum of what someone's state requires" WELL SAID!!
Could not have said it better! I love my 26 and 43. Zero issues. Safety and training first. I cannot recommend enough to take advanced training courses from well respected trainers. I put over 600 rounds through my 43 this past weekend, all within a short time period in many different scenarios - all with safety being the number 1 priority.
Thank you for your thoughts on Glocks for a new gun owner. I would be curious what the ratio of Glocks purchased and returned versus other brands of striker-fired non-manual safety guns returned. My guess is they are statistically even. I’ve carried Glocks for ten years and I think the industry has surpassed them for cost/value as well as grip/angle and “shootability.” On a side note, I would also believe that under the pressure of a self-defense scenario, disengaging a manual safety would be as much a liability for a new user as the risk of a negligent discharge. Thanks again.
Yes, it is possible that someone could forget to take the safety off in a situation of extreme stress. But that's why I carry a hammer fired cz p01 that is decock only. You hit the decock lever, it will drop the hammer to the half cock position. Your first trigger pull is a long double action. Then each shot after is a short single action.
I definitely agree with the cost/value of alternatives to Glocks. You can get some models of the Sig Sauer P365 or the Smith & Wesson Shield with better features such as night sights out of the box for around the same price point as a Glock. The triggers on these other options are often better as well. On the manual safety issue, most of these striker-fired pistols are designed to not need one. As long as the universal rules of firearm safety are followed and the pistol is well maintained, it won't fire without the trigger being pulled. Most of the manual safeties I've seen on striker-fired pistols are too small to be easily disengaged in a self-defense situation anyway.
@@JohnnyReb2000 I agree with you that the Glock’s built in safeties should keep it from firing unless the gun is out of speck or the trigger is pressed. Several other popular striker-fired alternatives seem to lack some of the Glock’s built in precautions, and the shooter may be better off with an additional manual safety with those other brands. I also agree that it is really difficult to engage some of the smaller striker-fired manual safeties. My rule of thumb is: if a gun has a manual safety train to use it…this is another reason I shoot Glocks!
My first gun was a Glock 19 but I had to take numerous classes to train and be proficient with the gun in order for me to be comfortable with me to carry it. But Yes, for me I shoot better with other guns like a sig P320 with the flat trigger is better for me. I think your first pistol purchase should include extensive training until you a comfortable with a firearm.
Some good points here, I believe there the duality that the Glock can be the easiest to shoot accurately under stress by it's overall design features, then there is the concern of a striker fired as you mentioned for the inexperienced...for me, Glock is the safest platform.
For recommendations, I go with any of the micro nines, or even smaller for a newbie who plans to have dicipline to carry the gun. All of those work like a Glock anyway. With internals that are basically the same and only changed enough not to get sued. Drawing from concealment, AND then disengaging a safety is for an expert, not a newbie. So is decocking like it is 1996 before reholstering. If the 6lb trigger feels too light, there is nothing wrong with using factory parts to go to 8lb, with the NY1 on a Glock. If this still is uncomfortable, a shrouded or hammer-less revolver might be a consideration. Thinking there is some super quick way to bring a gun that is shut off mechanically from concealment, to being ready to fire mechanically, without a hindrance is fantasy land.
I'm ex LEO,and have been shooting for over 50 years and could not agree with you more !!!! I just last year purchased my first and probably last Glock!!!!
I'm personally not a fan, I carry round in the pipe and if I needed to pull any of my weapons it takes a mili second to take the weapon off safety. That being said I do carry my walther ppx from time to time and it has no safety at all.
I agree with you 100%. This is my story. When my wife decided she wanted to learn to shoot I took her to the range with the few pistols I had that included a USP compact nine, sig 380, And a S&W bodyguard. She did not like any of them for various reasons. Which included racking the guns, trigger pull, and overall feel. She felt they were all too “busy’. I didnt own a Glock at the time but got G 19 and let her try it out. We went back to the range and her first impressions were that it felt good in her hand, it was easy to rack, and it didnt have all the other “stuff”. She shot it and said this will work. And she is completely satisfied how it shoots. I decided to buy one for her and my adult son. This went into a philosophy of use, which was that it made sense to me that if anyone in the family picked up one type of gun, there would be immediate familiarity. So that was why it went with the 19. This is for home protection and not for carry. She can pick it up and it will go bang. The only thing that is required if it doesnt is to rack the slide . I have no dog in the race. The fact that she liked it and family familiarity was the deciding factor. However For What it is worth, i carry a Sig P365. Thank you for your channel!
Keep looking. Talk with people who know what they’re talking about and get training. Not saying you have to get a Glock, but this message is totally off base.
@@oleboy7615 I already own a g21. I just need something a bit smaller like a G45 MOS for better concealment. I have huge hands so having a big gun doesn’t always suffice. Shot the g45 and fell in love with it.
I think this is solid advice. My first gun was a Glock 17, a very nice pistol. I bought a revolver soon after, I feel way more comfortable with it. It seems much safer and I feel more comfortable with my wife using it. Now, I want a DA/SA Beretta with a manual safety.
I think you will like the comfort and safety the DA/SA Beretta brings to you. The double action gives you that extra control and the single action follow ups are faster than striker at least for me. I own only one striker fire in my rotation, and it has a manual safety. I like Glock but don't own any at the moment. The 30SF is the only Glock that could fill a role for me. The Beretta is a superior weapon to Glock in many areas.
Beretta makes nice guns, but you should try out the CZ line too. I've found CZ to have much better triggers than the Berettas usually do, and the Shadow II is awesome. Smooth as butter double-action trigger pull, and light, crisp single action. Whatever you get, best of luck with your new gun!
Thank you for an honest evaluation of glocks I carry a Glock 20 and feel secure, every gun needs to be treated with knowledge and respect and the Glock pistol as you said is not for everyone.
I carried a Glock 19 for years as my EDC. I spent a lot of time just dry fire handling it to get comfortable with it. Re-holstering was always done carefully and deliberate. I switched to a 1911 in .45 acp last year, not because of my concern over not having a manual safety but more that I just prefer the 1911 and I shoot that much more accurately than I did with my 9mm Glock. Regardless of what type of gun someone chooses, training and regular dry-fire practice are key. Beginners and experienced handgun owners should train often to keep skills up and negligent discharges down.
That is very helpful information Mark! Wish everyone was providing that kind of information. Just like you said, people can recommend great guns, but for new gun owners, they wouldn’t know to ask those kind of questions. I am a fairly new gun owner and I would hope before someone was to give me recommendations that they would take the time, just as you did, to ask questions before suggesting the perfect gun for me. I always learn something new by watching your videos. Thank you!
I had a Glock 43 for a short while but felt really uncomfortable with it as my carry gun. I just prefer my Charter Arms OFF DUTY to carry with a very heavy trigger. My home defense pistol is a 1911 type 9mm simply because I was trained on a 1911 in the Navy and that is what my hand prefers to be holding.
A new gun owner is also more likely to be unable to disable the safety under stress or clear a jam. Personally, I suggest a K-frame revolver (because the whole family can easily be taught how to operate it safely) to all first time gun buyers and if they are not interested in the simplicity of a revolver I do suggest a Glock 19, but I always suggest they let me give them free training whatever choice they make. The same argument can be made for the Glock to be a first time gun owner's choice. The lack of a safety and the simplicity of a Glock is ideal when a new gun owner needs the gun to go bang. Also, there are more good affordable holsters (which cover the trigger) made for a Glock than any other gun. Also. if they change their mind and desire a gun with a safety, a Glock retains it's value well and is easily sold.
A manual safety (S&W Model 59) caused me to "not fear" ripping my own gun from the hand of a wacko who found where it was, and pointed it straight at me. (Mental issues). You can have your fast deploy glock. She did a few months in jail..several times..for other issues too.
I totally agree with you. THAT is why I have several Springfield Armory XD pistols. The grip safety gives me much peace of mind. It has a definite edge with safety. One can just holster it by holding the bottom of the grip...holstering itself seems the be where most Glock ADs occur...
My first gun was a Glock 26, which I still have. I made the investment in myself to get proper training. This is what is woefully missing from most gun owners experience IMHO.
Glock was one of the first pistols I ever tried it was back in the late 90s. Glock gen 3 had just recently debuted. I’ve been a fan ever since. I’m not a Glock fan boy though. I also like classic metal sigs, browning hi power, 1911, and beretta 92. Fantastic video.
I've run Glocks since the early 90s in my law enforcement days up until now. I absolutely love them. However, when loaded and ready to go it's either holstered, or a Raven trigger guard is snapped over the frame. I do agree with your views on new gun owners needing a lot of training, external safety, or both.
I completely agree, I bought my first handgun recently and was almost gonna get a Glock, but I went for a Jericho 941 instead. Its a full steel frame with a hammer and decocker, I feel like I can operate it incredibly safely so far which was my primary concern. Plus I know a lot about old school guns with hammers but not so much about striker fired guns, which means it probably wouldnt be smart to start with a striker fire even though I want to get a Glock (and or a Masada) eventually. Both Jericho and Glock are highly modifiable as well, so thats something a first timer needs to consider if going with that. Some people like to modify their guns some want it stock out of the box. The Glock is by far the most modifiable handgun on the market that Ive seen, but in some ways it NEEDs to be modified to be in the best shape possible as far as Ive researched. Jericho stock configurations gives you a lot more out of the box in my opinion.
Good advice! I think the best gun for a first time owner would be a double action revolver. PS, I have an older S&W M&P 9 with no manual safety, but I really like it. 😉
My G19 is my favorite off duty carry pistol, but I have been in law enforcement for almost 30 and carry a pistol every day. Without the experience of daily on duty carry, I would probably be nervous carrying a pistol that doesn’t have an external safety.
Very True words of wisdom about clocks safety concern, due to too many accidental shooting. Having a manual safety is needed for most new and old clock owners
Agree 100 percent! Not keeping your finger off the trigger, but clothing, spent cartridges and such getting into the holster. I appendix carry and will only use a striker fired with a manual thumb safety or a hammer fired.
A rigid holster that completely covers the trigger is also essential. Plus careful re-holstering and trigger discipline.
Good advice
Just got my 1st one looking for a nice holster for when I get accurate with and feel good about carrying it you have any suggestions?
@@buffalobill4875 I've never owned a Glock but I've had good luck with Vedder holsters for my Sigs.
@@buffalobill4875 check out Tulster holsters love my Tulster oath carry everyday with no issues.
@@jeffbeasom5227 thanks!
I'm one of the few people I know who don't own a Glock. I went with Sig Sauer instead. I have a P229 with the .40 barrel, a 9mm barrel and a .357 Sig barrel, I have several choices of ammo I can shoot with 1 gun.
Yes that's why I went with glock 23 lol
Yup, the 23 let's you do the exact same thing.
the p229 weighs more and mitigates recoil better for .40 cal
Am another one without a Glock FfN 509 all the way
Yup my Glock 32 IDENTIFIES as ammo fluid. 357 Sig (my personal fav) .40 S&W and 9mm all in one.
I fall into that group of experienced shooters, I started when I was 13 and going on 70 now. My CC pistol's have been Walther's and now a Glock. I agree one must be vigilant when using the Glock, but boy does that Glock run smooth and eats any ammo I put through it. Be safe and be responsible.
So does a Cz.
Yup
Why'd you switch to Glock? I'm a Blocker and am considering a PPQ.
@@5jjt The reason anyone switches to Glock is because it's the best semiautomatic pistol on the market.
Can’t shoot reloads
When I took my first firearms training class, the instructor said he was not a fan of manual safeties unless you practiced flicking it off and on until it was second nature. He said that without that muscle memory, that split second you forget the safety is on and try to shoot, could be life threatening. Also, I think having to pull the trigger to take apart a Glock for cleaning has a lot to do with people accidentally discharging the weapon, too.
checking the chamber is Safety First. Same for 'fanning' the barrel end across the body of others with finger on That TRIGGER! I've seen a wee stumble on uneven ground sent a wayward projectile to an Unwanted Zip Code!
first step when cleaning or doing maintenance is making sure the firearm is unloaded and there is no live ammo in your work space ....... next, whoever so called "trained" you is a clown, the safety comes off as you begin to clear the firearm from the holster, should be simultaneous as you clear the muzzle past the mouth of the holster and just before you drop the elbow, which allows you to fire from midline if needed while driving the gun into sight alignment and completing the draw stroke. find a better instructor, that's not a reason to carry a Glock over anything with a safety on the side of the slide or on the rear of the grip.
Semper Fi
@@stevej9636 Safeties are in partnership with a 1911, hand controls the Safety Drop before aiming at a preferred point of sim. Keeps extraneous movement to minimum.. Train and Train presentation to avoid error. Magazine change while keeping Both eyes on the target. Whether a paper one or a live combatant/ dangerous person
@@chunglow7646 you are shoving a bunch of $50 words into a $5 comment bro. i do this for a living ...........
Taught me to bloom
Yes we should check to make sure it is unloaded and clear before disassembly but..people carry with one in the chamber and they just drop the magazine and proceed to disassemble..2 of my coworkers had a accidental discharge during the trigger pull stage.. 1 shot his buddy in the lower abdomen the other shot himself in the upper thigh.
My wife is a first time gun owner. At my recommendation she got a S&W EZ WITHOUT the manuel safety. My concern is anyone experienced or not could easily forget about a safety in a stressful situation. If a person carrys a gun with a manuel safety they should train with it.
Train with any gun. A train all the time. But yes. I do not like a safety. On my carry guns. With my AR 15 an AR10 I train with them empty on the safety.
without the safety it should be carried uncocked by a beginner. practice cocking it in a stressful situation.
Bingo! you build that weapons safety discipline, without a manual safety to begin with, and you drill it into them. Yes, it's a lot of responsibility, but a firearm is a lot of responsibility to begin with. Adding a manual safety to the order of operations for a novice with little training is going to hinder their ability to defend themselves.
I see nothing particularly wrong if someone wants to have a manual safety as a novice, but they're going to have to drill on it more, than without, when starting.
I personally like DAO (no safety) as a Carry Gun ..
Your wife got a decent gun.
Train train train. That the reason why military uses safeties because every joe shim volunteers but not everyone is equipped to keep the finger off the trigger.
I’ve heard arguments for and against every handgun operating feature. No matter what features are chosen using them must be practiced until it’s second nature.
Thank you. My favorite carry lately is the fn 57 and the Glock. People say they fn has a weird safety location but I’m not used to any safety so it is really about training.
@@546people I like the idea of the 5.7 in a handgun. I looking toward the Ruger 57!
@@B-Myls I heard the Ruger excels in most categories. I went with the fn because I have the Ps90 and liked the chrome lined barrel fn uses.
@@546people Right on! I can't afford the Ruger 57 right now though I have the Security 9, just need to run it more! I'm getting tired of the all black hand guns so chrome will be a better look! Take care, stay safe and wherever you are, stock up...
I agree. It's the archer not the bow. How well a certain gun shoots depends on how much work that particular marksman puts in on getting proficient *with that specific gun*
Wasted so much money til I discovered Glock. Won’t look back.
Enjoy your piece of crap pistol with its warped plastic frame and disgusting trigger and sights.
Same
Yes sir can’t go wrong they’re always gonna go bang and they hold their value
Try CZ. Eff glocks
@@jh5399 yep CZ destroyed Glocks.
My 1st gun was a used Glock 22 police trade in, so smooth. Love it! I now have many Glocks.
That was my first HG
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Every Glock 22 police trade in I've ever seen was almost wore out the slide rails were worn paper thin and the guns in general was generally beat the crap I'm glad you got a good one.
Mine as well. Got a sweet deal on it. Still own it. I like the glocks.
I bought my Gen 3 Glock 22 used, and it was in pristine condition. Now when I bought my Gen 3 Glock 21 it had some minor wear and tear but still have not in bad shape.
Glocks were made famous in the 1998 movie “U.S. Marshals”, when Tommy Lee Jones tells Robert Downey Jr. to “Get yourself a Glock and lose that nickel plated sissy pistol." Later on Tommy Lee Jones describes Glocks to Robert Downey Jr. "These things are so cool. They shoot underwater. You can pour sand in them and they’ll shoot. They shoot every time.”
I really enjoy the channel and really appreciate the prayer ministry that you guys provide. I have a little different take on this subject. I’ve never been a Glock lover but have grown to appreciate the consistent simplicity of their products. Hopefully, all new gun owners will take the time to “get to know” whatever weapon they choose.....both at the range and at home via repeated disassembly and reassembly, dry firing, etc. I believe the lack of a manual safety is a “pro” for new gun owners.....particularly in a self defense pistol. One less thing to think about in a high stress situation. Especially if they don’t have hours and hours of trigger time to instill the muscle memory of working a safety. My wife had a thumb safety gun and many times failed to flip the safety off before her first round at the range. In a high stress self defense situation, I can see that costing someone their life.
Anyway.....just another point of view.
Again......appreciate the channel and the prayer ministry.
The Glock 19 was my first firearm. I’ve never had a issue with safety
No one else does either, if they abide by proper firearm safety.
All firearms safety is is FAMILIARITY, PRACTICE AND COMMON SENSE (of course, as I always like to point out is, if SENSE were truly common EVERYONE WOULD HAVE IT "AND" KNOW HOW TO EMPLOY IT).
@moonshine 143 then they can make a "mistake" with any gun.
@@oleboy7615 yup
@@oleboy7615 EXACTLY!
Been a Glock owner since the 90s & it was good enough back then & nothing has changed much so if it ain't broke don't fix it is my number 1 choice. Of course I handle guns every day so keeping my finger off the trigger is my safety that's worked for decades. Of course I give God all the credit for keeping me & my family safe each day.
If you carry properly with a holster that properly protects the trigger all of what you mentioned isn’t an issue. The last thing I want with a self defense pistol is to be trying to flip a manual safety off when I need to use it.
I addition to a good holster, taking time to visually and physically clear garments prior to reholstering. Blindly reholstering has caused some shooters grave issues.
It's all in proper training. You don't draw a pistol and then flip the manual safety off. You flip the safety off as you are drawing. It's second nature. And does not take even a hundredth of a second longer than not even having a manual safety. My first handgun was a Colt 1903, 50 years ago. If you're not used to a manual safety yeah you shouldn't be carrying it. You should not be carrying any firearm you are not familiar with.
The safety trigger is basically just for manufacturers liability purposes only. The trigger can in certain situations still be actuated and cause a negligent discharge. Every once in awhile people with Glocks shoot their self. Sometimes clothing can get caught in the trigger as you are holstering your weapon. I read recently where an individual shot himself in the thigh while holstering and that was the reason. He didn't understand it because he said it had a safety trigger. That safety trigger don't mean s***.
Wow how sad .
Glock was the first handgun I purchased when I turned 21. I put it on my CCW immediately after acquiring it, and have carried one for 20 years. Keep your finger away from the trigger, never carry without a holster, and follow the basic firearms safety rules and you'll never have a negligent or accidentally discharge. Never! And if your loaded pistol is ever accessible by an unsupervised minor, you shouldn't own a gun. External safety or not. Glocks do not fire unless the trigger is pressed. Once pressed, they fire every single time without exception. Glock is a great first time pistol. Just get a little training with it to make sure you understand that guns are dangerous. External safeties have gotten people killed, too. Let's not cherry pick statistics.
I bought a 2nd gen G-19 brand new back in the 1990's. Most reliable semi-auto pistol I've ever owned. It's taken everything from 115 grain +P to 158 grain subsonics without a hiccup. As for safety, gotta know your gun and pay attention to what you're doing!
Wow, that's the coolest story I've ever heard in my life. Can you tell it again? Do you have time? 🤷🏼♂️
Love my Glock 19 gen 4. Had it for a few years now and no trouble at all, however I had grown up with guns and had experience. I agree somewhat but the thing here is safety, any firearm is dangerous without proper training and I think that’s where a lot of new gun owners go wrong. Training is critical with a gun with manual safety or not.
Greg: Once the bullet leaves the muzzle it has no friends!
@@skipperclinton1087 that's a fallacy, I loaded it and gave it life and a name, I am the bullets father and it is on my side at all times ....................
I ended up with a couple of Rugers. The aren't perfect but they've taught me much about firearms and I'm quite comfortable using them. These are both hammer fired.
Ruger now owns FN Herstal as well, I believe most New FN Pistols & Rifles are made in the U.S. not Belgium
There's a reason "Ruger" has been around since before I was a twinkling in my daddy's eye 🤣😂🤣
@Scott R. Honest question, what "sketchy" things have you seen/heard of in Portland (I live in Seattle WA)? Seems to be mostly Property crime in the PNW... only 1 murder every week or so here
I wish I could have gotten the hammer fire. Ended up with the sr9 and sr9c. Glad I did too. Smooth trigger pull. +p is a great addition as well.
@Scott R. I get 17rd mags. How many rounds of .40 does the sr40 get?
I took my cousin to a local gun store/ range. I had her try a lot of firearms so she could see how they felt in her hand. We explained how each one worked. We told her of the benefits and minuses of each one. From there we rented out several of the ones she liked best and gave her some basics of shooting, such as lining up the sights. We also told her she should take some training classes. It took us several hours at the store/range but I believe we got her set up with a good start. Unfortunately, over the last several years she has turned into a far better shooter than I.
This is the way it should be done with any new shooter! Thank you for helping her.
Now as to her shooting better than you? Let me just say this, (not a knock on you) she took classes, she didn’t come to the table with any “bad” habits that she would have to unlearn or that she could fall back into. Again not a knock or dig on you.
Again thank you for sharing.
Stay safe out there….
That's the right way to do it. Bravo, you started your cousin off right. Now she can further pass on the right way to get started.
Shoots like a girl, eh? Be sure to explain to her why that's a famous compliment.
You said "We also told her she should take some training classes". WELL SAID!!
I love my Glock my own two of them and I'm very comfortable with them
You make a lot of valid points. I'm in my 60's, been around firearms my entire life. I started with S&W revolvers and I still love them, the older ones. I have a bunch of S&W revolvers as well as semiautomatic pistols. Myself, I typically carry my Glock 43. My friends looking for a carry gun, I'll take them to the gun club and we'll shoot a variety of guns. For other folks I'd recommend a gun shop with a range where you can rent firearms, try them out and talk to the folks there about the pluses and minuses of various firearms before buying, then get some training. All it takes is a moment of not paying attention to have an accidental discharge, I had one once at the range, fortunately for me the gun was at least pointed down range. I had my finger on the trigger, a very light target trigger. Totally my fault. Not like Alec Baldwin whose gun went off without pulling the trigger. Wrong, his finger was on the trigger or it wouldn't have fired.
IMO it doesn't matter how safe someone is and how much they've been trained; they can still have a mis-fire due to any number of reasons. I few years ago I just bought a new S&W 38 special Airweight, "without thinking" pulled the trigger and shot a hole into our bed headboard. It was thick and didn't go all the way through, but what a blessing I didn't deserve and very thankful for receiving, and what a scary lesson learned!
Never had a negligent or accidental discharge in almost 30 years of Being around firearms. Lord willing that will continue. I'm anal about clearing my firearms before disassembly, and being aware of my firearm, knowing if what I got is Loaded or unloaded. I went by an older neighbors and they had a gun outside, they just finished shooting, long story short he was pointing it in the wrong positions thinking it was unloaded trying to get a Mag out, no last round hold open. I was being respectful but pushed him and got him to pull that slide and guess what, there was 1 Inside the Chamber.. I harp about Safety..
@@maptinkler Though human nature not to own up, many of us have had a close call but were under the wing of a Guardian Angel and nobody got hurt. When a volunteer group I belonged to decades ago in my old hometown was refurbishing an old police station house donated by the city to a charity, some of the crew started noticing and counting and recovering bullets and bullet holes in the walls, floors, and ceilings. As many as they discovered, undoubtedly they missed a lot more.
@@richardkluesek4301 I know for sure an inside gun range owner or worker could spend a month just describing the close calls they've encountered. The one I mostly use has to replace the target rails as a normal routine, because of wayward shots.
@@maptinkler Clubs I belonged to where I used to live also had lots of damage from wayward shots and some bizarre mishaps. When the cops were using the FBI PPC combat course, quick drawing revolvers from the holster and hip shooting, we witnessed one rookie so flustered and unsure of himself that when he drew the sidearm he flung it down range without discharging, it bounced across the concrete floor scouring the finish and breaking off the hammer spur. His own private purbahse before the City started issuing equipment. I think he eventually retired after 20 years vesting.
First carry gun is a Gen 3 G19 that I got a little bit ago. I think the main issues is people not learning how the gun works while choosing a gun, and then not training enough with it. But during the last few years, it may be out of people's price ranges to practice
Same gun only I have the Gen 4 very good choice
@@wayman1776 not the best at anything, but good all around gun. Good for carry, good for duty, home defense
I've owned Glocks, for almost 12 years, and have never had any issues.
Best comment yet.
Knock on wood saying something like that…
And you won't have any most likely. You've been shooting long enough to most likely without thinking about it keep your finger away from the trigger. That's the main issue he's talking about in the video and something a new gun owner hasn't developed yet.
I can't tell you how many times I've seen people who've never handled a gun and are handed one the first thing they do is put their finger on the trigger without even realizing it.
Try shooting them and get back with us Rob. 🤷🏼♂️
Being a firearms enthusiast I'm asked "what is the best gun for me" question often.I ask people do you plan on being proficient with the firearm and practice on a regular basis? Most eventually answer no, they just want to keep a gun around. I usually recommend a snub nose 38 revolver. And also a safety course.
A snub nose revolver is the Absolute worst gun to recommend for a new shooter . That is an expert level shooter handgun
@@dmgthree6051 how? there’s only one button and a trigger, point, shoot, simple.
I can`t recommend the "P&S ModCast 197 - Snubbies!" enough.
@@Piecemakerfirearms They are hard to shoot with a heavy trigger, short barrel, and no weight to absorb felt recoil.
You said "And also a safety course", WELL SAID!!!!
The most important thing to remember is my favorite quote: “Keep your booger hook off the bang switch!”
The most effective way to ensure you are safe with a Glock is doing daily training with an unloaded weapon with concealed draw and re-holstering it. When you feel comfortable with that, then use it as your concealed carry.
True with ANY pistol. Not only JUST training and practice, But learn HOW your pistol works mechanically so you understand the REASONS for how to handle it. Ideally, Learn the "manual of arms" for your pistol well before firing the FIRST shot, and then practice, practice, practice!
When I first began to CC I went over a month with no ammo.
@@Soli_Deo_Gloria_. 👍👍TBF, After "Brandon" came in I went for TWO months without ammo. LOL
The "Booger Hook" isn't my worry, it is the part of a t shirt, shirt tail, windbreaker or draw string etc. getting near or on the "Bang Switch" on holstering, may not be much in way of feed back until it "goes bang". Does anyone live who has re holstered not looking, thinking about the last shot, target placement etc? trying to get in more practice rounds. I am still walking without a limp, but my number never came up.
You are 100% correct I own a Glock but I don’t carry it either due to safety concerns and I’ve been caring for over 40 years first time buyers it’s a terrible gun
I own guns for over 40 years. Never purchased a Glock.
I rented/shot various semi-auto pistols at my local range (including Glocks) but I ended up going with the Smith & Wesson M&P line. For me, it has the best grip/feel, and I was most accurate with it. Like you, I valued having a manual safety, and I appreciated the fact that S&W gave users a choice. I don't think there's right/wrong here, it just comes down to personal preference.
I agree...S&W build and design for me much Better!
The M&P M2.0 line is a better made gun than the Glock in terms of quality of material used, and I also like some of the features over the Glock. It’s what I carry, and I’ve carried Glocks for years. I’ve always like the M&P line, but the M2.0 is another level all it’s own. It rivals the vaunted VP9, IMO.
I love my Gen 1 full frame in 45ACP with the manual safety.
I may be in the minority with this opinion, doesn't bother me.
M&P for me as well great guns and backed by Smith & Wesson customer support and service. 👍
@@JustAClownInAClownWorld Among the best in the business!
I agree with you...I'm 45 and been shooting guns steadily since the age of 10. I own a Glock but I carry a Sig 365 with a manual safety...I just feel more comfortable that way
I recently bought my first Glock, a 43X. All of my previous gun purchases have had a manual safety on them. Not on purpose but just because those were the guns that I wanted at the time. Now that this Glock is my carry gun, I find myself paying a LOT more attention to the little details when it comes to loading, holstering, cleaning and handling in general. For first time gun owners, I agree 100%, a Glock is NOT the best choice. New gun owners, especially those who want to carry one everyday, instinctively want that added layer of protection. I have to admit it's still a little bit of a process for me carrying a firearm without a manual safety but, at the same time I feel like it's forcing me to be a little more careful and SAFER.
Love the 43x
Not all new gun owners want that “added” layer of protection. That’s complete conjecture, but there is nothing wrong with anyone wanting an added measure of safety. That said, to presume summarily, as Mark has, that all new gun owners are too incompetent or not responsible enough to own a Glock is myopic at best, if not down right insulting.
I agree,Nothing wrong with safeties.. Train with what ever you buy. I think a sa/da with a decocker is a great option, because one can put the thumb on the hammer and if anything touches the trigger you will feel hammer move.. 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Love my G43. The only modification I have done it the "Glock Gadget". It will change how you holster as you will want to feel the plate as you holster for extra safety in that administrative action.
Carry hot every time I step out the door.
I have had my glock 19 gen 3 since I arrived in the USA in 2008, I carry it every day, hard case, one up. In the early days I kept it in a soft holster , without a round chambered.
That's interesting, I own 2 Glocks and I'm extremely happy with them. BUT, whenever a neighbor or coworker who has no firearm experience, asks me to recommend a first firearm for home defense, I ALWAYS recommend a revolver. 4 inch barrel, Either S&W or Ruger. When I purchased my first handgun, 30 years ago, I asked a close friend who was an ex Green Beret to recommend a first handgun, that's what he recommended, and it was the right choice.
I've been into guns for about 5 years now. My first carry gun was a shield with a manual safety. Just recently bought a shield plus with a manual safety. Both are great in my opinion.
My first autoloader was a Springfield XDM 40 . A striker fire and no safety lever but a grip and trigger safety and chamber indicator. I love it
Same here. Shield + w/ safety, although didn't NEED it, it's there. Otherwise I can just leave it off position.
@Sean Stevens Could it have been defective?
If you don't need a handgun for protection then a manual safety is a consideration. In most cases when you need to deploy a handgun for protection you will not have time to disengage the safety or if left in the off position the safety could be bumped to the on position with the same result. The first shooter with rounds on target usually wins in a gunfight.
@Sean Stevens I am a Sig owner. I have small hand and Glock's don't fit my hands. EDC is a Sig P238 .380. I also own a P365, P226 my favorite if I am going to travel some where. 21rounds gives me a advantage if I need to use it.
My first pistol ended up being a S&W Shield. I wanted a Glock 19, but there weren’t any in the shop. It ended up being a perfect handgun for me. It allowed me to get used to a small frame, learn all of the mechanics, easy takedown where you don’t need to pull the trigger to field strip it, lots of other little nuggets. I have a Glock now too, but I carry a Ruger LCP Max. Love them all for different reasons
The Ruger LCP Max is a winner in my book for easy every day carry….. weight, size and capacity.👍
S&W the most overrated hand guns ever.
Oh come on now I wouldn't go that far . l bet you own an AR and if it aint a smith you ain't got S... Well can't say that here.
@@rayslack4120 opinions vary 😂👍
I have a S&W Shield.45 as well and I absolutely think it is the best carry pistol on the market. I absolutely love the grit handle and best of all I love how thin the pistol is. My Shield does not have a exterior safety and I do wished it did. I bought the pistol off a buddy. I carry with one in the chamber and yes it does make me a little nervous. I have been told that there is absolutely no way that pistol will accidentally fire unless the trigger is pulled. I was told the pistol has a thick metal plate that holds the firing pin back and that metal plate will not lift unless the trigger is pulled. I think the key here is to get a very good tough holster that completely covers the trigger. Just my thoughts
Cz P-01 seems a good option. The Decocker allows a long trigger pull like a revolver.
That’s why I carry a P-01 Omega. Solid choice!
My favorite.
P-07 here. I have a thumb on the hammer when reholstering.
@@BobY52944 same here Bob! I carry at 3:30-4 so I just feel more comfortable being able to thumb the hammer like we do. Thinking about P09 for home defense….to buy time to get to the rifles 👍
Now you're talking👍🍻
I’ve had a Glock 17 for 10yrs now and I love the platform. The safety is in the trigger one of my favorite features. I’ve trained for years to pull my gun out and shoot safely on target, your finger is the only safety you need. Don’t be scared lol. Glocks are great guns but there are a bunch out there that are just as good if not better. I’m not a fan of safety switches buttons Ect. Triggers can’t pull themselves. Learn trigger discipline.
I am with you. I have been shooting for more than 50 years and I won’t ever buy a pistol that does not have a real safety mechanism. If it was good enough for John Browning, it’s good enough for me…
This is true with most guns with out external safety . You should respect all guns and treat them as their LOADED.
Very true but it takes away some of the possibility of negligent discharge if you have an external safety.
Every pistol I carry has one my Sig p365 my FN 9 and my Walther CCP
The only one I have that doesn't would be my LCP 380 which I carry in a pocket holster which covers the trigger and the trigger is so heavy the odds of it going off are slim to none.
Most STRIKER FIRED guns without external safety. Hammer almost always have a heavier, longer first pull that makes them inherently more safe regarding ND's. I went with a VP9 first, which is just a much nicer Glock functionally. Ended up trading it in because I could not get the place of feeling safe with that light trigger and no safety. Makes sense to me to carry like that in combat maybe, but around town for personal defense? Not my cup of tea. It's just as important to not accidentally shoot someone as it is to shoot an actual threat.
@@curte7739 Negligent Discharge is caused by pulling the Trigger.
You can also have that happen if your going around pulling the Trigger.
What happens if the Safety gets flipped off without you realizing it??
Remember this little thing called muscle memory.
For my first pistol, I decided to go with 9mm and rented 5 popular brands. Tried my best to use the bullseye as the point of aim, making no adjustments, with a fresh target for each gun. Went with the one with the tightest grouping, regardless of placement on the target.
Which 9mm did you get?
Hung us out there eh ?
@@ebonyprice2358 block I mean glock
@@ebonyprice2358 My point was about finding what works for you. I tried SIG, Glock, Walther, Ruger, and S&W. Ended up buying the Walther Creed.
which one did you go with?
A few years ago I was at the range. Shooting in the lane next to me was a police officer shooting a Glock. After he shot about 5 rounds, his Glock fell apart. The slide came off the frame and flew about 10 feet downrange. It is a good thing that he was not in a situation where he needed that firearm for his or someone else's safety.
@KansasScout true, any gun can fail at any time. I get a laugh at some of the revolver guys that claim that revolvers never fail like semi autos, I've seen a few revolvers fail in my time.
Any machine can fail. It’s pretty rare for a Glock though.
@@NoneYaBidness762 I think a lot of times, it's probably because the person doesn't clean and properly maintain their weapons. Even a Glock needs to be maintained in order to properly work.
I love my Glock mainly because my 1911 is heavy when concealed carry. This man is 100% correct about Glocks not being for everyone. I believe practice and training no matter what you buy is important. Laser bullets for example can give an owner experience with function or potential failure without a bang. Practicing holstering with a laser bullet in many different fashions and speeds could sum up a miss fire situation before using live rounds. Bottom line is training and practice. God bless 😎
I have a G19, it was my first handgun, but I did a lot of homework and as such I only use kydex holsters and when I carry it, it is always in one of those holsters. I also carry it with one up. A glock is definitely not a gun that you want to put away loaded in a glove box, your pocket or worse, a handbag.
Having been in Law Enforcement for over 30 years, and a Firearms Instructor for about half of that time, 10 years at an academy, I have some thoughts and experiences with Glocks, as well as many other firearms. Just to keep it simple though (KISS)...At the end of the day, (IMHO) it all comes down to practice, competent training, and proficiency. That's with ANY firearm. If you're not going to go get trained, practice diligently, and be proficient, just don't buy anything. JMTC.
Agree. I spent 26 years as an LEO and a couple years into retirement now. I read lots of people say there are better options, features of newer guns, different guns, etc. Me, I'm used to handling, shooting, and comfortable performing malfunction drills, etc on the Glocks (whichever model). So my go-to handgun for self defense is a Glock.
I have glock, hk, sig, and xd. I got the marine courp operator 1911, it highly accurate and concealable. Now I know why 1911 have a following.
All that experience, and you're going to hedge and not admit that the Glock requires more training, discipline and experience than many other guns? Frankly that doesn't seem honest to me. Yes, all cooking takes practice, but it's still pretty obvious that it's easier to learn scrambled eggs than Lamb vindaloo. Sure all guns require training, but it's pretty obvious that a 686 revolver or a Beretta M9 is going to be easier to carry safely than a Glock for new shooter. Many other guns on that list too, if you want something smaller. Seems you're not applying your years of experience to just say "it's all the same." You must have seen plenty to form an opinion about good first time guns.
Yes,if glock is a problem for u..you should probably just stay away from firearms
@@Falconryder Well, I was trying to keep it short after all. To each his own, but yeah, they can be touchy if you're not...Say it with me..."Proficient".
My first was a Colt Mustang and a Para 1911. I've owned a few Glocks, but only 1 has stuck around. There are so many better pistols (in my opinion) than Glocks. Glock is rarely on my list for recommendation. In fact, I can't even remember the last time I carried my G19. The only reason I still have it is because I built it from start to finish, stippling and all.
God bless
Why would anyone pay 750 usd? for a new gen5 g19? Someone please tell me.
@@stmboat I don’t know. They don’t cost that much new where I am. However, if you want a pistol that is the most widely used combat pistol in the world b/c it just works, one might be willing to pay that price.
@@stmboat they're I think $575-625 here. But you could get the P320 for $650. So I'm not sure why someone would get a Glock unless they know for sure and why they'd want one... I bought all mine used. So I think I paid about 25%-30% less than new. I just think there are better options now.
@@stmboat $$??!!!
@@stmboat I have about that in my G19, but it is extensively modified.
IDK but I’ve always wondered how many of these negligent discharges is due to modifying the trigger weight to 3 pounds. One wrong twitch and that pistol will fire!
The trigger weight isn't really so much the issue since its a long pull before it breaks. -However when people adjust the 'creep' and over-travel essentially shortening the pull distance of the trigger via a custom trigger, you can run into the 'hair trigger' issue if you're not careful when drawing from the holster.. Most of the time when you're talking about cops or civilians carrying glocks, negligent discharges are usually due to not using a solid enough holster that covers the trigger-well. Equipment or clothing and sometimes fingers get caught on that trigger and set the gun off. Simple solution, don't carry with one in the chamber or make sure you have the correct holster.
One negligent twitch if I may say so.
And I'm not a fan of modifying triggers on Glocks.
None are because of the Reduced Trigger weight.
ALL are because of NEGLAGENCE.
Don't have your finger on the Trigger unless you're ready to destroy what's at the other end.
A twitch should not make the Firearm go off.
Some no doubt, but I've seen several involving on duty police officers, and I don't think they're allowed to modify triggers.
@@booga-squirrel4566 I agree. Still, all these guntubers talking about modifying the trigger on their carry piece. Not a good thing, IMO, considering most are not as experienced as they believe.
I find myself in agreement with you. Iam 72 years old and have been around firearms since the day I was born. I'm also retired from the US ARMY. When new shooters ask me for a recommendation I always go with a conventional DA/SA revolver in 357 magnum. But I recommend they start with 38 Special and progress to +P and eventually 357 magnum. If they can afford it I also recommend an understudy revolver in 22LR. While my favorite pistol is whichever 1911 I'm am holding at any given moment (I have 2 dozen in my collection), my EDC is a S&W 442 or a decocked Canik TP9DA when my wardrobe permits.
I have been a firearm owner for many, many years, and I have a few striker-fired pistols, and all of them have manual safeties. I prefer to carry a revolver, but sometimes I carry one of my semi-autos as they are thinner and easier to conceal.
It's also the most resold gun. Now outmatched by other options. It's 2022 and not 2005.
No it isn’t.
Idk I bought my first g19 and I like them.
@@joshuaculick7767 It is not that they are bad guns. But at this point it is showing its age in the market. The company didnt keep up with what the market demanded, which is why the aftermarket came in with triggers, stippling, slides, metal sights, ect.
When I can go grab a p320 or 365 have several frames, with or with out manual saftey and a better trigger out of the box. Or a Cz or one of the many Glock alikes that have some, if not all, of the desired aftermarket features already built in by almost any decent company.
I've never owned a Glock, and never will. I've been an old .45 "slabsides" guy since I carried one in the military. It's my go-to sidearm. Very easy to operate. Three safety's. Never had an accidental discharge.
My Browning "High Power" agrees, "cocked AND locked"! 👍👍
I totally agree.I started shooting at 17 and am now 69.Always carried a 1911 in 45.Wont carry smaller calibre as I don't trust their "Stopping Power".
@@geraldreynolds9650 I get why you carry .45 ACP, While I don't feel "undergunned" with 9mm. (Esp. with modern ammo..) I can understand that more is better than less, In my case I chose capacity. This is NOT to say "capacity is KING", as I often carry a .357 Mag. snub revolver! However the point of the video was about the Glock's action. Hell you CAN get a Glock in .45 ACP or a "1911" in 9mm, But the "1911" (and the P35 "High Power") and their ilk (Single action semi auto) is what I'm used to. A "1911" is a SOLID CHOICE in "our" camp. As is is the "P35" (I am "only" 60 if that means anything) My grandfather was a cop and the S&W M&P .38 S&W Special (Now known as the Model 10) revolver was department (city) "issue". BUT, He was a Huuuge "1911" enthusiast. Too bad he retired long before autos became the "norm" for police! He'd have carried the "1911"!
1911s are the perfect hand gun. like You said and You do not need high capacity just make Your shots count You can get 1911s in 9mm 357 sig 38 super 22,10mm,40 cal and even some high power mag calibers if You want to spend big bucks for one.
Not impressed at all with Glocks. I'll stick what my taurus. I don't like the feel, lack of balance in a glock.
Plus they are too damb expensive. You can get a good quality taurus for under 400$
The Glock crowd is like a Cult
Sounds like more of a manual safety vs not than a Glock vs not. Lots of guns and brands don't have a manual safety.
So far this year, I've added three Glocks to my inventory - a pair of G-17s and a G-19. I've easily mastered them. But, my EDC is still a 1911.
Friggin Nice oldie but quite dependable. I've found a 400 Cor Bon barrel for the 1911. Reloading cuts the factory costs. Munitions Scary expensive lately.
@@chunglow7646 I also have a carbine kit for my 1911. Too bad it's only available in .45 ACP, because a .400 Cor-Bon would be vicious in a 16 inch barrel.
normalMy CorBon is mild. Supposedly a magnumized 40 caliber. in the 5" barrel of a 1911 I got a 135g out from 1325-1500 fps. Brass lasts long because the case rests on the shoulder. I've formed 400 from either once fired 45ACP or ordered New 400 CB brass from Starline. Stuff! I'd recently found some new 45Super brass from Starline bought a few years back. The SUPER head case was thicker vs 400 Cor Bon brass. Possibly for hotter loads to push various projectiles up to the 10mm velocity safely. There's a convern on the bevel cutout that allows the cartilage to enter the chamber. Blowouts possible with normal walled cases. that's Why I ordered the 45 Super brass. Safety is my concern. I ain't pumping it up to 10mm pressure. I'll just get a 10mm. I had one regular 45 ACP case formed into CB and it blew out the remainder of cartridges in the magazine! Spring was bent and trashed. The load wasn't excessive. just a mid-level load for the 135g Hornady hollow point. @ about 1400 fps. weak brass let gas blow out the back plug on the upper. Safety Glasses were a lifesaver.
@@kevins1114 metinks that a 16" barrel can accellerate it towards rifle velocity grasshopper. I don't have my load books handy. 1700-1800 fps might be feasible. IDK
I have daily carried a Glock 22 for over 15 years,but I totally agree with you about new gun owners.
Glock 22 .40 Caliber. In my humble opinion.......The Best Duty Glock Ever!
@@martyc1533 Yes,I love it.
@@billyray8062 After carrying the old S&W Model 5906 9mm for several years, my agency issued the Glock Model 22 .40 Caliber to each Officer along with a Glock Model 27 .40 caliber as the authorized "back up" firearm if the Officer chose to carry one. It was the only backup allowed. As the Senior Firearms Instructor I observed that the switch from the Smiths to the Glocks went very well with qualification scores going up. We issued Hydra Shok 155 Grain JHP ammunition and allowed for 50 extra rounds (NOT including the required 4 Quals a year, 2 day / 2 night) per month if an Officer chose to shoot on their own. Sadly, most did not. The Glock 22 performed so well that I have purchased several and carry it now as a Security Director at a private school. I even have one dedicated to a MCarbo Micro set up! Anyone who knocks the .40 and says the 9mm is just as effective has not really done their homework on ballistics. Is the 9mm at its best (124 Speer Gold Dot) a bad round, NO! But it does not compare to the .40 at it's best. I spent 6 years as the Captain in charge of the Police Training Division and found that yes, some recruits, mostly smaller males and females, did struggle a bit with the "snappy" recoil of the .40. But with enough trigger time they overcame it and shot well. I understand the big switch back to the 9mm which has made great strides since the 115 FMJ. I also understand that due to less range time (????) it is easier to handle the soft recoil of a 9mm and adapt to it quicker. All that being said, I will keep my Model 22 and 23!!!!
During my years in law enforcement, and the military, the Glocks had the highest number of accidental discharges by far and that was with individuals that received a lot of annual training. Don't get me wrong, I like them. Just saying.
Thanks for your info and service. Is the number high from discharges on the re-holster or from lack of trigger finger discipline?
@@williamryan9195 Not to answer for Mike, but a lot of people forget about the human factor. A light trigger with no safety plus a huge adrenaline surge equals a much higher probability of accidentally popping off a round. I've seen several trained people do that just due to the adrenaline rush of a competition or doing a particular drill against the clock. How much more likely to happen when you're suddenly fighting for you life? Trigger discipline is one thing, but no one can stop the loss of fine motor function that comes with a big dump of adrenaline and fear.
Not the gun, the operator.
@@rElliot09 When it's statistically far more likely with one particular gun over others, with a sample size of millions of shooters, it's also the gun. If it was only the operator it would happen just as often with everything else.
@@Falconryder Not if the sample size isn't the exact same for all guns in the study. I guarantee you it was not. Further, Glock was a transitional firearm in years past for departments transitioning from revolvers. It was the learning curve that was the issue, not the weapon.
When a new buyer asks me to recommend a first gun, I never recommend a specific gun. What I do is educate them about the different types of action (striker, single action semi-auto, hammer-fired DA/SA semi-auto, revolver, etc) and go over the various safety features of each type, the extent to which they have safeties, and the extent to which you need a manual safety. Then, I discuss calibers. But ultimately I advise them to go to a rental range a try a variety off guns before they buy anything. Never had anyone complain about that advice.
Best comment so far. I was a gun snob who listened to my buddies before being forced to carry Glocks for a 23 year Law Enforcement career. Now I still own some fancy guns but carry a Glock every day. Bottom line is new gun owners need training and the opportunity to try various guns before making a decision. Then they should choose what works for their own comfort level and experience. While I will choose a Glock most times does not make it the right choice for everyone
I bought my first gun ever last year and I got a Smith and Wesson shield plus w/ manual safety. It's going to be my CCW when I get my license and I'm a dad so a manual safety on my carry was very important to me. I agree that there are better choices for a new gun owner other than Glock.
I love my shield plus.
I LOVE my SHIELD PLUS!!!
Get yourself a set of TRU-GLO tritium night sights for it!!!
They are AMAZING!!
White dots in daytime.
Green dots in nighttime!!!
I’m a surprisingly big fan of the Shield for conceal carry.
Couldn't agree more with you for first time gun owners. In fact, I am totally the opposite. I know this is not a popular option, but I am of the belief that the best gun for first time owners, is a revolver. If possible one that chambers at least 6 rounds (give or take, depending upon the person's size, a smaller person might need a smaller 5 round revolver). A revolver is simple, easy to master, and no question if the safety is on or not (no safety to worry about) but it is not of the ilk to be afraid of no safety. A simple gun to get use to firing. Also if going to carry in a pocket, they can fire through the pocket without having to try to get out of the pocket first. Then they don't have to worry if the slide will get caught up on the material of the pocket. After they get use to shooting at the range and gets comfortable with it, then if they want a semiautomatic, they have experience and a comfort level they would not have going straight to the semiautomatic.
Just a few thoughts from
LA Marty's attic.
P.s. say hi to Maggie.
Totally agree. In fact, a revolver is our bedside table gun, since my wife is familiar with it, and to be honest, if I am woken suddenly from a deep sleep and need to grab a gun, I want the wheel in my hand also.
Simple and Reliable.
That's enough for me.
I'm OK with a manual safety on a 1911, but that's about it.
A manual safety is just one more action to put the gun into use.
That's one of the reasons I didn't buy a Springfield XD when my dad did several years sgo because it's got the grip safety on it
@@freedomfan4272 an XD was my first pistol. I've never had an issue engaging the grip safely. I taught my sister to shoot it and it helped her place a proper grip as the first couple times shooting it she had issues firing due to improper grip.
@@steveeab2364 I love Springfield firearms. I think I'm on my 6th now. Never a hiccup. Almost all guns now are reliable, it's more a preference thing. I just feel Springfield is the best value, no plastic sights and unpolished parts.... some firearms are just better quality I guess.
@@XDM10 Agreed. I had a slight issue with my XDs where when I added the plus 1 it wouldn't eject the case of that +1 round. Worked itself out after the first 7 or so magazines and no issue since in the next 100 mags. I mentioned that to a Glock worshiper and oh my goodness, you can imagine the lecture I got because glockenspiel has apparently never had an issue or needed a break in in the history of forever.
@@steveeab2364 The grip safety on the XD is fine because it's passive. The problem with it is it locks the slide shut. You need three hands to lock the slide back to show clear.
Been a Glock 43 owner for years wouldn’t give it up for anything I love it So we’ll just have to agree to disagree on this video
If you’ve had the 43 for years the 19 would be a nice addition.
Try out the 43x or 19 both are great too
I carry a 42. I also have a 19 but it`s too big to carry imo
Well then you're not a new shooter, are you? Kind of a different question than the one in the video.
@@Falconryder he was giving his opinion, it’s ok.
I always recommend a S&W M&P 9mm 2.0 they have a thumb safety option and without thumb safety , great ergonomics , nice factory stipple grip , decent trigger , and it’s very dependable! Perfect
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Shoots sooo well too. Not snappy at all. Mine eats anything I put in it, and I’ve never had a single malfunction from it(knocks wood)… great pistol
Very valid information that many need to hear. I once owned a full-size Glock model 22 in 40 cal, great fit, accurate, with no recoil...however no manual safety. I know with many folks that's not an issue, but with my wife and I keeping our young grandkids and I'm in my late 60's, I just felt the manual safety was my best safe option. All my S&W's and other pistols makes, all have manual safety's.
I own lots of guns and have carried one professionally for 21 years. There are lots of great handguns, but for me the Glock 22 for winter and Glock 19 for summer are the best choices. For brand new shooters, I still think a revolver or DAO pistol is usually a better choice.
Why do you choose 40sw for the winter and 9mm for the summer?
@@Prepare2Survive beat me to it, seems like a 23 that could share ammo and mags from the 22 would make more sense.
@@Prepare2Survive Likely for more pen and Ft/lbs. Alot of people layer in the winter. At least that's why I would do it if I did.
I agree, especially with the revolver since most new gun buyers are not gun people.
Has it rained out at the lake though?
I agree and will happily stick with my Walther PPK and PP22.
I have an old PPK and LOVE it.
Hard to screw up with the dependability of a Glock-yet some people still manage it. Our family go-to guns are a Sigs and Kimber revolver. Great comments and excellent points.
Screwing up has nothing to do with the dependability of a handgun was the whole point.
Good advice for the novice gun owner. I have recommended to a few people who have never ever fired a gun in their life. I recommended a revolver first. I explained about malfunctions that happens with a new pistol. I told them about snap Capps and learning how to fix the problem by practicing with the dummy round without lowering the auto . It takes practice, but it can be done. Also about spare mags and rotating the ammo every few months to give the springs a break. Recommended a 357 which they can fire 38 special. They look at me like I am talking a foreign language.
I now own several firearms, but never really interested in Glocks. I shot my brother's Glock last week with the new Timney trigger and WOW, what a different shooting experience. Not as mushy and the reset was fire. Now is my time to get a Glock. Thanks for the video though, there's a lot of new gun owners out there that haven't really thought all this through. Keep up the good work, we love you brother!
I do not like external safeties. My first pistol was an early Gen3 Glock 19, a police trade in. That was 12 years ago and I still shoot that gun. I won many Glock competitions with that pistol. They are accurate and reliable, smooth and perfect for concealment.
Gen3 19 is the best 19
Just remember the most important safety is the one between your ears. For the past 25+ years I have had a loaded Glock with no safety on me or close at hand. It has never unintentionally discharged. The presence of mechanical safeties cannot make up for poor gun handling or violating basic safe practices.
An observant firearms owner will notice there are no references to a manual safety in the firearms safety rules.
The only exception might be a mention that a mechanical safety can fail and should never be relied upon.
NOTHING can make up for poor gun handling or violating basic safety rules. Handguns, like lit cutting torches, running chainsaws or pressure sensitive explosives are DANGEROUS in the hands of the careless, untrained or idiots. No amount of "safety features" can "fix" that. The only "Safe" handgun is unloaded and in pieces on the workbench being cleaned. A handgun is supposed to be Dangerous, to the target not innocent bystanders or the owner.
My everyday carry has been a fully loaded Glock 27 for over 10 years. As dumb as it sounds I have dropped that thing on the ground many times while doing hard work that the holster wasn't ready for. Yet as long as I keep the gun clean it has never had any issues.
Was brought up on Glock. Never knew any difference till my early twenties. Have a couple Sigs and a lot of Glocks. I can see your point in regards to new shooters and manual safeties.
Not an issue if new shooters are taught correctly. And practice safely and correctly.
I'm a new shooter. I went with a Glock 22 Gen 5. The controls were stiff at first. I spent 20 minutes a day working all the controls until I could handle the gun with my eyes closed, with no ammo of course.
@@joesotelo9905 everyone has their own comfort levels. it's not 'wrong' for one person to be concerned about a weapon w/no manual safety. They may well develop the confidence in time but for many newer shooters the safety provides one added level of insurance. this is not a bad thing.
I don’t if you don’t pull the trigger the gun doesn’t fire how damn hard is that. Unless you’re talking about a damn kid that can’t keep there hands off of there gun or something. A safety also is no good for people to stupid to check it.
@@billf4995 You are correct.
But I've seen new and not so new shooters rely heavily on the Flip Safety. Instead of proper handling of the Firearm.
You know SAFTY is our ultimate goal.
Thought twice, bought twice. I love my Glocks !!
My first pistol was a Ruger LC380 based on the recommendation from a gun store owner. It has a manual safety and I am able to use it very well. Glad a Glock wasn’t my first however I may purchase one in the future if I see a great deal on one.
FYI the LC380 has been extremely reliable after 5 years, and it makes a great concealed unit.
I’m not sure I would beat my life on a 380.
@@jeffcallahan5373 .380 will get the job done. If it doesnt its because you weren't a good shot. The .380 has the same level of statistical stopping power as 9mm and .45 acp. If you don't believe me go look it up. If you want a better category then ditch 9mm and .45 for .357 magnum
I've been carrying 2 glocks daily for over a decade, I understand and respect your points, all just training issues though... And when I say training, I don't mean range practice with buddies, I mean going to a respected/well known training facility and taking classes, not just the minimum of what someone's state requires... Peace be with you!
You said "I mean going to a respected/well known training facility and taking classes, not just the minimum of what someone's state requires" WELL SAID!!
Could not have said it better! I love my 26 and 43. Zero issues. Safety and training first. I cannot recommend enough to take advanced training courses from well respected trainers. I put over 600 rounds through my 43 this past weekend, all within a short time period in many different scenarios - all with safety being the number 1 priority.
Thank you for your thoughts on Glocks for a new gun owner. I would be curious what the ratio of Glocks purchased and returned versus other brands of striker-fired non-manual safety guns returned. My guess is they are statistically even. I’ve carried Glocks for ten years and I think the industry has surpassed them for cost/value as well as grip/angle and “shootability.” On a side note, I would also believe that under the pressure of a self-defense scenario, disengaging a manual safety would be as much a liability for a new user as the risk of a negligent discharge. Thanks again.
Funny how that wasn't covered
Yes, it is possible that someone could forget to take the safety off in a situation of extreme stress. But that's why I carry a hammer fired cz p01 that is decock only. You hit the decock lever, it will drop the hammer to the half cock position. Your first trigger pull is a long double action. Then each shot after is a short single action.
I definitely agree with the cost/value of alternatives to Glocks. You can get some models of the Sig Sauer P365 or the Smith & Wesson Shield with better features such as night sights out of the box for around the same price point as a Glock. The triggers on these other options are often better as well. On the manual safety issue, most of these striker-fired pistols are designed to not need one. As long as the universal rules of firearm safety are followed and the pistol is well maintained, it won't fire without the trigger being pulled. Most of the manual safeties I've seen on striker-fired pistols are too small to be easily disengaged in a self-defense situation anyway.
@@JohnnyReb2000 I agree with you that the Glock’s built in safeties should keep it from firing unless the gun is out of speck or the trigger is pressed. Several other popular striker-fired alternatives seem to lack some of the Glock’s built in precautions, and the shooter may be better off with an additional manual safety with those other brands. I also agree that it is really difficult to engage some of the smaller striker-fired manual safeties. My rule of thumb is: if a gun has a manual safety train to use it…this is another reason I shoot Glocks!
This guy has no idea what guns were returned and what weren't. Return a gun? You would lose your ass for one thing.
My first gun was a Glock 19 but I had to take numerous classes to train and be proficient with the gun in order for me to be comfortable with me to carry it. But Yes, for me I shoot better with other guns like a sig P320 with the flat trigger is better for me. I think your first pistol purchase should include extensive training until you a comfortable with a firearm.
Friends don’t let friends buy glocks
I always advise new gun owners to buy a revolver as their first pistol.
Some good points here, I believe there the duality that the Glock can be the easiest to shoot accurately under stress by it's overall design features, then there is the concern of a striker fired as you mentioned for the inexperienced...for me, Glock is the safest platform.
For recommendations, I go with any of the micro nines, or even smaller for a newbie who plans to have dicipline to carry the gun.
All of those work like a Glock anyway.
With internals that are basically the same and only changed enough not to get sued.
Drawing from concealment, AND then disengaging a safety is for an expert, not a newbie.
So is decocking like it is 1996 before reholstering.
If the 6lb trigger feels too light, there is nothing wrong with using factory parts to go to 8lb, with the NY1 on a Glock.
If this still is uncomfortable, a shrouded or hammer-less revolver might be a consideration.
Thinking there is some super quick way to bring a gun that is shut off mechanically from concealment, to being ready to fire mechanically, without a hindrance is fantasy land.
That fantasy land gun is the HKP7.
I'm ex LEO,and have been shooting for over 50 years and could not agree with you more !!!!
I just last year purchased my first and probably last Glock!!!!
I'm personally not a fan, I carry round in the pipe and if I needed to pull any of my weapons it takes a mili second to take the weapon off safety.
That being said I do carry my walther ppx from time to time and it has no safety at all.
I agree with you 100%. This is my story. When my wife decided she wanted to learn to shoot I took her to the range with the few pistols I had that included a USP compact nine, sig 380, And a S&W bodyguard. She did not like any of them for various reasons. Which included racking the guns, trigger pull, and overall feel. She felt they were all too “busy’. I didnt own a Glock at the time but got G 19 and let her try it out. We went back to the range and her first impressions were that it felt good in her hand, it was easy to rack, and it didnt have all the other “stuff”. She shot it and said this will work. And she is completely satisfied how it shoots. I decided to buy one for her and my adult son. This went into a philosophy of use, which was that it made sense to me that if anyone in the family picked up one type of gun, there would be immediate familiarity. So that was why it went with the 19.
This is for home protection and not for carry. She can pick it up and it will go bang. The only thing that is required if it doesnt is to rack the slide .
I have no dog in the race. The fact that she liked it and family familiarity was the deciding factor. However For What it is worth, i carry a Sig P365.
Thank you for your channel!
I was looking at glocks when I got this notification lol
Keep looking. Talk with people who know what they’re talking about and get training. Not saying you have to get a Glock, but this message is totally off base.
Crap grip angle and they’re plastic. “Don’t do it kid, it ain’t worth it”.
@@oleboy7615 I already own a g21. I just need something a bit smaller like a G45 MOS for better concealment. I have huge hands so having a big gun doesn’t always suffice. Shot the g45 and fell in love with it.
@@moobutt I just don’t like the finger grooves on previous gens. That’s about it
@@Mk7.5Ronin for shyts n giggles i bought a beretta apx. Beretta version of the glock and I like it better than my g17. Check em out.
I think this is solid advice. My first gun was a Glock 17, a very nice pistol. I bought a revolver soon after, I feel way more comfortable with it. It seems much safer and I feel more comfortable with my wife using it. Now, I want a DA/SA Beretta with a manual safety.
I think you will like the comfort and safety the DA/SA Beretta brings to you. The double action gives you that extra control and the single action follow ups are faster than striker at least for me. I own only one striker fire in my rotation, and it has a manual safety. I like Glock but don't own any at the moment. The 30SF is the only Glock that could fill a role for me. The Beretta is a superior weapon to Glock in many areas.
Beretta makes nice guns, but you should try out the CZ line too. I've found CZ to have much better triggers than the Berettas usually do, and the Shadow II is awesome. Smooth as butter double-action trigger pull, and light, crisp single action. Whatever you get, best of luck with your new gun!
Thank you for an honest evaluation of glocks I carry a Glock 20 and feel secure, every gun needs to be treated with knowledge and respect and the Glock pistol as you said is not for everyone.
I carried a Glock 19 for years as my EDC. I spent a lot of time just dry fire handling it to get comfortable with it. Re-holstering was always done carefully and deliberate. I switched to a 1911 in .45 acp last year, not because of my concern over not having a manual safety but more that I just prefer the 1911 and I shoot that much more accurately than I did with my 9mm Glock. Regardless of what type of gun someone chooses, training and regular dry-fire practice are key. Beginners and experienced handgun owners should train often to keep skills up and negligent discharges down.
I own a Glock 17 nice weapon but I prefer my Sig P226 in 45 much more accurate
That is very helpful information Mark! Wish everyone was providing that kind of information. Just like you said, people can recommend great guns, but for new gun owners, they wouldn’t know to ask those kind of questions. I am a fairly new gun owner and I would hope before someone was to give me recommendations that they would take the time, just as you did, to ask questions before suggesting the perfect gun for me. I always learn something new by watching your videos. Thank you!
I had a Glock 43 for a short while but felt really uncomfortable with it as my carry gun. I just prefer my Charter Arms OFF DUTY to carry with a very heavy trigger. My home defense pistol is a 1911 type 9mm simply because I was trained on a 1911 in the Navy and that is what my hand prefers to be holding.
A new gun owner is also more likely to be unable to disable the safety under stress or clear a jam. Personally, I suggest a K-frame revolver (because the whole family can easily be taught how to operate it safely) to all first time gun buyers and if they are not interested in the simplicity of a revolver I do suggest a Glock 19, but I always suggest they let me give them free training whatever choice they make. The same argument can be made for the Glock to be a first time gun owner's choice. The lack of a safety and the simplicity of a Glock is ideal when a new gun owner needs the gun to go bang. Also, there are more good affordable holsters (which cover the trigger) made for a Glock than any other gun. Also. if they change their mind and desire a gun with a safety, a Glock retains it's value well and is easily sold.
Agreed
Aftermarket support makes the Glock a good choice.
A manual safety (S&W Model 59) caused me to "not fear" ripping my own gun from the hand of a wacko who found where it was, and pointed it straight at me. (Mental issues). You can have your fast deploy glock. She did a few months in jail..several times..for other issues too.
🤦♂️😳 glad that turned out OK brother. Unfortunately they don't disclose they are batsh!t crazy in the beginning. 😂
I totally agree with you. THAT is why I have several Springfield Armory XD pistols. The grip safety gives me much peace of mind. It has a definite edge with safety. One can just holster it by holding the bottom of the grip...holstering itself seems the be where most Glock ADs occur...
My first gun was a Glock 26, which I still have. I made the investment in myself to get proper training. This is what is woefully missing from most gun owners experience IMHO.
Glock was one of the first pistols I ever tried it was back in the late 90s. Glock gen 3 had just recently debuted. I’ve been a fan ever since. I’m not a Glock fan boy though. I also like classic metal sigs, browning hi power, 1911, and beretta 92. Fantastic video.
There is nothing wrong with being a fanboy. It’s actually possible to be a fanboy of more than one, like I am. Just a thought.
I was a new gun owner and I bought Glock. I never regretted it.
Same here. I now own 3. I'm looking to buy a Glock 27.
I've run Glocks since the early 90s in my law enforcement days up until now. I absolutely love them. However, when loaded and ready to go it's either holstered, or a Raven trigger guard is snapped over the frame. I do agree with your views on new gun owners needing a lot of training, external safety, or both.
I completely agree, I bought my first handgun recently and was almost gonna get a Glock, but I went for a Jericho 941 instead. Its a full steel frame with a hammer and decocker, I feel like I can operate it incredibly safely so far which was my primary concern. Plus I know a lot about old school guns with hammers but not so much about striker fired guns, which means it probably wouldnt be smart to start with a striker fire even though I want to get a Glock (and or a Masada) eventually. Both Jericho and Glock are highly modifiable as well, so thats something a first timer needs to consider if going with that. Some people like to modify their guns some want it stock out of the box. The Glock is by far the most modifiable handgun on the market that Ive seen, but in some ways it NEEDs to be modified to be in the best shape possible as far as Ive researched. Jericho stock configurations gives you a lot more out of the box in my opinion.
Mark... Thank you for saying this! I've been saying this exact same thing for years! God Bless You!
I bought a 2nd gen 19 as soon as I turned 21 out here in California in 1989. I would choose a Glock over any other handgun if I could only have one.
Good advice! I think the best gun for a first time owner would be a double action revolver.
PS, I have an older S&W M&P 9 with no manual safety, but I really like it. 😉
Safely is Yur organic finger vs a metal safety. prosper Past 2022 grasshopper
Glock 23 40 cal was was first gun pushase soon as I turned 21 & now I'm 36 years old & It's still my favorite gun & I have absolutely no regrets 👌🏾
My G19 is my favorite off duty carry pistol, but I have been in law enforcement for almost 30 and carry a pistol every day. Without the experience of daily on duty carry, I would probably be nervous carrying a pistol that doesn’t have an external safety.
Very True words of wisdom about clocks safety concern, due to too many accidental shooting.
Having a manual safety is needed for most new and old clock owners
Agree 100 percent!
Not keeping your finger off the trigger, but clothing, spent cartridges and such getting into the holster.
I appendix carry and will only use a striker fired with a manual thumb safety or a hammer fired.