Searching for The Tomb of Imhotep
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- Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2020
- An online lecture by Dr Chris Naunton based on the book 'Searching for the Lost Tombs of Egypt' - see chrisnaunton.com/searching-fo...
Imhotep. The name has been made famous by Hollywood mummy movies but the real-life man of this name was perhaps even more extraordinary. He is credited with designing the Step Pyramid, the very first of these iconic monuments, and long after his death he became a folk hero, and eventually a god. Despite his status, his tomb has never been found. Two thousand years after he lived, the ancients made thousands of offerings to him around a group of tombs of Imhotep’s time. Could one of them have been the final resting place of the man himself?
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Just imagine how badass that title is to be the official "Bro" of the Pharaoh. Love the idea that Djoser and Imhotep are the first best Bro`s in recorded history!
Chris, keep doing this. Starting out and getting noticed in the library of RUclips is not easy but we appreciate it
Many thanks Niel, I will be posting more to this channel - I have a backlog of previous talks to upload once I get a break from giving new ones (details here: chrisnaunton.com/online-lectures/)! More soon!
I am really enjoying your narration, you are very easy to listen to, thank you for sharing
Lovely to know, thanks Patricia!
Thank you!
Dear Chris Naunton, my interest in Egyp goes back a long way. I am now 80. When I was about 5 (1948), my father brought home one Sunday morning a green cloth bound book on Egypt, published by Blackie of London which he had picked from a second han bood barrow at the Ha'penny Bridge in Dublin.. As an early reader I devoured this bok over and over. There was one 'spooky' pictture - a line drawing of the mummified head of Ramesses II. Sadly, in the many moves in my life it was lost. However, it sparked an interest in Egypt which has never left me. I have made many visits there, the first in 1973, Naturally I would would like to go again one more time before age or extinction overtake me.
Perhaps it is because I am old, I find it almost impossible to follow the red cursor that you use. It moves so quickly that it is hard to pick up and follow. Any chance you could make it more visible? (Despite my age, my vision is not unduly impaired.) Otherwise your narrations and the images that you use are fascinating and extremely informative.
I thank you for making this storehouse of information available in such an engaging way. Please continue to provide us with your updates in due course.
Sincere thanks from one who wold love to have been an Egyptologist
Thanks for sharing your story David and for your kind comments! I'm not aware of there being any way of enlarging the red pointer but I will look into this, thanks for the suggestion! And I hope you do get to Egypt one day by the way - as I type I am on a boat on the Nile I can tell you it's very beautiful here!
Do you remember the name of that book? There are Bookfinders on line that can find almost any books with either author or Name.
Your research and delivery is excellent. I enjoyed this very much.
Many thanks, much appreciated!
Dr Naunton, seeing you on network television & then seeing these lectures is a real treat. I am astonished at just how well versed you are on this subject, watching u read the glyphs is a rare treat indeed! I, like my fellow commenters here, enjoyed this lecture and look forward to many more that the future holds :)
This is lovely to read, thank you! I have a few more of these talks recorded and ready to go and a few more in the pipeline. Watch this space!
It's nice to watch a well researched and well presented lecture. Thank you for the effort you've put into this.
I'll add two things that might contribute something to the discussion on Imhotep:
1. About the location of Imhotep's tomb: in a paper published in 2021, author and Egyptian former Minister of Antiquities Zahi Hawass writes about the tomb possibly being under the Step Pyramid. One reason he gives is that Senenmut, architect of Queen Hatshepsut, had Imhotep as a role model. Senenmut's tomb is under the Deir al Bahari temple, and it is possible that he chose that location in order to imitate Imhotep. Hawass also mentions a gap below a part of the north side of the pyramid which was accidentally discovered during some work on restoring the pyramid but which couldn't be explored because it was blocked by too much debris.
2. About the Famine Stela: you mentioned how it shows that "the Ptolemaic people wanted to believe there was this character, Imhotep, who was a very wise and who was somebody capable of bailing the country out of a problem." I found another interpretation that talks about how stele was written in a time of stronger than usual struggle for power between different entities in the Aswan area. The temple of Khnum used the stele as a way to legitimize their ownership of the lands listed in the stele, of one-tenth of the wealth of the people of those land, and of one-tenth of the imports from Nubia. Reading the text of the stele and seeing how detailed the descriptions of what belonged to the temple of Khhum was, this second interpretation made more sense to me.
Again, great job with your presentation. I'm glad to have found your channel. ❤
Thanks for watching and for your contributions to the debate! Dr Zahi's suggestions are intriguing although Senenmut's tomb is not directly beneath Hatshepsut's temple of course - it's at a slightly lower level and a few hundred metres away along the temple causeway. I think I'd argue that the Hatsheput temple and Step Pyramid aren't directly comparable in terms of their setting (Deir el-Bahri cliffs versus flat plain), alignment (E-W, versus N-S) etc. As such there isn't any particular area around the Step Pyramid that would correspond to the location of Senemut's tomb unless just outside the pyramid enclosure, but then this is approximately the area under discussion here anyway, so I'm not sure Dr Zahi's suggestion really helps. On the famine stela I don't think the interpretation you describe is incompatible with what I wanted to say which was just that Imhotep had been remembered as the hero of the story, regardless of the nature of the story or any agenda of the creators. But it's not an interpretation I was aware of thanks all the same!
@@ChristopherNaunton I didn't know that about Senenmut's tomb, nor about challenges in comparing Hatsheput's temple and the Step Pyramid. Thank you for taking the time to clarify that. It must have been incredible to explore all those sites and to get the kind of direct experience that makes it easier to imagine what life in ancient Egypt might have looked like. Keep up the great work. ❤
@@BiancaAguglia Thanks again!
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well done, very informative
Thanks, Chris. I've been looking forward to this.
Excellent presentation Chris. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it Luis, thanks!
This tomb has fascinated me, imagine was secrets we would find in a untouched to mb of imotep
Thank you, most fascinating and well presented...
Thank you!
Always absolutely fascinating!!! Cant wait to absorb this one next!
Very interesting. Thank you. I wish someone would continue the search for Imhotep's tomb. I would think it would be very desirable to locate.
When I went to the step pyramid it became clear that that his tomb would be close to the step pyramid or maybe could be under it, they are still passages being explored and he was put on the King's statue the only person ever to be put on a king's statue so where would a master tomb builder put his tomb. under his king's tomb just like on the statue.
Been binging your videos over the past few days, love them!!
Lovely to know, thank you!
Thank you for this amazing explanation!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I have been itching for you to do something like this! I've always wanted to pick your brain. I appreciate your time and effort.
That's good to hear! More talks on the way - Royal Mummies next, on 17/18 August ('scuse the plug)! chrisnaunton.com/online-lectures/
The "close fitting cap" on Imhotep's head in the Stelae where he's depicted behind the God Osiris looks like his hair to me!🤔
Very interesting. Thank you. Is anyone excavating these mastabas now? Or looking for Imhotep's tomb?
I gather that a project is about to begin investigating some of these questions but I don't have any details as yet. It'll be very interesting to see what they find!
Very interesting and clearly explained. Thanks so much!
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks John!
I know I'm late to the party. Hello from Melbourne Australia
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@@ChristopherNaunton how are ya, mate?
@@wensday21 Good thanks! 👍
Good info thanks
Interesting as usual ... my opinion doesn't/won't count for much but if I had a dig permit, I would be at the site of 29°52'56.7"N 31°12'00.9"E ... something is there and it's on a mountain ...
You're right! But Waseda University has beaten you to it - this is the area of the Khaemwaset monument - more here: www.egyptpro.sci.waseda.ac.jp/pdf%20files/AS/EA36KawaiYoshimura2.pdf
Hi Chris, thank you for sharing the search for Imhotep. I visited Egypt in September 2023 and was taken to the Step Pyramid and the large mastaba just to the north with the incredibly detailed wall decorations.
Question: given the current financial impact of the Red Sea attacks by the the Houthi as well as the Gaza conflict, do you think that the Egyptian Govt might encourage further digs for this 'lost ' tomb to bolster tourism?
I’m not sure there’s much they can do in fact - they are excavating at Saqqara and uncovering lots of new material so I should think it’s more about how much media attention they direct that way - I’m sure there will be discoveries they can talk about if they want to!
I always leave a comment for the algorithm, even if I am not particularly inspired to. I appreciate your time doing these although I am also interested in some of the whackier theories, especially with regards to pyramids and the serrapium "coffins". Don't see the point in arguing when I equally enjoy the content. ❤
Thanks for watching! I am hoping to do something on the whackier theories at some point - watch this space!
@@ChristopherNaunton great. I have been obsessed with all things Egyptian since childhood. At 17 we moved South and I went to London as often as I could afford. The British Museum was a revelation and after that it became lifelong. Did an A level in Classics and assumed studying Archeology in later life might be an enjoyable retirement. Life had other plans but I still listen and continue to feed my interest. I could never had foreseen how expensive Higher Education would become, I was privileged to chalk up degrees and diplomas before it got crazy. On the other hand, although I don't have more certificates, knowledge is easier to obtain than ever. I can listen to experts who just want to share their passion with the world for absolutely free. That to me is another amazing privilege - and pleasure.
Is it possible the stepped pyramid, ever had casing stones, or a future plan for them? Or at we looking at the finished product, and simply like how early.
I'm not aware of there being any evidence of casing stones that would have created a true pyramid as with the later monuments - if that's what you mean. The idea of building a true pyramid seems only to have come in later, and the Step Pyramid is not unique in being a monumental stepped structure of this era.
@@ChristopherNaunton I see, sort of a stepped mustaba except they used stones instead of mud bricks.
Love your channel, thanks for the reply.
Thanks to David Miano and gentlemen like yourselves I am enjoying learning with real facts and history.
A breath of fresh air in the midst of all these alternative history buffs. Thanks
@@keithfitzpatrick4139 Glad you're enjoying the talks, thanks! More to come!
Why does it look like all the old stuff is way out buried in the sand but a view from above shows such a change in landscape one might think it's been done on purpose to keep stuff hidden. Because it looks like if they wanted to spread out farther then they would tell you. I also know about the Nile and what it does for the landscape.
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it is a little frustrating of course that we may never identify his tomb as a lot of tombs have been destroyed beyond identification but i can dream that it is found and intact :) BUT Could the shore of crocodiles be Faiyum ? in particular the shores of Qarun lake \Faiyum Oasis which is also opposite the Libyan mountains? maybe it would be an idea to start looking there.
Hi, and thanks, yes, the Faiyum has been suggested to me in the past and it's possible of course. There are other crocodile-related sites - Kom Ombo - that could also be considered on that basis but in my view Saqqara is still most likely.
@@ChristopherNaunton Hey, thanks for the reply :) really appreciate your content, I guess I picked there because it is the nearest fitting location to Saqqara that matches that description and the oasis was known as the oasis of Amun Ra (and there is an ancient oracle in the mountains not so far from it) and he was the high priest of Ra, all of which is of course meaningless since we have no idea of the actual source of the claim and how far back it dates before it was mentioned in writing so could of been just a rumor. The mastba you mentioned which is unique in it's orientation coupled with it's location is of course the current best shot but for many years I always kinda wished to find his tomb and intact filled with wonders such as paintings and models of his work, a foolish pipe dream maybe but you never know ;)
@@ChristopherNaunton It also occurs belatedly that the body could of been moved much later after having first been entombed at Saqqara
@@wynwilliams911 Yes, absolutely.
You are not the only one to think of Faiyum when hearing about crocodiles 😂 me too 🐊
Enlightening.
You said “Imhotep was the first to discover medicine, in the form of Asclepius”. What does that mean? Were Imhotep and Asclepius the same person?
The quote comes from the Corpus Hermeticum, and is ascribed to the god Hermes Trismegistus who is speaking to Ascleius. It reads as follows: "“Take your ancestor, for example: he was the first to discover medicine, Asclepius." (see my slides, no. 36, with refs. here: chrisnaunton.com/searching-for-imhotep-links-further-reading/). So, Hermes Trismegistus is saying that Imhotep was Asclepius' ancestor, and the inventor of medicine. In ancient Egypt, Egyptian gods and goddesses often came to be merged or associated with Greek and other gods and goddesses e.g. Amun/Zeus, Thoth/Hermes and also Imhotep/Asclepius. Hope that helps clear things up!
Tantalising...
The father of medicine super genius African
I Hope Those Monsters Don’t Find It. It’s Not Lost. They Looking For Gold!
Clearly no LAHT people have watched this video. No downvotes! :)
Why couldn’t Imhotep be a brother of the Pharaoh? Such as a younger brother? Or even an elder brother who was born with a birth defect that would prevent him from having children?
It's not *impossible* that he was a brother of pharaoh but there is nothing either from his lifetime or from afterwards to suggest that he was. There is a well-known formula that was used by brothers of pharaoh to express this relationship, and the title 'the king of lower Egypt, the brothers' is not it - it's something else. So it would be difficult to argue that they were based on the evidence we have.
Imhotep was an African man and never ever would of knew of himself as an Egyptian but kemite kushite there was know ome in kemet with the name of joesph at his time
The concpt of Africa as a contient wasn't known then, also what do you mean kemite kushite ? He identitfied as Egyptian and their enemies at the same time ?
I really wanna know where this man's resting place is...
understandable why they felt the need to invent a new religion in the ptolomaic period
?moses
Unas body never found?
Unas boat pits (? crocodile pits.)
If Imhotep is the Biblical Joseph, then he was removed to Caanan at the time of the Exodus and buried there.
This IS BS. It's like 1500 years earlier - if Joseph IS a historial carácter at allí.
Even If so his tomb stayed behind
I have to say... the "sources" are not very source-ful.
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There is know mention on the walls of kemet that there was a Joseph there hahaha
As with so many mythical figures, Imhotep was more likely a fictional character than a real man, which will be the reason his tomb was never found. It would be like looking for the tomb of Thoth or Theseus. And none but an Egyptologist believes that the Serapeum boxes were intended for the Apis Bulls, whatever their later inscriptions might suggest. These inscriptions all date from the Saiite and later periods, including one from Cambyses II, not known for the creation of cult statue sites. The basalt and granite boxes are far too big and finely made for bulls, vastly old and were discovered opened and empty. One found unopened by Auguste Marriete was only opened by means of blasting powder. It too was empty. The mummified bulls were located elsewhere in a separate annexe in smaller wooden boxes.
Didn't they tell you????? Imhotep's tomb was found around 2015-2016!!! For some reason it was kept quiet !!! ????
His name is yoseth Jacob son I read Egyptian
Imhotep's tomb...will never be found, for Imhotep was Joseph of The Bible. Imhotep was not Egyptian. Only Egyptians were allowed a tomb burial. Moses left Egypt with Joseph's bones, as commanded by Joseph...so there will never be a tomb of Imhotep found, unless of course...you are able to find Joseph's tomb in Shechem/Judea, where The Bible states Joseph was taken to and buried.
Well, don’t look in the pyramids cause those were not tombs.
Besides All the Egyptian are r1
Nope most of Egyptian in old time and today are e
They are looking for him in the wrong country.
Imhotep = Joseph
"By faith Joseph, at the end of his life, made mention of the exodus of the Israelites and gave directions concerning his bones." Heb. 11:22
"Then Joseph made the sons of Israel swear, saying, “God will surely visit you, and you shall carry up my bones from here.”" Gen 50:25
"Moses took the bones of Joseph with him, for Joseph had made the sons of Israel solemnly swear, saying, “God will surely visit you, and you shall carry up my bones with you from here.” " Exodus 13:19
Smacking of lips
Stop smacking your tongue, PLEASE !
Read the bible you'll find answers joseph=imhotep
Well, thanks for your advice! In fact I have read the Bible but I don't recall any passages that would allow us to identify Imhotep with Joseph with any certainty. Could you refer me to the appropriate sections? In any case though, even if the identification were correct, would that help us to locate the tomb on the ground in Egypt? That's what's really of interest to me here :)
@@EasternRomeOrthodoxyhe Hebrews were back in Canaan well before Rameses (any of the thirteen) was born. Their assaults on cities in Canaan were recorded In Akhenaten’s Amarna letters.
The reference in the Bible is to the city of Rameses, Pi-Rameses, the city built on top of the Hyksos capitol at Avaris. It is a geographical reference.
They were a well established kingdom in 1208 when Merneptah invaded and, in keeping with Egyptian practice at the time, castrated all the male prisoners they took (recorded on a memorial stele that was written on the back of one of Amenhotep III’s) before withdrawing back to Egypt.
@@allangibson8494 Black? Black Israelites 🤣🤣🤣🤣And i am the first who said that Ramases II wasnt the pharoah of the exodus, and that it was in the 18th dynasty, so learn how to read, faceless bot lol
🤺☦🇷🇺Only uneducated f00ls would say such a thing lol.
Amenhotep II fits perfectly with biblical timing and the fact that he hadn't had a 1st son to rule after (since he died in the plague as described in the Bible), and the same for his predecessor Tuthmose III (also his 1st son didn't). Hatshepsut was the 1st (we can even say the only) female Pharaoh, and her reign was a record of Egyptian power and prosperity, which was a blessing from God to her for saving and raising Moses, and she was Tuthmose I's daughter, whose reign's timing fits perfectly with the birth of Moses. Moreover, Hatshepsut's memory was intentionally attempted to be erased by Amenhotep II. Why? Atheist historians think maybe it's because she was a woman, but we who believe know it's nonsense, and it's obviously because of her being responsible for Moses existence - again, everything fits perfectly. Pharaoh's daughter could also be her sister Nefrubity, who mysteriously disappeared from Egyptian records, and only shown as a child with her parents on a stele, and thought to have died as a child, but she was the younger sister, so I don't believe it sits well with nursing Moses. So, the conclusion is, that it were Tuthmose I, Hatshepsut, Tuthmose III, and Amenhotep II during Moses' time and not just Amenhotep II.
Also important to understand, that the historical mention of NAMES of places in the Bible, shouldn't be taken as if those names are necessarily the actual names for those places at the time period mentioned, but good be their future names, retrospectively described by God and the prophets, as the case with the rivers of Eden in Genesis that surround the lands of Cush and Havila: names of Noah's descendants who weren't even born in that time, and therefore, the cities Pithom and Rameses mentioned in the exodus as cities built by the Israelite slaves, shouldn't be taken as if it happened in the time of Rameses II, when those names first existed, but rather at the time were they were named Avaris etc., and that is why people mistakenly think the Exodus was in the time of Rameses II, because that's when those cities were re-built by THOSE names, but were already been built. Get education
@@EasternRomeOrthodoxy The Israelites were the cousins of the Hyksos who ruled northern Egypt as the 15th dynasty until the founder of the 18th dynasty (and last ruler of the 17th dynasty) drove them out.
The Hyksos were referenced from the sixth dynasty as rulers of the Levant who gave tribute to the Egyptian pharaohs.
The 31st dynasty Persian Artaxerxes and 32nd dynasty Macedonian Ptolemy’s were also called Hyksos.
Egyptians were never stereotypically “black” anymore than anyone in the Middle East is. Nubians to the south of Egypt on the otherhand are seriously black - and a major impediment to any of the lighter Bantu tribes moving north or Berbers moving south (until the availability of camels in the third century AD permitted the bypass of their kingdom via Timbuktu).
But that's not his name it was written Egyptian as yoseth besides he lived in the same time and there was no other governor of Egypt but Jacob son and he was black
Because that wasn't the name inside the cave I read Egyptian
Imhotep is Joseph. Search for his bones in Israel!
Poor audio! Waste of my time
Get a decent headphones 😁
Must be the listener
Fine for me