Macross Plus Was Ahead of its Time

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  • Опубликовано: 1 ноя 2024

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  • @AnimeMangaFiles
    @AnimeMangaFiles  7 месяцев назад +8

    "🚀 Welcome to the thrilling universe of 'Macross Plus'! 🌟 Did this review ignite your passion for mecha and sci-fi anime? Share your favorite moment from 'Macross Plus' or let us know which variable fighter you'd pilot, the YF-19 or YF-21? Sound off in the comments below and don't forget to like and subscribe for more anime deep dives! 🎵✈ #TeamIsamu or #TeamGuld? Let's get the conversation started!"

    • @anime-mun
      @anime-mun 6 месяцев назад +1

      Ok, to help with their ages. Isamu was 24, having been born March 27th 2015 according to the lore (wow, he was born half a year after my son... Damn I'm old.) Guld being half Zentradi is approximately the same age as is Myung....though nothing lorewise states their exact birthdays from what I've checked up on . Though the real screwy thing is Yang Neumann who designed the YF-19 is confirmed to be 17. Talk about weird.

    • @chilimbwe
      @chilimbwe 2 месяца назад

      I love the Star Trek clip.
      NOW, they knew the audience. #TeamFrigginYF19 #BryanCranston
      Overall thoughts, as Ginormous as the assignment was (otaku), they not only knew what it was - it ended like a series ending.
      He dropped the mic on their heads and walked off the stage with this project.

  • @kindasupersonic7114
    @kindasupersonic7114 6 месяцев назад +18

    In the end, they were still Bros and they both knew what needed to be done. This was such a good story.

  • @MrJamesshipman
    @MrJamesshipman 6 месяцев назад +27

    This was based off the Northrop Grumman versus Lockheed Martin bid for the airforce contract.
    And of course the entire soundtrack and Sharon apple is yoko kano.

    • @Yuriel1981
      @Yuriel1981 27 дней назад

      I believe the YF-19 is more physically based on the Su-47 rather than the X-29 by Grumman. After the X-29 project got canned long term by DARPA, Grumman took it to the Russians and continued development.

  • @iangarrett3308
    @iangarrett3308 6 месяцев назад +35

    Fun Fact: I was attending Anime Expo 1994 and on Sunday the last day of the convention, BANDAI/EMOTION, and BIG West Studios gave the American audience a first taste of Macross Plus!!!
    We were the first North American anime convention to see part 1 of this new anime before anybody else in the world!!! It was either a 35mm or 70mm film reel print, I am not sure what type of film reel it was. But it came directly from Tokyo on JAL Freight services and directly to the convention!!!
    < JAL - Japan Airlines Freight >
    Everyone from BANDAI and Big West were at the convention, they said this new MACROSS project was the most expensive OVA < Original Video Animation > ever produced in Japan!!!
    And yes, when they played this at the show, it was STANDING ROOM only!!! I was there, I have NEVER seen so many anime fans packed in a theatre room like sardines!!!
    Seeing this new MACROSS anime back in 1994 was absolutely MIND BLOWING!! After the show, there was a DEAFNING roar of cheers and applause from the crowd, and then we had the Q&A panels!!!
    They sure don't make anime conventions like that anymore, it was Anime Expo's "Golden Years"!!!
    Anime Expo 1994 was held in Anaheim, California at the Hilton and Marriott hotels. They did not use the Anaheim Convention Center as their main location until a few years later.

    • @fiveoctaves
      @fiveoctaves 6 месяцев назад +2

      Wow, I don't know how I missed that. I have my AX94 sweatshirt so I did attend (it was my last for several years) but I don't think I saw Plus until it was released on VHS. Damn.

    • @NelsonStJames
      @NelsonStJames 6 месяцев назад +3

      DUDE , I was at that con too!!! It was my first Anime Expo. It was wild. This was after the disappointment a lot of fans had with Marcoss II, but that first chapter of Macross Plus was gorgeous, it wasn’t even subtitled, but it was mesmerizing. I think it caught everybody by surprise. There was a dealer that had a copy on VHS playing on repeat at his table on one of those old VHS television combined units, and there was a crowd continually flocked around his table.

    • @Tekzeiro84.
      @Tekzeiro84. 6 месяцев назад +2

      The 80s and 90s was the golden age of anime. There are some honorable mentions going forward but those decades were the best of the best was there!

    • @danielwilliams7562
      @danielwilliams7562 3 месяца назад +1

      Wish I could have been packed in there too

  • @D3Vlicious
    @D3Vlicious 6 месяцев назад +13

    4:00 in Japanese society today (and for most of the lost decades), high school, especially junior high, is considered the last time most people are truly free. After that, people are either trying their best to get into college, or have joined the rat race of the Japanese work force, which can be pretty bad when it comes to work-life balance. Hence, high school has a special nostalgic place among Japanese viewers.

    • @TheManyVoicesVA
      @TheManyVoicesVA 6 месяцев назад +2

      This is why they have a problem with shutins and shit. People just shut down because they can't stand having such a terrible work-life balance.

  • @triggerfingerstudios
    @triggerfingerstudios 6 месяцев назад +16

    I saw this around 1995/96 when it first came to the US on VHS. It was pretty great, but really loved it when I saw it about 10/15 years later. It's got this moodiness to it that nothing replicates today.

    • @sidearmsalpha
      @sidearmsalpha 6 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah, having been a Robotech fan, I later found out how it was made with the first part being SDF Macross. The Macross name caught my eye at the comic shop I frequented in their VHS section. I bought the first two episodes and I was hooked! I got the next two and was just blown away! Still a fan of Macross to this day but I feel the stories peaked with Zero. I honestly wish Zero had been much longer to delve more into the origin of the Macross and why it ended up on Earth. I'm still confused about this part of the story in Zero.
      I seriously think SDF needs a modern retelling like they did with Space Cruiser Yamato.

  • @dystopia-usa
    @dystopia-usa 6 месяцев назад +8

    The various songs are still among my MP3 favorites.

    • @Fr_dG
      @Fr_dG 5 месяцев назад

      When i found the tracks on spotify, I was super excited!

  • @NaglfarCommando
    @NaglfarCommando 5 месяцев назад +8

    Still better than 90% of all TV/Movie Programming today.

  • @sharkicornking6360
    @sharkicornking6360 6 месяцев назад +11

    I remember watching this when it released and thinking, "No way people would pay money to listen to a computer program sing." Present day: I'm a Hatsune Miku fan

  • @otakubullfrog1665
    @otakubullfrog1665 6 месяцев назад +9

    I think that part of the problem with older characters drawn in a more realistic style is that they're harder to draw and animate, which translates to more expensive. I do often miss the OVA era when the booming home video market gave a lot of projects the budgets they needed to really shine.

  • @Gunsight-One
    @Gunsight-One 6 месяцев назад +19

    After the original Super Dimension Fortress Macross, Macross: Do You Remember Love, and Macross Frontier, Macross Plus sits quite nicely in the pantheon of the Macross franchise. Everything from the epic battles, intriguing characters, and sometimes trippy visuals, this anime really delivers on all fronts. Let's not forget besides Shoji Kawamori lending his incredible concepts and designs to this production, Cowboy Bebop's Shinichiro Watanabe also lent his considerable talent to Macross Plus. Add in the epic soundtrack by the legendary Yoko Kanno and you have all the ingredients for a truly timeless classic.

    • @hitachicordoba
      @hitachicordoba 6 месяцев назад +2

      I was lucky to pick up the OST CDs 1 and 2 from Book Off before they started overcharging for everything

    • @Gunsight-One
      @Gunsight-One 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@hitachicordoba Nice! I would have to say the Macross Plus soundtrack is a highlight of the entire Macross franchise. Sharon Apple songs are quite memorable and the orchestral soundtrack is quite epic.

    • @Ghostintheeshell
      @Ghostintheeshell 5 месяцев назад +2

      Luckily theyre on streaming services for me.

  • @Mak10z
    @Mak10z 6 месяцев назад +5

    Macross Plus is my all time favorite anime. from the visuals, to the ost. was a perfect storm of amazing.

  • @danielmartin7547
    @danielmartin7547 6 месяцев назад +4

    Old macross (pre delta) always hold up! Greetings from Argentina!

  • @chilimbwe
    @chilimbwe 2 месяца назад +1

    This is Top Gun: Macross Edition
    The TORTURE was the time between episodes. Between 2 and 3 ESPECIALLY between 3 and 4… damn.

  • @chilimbwe
    @chilimbwe 2 месяца назад +1

    This is the best anime of all time for me. The deep research that the team went to and the training was insane.
    Sharon Apple was the shit! I obsessed over the soundtrack. Damn.

  • @kenpomroy7052
    @kenpomroy7052 6 месяцев назад +14

    Brian Cranston voiced Isamu Dyson in the American dubb.

    • @AnimeMangaFiles
      @AnimeMangaFiles  6 месяцев назад +4

      Fun fact, David Hayter takes over for episode 4.

    • @MrJamesshipman
      @MrJamesshipman 6 месяцев назад +2

      And he is in the dub of the "wings of honneamise" / "the royal space force"

    • @MrJamesshipman
      @MrJamesshipman 6 месяцев назад +3

      Fun fact. No. They "lost" the master recording of episode 4 so it was redubed for the HD re-release. But Cranston is in all 4 on the Vhs and DVD.
      But like seriously just use the stereo recording not dub a new one for 5.1

    • @fiveoctaves
      @fiveoctaves 6 месяцев назад

      @@MrJamesshipman No. An international version was never made back in the nineties. The US dub was made from scratch using the CD soundtracks which did not include all of the music which is why some of the music is different. The official international version wasn't made until several years later when some of the voice actors were not available.

    • @fiveoctaves
      @fiveoctaves 6 месяцев назад

      @@AnimeMangaFiles Not until several years later after Cranston had done the episode 4 dub in the nineties.

  • @Armand-ue7om
    @Armand-ue7om 6 месяцев назад +7

    Blow up Earth? I always thought Isamu stole the Jet to teach the big wigs a lesson in replacing flesh and blood pilots with AI, planning to out fly and blow up that drone (Ghost). That's why that technician working on the YF 22 also "volunteered" himself to help him since the next generation Valkyrie was his baby and is being scrapped.

    • @SerianTsukino
      @SerianTsukino Месяц назад +1

      This! Isamu wanted to go ruin the debut of the Ghost X-9 to show that flesh and blood pilots are still relevant. Also, Yang was the designer and technician on the YF-19, Isamu's jet.

  • @sidearmsalpha
    @sidearmsalpha 6 месяцев назад +2

    I rank Macross Plus as my third favorite with DYRL and SDF as my top two. The music was so good I got the soundtracks and have all the mecha toys. I love how the love triangle was more subdued and it wasn't about a big war story too. I always wondered if Isamu and Myung got together though.
    One thing that did bug me is why it was so important for Guld to take out the Ghost at the cost of his own life? I guess the fact that Sharon took control of the Ghost proved that AI was too dangerous to trust so the UN Spacy gave up on using it for unmanned fighters. Still, it did prove how formidable a fighter with AI could be since even a skilled pilot like Guld literally gave his life to overtake it and collide with it to destroy it.

    • @legomech1946
      @legomech1946 6 месяцев назад +2

      If I remember correctly, there's a cut where he is alive post-credits, floating in space in his cockpit. I haven't seen it in decades but I was a huge fan and played the soundtrack constantly.

    • @sidearmsalpha
      @sidearmsalpha 6 месяцев назад +1

      Really? I think that was what was left of his lifeless body if I remember that scene correctly. I have the OVA DVDs and movie buried somewhere and now I'm itching to find them and rewatch it. What was cool about Macross Plus is that the fighter designs would survive and be used in Macross 7.

    • @rotyler2177
      @rotyler2177 6 месяцев назад +1

      Guld felt responsible for hurting Myung when they were teens. Guld shut it out with that medication he was taking and when Isamu turned up at Edwards base it brought it all back. Dude was madly in love with Myung and died for her, I believe. Guld also took on the role as 'Wingman' to Isamu even tho most of the movie he was quite the opposite which is what fighter pilots essentially are.

  • @largesmallworld
    @largesmallworld 6 месяцев назад +3

    Fans back then craved for anime but now it feels like anime is produced off of a production line to be consumed as content.
    I recall vividly having bought the Macross Plus CD soundtrack and was sitting in the bar lounge of a hotel. One of the bar staff saw the CD and grabbed it, inserted the disk into the CD player and pressed play. I was afraid of how the people in the lounge would react to the unusual anime music. But to my surprise not a single person reacted. The music sounded like any other lounge music.

  • @Khalirei
    @Khalirei 27 дней назад +1

    I think surprisingly as a kid, I actually did enjoy all the drama between the characters. This is one of many anime stories that taught me that the build up is what makes the action scenes worth it. The same goes for the music, often times I would show friends a song and they'd say "yeah it's okay", which is an expected response now to any piece of song that has no context. Once they saw the movie or game, they'd simply walk it back and say "omg I love this song now". This is the same for the dialogue in these stories, if you don't understand the drama, then the action scenes won't hit as hard as they are meant to.
    Probably the most influential reason that made me actually pay attention to the story was the absolutely insane range of tracks that Yoko Kanno created for this movie. The genres and themes are all over the place, but they go along perfectly with the mood of each scene and that's just the perfect unison between what is being shown and what is being heard. I think that Macross Plus is one of those few exceptions where even if you didn't understand a single word of the movie, you would simply feel it and fill in the blanks thanks to the music and performance of the actors.

    • @Ragitsu
      @Ragitsu 26 дней назад

      Great pacing, yes. I do prefer the full four episodes over the film.

  • @GordonGordon
    @GordonGordon 6 месяцев назад +3

    I really like your unpretentious style. No exaggerations, no ostentatious RUclips overbearing energy. I enjoyed your very natural discussion on the subject while drawing in personal experience

  • @thornprime
    @thornprime 6 месяцев назад +3

    Just discovered your channel, thanks for making this video. Macross Plus is one of my favorite anime, I miss anime from that time, 80-90's. I kind of feel modern anime lacks what came during that time.

  • @nightlam3419
    @nightlam3419 6 месяцев назад +2

    Man this brought back memories. Anime of the 80s/90s had so much craftsmanship, style and sheer cool factor. I remember renting this on vhs and was so impressed with expanding the world building of Macross. Robotech was one of my earliest memories of cartoons that influenced me into becoming an animator. Ninja Scroll, Akira, Cowboy Bebop and Berserk solidified it for me.

  • @gshorter
    @gshorter 6 месяцев назад +2

    Interesting enough I actually watched this yesterday. I lucked up and bought the DVD’s when they came out so yeah watched it for the first time in over 20 years and still love it. Glad I was able to see this from the lens of a 40+ year old.

  • @iangarrett3308
    @iangarrett3308 6 месяцев назад +6

    Mr. Shoji Kawamori is the GOD of mecha!!!! I remember his works from MACROSS 1982, Crusher Joe 1983, and MACROSS 1984, Do You Remember Love? movie, and various Mobilesuit Gundam animes!!!
    I remember him since the 1980's, he is an absolute LEGEND!!!

    • @D3Vlicious
      @D3Vlicious 6 месяцев назад +1

      Also to note, Kawamori graduated with a degree in aeronautical engineering, but ended up working in anime since there was little demand for aeronautical engineers in Japan.

  • @Shawn-bl5ok
    @Shawn-bl5ok 6 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you for your service
    I am a dad of a 16 yr old
    And did spec ops.
    I dig your video.
    Im a child of Robotech

    • @AnimeMangaFiles
      @AnimeMangaFiles  6 месяцев назад +1

      It was my pleasure... thank you for your service as well brother!

  • @timgerritsen6654
    @timgerritsen6654 2 месяца назад

    My absolute favorite Macross ever. Still had song at it's core, but in a unique and fresh way and with a story that was short, deep, and meaningful. Oh, and the mech action was amazing.

  • @sarahjames6257
    @sarahjames6257 6 месяцев назад +3

    Yes, Plus still holds up after decades. In fact this classic surpasses most of the trash being push out in today's world. Macross is timeless. Yo, give Macross II some love, it may not be the greatest but there things out there that suck more.

  • @yukin1990
    @yukin1990 6 месяцев назад +1

    It still hold up, And in Macross Frontier RVF-25 with three AI-Control Ghost plane.....beside Remember AI-Control F-16 Viper compare Macross Plus X-9 Ghost...and The fight with YF-19 vs YF-21 is epic there......

  • @jmbickham
    @jmbickham 6 месяцев назад +1

    Macross Plus… I loved it at the time and bought the VHS as each was released… end of high school/beginning of college. Even had a copy of the soundtrack. Now looking back at it and having watched Macross Zero, Macross 7, Macross Fontier and Macross Delta… I think that it and Macross Zero bare some similar elements with them being based on a planet rather than on a spaceship. Both deal with some complex human interrelationship issues. This is neither good nor bad, but… it makes for a slower, heavier story.
    Personally I found them both to get bogged down by this story as opposed to Macross Frontier. Frankly with hard hitttin songs by May’n and Megumi Nakajima, a solid story line.. returning to space… it stands as the pinnacle of Macross followed by Macross DYRL…

  • @pghurd3340
    @pghurd3340 6 месяцев назад +1

    Yes. It still holds up.

  • @SerfsUp1848
    @SerfsUp1848 5 месяцев назад +1

    I'm pretty sure it's exactly perfectly of its time, which is great.

  • @sara.cbc92
    @sara.cbc92 28 дней назад

    Definitely way ahead of it's time, drone technology, advanced AI. The movie removed some scenes eg the first battle scene. But added an extended cut of Guld vs Ghost X9.

  • @Zaphael
    @Zaphael 6 месяцев назад

    I remember watching the OVAs on tape as they dropped here in the states. I had been a fan of Robotech and was excited to see they had made a sequel of the original japanese series. The thing that grabbed me right away was the music. Voices is such a beautiful song and such an amazing way to start things off. I had the name Yoko Kanno burned into my mind after that and immediately picked up anything else she had a part in.

  • @Fr_dG
    @Fr_dG 5 месяцев назад +1

    Ill rewatch it again, thank you.

  • @Wardemonxi
    @Wardemonxi 4 месяца назад +1

    There must be a lot of differences in the movie version versus the ova's. I watched the OVA's over and over and over in my younger days as a kid. The ending described (15:32) isn't ringing a bell here. I need to go compare the two one day.

  • @MrJamesshipman
    @MrJamesshipman 6 месяцев назад +1

    This is still my favorite of the macross series.
    Now i am a subtitle "purist" but the dub on this is one of the best!! I believe that the dub was so popular that it was re-released in Japan as the "international edition" English dub with Japanese subtitles.

  • @justcallmesando
    @justcallmesando 3 месяца назад

    The fact that it openly talked about IA in 1995 and it´s effect on humans is just impressive.

  • @nexusyang4832
    @nexusyang4832 6 месяцев назад

    1:49 - my friends and i watched the fansubs of this when it came out and IT WAS AWESOME!!!!!!!! :-) :-) :-) Those were the days when we traded VHS/SVHS tapes.... good times.

  • @Exaris79
    @Exaris79 6 месяцев назад

    There's so many easter eggs from the TopGun:Maverick movie in comparison to this anime. Actually saw this as a LaserDisc format which had a much better detail in it. Loved the statement at the end dedicating the anime to all pioneers. Hoping that Japan will finalize the design of their next 6th generation fighter jet and choose to mass produce it based on the YF-23's design.

  • @XX-sp3tt
    @XX-sp3tt 6 месяцев назад +3

    "Blows up Earth" did you fall asleep before the ending of the anime?
    And him going to jail forever would just make the ensuing scandal even worse.

  • @Maruwasa
    @Maruwasa 6 месяцев назад +2

    😂😂 it is amazing how given your background you are doing this - truth is stranger than fiction BUT Macross was one of my favorite too - incredible world and machines

  • @louismendoza-y9l
    @louismendoza-y9l Месяц назад

    I really liked this one, the OVA, I didn't see the movie, and I hope to see it again. Did you know that a version of the X-9 Ghost is in the original Macross/Robotech, blink and you will miss it. As for Macross Plus I liked how the story slowly open over OVA and we get the surprise be for the fight with the AI, what a twist.

  • @IRMentat
    @IRMentat 6 месяцев назад +3

    Was what got me into macross which got me into robotech which got me into the novelisations.
    The books sell the story best.
    The dubs are a mess but get a point across.
    The og/subs are great but incoherent.
    The sequels vary (frontier my fave for soundtrack and no nonsense best-couple)
    But in the end it’s plus I can play then replay over and over, both the movie and subs only OVA versions.

    • @baahcusegamer4530
      @baahcusegamer4530 6 месяцев назад +1

      The Robotech saga books inspired me to become an author. Oh the memories.

  • @sara.cbc92
    @sara.cbc92 28 дней назад

    Your channel is highly underrated.

  • @localdskchk8318
    @localdskchk8318 6 месяцев назад

    I'd bought this at one of those store that are kinda tucked away in a strip mall that was all about anime when I had started college. I thought I had hit the jack pot on something a simple as a view on people that grew up with each other and came back to find the relationship that they had "lost" due to each other chasing their dreams. The music was also something that popped out at me when first time viewing and gave me a urge to re-watch it after a few days. This movie and Platlabor were some of my fav movies beyond Ghost in the Shell and Ninja Scroll that I had as VHS 's in my slowly growing collection.

  • @chrissumner6046
    @chrissumner6046 11 дней назад

    Loved this, I've still got the vhs tapes ❤

  • @MarkGrob
    @MarkGrob 6 месяцев назад

    Favorite Macross episodic video, very relevant topics

  • @Deeperintotheskin
    @Deeperintotheskin 5 месяцев назад +1

    The recreated lines were HORRIBLE. Specifically the part where Gould or however his name is spelled and Isamu make up after the fight. When I saw the original VHS version I laughed so hard after he said "Man, theres just no PLEASING you!" I started laughing with them so hard but when you hear the redid version it just feels forced and stale. I love your take on this entire movie. I had just got done watching it again for the hundredth time in forever im only 34 but these types of animes are so nostalgic to me. Take a sub and keep up the amazing work.

  • @knghtbrd
    @knghtbrd 6 месяцев назад +2

    I revisit this every few years or so. What did I see? Mostly the psychological aspects, which I didn't really understand until my mid-20s half a decade later. I compare some of the belief-suspension parts of Macross Plus with the similar parts of the original Top Gun. I did not see the newer movie because of Tom Cruise's staunch defense of his sex-abusing reall estate scam cult.
    I only bring it up because the Navy played a big part of making the movie and getting many key details right. And while I don't have firsthand knowledge (for vision alone I'm so 4F that I'm 5F!) having learned where that movie departs from reality, I'm certain that Macross Plus is the more "accurate" depiction. Considering when it was made, that's saying something "for a cartoon".
    I do miss older anime protagonists.

    • @JustinStrife
      @JustinStrife 6 месяцев назад

      The new Topgun was amazing. I saw it 3 times in theaters. The original was my favorite movie of all time(I was 6 when it came out, my dad was a Navy pilot for 20 years, and my grandfather was a navy fighter pilot in ww2 so I have lived and breathed Naval Aviation for my 44 years of existence).
      You do yourself a disservice in not seeing it.

  • @Harkness78
    @Harkness78 6 месяцев назад +1

    Criminal for saying "Macross Plusd is not perfect"!

  • @waitandhope
    @waitandhope 4 месяца назад

    This is the greatest anime mini series ever made

  • @TheV8maverick
    @TheV8maverick 6 месяцев назад

    Love Macross Plus, big fan of the franchise and overall good video. That being said I do have to take issue with the notion that anime stopped being made that features adult characters. They're definitely still there even if the majority of shows do tend to have younger protagonists (but if you where to actually look through the entire catalog of anime made in the 90s you would find that even then the majority of protagonists are not adults). Just doing a quick search of shows airing since December of 2023 until now I was able to find 13 new anime starring adult characters and I wouldn't be surprised if I was missing some.

  • @section9809
    @section9809 6 месяцев назад

    Macross Plus is one of my favourite movies, full stop.

  • @TheLotusEater725
    @TheLotusEater725 6 месяцев назад

    I am genuinely looking forward to watching this channel grow.

  • @nikknackmickattack320
    @nikknackmickattack320 3 месяца назад

    Macross Plus is probably one of the ten best animes.

  • @BlitzvogelMobius
    @BlitzvogelMobius 6 месяцев назад +2

    Favorite anime to this day. As I’ve gotten older the characters have only become more interesting and relatable. Makes for a good “red pill” analysis. Isamu, the lives by his rules rogue who is quietly adored by Myung, Guld the honorable white knight who has a thing for an unreciprocating Myung and of course Myung the aging, neurotic female who’s issues are manifested into a delicate emotionally unstable AI. Fun times.

    • @AnimeMangaFiles
      @AnimeMangaFiles  6 месяцев назад

      Glad you like it love your perspective thanks 🙏 for watching.

  • @pdahandyman
    @pdahandyman 6 месяцев назад

    Many years ago I watched an anime film that I'm quite sure was a Macross where there's a scene involving the highly detailed process of someone peeling the cellophane from a pack of Marlboro's. I've tried to find it, but have so far failed. This will also be the first time I've asked for help, since it never really rose to the level of "intense need". I've seen this OVA, though, a year or two ago while looking for that film, and was reminded by you video. TIA :)

  • @M_Gargantua
    @M_Gargantua 6 месяцев назад

    Always one of my favorites, since it was one of the first anime VHS's I ever watched and I'm glad it was such a great series.

    • @M_Gargantua
      @M_Gargantua 6 месяцев назад

      But it seems like through the middle section the audio and video edits got out of sync by like 30s? the 7m mark stands out, but then its back to what i'd expect to by 11:30

    • @M_Gargantua
      @M_Gargantua 6 месяцев назад

      Gunbuster and Diebuster seem like another one along these lines

  • @floydjohnson7888
    @floydjohnson7888 6 месяцев назад

    I had the aerial rivalry figured as a love letter to the makers of "Top Gun"

  • @nooneelsehasthisuser
    @nooneelsehasthisuser 3 месяца назад

    To me, this movie is timeless…peak animation from Japan

  • @sevensblack
    @sevensblack 6 месяцев назад +1

    Hey! This was great. You and I are of the same generation and I was nodding along with all of your observations. Subscribing now!

  • @chromacypher8409
    @chromacypher8409 6 месяцев назад

    This show had such a different feel to it, compared to the Robotech storyline, art, and music. I used to rewatch this at least once a month.

  • @fiveoctaves
    @fiveoctaves 6 месяцев назад

    Hrm...when I watched the bluray, I thought it was gorgeous and absolutely became the version I've watched since. I've no idea what "style choices and lines get recreated" there are. Maybe it's because I watched it often on laser disc but I thought it was just a digital transfer of the tapes.
    I don't think Isamu's "believing" in Myung is helpful. Like Myung said, Guld and Isamu are living their dreams and don't actually know what she's gone through. Not everyone can become what they want to be through hard work or just by believing in themselves.

  • @tohpingtiang4878
    @tohpingtiang4878 6 месяцев назад +1

    And then they turn everything into a weapon in the future.

  • @Josh_Quillan
    @Josh_Quillan 6 месяцев назад +1

    Not really sure how exactly Macross Plus was ahead of its time. It was simply a great bit of action sci-fi storytelling - that isn't especially forward thinking. The way it wraps the external event-driven story with the internal and interpersonal conflicts of its three central characters is very skilful, and its discussion of repression versus unguarded candidness is really an important one that remains relevant in the modern day.
    Where I think it falls down is with Myung's relationship with Guld. [SPOILERS] Why did she not do anything about his attack on her at the time, and why does she not at the very least confront him and accuse him when they meet again, or just run the hell away from a guy who sexually assaulted her? This aspect of the story is critical overall but relies on her unaccountable silence and tolerance of him. It's clear that it was an impulsive act lacking malice, but not only acting as if nothing happened but, worse, letting Guld in his repressive delusion blame Isamu for attacking her is really destructive, toxic behaviour. It shows us the dangers of repression, true, but it does so by having its characters make crazy decisions. Isamu is a bit of a fool, but of the three his behaviour is the least harmful.

    • @muhammadwibisonojanuar7793
      @muhammadwibisonojanuar7793 6 месяцев назад +1

      The keys to being ahead of its time are the technology of artificial intelligence and holo-artist

    • @Josh_Quillan
      @Josh_Quillan 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@muhammadwibisonojanuar7793 no, that's always been pretty standard subject matter for sci-fi. Macross Plus focused on it more than I've seen before that time but that's not what being 'ahead of your time' means.

    • @fiveoctaves
      @fiveoctaves 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@muhammadwibisonojanuar7793 Those are at minimum decades old ideas.

  • @liobundury
    @liobundury 5 месяцев назад

    What's your media studio going to be about!? I hope you create some Macross style anime!

  • @mattjackson382
    @mattjackson382 6 месяцев назад

    Yep, time to dust off the old collection and watch the OVAs again

  • @jonathanblair9731
    @jonathanblair9731 3 месяца назад

    Thank God, you use the term Protoculture correctly.

  • @KingUltraMayne
    @KingUltraMayne 6 месяцев назад

    Since you mentioned it...I think you have to do a Macross 2 video. It's only right. 🤷🏾‍♂️😊

  • @JoseMoreira-vo8cu
    @JoseMoreira-vo8cu 6 месяцев назад

    HECK YEAH IT HOLDS UP! The English dub, Brian Cranston....YEAH!

  • @simonanderson5241
    @simonanderson5241 6 месяцев назад

    I did some work on AI around 6 years after this movie was released, and back then it was tedious and slow, but due to some smart people - we benefited from some really good optimizations, but it was so far of what we know today that everything AI in movies seemed fantasy.

  • @Cwomack07
    @Cwomack07 6 месяцев назад

    Just discovered your channel with this video. Really enjoyed it and will be jumping on board to see where you take it. Also your background and opinions at least to me are a very important and slightly different take than your standard civi weeb 😂 a
    My experience with Macross Plus was getting to see the OVA series with Bryan Cranston voiced isamu for the first 3 episodes. Anyways tons of nostalgia for this series as it was my introduction into Macross.
    As for the love triangle thing even over 20 years later from first seeing it I’m Still like omg I can’t relate to the mental relationship gymnastics they play here.

  • @silvervibranium2832
    @silvervibranium2832 6 месяцев назад

    Hey dude! really enjoyed this. I really love most anything Macross. I would add a few points tho. First, Harmony Gold has been fighting against Macross's distribution in the west. But But Big West beat HG in a court ruling. (FINALLY). And HG had to allow BW to show Macross sequels, like Macross Plus. So soon EVERY Macross show besides the original will be on Disney Plus soon. (if it hasn't already)! I think its great this, and other Macross will finally be available here!
    I also would say Isamu's plane is more of a X-29 inspiration. Love the 29 and the 23. But also the F14 which the original Macross planes were based on.
    M-Plus is very much a Shoji Kawamori product. He's the planes and mech guy behind Macross now. But I'm not a fan of the female faces. I really love when Haruhiko Mikimoto designs them. Wish M-plus had used him. If there was ever a scene in the original Macross where you thought the characters looked really good, that was probably a Mikimoto drawing.
    There's alot of Top Gun in M-Plus too. Which appeals alot to me. I grew up a block from Miramar Road when Top Gun came out. Couldn't help but love all that. Had 14s and A4s constantly over my head. lol. Only place to eat for MILES was in view of Miramar's airstrip. Those were fun days. =]
    BTW, thank you for your service. Its very appreciated.

    • @lorcannagle
      @lorcannagle 6 месяцев назад +1

      The legal stuff is a tangled web that was slowly unravelled. The root cause is that Big West needed a production partner to complete the original show, and they brought on Tatsunoko. Part of the agreement was that Tatsunoko would get global distribution rights, which they in turn granted to Harmony Gold alongside a bunch of other shows, notably Southern Cross and MOSPEDA, and would go on to be localised as Robotech.
      In the 90s, Harmony Gold largely ignored their media arm. They were getting license fees from various comics publishers for tie-ins based on Robotech and a few other shows but they weren't really paying attention as anime started to explode and as such didn't assert any legal rights when Macross II and Macross Plus got western releases. At this point they realised they had a larger revenue stream they could tap and began throwing their weight around, claiming that their agreement with Tatsunoko gave them rights to any Macross-related production, not just the original series. They began muscling in on merch - began threatening American shops who were importing Macross toys from Japan, this was around the time they went after BattleTech for using Macross art, and in the early 2000s they set up Robotech.com and started selling their own merch and licensed toys.
      In Japan there was a legal battle around the rights to Macross as well - Tatsunoko claimed they owned all of Macross and not just the productions they were involved in, which eventually was resolved in Big West's favour in 2003. Harmony Gold claimed this didn't change the license they had with Tatsunoko and nobody was willing to pay to challenge this claim in court. The status quo persisted until 2021 when some level of agreement was reached between the three parties. Presently Harmony Gold only has the rights to the original show and Do You Remember Love and still viciously guard those rights. Everything else has just been licensed to Disney for streaming and merchandie and toys for Zero, Plus, Frontier and Delta are generally available for order in comic shops if they don't outright stock them

  • @nightlydata2181
    @nightlydata2181 7 месяцев назад +1

    I remember seein the movie version of the OVA series & I really liked it tho It's been a min so while I remember wut happened I really need to rewatch it to put my own take. It's also my intro to macross as a whole. I like hearin wut parts bout this seemed more realistic to u. As for the "turn off ur brain anime bs" I'd say there's a decent chance it's jus dramatism some JP concept that's not known well in the west like a shinto or buddhist thing but I've literally never bothered to research so idk lol

    • @Teampegleg
      @Teampegleg 6 месяцев назад

      I feel that the movie is the better of the two. The OVA just feels a bit poorly paced at times.

  • @MurderMostFowl
    @MurderMostFowl 6 месяцев назад

    Macross plus is also at the pinnacle time of hand animated series. The quality of Macross Plus vs something later like 7 or Frontier is just no contest. ( and frankly Frontier in some episodes just looks like garbage in comparison)

  • @maerlink3109
    @maerlink3109 6 месяцев назад +1

    The Japanese cut was overall better, but I did like us add-ons for the ova. Gulds death the Japanese cut was better.

    • @xretroman
      @xretroman 7 дней назад

      Let’s call it the movie version, since the ova series was also Japanese and English. The mo use version was made a year or 2 after the series and added those extra scenes and cut out a lot of other scenes. It’s a shame they didn’t do an English dub if the movie version.

  • @theouterarrowhead
    @theouterarrowhead Месяц назад

    You keep mentioning character as if they are on screen right at that moment, and they aren't. I would watch that in the future videos.
    Thanks, always willing to listen to other people talk about Macross.

  • @muhammadwibisonojanuar7793
    @muhammadwibisonojanuar7793 6 месяцев назад

    The most important possible future technology is the virtual idol like Hatsune Miku and most VTubers

  • @foxdavion6865
    @foxdavion6865 6 месяцев назад

    90% of Mecha - about teenagers. 10% of Mecha about adults, same now as then, but for two completely different reasons. Now days, Same 10% you have to wait a decade for each time it is made and usually involves older versions of characters who were kids in a previous series from a decade prior. Basically, to get a mature anime, you have to prey that one of the OG fans grew up to take charge of making a mature sequel. Because unfortunately most animators and manga artists are manchildren who never got to enjoy their teens, so project their fantasy of reliving their life into a story; Which in my opinion just shows the tragic absolute state of the workaholic culture of Japan. Because compare this before the economic bubble pop, 80s and 90s anime was all about either escapism or intentionally made to sell to teenagers.
    However back when it was made was a completely different landscape for anime; So, yeah Macross Plus is a rare example comparatively, but in it's hey day, it was rare not because of the above reasons, but because at the time studios only greenlit mecha for kids because they survived on the money they got from those who made money from toys.

  • @nikknackmickattack320
    @nikknackmickattack320 3 месяца назад

    Isamu's official age is 24 so you're good.

  • @christopherfoley8322
    @christopherfoley8322 6 месяцев назад

    the American dub had Breaking Bad star Bryan Cranston

  • @kossemoore3342
    @kossemoore3342 6 месяцев назад +1

    This is great clvideo macross plus is an absolute masterpiece. To answer your question about why anime skews young. Its cultural. For the japanese high school is something all japanese experience. Once you fo beyond that relatability lessens because many people go down many different career paths. But th number one reason its always high school is because for many japanese high school os that last time you are considered free. For many japanese, adult life is about working. Youre expected to get a salarybjob and five yourself to career. In turn life after highschool is seen as terrible and many japanese see highschool as the golden years, where things were more bright in your life. This was beat answered vy the director of the persona series. He lretty much explained this heing the reason why persona is always about highschool students.

    • @AnimeMangaFiles
      @AnimeMangaFiles  6 месяцев назад

      This is a great explanation, thank you for the insight.

  • @attackofthecopyrightbots
    @attackofthecopyrightbots 3 месяца назад

    sharon miku apple

  • @GUILDAMESH
    @GUILDAMESH 6 месяцев назад

    I am an artist with an interest in animation in particular, I am curious about your Media studio

  • @johnnyscifi
    @johnnyscifi 6 месяцев назад

    Im really fond of this movie!!

  • @volts7230
    @volts7230 2 месяца назад

    I saw macross plus on vhs it awas a bootleg due to thr Harmony Gold vs BigWest Copyright issue the main characters then and in the other series there are mature adults and people moving on to become adults. But in these scheme of things plus is nice since it about planes and dealing with stuff life places on one.

  • @cpuuk
    @cpuuk 6 месяцев назад

    Sharon is all about feelings, not intelligence.

  • @yvesfree-assangescherdin6138
    @yvesfree-assangescherdin6138 6 месяцев назад

    vhs ftw

  • @Maxhunter12
    @Maxhunter12 6 месяцев назад

    ESSAYONS

  • @jace3852
    @jace3852 2 месяца назад

    YF-19 = Sukhoi Su-47

  • @josevanloo3442
    @josevanloo3442 4 месяца назад

    5:45 too much bullshit soldier boy ….bla bla bla

    • @AnimeMangaFiles
      @AnimeMangaFiles  4 месяца назад +2

      Are you OK.? Take a break.

    • @josevanloo3442
      @josevanloo3442 4 месяца назад

      @@AnimeMangaFiles take a long hike soldier girl

  • @michaelumali8363
    @michaelumali8363 6 месяцев назад

    its funny the title ahead of its time when its all about warning or predicting the future

  • @nghia59
    @nghia59 6 месяцев назад +3

    My favorite MACROSS.

  • @chilimbwe
    @chilimbwe 2 месяца назад

    This is Top Gun: Macross Edition
    The TORTURE was the time between episodes. Between 2 and 3 ESPECIALLY between 3 and 4… damn.