Someone please help me understand around the 16:27 mark when Tom explains buying / selling into Volatility strength and weakness. What does he mean when he says, "We like to buy into strength and sell into weakness", when he's talking about Implied Volatility? As premium sellers, we open a position by selling, or we have a strategy that depends on a short position, right? So if I open a position by selling with high IV, and the actual volatility contracts, doesn't that help me as a premium seller? If the strike is OTM, doesn't extrinsic value shrinks as IV shrinks--making my position worth less and less to the buyer? Sorry for muddling up the question... I'm new to this.
something I just learned and very critical to what you were saying. What is the actual market doing? This isn't as obvious, as you would think, in the beginning. From my own perspective, I thought the market just floated around depending on what stocks were going up and down. I didn't recognize how much the actual market influenced single stocks. This is NOT stressed enough! I think it may even be more important than the stock you pick under a lot of circumstances. I think it would be easier for people to start off on SPY or be more aware of how important the S&P is in effecting their trades.
Yes, putting the charts of SPY and whatever stock side by side, you can see the correlation, and you can see how much of a stock price's movement is from the overall market and how much is from the company itself
I'm confused about something Tom says regarding the Weakness/Strength slide.... the slide says ...Contrarians....buy into weakness.....sell into strength. However, in his explanation at 16:46 in the video, he says the exact opposite of what the slide says.....he states " we like to buy into strength because volatility contracts into strength; we like to sell into weakness because volatility expands into weakness"... I'm assuming he's trying to explain how to buy low and sell high.... however the contradiction between his words and the slide has me confused. If anyone else can confirm or explain, I'd appreciate your thoughts. This is an important point of the presentation and I want to be clear. Thank you.
I was looking for some information to be a better trader and instead I found that I am already using the same strategies that you are. My underlying criteria is a bit different and I try to stick to a list of 20 but otherwise very similar. I think it is highly valuable to get to know a few really well and truly understand if they are oversold or overbought so I know when to use caution and increase POP and decrease ROC or when they are oversold and I can take a risk on reducing POP and increasing ROC.
Yep confusing. but i think the slide when trading stocks holds true but as options traders (from the side of selling premium) the reverse is true. hopefully, someone will respond and provide some clarity
On slide 10 it says buy into weakness and sell into strength, but on the audio when he's talking about expansion and contraction of volatility, he says exactly the opposite. Anyone know which is right?
Hi Tony and Tom, It makes sense to look at liquidity and volatility to pick underlying to trade then, do you guys compare current price in relation to 52 week high and lows to pick directional bias?
Two questions: 1. Why is the Bid/Ask spread in TSLA so large ($0.25) if it's so liquid? 14:00 2. Should one use the same selection strategies, such as looking for high Open Interest and IV Perentile etc, if you are just buying long calls or puts and not selling premium? I understand that we are just measuring liquidity, but a high IV Percentile can place a long call/put trade on the other end of premium sellers who benefit from the high IV environment. Is that dangerous for long calls or puts? Thanks
Check 16m25 to 16m50 : Slide mentions "As contrarians we buy into weakness and sell into strength". But when explaining it Tom says " we like to buy into strength and sell into weakness" when related to implied volatility. I kinda get what you're getting at, but it is confusing at the same time.
Juan Valdez Tom is referring to the underlying stock/market when discussing buying into strength/selling into weakness. What he is saying is that when stocks are strong and moving upwards, volatility generally contracts or "weakens." This presents an opportunity to close our short premium positions. When a stock or market is weak, or selling off, the implied volatility of that underlying will generally increase or "strengthen." This means we will have an opportunity to sell premium since volatility is higher. So, when stocks are weak, volatility is strong (high), and we sell premium. When stocks are strong, volatility is weak (low), and we buy in our profitable short premium plays. Thanks for commenting!
@@tastyliveshow So... basically what you're saying is where volatility is at for an underlying dictates when you enter and exit a position? Like with earings plays?
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I am 11 years late... But this is gold!
Tasty video! Excellent way to learn basics with the added retrospective of the price of stocks like IBM
Amazing channel. Keep up the good work guys.
Someone please help me understand around the 16:27 mark when Tom explains buying / selling into Volatility strength and weakness. What does he mean when he says, "We like to buy into strength and sell into weakness", when he's talking about Implied Volatility? As premium sellers, we open a position by selling, or we have a strategy that depends on a short position, right? So if I open a position by selling with high IV, and the actual volatility contracts, doesn't that help me as a premium seller? If the strike is OTM, doesn't extrinsic value shrinks as IV shrinks--making my position worth less and less to the buyer? Sorry for muddling up the question... I'm new to this.
something I just learned and very critical to what you were saying. What is the actual market doing? This isn't as obvious, as you would think, in the beginning. From my own perspective, I thought the market just floated around depending on what stocks were going up and down. I didn't recognize how much the actual market influenced single stocks.
This is NOT stressed enough! I think it may even be more important than the stock you pick under a lot of circumstances.
I think it would be easier for people to start off on SPY or be more aware of how important the S&P is in effecting their trades.
slippyC73 especially for shorter term trades IMHO
Yes, putting the charts of SPY and whatever stock side by side, you can see the correlation, and you can see how much of a stock price's movement is from the overall market and how much is from the company itself
first timer , your education is delish and humor is wonderful.
I'm confused about something Tom says regarding the Weakness/Strength slide.... the slide says ...Contrarians....buy into weakness.....sell into strength. However, in his explanation at 16:46 in the video, he says the exact opposite of what the slide says.....he states " we like to buy into strength because volatility contracts into strength; we like to sell into weakness because volatility expands into weakness"... I'm assuming he's trying to explain how to buy low and sell high.... however the contradiction between his words and the slide has me confused. If anyone else can confirm or explain, I'd appreciate your thoughts. This is an important point of the presentation and I want to be clear. Thank you.
Sometimes they like to talk about selling options...
The guys are having a blast here
Well done gentlemen. Thankyou.
i really like your approach
I was looking for some information to be a better trader and instead I found that I am already using the same strategies that you are. My underlying criteria is a bit different and I try to stick to a list of 20 but otherwise very similar. I think it is highly valuable to get to know a few really well and truly understand if they are oversold or overbought so I know when to use caution and increase POP and decrease ROC or when they are oversold and I can take a risk on reducing POP and increasing ROC.
Tom please clarify, you said you buy into strength and sell into weakness because of IV expansion and contraction, but your slide says otherwise.
Yep confusing. but i think the slide when trading stocks holds true but as options traders (from the side of selling premium) the reverse is true. hopefully, someone will respond and provide some clarity
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On slide 10 it says buy into weakness and sell into strength, but on the audio when he's talking about expansion and contraction of volatility, he says exactly the opposite. Anyone know which is right?
Matt Bless I didn't catch what was on the slide but when I heard him say it I thought he said it backwards.
What he verbally said is correct, you want to sell premium into weakness(higher IV), and buy premium on strength(lower iv).
Hi Tony and Tom, It makes sense to look at liquidity and volatility to pick underlying to trade then, do you guys compare current price in relation to 52 week high and lows to pick directional bias?
They don’t believe price is mean reverting so no. They think each movement is random
I love these guys lol been watching for years. So entertaining and informative. "What do you want a medal?" hahahaha
Gotta watch out for binary events 15:35
Good info
Please clarify slide 10 and what you have explained it in video a bit confusing
Good video!!!!!
hey Tom, i love your hat/cap.
Am I the only one seeing blurry rectangles on a bunch of these tastylive videos
How do we choose? Is anything else than qqq?
Two questions:
1. Why is the Bid/Ask spread in TSLA so large ($0.25) if it's so liquid? 14:00
2. Should one use the same selection strategies, such as looking for high Open Interest and IV Perentile etc, if you are just buying long calls or puts and not selling premium? I understand that we are just measuring liquidity, but a high IV Percentile can place a long call/put trade on the other end of premium sellers who benefit from the high IV environment. Is that dangerous for long calls or puts?
Thanks
Check 16m25 to 16m50 : Slide mentions "As contrarians we buy into weakness and sell into strength". But when explaining it Tom says " we like to buy into strength and sell into weakness" when related to implied volatility. I kinda get what you're getting at, but it is confusing at the same time.
Juan Valdez Tom is referring to the underlying stock/market when discussing buying into strength/selling into weakness. What he is saying is that when stocks are strong and moving upwards, volatility generally contracts or "weakens." This presents an opportunity to close our short premium positions. When a stock or market is weak, or selling off, the implied volatility of that underlying will generally increase or "strengthen." This means we will have an opportunity to sell premium since volatility is higher. So, when stocks are weak, volatility is strong (high), and we sell premium. When stocks are strong, volatility is weak (low), and we buy in our profitable short premium plays. Thanks for commenting!
+Juan Valdez The Slide meant the weakness and strength of IV.
not the most eloquent definition, but yeah.. it is confusing. Nice remark though.
@@tastyliveshow So... basically what you're saying is where volatility is at for an underlying dictates when you enter and exit a position? Like with earings plays?
@@tastyliveshow He's not saying that all; if he is...it is far from clear. Replay it and then comment correctly.
11:38 SAVAGE...LOL
POP ROCS, got it.
interesting and hilarious
every time get dispointment i came to see tasty trades
Smoking jay!!!
Options is the same as betting. If you raise or lower 10% from one day to the next, with any strategy you lose all your money.
Matias Braconi walking out your front door and driving a car is also betting. You’re betting on making it to your destination without getting in an accident and dying. We all manage risk and take gambles - some people learn to get paid for it. Those people are position stock market traders.
Anyone else feel like cannoli now?
I keep replaying the lambo...it so funny.
Omg 😲 get to the point ☝️ he takes forever
Can any one help where to find this info shown in the table IV/OPEN INTEREST
Threw your son under the bus 2x. It wasn't even about efficient market at that point. You just had to tell the funny
Is he scarred? 😮😂
hOW DO i KNOW WHAT IS OVER BOUGHT?
And stochastics.
JUsT LOOk AT ROKu
when it's too expensive
I mean blue lol
7 years later IBM@120 lol
Hit 'L' a lot.
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whats with the goofy hat he always wears