Texan Reacts to Carolean's Prayer Swedish and English Versions by Sabaton
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Both Swedish and English versions of the Carolean's Prayer by Sabaton. Really great song and chorus.
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Been a Sabaton fan for a long time and there are no bad albums from them, but this album has a special place in my heart. I hope you will listen to every song from this album.
So on top of the other comments here, the interesting part that is reflected in the lyrics and might be overlooked is that the Caroleans had a very fatalistic outlook on life and death, judging everything to be predetermined and actually believing the world to work according to god's will. The fact that they were all so indoctrinated in this world view meant that they were able to be extremely courageous in the battle line and enact the tactic of advancing until they could see the white of their enemies eyes: In their mind, they were convinced that if god willed this to be the day of their death, then so be it, nothing could change that. It was already predestined, told in heaven and therefor enacted on earth. It was of course not the only thing that made them brave, but without this belief I doubt anyone could have made a fighting force that advances through the volleys, unfazed by their friends dying beside them. This enabled them to be extremely effective shock troops and the ratio of casualties were often extreme, with only a couple of hundred Caroleans falling while killing literally thousands.
That’s kind of crazy, it sounds almost like older armies around the times of the crusades. Conviction can be an extremely powerful trait for an army.
Correct but they more than often also routed armies rather than killing thousands in one battle.
You kind of had to be religious when starvation was just a bad harvest away and a plague of some kind could kill friends and family at any time.
On the battlefields of the time with men dropping left and right seemingly at random and you wondering if/when it's your turn it would be hard not to catch religion if you didn't already have it.
@@PlanetaryDefense Definitely, that's why I'm highlighting the fatalist approach of these soldiers. It's one thing to feel that god is great and things happen for a reason and another to believe that god micromanages every little event and that each person's life is written stone. It was a very fanatic type of christian belief that goes above and beyond just faith in general, and while it wasn't unheard of to interpret christianity like this historically it was far from the norm. Most western cultures historically believed that some events were fated and that god was all powerful, but to the extent of marching straight into bullets without blinking was far from common.
Also remember that the vikings had the same type of belif.
Rather than having a specific viewpoint it describes the mindset of the caroleans.
As a history buff il give some info. Most armies in these days started shooting at 100 meters, while the Swedes went forward till u could see the whites of the eyes of the enemies. Then the first wolley was done, after that the swedes went forward another 25 meters before shooting 2 wolleys and then ran into melee. This tactics was very effective.
This is why we swedes were some of the most feared soldiers
Very effective -when the enemy formation broke, which they usually did. But when the enemy formation held, the Swedish losses where horrendous.
@@mah2126 Minor details
"Terror Panicus" the enemies thought that if they looked into the eyes of a Swedish soldier (on the battlefield) you could die of shock "terror panicus". (The Battle of Lund in 1656)
@@mah2126 Worked most of the time though. That’s why he defeated Denmark-Norway and Saxony-Poland-Lithuania. The war was lost due to the heavy attrition taken when campaigning deep in Russia. And to his excuse he was the first to make that mistake. Napoleon the second and Hitler the third.
This album is on a level of its own. A masterpiece.
The first part of the Swedish video includes the 4th verse from the poem Kung Karl, den unge hjälte(King Charles the Young Hero), written in 1818 by Esaias Tegnér.
This is the direct traslation of it:
"There was a big heart beating
from his swedish chest,
In joy as in pain
Just for the right spirit.
in success and defeat alike,
his succeeding superior,
He could not yield
He could only fall."
Hello RayceOfHistory, just wanted to say, thank you for reacting to my upload of the Swedish version the Carolean's Prayer from Sabaton, I only just now noticed your reaction video :) Glad you enjoyed it - God Bless!
8:58 - There were a significant number of German expats/immigrants to Sweden during the late middle ages. many of them held positions of influence, small or great, and they have given Swedish a quite significant number of loanwords.
I am so god damn happy you reacted to this song man! In my mind, this is their best song.
Carolus Rex, is by far their best album
I really like it too, it’s great. I think it’s the only album I’ve essentially done all of.
It's great that you do both versions in the same video.
At this time Sweden uses a system of alotment to requit soldiers. Sabaton history will inform you of all the details if you watch the videos about this album. In practise though Sweden consripted soldiers as needed during the Great northen war. Especially after poltava when they lost the veteran Carolean army.
I try to do the Sabaton history for all of their songs. I may had missed the first couple but I try to get to all of them now, so the history video for this song should be my next video out.
Caroleans wasnt aloud to fire their rifles until they could see the white in the enemies eyes. Imagen how intimidating that must have been...
.. and this was because the risk of missing a target and inflict harm was to great at a greater distance. Better to be sure the first bullet strikes true.
the church was pretty much involved of recruting soldiers at that time in Sweden
Ja, antar att du kanske vet det eftersom du har koll på kyrkans rekrytering i Sverige men i alla fall… det är väldigt intressant hur kyrkan användes som propagandamedel inte bara för att rättfärdiga krig utan även som rekryteringsverktyg i Sverige kontra många andra europeiska länder som exempelvis Frankrike om du har tid att läsa om det rekommenderas detta!
some of the best shock troop tactics I think the 1700s had ever seen
I really like how you do these in both Swedish and English!
Being Swedish myself ive always thought the lyrics on the Swedish version had better "flow" and rhymes that were more poetic.
Its really interesting to get your perspective on it.
Also Swedish and German are pretty closely related languages, at least when it comes to a lot of the vocabulary, less so with the grammar thought (poor German school children)
Idk,just dropped by to say that you're kinda amazing 👏. Keep up the good work and have the best New Years ever.Odin's blessings to you and your family 🙏
I greatly appreciate the words and support. Happy new years to you and yours also.
The chorus of this song is my favourite as well, and one of the reasons for it is that putting the Lord's prayer in there creates an extremely powerful visual for me. I can see in my mind's eye how having those words always in their minds could make those soldiers strong, implacable, fearless, and feeling bound to a power much greater than the mortal armies that they encountered. I can see how people who believed so strongly could be moved into serenely marching on even into death, and it's such a strong and extremely tragic picture. Thanks for reacting to this video!
It's actually interesting that it is also educating listening to these songs - especially as we often glorify our history and condemn religious fanaticism today, it's refreshing to see it brought to light that we were absolute fanatics ourselves not that long ago, waging war for king, country and martyrdom.
we where not our ancestors maybe was you dident live
My favorite album is heroes, there something special about seeing Sabaton sing individual stories like Stigler for example.
Those are awesome stories. And that particular one was one I had never heard of before.
This is actually 1 of the best sabaton songs and it's weird to hear it in english. In Finland we have swedish speaking ppl so it's official language and i do understand it and only version i wanna hear. You lose something with english version. It is from perspective of swedish soldier...they were superpower at that time and owned also Finland...
In name of god they went to war....as has happened in history million times...
We didnt own Finland. Sweden was Finland and Finland was Sweden. It was the same country. To bad we had to surrender Östra Riskhalvan to the russians.
Honestly Sabaton should make a song about Hakkapälitta!
@@swedishhenke6171 From my modern Finnish perspective the partition from Sweden is ambivalent. Finland gained an autonomous status within Russian Empire and Finns developed a national identity and practiced with state institutions in relative peace for 100 years. I dunno what would've happened to development of Finnish culture had it stayed as a part of Sweden. Would there been Finnish separatists, a peaceful independence, marginalization of Finnish culture or modern Sweden that's identity is bi-lingual? Interesting alt history indeed.
The English version is good, but the Swedish version has more patriotism in it. That's what I think, it feels stronger and makes you want to single handedly take on 100× more people than the English version.
also, the Swedish version is from the Swedish perspective in this album, and the English is the other country's perspective of these Caroleans.
Woah. I have to learn Swedish to learn what it says.
@@Mexican_Jedi there’s translations!
@@Hockey-gn2tj cool beans. Thanks man.
To be honest. It is the chill Viking energy
It's not really from a swedish soldier's POV but it's about what they thought and what they were all about and ofcourse what they prayed for. Swedish soldiers were called Caroleans at the time from Carolus Rex's father Karl XI's time. Since he created the new system the army followed the troops were named after him, Karl, Charles, Carolus. Caroleans, Karoliner.
Swedish and German has similarities because the both evolved from the old Germanic Language.
Not only that but the Germans heavily influenced Swedish trade for centuries, which means Swedish literally became German Light.....
@@hencytjoeNot really, but some of the plattdeutsh melody had a certain influence.
Sweden was a small country and we came in a way that we did not stop attacking despite the losses but filled the gaps and continued forward, where Sweden won against the enemy who had 10 times our strength. Poland, Denmark, Russia, Germany, Norway and France. This tactic is the murderous world war. It was then the lightning war of the time. This was what Germany copied during World War II.
Sweden during the 18th century, we had both a prosecial army, conscripted armies but also mercenaries.
Swedish is an excellent language to sing in. The melody of the spoken language really helps it sound good when sung. IMO
If I hade to pick any sabaton song as my favorite, this one would be it.
I’ve loved this whole album. I really like the different perspectives given in the Swedish vs English versions.
Poltava ( in the news these days) ; “de föllo som agnen för en lie” - They (Swedish soldiers) fell like straw from a scythe” ( the Russian fire)
Cheers from Sweden. These songs actually make me proud to me a Swede again. We can actually be proud again of our ancestry whitout being called ugly things like nazis. We never and will never be nazis we will NEVER be communists either however our history is OUR history and its time we get awarded for our history. British empire used Carolean shock tactics extensively after great northern war. Also before that our king Karl Gustav Adolf II revolutionised mobile warfare during 30 years war. The history behind caroleans power war the "indelningsverk" were farmers basically had to give up some land to "professional soldier" which in turn was both a sort of servitude worker but also a upper sides civilian with more power than a civilian this started with Charles the X and eleventh in 1685ish. Big hug and cheers from Sweden
Swedish and german is very similar, about 70% of the swedish language is in fact german with swedish endings. However the grammar are totaly different but as a swede im more or less able to read a news article, i dont get it all but the major part. The words i cant translate directly i can translate to english and to the little roman language i know.
So it sounds a little like german but swedish speaks with pitch, german dont and german sound a lot more agressive
About your backdrop. I can see french lillies on a blue background, and then, a red background with lions? Griffons? Is this Texan heraldry? All the best to you! Greetings from Jonas Gothenburg, Sweden. 😊
I certainly agree with your observation, that this album do have a specific soumd somehow, i cant exatly point out exatly what it is either, just saying i think thats a fact, i do prefer the English version of this one, but i also do like the swedish version better for some of the other songs on the album, just here i do get a better vibe of the song in English..
Its not a top pick Sabaton song for me, either from entire catalog, or just from this album.. still a nice one.
It is no coincidence that the Swedish language is called "The Language of Hinor and Heroes".
The king Carl of Swedens army was called Caroleans (after the King).
Sabaton are a great band with really good and meaningful lyrics. Can you please check out another Swedish band called Brothers of Metal and their song Kaunaz Dagaz?
Thanks.
If u like this one check out long live the King from the same album Carolus Rex
Sounds good, I'll add it to my list for this album.
"Indelningsverket" is what they used in those times. It was implemented by Karl XI in 1682. What they did was that 1 or several farms/ homesteds got together and gave a fotsoldier/cavalerist a home with a little bit of land for them to use and train. That way they got big tax relief and did not have to serve in the army. And sweden had soldiers in every big or small town. So when it was time for war sweden had a big well trained army. "Indelningsverket" was replaced in 1901 with "Värnplikt". (sorry for the bad english)
Is there any policy for military service today?
@@rayceofhistory At the age of 17-18 every man and woman have to go to "Mönstring" there they test each persons aptitude. They use this to see where that person can be best used in the military. If its tank service, infantry service, airservice or other type of service. And they also see if someone cant do military service one way or the other. When i was in the military in the late 90´s women didnt have to do "mönstring" if they didnt want to. But today they do.
You do military service at the age of 19-20.
@@sandbasterd5258 crazy. Someone had told me there was mandatory service, but I didn’t know how it was done. So the majority of people there have served at least some time in the military?
@@thomasholmgren85 does Sweden have a special forces? The reason I ask is because that sounds very similar to how the US does a lot of their special forces “recruitment”. Where they pull from the bigger pool of soldiers already in the military.
@@rayceofhistory Until 1995 all men had to do service and it was voluntary for women. The funding started to get cut from 1995 so less and less men did service. until around 2010-2012 then we started to have a proffesional army wherte you enlisted freely. But that didnt work werry well. So from 2017 all men and women serv in the military. People can allways refuse to carry guns and then they dont have to serv. So its alittle bit varid nowadays. Me personally want everyone to serve. Its a good way to grow up and become a adult. Most will dissagre with me here in sweden ;)
95% of all men have served in the military if they are born before around 1982
They definitely shortened the Swedish prayer which wouldn't sound as good in English. It'd be something like:
Give---us....our---bread....and---for--give....our---tres---pass---ing.
Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses.
That probably wouldn't fit well with the English, also even when shortened there are more syllables in the English prayer. When you said Swedish sounded more aggressive in fast sections probably because it has fewer syllables.
People had to enlist for the duration which in fact became for life.
It's the mindset and tactic of the Caroleans, they would put themselves in gods hands and march forward untill they could see the white of the enemies eyes, only then would they stop to fire while the enemy reloaded and charge them once they've fired.
Were are brothers from north with you Texans
9:40 Sweden has mandatory military service (conscription). For men since 1901 (deactivated between 2010 and 2017). Reactivated in 2017 by the Swedish government and now applies to both men and women. Sweden utilizes "Total Defence" (like Denmark, Finland, Ukraine, etc) where the people are a part of the nation's defense. Everybody is a part of "Totalförsvaret"(Total Defence), men and women 16-70. Divided into civilian duty and military duty. The training is between 6 and 15 months (starts after graduation from high school).
Modern day "Värnplikt" was written into law in 1873, but It really took into effect in the world wars. Basically because we could not afford to fund a standing army anymore. Before that we had sort of military serf that were awarded some land to live off in exchange for military service. And before that we are basically in Viking era when everyone were rallied to fight to survive.
The law did not change, but less people were called for service by the turn of the millennia. I was among 10% of the male population back in 2003. Later we had a few years when nobody were called for training. (But the law remained).
The law is quite similar to present day Ukraine, we are mandated to stay and fight for Sweden, or to do other tasks that is needed to have a functional society to maintain the war effort. How that law is to be enforced in war-time is another matter.
In Sweden the officers are employed professional soldiers, and back when Värnplikt was big, their main task was to train Värnpliktiga soldiers. As Värnpliktig you serve for 7-15 months in training and then 10 years in reserve. (10 years after training you are considered spent, but the law stipulates you should in case of war still go to your job and make sure Sweden continues to work despite the war, it is also a good assumption you will be a more valuable civilian asset 10 years after you completed your military training than a military asset)
Scandinavians is a north germanic people
kind of.. its out of the veiw of the Carolean one of the most fierce soliders in europe at the time
Yes thios is the swedish perspecive and probably how they saw it. The religious part is very important and its no wonder sweeds today hates war. Se hade war for like 400+ years before.
I highly suggest to react to this video either now in the near future or once you react to the great northern war series. ruclips.net/video/R5_YJNDXhlw/видео.html
It will explain how Sweden managed to do so much with so little. It will also explain how brilliant the Carolean soldiers and their doctrine was.
I will add it to my list. I'm hoping to start the series on the list from this era pretty soon.
Swedish is an northgermanic language. Related to german. Not strange you hear the similarity. 😅
Hi it been a year since you posted this but If you want to uunderstand the lyrics look up caroleans way of warfare it was completly difrent from the rest of europ
Sweden still have madatory military service for atleast one year. We stopped it for about 20 years, but recently started it agein. After the goverment realiced that the wast majority of the people who had gone trough it where in their 50 and 60s. And the other majority who had not where from 18 to 45s. And in case of war, that's werry bad statictics. Made even worse that most of those who had gone trough the service ,where whorn out, elderly guys who where in bad conditions (Overwheight). And probably would be pretty much useless in war. War is for the young who can run, jump, climb and fight whit out much issiues. Not for older people who struggle walking up stairs because of worn out knees, and huge back issiues from work accidents.
So they made it mandatory agein. But it's not like serving in the US military. You just learn the command structure, how to handle the weapons and equiptment. And how to do as told, when told. ANd a bit more. But essentially just the basics. Then there are the full military service for 4+ years, where you become a full time solider, where you get mutch more indepth training and an acual salary. And you get to chose what part you want to work whit in. Ex Infantry, cavalery, navy, airforce ect. + also got the option to go for the carrier brance of becoming an officer.
It has always surprised me that they chose to use the word 'Fatherland' in the text instead of 'Motherland' even though Sweden uses terms like 'Moder Svea', who as far as I know has always been depicted as a shield-carrying woman.
That’s an interesting distinction that I hadn’t really considered. I sort of assumed that Sweden commonly used “Fatherland”, but that might just be from videos like this that gave me that impression.
@@rayceofhistory It must have something to do with the chorus held in the morning and evening at each Swedish troop and consisted of a psalm verse being sung before and after a prayer, which was read by someone among the crew. After the end of the service, the commander called out the Warman's Prayer "God save the king and the fatherland!", which was repeated by the troop. In the Swedish navy, the squad replies "God hear it".
Serch for Sabaton history channel. They explain the backgound to most songs
I do the sabaton history's for most of the songs after I do the songs themselves.
The perspective of this song is how the carolean soldiers where indoctrined "soldiers of jesus/god etc.)" Even in lesser numbers against their foes they still marched into war and won many battles. As a swede this song is so powerful! Also all the companies where from the same countys. "Närke/värmland kompaniet etc." They where even from same village. To make a strong bound beetween each others.
The translation wasn't that great for the swedish version. Small details that they got wrong. Like "Morale and faith unites" not unite (and the font does not make it easy to tell that's a t) or "to curse God's name results in death", the more literal translation could be misunderstood.
Of course it also doesn't capture the "poetry" at all, though it's mostly serviceable.
i love this song
could you maybe react to the great northen war by extra credit?
It's on my list, that and deluge by I think Eastory are both on the list for the time period.
@@rayceofhistory very nice
The Swedish version of the album is so much much better than the English version if you understand the language.
I like the Swedish version more and I don’t understand the language. So I’m sure that’s probably the case.
Bro u need to come to sweden :)
I’m trying to, there is a bunch of stuff I’m wanting to go see.
Du har rätt. Svenska låter likasom tyska, speciellt om det handlar om uttal eller sprackuttryck. Eftersom Sabaton är ett svenskt band kan de författa texter enklare på svenska än på engelska. - You are right. Swedish sounds similar to german especially if it comes to pronunciation or phrases that a language contains. Because of Sabaton is a swedish band, they can write their lyrics more easily in swedish than in english. - The english translations in this album are sometimes a compromise to their english speaking audience. You can also watch the "sabaton history channel" for more information.
Both are great, but I think I prefer the Swedish version of this album even more. Maybe it’s because it’s about Sweden, by Swedes, or maybe I just think it sounds better. But I have had a few Swedish friends that have translated some video captions for me so that I can watch and follow along, and they’ve said how it’s hard at times to find exact translations so they just kind of generally give me the idea of what’s trying to be said.
The Sabaton history’s I’ve seen are great, a metal band taking a subject a ton of people find boring and putting it out to the masses through music is brilliant to me. Adding history background in the Sabaton history series is just them being extra awesome.
The Caroline soldiers were crazy, I had the pleasure to visit the battle field at Poltava and the war museum
The Russians was 120 000 men against 35 000 Caroline’s
Sadly it was a officer who made an error that’s why the sweds lost
A church was built to the honors of the dead soldiers and the cool part of that church is that half of the church has text and writings in Russian and the other half is in Swedish
Peter the great was a wuss
Not many know that Sweden suffered crop failures along the lines of the Irish potato famine. There was terrible overreach from the church into the micro affairs of families. Children of those in debt or the indigent could be taken and sold to the lowest bidder -- lowest, that is, in the amount the buyers would bill the state for their care annually. It was common for fishermen not to own the house, or the anchorage where they kept their boats. My great great grandfather had to call his landlord "master." To this day, no one can just start a business by just renting a shop and hanging out a shingle. Only a set number of business licenses are allowed to exist. Unlike here, you have to buy... say, a tobacco shop with its license, then hire a lawyer to convert it to the type of shop you want to open. And, yes there was conscription. All this in a time when America's doors were wide open to Northern Europeans. At 17, my great grandfather signed a contract with a farmer in Illinois to work for 5 years as a farm hand in return for paid passage. When he told his father, his father went to a drawer and turned around with a single shot pistol. My grandpa thought for a moment he was going to be shot. But his father, instead, wished him well, handed him the pistol, and told him to take it with him to America. ...My cousins in Sweden are still pissed about that. They want it back for a display in a fishing museum. Good luck with that. ••• That was long. Sorry. ••• Thanks! PEACE!!!
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if you like to lern more abut Carolean in more deep but not to much . look up Brandon F. The Caroleans: The Strengths and Weaknesses of Gå-På . religion extremism protestant lutheran State. it was illegal to skip or miss church. it was case en man hade study in catolica school in the youth. he got condemned to death for it. sorry for speling Dysleixa .
It’s pretty cool to be christian 🇸🇪
Dont you ever, EVER! compare me to german!/the Swedish language.
🤣🤣it sounds similar to an untrained ear!
@@rayceofhistory Yea, as you understand it was mostly in jest but english and german are more closley related to eachother than they are to scandinavian.
I mean.... It sounds different because maybe its closer to their heart? It is their (our) history after all. This was our last king with power. And he is quite controversial in our country too. For all the wrong reasons, but none the less.
I love the swedish versions because the lyrics are perfect. But english versions are good too.
And about the swedish conscription/drafting, it had gone back for a loooooooong time in a similar fashion, but what we have to this day is from this time in history. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Sweden
During the Viking age we had something called (in english) Leidang --> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leidang
I guess that would be what we had up until the 16-1700.
That’s why I think I like the Swedish versions of these songs more than the English. I like both, but there is a very personal feeling to all of the Swedish versions that I really like.