Can’t wait to see him in Ashoka. That’s the meet up I can’t wait for. At least there we have a team that’s 100% commuted to pleasing the fans rather than 50%
I do believe reeva will go capture luke and inform him about the force and how it effects ppl negatively and how his birth father becomes a sith and how obi wan failed him and to steer clear of becoming a jedi which makes luke more curious about his birth father and more curious about becoming a jedi like in the 4th movie a new hope or she might attempt to kill him to exact revenge on obi wan for failing anikan or to exact revenge vader for killing the younglings which is unlikely bcs vader doesnt know about his kids yet
Obi Wan trying to negotiate with Reva reminded me of General Grievous saying: "Ahh, the negotiator!" It was one of Kenobi's skills to stall time and get people on his side by talking.
No matter what we fans all think of the series as a whole, we should be as loud as possible about how much we love Hayden and Ewan’s performances! This is what we want, this is the kind of thing that can unite the fandom.
Nope. Most true fans are attached to the characters, not the actors who play them. This series is a disgrace and the actors are sell outs for willingly participating in it.
To me it shows more how weak she was compared to him because it’s more his suit and his prosthetics that slow him down as we can see with palpatine and count dooku with the dark side being fast at old age is no problem
@@MLife1000 you know, a lot of people don't listen to the dialog, but they should! Because it's not just a Star Wars show, it's a statement about how your past never really leaves you! Hey Paul!
Ugh those flashbacks… I hope Hayden realizes just how much the fans appreciate him coming back for this. Total chills and nostalgia. Childhood self is double thumbs up nodding in approval.
Vader is my favorite villain ever. Every time someone tries to fight him and he so effortlessly tosses them aside is honestly some of the coolest Star Wars I'll ever watch.
You've hit on the problem every Star Wars has had since the original trilogy -- lack of a plausible villain. The first sequel trilogy almost got there until Kylo Ren took his helmet off and decided he was a boy band member
Would have been dope if he actually killed her.. how did she survive the youngling massacre & a Vader duel ? I don’t get that and it doesn’t make sense.. people are saying they left her there to die but didn’t he do that at the Jedi temple ? He knows who she is so he must know he didn’t kill her before why give her a chance to rebel with Obi - Wan idk … The ✍🏾 is dumb the ( action, callbacks & flashbacks are holding this series on its back )
@@dankchewy2699 in order to enjoy Star Wars anymore, you have to ignore the continuity errors that have been baked in since Darth Vader told Luke he was his father (despite previous dialogue that absolutely cannot be squared with that fact)
@@bucksdiaryfan how do you define a “plausible” villain? Because of course Vader is a badass, he’s just egotistical, aggressive, obsessive and presumptuous. IMO that’s just a blank slate for flaws to be written in. Unless you think it’s arbitrary to write good villains as forward thinking and infallibly evil, Vader is not even top 5 most “plausible” villains in Star Wars cannon lol
We gotta remember that Anakin was a padawan and knight throughout the clone wars. he was trained during an era of soldiers not during an era of peacekeepers, like the counsel was. His generation of jedi was more aggressively trained and tested than previous,I think. Galactic civil war has a way of hardening a person, and rewarding a more aggressive style
I agree with all of that... he chose that aggressive style before the clone wars though. But yeah I mean, I still agree it reinforced it and his mentality
Seeing Hayden’s smirk one last time as Anakin was just so fulfilling. As for the lack of deepfake de-aging, perhaps it wasn’t done because we are seeing these memories through the eyes of Vader who cannot remember being a young anakin
“Mercy doesn’t defeat an enemy, master.” Two things. One, Anakin, your Vader is showing. Two, I loved that line! Hayden sounded just as he did during AOTC. I don’t know how but he did. The role came so natural to him. I’ve really missed seeing him as Anakin. I grew up with the Prequels and have always loved them.
I actually didn’t like that line. He’s always been aggressive but he has always been aligned eith the Jedi code. I cant see him saying this before AOTC.
Nobody gonna talk about how Hayden absolutely nailed the voice of Anakin in the flashbacks?! Sounded identical, that was one of the things I was worried about but he nailed it, chills!
because they are professional actors that do their best with what they give them... but specially Anakin looks way older and that alone takes you out of an otherwise great scene... its all what fans wanted and they made is look so cheap
@@zevivas i disagree so much! People always find a way to complain.. i can’t believe you got taken out from a scene by 4-5 wrinkles in his face. His voice, attitude and movements were so prefect
@@KangaZune Roque one was cool, don’t get me wrong. However, it’s definitely not the same as we see now. This Vader is so much more terrifying because he still sometimes loses his calm, which he rarely ever does by the time Roque One happens.
This episode was definitely a massive win. Almost 20 years on, Ewan and Hayden can still bring it (and I'm not just talking about the duelling). Great stuff, can't wait to see the finale.
@@Glitchedluke exactly!! The fact Lucas surrounded himself with yesman just shows with the dialogue and direction the prequels went. (Don't get it twisted I grew up with the prequels and love them) Hayden being given actual good dialogue and direction shows how good of an actor he is. He felt more natural not as forced as Anakin did in the prequels.
It was cool, it was just weird to me that in the time they used to set up that transport vehicle...why not just have escaped. Like "hey, lets wait here until Vader comes in and then send up this dummy ship and then leave after." like huh?
Yeah why did they keep showing that? I mean once or so is cool to get the point across he's broke...but I thought it was gonna lead up to him getting caught or something
I absolutely love how they portrayed Vader's fighting style in this episode. It is so accurate. Because of his suit, Vader is not as flexible as he once was, which limits his abilities to fight with his lightsaber. So what does he do? He quite literally masters the use of the Force to help him when he has to fight, as well as also still being incredible with a lightsaber. This episode perfectly depicts just how powerful Vader is with not only his lightsaber, but also using the Force.
@@absurdtrickster9074 george lucas isn't the most consistent writer either lmaooo. it's only now after decades and decades of added lore and even further characterization of both anakin and vader that we've realized "huh. vader should be a lot more powerful, shouldn't he?" and now we have the technology and film technicality to see it come to life.
I would also like to point out Anakin also does the aggressive downwards attack on Barriss's lightsaber when fighting her in the temple after he found out she was the traitor that framed Ahsoka.
The de-aging didn’t really bother me tbh. I’m just happy to see Hayden in the flesh. Still no Qui Gon though, I’m guessing he will speak to Kenobi just before the last duel. Definitely a W here, but we needed this style from the second episode on. Not the second to last.
They better not break the canon by showing qui Gon as a force ghost just as fan service. Qui Gon was not a force god fully, he only knew how to communicate through the force, not actually appear
Alas Lord Vader will never reach his potential with the dark side. The fact he needs the suit to live will always mean he can never channel the raw dark side energy as lightning. He's a powerhouse for sure, and I loved the fact he was agile and his movement was great even with the suit...but alas he is broken. Will never equal Palpatine for sheer darkside power and skill.
They genuinely might not have de-aged him as much because they didn't want to mess with Haydens authenticity in the first time we see him as Anakin in years. Even though he was old it really felt like him. If he was all Cg'd it might have felt really plastic and not as satisfying. That's the reason I like anyway
I don’t think that Disney thought that much into it at all honestly. Just another mistake of theirs. It is what it is. Great scenes & episode though never the less.
De-aging is really advanced at this point though and barely noticable especially when you have the real actor as a base and Disney money. Luke in BoBF was uncanny and that wasn’t even Mark Hamill. It was great seeing Hayden as Anakin but it did break my immersion somewhat seeing him significantly older than he should be.
If they had did too much CGI I would have not been as emotional as I was. I think they did a good job maintaining some of Hayden's features. It's the significance of the fight that matters.
I didn’t mind Anakin and Obi-Wan looking a bit older in the flashbacks. I can picture them both from episode 2 because the movies are ingrained in memory, so I can tell the difference. The de-aging effect can sometimes make the characters look a little funky which throws it off. So keeping Anakin and Obi-Wan looking more like their present self was a nice touch, in my opinion. Great episode of Kenobi!
Absolute chills when Vader pulled the ship down and how easily he ripped it apart. They're finally showing his true power and I'm loving it. Fingers crossed they go all out for the finale
@@oXRaptorzXo no it most certainly was not lol. The one transport they had was very clearly in the very center of the hangar with absolutely no room for another one anywhere. And if they had a second hangar, they wouldn't have made such a fuss over this hangars doors being held shut lmfao. The whole show is such a shit show of these stupid, mindless mistakes and decisions
Imagine if each episode were like this, a lesson taught with a series of flashbacks to them training in different settings, that Anakin had still failed to learn
That motif is used in a lot of media today and I think it would probably get on some peoples nerves to see it coming up again in their Star Wars stories.
Gonna cry and try to defend these facts snowflake? 😘🤣. George Lucas clearly said obi-wan and anakin never saw each other and absolutely never fought each other between the time of anakin’s injury on mustafar during the revenge of the sith and their rematch on the Death Star in a new hope. This is straight from the guy who made the entire methos. If he said it didn’t happen, then it didn’t happen. This is just Disney running out of idea’s having to keep bring the past back and ruining Star Wars just to make a quick buck but only the uneducated Star Wars fan will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣.
One of my favorite things about this episode is how you can see clearly that Hayden watched all of TCW. He’s not merely channeling his AOTC performance, he’s going further and channeling Matt Lanter, and he’s doing it while delivering his lines so much better than he did in AOTC (and I love the prequels, there is no shade in that at all). For the first time today I felt like Prequels Anakin and Clone Wars Anakin merged into one entity on screen, and all done so well with just a few lines. Kudos to Hayden for his performance here. He absolutely knocked it out of the park.
@@myka4337 yea but it's a bit unfair to expect us to know her backstory and motives right away in. This is a TV show and you needed time to get there. A lot of fans already suspected she was the youngling in the first episode. Finding out she actually wants to kill Vader needed the build up and it pays off in this episode. I don't know. I think part of the fanbase is too quick to hate on things. Glad people enjoyed this episode as much as I did.
I Absolutely adored this episode, Vader grabbing that ship was absolutely magnificent, the excited sounds u made on the watch party sum it up perfectly, And him not even using his own lightsaber against Reva...absolute power move
@@BuscaLoEsencial I don’t think force sensitives sensing each other is like some perfect radar where they know exactly where each other is. I’m pretty sure he just sensed the general defection Kenobi was in, which was the same direction the false fleeing transport was, so Vader would think Kenobi and the other refugees were in there.
I actually kind of appreciate how they didn’t do too much de aging, as I think it looks kinda weird. Obviously Hayden and Ewan don’t look exactly the same as they did in episode 2 but I think the makeup job was convincing enough
Gonna cry and try to defend these facts snowflake? 😘🤣. George Lucas clearly said obi-wan and anakin never saw each other and absolutely never fought each other between the time of anakin’s injury on mustafar during the revenge of the sith and their rematch on the Death Star in a new hope. This is straight from the guy who made the entire methos. If he said it didn’t happen, then it didn’t happen. This is just Disney running out of idea’s having to keep bring the past back and ruining Star Wars just to make a quick buck but only the uneducated Star Wars fan will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣.
That was cool, and also how he splits the lightsaber and challenged Reva to a duel that she was never gonna win. Every aspect of this episode was better than the last 3 episodes
@@nightryder21 No we can go that far. He is criminally underrated as an actor, not many people see his great acting power. And he is just the most perfect vader.
I think the placement of Obi-Wan's line "until then, a padawan you will still be" could show that Vader is still not quite past his hotheadedness, and is going to lose his fight in the finale because he still hasn't learned his lesson. That would tie in with the line from A New Hope pretty nicely, as Vader is still the learner and will need to learn one final lesson in his duel next week to become the master.
Gonna cry and try to defend these facts snowflake? 😘🤣. George Lucas clearly said obi-wan and anakin never saw each other and absolutely never fought each other between the time of anakin’s injury on mustafar during the revenge of the sith and their rematch on the Death Star in a new hope. This is straight from the guy who made the entire methos. If he said it didn’t happen, then it didn’t happen. This is just Disney running out of idea’s having to keep bring the past back and ruining Star Wars just to make a quick buck but only the uneducated Star Wars fan will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣.
IMO, great duel but not needed for Learner/Master thing, actually they should've put this epic duel before the ep.5 events. He learned his final lesson in EP.5 when gets tricked and defeated not physically, but mentally again by Obi-Wan and for that surprise defeat, he *lefts* him. Just a minute later, he effortessly plays with Reva, not just straight murdering her like he normally do. He thinks similiar like Kenobi and I think this completes his Learner/Master story arc.
The scene where Vader was just toying with Reva just reminded me of the time Ventress tried to fight yoda and yoda just trolled her be stealing her lightsabers and gave them back moments after.
@Jaimie Ruiz Your knowledge is probably from playing For Honor, or watching sword fighting porn if you get my drift. If you are the smaller opponent, way smaller, with a smaller blade, and have something like the force, why would you stay in one spot, he would be slower, easier to hit, and unable to get a hit. You have to apply the force into this too. Still, yes its like a fairy ballerina, that is undeniable, but what is wrong with that, not close to enough to your anime?
I liked how during the training scenes, you could see a certain almost evil expression on Hayden's face. You could see Vader brewing within him even then. I feel like the direction of this series really showcases his talent as an actor.
Makes me wish the writer who did 5 did the rest of the episodes as well. At least the writers of the less well-done episodes didn't write the whole series.
This episode was amazing. I took the lack of de-aging as homage to the actors, and us 90s kids that grew up with along them. Getting to see them as they are today was cool.
@@CookiesBricks For our age perhaps we are between trilogies. I enjoy the prequels but if you don't that's ok man. We all like different things. Peace.
The duel between reva and vader was amazing! It truly shows that anakin is still there behind that suit! Or at least the same vader in revenge of the sith. How he has a lightsaber on his side but simply choosing to show off by throwing her around with the force instead. And once he turns the fight into a 1 vs 1 you can tell that he is not even trying. Just showing how little effort he needs to beat her and how ultimately weak she is compared to him. The whole thing feels like a bridge between anakin/vader from rots and vader from the empire strikes back! I know it’s different from earlier canon and legends but I think it’s a good bridge! The only thing that I would say is that if they wanted this kind of vader then the show should have taken place sooner like 3 or 5 years after instead of 10. like before fallen order. Thank you for coming to my ted talk!
@@richardcastillos2896 I agree! I think they should have Changed the story! Instead of having obi wan going to save leia they could have a story of obi wan hearing from the inquisitors that there are rumors of Jedi rebels hidden on Tatooine and other planets near It. and they have been looking for one going by the code name fulcrum, which there are many stated by ahsoka in rebels. and obi wan would assume it is ahsoka looking for him. Obi wan knowing this would leave Tatooine going to a near planet in hopes of finding ahsoka before the inquisitors do. But instead of finding ahsoka obi wan would get caught looking for someone using the code name fulcrum. And I guess the story would have to start at around here! It’s not perfect but I think it gets the job done.
@@doitallyt7431 Its a good story, my story at least what I thought of Kenobi show before the inquisitors and Vader, was a normal story about kenobi in tatooine making his way in the force to talk to Quigon and also he could have as antagonist a jedi tusken helping rage tusken(Like in the expand universe that fought Obi wan during his exile)
I got so emotional during the last flashback scene where Hayden looked so defeated and frustrated with himself. It was SO SO GOOD to see these flashbacks and I thought they were done so well.
I just love how Obi-Wan has this "lose the battle, win the war" kinda mentality. Also, when u mentioned the mimic of the fight and their stance to RoTJ, I think Vader couldve remembered the fight they had while he was defeated by Luke and that couldve also pushed him more to the light again. Overall I just love how they tied everything together
Yes and if they would have killed her off her character would have been glorious but now it will revert back to not so great. She should be dead. They killed the wrong woman in this episode.
This definitely did a lot for her. I kinda figured she was one of the younglings... it was obvious... but the twist was nice and they actually made her sympathetic.
loved the episode. I IMMEDIATELY could tell the writing and pacing was different. It was without a doubt what I expected of the series, I'm just sad that not every episode was this good and how this is the semi last episode. I hope the last episode we see more of Anakin and Ben, because honestly half of the times they feel like guest characters in their own show.
Yes it was the best episode, but still had a lot of stupid stuff in it. Like how they used the cannon to break the door in stead of Reva just slicing it open. Stuff like that just takes away the moments that are good.
Gonna cry and try to defend these facts snowflake? 😘🤣. George Lucas clearly said obi-wan and anakin never saw each other and absolutely never fought each other between the time of anakin’s injury on mustafar during the revenge of the sith and their rematch on the Death Star in a new hope. This is straight from the guy who made the entire methos. If he said it didn’t happen, then it didn’t happen. This is just Disney running out of idea’s having to keep bring the past back and ruining Star Wars just to make a quick buck but only the uneducated Star Wars fan will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣.
@@szyszus4683 But how could she act dead when he was staring her right in the face. She was just standing there. I mean, its not impossible that anakin stabbed her, and she was alive but acting dead, cuz aint no way anakin didn't see her staring him in the face
This episode alone was better than the sequels... the scene where Vader was stopping the ship from taking off and then ripping it apart sent chills down my spine it was so amazing
You know, after this, I'm really liking Reva conceptually - she might not be EXTRODINARILY well written (better than a lot of other characters Disney's given us), but she's a great physical manifestation of Obi-Wan's guilt and shame over the loss of Anakin.
I just want to add, tho she can be annoying, that is actually a really good sign for the job of the actress of hers, Moses Ingram. The ability to bring emotions to people is the sign of a good job on part of the actor or actress, just like with Jack Gleeson in Game of Thrones, only through his amazing job was Joffrey so hateable. That being sad, i do agree that Reva is no written amazingly, but she now she does have a very understandable motivation und way to feel the way she feels. These thoughts of Obi Wan failing the whole Jedi Order and being responsible for the death of her adopted family not only does hold quite the weight, she had over ten years festering in these thoughts and hatred every time she closed her eyes and probably a very big portion of her waking hours too. And she would have seen or heard about Vader probably quite frequently, so to be confronted again and again and again with your tormentor, that will only have fueled that fire. I quite like her as more of a tragic villain, i did not hate her before, but this background does very much for me elevate her until then somewhat lackluster motivation.
How is she not written well? She is written fine alot better than some other characters In star wars. People literally just hate her to hate her and give lame surface level reasons as to why. First they said she was too evil as an inquisitor (which is fucking retarded because inquisitors ARE EVIL") next they are saying she doesn't show emotion which is dumb because yeah she does shes a good actress. People just want the stereotypical mustache twirling villains that star wars usually gives us so when they see an actual well written character they thinks is bad writing 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I for one am super happy with the limited de-aging they did. I want to see the actors not CGI. I can imagine them being younger, and what is a good show or movie without a little imagination? I think it was perfectly done.
Gonna cry and try to defend these facts snowflake? 😘🤣. George Lucas clearly said obi-wan and anakin never saw each other and absolutely never fought each other between the time of anakin’s injury on mustafar during the revenge of the sith and their rematch on the Death Star in a new hope. This is straight from the guy who made the entire methos. If he said it didn’t happen, then it didn’t happen. This is just Disney running out of idea’s having to keep bring the past back and ruining Star Wars just to make a quick buck but only the uneducated Star Wars fan will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣.
This entire episode blew me away. I've already enjoyed this series far more than the internet thinks I should, but the quality between ep5 and ep4 is night and day. This is some of the coolest SW content I've seen since 1980.
"far more that the Internet thinks I should". I've been feeling the exact same way. I've personally really enjoyed this show so far, the only episode I didn't like so much was ep 4, and even that had cool moments. It disappointed me not as many people were sharing my enthusiasm, I understand their critisims but I feel like this time the critisims are usually nitpicky. Like their all minor problems that we've seen over and over again in star wars. Like this epsidoe has literally better acting, better storytelling, better effects and better cinematography than aotc or rots! And I truly believe that. They only win over on superior music.
@@seantoner7392 definitely agree. It seems like the people can’t differentiate this from the Trilogy and just assume the worse. This isn’t a ground breaking series but people act as if it’s the trilogy all over again. It isn’t.
Only star wars fans complain. Like with Reva, almost everyone hated her how to fuck she knows Vader true identity and that she "killed" Grand inquisitor. And it was second episode and they wanted immediately answers 😂😂 bruh. It was obvious that we are going to see, why she knows that. Some people are just dumb but in this case lots of star wars fans are dumb 😂😂. And they have to find out everything immediately. It's series not movie. It has chapters. I can't.🤦♀️😂
More of a demonstration of superiority lol the futile attempt Reva thought she had was seen by Vader long before she had even attempted it by calling her youngling. A shame for sure she could have been a useful ally but hey, it's Vader baby. 😎
@@barrymcockinner4005 i read somewhere that the intensity of the blade can be adjusted and when Jedi spar with each other they make it low enough so it doesn't cause any real damage, I might be wrong tho
The best part is that Obi Wan is becoming Obi Wan again and leaving Ben to the side. The way he took command of the defense made me say say to myself "General Kenobi, you are a bold one."
Gonna cry and try to defend these facts snowflake? 😘🤣. George Lucas clearly said obi-wan and anakin never saw each other and absolutely never fought each other between the time of anakin’s injury on mustafar during the revenge of the sith and their rematch on the Death Star in a new hope. This is straight from the guy who made the entire methos. If he said it didn’t happen, then it didn’t happen. This is just Disney running out of idea’s having to keep bring the past back and ruining Star Wars just to make a quick buck but only the uneducated Star Wars fan will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣.
I actually think if we got this earlier in the series it wouldn’t be as impactful. This episode was just non stop excitement and payoff. Watching Vader show his powers and still lose to Kenobi with his mind (As Theory predicted) was special.
Honestly, limited series like this are usually best viewed all at once. Like one big movie, but the fact it's been a weekly release has stunted it in certain aspects.
@@Stuwi I disagree with the idea that past episodes were garbage on a couple of levels. 1. If we didn’t see Kenobi at at his lowest and going through his rust and self loathing and learning to live with his mistakes instead of “forgetting” or letting them control him… the episode would be less impactful. Seeing him cower and hide and run from Vader in the first meeting was important. 2. We now see and understand why Reva’s character was so hated by the rest of the inquisitors and how she knew Anakin was Vader. The “Oh Shit you were there” moment between her and Kenobi was awesome… as was Vader revealing he remembered her. 3. I actually enjoyed learning about the new empire control. I get some fans wanted only Anakin and Obi Wan… but that’s extremely limited in terms of story telling. We got to see Obi Wan go through his trauma, regain hope and even platonic love through Leia… I think each episode had a theme or overarching point. Did some of them drag on a bit to get there? sure. Is Leia the world’s fastest child? Apparently. I enjoyed them though. My biggest complaint is I wish it had all just been released at once.
@@Kenimiro bruh what? I didnt say any of that I just agreed with you saying this episode wouldnt be as impactful if it was earlier and that is purely because the viewers were tired and this decent episode felt very good, even better than it actually is. I didnt say the episodes were garbage because 'not enough obi wan vs vader" , it was the ridiculous writing, poor acting by Reva and very boring cinematography and NOT ENOUGH of the things you said. I wanted to see more of Kenobi being depressed and finding his path to redemption, not 4 episodes of saving private leia
@@Stuwi Sorry- I should have led with I disagree with the episodes being garbage. I thought they did a lot to establish the points I made above. I’ll edit the comment for readability. I still don’t agree though. I think there is a very limited list of reasons why Obi Wan would leave Luke. I also think this is the best depiction of Vader’s force abilities and skill that we have ever seen in live action. I thought this episode as a standalone was comparable to Luke’s first appearance in the Mandalorian. We can agree to disagree though.
Gonna cry and try to defend these facts snowflake? 😘🤣. George Lucas clearly said obi-wan and anakin never saw each other and absolutely never fought each other between the time of anakin’s injury on mustafar during the revenge of the sith and their rematch on the Death Star in a new hope. This is straight from the guy who made the entire methos. If he said it didn’t happen, then it didn’t happen. This is just Disney running out of idea’s having to keep bring the past back and ruining Star Wars just to make a quick buck but only the uneducated Star Wars fan will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣.
1. I liked how they used the negotiate line, as a call back to when Grievous called him “The Negotiator” 2. Obi-Wan “surrendering” reminded me of Christophsis from the Clone Wars movie when he surrendered and started talking with the Separatist general
Pls anakin isn’t shit, obi wan fought prime maul and dooku, and maul and savage at the same time. Anakin was never the better dueler than kenobi. Revenge of the sith showed it. They watered down kenobi in this series to please the Vader but kissers lol
@@samueletim3666 Anakin was clearly overpowering Obi-Wan in ROTS and only won because the high ground. If the fight went on longer, Obi Wan would have lost because of how exhausted he was.
Gonna cry and try to defend these facts snowflake? 😘🤣. George Lucas clearly said obi-wan and anakin never saw each other and absolutely never fought each other between the time of anakin’s injury on mustafar during the revenge of the sith and their rematch on the Death Star in a new hope. This is straight from the guy who made the entire methos. If he said it didn’t happen, then it didn’t happen. This is just Disney running out of idea’s having to keep bring the past back and ruining Star Wars just to make a quick buck but only the uneducated Star Wars fan will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣.
This episode had just about EVERYTHING I've wanted from this series. The flashbacks, man. I was a kid again, grinning like a child. De-aging Hayden and Ewan would seem unnecessary to me. They looked so good even in their older age. Vader's sheer presence and power with the Force, bringing me back to the Force Unleashed. Finally we get to see what the Force can do.
The episode was so rewarding because the show took its time to develop the characters and story to build up to the moment. Too many diehard nerds wanted to get the cake before the meat. They complained Kenobi was disillusioned, weak and not himself. Well of course not after what he went through, and he was trying to stay hidden under the radar. He’s not going to be a well oiled Jedi. And he didn’t know Vader was alive. There was nothing in ROTS to indicate he would. What he said in the original trilogy was with the knowledge he’s gaining now. That whole outrage was stupid. Hating on 3rd Sister was premature. We were supposed to hate her. We weren’t supposed to have sympathy or anything toward her - that’s what they saved this episode for. I don’t understand why everyone wants everything from the first or even first few episodes. The great payoff is what’s missing in a lot of shows and movies today because annoying audiences don’t have the patience for it. They’re a spoiled on instant gratification Marvel style. That’s why we got Super Rey in Force Awakens. End of rant.
“The light will fade but is never forgotten ‘ is the writing on the wall under the Jedi symbol . I Loved seeing the flashbacks and How powerful Vader is . Can’t wait for next week
This was the most perfect 40 minutes of Star Wars I have ever witnessed. Music, the lightsaber duels, the massive leap in story and character progression. I can't believe this is the same show as Episode 4 escape escapades.
@@valetudo1569 Well everything Disney have ever done with Star Wars have been woke bullshit and bait and switch just watch Ryan Kinel's videos for example
This episode was amazing! The flashback was outstanding. I loved seeing Hayden again. He and Ewan didn’t miss a beat. Even Hayden looking older didn’t even register. Also seeing Vader go beast mode on the ship and toy with Reva was outstanding. And the way the flashback coincided with the whole episode was a master stroke. I felt like I was a kid again watching Attack of the Clones, and seeing Vader so powerful made me feel like a kid watching Empire strikes back. This episode is a huge huge win.
i loved how that flashback scene complimented the conversation he was having with padme about being held back in episode 2. that could be the major moment he was referring to in that conversation. at least in part as he probably felt that about lots of things.
This made me gain hope for Reva’s character, because she isn’t some evil character that turns good for cliche’s sake, she’s still evil and harbors hatred towards both anakin and obi-wan, enough hatred to keep herself alive to kill vader (try lol) and ruin kenobi’s mission on Tatooine. She’s willing to do bad things to anyone to have her revenge (anakin for Order 66 and Kenobi for failing)
I thought it was interesting how Vader could beat Riva easily since he trained the inquisitors himself and could practically predict Riva’s moves and attacks; its also funny how Vader messes with her since her lightsaber tactics/attacks were limited due to the inquisitors’ limited training.
I dont see many people mentioning flashback Hayden taking inspiration from Matt Lanter's performance in TCW, felt like his character was kind of a blend between the two and I loved it! I feel like Hayden absolutely watched TCW and nailed this performance!
The look on Anakin's face after the short lecture from Obi-Wan hit me right in the feels. He looks emotionally wounded somehow - imagine the look of a child who thought he'd done a good thing, only to be scolded by a parent. It breaks my heart a little, but it's as it always was: Obi-Wan meant well and was qualified as a teacher, but he missed the mark somehow when it came to actually delivering it to Anakin. I see how Anakin could've seen Kenobi as holding him back.
I think Vader was referring to Reva. When he states “it’s not them we need to break”. Since he already knew she was one of the younglings and the grand inquisitor told him how she betrayed him.
If he meant Reva then I wonder why Vader chose this exact situation to give up Reva, and what he had to gain from it. If the hyperdrive didn't conveniently break down, they would have completely lost the group including Kenobi for good again.
People seem to forget that although YES vader is going after Ben he and the Grand Inquisitor are obviously looking for the PATH. It has evaded the empire of 10 years a hidden pathway to smuggle former jedi and forced sensitive away from the empire. Kind of a big fucking deal when basically for the last 10 years that's what they have been doing.
I think this was the perfect time for flashbacks. They served a purpose for the episode’s story and weren’t simply added for fan service sake. My *guess* is that many of us were expecting flashbacks and because of that they seemed to come to late - but considering the take of someone outside the hardcore SW fan bubble, they worked well IMO.
I think some of the weird pacing has to do with this was originally planned as a film. I think some of the issues discussed wouldn’t quite feel so weird if this was abbreviated into one sitting.
@@luttren No CGI at all in the de-aging actually, just the hair and the costume is so perfect that it almost looks like there was de-aging work on the flashback sequences
It seemed to almost directly address several things that you had specifically brought up I really liked how Kenobi really went Kenobi...trying to talk things out, tricksy surrendering, talking people into things, and doing one last little switcheroo trick at the end. And Vader being the Vader we've always wanted to see in the old days
Definitely the best episode imo. It gave me everything i wanted: vader being a badass, flashbacks with Hayden, reva's backstory (obvious yes but still nice to hear), and the grand inquisitor returning. Also that "fight" between vader and reva was SOOOOOOO satisfying
It felt fan servicey. I don't know about you, but I had an easy time predicting many of the plot points of this episode, at least 5-10 minutes before they happen. It felt really cookie cutter. As soon as the creators are concerned about the meaningless details of the escape, it focuses on the wrong aspects of Star Wars. The Leia part of the escape felt very Disneyfied once again. Kenobi was really out of place for a lot of the episode. In one scene, he's holding his saber to protect all the civilians. In the next scene, he's running ahead of everyone, and it gets Cpt. Tala and the droid killed. Cpt. Tala's death felt so unimportant she wasn't really even a strong character besides to progress the plot conveniently. We don't really connect with her much. Reva could have sliced open the doors with her saber when they began sieging the front door to their hideout instead of shooting it with a giant cannon that does nothing. I don't know. This episode was entirely uncreative. Vader could have gone down there, torn the whole place apart, and massacred everyone again like Rogue One. For some reason, he sends the new "Grand Inquisitor," whom I doubt he trusts, given that we understand at the end of the episode that he knows Reva was from the temple.
@@retagainez don’t want to break it in to you. But Star Wars is and will always be a kids based movie/ series that is also very enjoyable for adults. Star Wars had never had a very complex and deep writing style.
@@hoineenietjij3331 What do you mean? I'm speaking about the plot of the show. Star Wars has always had complex plot points. One of those would be Luke discovering who his father truly is! Star Wars is a space opera. There should be touching moments like that, but I didn't feel any of those in this show.
@@retagainez episode 5 had prob. one The best writing we ever had in Star Wars. The flashbacks had actually a deep meaning into this episode and you can still see Darth Vader is still the learner. Writing wise I would call it a 9/10, how it was performed 7,8/10. Of course Star Wars had Some Nice plot holes but it never had really deep writing. It was always very easy to follow and you don’t have to keep focus to understand the story behind the movies.
The Aurebesh above the Jedi symbol says "be with you". Directly to the left of that, it says "Corwin Shelvay", probably a name. The tiny letters under the Jedi symbol are hard to read, but from what I can see, they say "the light fades but is never forgotten". The triangle is Aurebesh for our X, so the two big letters are "XF". The two lines above and to the left of the symbol say "may the force be with you". In the first shot at 5:32, the sentence in the top left says "there is no death", hinting at the Jedi code which says "There is no death, there is the Force". edit: yes i can read aurebesh pretty fluently
The sparring throwback was really fun to watch and extremely well done for a tv show. Glad they didn’t go the de-aging route. Hayden looked great and really kept form. Awesome watch!
sometimes I really like to think of it as them being under 4k resolution especially since we're in a new era of cinema now that we have cameras being able to finally capture smooth movements while also keeping such a crisp quality rather than thinking damn they've aged quite a bit hahah
In the end, I'm not really concerned about that stuff. They're not gonna look exactly how they should no matter what. Had this been a film, they'd probably go to the trouble, but I don't think it really detracts from it. It still feels like them at that point in time. The emotion and movement, the dialogue, their chemistry is still on point.
@@Stevenwave- Agreed, how they look is the least important in these flashbacks. Ewan looks so much like he did in the prequels, it's uncanny. It would have been good if they'd been able to de-age Hayden better since, while he still looks and moves very well, facially he does show some aging. It doesn't spoil anything for me, though. I love these flashbacks!
I wonder what this show could’ve been if throughout the season we had two separate stories going at the same. Flashbacks to them doing shenanigans back in the clone wars with conversations/events that foreshadow the present.
Arrow did this well at times, particularly early on. And it seems the way it was depicted here, and probably will lead to how things end in this show, feels similar.
i said the same thing. we NEED to have Anakin and Obi flashbacks, not just because i want more Hayden screen time, but it would really drive home the point that this is OBI-WAN'S story
I think Reva realized that "the boy" mentioned could be Anakin's or at least related to him, and so in order to exact revenge on Anakin for killing "her family" she's planning on going to Tatooine to kill his.
@@CrackerKilla yes, an amazingly strong desire for revenge that burns so brightly that he's completely content leaving her alive and not finishing the job so that she can come back the exact same way he just did.
The thing that surprised me the most about this episode (beside it opening with Hayden looking out across the Coruscant skyline and bringing a tear of joy to my eye) is that it made me sympathise with Reva and actually like her as a character. It fixed a lot of the confusing things about her, we all wondered how she knows that Anakin is Vader - that she was a youngling that actually saw him in the temple during order 66 is a really cool way of showing that. We also wondered why she's been allowed to get away with things Vader wouldn't hesitate to kill others for - and of course all this time she's felt like she's the mastermind fooling every one, but nope, Vader and the GI knew she was up to something and were just using her to get to Kenobi. She kind of reminds me of Ventress, she's good at heart but had a rough go of it and is now forced to serve a Sith Lord who she despises, I kind of hope she survives for a while and helps the rebels, but I think Obi-Wan is going to be forced to kill her to protect Luke. Also, Obi-Wan doing his classic Clone Wars false surrender negotiation tactics was amazing.
I wouldn't go so far as to say Reva's likeable now. She cut off some random villager's hand out of sheer spite, and was ready to torture a child. Sympathetic past or not, she's too far gone. If she somehow managed to kill Vader, she'd gladly take his place.
"Fixed" It's called a story bro, you wait to see how it plays out instead of the SW fandom screaming after each episode how this and that didn't make sense and jumped to conclusions about breaking canon and blah blah blah.
@@LydiaIsSweet Yeah okay I worded that wrong there, I was actually going to say something about being patient but, to be fair, they have let us down frequently in the past few years when we've shown that patience and believed it's going to work out, so it's not like it's unreasonable to be concerned when certain things aren't adding up.
Maaaan I almost cried when the flashbacks came. I looooved that lesson and just seeing the knowledge Kenobi had as a master. And Hayden omg what a fantastic job he did portraying clearly the issues Anakin had and how they formed while they trained.
The scene with Obi-Wan and Anakin was priceless just like the scene of young Luke and Leia in The Rise of Skywalker. Just like the fight scene between Mando and Ahsoka these scenes revisits battles in the history of Star Wars. The hallway battle was awesome.
@@Inebriated_Goat The deal is with Disney they need to find writers who understand the. For example, little Leia. They over did it with her character on her learning how to rig a door and Reva her character needs to fleshed out, to much potential in that character. I have seen the attacks from Disney employees, it needs to stop.
"She's a Skywalker, like Anakin at age 9... basically like human gods" Considering this lineage was born from the will of the Force, I agree. The Skywalkers are gods.
Anyone else think Obi Wan was giving heavy Darth Sidious vibes with Reva? He knew he’d sway her, he also knew she stood literally no chance against Vader… but yet he still twisted her mind to move her plans up by probably a good 5 years. Quite chilling when you break it down. Yes I know she’s too far gone now for Obi to save, but she was taken to them very young and was swayed out of fear, not loyalty.
I don't think the flashback necessarily confirms Anakin stabs reva at all. It can simply be interpreted as being her pov in that moment, in her mind equating her current situation with the one during order 66 and seeing vader as anakin and herself as her younger self, it doesn't necessarily mean that the "flashback" is 1 to 1 of what happened
The parallels in this episode were amazing. Even Reva vs Vader somewhat mirrored Anakin vs Obi Wan. He defeated Reva and disarmed her without his weapon just like Obi Wan did to him.
Oh! I just realized something! I think somewhere in the comics it mentions vader hates double blades right?! Remember how he split reva’s saber in two and then gave the other half to her? Kinda like saying “if you wanna try and kill me, do it better”
I love how Hayden and Ewan were not de-aged during the duel. This was such a beautiful episode, I love how this compares anakin in episode 2 to Vader. I love how Anakin's bashing of the lightsaber while Obi is on the ground complements the fight in episode 3 of Obi wan and Luke Vs Vader in ep6. This episode was very well done and is one of the best episodes produced by Disney. I hope Lucas is proud of this
I didn't. All believability went out the window. I'm sure they didn't deep fake or de-age for budget purposes, and because of that I couldn't get wrapped up in the flash back.
@@georgemoney6893 different strokes, different folks. I just felt if this was supposed to be a flashback, then don't show us a 40 year old Anakin and expect us to believe he is a 20 year old Anakin just because you gave him a Padawan pony tail.
@@kingdomcitizenship5613 It’s really not that big of a deal, I actually prefer seeing them without the de-age as it looks more natural. Just be happy they weren’t recasted
This was the best episode, hands down, and has gone a long way in redeeming the issues with the previous episodes for me. We’re finally getting into those juicy issues between Kenobi and Vader, hopefully they really delve into it on Tatooine.
Your videos are always awesome, make more please. I have really enjoyed obi wan nothing like i expected. I haven't even considered any flaws , this is the best series.
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I really hope Hayden understands just how appreicated he really is among the Star Wars fans. He made this episode.
Can’t wait to see him in Ashoka. That’s the meet up I can’t wait for. At least there we have a team that’s 100% commuted to pleasing the fans rather than 50%
Agreed!
100%...The smile everyone had on their faces on that opening scene... that was special.
@@Denjiman-qz9mi there is their fight in rebels...it's pretty cool
He’s OK, not a patch on Jar Jar Binks though, can’t wait for his inevitable entrance, I’m sure it will be as epic as the character himself!
“There are alternatives to fighting” was a great callback to what Kenobi would tell Han Solo nearly 10 years later.
@Heart Strings what?
@Heart Strings yeah what?
Wow…. Didn’t even realize
I do believe reeva will go capture luke and inform him about the force and how it effects ppl negatively and how his birth father becomes a sith and how obi wan failed him and to steer clear of becoming a jedi which makes luke more curious about his birth father and more curious about becoming a jedi like in the 4th movie a new hope or she might attempt to kill him to exact revenge on obi wan for failing anikan or to exact revenge vader for killing the younglings which is unlikely bcs vader doesnt know about his kids yet
“Like getting the hell outta here!”
Obi Wan trying to negotiate with Reva reminded me of General Grievous saying: "Ahh, the negotiator!" It was one of Kenobi's skills to stall time and get people on his side by talking.
The negotiations were short
Bring us something liquid
Kenobi kinda fed Reva to the dogs
@@elsoudani4028 she wanted to kill vader, and he kind of provide her with the best shot she could have...
@@Tomy-im8zl yeah plus deep down shes good
Dude I’m SO happy Hayden got a second chance man he truly is a great actor with a competent script
The prequels were way better than the Kenobi show though and Hayden was amazing in them
@@DefecTec i really enjoy the kenobi show.
@@DefecTec Yeah, those flashbacks were better than anything in Attack of the Clones.
@@Redfoot138 this is so delusional, I can’t believe I’m reading this
@@bluefirefly515 It's delusional to think that the prequels were garbage!?
I like how vader always emphasizes when he says “I”, showing how confident he is of his power
*I LIED*
This was definitely a big step in the right direction!
I hope so.
It's been going in the right direction the whole time lmao
You are definitely correct thumbnail maker
@@Inebriated_Goat nah some episodes were not that great but still enjoyed them
Benny the Photoshop master. En ook een Nederlander :)
No matter what we fans all think of the series as a whole, we should be as loud as possible about how much we love Hayden and Ewan’s performances! This is what we want, this is the kind of thing that can unite the fandom.
Nope. Most true fans are attached to the characters, not the actors who play them. This series is a disgrace and the actors are sell outs for willingly participating in it.
@@andrewjack31 you must be fun
@@andrewjack31 you’re not a true fan if you dislike Ewan and Hayden lol
@@andrewjack31 they are the characters dumbass. Disney can never reboot their characters just like they can’t reboot Iron Man
The issue with the prequels wasn't Hayden, it was the direction and the dialogue he was given and I think this proves that.
Loved seeing Vaders fast paced movements when Reva attacked him.. Definitely shows that he's still pretty young
he is like in his early 30s
To me it shows more how weak she was compared to him because it’s more his suit and his prosthetics that slow him down as we can see with palpatine and count dooku with the dark side being fast at old age is no problem
@@TTFSZ he would have been right at 30 assuming it's just over 10 years since Order 66 because he was 19 in Episode III
He was 22 at the end of episode 3 so yeah he would have been 31-32 here
@@arturodebaudringhien4743 How did 3 years pass within Episode III alone? I thought it was just a few months. He was 19 for a MAJORITY of the movie.
Hats off to Hayden Christensen for still being able to be as op as he was in the prequel trilogy. Even after 17 years,my man's still has it in him...
Yeah he deserve the recognition plus these lightsaber duels seem to be only achievable with Hayden and Ewan. Hope to see more this was great!.
@@MLife1000 Damn right! It was refreshing to see that beautiful prequel fight choreography again after the shitshow we got in the sequels.
@@Burakmms let’s see Paul Allen’s lightsaber
FACTS.
@@MLife1000 you know, a lot of people don't listen to the dialog, but they should! Because it's not just a Star Wars show, it's a statement about how your past never really leaves you! Hey Paul!
Ugh those flashbacks… I hope Hayden realizes just how much the fans appreciate him coming back for this. Total chills and nostalgia. Childhood self is double thumbs up nodding in approval.
Still doesent save this show. What a dissapointment it has been.
@@artturivierikko528 You're a disappointment.
@@artturivierikko528 ok cool bro but like no one asked
@@artturivierikko528 show doesn't need saving
Vader is my favorite villain ever. Every time someone tries to fight him and he so effortlessly tosses them aside is honestly some of the coolest Star Wars I'll ever watch.
agreed, and the prequels are like best origin story ever
You've hit on the problem every Star Wars has had since the original trilogy -- lack of a plausible villain. The first sequel trilogy almost got there until Kylo Ren took his helmet off and decided he was a boy band member
Would have been dope if he actually killed her.. how did she survive the youngling massacre & a Vader duel ? I don’t get that and it doesn’t make sense.. people are saying they left her there to die but didn’t he do that at the Jedi temple ? He knows who she is so he must know he didn’t kill her before why give her a chance to rebel with Obi - Wan idk … The ✍🏾 is dumb the ( action, callbacks & flashbacks are holding this series on its back )
@@dankchewy2699 in order to enjoy Star Wars anymore, you have to ignore the continuity errors that have been baked in since Darth Vader told Luke he was his father (despite previous dialogue that absolutely cannot be squared with that fact)
@@bucksdiaryfan how do you define a “plausible” villain? Because of course Vader is a badass, he’s just egotistical, aggressive, obsessive and presumptuous. IMO that’s just a blank slate for flaws to be written in.
Unless you think it’s arbitrary to write good villains as forward thinking and infallibly evil, Vader is not even top 5 most “plausible” villains in Star Wars cannon lol
We gotta remember that Anakin was a padawan and knight throughout the clone wars. he was trained during an era of soldiers not during an era of peacekeepers, like the counsel was. His generation of jedi was more aggressively trained and tested than previous,I think. Galactic civil war has a way of hardening a person, and rewarding a more aggressive style
No Anakin was an aggressive fighter because of who he was and what he’s been through. Being peacekeepers doesn’t mean those Jedi weren’t aggressive
He was too old to learn to suppress his emotions when he joined the Jedi
But when the flashback happened Anakin was probably 17 or 18, the clone wars started around wen he was 19
I agree with all of that... he chose that aggressive style before the clone wars though. But yeah I mean, I still agree it reinforced it and his mentality
Although I believe he was mentally weaker than the rest, I LOVE your anslysis of that because It might surely be true
I love how they made Vader actually feel like Anakin in this episode
I also love that they made him feel like he’s invincible making him more menacing than ever
Seeing Hayden’s smirk one last time as Anakin was just so fulfilling. As for the lack of deepfake de-aging, perhaps it wasn’t done because we are seeing these memories through the eyes of Vader who cannot remember being a young anakin
ngl I really like that theory
YES! That’s actually how I watch Better Call Saul. If his older self is remembering, he may look older in his own mind or recollection.
It’s a good explanation but when you remember memories of when you were a kid do you see you self as a grown ass adult or as a kid?
Or maybe budget reasons.
Why waste money for a short flashback.
@@finitatem Yea
Episode 5 was the episode I had waited for!
The whole series should have been like this.
@@jrobs1133 for sure
@@jrobs1133 Series is good. Ep 1 good. Ep 2 okay. Ep 3 good. Ep 4 bad. Ep 5 GREAT. If ep 6 is good or better this series is a solid 8.5/10
For me
@@Daddyvader7 I disagree, BUT I respect your opinion!!!
This was the best episode of the series so far
“Mercy doesn’t defeat an enemy, master.”
Two things. One, Anakin, your Vader is showing.
Two, I loved that line! Hayden sounded just as he did during AOTC. I don’t know how but he did. The role came so natural to him. I’ve really missed seeing him as Anakin. I grew up with the Prequels and have always loved them.
Its actually AOTC
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Oh yeah. I think I got mixed up because attack has a T after the A. So I put AT instead of AO. Thank you, I’ll fix that.
I actually didn’t like that line. He’s always been aggressive but he has always been aligned eith the Jedi code. I cant see him saying this before AOTC.
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I think it fits him. Not long after this he slaughters a bunch of tusken raiders. Understandably so!
I love this comment. Your Vader is showing! Lol
Nobody gonna talk about how Hayden absolutely nailed the voice of Anakin in the flashbacks?! Sounded identical, that was one of the things I was worried about but he nailed it, chills!
Some random youtuber made hayden look way much better and younger than he was in this show , its pretty funny if you ask me :D
@@Gentlemanclub5 that deepfake looks goofy and motionless
because they are professional actors that do their best with what they give them... but specially Anakin looks way older and that alone takes you out of an otherwise great scene... its all what fans wanted and they made is look so cheap
@@zevivas i disagree so much! People always find a way to complain.. i can’t believe you got taken out from a scene by 4-5 wrinkles in his face. His voice, attitude and movements were so prefect
Well he played an akin in Star Wars dude
Episode 5 was by far the best one. Really sets the expectations for episode 6! Love how Vader is finally being done justice in live action. Awesome
Rouge one?
@@KangaZune Roque one was cool, don’t get me wrong. However, it’s definitely not the same as we see now. This Vader is so much more terrifying because he still sometimes loses his calm, which he rarely ever does by the time Roque One happens.
I agree 1,000%! That episode absolutely blew me away! It was perfect!
@@DarthWindu06 not true he’s the two crucial scenes he chokes Krennic and slays a bunch of rebels.
@@DarthWindu06 I see what you mean. I'm just saying this isn't the first time we've seen vader going ham in live action.
This episode was definitely a massive win. Almost 20 years on, Ewan and Hayden can still bring it (and I'm not just talking about the duelling). Great stuff, can't wait to see the finale.
I love the new director
@@Glitchedluke exactly!! The fact Lucas surrounded himself with yesman just shows with the dialogue and direction the prequels went. (Don't get it twisted I grew up with the prequels and love them) Hayden being given actual good dialogue and direction shows how good of an actor he is. He felt more natural not as forced as Anakin did in the prequels.
@@Inebriated_Goat lol there's nothing wrong with the dialogue in the prequels though?
@@Inebriated_Goat I also love the prequels, I wish the new director was the director from the start
@@BactaYT i hate sand. it's coarse and rough and irritating. and it gEtS EvEryWhErE
The scene where Vader used the force to bring down that transport was bad ass. Plus the fight scene after with her was amazing!
It was cool, it was just weird to me that in the time they used to set up that transport vehicle...why not just have escaped. Like "hey, lets wait here until Vader comes in and then send up this dummy ship and then leave after." like huh?
Yeah why did they keep showing that? I mean once or so is cool to get the point across he's broke...but I thought it was gonna lead up to him getting caught or something
@@valetudo1569 dude just hush and stop crying.
@@valetudo1569 To show how crushingly mundane and repetitive his everyday life is. He's not living, he's existing.
@@valetudo1569 what do you mean? If they wouldve used the real ship, they wouldve been caught
I absolutely love how they portrayed Vader's fighting style in this episode. It is so accurate. Because of his suit, Vader is not as flexible as he once was, which limits his abilities to fight with his lightsaber. So what does he do? He quite literally masters the use of the Force to help him when he has to fight, as well as also still being incredible with a lightsaber. This episode perfectly depicts just how powerful Vader is with not only his lightsaber, but also using the Force.
Perfectly said!
Then why did he never use these type of moves in the original trilogy?
@@absurdtrickster9074 Because it was the 70’s
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@@absurdtrickster9074 george lucas isn't the most consistent writer either lmaooo. it's only now after decades and decades of added lore and even further characterization of both anakin and vader that we've realized "huh. vader should be a lot more powerful, shouldn't he?" and now we have the technology and film technicality to see it come to life.
I would also like to point out Anakin also does the aggressive downwards attack on Barriss's lightsaber when fighting her in the temple after he found out she was the traitor that framed Ahsoka.
that’s also the form luke used on him
He really does like to batter his opponents down into submission. He does it in certain games as well.
And on Dooku and Ventress
@@space_2804 fantastic observation
Signature Skywalker Slam
The de-aging didn’t really bother me tbh. I’m just happy to see Hayden in the flesh. Still no Qui Gon though, I’m guessing he will speak to Kenobi just before the last duel. Definitely a W here, but we needed this style from the second episode on. Not the second to last.
What last duel?
Same here, I noticed the little age in the actors (having this taken place in the past) but I didn't care!! Amazing to see Hayden again
They better not break the canon by showing qui Gon as a force ghost just as fan service. Qui Gon was not a force god fully, he only knew how to communicate through the force, not actually appear
@@apomtaylor8054 really? Didn't he appear at the end of the originals with Yoda and Anakin as ghosts?
@@ProtestantPerspective1517 vader and obi is def getting one last duel or it breaks canon lmao
As for how strong Anakin was with the Force, especially with the dark side, this episode gives an accurate depiction of his Force power.
Hey tore that ship up like sushi.
That ship was an amazing display of just how strong Vader is
Alas Lord Vader will never reach his potential with the dark side. The fact he needs the suit to live will always mean he can never channel the raw dark side energy as lightning. He's a powerhouse for sure, and I loved the fact he was agile and his movement was great even with the suit...but alas he is broken. Will never equal Palpatine for sheer darkside power and skill.
@@awg6397 Yeah loved it too! But he is a blunt instrument, to Palpatine's surgical precision.
Agreed. We finally get to see some live action vader rampage
They genuinely might not have de-aged him as much because they didn't want to mess with Haydens authenticity in the first time we see him as Anakin in years. Even though he was old it really felt like him. If he was all Cg'd it might have felt really plastic and not as satisfying. That's the reason I like anyway
Exactly. It is what it is and I'm fine with that
I don’t think that Disney thought that much into it at all honestly. Just another mistake of theirs. It is what it is. Great scenes & episode though never the less.
De-aging is really advanced at this point though and barely noticable especially when you have the real actor as a base and Disney money. Luke in BoBF was uncanny and that wasn’t even Mark Hamill. It was great seeing Hayden as Anakin but it did break my immersion somewhat seeing him significantly older than he should be.
They should’ve just put makeup on him. The CGI looks awful but at least we got Hayden back in live.
If they had did too much CGI I would have not been as emotional as I was. I think they did a good job maintaining some of Hayden's features. It's the significance of the fight that matters.
I didn’t mind Anakin and Obi-Wan looking a bit older in the flashbacks. I can picture them both from episode 2 because the movies are ingrained in memory, so I can tell the difference. The de-aging effect can sometimes make the characters look a little funky which throws it off. So keeping Anakin and Obi-Wan looking more like their present self was a nice touch, in my opinion. Great episode of Kenobi!
agreed. give it 5 years and the deaging will be perfect
Yeah i def agree, i dont see a problem with it either.
Similar to how Luke's deep fake in Mando S2 finale wasn't that great but it was good enough to keep me captivated.
I definitely agree!
I agree. I liked that they kept them "natural"
Absolute chills when Vader pulled the ship down and how easily he ripped it apart. They're finally showing his true power and I'm loving it. Fingers crossed they go all out for the finale
Agreed! AMAZING EPISODE! This is what we have been waiting for! And I agree...hopefully the Finale is amazing as well!!!
Except...where did the other ship come from? They only had ONE hangar and that hangar was only big enough for one ship. Make zero fucking sense
@@Shorkshire "magic"
@@Shorkshire it was on the screen in multiple shots
@@oXRaptorzXo no it most certainly was not lol. The one transport they had was very clearly in the very center of the hangar with absolutely no room for another one anywhere. And if they had a second hangar, they wouldn't have made such a fuss over this hangars doors being held shut lmfao. The whole show is such a shit show of these stupid, mindless mistakes and decisions
Imagine if each episode were like this, a lesson taught with a series of flashbacks to them training in different settings, that Anakin had still failed to learn
That motif is used in a lot of media today and I think it would probably get on some peoples nerves to see it coming up again in their Star Wars stories.
Adam Newland that would of been the perfect outline for the series. Great imagination/concept
That would have been a good series
Gonna cry and try to defend these facts snowflake? 😘🤣. George Lucas clearly said obi-wan and anakin never saw each other and absolutely never fought each other between the time of anakin’s injury on mustafar during the revenge of the sith and their rematch on the Death Star in a new hope. This is straight from the guy who made the entire methos. If he said it didn’t happen, then it didn’t happen. This is just Disney running out of idea’s having to keep bring the past back and ruining Star Wars just to make a quick buck but only the uneducated Star Wars fan will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣.
One of my favorite things about this episode is how you can see clearly that Hayden watched all of TCW. He’s not merely channeling his AOTC performance, he’s going further and channeling Matt Lanter, and he’s doing it while delivering his lines so much better than he did in AOTC (and I love the prequels, there is no shade in that at all). For the first time today I felt like Prequels Anakin and Clone Wars Anakin merged into one entity on screen, and all done so well with just a few lines. Kudos to Hayden for his performance here. He absolutely knocked it out of the park.
"Mercy doesn't defeat an enemy, master... which is why you're gonna lose!" was 100% Lanter. Amazing job by Hayden
I 100% agree. He was very good in this episode.
AGREED!! He needs his own show man
Hayden definitely missed some money doing the clone wars
@@oliver3641 I agree it sounded just like Matt Lanter!
Episode 5 has given us our dreams: Prequels flashbacks, an insight to Reva's backstory, even *Anakin killing younglings*
I think you meant *most importantly*
This should make everyone stop hating reva. Everyone of us would act the same way as she did.
@@Fam200532 People hated Reva because we didn't understand her motives, she was just rash and impulsive for no reason. But now we know why.
@@myka4337 exactly
@@myka4337 yea but it's a bit unfair to expect us to know her backstory and motives right away in. This is a TV show and you needed time to get there. A lot of fans already suspected she was the youngling in the first episode. Finding out she actually wants to kill Vader needed the build up and it pays off in this episode.
I don't know. I think part of the fanbase is too quick to hate on things. Glad people enjoyed this episode as much as I did.
I Absolutely adored this episode, Vader grabbing that ship was absolutely magnificent, the excited sounds u made on the watch party sum it up perfectly, And him not even using his own lightsaber against Reva...absolute power move
Why did darth vader grab a shop what did they do?
@@frazerrobertson2 They meant when he stopped the ship
It feels odd he didn't sense Obi Wan wasn't there
@@BuscaLoEsencial I don’t think force sensitives sensing each other is like some perfect radar where they know exactly where each other is. I’m pretty sure he just sensed the general defection Kenobi was in, which was the same direction the false fleeing transport was, so Vader would think Kenobi and the other refugees were in there.
Grabbing the ship was cool until it was a ruse and whoops wrong ship
I actually kind of appreciate how they didn’t do too much de aging, as I think it looks kinda weird. Obviously Hayden and Ewan don’t look exactly the same as they did in episode 2 but I think the makeup job was convincing enough
Ehhh. He looks older. His hair in Revenge of the Sith makes this ok though. Because it shows age
Gonna cry and try to defend these facts snowflake? 😘🤣. George Lucas clearly said obi-wan and anakin never saw each other and absolutely never fought each other between the time of anakin’s injury on mustafar during the revenge of the sith and their rematch on the Death Star in a new hope. This is straight from the guy who made the entire methos. If he said it didn’t happen, then it didn’t happen. This is just Disney running out of idea’s having to keep bring the past back and ruining Star Wars just to make a quick buck but only the uneducated Star Wars fan will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣.
Also how Vader slowed down the inquisitor spinning lightsaber with the force was incredible.
This is how Anakin vs Grievous would have gone.
@@spaceghostcqc2137 Maul too.
That was cool, and also how he splits the lightsaber and challenged Reva to a duel that she was never gonna win. Every aspect of this episode was better than the last 3 episodes
@@spaceghostcqc2137 no it wouldn’t have he wasn’t as good as he is now
damn, hayden is seriously an underrated actor. he plays PERFECTLY as vader and he’s absolutely incredible in the flashback as well
For real! Those flashback scenes were BRILLIANT! Older Hayden as Anakin really FELT like Vader!!! So good!
Let's not go that far... Lol
@@nightryder21 No we can go that far. He is criminally underrated as an actor, not many people see his great acting power. And he is just the most perfect vader.
"There are alternatives to fighting" Embodied perfectly. A wonderful transition to Alec Guinness' Obi Wan
He said, "There are other ways to fight".
@@sportsguy23 go watch A New Hope bud
I think the placement of Obi-Wan's line "until then, a padawan you will still be" could show that Vader is still not quite past his hotheadedness, and is going to lose his fight in the finale because he still hasn't learned his lesson. That would tie in with the line from A New Hope pretty nicely, as Vader is still the learner and will need to learn one final lesson in his duel next week to become the master.
Gonna cry and try to defend these facts snowflake? 😘🤣. George Lucas clearly said obi-wan and anakin never saw each other and absolutely never fought each other between the time of anakin’s injury on mustafar during the revenge of the sith and their rematch on the Death Star in a new hope. This is straight from the guy who made the entire methos. If he said it didn’t happen, then it didn’t happen. This is just Disney running out of idea’s having to keep bring the past back and ruining Star Wars just to make a quick buck but only the uneducated Star Wars fan will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣.
IMO, great duel but not needed for Learner/Master thing, actually they should've put this epic duel before the ep.5 events. He learned his final lesson in EP.5 when gets tricked and defeated not physically, but mentally again by Obi-Wan and for that surprise defeat, he *lefts* him. Just a minute later, he effortessly plays with Reva, not just straight murdering her like he normally do. He thinks similiar like Kenobi and I think this completes his Learner/Master story arc.
The scene where Vader was just toying with Reva just reminded me of the time Ventress tried to fight yoda and yoda just trolled her be stealing her lightsabers and gave them back moments after.
So true!
Except Vader doesn’t dance around like a fairy ballerina. But you guys will eat this shit up
@@jaimeruiz7837 how is him sidestepping her and displaying his clear superiority the same as dancing ?
@Jaimie Ruiz Your knowledge is probably from playing For Honor, or watching sword fighting porn if you get my drift. If you are the smaller opponent, way smaller, with a smaller blade, and have something like the force, why would you stay in one spot, he would be slower, easier to hit, and unable to get a hit. You have to apply the force into this too. Still, yes its like a fairy ballerina, that is undeniable, but what is wrong with that, not close to enough to your anime?
@@Seabiscuit-gf4jn it's not. Dude is trolling.
I liked how during the training scenes, you could see a certain almost evil expression on Hayden's face. You could see Vader brewing within him even then. I feel like the direction of this series really showcases his talent as an actor.
Me too. It really tied in the scene in AotC in which he snapped and slaughtered the sand people. Even the women and children. That's evil.
You mean… the flat-out evil expression he made? Yeah he was actively insanely angry and evil-looking. It was very expressive.
I’m glad someone else noticed that
Ummm....didn't Anakin have that evil look when he was slaughtering those Tuskin Raiders?
Makes me wish the writer who did 5 did the rest of the episodes as well. At least the writers of the less well-done episodes didn't write the whole series.
This episode was amazing. I took the lack of de-aging as homage to the actors, and us 90s kids that grew up with along them. Getting to see them as they are today was cool.
Random question, may I ask your age? If I was 23 when episode 1 came out in theatres am I a prequel generation guy? I am 44 now.
@@chrisk1391 Yes you're my padawan!!
@@chrisk1391 I'm 44 and I'm an OG trilogy guy. I hate the prequels. I love clone wars.
You actually think this episode was amazing? Holy fuck some of you will literally accept anything.
@@CookiesBricks For our age perhaps we are between trilogies. I enjoy the prequels but if you don't that's ok man. We all like different things. Peace.
The duel between reva and vader was amazing! It truly shows that anakin is still there behind that suit! Or at least the same vader in revenge of the sith. How he has a lightsaber on his side but simply choosing to show off by throwing her around with the force instead. And once he turns the fight into a 1 vs 1 you can tell that he is not even trying. Just showing how little effort he needs to beat her and how ultimately weak she is compared to him. The whole thing feels like a bridge between anakin/vader from rots and vader from the empire strikes back!
I know it’s different from earlier canon and legends but I think it’s a good bridge! The only thing that I would say is that if they wanted this kind of vader then the show should have taken place sooner like 3 or 5 years after instead of 10. like before fallen order. Thank you for coming to my ted talk!
I think is because Leía and Luke age( Leía would not work with 5 years in the actual story they are telling)
@@richardcastillos2896 I agree! I think they should have Changed the story! Instead of having obi wan going to save leia they could have a story of obi wan hearing from the inquisitors that there are rumors of Jedi rebels hidden on Tatooine and other planets near It. and they have been looking for one going by the code name fulcrum, which there are many stated by ahsoka in rebels. and obi wan would assume it is ahsoka looking for him. Obi wan knowing this would leave Tatooine going to a near planet in hopes of finding ahsoka before the inquisitors do. But instead of finding ahsoka obi wan would get caught looking for someone using the code name fulcrum. And I guess the story would have to start at around here! It’s not perfect but I think it gets the job done.
@@doitallyt7431 Its a good story, my story at least what I thought of Kenobi show before the inquisitors and Vader, was a normal story about kenobi in tatooine making his way in the force to talk to Quigon and also he could have as antagonist a jedi tusken helping rage tusken(Like in the expand universe that fought Obi wan during his exile)
I think you have to think Ashoka series is gonna be here too, and she is gonna be as strong a Jedi Master as we will get until Luke.
@@aphexish very true.
I got so emotional during the last flashback scene where Hayden looked so defeated and frustrated with himself. It was SO SO GOOD to see these flashbacks and I thought they were done so well.
I just love how Obi-Wan has this "lose the battle, win the war" kinda mentality. Also, when u mentioned the mimic of the fight and their stance to RoTJ, I think Vader couldve remembered the fight they had while he was defeated by Luke and that couldve also pushed him more to the light again. Overall I just love how they tied everything together
The saying goes, "There is honor in humility" and "Live to fight another day".
I wasn’t a big fan of Reva, but this episode made me appreciate her character a little bit more.
Yes and if they would have killed her off her character would have been glorious but now it will revert back to not so great. She should be dead. They killed the wrong woman in this episode.
the guy who lost his hand will beg to differ
1000%
@@Vigilancex I think that was an old lady hahaha
This definitely did a lot for her. I kinda figured she was one of the younglings... it was obvious... but the twist was nice and they actually made her sympathetic.
loved the episode. I IMMEDIATELY could tell the writing and pacing was different. It was without a doubt what I expected of the series, I'm just sad that not every episode was this good and how this is the semi last episode. I hope the last episode we see more of Anakin and Ben, because honestly half of the times they feel like guest characters in their own show.
And Qui-gon gin
Yes it was the best episode, but still had a lot of stupid stuff in it. Like how they used the cannon to break the door in stead of Reva just slicing it open. Stuff like that just takes away the moments that are good.
Gonna cry and try to defend these facts snowflake? 😘🤣. George Lucas clearly said obi-wan and anakin never saw each other and absolutely never fought each other between the time of anakin’s injury on mustafar during the revenge of the sith and their rematch on the Death Star in a new hope. This is straight from the guy who made the entire methos. If he said it didn’t happen, then it didn’t happen. This is just Disney running out of idea’s having to keep bring the past back and ruining Star Wars just to make a quick buck but only the uneducated Star Wars fan will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣.
I don't think Anakin stabbed youngling Riva. I think they showed how he remembers her as he was stabbing adult Reva.
Yes that’s what happened
Like you would know
Never thought I'd see see Audioholics here. A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
Of course he didn't stab her, she said she acted dead in the temple
@@szyszus4683 But how could she act dead when he was staring her right in the face. She was just standing there. I mean, its not impossible that anakin stabbed her, and she was alive but acting dead, cuz aint no way anakin didn't see her staring him in the face
This episode alone was better than the sequels... the scene where Vader was stopping the ship from taking off and then ripping it apart sent chills down my spine it was so amazing
also shows that vader will fuck anyone in the sequel up without even needing to use his lightsaber
plot is still contrived rubbish
definitely NOT better than the sequels lol. I think it just seems really good because of how shit the previous episodes were
@@danielc8672 but the other episodes were also better then the sequels. Heck, solo and bobf was better then the sequels
@@danielc8672 the sequels are absolutely terrible
You know, after this, I'm really liking Reva conceptually - she might not be EXTRODINARILY well written (better than a lot of other characters Disney's given us), but she's a great physical manifestation of Obi-Wan's guilt and shame over the loss of Anakin.
Except that she would not have survived being stabbed by Anakin Skywalker. Just that minor detail.
@@BonoYoga I don’t think Anakin stabbed her she probably would’ve said that to Obi-Wan but she just says she hid
@@BonoYoga What do you mean? She survived on the night of Order 66 and will, probably, again now.
I just want to add, tho she can be annoying, that is actually a really good sign for the job of the actress of hers, Moses Ingram. The ability to bring emotions to people is the sign of a good job on part of the actor or actress, just like with Jack Gleeson in Game of Thrones, only through his amazing job was Joffrey so hateable.
That being sad, i do agree that Reva is no written amazingly, but she now she does have a very understandable motivation und way to feel the way she feels. These thoughts of Obi Wan failing the whole Jedi Order and being responsible for the death of her adopted family not only does hold quite the weight, she had over ten years festering in these thoughts and hatred every time she closed her eyes and probably a very big portion of her waking hours too. And she would have seen or heard about Vader probably quite frequently, so to be confronted again and again and again with your tormentor, that will only have fueled that fire. I quite like her as more of a tragic villain, i did not hate her before, but this background does very much for me elevate her until then somewhat lackluster motivation.
How is she not written well? She is written fine alot better than some other characters In star wars. People literally just hate her to hate her and give lame surface level reasons as to why. First they said she was too evil as an inquisitor (which is fucking retarded because inquisitors ARE EVIL") next they are saying she doesn't show emotion which is dumb because yeah she does shes a good actress. People just want the stereotypical mustache twirling villains that star wars usually gives us so when they see an actual well written character they thinks is bad writing 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I for one am super happy with the limited de-aging they did. I want to see the actors not CGI. I can imagine them being younger, and what is a good show or movie without a little imagination? I think it was perfectly done.
Gonna cry and try to defend these facts snowflake? 😘🤣. George Lucas clearly said obi-wan and anakin never saw each other and absolutely never fought each other between the time of anakin’s injury on mustafar during the revenge of the sith and their rematch on the Death Star in a new hope. This is straight from the guy who made the entire methos. If he said it didn’t happen, then it didn’t happen. This is just Disney running out of idea’s having to keep bring the past back and ruining Star Wars just to make a quick buck but only the uneducated Star Wars fan will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣.
This entire episode blew me away. I've already enjoyed this series far more than the internet thinks I should, but the quality between ep5 and ep4 is night and day. This is some of the coolest SW content I've seen since 1980.
The internet do not think anything. People just give their opinion. Good for you if you liked it this much. People can also be disappointed
"far more that the Internet thinks I should".
I've been feeling the exact same way. I've personally really enjoyed this show so far, the only episode I didn't like so much was ep 4, and even that had cool moments. It disappointed me not as many people were sharing my enthusiasm, I understand their critisims but I feel like this time the critisims are usually nitpicky. Like their all minor problems that we've seen over and over again in star wars. Like this epsidoe has literally better acting, better storytelling, better effects and better cinematography than aotc or rots! And I truly believe that. They only win over on superior music.
Agreed episode 4 made me not want to watch another , but so glad I did
@@seantoner7392 definitely agree. It seems like the people can’t differentiate this from the Trilogy and just assume the worse. This isn’t a ground breaking series but people act as if it’s the trilogy all over again. It isn’t.
Only star wars fans complain. Like with Reva, almost everyone hated her how to fuck she knows Vader true identity and that she "killed" Grand inquisitor. And it was second episode and they wanted immediately answers 😂😂 bruh. It was obvious that we are going to see, why she knows that. Some people are just dumb but in this case lots of star wars fans are dumb 😂😂. And they have to find out everything immediately. It's series not movie. It has chapters. I can't.🤦♀️😂
I was freaking out like a kid during the Vader/Reva fight, if you can even call it that. Absolutely loved this episode
you gotta be joking. This episode was cringe as fuck and there was so much wrong with it
He schooled her
I don't know why she thought she could take him
More of a demonstration of superiority lol the futile attempt Reva thought she had was seen by Vader long before she had even attempted it by calling her youngling. A shame for sure she could have been a useful ally but hey, it's Vader baby. 😎
Vader absolutely crushed it, my god the way he was manipulating Revas movements, he was terrifying
Even tho it was intended to be a “practice duel” I couldn’t help but think that Anakin was actually trying to hurt Obi-Wan at one point
Yea, definetly but i think the lightsabers have a switch where it doesn't hurt on contact
@@barrymcockinner4005 i read somewhere that the intensity of the blade can be adjusted and when Jedi spar with each other they make it low enough so it doesn't cause any real damage, I might be wrong tho
@@barrymcockinner4005 it still hurts lol it’s plasma, but the guy is correct that you can turn down the intensity so it’ll be like a paper cut
anakin dont know how to "practice duel" its all out or nothing xD
@@barrymcockinner4005 There was definitely a thing like that in legends.
The best part is that Obi Wan is becoming Obi Wan again and leaving Ben to the side. The way he took command of the defense made me say say to myself "General Kenobi, you are a bold one."
Gonna cry and try to defend these facts snowflake? 😘🤣. George Lucas clearly said obi-wan and anakin never saw each other and absolutely never fought each other between the time of anakin’s injury on mustafar during the revenge of the sith and their rematch on the Death Star in a new hope. This is straight from the guy who made the entire methos. If he said it didn’t happen, then it didn’t happen. This is just Disney running out of idea’s having to keep bring the past back and ruining Star Wars just to make a quick buck but only the uneducated Star Wars fan will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣.
The Dark Side leads to many abilities some would consider to be… unnatural…
I suppose this is the right explanation of why Kathleen Kennedy still has a job at Lucasfilm 🤣
@@uacmarine19 😱😱😱😱🥶🥶🥶🥶
omg thats what he says
@@tortis009 🤓
“GET”
I actually think if we got this earlier in the series it wouldn’t be as impactful. This episode was just non stop excitement and payoff. Watching Vader show his powers and still lose to Kenobi with his mind (As Theory predicted) was special.
Honestly, limited series like this are usually best viewed all at once. Like one big movie, but the fact it's been a weekly release has stunted it in certain aspects.
well yes when you have to sit through some garbage episodes, a decent one feels like a masterpiece
@@Stuwi I disagree with the idea that past episodes were garbage on a couple of levels.
1. If we didn’t see Kenobi at at his lowest and going through his rust and self loathing and learning to live with his mistakes instead of “forgetting” or letting them control him… the episode would be less impactful. Seeing him cower and hide and run from Vader in the first meeting was important.
2. We now see and understand why Reva’s character was so hated by the rest of the inquisitors and how she knew Anakin was Vader. The “Oh Shit you were there” moment between her and Kenobi was awesome… as was Vader revealing he remembered her.
3. I actually enjoyed learning about the new empire control. I get some fans wanted only Anakin and Obi Wan… but that’s extremely limited in terms of story telling. We got to see Obi Wan go through his trauma, regain hope and even platonic love through Leia…
I think each episode had a theme or overarching point. Did some of them drag on a bit to get there? sure. Is Leia the world’s fastest child? Apparently. I enjoyed them though.
My biggest complaint is I wish it had all just been released at once.
@@Kenimiro bruh what? I didnt say any of that I just agreed with you saying this episode wouldnt be as impactful if it was earlier and that is purely because the viewers were tired and this decent episode felt very good, even better than it actually is. I didnt say the episodes were garbage because 'not enough obi wan vs vader" , it was the ridiculous writing, poor acting by Reva and very boring cinematography and NOT ENOUGH of the things you said. I wanted to see more of Kenobi being depressed and finding his path to redemption, not 4 episodes of saving private leia
@@Stuwi Sorry- I should have led with I disagree with the episodes being garbage. I thought they did a lot to establish the points I made above. I’ll edit the comment for readability.
I still don’t agree though. I think there is a very limited list of reasons why Obi Wan would leave Luke.
I also think this is the best depiction of Vader’s force abilities and skill that we have ever seen in live action. I thought this episode as a standalone was comparable to Luke’s first appearance in the Mandalorian.
We can agree to disagree though.
This was the first episode that met my expectations for this series.
Engaging all the way through, and it's good to see Hayden in action.
Same for me! this one episode is worth the entire series for me, honestly.
With one more left to go overall this show was a let down.
If this met your expectations your brain doesnt work.
it was ludicrous
@@gothicm3rcy426 i DoNt LiKe iT sO nO OnE eLsE cAn 🥴🥴🥴🥴
@@id0stuff but, but the show was good though…
When Vader took Reva’s saber, I believe he switched to Jar’kai for a moment. His stance mimicked Ahsoka’s and I really appreciated that
you really think these writers know the lore that much
@@mattjuckett9327 you got that right! Also who survives getting stabbed by a light saber twice?
@@mattjuckett9327 yes. Sorry but yes. On set, They only need 1 or 2 who know the lore in and out. And they make a great deal of money btw. ;)
@@Boatswainbill I know, I’m ready for when someone is stabbed.... they are dead
Gonna cry and try to defend these facts snowflake? 😘🤣. George Lucas clearly said obi-wan and anakin never saw each other and absolutely never fought each other between the time of anakin’s injury on mustafar during the revenge of the sith and their rematch on the Death Star in a new hope. This is straight from the guy who made the entire methos. If he said it didn’t happen, then it didn’t happen. This is just Disney running out of idea’s having to keep bring the past back and ruining Star Wars just to make a quick buck but only the uneducated Star Wars fan will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣.
1. I liked how they used the negotiate line, as a call back to when Grievous called him “The Negotiator”
2. Obi-Wan “surrendering” reminded me of Christophsis from the Clone Wars movie when he surrendered and started talking with the Separatist general
I thought the same thing in that moment
You mean when obj wan committed a war crime?😂😂
I’d say no wonder Obi Wan is so proficient with a defensive style if that’s what he had to put up with every time he and Anakin trained
😂😂😂😂
No kidding 😄
Pls anakin isn’t shit, obi wan fought prime maul and dooku, and maul and savage at the same time. Anakin was never the better dueler than kenobi. Revenge of the sith showed it. They watered down kenobi in this series to please the Vader but kissers lol
He mainly became proficient in Soresu because he saw the problems with Ataru when Maul killed Qui-Gon in Tatooine
@@samueletim3666 Anakin was clearly overpowering Obi-Wan in ROTS and only won because the high ground. If the fight went on longer, Obi Wan would have lost because of how exhausted he was.
I can’t wait for the Ashoka series with Hayden. Hopefully we get the clone wars scene’s and flashbacks!
That's what we said about this show. And this is all we've gotten.
@@lessalazar9068 isn't dave more involved in the ahsoka series??
@@maizewindu.4827 yes, that's his baby and he won't have anyone fucking up his story.
Can't wait
@@faatman42 why do you think the Ashoka show will be that much better if they can’t put the effort for kenobi.
This episode made me realize how absolutely amazing and insane Clone Wars Life Action would be... One can dream
Gonna cry and try to defend these facts snowflake? 😘🤣. George Lucas clearly said obi-wan and anakin never saw each other and absolutely never fought each other between the time of anakin’s injury on mustafar during the revenge of the sith and their rematch on the Death Star in a new hope. This is straight from the guy who made the entire methos. If he said it didn’t happen, then it didn’t happen. This is just Disney running out of idea’s having to keep bring the past back and ruining Star Wars just to make a quick buck but only the uneducated Star Wars fan will defend garbage🤣🤣🤣.
Loved it! But I kinda wish they'd remembered Anakins scar over his eye in the Order 66 Close up of him w the younglings.
Ya you noticed that too? Not sure how you just forget about that.
Because the writers are stupid hacks
My cousin who’s a casual Star Wars viewer didn’t notice till I pointed it out. I’d assume a bunch of casuals wouldn’t notice either or not care
@@dqreps they did
Verbatim on purpose because they don’t like George lol
@@jkakaqw I didn’t even notice and I’m a pretty big fan. Emotion of the moment had me captivared
This episode had just about EVERYTHING I've wanted from this series. The flashbacks, man. I was a kid again, grinning like a child. De-aging Hayden and Ewan would seem unnecessary to me. They looked so good even in their older age.
Vader's sheer presence and power with the Force, bringing me back to the Force Unleashed. Finally we get to see what the Force can do.
Amen!!! Brilliant episode!!! Very thankful!!!
The episode was so rewarding because the show took its time to develop the characters and story to build up to the moment. Too many diehard nerds wanted to get the cake before the meat.
They complained Kenobi was disillusioned, weak and not himself. Well of course not after what he went through, and he was trying to stay hidden under the radar. He’s not going to be a well oiled Jedi. And he didn’t know Vader was alive. There was nothing in ROTS to indicate he would. What he said in the original trilogy was with the knowledge he’s gaining now. That whole outrage was stupid.
Hating on 3rd Sister was premature. We were supposed to hate her. We weren’t supposed to have sympathy or anything toward her - that’s what they saved this episode for. I don’t understand why everyone wants everything from the first or even first few episodes. The great payoff is what’s missing in a lot of shows and movies today because annoying audiences don’t have the patience for it. They’re a spoiled on instant gratification Marvel style. That’s why we got Super Rey in Force Awakens.
End of rant.
@@Wicked_Trojan Couldn’t have said it any better, spot on!
“The light will fade but is never forgotten ‘ is the writing on the wall under the Jedi symbol . I Loved seeing the flashbacks and How powerful Vader is . Can’t wait for next week
This was the most perfect 40 minutes of Star Wars I have ever witnessed. Music, the lightsaber duels, the massive leap in story and character progression. I can't believe this is the same show as Episode 4 escape escapades.
Haha or the episode 1 Leia escapes 😂😂
Vader ripping the ship apart was the first time to see how incredibly strong he is. He was like a tornado.
He had to have been _angry_ to do that.
That what I was thinking too. Vader’s true potential and why he was so terrifying has become very apparent in projects like this and Fallen Order
@@WilliamFord972 like she told him about the new decaf coffee crystals
This was, by far, the best episode in the Series. I'm hoping Episode 6 will be just as good or even better to finish the series with a big bang.
Damn there's only 6 episodes? Shit...
Well prepare to get dissapointed with even more woke shit from KK
@@kartnisch9750 Relax...I've been watching the whole thing and there isn't a ton of woke stuff
@@valetudo1569 Well everything Disney have ever done with Star Wars have been woke bullshit and bait and switch just watch Ryan Kinel's videos for example
This episode was amazing! The flashback was outstanding. I loved seeing Hayden again. He and Ewan didn’t miss a beat. Even Hayden looking older didn’t even register.
Also seeing Vader go beast mode on the ship and toy with Reva was outstanding. And the way the flashback coincided with the whole episode was a master stroke. I felt like I was a kid again watching Attack of the Clones, and seeing Vader so powerful made me feel like a kid watching Empire strikes back. This episode is a huge huge win.
i loved how that flashback scene complimented the conversation he was having with padme about being held back in episode 2. that could be the major moment he was referring to in that conversation. at least in part as he probably felt that about lots of things.
This made me gain hope for Reva’s character, because she isn’t some evil character that turns good for cliche’s sake, she’s still evil and harbors hatred towards both anakin and obi-wan, enough hatred to keep herself alive to kill vader (try lol) and ruin kenobi’s mission on Tatooine. She’s willing to do bad things to anyone to have her revenge (anakin for Order 66 and Kenobi for failing)
I thought it was interesting how Vader could beat Riva easily since he trained the inquisitors himself and could practically predict Riva’s moves and attacks; its also funny how Vader messes with her since her lightsaber tactics/attacks were limited due to the inquisitors’ limited training.
Vader trained the inquisitors himself? I didnt know that
@@Johnnyrocks34 yeah, he oversees there overall training and such, that’s why a lot of the inquisitors armor is modeled after Vader
I dont see many people mentioning flashback Hayden taking inspiration from Matt Lanter's performance in TCW, felt like his character was kind of a blend between the two and I loved it! I feel like Hayden absolutely watched TCW and nailed this performance!
SAME
He did watch the TCW by the way ;)
Yes he absolutely nailed Anakin here! I loved it. Now I really want some more clone wars era stuff in live action with hayden
@@Quantumpencil Same!!! 😭🥲🥲
@@vanvaneful Didn't he binge it beforehand? I think I remember seeing that somewhere...
The look on Anakin's face after the short lecture from Obi-Wan hit me right in the feels. He looks emotionally wounded somehow - imagine the look of a child who thought he'd done a good thing, only to be scolded by a parent. It breaks my heart a little, but it's as it always was: Obi-Wan meant well and was qualified as a teacher, but he missed the mark somehow when it came to actually delivering it to Anakin. I see how Anakin could've seen Kenobi as holding him back.
The part where Vader took Her lightsaber like nothing, basically said “come at me”💀 but overall 10/10 beautiful episode❤️
I think Vader was referring to Reva. When he states “it’s not them we need to break”. Since he already knew she was one of the younglings and the grand inquisitor told him how she betrayed him.
Thats a good point.
Or he meant just Kenobi
@@wolff3384 yeah lol
If he meant Reva then I wonder why Vader chose this exact situation to give up Reva, and what he had to gain from it. If the hyperdrive didn't conveniently break down, they would have completely lost the group including Kenobi for good again.
People seem to forget that although YES vader is going after Ben he and the Grand Inquisitor are obviously looking for the PATH. It has evaded the empire of 10 years a hidden pathway to smuggle former jedi and forced sensitive away from the empire.
Kind of a big fucking deal when basically for the last 10 years that's what they have been doing.
I think this was the perfect time for flashbacks. They served a purpose for the episode’s story and weren’t simply added for fan service sake. My *guess* is that many of us were expecting flashbacks and because of that they seemed to come to late - but considering the take of someone outside the hardcore SW fan bubble, they worked well IMO.
I think some of the weird pacing has to do with this was originally planned as a film. I think some of the issues discussed wouldn’t quite feel so weird if this was abbreviated into one sitting.
The deliberate story-telling has been beautiful. This is Kenobi's series, not Anakin's, and not Vader's. Love the show.
Hayden's still got it! After almost 20 years...he's EXACTLY the same as he was in Attack of the Clones. It was so impressive, he nailed it!
Nah man. He definitely aged a lot. I mean of course. We all will
And still so very sexy he's aged very well
They have de-aged him a bit with CGI so that’s why he’s the same as in Attack of the clones
@@luttren No CGI at all in the de-aging actually, just the hair and the costume is so perfect that it almost looks like there was de-aging work on the flashback sequences
@@luttren I've seen the off screen interviews he's still very sexy
It seemed to almost directly address several things that you had specifically brought up
I really liked how Kenobi really went Kenobi...trying to talk things out, tricksy surrendering, talking people into things, and doing one last little switcheroo trick at the end.
And Vader being the Vader we've always wanted to see in the old days
Definitely the best episode imo. It gave me everything i wanted: vader being a badass, flashbacks with Hayden, reva's backstory (obvious yes but still nice to hear), and the grand inquisitor returning.
Also that "fight" between vader and reva was SOOOOOOO satisfying
By far the best display of Vader's power to ever grace the screen.
I loved that the flashbacks actually had meaning and weren’t just fan service. Also I was so gassed when Hayden did the spin move
10/10 writing. Really well done
It felt fan servicey. I don't know about you, but I had an easy time predicting many of the plot points of this episode, at least 5-10 minutes before they happen. It felt really cookie cutter. As soon as the creators are concerned about the meaningless details of the escape, it focuses on the wrong aspects of Star Wars. The Leia part of the escape felt very Disneyfied once again.
Kenobi was really out of place for a lot of the episode. In one scene, he's holding his saber to protect all the civilians. In the next scene, he's running ahead of everyone, and it gets Cpt. Tala and the droid killed. Cpt. Tala's death felt so unimportant she wasn't really even a strong character besides to progress the plot conveniently. We don't really connect with her much. Reva could have sliced open the doors with her saber when they began sieging the front door to their hideout instead of shooting it with a giant cannon that does nothing. I don't know. This episode was entirely uncreative. Vader could have gone down there, torn the whole place apart, and massacred everyone again like Rogue One. For some reason, he sends the new "Grand Inquisitor," whom I doubt he trusts, given that we understand at the end of the episode that he knows Reva was from the temple.
@@retagainez don’t want to break it in to you. But Star Wars is and will always be a kids based movie/ series that is also very enjoyable for adults. Star Wars had never had a very complex and deep writing style.
@@hoineenietjij3331 What do you mean? I'm speaking about the plot of the show. Star Wars has always had complex plot points. One of those would be Luke discovering who his father truly is! Star Wars is a space opera. There should be touching moments like that, but I didn't feel any of those in this show.
@@retagainez episode 5 had prob. one The best writing we ever had in Star Wars. The flashbacks had actually a deep meaning into this episode and you can still see Darth Vader is still the learner. Writing wise I would call it a 9/10, how it was performed 7,8/10. Of course Star Wars had Some Nice plot holes but it never had really deep writing. It was always very easy to follow and you don’t have to keep focus to understand the story behind the movies.
The Aurebesh above the Jedi symbol says "be with you". Directly to the left of that, it says "Corwin Shelvay", probably a name. The tiny letters under the Jedi symbol are hard to read, but from what I can see, they say "the light fades but is never forgotten". The triangle is Aurebesh for our X, so the two big letters are "XF". The two lines above and to the left of the symbol say "may the force be with you". In the first shot at 5:32, the sentence in the top left says "there is no death", hinting at the Jedi code which says "There is no death, there is the Force".
edit: yes i can read aurebesh pretty fluently
Looking for this, thank u
You sat down for 10-15 mins and deciphered it with A-Z Chart in Aurebesh calm down fam
Yes I can read aurebesh fluently 🤓🤓🤓
Why does it matter to you wether he is fluent in aurebesh or not?
Corwin Shelvay is indeed the name. you can look it up.
The sparring throwback was really fun to watch and extremely well done for a tv show. Glad they didn’t go the de-aging route. Hayden looked great and really kept form. Awesome watch!
For me clearing seeing he is not a teenager really took me out of it. Glad it’s not bugging everyone though.
i feel like they couldve done a TINY bit de-aging just to give him the "younger" look hes supposed to have in said flash backs.
sometimes I really like to think of it as them being under 4k resolution especially since we're in a new era of cinema now that we have cameras being able to finally capture smooth movements while also keeping such a crisp quality rather than thinking damn they've aged quite a bit hahah
In the end, I'm not really concerned about that stuff. They're not gonna look exactly how they should no matter what. Had this been a film, they'd probably go to the trouble, but I don't think it really detracts from it. It still feels like them at that point in time. The emotion and movement, the dialogue, their chemistry is still on point.
@@Stevenwave- Agreed, how they look is the least important in these flashbacks. Ewan looks so much like he did in the prequels, it's uncanny. It would have been good if they'd been able to de-age Hayden better since, while he still looks and moves very well, facially he does show some aging. It doesn't spoil anything for me, though. I love these flashbacks!
Age has left no rust on Hayden and Ewan. Those flash back bits felt straight out of the prequels. Great sense of nostalgia for sure!
I wonder what this show could’ve been if throughout the season we had two separate stories going at the same. Flashbacks to them doing shenanigans back in the clone wars with conversations/events that foreshadow the present.
That would have been really cool
Arrow did this well at times, particularly early on. And it seems the way it was depicted here, and probably will lead to how things end in this show, feels similar.
I'll watch a Vader show. It would be cool to see him adjust to the dark side and the suit.
This is the best-written episode so far. They need to let that writer do more of the episodes.
i said the same thing. we NEED to have Anakin and Obi flashbacks, not just because i want more Hayden screen time, but it would really drive home the point that this is OBI-WAN'S story
I think Reva realized that "the boy" mentioned could be Anakin's or at least related to him, and so in order to exact revenge on Anakin for killing "her family" she's planning on going to Tatooine to kill his.
Oh, that could be.
But wait, she is going to survive again a stabbing? Doesn't make sense to me...
Or she could link up with Darth Maul Crew . Now we talking Solo Era
@@endoplasma the Grand Inquisitor survived a lightsaber wound he said so himself "amazing what revenge will do"
@@CrackerKilla yes, an amazingly strong desire for revenge that burns so brightly that he's completely content leaving her alive and not finishing the job so that she can come back the exact same way he just did.
The thing that surprised me the most about this episode (beside it opening with Hayden looking out across the Coruscant skyline and bringing a tear of joy to my eye) is that it made me sympathise with Reva and actually like her as a character. It fixed a lot of the confusing things about her, we all wondered how she knows that Anakin is Vader - that she was a youngling that actually saw him in the temple during order 66 is a really cool way of showing that. We also wondered why she's been allowed to get away with things Vader wouldn't hesitate to kill others for - and of course all this time she's felt like she's the mastermind fooling every one, but nope, Vader and the GI knew she was up to something and were just using her to get to Kenobi. She kind of reminds me of Ventress, she's good at heart but had a rough go of it and is now forced to serve a Sith Lord who she despises, I kind of hope she survives for a while and helps the rebels, but I think Obi-Wan is going to be forced to kill her to protect Luke.
Also, Obi-Wan doing his classic Clone Wars false surrender negotiation tactics was amazing.
Obi wan, back at it again with the war crimes
I wouldn't go so far as to say Reva's likeable now. She cut off some random villager's hand out of sheer spite, and was ready to torture a child. Sympathetic past or not, she's too far gone. If she somehow managed to kill Vader, she'd gladly take his place.
"Fixed"
It's called a story bro, you wait to see how it plays out instead of the SW fandom screaming after each episode how this and that didn't make sense and jumped to conclusions about breaking canon and blah blah blah.
@@LydiaIsSweet Yeah okay I worded that wrong there, I was actually going to say something about being patient but, to be fair, they have let us down frequently in the past few years when we've shown that patience and believed it's going to work out, so it's not like it's unreasonable to be concerned when certain things aren't adding up.
If qui gons force ghost shows up and sees all these people surviving being stabbed in the gut he’s gonna be pretty upset
Maaaan I almost cried when the flashbacks came. I looooved that lesson and just seeing the knowledge Kenobi had as a master. And Hayden omg what a fantastic job he did portraying clearly the issues Anakin had and how they formed while they trained.
The scene with Obi-Wan and Anakin was priceless just like the scene of young Luke and Leia in The Rise of Skywalker. Just like the fight scene between Mando and Ahsoka these scenes revisits battles in the history of Star Wars. The hallway battle was awesome.
Right! And people say Disney doesn't like star wars. If they didn't they wouldn't put this much detail and attention into their scenes..
@@Inebriated_Goat The deal is with Disney they need to find writers who understand the. For example, little Leia. They over did it with her character on her learning how to rig a door and Reva her character needs to fleshed out, to much potential in that character. I have seen the attacks from Disney employees, it needs to stop.
Eeeww the sequel trilogy is not canon
@@cerromeceo Actually it is. Much of the material is from squeal and canon material
@@charlesratcliff2016 Disney told us it wasn't canon when they brought back Palpatine duh
"She's a Skywalker, like Anakin at age 9... basically like human gods" Considering this lineage was born from the will of the Force, I agree. The Skywalkers are gods.
@@floridajames04 What sequel trilogy?
@@itsjustjayy7390 W
@@buzzbrick7521 lol fr fr
Even gods fall
@@itsjustjayy7390 I think he means this non canon one by Jar Jar and rest
Anyone else think Obi Wan was giving heavy Darth Sidious vibes with Reva?
He knew he’d sway her, he also knew she stood literally no chance against Vader… but yet he still twisted her mind to move her plans up by probably a good 5 years.
Quite chilling when you break it down. Yes I know she’s too far gone now for Obi to save, but she was taken to them very young and was swayed out of fear, not loyalty.
THE JEDI POWER MULLET RETURNS!
It's so satisfying finally seeing live action Vader finally be portrayed as monstrously powerful just as he is in the comics and games
Uh, he wasn't in Rogue One?
I think Vader's badassness is something everyone can agree they got right.
@@Oldstalk Vader effortlessly killing rebel soldiers is nothing new
I don't think the flashback necessarily confirms Anakin stabs reva at all. It can simply be interpreted as being her pov in that moment, in her mind equating her current situation with the one during order 66 and seeing vader as anakin and herself as her younger self, it doesn't necessarily mean that the "flashback" is 1 to 1 of what happened
She still gets stabbed and is fine about 20 seconds later. On top of that Vader should have known this and finished her off
I agree
Agree
that’s what I thought it was when I first saw the scene.
I disagree. He struck down all the younglings as Palpatine ordered, he would not have allowed Reeve to survive let’s be honest
The parallels in this episode were amazing. Even Reva vs Vader somewhat mirrored Anakin vs Obi Wan. He defeated Reva and disarmed her without his weapon just like Obi Wan did to him.
Oh! I just realized something! I think somewhere in the comics it mentions vader hates double blades right?! Remember how he split reva’s saber in two and then gave the other half to her? Kinda like saying “if you wanna try and kill me, do it better”
I love how Hayden and Ewan were not de-aged during the duel. This was such a beautiful episode, I love how this compares anakin in episode 2 to Vader. I love how Anakin's bashing of the lightsaber while Obi is on the ground complements the fight in episode 3 of Obi wan and Luke Vs Vader in ep6. This episode was very well done and is one of the best episodes produced by Disney. I hope Lucas is proud of this
I didn't. All believability went out the window. I'm sure they didn't deep fake or de-age for budget purposes, and because of that I couldn't get wrapped up in the flash back.
@@kingdomcitizenship5613 I personally thought it was nice to see them both as themselves and not CGI.
@@georgemoney6893 different strokes, different folks. I just felt if this was supposed to be a flashback, then don't show us a 40 year old Anakin and expect us to believe he is a 20 year old Anakin just because you gave him a Padawan pony tail.
@@kingdomcitizenship5613 It’s really not that big of a deal, I actually prefer seeing them without the de-age as it looks more natural. Just be happy they weren’t recasted
@@samjsim10ss if they were recasted everyone would of boycott it and Disney definitely wouldn't benefit off that at all
This was the best episode, hands down, and has gone a long way in redeeming the issues with the previous episodes for me. We’re finally getting into those juicy issues between Kenobi and Vader, hopefully they really delve into it on Tatooine.
Your videos are always awesome, make more please. I have really enjoyed obi wan nothing like i expected. I haven't even considered any flaws , this is the best series.