Again I get countered hard, I lead grass, ran into talon, lead talon, ran into a swampert , like this.. lead vigo, get vigo and lose cmp, charja also, lose cmp every time..:
They gonna nerf incinerate energy gain back to 15 because of it. Or nerf blast burn. They didnt think it through giving typhlosion thunder punch now other Pokémon are gonna suffer just like they did hydro and eq because of swampert. Nerfed tf out of both moves.
That's literally not true at all. The list of Pokémon I have seen is extensive. off the top of my head; Toxapex, Typhlosion, Charjabug, Vigoroth, Dubwool, Dunsparce, Lokix, Pidgeot, Diggersby, Galvantula, Skeledirge, Talonflame, Charizard, Whiscash, Quagsire, Swampert, Ferrothorn, Cradily, Girafarig, Oranguru, Poliwrath, Lickitung, Emolga, Zapdos, Magnezone, Feraligator, Jellicent, Sallazzell, Turtonator and the list goes on.
@@hyperdymented7448 the trick to beating Girafarig is that this meta lacks the presence of the two types that resist psychic damage. Not many steel apart from Ferrothorn and the occasional Electric steel but dark is nowhere to be seen. The presence of Vigoroth and other fighters have people petrified to run any dark type. I though, for the last 2 days, ran my rank 1 great league Lokix in the back to specifically destroy the double psychic line
The key thing w vigoroth is i see people immediately go for that body slam. If your matchup is good then you sandbag up to rock slide and then slam, 9 out of 10 times they shield to block slide and you follow with second slam and they shield again, so even if vigoroth dies you'll move to next phase up two shields.
been doing solid with quag, charjabug, and toxapex. rank 1 toxapex has ultimately been alot of fun to use. alot of ppl try throwin vig against quag swap right into toxapex and most top left haha
Another sneaky play. Pidgeot lead with instant brave bird, then went to Vig once defence drops. I have no shielded that thinking it would be feather dance and basically instantly lost the match from it.
I've been running lead quick attack fire punch diggersby with a double water backline (poliwrath/mantine & mantine/toxapex), it has worked exceptionally well, winning like 8/10 leads... unless if theres a lead jellicent... or double grass...
Does quagsire pair well with charjabug? I have a mud bomb quag, and I thought it would be super weak to stuff like a grass lead, because grass means always a water or ground in the back, and charjabug does well against stuff like that. I'm currently swapping between charjabug vigoroth jelliscent and charjabug vigoroth mantine for 3-4 wins sets
It does! Quag resists fire and rock and is super effective against them. Charjabug resists grass is super effective against grass. They essentially have perfect coverage.
I’ve been running a triple normal team of Oranguru lead, with Vig and diggersby in the back and have climbed to 2438. Honestly I’m not minding this cup
Same, but also don't feel like I have a choice, I feel like I really need a flyer but I just don't have the mons or stardust to get anything ready to go.
I’ve also been seeing more Charjabug than Vigoroth, I think it’s probably no.1 in the meta as even in bad matchups it doesn’t lose too hard - bar Turtonator!
I was going shockingly well with Lanturn, Vigoroth, and Talonflame, until I abruptly wasn't. And now no matter what I switch to, I cannot win lol Gonna try some of these I guess
My sleeper picks Dewgong and Tsareena. She destroys mud boys, Swampert is something like 5 magical leafs and dead. If Vig trainer isn’t on the ball I kill the the jump quick, same with many ice types. She also resists electric. Fire not fun tho. Dewgong is fun especially vs grass both super effective but Dewgong almost always wins in bulk. Victory bell gets charge attacks quicker tho so I need a health advantage there.
Again I get countered hard, I lead grass, ran into talon, lead talon, ran into a swampert , like this.. lead vigo, get vigo and lose cmp, charja also, lose cmp every time..:
Typhlosion has been my go to. Thunder punches in 2 incinerates is criminal
They gonna nerf incinerate energy gain back to 15 because of it. Or nerf blast burn. They didnt think it through giving typhlosion thunder punch now other Pokémon are gonna suffer just like they did hydro and eq because of swampert. Nerfed tf out of both moves.
Quagsire everywhere though
hmm that’s still technically 10 turns which gives a ton of space for enemy energy gain
@@mattiaskeinnn3317lol no, typhlosion is better but not a huge issue. Incinerate will be the last they touch
What I’ve learned from this meta is that it’s even more stale than Spring Cup, which I didn’t think it was even possible 🤪
That's literally not true at all.
The list of Pokémon I have seen is extensive. off the top of my head;
Toxapex, Typhlosion, Charjabug, Vigoroth, Dubwool, Dunsparce, Lokix, Pidgeot, Diggersby, Galvantula, Skeledirge, Talonflame, Charizard, Whiscash, Quagsire, Swampert, Ferrothorn, Cradily, Girafarig, Oranguru, Poliwrath, Lickitung, Emolga, Zapdos, Magnezone, Feraligator, Jellicent, Sallazzell, Turtonator and the list goes on.
@@omarholder9036 Can we just straight up BAN GIRAFARIG??
@@hyperdymented7448 the trick to beating Girafarig is that this meta lacks the presence of the two types that resist psychic damage. Not many steel apart from Ferrothorn and the occasional Electric steel but dark is nowhere to be seen. The presence of Vigoroth and other fighters have people petrified to run any dark type.
I though, for the last 2 days, ran my rank 1 great league Lokix in the back to specifically destroy the double psychic line
I disagree. This is one of my preferred specialty cups. Although the meta mons may feel limited there are actually many ways to play them
@@omarholder9036 I’ve started running obstagoon to counter those stupid confusion teams
The key thing w vigoroth is i see people immediately go for that body slam. If your matchup is good then you sandbag up to rock slide and then slam, 9 out of 10 times they shield to block slide and you follow with second slam and they shield again, so even if vigoroth dies you'll move to next phase up two shields.
Quag and toxapex are everywhere. Jellicent is a strong pick to counter them in my current elo range.
I really like Beedrill. It did well against Toxapex and Charjabug. You should also beat vigoroth with Beedrill
been doing solid with quag, charjabug, and toxapex. rank 1 toxapex has ultimately been alot of fun to use. alot of ppl try throwin vig against quag swap right into toxapex and most top left haha
Ive been running with Skeledirge instead of Toxapex(don’t have one build rn) and I’ve also had a ton of success.
@@bugeyes102 I’ve been meaning to run skele just haven’t decided with who haha but toxapex is great to have it’s expensive but worth it
@@BrandonVarona-u8jrank 1 pex is bad, you want some attack to get some breakpoints that can flip matches against ferrothorn and others
What why? Vigoroth against toxapex is not even bad
What a boring team to use
Nice, smooth, summer time recap.
Another sneaky play. Pidgeot lead with instant brave bird, then went to Vig once defence drops. I have no shielded that thinking it would be feather dance and basically instantly lost the match from it.
Fun line has been Toxapex, Alolan Marowak, Cradily; it has served me well.
Triple ghost has done well for me with the viggy heavy lines I'm seeing. Fair amount of RPS but does well overall
I've been doing well with Trevenant
What’s the team?
I've been running lead quick attack fire punch diggersby with a double water backline (poliwrath/mantine & mantine/toxapex), it has worked exceptionally well, winning like 8/10 leads... unless if theres a lead jellicent... or double grass...
Does quagsire pair well with charjabug? I have a mud bomb quag, and I thought it would be super weak to stuff like a grass lead, because grass means always a water or ground in the back, and charjabug does well against stuff like that. I'm currently swapping between charjabug vigoroth jelliscent and charjabug vigoroth mantine for 3-4 wins sets
It does! Quag resists fire and rock and is super effective against them. Charjabug resists grass is super effective against grass. They essentially have perfect coverage.
I’ve been running a triple normal team of Oranguru lead, with Vig and diggersby in the back and have climbed to 2438. Honestly I’m not minding this cup
I've veen running vig, quag, charj. Today I ran into my exact team, 3 times. It's just so boring
That means you've ultimately contributed to the problem.
Same, but also don't feel like I have a choice, I feel like I really need a flyer but I just don't have the mons or stardust to get anything ready to go.
I’ve also been seeing more Charjabug than Vigoroth, I think it’s probably no.1 in the meta as even in bad matchups it doesn’t lose too hard - bar Turtonator!
I have a shadow pidgeot build but it still has frustration, i realy need a shadow event because i wanna use it
I was going shockingly well with Lanturn, Vigoroth, and Talonflame, until I abruptly wasn't. And now no matter what I switch to, I cannot win lol
Gonna try some of these I guess
My sleeper picks Dewgong and Tsareena. She destroys mud boys, Swampert is something like 5 magical leafs and dead. If Vig trainer isn’t on the ball I kill the the jump quick, same with many ice types. She also resists electric. Fire not fun tho. Dewgong is fun especially vs grass both super effective but Dewgong almost always wins in bulk. Victory bell gets charge attacks quicker tho so I need a health advantage there.
Getting walled using any teams with vigoroth and charjabug. I’ve started using Whiscash, tox, and mantine
The real counter-meta teams come with Pokémon not on the list 🤔
Buzzwole says hi!
I was really surprised to see buzzswole the other night. Folded to charjabug in the end but it seems like it could do well.
Jellicent carried me so hard this cup
I usually gain a lot of elo in specialty cups, but summer cup has been the worst rps I've seen in a while.
S swampert leqd, charger ss, pidg with gust finisher got me huge amount of 5 0 s
Can't remember the 3rd but a giraffe and orangu messed up my triple poison team super hard it wasn't even funny.
Rip bee tox sal
I like the Giraffe trevor jellicent team but switch trevor with fire gator
Could you timestamp the teams please Dan? Thanks
Just skim bruh 😊
@@Oobi666 I have a shit job buddy.
ugh this cup is so bad lol, gonna take a break for sure
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