This is what REALISTIC Violin Progress Looks Like

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  • Опубликовано: 25 дек 2024

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  • @NunaLuna
    @NunaLuna 3 месяца назад +24

    Hello! While I was going to the university this morning, I went to your channel to watch something useful for improving my technique and accidentally saw myself on the cover. It was sooo unexpected for me!😂😂 Thank you for your valuable comments! I laughed a lot at the jokes about Russians and winter and my colleague with а phone

  • @hamwhacker
    @hamwhacker 4 месяца назад +39

    I sometimes worry that many child prodigies (who don’t necessarily all make it to be famous) burn out and actually ended giving up the violin. For me personally, learning and playing the violin is a lifelong challenge. And that’s what makes it enjoyable. It’s the journey that is often more fun, not the getting there. I feel like I am endlessly climbing a beautiful mountain, completely without resentment and full of inspiration. And people like you along the way definitely make violin life even greater. Thank you!

    • @sonja4186
      @sonja4186 3 месяца назад +1

      I don't know, violin prodigies probably love their instrument. You can force a child to practice but it won't sound good if a child does n't have an inner drive to get better

  • @xenophile84
    @xenophile84 3 месяца назад +6

    Great video. As a professional violinist who has also been teaching for 25 years, I would emphasize that this young woman clearly has a good teacher and practices a lot. If you take weekly lessons with a qualified teacher and practice for an hour or more every day, you could sound like this in five years. If you don't, you won't.

  • @shoppingreviews7755
    @shoppingreviews7755 4 месяца назад +37

    "Make sure you enjoy the journey because it's gonna be the long one!" Me, dying from learning vibrato and clean bow change😢 I am now into 7 months of self-teaching violin, and I feel like the journey to Bach's Chaconne is forever!!!

    • @sonja4186
      @sonja4186 4 месяца назад +18

      @shoppingreviews77 have you never had a teacher? Vibrato within 7 months sounds quite fast to me

    • @bruhmoment-pn2tz
      @bruhmoment-pn2tz 4 месяца назад +14

      get a teacher dude

    • @ImogenValkyrie
      @ImogenValkyrie 4 месяца назад +10

      Clean bow change should be your number one priority first before vibrato

    • @nickcarroll8565
      @nickcarroll8565 4 месяца назад

      @@piedepecanasjust vibrato til you find the right pitch 😂

    • @JevBird91-kt1fz
      @JevBird91-kt1fz 4 месяца назад +5

      If you don’t know clean Bow change then it’s probably affecting your tone, and that will make vibrato 100 times harder.

  • @Violinna
    @Violinna 4 месяца назад +14

    Great review! Anastasia clearly has an excellent teacher and as you said, she is so consistent and focused on those incremental improvements. The mindset behind all of it is the key driver too.

  • @claudio8313
    @claudio8313 4 месяца назад +10

    Very interesting how an adult can make solid and concrete progress. A question I always ask myself: if a potential virtuoso started playing the violin at 30-40 years old or more instead of 4 years old, what results would he get? Would the adult body impede the virtuosity he would get if he were a child?

    • @ln06502
      @ln06502 4 месяца назад +1

      Good question!

    • @luck8999
      @luck8999 4 месяца назад +3

      rather than age determining how fast you learn, partt of it's more 'how quickly your muscles can develop neurally and physically. often when you begin learning something new you're tense until you get the hang of it. my best advice is to always finds ways to relax while playing to remove more and more tension, even whence youre a professional always be searching. by the time you can physically relax while doing a new technique it should be mastered. it's kind of like how if you wanna play and dance you'd have to do both at the same time, cuz practicing them separately won't give you the ability to do them together. whenever you first weaken your hand strength more than youre used to, practicing the technique should cause a light shake. that light shake's normal and actually what you wanna search for, the shaking lets you locate underdeveloped loose movements. letting it shake while loose and not squeezing for more control prompts the brain to develop that movement to not shake at that tension level, and thats where most my rapid progress came from. also give it a few hours or a night for your practice to set in. often i practice and i dont improve until i retry in a few hours or the next day. the brain takes time to apply your practice to itself. the brain changes slower as you age, but a relaxed old brain is more powerful than an unrelaxed youthful brain

    • @claudio8313
      @claudio8313 4 месяца назад +1

      @@luck8999 Thanks for the advice 🙏👍

    • @goldika
      @goldika 3 месяца назад +3

      Interesting question! I guess it is possible but much harder to "unlock" the virtuosity. Adults normally can't just practice 4 or more hours every day and get lots of lessons, orchestra etc in addition to that. Since i started the violin 4 years ago, I try to get in as much practice as possible and it's about 1,5 hours a day, including 2 lessons a week and orchestra once a week. But I don't have musical parents correcting my practice like most of the child prodigies and I don't have additional theory lessons and piano lessons etc.. these are all factors that children mostly need to become such prodigies. And when they are young, they are also mostly less overthinking, less tense and have much less performance anxiety (which is my biggest enemy 😅). So I think it's possible to reach the same level but it probably needs longer and is harder to achieve for an adult than for a child 😊

    • @xenophile84
      @xenophile84 3 месяца назад

      We do lose a certain amount of flexibility as we age, and I believe this is why you never encounter virtuoso violinists who started as adults or even as teenagers. Those of us who started as young children quite literally grew with the instrument.

  • @squ33shypanda37
    @squ33shypanda37 3 месяца назад

    As someone who played the cello for 5 years, stopped for 7, and now coming back to do the cello as well as the violin this was reassuring. I remember not wanting to play the violin originally bc of it’s uncomfortable hold. it was easy to learn the cello but now I want a beautiful string instrument that is more portable, would have done the viola for its lower sounds but as a gift I was given a violin

  • @dougnickerson
    @dougnickerson 3 месяца назад +1

    Excellent video - I have a student that's been studying for two years and there's a lot of progress - sometimes she doesn't believe me when I tell her she's improving 😀

  • @oxoelfoxo
    @oxoelfoxo 4 месяца назад +2

    go Anastasia! loved the commentary/review/analysis

  • @ellendegreef9772
    @ellendegreef9772 3 месяца назад

    Thanks for this video, this is encouraging! I started the violin 2 years ago at 42 (but I did have prior experience in music, 35 years of piano so I wasn’t starting from scratch regarding solfège etc). Right now I’m studying the second Seitz concerto/movement in Suzuki book 4. Sometimes it seems a lot has happened in those 2 years, and other times I’m like “I’ll never master this” (because, well, age does have something to do with it, it’s more difficult to master certain things). Each lesson my teacher gives me a lot of feedback and sometimes it seems like she has to repeat the same things over and over again and I can get a bit frustrated because, well, “I know this, she told me before, why is this still an issue?” but by watching this video I realize she probably doesn’t expect me to master all of the things she mentions at once/right now but she keeps repeating them because with time I’ll get it. I try to practice every day, anything from 20-30 minutes to an hour or more if I have the time, and looking back that’s what took me from Twinkle Twinkle to Seitz ❤️

  • @ShahFareed-y3k
    @ShahFareed-y3k 3 месяца назад +1

    Anastasia is making good progress. After the spirited duet,I was expecting the Vivaldi to be more musical. There's dramatic improvement in sound in the last 2 or 3 clips and phrasing is taking shape nicely as well. There is real feeling in the last one.
    Beautiful mellow tone in the Mendelssohn. I wanted to continue listening.

  • @lukefidalgo8154
    @lukefidalgo8154 3 месяца назад +1

    this video made me want to practice all of a sudden

  • @gamingwithmndandlnd4952
    @gamingwithmndandlnd4952 4 месяца назад +3

    Great video. It’s a little reassuring since I’m 16 and I’m a 5th year violinist and I just see 8 year olds on RUclips playing 10 times better so at least I know what progress sounds like for real and it looks like I’m on the right track

  • @MarijkeViolin
    @MarijkeViolin 4 месяца назад

    This was really interesting to see! As an adult beginner myself (I'm 8 years in), it's indeed very important to enjoy the journey and play together with other people. 😄

  • @mikeconcino4022
    @mikeconcino4022 4 месяца назад +1

    Good video. Great for providing some perspective on progress. Thanks!

  • @barabarahito
    @barabarahito 4 месяца назад +5

    She was better in two years than I was in 20...

    • @Illeeegal
      @Illeeegal 3 месяца назад +2

      Im 16 and ive been playing the violin for a decade and at year 4. she topped me. Although this is her most impressive stuff she played that year so maybe I’m a pessimist

    • @barabarahito
      @barabarahito 3 месяца назад

      @@Illeeegal To b fair Iknow people who play worse than me after a longer time, but I think having a good teacher and the right environment to grow and develop makes a huge deference. I noticed an improvement at a time when I was playing in groups a lot, but progress stopped when I went back to mainly playing for myself.

    • @Illeeegal
      @Illeeegal 3 месяца назад

      @@barabarahito True. She is focusing very hard on improvement for 4 years unlike me 😂

  • @briancherenaacosta923
    @briancherenaacosta923 4 месяца назад

    That girl is gold. I loved that video.

  • @maramadrid5237
    @maramadrid5237 4 месяца назад

    So nice to see different age students progress, made me feel nice

  • @henrypagan6657
    @henrypagan6657 3 месяца назад

    Hi thank you for the video. I’m 57 started playing the violin now 3 months I’m playing Thais. And the guitar also and playing three songs.

  • @davidbrandt6925
    @davidbrandt6925 4 месяца назад

    Great student, great analysis by you sir! Thank you!

  • @robertpadgett4192
    @robertpadgett4192 4 месяца назад

    Your tutorials are fantastic!

  • @Ahmed-Tea
    @Ahmed-Tea 4 месяца назад +3

    As a Russian guy who plays violin SKIPACH is violinist :)

  • @sonja4186
    @sonja4186 4 месяца назад

    Nice video with a positive review. Interesting to see what good normal progress is from the point of a teacher.

  • @mauriziochirca8939
    @mauriziochirca8939 4 месяца назад +5

    what dou you think of that phrase that is said by so many people that if you don't start playing very young you will never get better or actually good? I saw it in different progress videos and I don't think thats that true. You have more time to develop your skills if you start younger but that doesn't mean you can't achieve good level if you practice consistently. Greetings from Spain!

    • @sonja4186
      @sonja4186 4 месяца назад

      You saw that in a video or in a comment below the video?

    • @mauriziochirca8939
      @mauriziochirca8939 4 месяца назад

      @@sonja4186 in a comment below two videos. They are speaking about a physical barrier that only kids can surpass. Like wtf

    • @sonja4186
      @sonja4186 4 месяца назад +3

      @@mauriziochirca8939 I read those kind of remarks too. Also that you can't hear properly anymore when you're grown up🙄.
      I'm not a teacher, or a professional, but I would n't worry about it. There are some people who are for some reason really angry about adults picking up the violin. Just let them. Your teacher will know better then some random person on the internet.

    • @mauriziochirca8939
      @mauriziochirca8939 4 месяца назад

      @@sonja4186 really? Well I heard it to with different words now that I think. The fact is that the majority part of the adult beginners play violin in order to play pop music. That's probably why they think like that. Also the fact that the majority of the pro violinists learned in high level music schools focusing specially in the instrument. In other minor conservatoirs they teach you like it's more of an extracurricular activity.

    • @sonja4186
      @sonja4186 4 месяца назад

      ​@@mauriziochirca8939 I did n't know most adults want to play pop music. I thought it was mixed, I hear some mention really difficult pieces as a goal. I'm sort of an adult beginner (played as a kid, picked it up again recently) and personally I like both, classic and pop.
      And obviously proffessionals learn and know more about an instrument. You never hear professional athletes look down on amateurs😀, so why some musicians act like that I don't know 🤷

  • @ritabanerjee9103
    @ritabanerjee9103 4 месяца назад

    Inspired and enlightened by your video

  • @Ahmed-Tea
    @Ahmed-Tea 4 месяца назад +3

    This video lets me know THAT IM NOT A FAILIURE i played violin for 5 years

  • @malielanijoy
    @malielanijoy 4 месяца назад +3

    I really appreciate your insights. I just started teaching myself violin. I want to get an actual teacher and am in the process of looking for one right now. There aren't many in my area, so it's been helpful watching your videos in the meantime.

  • @CS-ly3lx
    @CS-ly3lx 4 месяца назад +3

    Please do a similar video for a child who began at five years old and is now ten. What would you consider the major milestones from five to ten years old? Would you consider violino primo of Haydn op. 99 an appropriate achievement for a ten-year-old? (She also plays in an orchestra and has been to violin camps for two consecutive years.)

    • @MurphyMusicAcademy
      @MurphyMusicAcademy  4 месяца назад +2

      Do you have videos of said child? A RUclips link?

    • @CS-ly3lx
      @CS-ly3lx 4 месяца назад

      @@MurphyMusicAcademy No, her parents and I are very cautious about exposure on social media. I read Ivan Galamian's Principles of Violin Playing and Teaching, as you recommend, and take his suggestions very seriously, because I am a violinist, but not a violin teacher teacher by trade. During the pandemic, when she wanted to learn to play the violin, all the music schools were closed. So I offered to teach her the basics and later find her a teacher. After Corona she stayed on with me and wants to continue. We both enjoy this very much. She plays the first violin in a grade-school level orchestra and got good reviews at the violin camps. I was nine when I started the violin, so I can't compare her to how I played at age ten. That's why I am looking for some suggestion of what a child her age should be able to play after five years of private lessons twice a week.

    • @Illeeegal
      @Illeeegal 3 месяца назад

      Oh god you don’t want to hear my playing from 6-10 years old! I’m still only 16 and doing ABRSM grade 8 but as it goes fairly slow progress!!!

  • @pauladaugustine3674
    @pauladaugustine3674 4 месяца назад +1

    How come at 2 years and 3 years she was playing her violin with her right hand instead of how she started out with her left hand?

    • @MurphyMusicAcademy
      @MurphyMusicAcademy  4 месяца назад +3

      @@pauladaugustine3674 she wasn’t, it’s just the camera mirror-imaging. Sometimes phone cameras will do that

  • @Dgrcsnedfs
    @Dgrcsnedfs 4 месяца назад +1

    Bro vibrato is my enemy right now. Day 2, 37 years old, never played violin before. This is def a tough instrument to master. But I'm guna keep at it for sure

    • @wannabecat369
      @wannabecat369 4 месяца назад +4

      You're lucky if VIBRATO is what you're worrying about on day 2.

    • @RagtimeAnnie-b7m
      @RagtimeAnnie-b7m 4 месяца назад

      I didn't start vibrato until 2-3 years in! Some folks start working on that sooner but give yourself some time to get more comfortable with the instrument itself. It's already a very significant step to start developing intonation and muscle memory in your left hand, with at most some simple scales and melodies. I'm so glad to see you'll be sticking with it, and I'm sure you'll absolutely get to vibrato and everything else in due time!

    • @Dgrcsnedfs
      @Dgrcsnedfs 3 месяца назад

      @@RagtimeAnnie-b7m I play guitar, piano, alto sax, drums, etc. So far I can play Cripple Creek, Country Road Take me Home, and then scales of course. But this vibrato thing. Idk if I'm pressing down too hard, not hard enough. On guitar vibrato is simple. I think my hurdle to overcome is I'm used to strumming or picking guitar and its weird to constantly run the bow up or down. Sometime my right hand wants to quiver with my left had when try to do vibrato. I mean I can do it, but can sustain it constantly. But I'll get it sooner than later. Any tips?

    • @Dgrcsnedfs
      @Dgrcsnedfs 3 месяца назад

      @@wannabecat369 music and instruments come quite easy for me. But this vibrato thing is a beast to tackle.

    • @RagtimeAnnie-b7m
      @RagtimeAnnie-b7m 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Dgrcsnedfs Nice, didn't know you were already a musician and was a bit confused lol!
      Holding the neck of a violin is similar to that of a guitar bc you need to keep your wrist relaxed and have the right position to get good leverage, etc. As for pressure, just press down the usual amount you would while playing anything else on the violin, just make sure your wrist and hand are relaxed enough.
      I can add my two cents, but perhaps my most helpful tip (which I'm sure you're already doing seeing as you're on YT) is to watch videos of different violin soloists you admire (maybe start with just one, as everyone's technique varies slightly) doing vibrato during performances, slow down the speed in settings and mimic the movement with your left hand. Also, most violinists on this platform have videos explaining vibrato and tips - there's a few different schools of thought but you'll find what works for you! For vibrato especially, I really love watching Itzhak Perlman.
      I think what makes vibrato tricky on violin is the direction of the vibrato, which is quite different from guitar. Instead of your finger rocking perpendicular to the finger board, it needs to have a parallel motion along the string. I started getting used to vibrato for the first time without the violin, just trying to get the motion into my hand. Also, you can do vibrato where the movement comes from your arm, your wrist, or just your finger for different effects. You can also develop a range of vibrato from fast to slow and from wide to narrow.

  • @RubsViolin
    @RubsViolin 4 месяца назад

    Mm I like the lighting. Very nice

  • @cindylau8797
    @cindylau8797 4 месяца назад

    I’m an adult learner. 2 years now but I’m much better than her last 5+ year progress video so if I started learning when I was a kid I would definitely be called a prodigy😂

  • @ElsweyrDiego
    @ElsweyrDiego 2 месяца назад

    Vivaldi A minor concert in 2 years? she was training 4 hours every day? this concerto is really hard to someone with 2 years only. or just if she keeps that speed and not going higher for a couple more years, so it's doable! but if she's really practsing she can really play it full speed!

  • @edwardviolahands
    @edwardviolahands 3 месяца назад

    Could you please beam this sort of realistic expectation for progress into my students’ heads? 😂

    • @MurphyMusicAcademy
      @MurphyMusicAcademy  3 месяца назад

      @@edwardviolahands you could just forward them the video 😉

  • @bryophyta9500
    @bryophyta9500 4 месяца назад

    Is grade 8 in 2 years okay?

  • @simathepotato
    @simathepotato 4 месяца назад +2

    1:52 i'm Russian, I think it's anastaSIa skripaCHEvskaya, i'm def sure in the Anastasia name

    • @MurphyMusicAcademy
      @MurphyMusicAcademy  4 месяца назад +2

      Thanks! I was close, I guess. The way people pronounce the name "Anastasia" here is "Anna-Stayzha," which I knew wasn't correct. I think we pronounce it that way because of the movie "Anastasia" lol

  • @LilCletus
    @LilCletus 3 месяца назад +1

    You can get to her 3 year level in 6 months or so if you practice every day for at least 4 hours. Source: I did it.

  • @sonja4186
    @sonja4186 4 месяца назад +1

    How come you always see violin prodigies and hardly ever for any other instruments? Except for the piano, there are some video's about that. I never see video's about kids who play the flute or the klarinet or any other instrument.

    • @ZenpaiV
      @ZenpaiV 4 месяца назад +3

      There are waaay more violinists and pianists than most other instruments. The other big ones are clarinet, cello, voice and flute. So when your sample size increases, you’re going to find more people at every level.

  • @tieppomushing
    @tieppomushing 4 месяца назад

    Personally attacked by not playing in the snow as a yooper

    • @MurphyMusicAcademy
      @MurphyMusicAcademy  4 месяца назад +1

      @@tieppomushing damn I miss the UP

    • @tieppomushing
      @tieppomushing 4 месяца назад

      @@MurphyMusicAcademy wait? Are you from here?

    • @MurphyMusicAcademy
      @MurphyMusicAcademy  4 месяца назад +1

      @@tieppomushing not a native Michigander, but I lived there for 7 years, in Ann Arbor first and then in Royal Oak. Camped in the UP in the summer. Would still be in Michigan if my wife didn’t drag me to Utah 😅

    • @tieppomushing
      @tieppomushing 4 месяца назад

      @@MurphyMusicAcademy I didn’t realize, I used to be a brewer at corner brewery in Ypsilanti. Small world :)

    • @MurphyMusicAcademy
      @MurphyMusicAcademy  4 месяца назад

      @@tieppomushing yes, I’ve been to that!

  • @churchBibleJesus
    @churchBibleJesus 3 месяца назад

    Her love me

  • @MurphyMusicAcademy
    @MurphyMusicAcademy  4 месяца назад +1

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    • @rcplumber5869
      @rcplumber5869 4 месяца назад

      I think she's a ringer -she shows me things that are advanced -she is playing the bow stick -like an advanced player.just creating hype -but play on -so go practice!!!

    • @DaisyVernice
      @DaisyVernice 4 месяца назад

      Tomplay sounds like an incredible tool! Would have loved to have had that when my children were learning the violin!

  • @laniakeadev.2271
    @laniakeadev.2271 4 месяца назад +1

    Does she learn with a techer? If no, either she's prodigy or I'm complete mediocrity, but she is 2 times ahead of me, like I'm after 5 years playing worse than she in 2 yesrs (last 6 months playing with a good teacher)
    I think there's some amount of mediocrity, at the left of the bell curve, and people like me should just accept they're just worst, and nothing would help them to reach even "below average" level to be able even to play concertos like Vivaldi and Seitz.
    I see enthusiastic people who appreciate for inspirations, but for losers like me inspiration is dangerous and makes us feel worse.

    • @muntoonxt
      @muntoonxt 3 месяца назад

      She may have: (i) spent more time on it, (ii) had a good teacher, (iii) learned more efficiently by e.g. practicing exercises or focusing on problem areas.

    • @laniakeadev.2271
      @laniakeadev.2271 3 месяца назад

      @@muntoonxt 1) I played 2-4 hours a day a couple years ago, even my teachers said it's too much. I have a good teached to, but can't do some things as fast as children can, maybe I just have low IQ (110), but sometimes she says to play some piece in a different way, I play 4-8 times in a wor without proper fix

  • @moxy4926
    @moxy4926 Месяц назад

    Well I suck