You know, whenever I watched this episode, I always thought of the scene when kryten says that he’s more important than rimmer, and I always thought that it wasn’t true, I mean rimmer is there to keep Dave sane, and that’s more important than anything to lister in the show
I think this my second favorite episode of the whole series. The satire is spot-on, dark, but still funny. Humankind didn't went out of business, because of war or environmental catastrophes, but because nobody couldn't afford to live anymore. It's still satire, but that's how it will end with corporations, if you just let them. Good stuff. And then no RD for quite a while *sniff.*
@@TheAussieBlue Eh, Hershey's is genuinely bad, being too tangy for its own good... But stuff like Baby Ruth, Three Musketeers, and Butterfinger are absolute delights! And I say this as a brit!
It's true. American Chocolate is awful. Though in it's defense many countries have different chocolate tastes that are acquired by it's population making switching to chocolate from another country to be... an experience. The UK for example use more vegetable oil in their chocolate. The US on the other hand use more Butyric acid that that is responsible for the stench of vomit which is the reason why a UK based show and it's producer's tend to make fun of US chocolate. The US have gotten used to it, whereas the UK wince slightly at the mere mention of Hershey's and the odor of their Butyric acid products.
When I saw Dave as an old man in the season teaser (relating to this episode) I thought they might address the old Lister from Future echoes. Like Lister wasn't really 171, but was aged up somehow and eventually changed back. But in the time he was old did the bit from Future Echoes. When all the call backs started happening in the episode I though "They're going for it! They're going for it!" and they didn't do it. Damn!
The whole concept of "paying with time" is already here in the form of free to play games - terrifying concept, especially when mobile games are targeting children. Plus all the "can't see products from rival companies once you're in our ecosystem" - unbelievable there haven't been more programmes exploring these idea's - whether for humour or for a more serious look at a future ruled by mega-corps.
Just so you know. the guy who played Steve is the warm up guy who introduces the actors n such to the crowd. He jokingly stated to Doug Naylor's son (who is Exec-Producer i think) infront of the audience wether or not he could be in and he said ill go and see only to see the Script to find himself in it. I always thought that was quite sweet.
M-Corp was definitely one of the better episodes, my only qualms were that they resolved it a little too easily. I was expecting more of a debate between Kryten and the M-Corp lady, kinda like the denouement of Fathers and Suns.
TMW when you hear M-Corp compared to CAAAPitalism and you realize it was literally a life service, allowing Lister to pay for things with his actual life span.
its just occurred to me that you might like another BBC Sci-fi comedy named 'Hyperdrive' it only had two seasons and unfortunately does not compete with 'Red Dwarf' but still worth a watch and there are enough good laughs from it
That whole thing about M-Corp taking over Earth could've been an important plot point in the series and the perception filter being the reason why they can't find it anymore or what's happened to humanity if the time off your life is being used as payment.
The plot is abit heavy on the commentary. and in a way i feel like the story might have got abit lost in the commentary. i never quite understood how these M-Corp items got on Red Dwarf. they just randomly appear? were they always there but were invisible? were they transported or materialized created? there is usually an in-universe science for this stuff but this time i guess the writer just left it out. One other aspect i think should have been avoided is saying Earth was taken over by M-Corp. You probably can guess earth just had their own Skynet based fate.
Yeah good episode, if a little undercooked. One can’t help what vintage Dwarf would have done with the concept. A concept that definitely says EA. Did I mean EA? I meant a fascistic overlording society that gets powerful by doing the bare minimum No wait I DID mean EA
Great video. I thought this episode had a lot in common with "Fathers and Suns." In both episodes Lister's life is endangered by an AI that communicates through a female avatar and takes its function to dangerous extremes, and in both episodes said AI is defeated by using its function against it.
@@Cyborcat Nobody can be expected to think of everything. I only realised it quite recently. Anyway, I love your Red Dwarf Vlogs, they're funny and insightful. I look forwards to seeing your thoughts on the upcoming special.
i enjoyed this episode. i didn't like the way up to this point series 12 had felt like some sort of comic relief does red dwarf with all the guest stars they rammed in. now it's possible the woman who played the m corp bitch queen is famous and i just don't know her but all i saw was the character rather than the actor as in earlier episodes and it helped a lot. she was one of my favourite red dwarf characters. genuinely sinister but kinda sexy too. i'm surprised dave didn't try to get off with her like he did with that simulant whose ship they'd totaled.
Considering the recent 'rate limit exceeded' on twitter, where you can't view more than 600 tweets on basic package, the whole '200 words only per day' here doesn't seem so far-fetched of a future now - scary!
@@ShrekWallBeebut they didn’t invalidate all of previous or future Red dwarf novels by revealing none of them were real. Nor does the novel invalidate its own second half when they have to deal with the black holes, Earth and the polymorph.
@@Cyborcat Put it this way, here in England it says on the packet "chocolate flavoured" because it has so little cocoa content that it's not legally allowed to be called chocolate. XD
Awesome Jim Sterling shoutout I also literally talked about the new seasons this morning and referenced this episode. Serendipity and red dwarf belong together like chilli and chutney.
I wouldn't be surprised if Philip K. Dick was an influence here. He has great jabs at capitalism in his stories. In one of his books, Ubuic, he describes an apartment where everything is coin-operated, including the front door and fridge.
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So Disney rebranded as M-Corp after the Great Buyout War then ?
1:35 Chippy taking inspiration from Cassandra
I feel like "even the American chocolate" is a small jab at Cadbury being bought
You know, whenever I watched this episode, I always thought of the scene when kryten says that he’s more important than rimmer, and I always thought that it wasn’t true, I mean rimmer is there to keep Dave sane, and that’s more important than anything to lister in the show
The American chocolate line is true though lol. (British chocolate tastes so much better, but melts at lower temps)
Lies =P
Belgian chocolate is the best.
I had a fried egg chilli chutney sandwich in anticipation of this. Went down a treat.
It's a state-of-the-art sarnie.
It's the state of the floor I'm worried about
I think this my second favorite episode of the whole series. The satire is spot-on, dark, but still funny. Humankind didn't went out of business, because of war or environmental catastrophes, but because nobody couldn't afford to live anymore. It's still satire, but that's how it will end with corporations, if you just let them. Good stuff.
And then no RD for quite a while *sniff.*
Kryten: "Maggots, quicksand, even the American chocolate."
Dena: "How dare you."
Me: "Yeah you tell'em Dena!"
I've had Herseys.
It's legitimately terrible. Tastes bad, leaves a chemical taste in your mouth, and it gave me the squirts.
@@TheAussieBlue Eh, Hershey's is genuinely bad, being too tangy for its own good... But stuff like Baby Ruth, Three Musketeers, and Butterfinger are absolute delights! And I say this as a brit!
@@NebLleb Oh yeah, Americans have great candy, but Herseys is what a lot of Americans recommend to me and I did NOT like the experience.
@@TheAussieBlue Yeah, whenever the Brits and Aussies mock American Chocolate, it's always Hersheys they're specifically going after.
It's true. American Chocolate is awful. Though in it's defense many countries have different chocolate tastes that are acquired by it's population making switching to chocolate from another country to be... an experience. The UK for example use more vegetable oil in their chocolate. The US on the other hand use more Butyric acid that that is responsible for the stench of vomit which is the reason why a UK based show and it's producer's tend to make fun of US chocolate. The US have gotten used to it, whereas the UK wince slightly at the mere mention of Hershey's and the odor of their Butyric acid products.
So what are your thoughts on Reese Peanut Butter Cups?
American chocolate is bad
Oh trust me. American chocolate is no longer chocolate
@@RemLasher77diarrhea in a shitcup.
When I saw Dave as an old man in the season teaser (relating to this episode) I thought they might address the old Lister from Future echoes.
Like Lister wasn't really 171, but was aged up somehow and eventually changed back. But in the time he was old did the bit from Future Echoes.
When all the call backs started happening in the episode I though "They're going for it! They're going for it!" and they didn't do it.
Damn!
Yeah, he did kinda look like that other old Lister, didn't he?
The whole concept of "paying with time" is already here in the form of free to play games - terrifying concept, especially when mobile games are targeting children.
Plus all the "can't see products from rival companies once you're in our ecosystem" - unbelievable there haven't been more programmes exploring these idea's - whether for humour or for a more serious look at a future ruled by mega-corps.
This is one of my all time favourite episodes. its dark and funny and exactly what i want from RD even if some of the Cat/Rimmer stuff is a bit weak.
Uncle frank, love that reference to Hellraiser and how they returned the compliment in bloodline with the character called Rimmer
Chris Barrie's flawless impression of Lister!!
As heard in the audiobooks!
Ah boy, the microtransaction thing is really great :p
"Cute episode" that was my reaction too! Which is odd considering how dark it is.
True XD
Great commentary.
Really looking forward to what you say about "Skipper".
"...morning Arnold."
I like this episode a lot so was waiting keenly for you to get to it. Yeah it does have an odd darkness underneath the 'cute'. And I like that. :)
Just so you know.
the guy who played Steve is the warm up guy who introduces the actors n such to the crowd. He jokingly stated to Doug Naylor's son (who is Exec-Producer i think) infront of the audience wether or not he could be in and he said ill go and see only to see the Script to find himself in it. I always thought that was quite sweet.
That's awesome ^.^
Steve is played by Ray peacock. who also played the video shop assistant in the Doctor Who episode Blink. He is also a very funny stand-up comedian.
I can believe he's a stand-up comedian. He has that kind of quality to him.
Tell em Steve Dave
M-Corp was definitely one of the better episodes, my only qualms were that they resolved it a little too easily. I was expecting more of a debate between Kryten and the M-Corp lady, kinda like the denouement of Fathers and Suns.
Good point.
Depends if the pill contains lavender. That stuff repeats on you for hours if you don't wash it down properly. Found that out the hard way...
TMW when you hear M-Corp compared to CAAAPitalism and you realize it was literally a life service, allowing Lister to pay for things with his actual life span.
its just occurred to me that you might like another BBC Sci-fi comedy named 'Hyperdrive' it only had two seasons and unfortunately does not compete with 'Red Dwarf' but still worth a watch and there are enough good laughs from it
@OffsetAirplane as i wrote that comment i had to look at clips and episodes and yes is does deserve more credit, i think it's underrated
Black Mirror meets Red Dwarf
That whole thing about M-Corp taking over Earth could've been an important plot point in the series and the perception filter being the reason why they can't find it anymore or what's happened to humanity if the time off your life is being used as payment.
Chippy is Red Dwarf technology, so of course he has a lousy bedside manner. :)
“It just works.”
The plot is abit heavy on the commentary. and in a way i feel like the story might have got abit lost in the commentary. i never quite understood how these M-Corp items got on Red Dwarf. they just randomly appear? were they always there but were invisible? were they transported or materialized created? there is usually an in-universe science for this stuff but this time i guess the writer just left it out.
One other aspect i think should have been avoided is saying Earth was taken over by M-Corp. You probably can guess earth just had their own Skynet based fate.
seems to be teleported on but I agree that's odd with them being so far out in space
American chocolate is crap though
You - random person I've never met - no longer exist to me.
Wouldn't factory settings include the ship's AI?
ie: Holly? Good point.
@@Cyborcat i.e. Holly. The not-senile, IQ 6000 version.
@@lynngreen7978eh, they got to that later.....
1:35 not sure if that joke was a call back to "Cassandra"
Yeah good episode, if a little undercooked. One can’t help what vintage Dwarf would have done with the concept. A concept that definitely says EA.
Did I mean EA? I meant a fascistic overlording society that gets powerful by doing the bare minimum
No wait I DID mean EA
Also I wonder if M-corp can sell me a perception filter that means I can pretend Timewave didn’t happen...
american chocolate is disgusting
You - random person I've never met - no longer exist to me.
@@lynngreen7978 but my statement is true
net neutrality
In retrospect, it probably is more like net neutrality than the gaming industry.
Great video. I thought this episode had a lot in common with "Fathers and Suns." In both episodes Lister's life is endangered by an AI that communicates through a female avatar and takes its function to dangerous extremes, and in both episodes said AI is defeated by using its function against it.
Oh hell, I never thought of that.
@@Cyborcat Nobody can be expected to think of everything. I only realised it quite recently. Anyway, I love your Red Dwarf Vlogs, they're funny and insightful. I look forwards to seeing your thoughts on the upcoming special.
i enjoyed this episode. i didn't like the way up to this point series 12 had felt like some sort of comic relief does red dwarf with all the guest stars they rammed in. now it's possible the woman who played the m corp bitch queen is famous and i just don't know her but all i saw was the character rather than the actor as in earlier episodes and it helped a lot. she was one of my favourite red dwarf characters. genuinely sinister but kinda sexy too. i'm surprised dave didn't try to get off with her like he did with that simulant whose ship they'd totaled.
I'm so so SO waiting for you to cover Skipper.
3.34 - sorry Dena, this Brit is with Cheese-Block-Head on this one 😅
Considering the recent 'rate limit exceeded' on twitter, where you can't view more than 600 tweets on basic package, the whole '200 words only per day' here doesn't seem so far-fetched of a future now - scary!
Red Dwarf has a way of predicting the future, doesn't it?
No joke American chocolate is s*** theo lol
Lies =P
@@Cyborcat I love Reese Peanut Butter cups. You tell’em.
0:50 good omens
i want to see a episode where they finally realise they are still playing BTL better than life
Eh, Back to Reality and Back to Earth explored a similar idea--I don't think we need that kind of story a third time.
It would just feel like a cheap twist, revealing the entire show beyond season 2 never happened. It offers nothing of value.
but thats what happened in the book Better Than Life
@@ShrekWallBeebut they didn’t invalidate all of previous or future Red dwarf novels by revealing none of them were real. Nor does the novel invalidate its own second half when they have to deal with the black holes, Earth and the polymorph.
I honestly loved all your red dwarf videos. Is there any chance in hell that you will do one for “the promised land”? I really want one 😭
Somebody's writers have seen Black mirror.
Wow, Lister killed Chippy quickly
why wasn't rimmer affected as he is a jmc hologram?
They mentioned that M-Corp has their own holograms.
@@CyborcatRimmer's hard light bee was made by Legion if memory serves.
Sorry Dena but Hershey bars are terrible
Lies =P
@@Cyborcat Put it this way, here in England it says on the packet "chocolate flavoured" because it has so little cocoa content that it's not legally allowed to be called chocolate. XD
You - random person I've never met - no longer exist to me.
@@lynngreen7978 :'( But it's true though!
@@Robert_B_445 * Boots Lyn Green up the jacksy *
It's okay since I don't exist either. :P
Thank God for the old Jim Sterling not the current one who is a smegging heel for a person.
Nah, they kick ass, and I'm glad they're living their best life.
So if EA merged with Disney, then it would become M-Corp?
Also, thank God for Jim Sterling, indeed!
Awesome Jim Sterling shoutout I also literally talked about the new seasons this morning and referenced this episode. Serendipity and red dwarf belong together like chilli and chutney.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Philip K. Dick was an influence here. He has great jabs at capitalism in his stories.
In one of his books, Ubuic, he describes an apartment where everything is coin-operated, including the front door and fridge.