Mark Halsey GOES IN On VAR After Wolves' Controversial Decision Against West Ham! 😠⚡️
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- Опубликовано: 7 апр 2024
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The beauty of VAR is that it lays bare the bias of the officials towards certain teams. It is there for all to see and removes any doubt. Dont get rid of VAR just get rid of the appaling officials who preside.
He’s offside 😂
Laws of offside it met the threshold for offside.We had a similar incident on Tuesday at home to Spurs,didn’t score but gave Antonio offside.
Would be interested to hear Mark's take on the Wolves penalty when Emerson arguably gets a touch on the ball, and also Emerson's disallowed goal where foot to foot contact was deemed the offence although it was accidental. All those incidents get turned round it finishes 3-2 to West Ham.
Why is everyone obsessed over the fact that Fabianski can see the ball? His view of the ball isn't what's obstructed, his view of Kilman is obviously obstructed and so Chirewa was deemed to be interfering with play. Whether you think the goal should stand or not, the reason why the decision was made isn't exactly difficult to grasp
Hahahaha so by your logic a goal.keeper should be able to see all 20 players from every set piece? The ball is the most important thing. You know the thing that you save.
@@DLambysAQStick A keeper should be able to see... the player that hits the ball into the goal. You're aware the ball isn't going to change direction by itself right? Newton's first law and all that
@benisbonus I refer you to Google images and a side view of the goal in question. I have nothing more to say. He can see kilman and the ball. He doesn't complain once. VAR is an intrusive waste of time and the officiating in this country is absolutely shocking.
@@DLambysAQStick You seem to think I feel way more strongly about the call than I actually do. The ref is given an angle, from the angle he's given it looks like obstruction, he disallows the goal. I don't like VAR. I think the quality of refereeing in the premier league is way below the stature of the league and needs to improve. I also don't get why people are so hung up on whether or not fabianski can see the ball in this case because it doesn't really matter
@@benisbonus The ref did not disallow the goal VAR did
Whats a worse call? This or kalvin phillips getting penalized for a pen against newcastle? West ham have dropped enough points due to VAR. its about time a call goies west hams way
By that logic, I think every PL team should put a player right in front of the opposing keeper then get another player to fire it into the bottom corner. Going by your logic, that's not offside. It's offside, simple as. There's no debate about it, he was centimeters in front of Fabianski.
Brian Clough said if your on the pitch your involved in play simple as that all this nonsense not involved in play
It’s really not as bad a decision as people are making out. The player was offside and obscuring Fabianski’s vision. How you can be so outraged about it is so confusing to me.
Also, when has it been ok to go in on a ref like that and question their professional ability? That used to get you fined.
The ref's initial decision was goal. VAR, only supposed to intervene in cases of clear and obvious errors, thought otherwise. Do you think the initial decision was a clear and obvious error?
@@nicolinzini520nope 🤦♂️, mate if you don't understand or know what VAR is used for then it's best not to comment about it. You've probably read someone else's comment saying that and thought that must be right but it's not right at all. Read the VAR directive for yourself. It checks every single goal. Also even by your own VAR rules, missing an blatant offside is a clear and obvious error from the officials. 🤷♂️
@@darreno2428 I didn't say "check", I said "intervene", i.e. directing the referee to look at the pitchside monitors, or to overrule entirely in cases of potential offsides. This is only supposed to happen for clear and obvious errors. And the offside was far from blatant, evidenced by the large amount of discussion and controversy generated. Vast majority of people seem to think it was a legitimate goal.
@@darreno2428 You need to read the offside rules I think. About interfering with play.
@@micheal197012 I have and the Wolves player breaks all of the "interfering with an opponent" rules🤷♂️. Oh and just so you know and to stop you making silly comments again "interfering with play" is different to "interfering with an opponent". The rules are publicly available, read them and learn.
Right decision. If you think it's not... 🙁
Offside. He is having a detrimental effect on the keeper standing in offside position. Impossible to say what the keeper would have done if he had not been there.
It was offside...... the player standing in front of the goalie was offside, and if you're standing right on the keeper blocking the header then that's interfering with play........ pretty basic decision........
If the player isn't interfering it's not off side. Simple as.
@DLambysAQStick if your touching the goalkeeper while a shot is coming towards goal your interfering with play
@@DLambysAQStick he was interfering.
@xxxdannyXMurphyxxx he wasn't touching the goalkeeper when the header was going towards goal, he was also not blocking the vision as he is shorter than Fabianski and the ball is high enough to be headed by a centre half. By the laws of the game he was not interfering
@@rwolves7 mins of listening to a former premier League referee not quote any part of the offside law. He sounds a bit out of date. Go read law 11 and it's so clear the decision by var was correct
That goal should of stood but also Emerson goal should of stood as he didn’t intentionally stand on the defender foot ⚒️
I think you’re right, it’s going through his head thinking I might have made a mistake and I can make it right by doing two wrongs.
You're saying that using West ham emojis. If that's the other way round your opinion changes. Think about it
@@DLambysAQStick I just said the wolves goal should of counted and I use the hammers emoji to show I’m a West Ham fan but still agree the decision was wrong 🤔
@markblondrage2776 no I get that but Emerson litterely takes semedo out of the game when he puts the ball in the net. Lol you can't foul the player marking you it's not bloody rugby.
@@DLambysAQStick ok mate we all entitled to our opinions, we have suffered the same fate throughout the season with var so as much as I feel for wolves we are due a bit of luck our way now and again, it’s just annoying that no one talks about the game anymore and just talk about var decisions it’s ruined the game
If he's in an offside position and blocking the goalkeepers view of the header it has to be interferring with play.
VAR was introduced to look at and correct obvious errors by the referees, which weren't that many. Now it scrutinises every tackle, shot, throw in foul, goal, everything. We are now seeing glaring VAR errors every week, so in my opinion it is not doing what it should be. Football has been ruined, thanks to VAR,
Now you see how they lied to the public , just to force VAR into the game . The refs are sitting comfortable laughing at how they have conned the game . Smh
100% correct
If it was only used to correct "obvious" errors the vast majority of matches would have no VAR involvement. Even among those decisions which are corrected there will be a lot of cancelling out with some going for a team and some going against. Clubs then realise that the whole thing is not worth the vast sums of money they are paying for it and the gravy train for the officials comes to an end. In short, football is not a sport that has the scope to use VAR technology successfully and it should never have been introduced in the first place.
@@PureExile wow finally 👏 bravo. Your comment will soon be deleted
@@PureExile True again. Well said.
Gabby sticking up for Wolves, priceless 😂
Why has nobody picked up west hams goal Kurt stood in front of Jose sa and he couldn't move
I think Schar's disallowed goal against Fulham for Dan Burn's "foul" is a bigger injustice. If that was a foul, especially where the ball was well over their heads, then there should be freekicks and penalties awarded every time a ball is crossed into the box
Sorry I understand why Wolves fans are upset however look at the slo-mo replay from the reverse angle and you can clearly see two things. 1 the Wolves player is directly IN FRONT of Fabianski. I repeat in front, not the left, not to the right. 2 by being in that position he prevents the keeper from moving forward and cutting off the angle. If that isn’t in the line of sight what is? Most fans are so partisan it’s impossible to have reasoned debate. Still that’s football I guess
He is only offside once Kilman heads it, so ability to move forward is not in point as ball was moving to his side, which he just watch go in so he had full vision of the flight of the ball and therefore not impacted by the player
Spot on..clear offside
Wolves have had more points deducted through VAR this season than Everton have through punishment.
If ever you have a reason to believe in karma its the minutes Wolves are always given in added time against us. In defence also you cannot justify Emerson's goal being disallowed. Their penalty was debateable my feeling is a 3 goal win to westham!
I was there , nobody appealed against that goal. The ref didn't see any issue. Why did VAR get involved. Was it Wolves again. Why is it always Wolves? The Ref at the end couldn't be bothered to talk to the players. He was more interested in dishing out yellows. Sabria mockingly clapped him. Yellow. So now the goalies just have to stand behind a player and claim they were impeded.
Missing one little important fact! He was deemed offside!!!
@@paulstimpson8977 not by the linesman....
@@kasarabian3274 Linesman missed it VAR ruled the player offside and so the directive was for the ref to take a look to see if he thought he was interfering and he thought he was. So VAR worked in this instance.
Shocking show of misunderstanding of the Laws of the Game, from all three of the Pundits. If you are talking about the spirit of the Game. Ask IFAB to change the Offside law. don't cook the Officials for decision which is 100% correct in law.
Halsey is missing something important. The ball just leaves corner kickers boot , Fabianski is moving forwards but was stopped by their player , they touch , he has to step backwards. That player is active , previously interfered with the outcome and now in an offside position. Dermot Gallagher has said 90 other refs would agree it was offside but Halsey is just doing it to be controversial just like some of his rubbish contentious decisions when he was a referee (just want's attention all the time).
The player was standing right in front of the GK, and he was in an offside position…wether you agree with it or not (I don’t btw) it’s a completely justified decision from the ref
The ref's initial decision was goal. VAR, only supposed to intervene in cases of clear and obvious errors, thought otherwise. Do you think the initial decision was a clear and obvious error?
Fabianski said the goal should have stood and with respect his opinion perhaps is more valid than yours - I’m not a Wolves fan by the way but that’s a goal
@@forfinsakeeven though I said the same thing? Try reading properly
@@nicolinzini520They are right to ask the ref to make a call…all VAR know is he’s in an offside position, so they ask the ref to decide wether he’s interfering. As for it being clear and obvious, the linesman clearly missed an obvious player in an offside position…if he wasn’t given offside by the linesman, then the referee hasn’t had a decision to make yet, so it’s impossible he’s made an error
@@forfinsake so we ask the keepers wether their view was blocked before deciding? 🤦♂️😂😂😂. What do you think he'd have said if they ask him right after the goal went in?
All VAR and the ref have to go by is the camera replays and they blatantly show him, taking 2 steps back towards the keeper and in to an offside position in an attempt to block him, it also shows him directly in line between keeper and ball as the ball is headed at goal.
Good to see dermot backing the referee up this morning!!
Could of fabinski go forward ……….. no
So in your opinion standing in front of the keeper on a direct free kick is okay so long as the keeper wouldn't get to the ball
VAR is the worst thing that has happened to premier league football.
No. Money is the worst thing that happened to the Premier League.
@@kadiummusic Both answers are correct
Facts
Best league of soccer in world and you guys are complaining.. jeez
@@Faladin85 Quality does not ensure entertainment or excitement. Meanwhile, VAR undermines the quality, entertainment and excitement. It's a triple whammy.
Offside and interference, could not be more simple
In what way is he interfering.. he doesn't touch fabinanski and isn't next to him in the slightest he has all the time in the world to dive but chooses not to cause he's beat.
@@DLambysAQStick another amateur that doesn't know rule 11
@@edadams4631 ah yes the rule that states if a player interferes with the goalkeeper and is offside its offside.
Chiwara litterely doesn't touch or go near the goalkeeper and the balls going in regardless of him being there.
Bore off.
They're wrong. It was the correct decision
This is getting ridiculous,we have had 8 VAR decisions worse than this one that’s cost us points,but no public outcry for us little old West Ham.Sick of the bias against us from MSM.Offside those are the rules correct or not but were applied to letter of the law offside get over it
Gary o'neil stop crying you should not have your player obstructing the goal keeper in an offside position if you think you can cheat a goal or manipulate people to get your own way west ham have had more goals then anyone taken away by var get over it
see VAR should go but then what happens is that there are so many cameras and so many pundits scrutinizing everything and picking up mistakes then var will come back
Whys Halsey talking like he didnt a whole heap of decesions incorrect, what a plonker
Big fine incoming!
Gabby hates wolves and even he says it’s a goal
Bring back old school football when striker ball and goalie hammered into goal. Why is it different now compared to years ago. Because goalies are molly coddled 😊😊
Wolves manager, what a child, boohoo
It's his lively hood at stake.. if you're at work and something happens unjustified beyond your control you'd be complaining as well.
God, kettle calling pit black. Time Referees got some guts and stick by the Laws of the Game.
The argument that an Ex-Player may have bias in the VAR room is nonsense!!! An Ex-Player can do the courses and exams and become a referee.All referee's got into the job because they are football fans, they all have hometowns and support teams in their personal life. You're not telling me that no referee doesn't have a slight bias towards certain teams. But when you do the job in front of millions, you can't get caught out with obvious bias decisions.
VAR has ruined football end of, it is not fit for purpose. Anyone that knows anything about our beautiful game knows that this was a perfectly good goal. This garbage is happening week after week for all the clubs in the Prem. I've been watching some Championship games lately and it's an absolute joy with no VAR, the games flow with none of horrible revue delays after every goal etc. Ditch VAR!
Earlier this season, Man City were given a goal under VERY similar circumstances. Double standards?
It should be scrapped immediately until they can come up with a version that actually works - I was all for it IF it wiped out mistakes etc but it is worse than the previous system! I'm West Ham and we have lost so many points over the last few weeks because of inept VAR decisions, it's a joke!
The wolves player was backing in to Fabianski. Offside, end of, move on.
incompetence or corruption??
Anyone who thinks this was a goal clearly doesn’t know anything about football. Go back to school.
Same old shhheet different day…
It was offside.
We need to go back to the old rule if your behind the last defender doesn't matter where on the pitch your offside it's not rocket science none of this his not interfering with play shouldn't be on the pitch as Mr clough would say
It would make things simpler I guess. Hope a striker doesn't go down injured, the opposing team would push up and immediately win a free kick.
Or just in the penalty area even…
Var...was that a yawn Alan?
Yeah lets get a player in there to judge decisions, because all footballers would obviously get all decisions correct 🙄
You Cannot be offside from a Corner to the Individuals who do not know what their talking about..
He is offside for the header not the corner. It's not direct from the corner if you need to know the difference the west ham goal was direct from a corner
The offside isn't from the corner.
Have var had a good game all season I don't think so
The trouble is the refs dont seem to have any ground to apply common sense or pragmatic decisions from the powers above. I dont even believe var is a specialist position.... every regular punter can see when a decision is wrong...The rules dont seem to allow for any flexibility. Id like to see refs ignoring var at times and sticking to their decisions too
Thank god Halsey doesn’t ref anymore what a muppet
Don't care... it wasn't given as a goal.... same as many other teams have been robbed by VAR interference over these past couple of years.
Argue all you like... it ain't gonna change
Wolves, Forest and Burnley have been screwed with decisions this season. If something happens to Liverpool or United or one of the big teams it’s news for a month. This nonsense happens to the ‘smaller’ teams every week and no one bats an eyelid.
Anyone with half a brain, should've realised VAR would never work because apart from offside everything is subjective. The one thing it normally gets right is offside but even that we feel cheated by, we wanted VAR to get those offsides that were so egregiously wrong, a yard onside or 2 yards off but now we get 5mm offside as if that would've prevented the majority of these goal. This one its highly unlikely Fabianski will save it but the fact he is standing there in front of Fabianski he is interfering by simply being there, under the rules it does tick the boxes, yep don't want it given against me but want it given for me. We've changed the rules of the game to implement VAR and make it quicker, apart other sports adding a referral rule, none have changed the actual playing laws of the sports to implement their review systems. Football is unique at the speed it moves and the immediate direction changes it has ove the 3 dimensions, as long as we have subjective rules VAR will NEVER work constantly , and the rules will always be subjective in the main!
So what we gonna do then -- just keep talking about it - this season has been a joke and there is no accountability so the refs ain’t bothered - have you noticed sky presenters have stopped critising referees - it’s clear carragher and co have been warned by the bosses to stop ref criticism - I noticed it with the doku challenge at Liverpool the 4 pundits were the only people who didn’t think it was a pen - sky belong in Russia or North Korea they bully their employees and actually do carry up their threats ask Matt LeTissier and dozens of others - shameful have to come on RUclips now to get the truth
Corruption plain and simple
hahahahahahhaha
They don't want wolves chasing top six just as much as west ham , but I think out of the two evils they would prefer west ham than wolves, bit more big chew ready , but west ham have had biased refs var pundits commentators against✌️ the little east London club✌️ for years I mean years. 'X'
It’s all a scam that’s why! End of
Curupt 😊
You're so wrong Halsey. He backed into Fabianski twice so that he had to push him off and couldn't make a choice to come out to the ball or move or dive as he was being interfered with.Obviously offside. No wonder you don't ref any more if that's your idiotic opinion. Red card for that non punch as well? Have you taken your medication this morning Mark?
Good decision, well done ref, Emerson’s goal should have stood, so Wolves got away with one at least
If you really think that, football ain't for you pal, find another sport, Your part of the problem.
@@funnyfuse3869football is a contact sport. Barely touch him and he went down like he was shut. Quick enough to get up after and complain though.
@@funnyfuse3869 mate I’ve forgotten more about the game than you will ever know clearly 😂😂😂
And I’m not your pal
Offsite all day long
Football is aids these days.... soul has gone just turned into a supremely wet non contact sport
Stop this, 'we need ex players'. Im not an ex proffesional, and everyone else here, we all know the rules and that was a goal.
The ex players see how easy the refs and VAR have it professionally . They are paid excellent remuneration for doing very little and with zero scrutiny or comeback on bad decisions. The ex players want some of the money the refs are earning
Why talk about that one incident. The penalty wolves got was controversial as was Emersons goal that was controversially dissallowed. On balance the result still stands. West Ham have been on the receiving end of poor Var more than any other club over the last two years. They owe us a few good ones.
Emerson clearly trod on the defender, not sure why you think that’s controversial
@@GIBBO4182and Chiwera is clearly offside while standing 1 foot in front of the keeper. 🤷♂️.
I'm West Ham and tbh they had to give Emerson as a foul as he impeded the defenders ability to make a challenge, it was soft but because it leads to goal then they have to give it. It's the same for their disallowed goal, he's offside, standing 1 foot directly in front of the keeper so not only could he be impeding his vision he is also blocking a direct path for Fabianski to have made the decision to come out and challenge for the ball in the air. They had to give it wether Fabianki could have saved it or not.
@@darreno2428 cool…nothing to do with my point though! 👍
@@GIBBO4182 just pointing out that they were both correct decisions, yet only one is being talked about as being controversial.
The laws of the game state he is offside, like it or not that's the way it is.
I disagree that the laws are as clear as that. There's an element of subjectivity as to whether the player in the offside position was interfering with play.
@@nicolinzini520 he was in the line of vision mate, that is interfering
You can be offside and not interfere with the play which is within the rules..offside is not black and white anymore and this was a goal all day long. The goalkeeper was flat footed and had the player not been in front of him he still would not have moved.
@@kevinpillay6103 he was in the keepers eye line, the argument hes never getting there is ridiculous, more subjective b ll s it that is the whole issue with var
@@sonjataylor9596 this goes back to the argument of a defender being impacted by a player in an offside position wherever they are on the pitch because the defender has them in their head that they are there. We should just go back to offside being offside regardless of which phase it is, etc
VAR needs to go. Completely ruined the game and it’s no long enjoyable to watch. At the very least they need to change it to a challenge system like other sports
BENT
But a West Ham player was on the line so how can there be an offside?
Corruption!
Another shocking decision by the ref and VAR!
yeah ref should of seen it in real time but got the right decision in the end
Blah blah blah talk shite as usual......
Whys Emersons disallowed goal not being discussed,the Wolves player cheated as Emersons only got his eyes on the ball yet the geezers rolling around like a sniper had taken him out......