'What happened to Nigel Farage and Reform UK is a GROSS INJUSTICE'
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
- Political commentator, Michael Crick, has said while he doesn't support Reform UK, what has happened to their result at this election is a 'gross injustice'.
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Reform is the only way
Haha.
😂😂😂
You just done it your way and got rexxed.
I'm the only way.
If i was Nigel, I'd keep a very, very close eye on Tice... I get the feeling that he'd sell his grandmother for a Knighthood and a cushy position.
Ahahaha. Reform didn't even cut into the Tories' vote, never mind Labour's.
@@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333 Labours first election won them 2 seats and look at them now. Reform is new and already has 5 seats and 4.1 million votes. The morons who voted for labour will be on their knees in 5 years time, by which time the country will be well and truly wrecked. Enjoy your nightly prayer calls!
4 million votes and 5 seats is outrageous!
Cry harder!
It is, but 98 second place, the people are behind reform after four weeks of Farage. Nigel, Richard and Lee in parliament will make a shift. I hope they sort out their constituency’s and everyone will be begging for a reform MP. The few, want the top two and most voted to get Tories out and kier got less votes than corbyn. The revolt is on, it’s a win 😊. Let’s go. 😊
Haha. Good, GOOD.
@@zog97xyyou still being a rat, sad person!
Would you like a cup for your tears? 🍵
We lost faith in the democratic system, is one of the many reasons why we support REFORM. Reform has done amazingly well.
I'm proud of what we achieved 🇬🇧
in just a month. It’s pretty amazing. Still upset how unfair that is but we’ve got to take what we can 👀
yeah bought in labour for 5 years of 2m per year immigrants til the demograghcs of this country changed forever with the help of farage the est shill,....
@@joycegibbs5267 Why are you folk all suddenly pretending that Reform have only existed for a month?
So why does " Micheal Crick" keep getting invited back to GB, he's nothing in common with Mr Farage he,s just said he's just a posher type of lefty " anarchist" at Nigel's speech this afternoon, .
Voted Reform even though I knew they wouldn't win in my constituency. Voted with my heart and brain. The revolt has begun.🎉
So did I m8.. Our reform guy had 7730 votes, so I'm happy that I wasn't alone..
Next time, he'll have more..
Same.
kevin. Your vote is never in vain because it shows opposition to the `establishment,` and that you broadly agree with the declarations in the Reform `contract.` Therefore numerous votes along those lines tell those in power they need to address those areas of life, or quickly become unpopular.
Same here .
Same
Lib /Lab received over half a million FEWER votes than Reform , and awarded 71 seats , while Reform is awarded 5 seats . This is a rotten system .
they were not AWARDED seats, they WON seats, reform won 5 of them, they came 1st place in 5 seats, all the other seats in the country they lost, lib dems came first in 71 seats.
its that simple, not sure why you people dont understand. its not a referendum where we vote for 1 big issues as a whole country liek Brexit, that only 37% of the population voted for, its lots and lots of mini elections, and then the winners of those mini elections go onto westminster.
@@user-bf2gt2tf2x Yes they are better at manipulating and conniving
Not a democracy is it
@pevebe I'm a reform voter but no-one cheated in this election.
@@user-bf2gt2tf2x The establishment have used every dirty trick in the book to cheat
We need to stand behind Reform it’s our only hope. 🙏🙏
@contemplating1015 is a bunch of has beens
@@countfosco8535 we can tell. It's ok...
I couldn't vote for reform. Tice is still in it.
I won't vote for them next time either if he's still there.
@@SuperAd1980 its not about the person , ita about what they standard and what they are for you dont get it
@@DC3Refom Tice standard's hope snot scate... There leadership is not only run by Labour paid activists but are also ex- skBritish mashional farty, and ex- smashional brount. (very easy to google)
As soon as they disavow those types, I'd be able to vote for them - not before.
Whichever Party you love or hate you know full well in your heart that 4 million votes producing 5 MPs is an out and out injustice!
Well said the system is unfair and undemocratic
Woulda been 4million and 1if we'd had a reform candidate I my constituency
100%. No question. Its completely insane.
But, remember that PR often ends up with ineffectual, weird coalition governments that can't accomplish anything and fall apart in 8 months.
There's no easy fix here.
Injustice? It is a pretty poor performance.
@@countfosco8535 Poor performance? 🤷♀️
Electoral reform is an urgent priority for our country. We cannot call ourselves a democracy when votes are so unequal
Verry well said
@@mattwalsh3759 Exactly. Why make people go to vote if their votes barely count?
Only because Reform UK lost. 🤣 FPTP is an excellent system compared to PR. Under PR nothing would get done.
@@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333 Countries with PR system don't agree.
@@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333If you were any denser you’d be concrete. FPTP benefits the Uniparty and not the millions who are represented by so few. I swear you must be a child with your primary school view of politics.
80% of the population have not voted for this current government.
Half the country chose not to vote 😕 unbelievably
80% of voters didn't vote for them ... in total its probably - including the ones who didn't vote who I don't get but whatever - 90% of the population!
Electorate you mean
@@jamesliasi3336No he means the population which includes the over 40% who didn't vote.
@@Fitlad75 Nope, some know the system already and it won't be changed because it's by design they always have control. And like you've noticed in previous years those top two are always the same or working towards the same outcome.
We the people demand a referendum now on the voting system.
...that's not how it works
@@andrewsmith78926 It's not up to politicians to set up how elections work. That is how it works.
We the people are enjoying a lovely glass of wine right now. And tomorrow we the people are meeting some friends and watching the football.
The big problem with PR is you will never get to choose your candidate and you will never get a representative.
You can only ever get the party head office choice who has nothing to do with you or your area and can never be held to account by your area, only their head office.
You'll never be able to recall them, you'll never be able to remove them, you'll never get to choose them.
@@Appregator actually it is
100% team farage 👏👏🇬🇧🇫🇴
Sorry that you find out this way but you didn't make it onto the team.
@@countfosco8535 Labour will be out in less than 100 day with vote of know confident 100% 💩💩🤣🤣
@@anthonyatherton5994I agree, there will be MPS looking over Starmers shoulders making sure he doesn't raise taxes and he sticks with his manifesto.
@@countfosco8535 You are a very boring TROLL.
@@countfosco8535you're probably one of those sad people who thinks they're funny.
Proportional Representation Now!!
Not going to happen we don't want fascists.
how?
LOL join the Lib Dems. They've asked for it for years.
Here in Australia PREFERENTIAL VOTING guarantee's the FAIREST DEMOCRATIC RESULT!
Must agree with you big time !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reform 14% of vote share 1% of seats
Lib-Dems 12% vote share 11% of seats
Democracy in the United Kingdom
Appalling and unjust.
I guess uneducated people don't know how our system works. How can you get seats if you don't win an area. Maybe they should do better and actually win, truth is reform is basically tories 2.0 so the right wing vote is split.
Get over it😂😂
@@bobdigi500 No change it.
@@bobdigi500Seeing the left enjoying themselves, they can be the ones going to war to fight that evil Russia. I'm unrepresented in this country.
Over 4million votes and5 MPs a great start with Nigel farage in parliament things will definitely liven up,
@@user-bf2gt2tf2x in 2029 general election if labour last that long , it will be between reform UK and labour , reform uk will win
Was a great result. The touch papers been lit @user-bf2gt2tf2x
@@user-bf2gt2tf2x Farage underestimated the depths of depravity that the establishment would resort to
@user-bf2gt2tf2x Every time you post you get owned. Lol.
Not as big a gaff as your 'glorious leader' thinking a man can have a cervix, or women can have a 'you know what' @@user-bf2gt2tf2x
Lowering the voting age to 16, absolutely pathetic. At 16 if you commit a crime you have to be charged as a child but they want you to vote as an adult. Talk about clutching at straws to stay constantly in power.
At least younger people are waking up. We need to keep educating them.
Reform won't need PR for the next GE after 5 years of Labour.
We will make sure you cant get in.
@@zog97xy No you wont.
@@zog97xy We'll rock up with tanks and paras, we'll then see if you're really keen to try that
@@pevebeTanks & paras…haven’t you heard that our military is completely and utterly depleted..in its current state it would struggle to fight its way out of a wet paper bag 😂
@@zog97xySure you will, sad act.
Reform 🇬🇧
Ha ha.
Would have loved to vote for them, but Tice is still in it, so refused!
Most of them are super-rich men. All men of course.
@countfosco8535 and you're upset that nobody will vote for you, a super rich woman.
Poor you.
Maggie managed it 40 years ago, what's your excuse?
Reform are gay
THE LORDS NEEDS TO GO, ITS CORRUPT ,
i agree it needs to go
No they need to be elected by the people not appointed by political mates. The Lords has a crucial function to debate government policies and to make changes that benefit the people before those policies become law. Without the Lords the government can enact policies with no push back from anyone. If elected they can be wiped out if they don't do a good job. Appointed they're beyond the reach of the voting public but voting them in ends ex PM's and political mates becoming Lords because the only way to become a Lord is to be voted in by the people in a general election.
🎉 Nigel is a lefty, he’s no Bert Wilders 🎉
@@AntiSepticUKleft of Far Right is good
👍👍👍👍💯💯💯
Clues in the name.... Reform needed
They're the same party.
Grow up.
@@richardgallagher4880 you grow up
@@JulieMalone-oy1ll
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Look who it is.
The thing that put starmer in office.
Shame on you.
I don't need the Reform company.
@@richardgallagher4880 Realy same as what???
Reform the system gonna be a long road but one worth doing
Good words
Far too long for Farage as he'll be off to support Trump in the US Presidential election in the autumn.
Do be so ridiculous.
The people and Reform will get there
I'm 79, I hope I live long enough to see Nigel as PM. 🥰
5 years of hard labour will wake up a lot of the sheep.
The only thing is 5 years might be too late to go back....
@@user-ou8uz2rn2oit's never too late.
I wish I believed that , I truly do .
Hard labour? I'm going on long term sick. Let the state pay for me to have my feet up.
@@pizzamad3334Doubt you do anything productive anyway.
REFORM!!!
It is a crap system, when 70% of the country did not want labour, that should be an issue
Labour voters you just voted sadik khan as your pm in the future well done starmers weak wef puppet
They're not the Tories or Reform. They don't swap leaders every five minutes.
Gary I really dont think your far wrong their labour will find a way to get starmer out in 3 years maybe 2 the movement to bring khan in has already started.
@@TOP.FOX. According to who?
@@TOP.FOX. wish i could get a bet on that khan becomes pm in the future starmers weak
@@user-bf2gt2tf2x you did have a nice day
Keep supporting reform everyone, this is only the beginning. From nothing a few months ago, they got a fantastic result in the highly orrupt system with constsnt snear. They're winning the youth vote and are resonating with a HUGE proportion of the rest of us. SUPPORT REFORM UK
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Conservatives should have stood down in a lot of seats for Reform to best Labour.
Exactly. They are complaining that Reform cost them the election. How entitled can they be? They continued to fight seats where they knew they had no chance….
the conservatives did much better then reform, why would they stand down, 150 seats vs 4
@@SAHBfanNigel stood down for them to secure a majority in 2019. 2024 they should have returned the favor. They’re so pompus, big headed and entitled. Right wing civil war, Reform will come out on top.
The illusion of believing we have a choice!
51% of 27% was a choice to leave the EU!
@@davidmoran7270 And have we left yet? You can win a vote but they don't go through with it, should have been no deal in 2015, but controllers say otherwise.
Half as many people voted for Reform as there were voting Labour. Yet Labour have 411 seats and Reform have 5. That's a lot of people's opinions getting ignored right there. It just breeds even more contempt and division.
What a con if that doesnt show us the systems rigged ffs.
It's a conspiracy! (clutching my pearls)
not to overlook the fact that Nigel spent many years to bring about Brexit before the referendum they are definitely aware of his abilities to bring about change.
Reform + 4M votes = 4 seats
Vs
LibDems + 3.5M votes = 71seats
Please can someone explain this
they got 5 seats
@@hano-boy that explains it.
Yes you wasters collaborated and legitimised another Eugovernment.
Well done🙄
google "first past the post v Proportional representation"
Lib dems have several core constituencies and they work on them
Labour get a 1.6% vote increase resulting in an extra 211 seats. This is the main reason for such a low turnout. If you want higher turnouts and more public engagement then the electoral system must change to proportional representation.
God no.
PR can never give you a choice of candidate and you will never get your area represented.
You can only ever get the party head office choice, and they will have nothing to do with you or your area.
They can never be held to account or recalled, only the party could do that, and you could never choose to vote for someone else if the person the party chooses to give you is scum.
THEY SAY 60% TURN OUT , AS THE OTHER VOTES ????????????????????????????
@@johnwilliam1945 lowest turnout for 25 years.
2nd lowest turnout for 100 years.
How is that not low?
Such a corrupt system we need reform ?
do you know what corrupt means
@@countfosco8535 yes when 4 million vote for a party and only get 5 MPS ? Do you
reform this dump
dump trump
🤣😂🤣they think there's still gonna be a UK in five years 😆
Exactly
project fear
If a Reform voter has less value than a Labour voter in gaining seats, is that not insulting, unfair and against their human rights ?
When you think of the number of people who died for us in the Second World War in order to preserve and protect democracy and then to have such an undemocratic system prevail in this country is simply disgusting and an offence to all those brave military personnel.
That undemocratic system has worked for hundreds of years. Each constituency elects an MP. That’s it. Reform have started small but they will build on this in the places they came 2nd and they will grow.
PR can never give you a representative. You will never be able to choose your MP.
Only the party head office could choose and they have nothing to do with you or your local area.
You'll never be able to recall your MP, or even choose not to vote for them if they are terrible, only the party can do that.
PR would remove any semblance of democracy and flush it in favour of a more communist ideal. Stalin would be proud
It's not the system. It is the 80% who stayed away from the Polling Station.Too feckin' lazy to get off their backside.
@@jimwhippet3697 And why did they stop at Home ? Could it be the First-Past-the -Post system? Perhaps they thought that their MP was in such a safe-seat that he would get in anyway without them going to the trouble of going to the Polling Station. Or perhaps it was a safe-seat and they thought there was no point in them voting because their vote wouldn't count anyway. We need a change. If we had had PR atthis election, apparently Reform would have won 93 seats - a bit of a difference.
@@mogznwaz It has work against the interests of the majority over the last 50 years.
Come on Reform uk 🇬🇧
I think Reform will make a hugh difference to English politics because they speak the truth and actually.care about the people. Long life to reform.
80% didn’t vote Labour! Why have we got Labour?
The same reason we got Brexit when less than 50% of the population voted for it
@@wc8246😂😂😂😂
Crick the prick actually said something worth listening to , Reform Uk deserve at least 80+ seats if not more
Ya it s rigged.
That was our last hurrah as sad as it is, four more years of open borders will cement our future
don't you lot ever get board of crying about boats and borders.
5 seats with the attack dog ambition, 400 seats with a wet blanket and no ambition. I know which I'm with. Small isnt necessarily weak, not here. Go REFORM give the wet blankets sheer hell !!!!!
Democracy what a joke
I suspect Nigel will have the last laugh...again!
Saving the NHS is not a laughing matter. Nor is representing the people of Clacton.
@@countfosco8535 i am referring to Nigel"s final speech in the EU parliament. Look it up.
The Man's A Laughing Stock ,Ukip,?? Hes A Grifter
@@paulmoorby2297 Silly troll.
@@111111877 hi ho ho
It’s all wrong that the Tories and Labour will always be the top 2 parties no matter how badly they do
Not if all Brits could see through the "smoke and mirrors" as the 2 main parties are just the 2 sides of one coin who are both slaves to the WEF and have just committed an horrendous crime on the British people as indeed the rest of the Worlds Govts have done ....I'll let you work that out it's not too hard 🤔 but why would you vote for an entity which sh at on u and ur fam. Ily🤔
The career politicians have obviously known this for far longer than the electorate.
that isn't even true though, just a quick google will confirm that, you guys are just so dopey you cant even do that
For any party to get two thirds of the seats with a third of the vote means they will have way too much voice. That voice which should be representing others is silenced!
Anyone with a basic grasp of mathematics can see this shit does not add up
what you even talking about
Did you fail school? It adds up perfectly.
@@countfosco8535 Oh dear , the (should be ) simple (and true ) comment seems to have truly flown (high) above your head .
@@gredax Reform got 14% of the vote and got 5 seats, Lib Dems got 12% of the vote and got 71 seat, yeah it all adds up perfectly.
@@gredax Oh I forgot Greens 2.9% with 4 votes, yep perfect calculations all round.
I voted reform, but regardless of whether you did or didn't, it is a strange system and hardly democratic when the people speak and they are ignored. Millions of votes and nothing to show for it, making it almost pointless in the first place.
Stitch up springs to mind .
The 2022 Labour Party Conference overwhelmingly decided to legislate for PR as soon as Labour came to power. It also called on the next Labour Government to implement PR in the first term. Hands up all those holding their breath.
Is it in their manifesto?
@@gredax What is not in their manifesto is far more worrying.
It's a pity more people didn't vote reform. When you get the liberal democrats with 71 and reform with 5 with both getting similar votes is wrong 😡😡
@@johnkitching2248No because you’d tax that too.
It's a pity that I was born in the city.
Reform over 4 millions votes and 5 seats. Lib Dem’s 3.4 million and 71 seats ? Hmmm first past the post is going to get a hell of a lot of scrutiny now and so it should. Only the UK and Belarus use 1st past the post in elections so are we in good company ?
It's a pity the result for Reform was so sh....
The issue lies with the 40pct who didn’t vote at all
4TH July 2024 " Judgement Day " , Labour in Power Forever .
Boats on the way ,
Energy Bills will sky-rocket ,
Let’s hope so. That will be a lesson to those who voted for labour.
@@georgerj2419totally right they need to see the error of there doing
Blah blah blah
Reform UK all the way.
We ARE taking our country back!
Keep watching…
It’s enough of the cosy uniparty club…
Starmer is Sunak - what’s the difference???
Same club.
We have had enough.
We ARE TAKING OUR COUNTRY BACK.
🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
🏴🏴🏴☝🏼🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
No you are not Gammon Moron!!!
I will only be voting REFORM from now on. It really is the only way forward
The system isnt "working" as it was designed in an era where there was only 2 parties.
It all boils down to the same, establishment politicians ripping off and not representing the citizens best interests
Farage is the establishment. Multi millionaire career politician
You know it's a right mess when Crick agrees with Farage.
Amazing how the LibNonDems have been very quiet about PR when they get over 70 seats having done sweet FA to get them.
No, they are way more experienced than the Reform company amateurs.
@countfosco8535 Experienced at playing the system yeah... The most pointless entity of UK politics.
@@jonmoll7178 No, not playing the system at all. Playing the system would suggest that the LibDems are getting some sort of advantage out of the current system. They are not. They would much prefer PR but they tried and they can't get it. What they are doing is focusing their energy on those constituencies where they can win. To me that shows experience and maturity. I'd rather have experienced and mature politicians than hand power to the chaos company.
@@countfosco8535 You sound like a maoist propagandist 😂😂
Why not have a referendum on PR. Let democracy decide.
We had one years ago but they came up with the AV instead of PR which in itself was so complicated they knew people wouldn't go for it
Reform won 14.3% of the votes cast, which under PR would have equated to 93 seats!! The 5 seats Reform did get is an insult, especially as the Lib Dems had 12.2% of the votes cast and were able to secure 71 seats!!!
PR is the only fair system that reflects the democratic view of the people.
Labour won 412 seats (63% of the seats) with only 33% of the votes cast!!!
100 percent.. its ridiculous
FPTP gives a total distortion of votes percentage parties get vs the number of MPs in parliament. A Labour government with 34% vote support but 64% of MPs in parliament. Totally screwed up.
@@user-bf2gt2tf2xThat doesn't change the fact that it's not democratic, since lots of votes don't count at all. More like a farce.
@user-bf2gt2tf2x Prove that.
@@user-bf2gt2tf2xThese bots sure do love to comment utter tripe. I hope the election results don’t keep you up at night.
When the LibDems formed a government with the Tories during the The Cameron-Clegg coalition in 2010, the Libdem manifesto promised 2 main things.
Top of their list was Proportional representation, and Secondly the scrapping of student tuition fees, and when they got the chance to push for both those policies in coalition they did nothing..
The establishment will to give people fair representation does not exist, why would a bunch of Turkeys vote for Christmas?.
They are traitors.
We should raise a petition to ensure parliament debate this injustice and go for proportional representation.
It can't be called Democracy with constituencies, we need proportional representation, the way its done with constituencies, it stops people voting as some area's such as mine W. Wirral it's considered a done deal for Labour...hence low turnout.
Same as gateshead . wardley which theyve done nothing for what so ever place is a dump . Plus people say they're all lying bs.
It’s disappointing but it’s the start we were all hoping for.Now Farage has a foothold in Parliament we can look forward to the calling out ot those who don’t like our traditional way of living
Yes it needs sorting immediately
Proportional representation would suit absolutely everybody from right to left. That way we are all truly represented in Westminster. The only people it doesnt suit is the uni party.
It won't be long before it's every man for himself...sad times ahead
Can’t anyone see it’s crooked 🙏🙏
what is?
Enjoy the honeymoon period Labour . 80% of the Country didn’t vote for Labour and they will be out next election. Reform will be taking those Labour votes no problem.
Therefore 99% of the country didn't vote for Reform Uk by your maths standards.
We haven't GOT a democratic system. That would entail Proportional Representation and no 'in power' party is EVER going to vote for that. It would ensure they'd be binned next opportunity.
Britain shares the FPTP system with only one European state....That bastion of free speech, electoral honesty and good governance....Belarus. Says it all really.
Labour has never been an opponent, just a act .
The system is RIGGED.
Probably first time ever I have agreed with Crick.
Complete joke...the world has changed but government has stood still...
I don't agree with him on much but I appreciate Michael Crick on GBNews, he's one of the dissenting voices that is fair, good faith and knowledgeable.
labour will not last 5 years, nigel will be our voice
Of course it's ridiculous, outrageous in fact
yeah even people who hate reform are saying this is bollocks. They got hosed, pure and simple
It's called British Democracy 😂😂😂😂
And the winner of oxymoron of the day goes to....
@@countiblis1246 Goes to Count Tiblisi
Reform UK are the only crowd who might get into power under the First Past The Post system and then change it. Not because it would then be in their interest but because they have principals, something that is absurdly alien to the Uniparty.
That doesn't make it any good.
Don't forget that Jim Alistair TUV got elected. TUV is in a pact with Reform, so maybe 6 MPs in Westminster .
So we agitate for proportional representation, and demand a referendum vote.
2nd in 99 areas,,,,, watch this space ❤
This would be cause for much rioting, if a Right Wing party achieved such a majority on a flimsy vote share.
It’s time for proportional representation and goodbye to first past the post. It’s unfair and disgraceful.
What can us common people do about this? We are not getting a demoncratic result! Petitions, referedum?? REVOLT?
I’m for Revolt. Time people woke up and took some responsibility for allowing this nonsense to continue.
Sure this will be raised in parliament A LOT from now on 😅
It just shows what an unfair electoral system we have and now Labour have a massive majority they will have the mandate to push through whatever they want to , it’s frightening
No point in complaining now. This has been a problem for decades. We vote in elections, but we don't have a say in how the system actually works. Hint: It doesn't work in our favour...
How is this fair?
Can’t change the voting system till you get rid of the House Of Lords.
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Reform need to cosy upto industrial unions , and promise to bring back steel manufacture
be careful what you wish for. PR is a route for islamist in parliament.
Not if we STOP people from the Medieval Death Cult entering the country and ensure that Sharia brides here, (not the real /legal wife), get NO child benefits nor any housing benefit!
So is first past the post
Yes, a very simple and easy reform would be to simply allocate the seats in the House of Lords in proportion to the general election result. It could be done now. Why not?
We need a republic, vote for your local MP and a separate vote for the PM.
Yes given millions instead of put on trial.