Jaghatai is a loyal Primarch but he detests the Emperor for being a tyrant and forcing others to obey him with little to no wiggle room. He was also one of the only Primarchs to know of chaos and demons before the Horus Heresy which caused a lot of tension due to the emperor declaring that no gods existed.
The emperor used the primarchs as tools, foresaw and anticipated the horus heresy and he would have culled his remaining messed up sons and their legions like he did with the thunder warriors yet he built primarch size retirement homes under the palace on terra for himself and his sons who could rehabilitate after the crusade..so yeah.. two sides of a coin
Yeah and as far as son and dad relationships lol these are weapons and tools he made it’s not like they are kids born from big E and a lady he had to be colder because it’s more like science experiments than kids but that’s what makes them love the good ones even more lmao but also why he big mad at the ones who can’t get over their issues shit they are demigods basically you got infinite life to get better I guess
Yea, he has 20 kids. It doesn't mean he couldn't have tried to spend time with some of them. They may be demigods and warriors, but they're still human. To deny the basics of what a human needs is basically depraving them of what it means to be human. Just food for thought.
that's where bid E was wrong, he didn't see them as human not to mention his sons. it's the "Imperial truth", in truth, they are no more than a blood drop he put in a mix soup of DNA, they are weapons, tools to him. the irony is when big E start to show some true "care", it's where his downfall began, when he knew about Logar and his cult, he want to bring the space wolves to wipe out the word bearer, but he rethink and bring the Ultramarines
You're kind of assuming the Emperor is a good person. I think Guilliman said it the best when a preacher asked if he cares about us. Guilliman said he cares about humanity. But also to be fair he's what? 63,000 years old or something like that? He doesn't think normal.
The primarchs do have a mother her name is erda she is the same age as the emperor born in the same area they were childhood friends. She was also a psyker and a perpetual like the emperor is. The emperor had a ton of other perpetuals with him in the end only erda and malcador were the last ones to stay with the emperor until the primarchs were born Erda left leaving only malcador left.
15:33 - That is actually how he is, lol. He wanted an empire that's loyal to him, and he wanted it yesterday, so he didn't actually care how the primarchs did it as long as they did it. Only deal-breaker being Lorgar who was making people worship Emps as a god, which he didn't like at all. And even then he only stepped up when what Lorgar was doing was taking too long. Whenever a problem with the primarchs popped up he also had this attitude of "Whatever - I'm THE Emperor. I know better, and I can deal with any problem." He is a complicated dude, and his sons are also all complicated. He did regret a lot of what he did and didn't do, but it was too late by that point. For example: Mortarion in the current setting is a hateful demon of plague and death, and Emperor still told him that there is a chance to save him and bring him back, so he gotta care at least a little.
You should totally check out the Lamenters chapter if you haven’t already. I think you’d like them. Just as nice as the salamanders but with tons of tragedy and cost to themselves in their missions to protect.
None of the Primarch will rule humans after the crusade. It'll be Malcador and the highlords, the emperor and his sons will just go back hiding and guiding humanity in shadow as he has done many time in the past. This is one of the reason the Heresy happened. Horus wanted to leave a legacy, but he saw he'll have none
Also since it is practically confirmed that the primarch are warp minor deities ( probably born from human worship during the age of strife ) , the emperor probably wanted them to take over a part of the warp to safeguard the souls of humans once they died and make sure they won’t be devoured by chaos entities or warp predators .
I wonder if indy will watch lutein's 10 worst jobs to have in the imperium of man video, and also if he will watch major overkills every guardsman regiment video, namely part 1. I would love to see him learn more about the death korps of krieg.
Been watching your vids for a while bro! keep it up since I see you improving the quality of your contents as you progress! My fave Primarch is the Lion, He is the probably the most relatable Primarch for me, he has some form of ego which led him to somewhat covet the title of Warmaster from Horus during the earlier years and was really steadfast with his personal goals. He struggles to open up with the people closest to him (like men do), which lead for the people closest to him to misunderstand him, which resulted to them assuming that he was an unappreciative and uncaring Primarch (when all he did was just sulk) making them betray him. After he woke up, he realized his mistakes acknowledging how he had failed his father, his brothers (due to a lack of communication with Luther which frustrated him enough to lead him to chaos) and having his Legion brandished as traitors even if they are not. Accepting this, he then decided to go on a mission to gather each one of his Dark Templar sons, while attempting to reconnect and be vocal with them this time (although he's still a solitary freak), because that's the last thing he wanted to fail as well. He is moving slowly, attempting to redeem their reputation and removing their brandish of being a traitor legion. If you have the time and patience, I HIGHLY suggest listening to this guy so you can be much more in depth with the characters in 40k. The dubs are also very engaging and well made, so please bro give this guy a chance! Here's the detailed Character story for The Lion so please bro do me a solid and give it a chance. I will continue to watch and support you and your content regardless! Loyalty is it's own reward! Channel name: The Amber King Lion El Jonson - Complete Story of the 1st Primarch - Voice Acted 40k Lore ruclips.net/video/qruJ_Ubbe0I/видео.html&ab_channel=TheAmberKing
If you want more context for Angron, Perturabo and Lorgar, you should check out "The Mistakes of The Emperor" series. Figure out why a man like the Emperor lost control.
I hate to be THAT guy, but the fact remains that if the primarchs were never scattered across the galaxy, they wouldn't have the personality quirks that would've led to them being so different from the Emperor's design. Had they been raised on Terra, it would've been in line with the emperor's vision for them. For instance: Angron would never have the butcher's nails, Perturabo would've been raised alongside Rogal Dorn, and Vulkan would never have developed his more extreme xenophobia and extreme empathy for humans.
Jesus, you watch a lot of Majorkill videos. I’ve got nothing against him, but………god, his voice is so annoying. I don’t know how other people can stand it.
Jaghatai is a loyal Primarch but he detests the Emperor for being a tyrant and forcing others to obey him with little to no wiggle room. He was also one of the only Primarchs to know of chaos and demons before the Horus Heresy which caused a lot of tension due to the emperor declaring that no gods existed.
Bro, you NEED to watch Mayorkill's video called "I was wrong about Angron" to really understand why Angron sucked so much, and why it's pretty tragic.
The emperor used the primarchs as tools, foresaw and anticipated the horus heresy and he would have culled his remaining messed up sons and their legions like he did with the thunder warriors yet he built primarch size retirement homes under the palace on terra for himself and his sons who could rehabilitate after the crusade..so yeah.. two sides of a coin
Before I start the video it’s Vulcan and sanguinius and Horus
Yeah and as far as son and dad relationships lol these are weapons and tools he made it’s not like they are kids born from big E and a lady he had to be colder because it’s more like science experiments than kids but that’s what makes them love the good ones even more lmao but also why he big mad at the ones who can’t get over their issues shit they are demigods basically you got infinite life to get better I guess
Also the emperor was born in like 8000 BC you think dads were chill then lmao
Yea, he has 20 kids. It doesn't mean he couldn't have tried to spend time with some of them. They may be demigods and warriors, but they're still human. To deny the basics of what a human needs is basically depraving them of what it means to be human. Just food for thought.
that's where bid E was wrong, he didn't see them as human not to mention his sons. it's the "Imperial truth", in truth, they are no more than a blood drop he put in a mix soup of DNA, they are weapons, tools to him.
the irony is when big E start to show some true "care", it's where his downfall began, when he knew about Logar and his cult, he want to bring the space wolves to wipe out the word bearer, but he rethink and bring the Ultramarines
You're kind of assuming the Emperor is a good person. I think Guilliman said it the best when a preacher asked if he cares about us. Guilliman said he cares about humanity.
But also to be fair he's what? 63,000 years old or something like that? He doesn't think normal.
the emperor kinda have another kids they are called the Sensei but I don't really know how they work or their origin(Or even if they are cannon tbh)
Majorkill has a vid about them. The Emperor had too much fun being a sexy demigod in his early centuries😅. Too many fatherless children
Hahaha. How excited you suddenly got. And then tried to play it off.
The primarchs do have a mother her name is erda she is the same age as the emperor born in the same area they were childhood friends. She was also a psyker and a perpetual like the emperor is. The emperor had a ton of other perpetuals with him in the end only erda and malcador were the last ones to stay with the emperor until the primarchs were born
Erda left leaving only malcador left.
Currently paused at 2:32 I suspect his top 6 in no particular order are Lion, Fulgrim, Horus, Sanguinius, Guilliman, and Vulkan.
Haven't watched the video yet, but just going off what I know from the lore I'm going to say 1.Sanguinius 2.Horus 3.Vulkan
You should watch Which Primarch unlocked there Unique Power by Majorkill
15:33 - That is actually how he is, lol. He wanted an empire that's loyal to him, and he wanted it yesterday, so he didn't actually care how the primarchs did it as long as they did it. Only deal-breaker being Lorgar who was making people worship Emps as a god, which he didn't like at all. And even then he only stepped up when what Lorgar was doing was taking too long. Whenever a problem with the primarchs popped up he also had this attitude of "Whatever - I'm THE Emperor. I know better, and I can deal with any problem."
He is a complicated dude, and his sons are also all complicated. He did regret a lot of what he did and didn't do, but it was too late by that point. For example: Mortarion in the current setting is a hateful demon of plague and death, and Emperor still told him that there is a chance to save him and bring him back, so he gotta care at least a little.
I don't know why you haven't known about Trayzn the Infinite, he's the funniest character ever.
You should totally check out the Lamenters chapter if you haven’t already. I think you’d like them. Just as nice as the salamanders but with tons of tragedy and cost to themselves in their missions to protect.
21:55 the Emperor wanted Humans not Demigods to rule, does this mean Vulkan was likely the heir of the Imperium (if not Sanguinius or the Lion)?
None of the Primarch will rule humans after the crusade. It'll be Malcador and the highlords, the emperor and his sons will just go back hiding and guiding humanity in shadow as he has done many time in the past. This is one of the reason the Heresy happened. Horus wanted to leave a legacy, but he saw he'll have none
@@Subject35th that’s a reasonable decision, I trust Malcador.
Also since it is practically confirmed that the primarch are warp minor deities ( probably born from human worship during the age of strife ) , the emperor probably wanted them to take over a part of the warp to safeguard the souls of humans once they died and make sure they won’t be devoured by chaos entities or warp predators .
I wonder if indy will watch lutein's 10 worst jobs to have in the imperium of man video, and also if he will watch major overkills every guardsman regiment video, namely part 1. I would love to see him learn more about the death korps of krieg.
Been watching your vids for a while bro! keep it up since I see you improving the quality of your contents as you progress! My fave Primarch is the Lion, He is the probably the most relatable Primarch for me, he has some form of ego which led him to somewhat covet the title of Warmaster from Horus during the earlier years and was really steadfast with his personal goals. He struggles to open up with the people closest to him (like men do), which lead for the people closest to him to misunderstand him, which resulted to them assuming that he was an unappreciative and uncaring Primarch (when all he did was just sulk) making them betray him. After he woke up, he realized his mistakes acknowledging how he had failed his father, his brothers (due to a lack of communication with Luther which frustrated him enough to lead him to chaos) and having his Legion brandished as traitors even if they are not. Accepting this, he then decided to go on a mission to gather each one of his Dark Templar sons, while attempting to reconnect and be vocal with them this time (although he's still a solitary freak), because that's the last thing he wanted to fail as well. He is moving slowly, attempting to redeem their reputation and removing their brandish of being a traitor legion. If you have the time and patience, I HIGHLY suggest listening to this guy so you can be much more in depth with the characters in 40k. The dubs are also very engaging and well made, so please bro give this guy a chance! Here's the detailed Character story for The Lion so please bro do me a solid and give it a chance. I will continue to watch and support you and your content regardless!
Loyalty is it's own reward!
Channel name: The Amber King
Lion El Jonson - Complete Story of the 1st Primarch - Voice Acted 40k Lore
ruclips.net/video/qruJ_Ubbe0I/видео.html&ab_channel=TheAmberKing
Something important to keep in mind even with the emperor is, everyone is the bad guy in Warhammer
If you want more context for Angron, Perturabo and Lorgar, you should check out "The Mistakes of The Emperor" series. Figure out why a man like the Emperor lost control.
Idk if you’ve ever talked about it before in a past video but who are your top 5 primarchs so far? Obviously Vulkan at 1
Your side, my side, and the truth , Badylon 5 bro ❤
I hate to be THAT guy, but the fact remains that if the primarchs were never scattered across the galaxy, they wouldn't have the personality quirks that would've led to them being so different from the Emperor's design. Had they been raised on Terra, it would've been in line with the emperor's vision for them. For instance: Angron would never have the butcher's nails, Perturabo would've been raised alongside Rogal Dorn, and Vulkan would never have developed his more extreme xenophobia and extreme empathy for humans.
Lame reaction channels are lame
Jesus, you watch a lot of Majorkill videos. I’ve got nothing against him, but………god, his voice is so annoying. I don’t know how other people can stand it.