If you have been drinking you shouldn't be driving, same as if you are under the influence of drugs. We take road safety seriously. Road toll has dropped drastically since these sort of tests were introduced
I suspect most Australians are with me being more worried about their right to not get crashed into by some drunken idiot than to not have to count up to 5 or so... Our road tolls might be better now, but we still lag behind plenty of countries in the stats. Public road public rules.
Seriously I didn’t have a driver license after serving a 3 month suspension, I was told I could drive in 3 months. The police thought it was in the time period, when it wasn’t, took my car, which I didn’t get back. The justice system told me that fuck up from the police but since I had to do it online, I didn’t know how, and so I lost the car, and still had to pay $3000. So the police actually gave me my sentence without a judgement. It’s a joke. I was so upset, and they said how would you feel if you killed somebody and you didn’t have a license, I thought that was the stupidest statement ever, as I am sure I would be devastated if I killed somebody and I had a license, I would feel the same way. Love ❤️ from Australia 🇦🇺
The difference between America and Australia. We want to keep the entire community safe, even if we have to give a little to make that possible. Americans simply don’t care about society if it violates their individual freedom.’Cause that’s socialism, and you can’t have that because your successive governments over the last 70 years have brainwashed you into believing that Socialism and Communism are the same thing.
You can have your license taken away if you disobey the laws so driving is a privilege. Guess that's the difference in mentality between AU and the US. @@Jollyswagman7
Two weeks ago on a Sunday, I’d been showing my dogs with my friends. On the way home, I got off the freeway in my country town and immediately there was a booze, drug bus. I got waved over to be tested. My 80kg Great Dane puppy tried to lick the police officer, and the cop laughed and gave him a pat. I was breathalysed and drug tested, I was clear, I have no issues with our police keeping us safe
I like to say hiya have you had a quiet one? That’s what they need just to be treated as people just doing their job. The only haters are the ones who drive under the influence lol.
I feel sorry for the Police in the US - how many people must have they told, "sorry your father/sister/aunt/boyfriend has been killed. We knew the person who hit them was drunk but we didnt want to invade their privacy"?????
If a cop in the US believes you are intoxicated they will 100% pull you over and arrest you. You can then accept the charge or try and prove your innocence by taking a breath test at the station. If you refuse the breath test but still want to fight the charge the police officer will have to explain to the court why they believed you were intoxicated and unless you have a really good argument as to why the cop is wrong you will lose. Anyway I am all for RBTs and safe roads but we shouldn't turn the US into some kind of strawman. The reality is that they have a stronger history than us of defending civil liberties because they have had violated civil liberties so much more than us in their time. The US has laws protecting against the unequal application of the law because the law has been applied unequally in the past. If you tried to set up an RBT in the US there would immediately be civil liberty groups claiming you are unfairly targeting certain demographics, whether that be socio-economic or ethnic.
@@goaway9977 In American law there is the 4th Ammendment of the Constitution preventing "unreasonable search or seizure" by the state. It's all about freedom from government tyrrany or something equally vague that is apparently more important than safety in public. I don't see why proving that you are adhering to the terms of your driver's license (not to mention insurance) is such a big deal, it's done in seconds, less than a stop for a red light, barely an inconvenience. Unless you're a dirtbag that likes to drive intoxicated.
It's worth pointing out that the entire reason for pulling someone up can be for a breath test. i.e. The cop walks up to the driver's window and says, "Good morning, driver, the reason I have pulled you over is for a random breath test". That can be an excuse to pull someone up if they suspect something else, but it's also a very valid and common reason for being pulled up. It has happened to me numerous times (yes, I'm old), but it never upset me. It's no different, in my opinion than a radar checking my speed. I think most Aussies would agree that your "rights" to privacy do not outweigh my right to get home safely.
It also a fantastic control mechanism. In the US, you can only respond to obvious driving signs, or the tragedy they cause. In australia, they can identify high risk times and areas, and send random breath tests to increases the resistence to drink driving. Australian drivers are much more concerned about being caught drink driving than americans because of how common random stops and testing points are. And that is good. You should worry if you are drunk, and people who are not drunk don't care. 30 seconds in line and then back home.
The main big difference is Australia’s are pretty relaxed and follow the law. Just like when the gun laws were introduced. Americans like to complain about anything. Freedom and rights seem to be what Americans want to complain about. Laws are written for every persons protection.i watch so many videos of Americans complaining about their rights, the constitution says this says that. All interpretations they can find. Instead of thinking of what the laws are for and doing people just want to have rights. I’m so glad I’m in Australia.
Australians weren't that relaxed when the gun laws were introduced, lol. Lots of people were upset and there were even a few protests. Thankfully, though, when those people calmed down and gave it some proper thought they came to agree that it was actually the right thing to do.
Its a greater good vs individual want. Laws that protect the greater society and blanket reduces everyones risk of harm, vs the individual believing them as an individual is more important
@@Elriuhilu In hindsight everyone thinks that, but when gun buyback was introduced it was pretty heavily fought and deeply unpopular. I forget where there was a similar massacre to Port Arthur (i.e. its not just bikies shooting each other), but the holdout states were Tas and Vic (?) I think. Port Arthur changed it because it was so big, and it was so many young families.
@@smalltime0 There was the Milperra Bikie Massacre in 1984, the Hoddle Street massacre in Victoria, the Queen Street massacre in Victoria, the Strathfield massacre in NSW, but the 1996 Port Arthur massacre was the straw that broke the camel's back - notice that we always tend to refer to these big ones as massacres instead of shootings
With RBT limits a driver must be under .05 who are on full licenses, Provisional license holders must be ZERO, Heavy vehicle, bus, taxi, shuttlebus, etc holders must be under .02.. The idiots who say it's only revenue raising are those who have been caught over the limit, drug affected, fined, banned from driving for months, or jailed as a repeat offender. The RBT has reduced road deaths significantly over the years, but those who think it's a cash grab, obviously have not lost family or friends to drunk road users or drug effected ones either.
When my cousin lived in Florida, a child was killed outside their school by a drunk driver. They put a row of speed humps in the road directly outside the school gate as a measure of protection. The parents of the children complained and protested until they were removed, as it infringed on their rights. This is the sort of morons we're dealing with 🙄
@@Jollyswagman7 In Florida, speed bumps are only allowed in communities that maintain their private roads. They are apparently not installed on public roadways. Although schools are starting to install speed cameras to be operated during certain hours. Even speed cameras are unusual though.
I'm in Oz and I got breathalized about 30 yrs ago. I had stopped at traffic lights and took a swig out of my soft drink bottle. the cops( also at the lights )thought I was drinking beer(to be fair the bottle was brown glass like a stubbie) so they pulled me over. It gave me joy to hear him say "show me what you were drinking" only to then for him to say "fair dinkum ginger beer????"..he apologised but I still had to do the breathalizer still smile when I think of the look on his face after all these years but he was only doing his job
You can be drinking a beer whilst driving as long as you are under the limit in South Australia unless that law has changed recently all other states it’s a no no
You described the bottle and I thought "ginger beer". Still, cops wouldn't be doing their job if they hadn't made sure Glad you had a chuckle and a good story
The police often set up RBT stations completely blocking the road, and breath resting or even DRUG testing every vehicle. The are usually located around a bend so you can’t see them ahead, and by the time you see them there are no alternate routes. One time on the Highway Patrol tv show, they had a second police vehicle waiting on a side street so you also had to answer the question “why did you come down this dead-end street?” 😂
Where I live they don't test every vehicle, but just a group at a time corresponding to the number of officers in the lineup, and allow the rest to proceed until they've been tested before pulling over the next group.
They did it on riverside drive in Perth the day after an event (I forget which) and it caused a traffic jam for about 1.5 hours after it was removed. Oh they caught nobody over the limit.
No they stop several vehicles at once and let others pass before repeating the process. And they don't block of the whole road...they block only one lane
In most states in Australia you can expect to breath tested and possibly drug tested as well whenever you are stopped by the Police. We are OK with this because it gets drunks and druggies off the road and prevents lives being destroyed or lost. America is miles behind Australia in this, the compulsory use of seatbelts and compulsory helmets for motorcycle and bicycle riders. All of these things reduce injuries and save lives.
The RBT is just part of our lives in Australia. It has prevented so many deaths due to DUI (Driving Under the Influence). It now includes drug testing. Modern technology has made it more accurate and quick. They can be anywhere at any time. I was coming back at approximately 12.00pm from a principal’s meeting and was tested. No biggie. Everyone driving, on a particular side of the road, is pulled over for a test.
At least the RBT stops I've been through, they only do drug testing if they believe you're somehow under the influence. You need to have a smell, blood shot eyes, behaved erratically or smell. I think those tests take longer and require more work to double check, so police only use them if they have to.
Easter coming up everyone so remember DOUBLE DEMERITS and lots of RBT units around. Most people are for this as it's for the benefit of everyone. Most of the western world does breathalyzer tests but somehow Americans seem to think that being drunk and driving is one their rights. Blows my mind.
Except in Queensland. We don't have double demerits for specific times, but if you are booked for the same offence multiple times, you get an increase in the penalties
Being from NSW I'm well used to double demerits. Having moved to QLD, it's a different story. No demerits. No police, come to think of it. Very, very, different. I nearly had two head-ons in a year, living in rural QLD. Unbelievable what idiot drivers there are.
I got my DL in 83 so it's the norm for me. I never saw this ad as I was a country kid, (No commercial TV). I don't see it as an invasion of privacy as the roads are a public facility. It saves lives for sure so I'm all for it. ☮️
It follows that people call alcohol, piss. So you drink’piss’ you’re pissed. What’s the slang word for alcohol in the US? Edit…funny old lady here, can’t even type the word piss, without quotation marks…
Yep, I've watched a few of the video's of US DUI arrests...it's a bloody clown show of the cops "frig arsing" around for what seems like forever, all the while making the suspect more upset/agitated/angry (sometimes resulting in additional charges) and the cops job more difficut, only to breathalize them once they return to the station. It's like they want to: 1. Waste police time/resources. 2. Cajole suspects into committing more offences. and 3. Raise anti-police sentiment in the community by their actions. Seriously, I can see nothing to be gained by the "dog and pony show" they carry on with, instead of making it a relatively quick and painless process. I think we've got it pretty much spot on in Australia, and the road fatality statistics would suggest that we're doing way better than the US. Cheers!
@@phillipevans9414Very true and I will tell you now that I would not pass one of those tests as as I have hearing issues that affect my balnce ,, not so muchas to cause problems with every day situations but not those tests
Yes, and the sobriety test is much more subjective as based on cop’s opinion. Just do the breathalyser test and you are over the limit or not. Cop can act on result. Quick and reliable and less cop determination, therefore more objective and much less chance of conflict through needing to get the person out of the car, instructing them in sobriety test, observing and assessing them etc, particularly if there are other persons in the car. Much less dangerous for cop.
Yep - likewise field sobriety tests and arrests - both use more police time (= money”) than going straight to the kerbside breath test and on-the-spot-fines
I don’t drink and drive full stop. But it would be so embarrassing to have to get out of your car and do the wobbly walk on the footpath in front of everyone. Breath test is straight to the point
@@brettlane6908maybe do a little google first; the gentleman above is correct but even if he wasn’t, is that the way you would want to be spoken to if you’d made a mistake?
Not long after Brocky was killed in his final race in Perth, a paramedic was convicted of stealing from a corpse after she took something from the scene featuring that number. When she was arrested the police found the item framed on her wall. It was a betrayal. RIP Peter Brock.
A few years ago my wife and I were driving home when we passed an RBT setup on the other side of the road. My wife wanted to experience the process so we drove around the block and changed seats. As we approached the testing station cars were being pulled up in front of her, she was so nervously excited. The car immediately in front of her was pulled over, then the cop looked up, they had enough to keep them busy for a while, so he waved her and the following cars past. She missed out.
I've only ever had one test, and I told them it was my first time. They made a joke and laughed as I was a virgin to the process. I'm 70 and have been driving since I was 17. I've always been waved past any RBT but did get pulled up once in a random car check where they looked at everything to see if it was roadworthy. I don't object to having these things in place, and if you're not doing anything wrong, there's nothing to worry about. The police have each time be super pleasant.
I was driving east on the Greats Western Highway towards St Marys and they had set up an RBT just around the bend when you drop from 80 K's down to 60. I was pulled over and the officer informed me that, "you have been pulled over for a random breath test". My reply was, "I would never had guess". He burst out laughing and replied, "you would be surprised at the questioned some drivers asked why they have been pulled over". @@nonacee5065
You won’t find too many Aussies against RBTs. We want drunks on the roads as much as the cops do. Speed cameras are another story. If people post RBT locations on FB, they will get slammed.
If the law requires you to be under a certain limit then it makes perfect sense that they can stop and check you for compliance at any time, otherwise it is basically unenforced or only enforced retrospectively I.e after an accident. Which if applied that way doesn't really serve to prevent accidents, which I believe was the whole point of laws like this?
This may be a hot take but I think people who bitch about speed cameras need to shut the hell up and stop speeding. I particularly have no respect for parents who complain about speed cameras near schools. Same for Red Light cameras.
Random breath testing wasn't introduced in Australia in 1982. It started in 1976 in Victoria, and then got introduced into other states progressively over the next 12 years. I got a random alcohol breath check when it was first introduced in New South Wales. The policeman started by asking a couple of questions. His first question was, "How old are you, sir?" I replied, "Ummm... umm..." and he interjected, "I know it's a difficult question sir, but please try to do your best." ROFLOL.
What rights of privacy should anyone be given on public roads, when it comes to protecting the public from drug/alcohol fueled weapons. Ego and self importance should not come into play. Proud to live in Australia with tough laws and great attitudes. Who wants to live in a country and trust a government who is willing to put their love ones at risk over so called rights. What bullshit some Americans voice. 😒
Nothing to hide? Then nothing to worry about. Cut to the chase, why all the bull, don't waste time. U drive drunk or under drugs then too bad, cop the consequences
The problem in the US in their history of violations of civil rights and the safe guards put into place at a federal level to prevent this. You are not supposed to apply law enforcement unequally in the US, which basically means you can not target a community with heavier policing than another. That is why they work on the principle that a police officer needs reasonable suspicion before they can detain you. If you tried to set up RBTs in the US you would immediately have civil rights groups coming out and claiming that some communities are being targeted based on socio-economic status or ethnicity. It is why stop and frisk in New York was so controversial despite being so effective. Anyway they have different priorities than us because they have a different history than us. And I don't envy them. I want safe roads and am happy to accept RBTs as a tool to further that. But there is no need to be disparaging to them.
Seppos don't want people protected from gun nuts running around with military-style weapons, or covid-infected nutjobs running around without masks. What on earth makes you think they would want people protected from incapacitated drivers?
For goodness sake, it's not an Invasion of Privacy!! It keeps the Publuc safe from drunks, drug addicts, etc!! Nobody in Australia take offence at these Laws or being tested for drinking and drugs!! It is part of our Way of Life and if it can save even one life, it is worth it!! I think Americans attitude about these things are a bit over the top and extreme. Even over Gun Control!! People in Australia willingly handed over their guns after the terrible massacre in Tasmania. They were recompensed with money for the weapons that they handed over. It was truly worth it, to save lives in the future!! We are obviously more laid back and accepting of Rules and Regulations here in Australia, than Americans are in America!! I believe it makes us happier and.more content. Our only problems seem to stem from certain Illegal immigrants from other parts of the world, who bring All their hatreds and hangups with them!! Personally I would Deport All the trouble makers!! I believe All countries are experiencing this problem!!
Here in Finland and Im pretty sure it's the same or similar in most of Europe, cops don't need ANY suspicion whatsoever of drunk driving in order to give you a breathalyzer, in fact they quite often have checks where they stop every single car that passes by and has the driver take a bearhalyzer just to make sure. I think this makes perfect sense cause I know for a fact that some people can seem and act like they're totally sober, not show any sort of obvious signs like smell of alcohol or fail one of your ridiculous field sobriety tests, and still be too drunk to operate a car safely! In some european countries the limit is literally ZERO, if you've had anything at all to drink in the last hour or so, you're screwed, He're in Finland the limit is 0,5 promille, and if you're above 1,2 it's considered a severe offense
My ex was a massive alcoholic and even when he was drunk, most people wouldn’t realise. Even my parents when we’d go to their place for dinner. He’d have to be REALLY REALLY drunk for other people to notice.
@@warrencurtis7442 planting alcohol allover you? How would he do that, open a bottle and pour it over you? 😂 Even if he did, that still won't show up on a BREATHalyzer, also, here in Finland, our cops aren't corrupt like many of them are in the US
Part of the conditions of applying for and maintaining a driver's license, along with compliance with the National Road rules (and any state additions/amendments) is the explicit agreement to undertake a roadside test when requested.
Over here in Australia, you don’t even have to be going past a RBT station. You can just be driving along doing nothing out of the ordinary or breaking any laws and the police can pull you over to perform a breath test and licence check. I always say though, you shouldn’t have any worries with being pulled over unless you are drinking and driving. If you’re not breaking the law, you have nothing to worry about. The person who commented with it being just revenue raising has obviously been caught as it doesn’t cost you any money unless you are over the limit.
10000% I agree with you. And If I am driving on the road, I feel safer knowing people who are under the influence are being caught by random stops for sure
@@TrainsovertheLittleParaRiver If the police stop your vehicle because they want to test your breath, the only information required is your driver’s licence which contains your full name and address. There is no lawful ground for investigation or detainment simply for refusing to answer probing questions. And Australian police are not arresting people for refusing to answer. You say the law doesn't require any more information, and they let you go. If you swear, yell, abuse, and annoy them, of course they get worried. They have to deal with irritable assholes all day. It's everyone's right to be an asshole, but that doesn't mean people are going to like you for it.
Aussies are at times criticised especially by some Americans, because of our lack of rights. However, talk to most Aussies and they will tell you that the lives of all Australians are safer and healthier because decisions such as the introduction of stricter gun laws and random breath tasting have contributed to a safer nation for everyone. Even compulsory voting is a way of telling people that their right to decide who governs is a civic responsibility. When there is a loss of lives in Australia, the reaction is almost always "What can we do to prevent this from happening again?" From America all I hear is "thoughts and prayers". We do have individual rights, but not at the expense of our friends and neighbours. Actually, we really don't go on about them, most of us just live our lives happily, but to be honest, not always perfectly. A very proud Aussie.
I used to say, “you have the right to swing your arms, but that stops where my nose begins.” Which, BTW, is also where your right to blow cancer-smoke stops.
Australians do have the same rights as other liberal democracies. I think Ryan was talking about the US right to "freedom of movement". Australians have that right too of course, but public safety comes first.
There are also fines ($40) for not voting, without a valid excuse. Political parties themselves are "gifted" (a rule created by themselves) a payment (currently around $2.80 ?) per vote for them, if they achieve above a very small percentage in the elections. No way will they stop compulsory voting. A nice multi-million slush fund for them.
Governments are usually reactive rather than proactive, at least here in Australia. There's usually a lot of whinging in the population, "There should be a law against it!" before anything gets done. So I'm saying that most people are for this. The road carnage was horrific before RBT. It took heavy fines and loss of licence for the habit of drinking and driving to disappear amongst many of my peers at the time, but they are all for it now, especially since the roads are much busier, and our generation have all matured. RBT units are well signed and there are blitzes around holiday periods to try to reduce accidents. Something that I have also noticed is that people who get hung up over privacy are often the ones posting every detail of their lives on social media. Every modern government can have tabs on the population if they so choose!
In Australia the safety of society in general or the safety of potential innocent victims are generally considered as important, if not more important, than the rights of an individual in many cases, especially when there is a reasonable expectation that such an individual has or is breaking the law of the land at that time. This is an area where Australians and Americans markedly differ, for Australians the safety and comfort of society at large is generally considered more important than individual freedoms. Thus Australians in general accept strict gun ownership laws which may be seen to impinge on an individual's freedoms but as this generally makes a society safer and therefore have less chance of or more freedom from encountering random gun violence, Australians are generally quite willing to accept the lawful restrictions on gun ownership or drivers being subject to random breath testing without legal recourse due to impinging on an individual's rights
Exactly. The safety of the public, especially innocent bystanders who are doing nothing wrong, should ALWAYS come before an individual who is willing to put others at risk with their own behaviour/actions. Why should anyone have the right to endanger others? It's insane to me that the US puts the "freedom" to be an asshole over the rights of someone to feel safe.
Japan introduced 0.0 blood alcohol limit around a decade ago. Breweries then introduced zero alcohol beer, which is now available here in Oz too. Now here in Victoria, professional drivers (taxi, bus, lorry drivers & pilots) must have 0 blood alcohol-a really good move. Some industries have RBT for machinery operators as well.
Most power related projects, solar farms transmission line construction camps will breatho everyone signing into the site, workers, contractors etc, just part of the game. and to be honest i'd have far more explaining to do to my employer if i failed that test
I've been through two RBTs in the last 12 months. We also have random speed traps which I would go through at least two a week. We have no 'Bill of Rights' in Australia but we do have something called the 'Public Good'. If you are speeding or driving while intoxicated, you are a danger to the public and can expect to pay a price for that sooner or later.
Australia is the only Western democracy without a national bill of rights. HOWEVER, the UK Bill of Rights 1688 is part of Australian law. AND three states/territories have their own bill of rights... the ACT, Queensland and Victoria.
My partner changed his blinker to avoid a check point and they had another cop sitting down the road and followed him and pulled him over. He got done too 😂😂
I just watched a video showing Jim Jeffrey's driving around Sydney with the cops, very informative about US vs AU! There's a whole tv show about Random Breath Testing, it's brilliant because you're watching real people behaving stupidly and looking pathetic, it works! We do jingles for everything! 😁
Yeah you can watch reactions of the Jim J ride along, but unless you have a VPN, it isn't available here in Oz where it was filmed 😐 But yeah Ryan should check it for sure👍 Looks like his bro too 👮♂️
@@sandgroperwookiee65Yes, bad news here, but Ryan should be able to view it - Jim Jefferies Show? I think big bro is more attractive, uniform, but yes definitely! 👍
According to Minister for Metropolitan Roads Natalie Ward, since the introduction of RBT, we have seen alcohol-related road deaths fall from 389 in 1980 to 47 in 2021. Who in their right mind could say it's a bad idea. Imagine claiming that it's your right to drive drunk and kill people.
In 1980, Australia's population was 15 million, 26 million 2021. Shows the reduction in drink road fatalities. US road fatalities is approx 12.8 per 100,000 compared to Australia's 4.2 per 100,000.
They aren't claiming it's their right to drive drunk and kill people, they're claiming it's their right to not be tested randomly. Not that I agree with that, I think RBT is a great idea. But to many Americans, the police randomly performing checks is a sign that the country is turning into a police state.
You've never lived under tyranny. Americans earned their freedom in a revolution. Read about the tyranny they endured, how their women were treated in 1776.
@@warrencurtis7442 you're addressing the citizens of what was established as a penal colony. We already knew living under tyranny. Tyranny is what dumped people here. Tyranny is what massacred and traumatized the indigenous peoples already established here. And, yeah, every generation of women were abused. Are still being abused. It's 2024 and some government organisations have only just this year published their first sexual harassment policies, and even then only because they were obligated to by changes to federal legislation. We've never lived under tyranny. What a crock
@@warrencurtis7442 Mate, we were "founded" as a penal colony for crimes ranging from starving to death and stealing food, to rape and murder. Also, the US and South Africa regarded Australia's "White Australia Policy", as the go to model for racial separatism and aparthied. Your ignorance is painfully obvious. You don't know what the hell you are talking about.
I've seen those "field sobriety tests" in videos and wondered why the police were wasting so much of their time and the driver's time when a ten second breathalyser test would settle the matter. Now I understand that the police in the US aren't allowed to do the breath test straight away. That's sort of Amish policing, you've got a quick, convenient, non time wasting method but you're not allowed to use it.
Australian laws allow for police to conduct Random Breath Tests (RBT) of drivers, and recently in years drug testing was introduced. Previously we began with the alcoholic limit of 0.08 as in Indiana, but that was reduced to 0.05. Proviosnal drivers or learners is zero alcohol level. Police don't do sobriety tests like they do in the USA. If a person registers over the alcohol or drug level at the random breath test, they are then taken to the nearest police station (unless a breathalyser bus is onsite) to conduct proper and more accurate alcohol or drug test. Depending on the test result at the police station will either let you go as you were tested under 0.05. You could be charged with low-range, mid- range or high-range alcohol limit depending on how high the reading was.
The 0.05 everywhere thing is relatively recent, and is some states ALL drivers with hazardous materials (say a ute with full jerries or an oxy torch or highly corrosive/flammable substances) have to be below 0.02
Before they introduced a blood alcohol limit, they did research which showed that your ability to drive became impaired between 0.05-0.08, and in 1966 Victoria set the limit at .05 NSW set theirs at .08 in 1968
Hi Ryan, in Australia, the cops don't have to have pulled you over to test you. They set up "booze buses" on the road at random spots and test all or most drivers. Often they will have 4 or 5 cops testing. I think the booze bus is where you go to give a blood sample if you are over 0.05% on the breath test or test positive on a saliva drug test. They place the testing spot in a place where you can't see it (despite the flashing red and blue lights) until you have no way of avoiding it. They often also have a police car facing in the other direction to chase down drivers that "chuck a uey" to try to avoid the cops. Random breath testing commenced in Victoria in 1976. This was one of the earliest jurisdictions in the world to do so. Four million random breath tests are conducted in Victoria every year, which is about the number of registered drivers in the state, so drivers will be randomly tested on average once per year. While you say "pissed" to mean annoyed, we would say "pissed off".
I have been driving since it came in. In all that time, till today, I have been RBT'd maybe 3 times in total. In my group growing up, when we got together and partied, we had designated drivers and never had any problems. Nobody I know has a problem with RBTs, unless they are drinkers that drive. I don't know that many.
Ryan as an Aussie I agree with RBT stops. I lost my sister to a drunk driver just before random breath testing came in to effect. I have been tested many times and it has never been an inconvenience to me.😊
In nearly every instance I’ve heard Americans screaming about ‘my right’, it’s always about wanting to do something annoying or dangerous to other people, or themselves that will put others at risk to save them.
Exactly. Screw the "rights" of someone to be an asshole or endanger others. The rights of innocents to feel safe is far more important than an individual wanting to put others at risk just because they can.
@@jessbellis9510 Imagine just how big the American middle class would be and how far ahead the its standard of living as well if there were a bit less individualism and more collaboration? Sadly too many have succumbed to lie of, ‘if it ain’t how we do it, it’s communism.
Australian freedom is about creating an environment where we can be free and you are not free if you are not safe. Hence our attitude to guns and road traffic
@@warrencurtis7442 I think freedom can be seen from more than one perspective. I understand your “words on paper” argument but I prefer to see freedom as an environment and for me safety is key to that environment.
I remember this ad and yes, we altered the songs' lyrics as well, similar to the person that responded to on the post, when seeing the RBT out and about. Looking back, it worked as annoying jingles stick in your head, having smart-arse teenagers helps too! Lol The first roadside RBT we witnessed as kids, were hilarious, to see when they pull out the mouthpiece with a bag on the end. We used to laugh our heads off in the back of the family car as we told our stepfather to "wrap ya larffin gear around and blow into the bag". A mock on the words of the officer who instead asked him to "blow into the bag"!
Never been over the limit, though I am frequently asked for my licence. Police don't touch it, they are just checking its still valid. No biggy as they are always polite. All happy. 😊
At a RBT, I was asked for license and they walked around my car and noticed my rego tag was expired. Me rego was current but I’d forgotten to put the new sticker on. The officer checked his computer to confirm it was current and let me go with a warning. He could have fined me for not putting on new sticker AND for not removing the old one, so I was really happy he let me go. I changed it the next morning. He did ask me where I was coming from. I had my mum in the car and had just picked her up from a ladies group craft/scrapbooking night. I think that helped his decision to let me off 😃
When I was on traffic law enforcement random breath testing was reasonably new (long time ago). What is important is that the offence here in NZ is not "driving drunk" or some variant on that but is driving with excess breath alcohol, hence the test, which, with the bag is a breath screening test, not evidential. With this in mind a field sobriety test is superfluous, not to say not very accurate. Should a person blow green, showing a certain level of alcohol, the individual is required to provide a sample of breath and or blood for evidential testing and note that they are not at this point arrested. Only if they refused further testing would they be arrested and taken for testing, should they refused either test they would be charged with failing to do so and the penalty was the same as for being over the limit. In a matter of a few years drinking drivers became pariahs when only a short time before many viewed them as unfortunately unlucky, in my view a good attitude shift.
Ryan, during the 70's, 80's and early 90's we had some of the best jingles with our ads that would just stick in your head for days. The Yellow Pages "NOT HAPPY JAN" campaign that was progressed through several years was the best in my opinion and became part of our very day vernacular to show one's displeasure at someone else. The annual International Cricket Tours ads were also a highlight and who can forget the late great Tina Turner and our Rugby League ads. On a more serious note: In the late 70's we lost a very good family friend to a drunk driver running her over while she was walking on the footpath pushing her baby in the stroller, leaving her baby motherless. I was in my early teens but as far as I can remember the driver was not charged with drunk driving as before the police and ambulances arrived, he started drinking alcohol he had in his car and he claimed the shock of the crash caused him to have to have a couple of drinks to calm his nerves thus his intoxication but claimed he was not intoxicated before the accident happened. Thankfully that is now no longer an excuse, but it was one of the excuses that people could use before we as a community woke up. Which was also around the time they decided it would be a good idea to make seatbelts mandatory in all new cars and also introduced the first types of baby capsules and booster seats for young children. Many people still like to say that RBT's are only a revenue stream which is stupid because if you are pulled over and you blow under .05 you are golden if you are over you need to have your sorry arse locked up and I hope the fine hurts your back pocket which is a lot better than crashing your car and hurting or killing someone. In regards to the legality of the RBT etc. I am pretty sure that when you get your license and each time you renew it you are agreeing to obeying the road rules and police directions, so we are agreeing to being stopped for breath tests for both alcohol and illegal drugs. I have been out on a Saturday night and been stopped at two separate RBT's, it did not bother me because I knew I had not been drinking. 99% of the police who are manning these RBT's are very nice and respectful and giving directions for what they are asking you to do and how to perform the tests and are happy to be able to tell you that you are good to go and enjoy the rest of your night. The fact that the motorbike was going so far over the speed limit on the previous video would in my mind have the police questioning if the rider was maybe under the influence of something to drive that fast in that area. I would rather the interaction the police had with the rider over his speeding etc, rather than the police/emergency services having to attend a fatal bike crash and have to deal with the aftermath of another rider going too fast and losing control of their motorbike and having to scrap his remains off the road.
You're using a public road so they're not invading privacy..all for public good. I am old enough to remember no RBTs and non-compulsary seat belts. I also remember when they would publish road death stats every year and they were pretty horrific.
Those statistics in the late 1970s were incredibly sobering reading. The reduction in the road toll since then has been really good. It hasn't stopped everybody from driving whilst hammered. IT still happens, and people still do unbelievably stupid things behind the wheel. But every bit helps. I commend the authorities in their measures to reduce the road toll. Who would ever want to attend a fatal road accident?
The funniest time with RBT in my experience was when the driver of the car (I was a passenger) was the off duty boss of the officers conducting the RBT, and it was being filmed for TV, but they genuinely did not know it was him till he wound the window down. Yes, for RBT, you can (and indeed, should) be pulled over randomly, *not* because anything has given you probably cause in any way. They nearly sh*t their pants, and he just calmly told them through gritted teeth to just do the test. It was scrupulously by the book, and they tried their best not to let on, while we were trying not to crack up laughing in the back seat.
That made me smile seeing that old add. As a teen with friends when this started we circled the block numerous times so we COULD be pulled over. It seemed so exciting at the time.
You are simply being asked to take a simple breath test to prove your fit to drive. Public safety takes priority over your “feelings“. If you’re so worried about being breathalised, or randomly drug tested you must be feeling guilty. If you turn around when you see a RBT unit. And the police see you - they’ll chase you. Anyone who hasn’t been using drugs or alcohol has nothing to worry about. If you have been taking drugs or alcohol and driving THE REST OF US HAVE A LOT TO WORRY ABOUT!
RBT: Random Breath Test - implemented in all Australian States and Territories. Best thing ever to test clean! Random location police stops, stops almost all vehicles depending on how many test stations are set up ( 2/3/4 police on site). Anyone tested over limit, then is required to give full blood test. Blowing up the bag was very hard for my old mum.
I often think this is the key. Even today there is such a feeling of mateship among Aussies that even the unnecessary death of 1 is felt by us all. We do what we have to in order to keep our communities safe
It works and has saved thousands of lives and considering that for every road fatality there are 100 serious accidents with resultant paraplegic, quadriplegic and life altering outcomes, I don't care if i get pulled over and tested because at least me and mine are getting home safe. As the ad says "Drink Drive you're a bloody idiot"
But the folks who wrote the US Constitution knew everything back then,is all that matters to them today, Stuff their Constitution . They are so blind in that Country they really can't see the trees for the woods .
The thing is here in Australia if you use public places, the law stated there is no longer “you, me, I” but “we, us” so you practically follow the rule no matter who or what. It’s pretty much “society” society, everyone is doing their best to keep everyone else safe, not just you.
Ryan. Australian COPs all have breath test kits for 'on the spot' checks. Random Breath Testing is part of life. They also have Drug Test Kits. Impared drivers must be removed from our roads, period.
In the first ten years of RBT even at stretch I was tested about ten times. The local milkman got tested five times on the first day because he had to keep passing where they were setup.
The amount of Australian lives saved since the introduction of RBT is immeasurable Good on all of the police for doing such an underrated stressful and highly important job. Plus, someone’s gotta look after us, with so many idiots driving around out there 👍🏻 Best regards WMH Team - Australia 🇦🇺
Ryan, to explain a little those early "indicative breath tests", that is blow into the bag, were old school chemistry, a little like the pregnancy or RAT covid test, the straw had an indication colour (I think it was red), the breath sample in the bag could later be more accurately assessed. The modern version is a hand held device, the one with the clip on straw gives a digital recording of BAC levels to three decimal places with an accuracy of 0.003 either way. A second version doesn't obviously indicate a numerical result, rather it's programmed to indicate "Clear" up to 0.004, then "Restricted Fail" to 0.040, then "Check Fail" to 0.065, then "Fail" to 0.200, and "Recalibration Required" afterwards. If you question the "Restricted Fail", this is for all the Learner, Probationary and other Restricted drivers (Heavy Vehicles) that are required to have no alcohol in their systems. After the roadside test is the "Big machine" which is accurate to five decimal places, in the clip it was still very analogue, with a needle gauge, that is then duplicated onto a plotted graph on the dockets, and the highest readings are automatically typed afterwards, the operator also stamps, signs and gets you to countersign both copies,if necessary for court. The new one is digital and only requires the manual addition of signatures.
I am an Australian, and RBTs are brilliant. Yeah, a rare few have high tolerances for alcohol and may be fine above. 05. However, most start to lose reaction time. In Queensland, we were .08 for a long time but then matched the other states 05 laws. I got done for .07 about 3 months after the change. 300 fine but no suspension.
I must confess I love a glass of wine with dinner, but when I am the designated driver for the evening, I enjoy a glass or two of sparkling water........ Well OK I may add some fresh lime or lemon to it.
When the NSW Government brought in RBT the road toll in this state alone was around 1,300 per annum, which is more than the national Australian road toll now. It was subsequently rolled out in other states and territories. Most states have a0.05 limit for adult licence holders, with 0.02 for less experienced drivers and nil for learners - all understandable. Prior to 1982 the limit was 0.08 but people were only "put on the bag" following an accident back then. When blowing in the bag there were crystals - if they changed colour, you were dragged onto the "booze bus" for an evidential breath test to determine what would happen next. These days, the road toll in NSW sits at just over 300 and forcing people to drive home in a sober state was the biggest contributor to that lower number.
If you want to drink at home etc and not affect anyone else, that's your business, but if you are on the road them you could have a major affect on others.
@twelveytwelve Its not really assumption of innocence since that is only really applicable to court proceedings. It's more along the lines of reasonable suspicion and the right of non cooperation. If there was a break in on a street a cop couldn't go to every home and request fingerprints from the residents and then use your refusal as grounds for an arrest. Sure there is no assumption of guilt when the cop knocks on the door, just like there is no assumption of guilt when you get pulled over at an RBT, but the burden has now been placed on you to prove your innocence by cooperating with the police investigation. And for the record I am pro RBT. I don't think driving a motor vehicle on a public road is a fundemental right, like simply existing in your home is. But we should recognise the civil liberties we give up in this context so that we can guard against these practices moving into areas where they are not warranted and pose a greater threat.
I just heard a talk about this a couple of weeks ago. They said that in America cops have to prove that your driving is being affected by alcohol to break the law, hence the field sobriety test. In Australia the law is just that if you are over .05 then you're gone, whether your driving is affected or not. The guy said, you have to be careful the morning after a night of drinking because you may feel ok but still be over .05. He said there are advantages and disadvantages to both ways of wording the laws . Random breath testing is no brainer though, in my opinion.
We have laws that protect us, and are for our safety and wellbeing, hence why Australia is a safe country. We don't want a cesspool of a society like America. I'm very grateful to be Australian.
@@warrencurtis7442 ......I can guarantee we are more free. We don't live with fear or threat since we don't live in a gun saturated society. Police and criminals aren't having shoot-outs, and there isn't violence in the streets like in America. There aren't school mass shootings, so we don't have any concerns about that sort of thing. We have a better healthcare system and a better education system. We have better minimum wage, and better workers rights, and we have better consumer rights. Americans aren't free at all, Americans oppress themselves, which is why it's a cesspool of a society. It's not a country that all should aspire to be. Australia is a great country, it's not perfect, but I'm grateful to be Australian. I live in paradise compared to America, and there's plenty of Americans that would agree. It's got that bad in America that there are literally countless people moving to other states, even cross country to escape the BS and crime. There's been a few celebrities that moved, Stallone and his family are among them. America seems far more tyrannical to me.
I was in the Queensland outback going back to Sydney, and in the middle of nowhere on the edge of the desert at a T intersection was a cop sitting on a small fold up seat waiting for people to breath test after the Birdsville races.
In Australia it is actually called Random Breath Testing, they just set up a stop point and pull over motorists randomly for a test. No other reason is needed. It is an excellent deterrent because you never know when you might be tested. We don't mind, especially with the new breathalysers where you just have to count to 10 near the machine.
The last 2 times I've been stopped by police, were purely for random breath tests. One at the roadside pulling over approaching cars, the other a mobile unit travelling the same highway. No problem with either of them, even if I don't get that 2 minutes of my life back. Both were thanked by me, for helping to keep us safe.
They don't pull you over for something else and test you. The breath test is the reason for the stop. They will often send you on your way without even asking to see your license.
But they also test you, if you've been stopped for something else. Like no rego, speeding, etc. You will get tested, and then fined for whatever other reason they pulled you over for
In the previous video he watched, that was the context. Rider got pulled over for a ridiculous speed and then got tested during the process so that’s the perspective Ryan is coming from.
@@warrencurtis7442 If you have just finished something alcoholic, so your breath has an initial high reading but your blood alcohol is below the limit, then that will show up on the subsequent testing that is done before being charged. So for example, you blow 0.07 and you explain that you have only had one drink but you just finished it, they will sometimes just wait for a bit and test you again roadside. When it is then below the limit, off you go. Even if you are clearly drunk and so the breath test is an accurate reading of your blood alcohol level, you will be taken to the police station (or into the mobile booze bus if one is available) for more specialised testing before being charged. They don't just go by the initial breath test if they are going to charge someone. But a reading on the breath test that is below the limit means you get the immediate all clear and are on your way in a couple of minutes. Super easy, no stress. Drivers typically don't get breath tested very often. When we do, they are generally a positive experience or, at worst, a very miniscule inconvenience. Even with the RBTs being quite rare, they are often the most common interaction (or only interaction) that many Australians have with police.
Same law applies in Aotearoa New Zealand. I was stopped and marginally over the limit, the officer told me because I was respectful and not breaking any other road laws, I could call a taxi snd leave with a warning.
The RBT stations and police presence on the roads in general will increase starting tomorrow here in Australia for the start of Easter too. We also get double demerits (loss of points on license) if we break a traffic law during holiday periods. There are still accidents and other issues, but there would be a lot more without it.
It used to be .08 at the station breath testing in the 70's. I used to see the US sobriety test on tv. You know, walk a straight line and touch the end of your nose. I'd fail as i can't walk a straight line sober. A common phrase here for over 50 years is " Pissed as a rat ". Rat could be replaced with a variety of names.
In Australia we have 'socialised' medicine and in particular hospitals. It makes sense if the public has to pay the hospital bills for the drunk drivers and their victims then drunk driving needs to be minimised. The same reasoning with seat belts (and now speeding) in Australia. You will be shocked to see the fines/penalties for not wearing seat belts compared to many if not all US states. I'm shocked to see in some US states the lack of seat belts required in the back seats and fines of $10-$25.
I remember when I first saw an rbt station in 1982 I think, I was 17 and when I saw one pulling people over to be tested, I drove around that block about 3 times until I got pulled over to be tested just to see what it was like.
I love it here in Australia 🇦🇺 the road rules are absolutely the best. Keep drunk & drug effected people OFF the roads. It is standard practice here. Give the American cops the power to do the same. American First amendment right have a place somewhere. But not when it can potentially effect the first amendment right's. Of any potential victums of a Drunk & or drug effected irresponsible driver!
I have a quibble ... I would like to see USA's police better educated for starters ... and unless it is truly random breath testing I'd be afraid of racial profiling .
@@justjj4319 Hi 👋 I understand your reply. It's a tuff call. I just know it works very very well here in Australia 🇦🇺 I have watched some RUclips police channels. And gosh I do feel for what police in America have to put up with.
@@Betru2u60 oh don't get me wrong ... I do too. Even some of our own. A cousin used to be a Police Trainer ... especially in the area of reducing fear. anger conflict, during stops, here in SA in the 80s, to reduce the incidence of what we call "Death By Cop" (as in suicide by cops"). He volunteered that eg Victorian cops were not interested ... each police force has its own culture.
Americans care more about individual freedoms and the constitution rather than the community. Drinking driving is like having a loaded gun both can kill . You are responsible for your actions doing both drink driving and pulling the trigger.
I got busted by the breath analyser (RBT) , it best thing that could have happened to me at the time . I was over the limit , I was tired & I was about to drive over 150k home .Would I have made it , would I fall asleep, run off the road & hit a tree or head on into a oncoming vehicle . I'll never know , I was arrested , thank you SA police , the fine & loss of license was nothing compared to what might have happened . I've been driving now for 58 years & got caught once , once was enough for me to see how stupid I was but I see some get caught multipul times , fools & idiots .
We in Australia used to have 0.08 as the limit too. When I was still a teenager I blew 0.07 on my birthday and just missed an extra 'gift' from the cops. I once lived in a share-house where one of they guys blew something like 0.24 and many said he should have been close to dead. These days you don't take a chance and if you are gonne have more than a couple of beers each hour for a coupla hours, you make sure you take a cab, uber etc. Civil liberties shouldn't be about the right to drive drunk. It should be about the right to drive more safely with no intoxicated people also on the road.
Where I lived in Oz some years ago, it wasn't uncommon for RBT's to be conducted in the morning catching people who had left their cars after the previous night's drinking but gone back to collect them the next day thinking they were ok but still having the alcohol in their system.
I must comment on the aussie vernacular of "pissed" because it's so funny. That when we were travelling Europe with some U.S. buddies and I said, "OMG, I am feeling so pissed now". They look at each other and say to me "Why are you so pissed? You look pretty happy". I said yeah I'm happy, but pissed off my scone." They say " How can you be pissed and happy at the same time?" I said because I'm feeling drunk. Eventually explain it that pissed=drunk and pissed off = angry to us. I know that's a little bit silly, but they laugh so much and say "You aussies are so funny". Lol.
RBT as a mechanism to reduce alcohol-related traffic crashes (ARTCs) was introduced in Victoria, Australia in 1976 and was adopted by other Australian States from 1980-1988. The fourth amendment to the US Constitution protects from unreasonable search and seizures. I'd much rather being protected from drink driving morons/sociopaths.
Our Breath testing will take whole sections of traffic and test them all. Its expected and respected. Not just at night but you will find them in the mornings 6 - 8 am too to catch those that are still drunk from the night before. You are on a public road so its not breaching your privacy. Love Australia and New Zealand attitudes
I have been random breath tested several times over the years. And random drug tested once. It's nothing personal. And I have returned negative results every time. Random alcohol and drug testing is very effective, and the impact of being over the legal alcohol level, or positive for drugs, is severe. Since random testing came in, the reduction of road accidents, injury or death in Australia has significantly reduced. Now, if they can only develop a random test for driver stupidity.....
There are rules by which each individual must comply with to use a publicly funded "public" road. If 2 people are in a relationship some of each persons individual rights are forfeited for the benefit of the relationship, or the whole. No different in terms of public safety on the road or for that matter with the owning of fire arms. It's compromising for a better outcome
I have lost 2 uncles in separate car crashes due to them being drunk so am very happy that our cops breath tests and booze bus as it can save someone’s life.
I’m old enough to remember when people would drive drunk, no seatbelts. I’m so glad we have the strict rules that we do because if it saves one life it’s worth it. I remember a brother of a friend complaining about the 40 kms zones outside of schools. I’d rather be inconvenienced than hit a child that made poor judgement and ended up dead. He backed down when I asked how he would feel if someone hit his kid at 60kms in a 40 km zone. No response.
As an American, I wish that we did do this. Of course, we are the country where we allow people to own houses full of firearms if they wish, and then accept when massacres occur ignoring the please of those who have had their lives upended. So sad. Peace
It is sad. America used to be seen as an impressive country and visiting was often on people's bucket list. If you told someone about going to the U.S they'd be interested, maybe even a little envious. These days it's seen as dangerous and unappealing.
Here in NZ they sometimes have road blocks and get you to just say your name and address into a breathalyzer device that will pick up if you have been drinking. Sometimes they have these road blocks early in the morning for morning commuters incase they are still pissed from the night before! 😂😂
It’s quick and easy if you’re sober, and just part of your responsibility to hold a driver’s licence down here. I’d rather not do gymnastics on the side of the road when I can have a quick chat, blow into a straw and be on my way.
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If you have been drinking you shouldn't be driving, same as if you are under the influence of drugs. We take road safety seriously. Road toll has dropped drastically since these sort of tests were introduced
Fatigue is far worse than 0.05
I suspect most Australians are with me being more worried about their right to not get crashed into by some drunken idiot than to not have to count up to 5 or so...
Our road tolls might be better now, but we still lag behind plenty of countries in the stats. Public road public rules.
@@showusyabitsNow it is. It was not the case in the 1970s.
Seriously I didn’t have a driver license after serving a 3 month suspension, I was told I could drive in 3 months. The police thought it was in the time period, when it wasn’t, took my car, which I didn’t get back. The justice system told me that fuck up from the police but since I had to do it online, I didn’t know how, and so I lost the car, and still had to pay $3000. So the police actually gave me my sentence without a judgement. It’s a joke. I was so upset, and they said how would you feel if you killed somebody and you didn’t have a license, I thought that was the stupidest statement ever, as I am sure I would be devastated if I killed somebody and I had a license, I would feel the same way. Love ❤️ from Australia 🇦🇺
@@showusyabits Australia govt has ads about fatigue driving as well, "stop, rest, survive".
The difference between America and Australia. We want to keep the entire community safe, even if we have to give a little to make that possible. Americans simply don’t care about society if it violates their individual freedom.’Cause that’s socialism, and you can’t have that because your successive governments over the last 70 years have brainwashed you into believing that Socialism and Communism are the same thing.
This is why Australians are fools, there was a quote by some genius saying “Whoever gives up liberty for security deserves neither”
Yep Australia is Our, We,Us. America is I, Me, My.
The way y’all deleted my comment 🤡🤡🤡🤡 can’t handle the truth
So true
Very well put
How can it be seen as an invasion of your privacy if you are driving on a public road putting people in danger?
Also, driving is a privilege, not a right.
@@jurgentreue1200 Traveling in your private property is a right.
@@Jollyswagman7 Traveling by foot is a right, operating a vehicle on a road which is built and maintained through taxes is a privilege.
@@Jollyswagman7 ,, not on public roads.
You can have your license taken away if you disobey the laws so driving is a privilege. Guess that's the difference in mentality between AU and the US. @@Jollyswagman7
Two weeks ago on a Sunday, I’d been showing my dogs with my friends. On the way home, I got off the freeway in my country town and immediately there was a booze, drug bus. I got waved over to be tested. My 80kg Great Dane puppy tried to lick the police officer, and the cop laughed and gave him a pat. I was breathalysed and drug tested, I was clear, I have no issues with our police keeping us safe
Yes, I agree with you.
Same
I agree
Note I am Australian too
I like to say hiya have you had a quiet one? That’s what they need just to be treated as people just doing their job. The only haters are the ones who drive under the influence lol.
I feel sorry for the Police in the US - how many people must have they told, "sorry your father/sister/aunt/boyfriend has been killed. We knew the person who hit them was drunk but we didnt want to invade their privacy"?????
Exactly! Americans always using invasion of privacy as an excuse. But having to hear your loved one is dead, is earth shattering.
If a cop in the US believes you are intoxicated they will 100% pull you over and arrest you. You can then accept the charge or try and prove your innocence by taking a breath test at the station. If you refuse the breath test but still want to fight the charge the police officer will have to explain to the court why they believed you were intoxicated and unless you have a really good argument as to why the cop is wrong you will lose.
Anyway I am all for RBTs and safe roads but we shouldn't turn the US into some kind of strawman. The reality is that they have a stronger history than us of defending civil liberties because they have had violated civil liberties so much more than us in their time. The US has laws protecting against the unequal application of the law because the law has been applied unequally in the past. If you tried to set up an RBT in the US there would immediately be civil liberty groups claiming you are unfairly targeting certain demographics, whether that be socio-economic or ethnic.
Well said mate.
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@@goaway9977 In American law there is the 4th Ammendment of the Constitution preventing "unreasonable search or seizure" by the state. It's all about freedom from government tyrrany or something equally vague that is apparently more important than safety in public.
I don't see why proving that you are adhering to the terms of your driver's license (not to mention insurance) is such a big deal, it's done in seconds, less than a stop for a red light, barely an inconvenience. Unless you're a dirtbag that likes to drive intoxicated.
Your comment needs to be made into a drink driving poster.
Brilliantly written.
It's worth pointing out that the entire reason for pulling someone up can be for a breath test. i.e. The cop walks up to the driver's window and says, "Good morning, driver, the reason I have pulled you over is for a random breath test". That can be an excuse to pull someone up if they suspect something else, but it's also a very valid and common reason for being pulled up. It has happened to me numerous times (yes, I'm old), but it never upset me. It's no different, in my opinion than a radar checking my speed. I think most Aussies would agree that your "rights" to privacy do not outweigh my right to get home safely.
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It also a fantastic control mechanism. In the US, you can only respond to obvious driving signs, or the tragedy they cause. In australia, they can identify high risk times and areas, and send random breath tests to increases the resistence to drink driving. Australian drivers are much more concerned about being caught drink driving than americans because of how common random stops and testing points are. And that is good. You should worry if you are drunk, and people who are not drunk don't care. 30 seconds in line and then back home.
The main big difference is Australia’s are pretty relaxed and follow the law. Just like when the gun laws were introduced. Americans like to complain about anything. Freedom and rights seem to be what Americans want to complain about. Laws are written for every persons protection.i watch so many videos of Americans complaining about their rights, the constitution says this says that. All interpretations they can find. Instead of thinking of what the laws are for and doing people just want to have rights. I’m so glad I’m in Australia.
👏 💯 agree 👍 👏
Australians weren't that relaxed when the gun laws were introduced, lol. Lots of people were upset and there were even a few protests. Thankfully, though, when those people calmed down and gave it some proper thought they came to agree that it was actually the right thing to do.
Its a greater good vs individual want.
Laws that protect the greater society and blanket reduces everyones risk of harm, vs the individual believing them as an individual is more important
@@Elriuhilu In hindsight everyone thinks that, but when gun buyback was introduced it was pretty heavily fought and deeply unpopular.
I forget where there was a similar massacre to Port Arthur (i.e. its not just bikies shooting each other), but the holdout states were Tas and Vic (?) I think. Port Arthur changed it because it was so big, and it was so many young families.
@@smalltime0 There was the Milperra Bikie Massacre in 1984, the Hoddle Street massacre in Victoria, the Queen Street massacre in Victoria, the Strathfield massacre in NSW, but the 1996 Port Arthur massacre was the straw that broke the camel's back - notice that we always tend to refer to these big ones as massacres instead of shootings
With RBT limits a driver must be under .05 who are on full licenses, Provisional license holders must be ZERO, Heavy vehicle, bus, taxi, shuttlebus, etc holders must be under .02.. The idiots who say it's only revenue raising are those who have been caught over the limit, drug affected, fined, banned from driving for months, or jailed as a repeat offender. The RBT has reduced road deaths significantly over the years, but those who think it's a cash grab, obviously have not lost family or friends to drunk road users or drug effected ones either.
Correction mate heavy vehicles public passenger vehicles is also zero.
@@peterreid7771 read the regulations in NSW,
@@belleriffraff read the requirements in QLD.
In 1977 my brother was killed by a drunk driver who ran red lights. I so agree with the RBT and totally believe it saves lives
@@peterreid7771 differs by state, in nsw it's .02
When my cousin lived in Florida, a child was killed outside their school by a drunk driver.
They put a row of speed humps in the road directly outside the school gate as a measure of protection.
The parents of the children complained and protested until they were removed, as it infringed on their rights.
This is the sort of morons we're dealing with 🙄
Astonishing. So so-called individual 'rights', come before safety of the community's children?
@@mindi2050 look at their gun laws - say no more1
My god!!!! That’s so sad and an indication about living in a shared community. You have my sympathy ❤❤
I call bullshit on your story.
@@Jollyswagman7 In Florida, speed bumps are only allowed in communities that maintain their private roads. They are apparently not installed on public roadways. Although schools are starting to install speed cameras to be operated during certain hours. Even speed cameras are unusual though.
I'm in Oz and I got breathalized about 30 yrs ago. I had stopped at traffic lights and took a swig out of my soft drink bottle. the cops( also at the lights )thought I was drinking beer(to be fair the bottle was brown glass like a stubbie) so they pulled me over. It gave me joy to hear him say "show me what you were drinking" only to then for him to say "fair dinkum ginger beer????"..he apologised but I still had to do the breathalizer still smile when I think of the look on his face after all these years but he was only doing his job
You can be drinking a beer whilst driving as long as you are under the limit in South Australia unless that law has changed recently all other states it’s a no no
'Only doing my job' used at Nuremberg.
You described the bottle and I thought "ginger beer".
Still, cops wouldn't be doing their job if they hadn't made sure
Glad you had a chuckle and a good story
Bundaberg ginger beer hey. That is probably the nicest non alcoholic drink I can think of.
@@MrTaylor1964 Not sure about that, I thought you can't have an open bottle and be driving in SA. But I don't drink so I could be wrong.
The police often set up RBT stations completely blocking the road, and breath resting or even DRUG testing every vehicle. The are usually located around a bend so you can’t see them ahead, and by the time you see them there are no alternate routes. One time on the Highway Patrol tv show, they had a second police vehicle waiting on a side street so you also had to answer the question “why did you come down this dead-end street?” 😂
Where I live they don't test every vehicle, but just a group at a time corresponding to the number of officers in the lineup, and allow the rest to proceed until they've been tested before pulling over the next group.
@kevin_mitchell Yes, I've seen that happen a lot whenever I come across a booze bus too.
They did it on riverside drive in Perth the day after an event (I forget which) and it caused a traffic jam for about 1.5 hours after it was removed.
Oh they caught nobody over the limit.
"i was looking for my lost dog officer it was around here"
No they stop several vehicles at once and let others pass before repeating the process. And they don't block of the whole road...they block only one lane
In most states in Australia you can expect to breath tested and possibly drug tested as well whenever you are stopped by the Police. We are OK with this because it gets drunks and druggies off the road and prevents lives being destroyed or lost. America is miles behind Australia in this, the compulsory use of seatbelts and compulsory helmets for motorcycle and bicycle riders. All of these things reduce injuries and save lives.
The RBT is just part of our lives in Australia. It has prevented so many deaths due to DUI (Driving Under the Influence). It now includes drug testing. Modern technology has made it more accurate and quick. They can be anywhere at any time. I was coming back at approximately 12.00pm from a principal’s meeting and was tested. No biggie. Everyone driving, on a particular side of the road, is pulled over for a test.
At least the RBT stops I've been through, they only do drug testing if they believe you're somehow under the influence. You need to have a smell, blood shot eyes, behaved erratically or smell. I think those tests take longer and require more work to double check, so police only use them if they have to.
And you also have a follow-up blood test to confirm your blood alcohol level before being charged..
US 5th amendment to constitution forbids self-incrimination. This is for a reason. How many cops in OZ have cameras that record what they do?
@@warrencurtis7442 when you get detained, you have like 2 hours before the final assessment
@@warrencurtis7442 Most of them now
Easter coming up everyone so remember DOUBLE DEMERITS and lots of RBT units around. Most people are for this as it's for the benefit of everyone. Most of the western world does breathalyzer tests but somehow Americans seem to think that being drunk and driving is one their rights. Blows my mind.
The very first time I was breathalised was on Easter Saturday.
Except in Queensland. We don't have double demerits for specific times, but if you are booked for the same offence multiple times, you get an increase in the penalties
Yay! I love being breathalysed. Except they always stop me before I’ve breathed even close to halfway out.
(Singers lungs.)
Being from NSW I'm well used to double demerits. Having moved to QLD, it's a different story. No demerits. No police, come to think of it. Very, very, different. I nearly had two head-ons in a year, living in rural QLD. Unbelievable what idiot drivers there are.
@@pandasrover
Maybe DOUBLE DEMERITS points removal will remove the possibility of those close head ons.. 9:02 .
I got my DL in 83 so it's the norm for me. I never saw this ad as I was a country kid, (No commercial TV). I don't see it as an invasion of privacy as the roads are a public facility. It saves lives for sure so I'm all for it. ☮️
Pissed in Aussie is drunk, Pissed off is upset, Angry 😡
It follows that people call alcohol, piss. So you drink’piss’ you’re pissed.
What’s the slang word for alcohol in the US?
Edit…funny old lady here, can’t even type the word piss, without quotation marks…
And "taking the piss" means to poke fun at something.
We do seem to love our urine based expressions here.
Pck off pissy pants :😜
Watching the USA sobriety test takes so much time where both the driver and the police here in Australia only take a few minutes to conduct a DUI test
Yep, I've watched a few of the video's of US DUI arrests...it's a bloody clown show of the cops "frig arsing" around for what seems like forever, all the while making the suspect more upset/agitated/angry (sometimes resulting in additional charges) and the cops job more difficut, only to breathalize them once they return to the station. It's like they want to: 1. Waste police time/resources. 2. Cajole suspects into committing more offences. and 3. Raise anti-police sentiment in the community by their actions. Seriously, I can see nothing to be gained by the "dog and pony show" they carry on with, instead of making it a relatively quick and painless process. I think we've got it pretty much spot on in Australia, and the road fatality statistics would suggest that we're doing way better than the US. Cheers!
@@phillipevans9414Very true and I will tell you now that I would not pass one of those tests as as I have hearing issues that affect my balnce ,, not so muchas to cause problems with every day situations but not those tests
I agree totally. So out of date and often so inaccurate.
Yes, and the sobriety test is much more subjective as based on cop’s opinion. Just do the breathalyser test and you are over the limit or not. Cop can act on result. Quick and reliable and less cop determination, therefore more objective and much less chance of conflict through needing to get the person out of the car, instructing them in sobriety test, observing and assessing them etc, particularly if there are other persons in the car. Much less dangerous for cop.
Yep - likewise field sobriety tests and arrests - both use more police time (= money”) than going straight to the kerbside breath test and on-the-spot-fines
I don’t drink and drive full stop. But it would be so embarrassing to have to get out of your car and do the wobbly walk on the footpath in front of everyone. Breath test is straight to the point
Peter Brock a racing legend of Australia, had his car number 05 as an endorsement to safety law
well I didn't know that. way to go brocky. RIP
Bullshit! He already had that number well before the 0.05 came in!!!
Yes that’s correct! He teamed up with Vic Roads Safety and Traffic and chose number 05 in 1975 to spread awareness of the 0.05 alcohol limit.
@@brettlane6908maybe do a little google first; the gentleman above is correct but even if he wasn’t, is that the way you would want to be spoken to if you’d made a mistake?
Not long after Brocky was killed in his final race in Perth, a paramedic was convicted of stealing from a corpse after she took something from the scene featuring that number.
When she was arrested the police found the item framed on her wall.
It was a betrayal.
RIP Peter Brock.
A few years ago my wife and I were driving home when we passed an RBT setup on the other side of the road. My wife wanted to experience the process so we drove around the block and changed seats. As we approached the testing station cars were being pulled up in front of her, she was so nervously excited. The car immediately in front of her was pulled over, then the cop looked up, they had enough to keep them busy for a while, so he waved her and the following cars past. She missed out.
That's classic
She should've kept circling.
I've only ever had one test, and I told them it was my first time. They made a joke and laughed as I was a virgin to the process. I'm 70 and have been driving since I was 17. I've always been waved past any RBT but did get pulled up once in a random car check where they looked at everything to see if it was roadworthy.
I don't object to having these things in place, and if you're not doing anything wrong, there's nothing to worry about. The police have each time be super pleasant.
That sounds like me. I keep missing out.
I was driving east on the Greats Western Highway towards St Marys and they had set up an RBT just around the bend when you drop from 80 K's down to 60. I was pulled over and the officer informed me that, "you have been pulled over for a random breath test". My reply was, "I would never had guess". He burst out laughing and replied, "you would be surprised at the questioned some drivers asked why they have been pulled over". @@nonacee5065
You won’t find too many Aussies against RBTs. We want drunks on the roads as much as the cops do. Speed cameras are another story.
If people post RBT locations on FB, they will get slammed.
Honestly I don't even know how it could be considered an invasion of privacy. Especially with modern ones just "count to 10. Good. No worries".
If the law requires you to be under a certain limit then it makes perfect sense that they can stop and check you for compliance at any time, otherwise it is basically unenforced or only enforced retrospectively I.e after an accident. Which if applied that way doesn't really serve to prevent accidents, which I believe was the whole point of laws like this?
You want to drive on public roads, you should have to comply with any rules that driving on those entails. Especially when it's for other's safety.
This may be a hot take but I think people who bitch about speed cameras need to shut the hell up and stop speeding. I particularly have no respect for parents who complain about speed cameras near schools. Same for Red Light cameras.
@dantenotavailable totally agree. Lukewarm take at worst.
Random breath testing wasn't introduced in Australia in 1982. It started in 1976 in Victoria, and then got introduced into other states progressively over the next 12 years.
I got a random alcohol breath check when it was first introduced in New South Wales. The policeman started by asking a couple of questions. His first question was, "How old are you, sir?" I replied, "Ummm... umm..." and he interjected, "I know it's a difficult question sir, but please try to do your best." ROFLOL.
What rights of privacy should anyone be given on public roads, when it comes to protecting the public from drug/alcohol fueled weapons. Ego and self importance should not come into play. Proud to live in Australia with tough laws and great attitudes. Who wants to live in a country and trust a government who is willing to put their love ones at risk over so called rights. What bullshit some Americans voice. 😒
Nothing to hide? Then nothing to worry about. Cut to the chase, why all the bull, don't waste time. U drive drunk or under drugs then too bad, cop the consequences
The problem in the US in their history of violations of civil rights and the safe guards put into place at a federal level to prevent this. You are not supposed to apply law enforcement unequally in the US, which basically means you can not target a community with heavier policing than another. That is why they work on the principle that a police officer needs reasonable suspicion before they can detain you. If you tried to set up RBTs in the US you would immediately have civil rights groups coming out and claiming that some communities are being targeted based on socio-economic status or ethnicity. It is why stop and frisk in New York was so controversial despite being so effective.
Anyway they have different priorities than us because they have a different history than us. And I don't envy them. I want safe roads and am happy to accept RBTs as a tool to further that. But there is no need to be disparaging to them.
The car your driving is a weapon, especially if you're under the influence of alcohol and or drugs. Even prescription drugs.
Seppos don't want people protected from gun nuts running around with military-style weapons, or covid-infected nutjobs running around without masks. What on earth makes you think they would want people protected from incapacitated drivers?
For goodness sake, it's not an Invasion of Privacy!! It keeps the Publuc safe from drunks, drug addicts, etc!! Nobody in Australia take offence at these Laws or being tested for drinking and drugs!! It is part of our Way of Life and if it can save even one life, it is worth it!! I think Americans attitude about these things are a bit over the top and extreme. Even over Gun Control!! People in Australia willingly handed over their guns after the terrible massacre in Tasmania. They were recompensed with money for the weapons that they handed over. It was truly worth it, to save lives in the future!! We are obviously more laid back and accepting of Rules and Regulations here in Australia, than Americans are in America!! I believe it makes us happier and.more content. Our only problems seem to stem from certain Illegal immigrants from other parts of the world, who bring All their hatreds and hangups with them!! Personally I would Deport All the trouble makers!! I believe All countries are experiencing this problem!!
Here in Finland and Im pretty sure it's the same or similar in most of Europe, cops don't need ANY suspicion whatsoever of drunk driving in order to give you a breathalyzer, in fact they quite often have checks where they stop every single car that passes by and has the driver take a bearhalyzer just to make sure.
I think this makes perfect sense cause I know for a fact that some people can seem and act like they're totally sober, not show any sort of obvious signs like smell of alcohol or fail one of your ridiculous field sobriety tests, and still be too drunk to operate a car safely!
In some european countries the limit is literally ZERO, if you've had anything at all to drink in the last hour or so, you're screwed, He're in Finland the limit is 0,5 promille, and if you're above 1,2 it's considered a severe offense
My ex was a massive alcoholic and even when he was drunk, most people wouldn’t realise. Even my parents when we’d go to their place for dinner. He’d have to be REALLY REALLY drunk for other people to notice.
What's to stop a cop who doesn't like you from planting alcohol all over you? That happens under tyranny, e.g., WW II Germany.
@@warrencurtis7442 planting alcohol allover you? How would he do that, open a bottle and pour it over you? 😂 Even if he did, that still won't show up on a BREATHalyzer, also, here in Finland, our cops aren't corrupt like many of them are in the US
Part of the conditions of applying for and maintaining a driver's license, along with compliance with the National Road rules (and any state additions/amendments) is the explicit agreement to undertake a roadside test when requested.
Licence
Over here in Australia, you don’t even have to be going past a RBT station. You can just be driving along doing nothing out of the ordinary or breaking any laws and the police can pull you over to perform a breath test and licence check. I always say though, you shouldn’t have any worries with being pulled over unless you are drinking and driving. If you’re not breaking the law, you have nothing to worry about. The person who commented with it being just revenue raising has obviously been caught as it doesn’t cost you any money unless you are over the limit.
10000% I agree with you. And If I am driving on the road, I feel safer knowing people who are under the influence are being caught by random stops for sure
@@TrainsovertheLittleParaRiver If the police stop your vehicle because they want to test your breath, the only information required is your driver’s licence which contains your full name and address. There is no lawful ground for investigation or detainment simply for refusing to answer probing questions. And Australian police are not arresting people for refusing to answer. You say the law doesn't require any more information, and they let you go. If you swear, yell, abuse, and annoy them, of course they get worried. They have to deal with irritable assholes all day. It's everyone's right to be an asshole, but that doesn't mean people are going to like you for it.
@@Enjgine I don't care to hear push posh from you
RBT and random drug testing done frequently where I live. I'm happy about it, it keeps our roads safer.
Aussies are at times criticised especially by some Americans, because of our lack of rights. However, talk to most Aussies and they will tell you that the lives of all Australians are safer and healthier because decisions such as the introduction of stricter gun laws and random breath tasting have contributed to a safer nation for everyone. Even compulsory voting is a way of telling people that their right to decide who governs is a civic responsibility. When there is a loss of lives in Australia, the reaction is almost always "What can we do to prevent this from happening again?" From America all I hear is "thoughts and prayers". We do have individual rights, but not at the expense of our friends and neighbours. Actually, we really don't go on about them, most of us just live our lives happily, but to be honest, not always perfectly. A very proud Aussie.
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I used to say, “you have the right to swing your arms, but that stops where my nose begins.”
Which, BTW, is also where your right to blow cancer-smoke stops.
Australians do have the same rights as other liberal democracies. I think Ryan was talking about the US right to "freedom of movement". Australians have that right too of course, but public safety comes first.
There are also fines ($40) for not voting, without a valid excuse. Political parties themselves are "gifted" (a rule created by themselves) a payment (currently around $2.80 ?) per vote for them, if they achieve above a very small percentage in the elections. No way will they stop compulsory voting. A nice multi-million slush fund for them.
@@mindi2050 Americans put freedom first. They earned their freedom in 1776. Australians haven't lived under tyranny.
Governments are usually reactive rather than proactive, at least here in Australia. There's usually a lot of whinging in the population, "There should be a law against it!" before anything gets done. So I'm saying that most people are for this. The road carnage was horrific before RBT. It took heavy fines and loss of licence for the habit of drinking and driving to disappear amongst many of my peers at the time, but they are all for it now, especially since the roads are much busier, and our generation have all matured.
RBT units are well signed and there are blitzes around holiday periods to try to reduce accidents.
Something that I have also noticed is that people who get hung up over privacy are often the ones posting every detail of their lives on social media. Every modern government can have tabs on the population if they so choose!
Wait 'til they get penalized for their carbon footprint. The EU is passing laws that prevent the repair of petrol powered vehicles.
My grandparents lived next door to the man that invented the RBT. I will never be angry about being pulled over for an RBT, they can save lives.
In Australia the safety of society in general or the safety of potential innocent victims are generally considered as important, if not more important, than the rights of an individual in many cases, especially when there is a reasonable expectation that such an individual has or is breaking the law of the land at that time. This is an area where Australians and Americans markedly differ, for Australians the safety and comfort of society at large is generally considered more important than individual freedoms. Thus Australians in general accept strict gun ownership laws which may be seen to impinge on an individual's freedoms but as this generally makes a society safer and therefore have less chance of or more freedom from encountering random gun violence, Australians are generally quite willing to accept the lawful restrictions on gun ownership or drivers being subject to random breath testing without legal recourse due to impinging on an individual's rights
Exactly. The safety of the public, especially innocent bystanders who are doing nothing wrong, should ALWAYS come before an individual who is willing to put others at risk with their own behaviour/actions. Why should anyone have the right to endanger others? It's insane to me that the US puts the "freedom" to be an asshole over the rights of someone to feel safe.
Americans earned their freedom from tyranny. Australians are yet to experience living under tyranny.
Japan introduced 0.0 blood alcohol limit around a decade ago. Breweries then introduced zero alcohol beer, which is now available here in Oz too. Now here in Victoria, professional drivers (taxi, bus, lorry drivers & pilots) must have 0 blood alcohol-a really good move. Some industries have RBT for machinery operators as well.
A lot of mines in Australia have a zero limit and make you blow at the start of every shift
@@steveredacted1394That’s a good idea. Wouldn’t want someone operating that kind of machinery if even slightly impaired.
I'm a Security Patrol Officer I have to be 0.00 too and we get RBTed whilst driving the Patrol car so no one is exempt
Most power related projects, solar farms transmission line construction camps will breatho everyone signing into the site, workers, contractors etc, just part of the game. and to be honest i'd have far more explaining to do to my employer if i failed that test
I've been through two RBTs in the last 12 months. We also have random speed traps which I would go through at least two a week. We have no 'Bill of Rights' in Australia but we do have something called the 'Public Good'. If you are speeding or driving while intoxicated, you are a danger to the public and can expect to pay a price for that sooner or later.
Australia is the only Western democracy without a national bill of rights.
HOWEVER, the UK Bill of Rights 1688 is part of Australian law.
AND three states/territories have their own bill of rights... the ACT, Queensland and Victoria.
My partner changed his blinker to avoid a check point and they had another cop sitting down the road and followed him and pulled him over. He got done too 😂😂
I just watched a video showing Jim Jeffrey's driving around Sydney with the cops, very informative about US vs AU! There's a whole tv show about Random Breath Testing, it's brilliant because you're watching real people behaving stupidly and looking pathetic, it works! We do jingles for everything! 😁
Yeah you can watch reactions of the Jim J ride along, but unless you have a VPN, it isn't available here in Oz where it was filmed 😐
But yeah Ryan should check it for sure👍
Looks like his bro too 👮♂️
@@sandgroperwookiee65Yes, bad news here, but Ryan should be able to view it - Jim Jefferies Show? I think big bro is more attractive, uniform, but yes definitely! 👍
@@jenniferharrison8915 I can't remember the channel I tried to view it on, but no luck. Yeah Ryan won't have any dramas watching it in the US
@@sandgroperwookiee65 Yes! 👍 I watched it from a Malaysian site!
According to Minister for Metropolitan Roads Natalie Ward, since the introduction of RBT, we have seen alcohol-related road deaths fall from 389 in 1980 to 47 in 2021.
Who in their right mind could say it's a bad idea. Imagine claiming that it's your right to drive drunk and kill people.
In 1980, Australia's population was 15 million, 26 million 2021. Shows the reduction in drink road fatalities. US road fatalities is approx 12.8 per 100,000 compared to Australia's 4.2 per 100,000.
They aren't claiming it's their right to drive drunk and kill people, they're claiming it's their right to not be tested randomly. Not that I agree with that, I think RBT is a great idea. But to many Americans, the police randomly performing checks is a sign that the country is turning into a police state.
You've never lived under tyranny. Americans earned their freedom in a revolution. Read about the tyranny they endured, how their women were treated in 1776.
@@warrencurtis7442 you're addressing the citizens of what was established as a penal colony.
We already knew living under tyranny.
Tyranny is what dumped people here.
Tyranny is what massacred and traumatized the indigenous peoples already established here.
And, yeah, every generation of women were abused. Are still being abused.
It's 2024 and some government organisations have only just this year published their first sexual harassment policies, and even then only because they were obligated to by changes to federal legislation.
We've never lived under tyranny. What a crock
@@warrencurtis7442 Mate, we were "founded" as a penal colony for crimes ranging from starving to death and stealing food, to rape and murder.
Also, the US and South Africa regarded Australia's "White Australia Policy", as the go to model for racial separatism and aparthied.
Your ignorance is painfully obvious. You don't know what the hell you are talking about.
I got my license in 1985 and Rbt has always been a fact of life for me, the promo is anywhere anytime
I've seen those "field sobriety tests" in videos and wondered why the police were wasting so much of their time and the driver's time when a ten second breathalyser test would settle the matter. Now I understand that the police in the US aren't allowed to do the breath test straight away. That's sort of Amish policing, you've got a quick, convenient, non time wasting method but you're not allowed to use it.
Australian laws allow for police to conduct Random Breath Tests (RBT) of drivers, and recently in years drug testing was introduced. Previously we began with the alcoholic limit of 0.08 as in Indiana, but that was reduced to 0.05. Proviosnal drivers or learners is zero alcohol level.
Police don't do sobriety tests like they do in the USA. If a person registers over the alcohol or drug level at the random breath test, they are then taken to the nearest police station (unless a breathalyser bus is onsite) to conduct proper and more accurate alcohol or drug test. Depending on the test result at the police station will either let you go as you were tested under 0.05. You could be charged with low-range, mid- range or high-range alcohol limit depending on how high the reading was.
The 0.05 everywhere thing is relatively recent, and is some states ALL drivers with hazardous materials (say a ute with full jerries or an oxy torch or highly corrosive/flammable substances) have to be below 0.02
Before they introduced a blood alcohol limit, they did research which showed that your ability to drive became impaired between 0.05-0.08, and in 1966 Victoria set the limit at .05 NSW set theirs at .08 in 1968
Hi Ryan, in Australia, the cops don't have to have pulled you over to test you. They set up "booze buses" on the road at random spots and test all or most drivers. Often they will have 4 or 5 cops testing. I think the booze bus is where you go to give a blood sample if you are over 0.05% on the breath test or test positive on a saliva drug test. They place the testing spot in a place where you can't see it (despite the flashing red and blue lights) until you have no way of avoiding it. They often also have a police car facing in the other direction to chase down drivers that "chuck a uey" to try to avoid the cops. Random breath testing commenced in Victoria in 1976. This was one of the earliest jurisdictions in the world to do so. Four million random breath tests are conducted in Victoria every year, which is about the number of registered drivers in the state, so drivers will be randomly tested on average once per year.
While you say "pissed" to mean annoyed, we would say "pissed off".
I have been driving since it came in.
In all that time, till today, I have been RBT'd maybe 3 times in total.
In my group growing up, when we got together and partied, we had designated drivers and never had any problems.
Nobody I know has a problem with RBTs, unless they are drinkers that drive. I don't know that many.
Ryan as an Aussie I agree with RBT stops. I lost my sister to a drunk driver just before random breath testing came in to effect. I have been tested many times and it has never been an inconvenience to me.😊
In nearly every instance I’ve heard Americans screaming about ‘my right’, it’s always about wanting to do something annoying or dangerous to other people, or themselves that will put others at risk to save them.
Exactly. Screw the "rights" of someone to be an asshole or endanger others. The rights of innocents to feel safe is far more important than an individual wanting to put others at risk just because they can.
@@jessbellis9510 Imagine just how big the American middle class would be and how far ahead the its standard of living as well if there were a bit less individualism and more collaboration?
Sadly too many have succumbed to lie of, ‘if it ain’t how we do it, it’s communism.
Australian freedom is about creating an environment where we can be free and you are not free if you are not safe. Hence our attitude to guns and road traffic
Well said!
You don't have a 5th amendment that prohibits self-incrimination, which the breathe test is.
@@warrencurtis7442 I think freedom can be seen from more than one perspective. I understand your “words on paper” argument but I prefer to see freedom as an environment and for me safety is key to that environment.
Totally acceptable to be expected to be in control of a deadly weapon.
Touche...exactly right
I remember this ad and yes, we altered the songs' lyrics as well, similar to the person that responded to on the post, when seeing the RBT out and about. Looking back, it worked as annoying jingles stick in your head, having smart-arse teenagers helps too! Lol
The first roadside RBT we witnessed as kids, were hilarious, to see when they pull out the mouthpiece with a bag on the end. We used to laugh our heads off in the back of the family car as we told our stepfather to "wrap ya larffin gear around and blow into the bag". A mock on the words of the officer who instead asked him to "blow into the bag"!
At a RBT stop they don't search your car or ask for your drivers licence UNLESS you are over the limit. It only takes a minute and you're on your way.
Never been over the limit, though I am frequently asked for my licence. Police don't touch it, they are just checking its still valid. No biggy as they are always polite. All happy. 😊
At a RBT, I was asked for license and they walked around my car and noticed my rego tag was expired. Me rego was current but I’d forgotten to put the new sticker on. The officer checked his computer to confirm it was current and let me go with a warning. He could have fined me for not putting on new sticker AND for not removing the old one, so I was really happy he let me go. I changed it the next morning. He did ask me where I was coming from. I had my mum in the car and had just picked her up from a ladies group craft/scrapbooking night. I think that helped his decision to let me off 😃
@@zombiemeg That dates you, we have not had Rego stickers for 20 or more years...
😂 Yep I’m old! But it had to be a bit less than 20 years ago when I had them. Or maybe that’s just my alzheimers talking 😂 @@puggsincyberspace
What do you use now?
@@puggsincyberspace
When I was on traffic law enforcement random breath testing was reasonably new (long time ago). What is important is that the offence here in NZ is not "driving drunk" or some variant on that but is driving with excess breath alcohol, hence the test, which, with the bag is a breath screening test, not evidential. With this in mind a field sobriety test is superfluous, not to say not very accurate. Should a person blow green, showing a certain level of alcohol, the individual is required to provide a sample of breath and or blood for evidential testing and note that they are not at this point arrested. Only if they refused further testing would they be arrested and taken for testing, should they refused either test they would be charged with failing to do so and the penalty was the same as for being over the limit.
In a matter of a few years drinking drivers became pariahs when only a short time before many viewed them as unfortunately unlucky, in my view a good attitude shift.
Ryan, during the 70's, 80's and early 90's we had some of the best jingles with our ads that would just stick in your head for days. The Yellow Pages "NOT HAPPY JAN" campaign that was progressed through several years was the best in my opinion and became part of our very day vernacular to show one's displeasure at someone else. The annual International Cricket Tours ads were also a highlight and who can forget the late great Tina Turner and our Rugby League ads.
On a more serious note:
In the late 70's we lost a very good family friend to a drunk driver running her over while she was walking on the footpath pushing her baby in the stroller, leaving her baby motherless. I was in my early teens but as far as I can remember the driver was not charged with drunk driving as before the police and ambulances arrived, he started drinking alcohol he had in his car and he claimed the shock of the crash caused him to have to have a couple of drinks to calm his nerves thus his intoxication but claimed he was not intoxicated before the accident happened. Thankfully that is now no longer an excuse, but it was one of the excuses that people could use before we as a community woke up. Which was also around the time they decided it would be a good idea to make seatbelts mandatory in all new cars and also introduced the first types of baby capsules and booster seats for young children. Many people still like to say that RBT's are only a revenue stream which is stupid because if you are pulled over and you blow under .05 you are golden if you are over you need to have your sorry arse locked up and I hope the fine hurts your back pocket which is a lot better than crashing your car and hurting or killing someone. In regards to the legality of the RBT etc. I am pretty sure that when you get your license and each time you renew it you are agreeing to obeying the road rules and police directions, so we are agreeing to being stopped for breath tests for both alcohol and illegal drugs. I have been out on a Saturday night and been stopped at two separate RBT's, it did not bother me because I knew I had not been drinking. 99% of the police who are manning these RBT's are very nice and respectful and giving directions for what they are asking you to do and how to perform the tests and are happy to be able to tell you that you are good to go and enjoy the rest of your night.
The fact that the motorbike was going so far over the speed limit on the previous video would in my mind have the police questioning if the rider was maybe under the influence of something to drive that fast in that area. I would rather the interaction the police had with the rider over his speeding etc, rather than the police/emergency services having to attend a fatal bike crash and have to deal with the aftermath of another rider going too fast and losing control of their motorbike and having to scrap his remains off the road.
RBT's have definitely changed drink driving culture in the last few decades
You're using a public road so they're not invading privacy..all for public good. I am old enough to remember no RBTs and non-compulsary seat belts. I also remember when they would publish road death stats every year and they were pretty horrific.
So do I. No seat belts, no helmets, and really alarming statistics.
@@lindaadams5030 Those seat belts will prevent you from getting out of a burning car.
and if you crash, they will stop you from being ejected through the windshield. Pick your battles mate. @@warrencurtis7442
Those statistics in the late 1970s were incredibly sobering reading. The reduction in the road toll since then has been really good. It hasn't stopped everybody from driving whilst hammered. IT still happens, and people still do unbelievably stupid things behind the wheel. But every bit helps. I commend the authorities in their measures to reduce the road toll. Who would ever want to attend a fatal road accident?
@@warrencurtis7442 they'll also prevent you from smashing your face into the windshield if you crash 🙄🙄🙄
The funniest time with RBT in my experience was when the driver of the car (I was a passenger) was the off duty boss of the officers conducting the RBT, and it was being filmed for TV, but they genuinely did not know it was him till he wound the window down. Yes, for RBT, you can (and indeed, should) be pulled over randomly, *not* because anything has given you probably cause in any way. They nearly sh*t their pants, and he just calmly told them through gritted teeth to just do the test. It was scrupulously by the book, and they tried their best not to let on, while we were trying not to crack up laughing in the back seat.
Pissed can also mean mad as in pissed off or drunk as in he's pissed as a cricket etc
Crissed as a picket😂 or jober as a sudge😂😂
That made me smile seeing that old add. As a teen with friends when this started we circled the block numerous times so we COULD be pulled over. It seemed so exciting at the time.
You are simply being asked to take a simple breath test to prove your fit to drive. Public safety takes priority over your “feelings“. If you’re so worried about being breathalised, or randomly drug tested you must be feeling guilty.
If you turn around when you see a RBT unit. And the police see you - they’ll chase you.
Anyone who hasn’t been using drugs or alcohol has nothing to worry about. If you have been taking drugs or alcohol and driving THE REST OF US HAVE A LOT TO WORRY ABOUT!
RBT: Random Breath Test - implemented in all Australian States and Territories. Best thing ever to test clean! Random location police stops, stops almost all vehicles depending on how many test stations are set up ( 2/3/4 police on site). Anyone tested over limit, then is required to give full blood test. Blowing up the bag was very hard for my old mum.
Australia has very small population and we do value every life !!!!!
I often think this is the key. Even today there is such a feeling of mateship among Aussies that even the unnecessary death of 1 is felt by us all. We do what we have to in order to keep our communities safe
It works and has saved thousands of lives and considering that for every road fatality there are 100 serious accidents with resultant paraplegic, quadriplegic and life altering outcomes, I don't care if i get pulled over and tested because at least me and mine are getting home safe. As the ad says "Drink Drive you're a bloody idiot"
People weren’t driving cars in the US when the constitution was written.
But those horse and carriages
@@MrTaylor1964 The horses usualy knew their way home to the stable at least.
There was tyranny in 1776. They had to earn their freedom.
But the folks who wrote the US Constitution knew everything back then,is all that matters to them today, Stuff their Constitution . They are so blind in that Country they really can't see the trees for the woods .
Maybe that’s where the saying “ Get off your high horse” comes from 🤔😅
The thing is here in Australia if you use public places, the law stated there is no longer “you, me, I” but “we, us” so you practically follow the rule no matter who or what. It’s pretty much “society” society, everyone is doing their best to keep everyone else safe, not just you.
Ryan. Australian COPs all have breath test kits for 'on the spot' checks. Random Breath Testing is part of life. They also have Drug Test Kits. Impared drivers must be removed from our roads, period.
In the first ten years of RBT even at stretch I was tested about ten times. The local milkman got tested five times on the first day because he had to keep passing where they were setup.
The amount of Australian lives saved since the introduction of RBT is immeasurable
Good on all of the police for doing such an underrated stressful and highly important job.
Plus, someone’s gotta look after us, with so many idiots driving around out there 👍🏻
Best regards
WMH Team - Australia 🇦🇺
Sounds like you're saying Oz has a drinking problem.😂
@@warrencurtis7442 is it that obvious 🤣
Ryan, to explain a little those early "indicative breath tests", that is blow into the bag, were old school chemistry, a little like the pregnancy or RAT covid test, the straw had an indication colour (I think it was red), the breath sample in the bag could later be more accurately assessed.
The modern version is a hand held device, the one with the clip on straw gives a digital recording of BAC levels to three decimal places with an accuracy of 0.003 either way. A second version doesn't obviously indicate a numerical result, rather it's programmed to indicate "Clear" up to 0.004, then "Restricted Fail" to 0.040, then "Check Fail" to 0.065, then "Fail" to 0.200, and "Recalibration Required" afterwards. If you question the "Restricted Fail", this is for all the Learner, Probationary and other Restricted drivers (Heavy Vehicles) that are required to have no alcohol in their systems.
After the roadside test is the "Big machine" which is accurate to five decimal places, in the clip it was still very analogue, with a needle gauge, that is then duplicated onto a plotted graph on the dockets, and the highest readings are automatically typed afterwards, the operator also stamps, signs and gets you to countersign both copies,if necessary for court.
The new one is digital and only requires the manual addition of signatures.
I am an Australian, and RBTs are brilliant. Yeah, a rare few have high tolerances for alcohol and may be fine above. 05. However, most start to lose reaction time.
In Queensland, we were .08 for a long time but then matched the other states 05 laws. I got done for .07 about 3 months after the change. 300 fine but no suspension.
I must confess I love a glass of wine with dinner, but when I am the designated driver for the evening, I enjoy a glass or two of sparkling water........ Well OK I may add some fresh lime or lemon to it.
When the NSW Government brought in RBT the road toll in this state alone was around 1,300 per annum, which is more than the national Australian road toll now. It was subsequently rolled out in other states and territories. Most states have a0.05 limit for adult licence holders, with 0.02 for less experienced drivers and nil for learners - all understandable. Prior to 1982 the limit was 0.08 but people were only "put on the bag" following an accident back then. When blowing in the bag there were crystals - if they changed colour, you were dragged onto the "booze bus" for an evidential breath test to determine what would happen next. These days, the road toll in NSW sits at just over 300 and forcing people to drive home in a sober state was the biggest contributor to that lower number.
i call it Random Boozy Twits, the TV show here in Oz about the RBT's - yup we have a show.
If you want to drink at home etc and not affect anyone else, that's your business, but if you are on the road them you could have a major affect on others.
I dont like being guilty till I prove my innocence. But its certainly better than that Benny Hill clown show you make people do in the States.
You're not "guilty". RBT makes no assumptions.
Ain't that the troof?
Oh great! Now I have the theme in my head! 🤣
@twelveytwelve Its not really assumption of innocence since that is only really applicable to court proceedings. It's more along the lines of reasonable suspicion and the right of non cooperation.
If there was a break in on a street a cop couldn't go to every home and request fingerprints from the residents and then use your refusal as grounds for an arrest. Sure there is no assumption of guilt when the cop knocks on the door, just like there is no assumption of guilt when you get pulled over at an RBT, but the burden has now been placed on you to prove your innocence by cooperating with the police investigation.
And for the record I am pro RBT. I don't think driving a motor vehicle on a public road is a fundemental right, like simply existing in your home is. But we should recognise the civil liberties we give up in this context so that we can guard against these practices moving into areas where they are not warranted and pose a greater threat.
Surely you mean Benny Hinn not Benny Hill who was British and funny as F????
I just heard a talk about this a couple of weeks ago. They said that in America cops have to prove that your driving is being affected by alcohol to break the law, hence the field sobriety test. In Australia the law is just that if you are over .05 then you're gone, whether your driving is affected or not. The guy said, you have to be careful the morning after a night of drinking because you may feel ok but still be over .05. He said there are advantages and disadvantages to both ways of wording the laws . Random breath testing is no brainer though, in my opinion.
We have laws that protect us, and are for our safety and wellbeing, hence why Australia is a safe country. We don't want a cesspool of a society like America. I'm very grateful to be Australian.
Americans value freedom. They earned it in 1776. Australians haven't experienced tyranny.
@@warrencurtis7442 ......I can guarantee we are more free. We don't live with fear or threat since we don't live in a gun saturated society. Police and criminals aren't having shoot-outs, and there isn't violence in the streets like in America. There aren't school mass shootings, so we don't have any concerns about that sort of thing. We have a better healthcare system and a better education system. We have better minimum wage, and better workers rights, and we have better consumer rights. Americans aren't free at all, Americans oppress themselves, which is why it's a cesspool of a society. It's not a country that all should aspire to be. Australia is a great country, it's not perfect, but I'm grateful to be Australian. I live in paradise compared to America, and there's plenty of Americans that would agree. It's got that bad in America that there are literally countless people moving to other states, even cross country to escape the BS and crime. There's been a few celebrities that moved, Stallone and his family are among them. America seems far more tyrannical to me.
I was in the Queensland outback going back to Sydney, and in the middle of nowhere on the edge of the desert at a T intersection was a cop sitting on a small fold up seat waiting for people to breath test after the Birdsville races.
In Australia we have a TV show called RBT were they film people being tested by police for alcohol and drugs while driving .
In Australia it is actually called Random Breath Testing, they just set up a stop point and pull over motorists randomly for a test. No other reason is needed. It is an excellent deterrent because you never know when you might be tested. We don't mind, especially with the new breathalysers where you just have to count to 10 near the machine.
The last 2 times I've been stopped by police, were purely for random breath tests. One at the roadside pulling over approaching cars, the other a mobile unit travelling the same highway. No problem with either of them, even if I don't get that 2 minutes of my life back. Both were thanked by me, for helping to keep us safe.
That’s why it’s called a Random breath test!! lol As an Aussie I have no problem! Those sobriety tests are hysterical! I’d probably fail it sober!😂😂😂
Jennifer. Me too! I had to laugh at the 1980's singing advert. I don't remember that one!
They don't pull you over for something else and test you. The breath test is the reason for the stop. They will often send you on your way without even asking to see your license.
But they also test you, if you've been stopped for something else.
Like no rego, speeding, etc. You will get tested, and then fined for whatever other reason they pulled you over for
In the previous video he watched, that was the context. Rider got pulled over for a ridiculous speed and then got tested during the process so that’s the perspective Ryan is coming from.
Suppose your breath mint/etc gives the test a false reading?
@@warrencurtis7442 If you have just finished something alcoholic, so your breath has an initial high reading but your blood alcohol is below the limit, then that will show up on the subsequent testing that is done before being charged.
So for example, you blow 0.07 and you explain that you have only had one drink but you just finished it, they will sometimes just wait for a bit and test you again roadside. When it is then below the limit, off you go.
Even if you are clearly drunk and so the breath test is an accurate reading of your blood alcohol level, you will be taken to the police station (or into the mobile booze bus if one is available) for more specialised testing before being charged.
They don't just go by the initial breath test if they are going to charge someone.
But a reading on the breath test that is below the limit means you get the immediate all clear and are on your way in a couple of minutes. Super easy, no stress.
Drivers typically don't get breath tested very often. When we do, they are generally a positive experience or, at worst, a very miniscule inconvenience. Even with the RBTs being quite rare, they are often the most common interaction (or only interaction) that many Australians have with police.
Same law applies in Aotearoa New Zealand. I was stopped and marginally over the limit, the officer told me because I was respectful and not breaking any other road laws, I could call a taxi snd leave with a warning.
The RBT stations and police presence on the roads in general will increase starting tomorrow here in Australia for the start of Easter too. We also get double demerits (loss of points on license) if we break a traffic law during holiday periods. There are still accidents and other issues, but there would be a lot more without it.
It used to be .08 at the station breath testing in the 70's. I used to see the US sobriety test on tv. You know, walk a straight line and touch the end of your nose. I'd fail as i can't walk a straight line sober. A common phrase here for over 50 years is " Pissed as a rat ". Rat could be replaced with a variety of names.
In Australia we have 'socialised' medicine and in particular hospitals. It makes sense if the public has to pay the hospital bills for the drunk drivers and their victims then drunk driving needs to be minimised. The same reasoning with seat belts (and now speeding) in Australia. You will be shocked to see the fines/penalties for not wearing seat belts compared to many if not all US states. I'm shocked to see in some US states the lack of seat belts required in the back seats and fines of $10-$25.
I remember when I first saw an rbt station in 1982 I think, I was 17 and when I saw one pulling people over to be tested, I drove around that block about 3 times until I got pulled over to be tested just to see what it was like.
I love it here in Australia 🇦🇺 the road rules are absolutely the best.
Keep drunk & drug effected people OFF the roads.
It is standard practice here.
Give the American cops the power to do the same.
American First amendment right have a place somewhere. But not when it can potentially effect the first amendment right's. Of any potential victums of a Drunk & or drug effected irresponsible driver!
I have a quibble ... I would like to see USA's police better educated for starters ... and unless it is truly random breath testing I'd be afraid of racial profiling .
@@justjj4319 Hi 👋
I understand your reply.
It's a tuff call.
I just know it works very very well here in Australia 🇦🇺
I have watched some RUclips police channels. And gosh I do feel for what police in America have to put up with.
@@Betru2u60 oh don't get me wrong ... I do too.
Even some of our own.
A cousin used to be a Police Trainer ... especially in the area of reducing fear. anger conflict, during stops, here in SA in the 80s, to reduce the incidence of what we call "Death By Cop" (as in suicide by cops").
He volunteered that eg Victorian cops were not interested ... each police force has its own culture.
Americans care more about individual freedoms and the constitution rather than the community. Drinking driving is like having a loaded gun both can kill . You are responsible for your actions doing both drink driving and pulling the trigger.
I got busted by the breath analyser (RBT) , it best thing that could have happened to me at the time . I was over the limit , I was tired & I was about to drive over 150k home .Would I have made it , would I fall asleep, run off the road & hit a tree or head on into a oncoming vehicle . I'll never know , I was arrested , thank you SA police , the fine & loss of license was nothing compared to what might have happened . I've been driving now for 58 years & got caught once , once was enough for me to see how stupid I was but I see some get caught multipul times , fools & idiots .
We in Australia used to have 0.08 as the limit too. When I was still a teenager I blew 0.07 on my birthday and just missed an extra 'gift' from the cops. I once lived in a share-house where one of they guys blew something like 0.24 and many said he should have been close to dead.
These days you don't take a chance and if you are gonne have more than a couple of beers each hour for a coupla hours, you make sure you take a cab, uber etc.
Civil liberties shouldn't be about the right to drive drunk. It should be about the right to drive more safely with no intoxicated people also on the road.
Where I lived in Oz some years ago, it wasn't uncommon for RBT's to be conducted in the morning catching people who had left their cars after the previous night's drinking but gone back to collect them the next day thinking they were ok but still having the alcohol in their system.
When my daughter started driving I wanted every driver on the road tested! 😊
I'd like to have their IQ tested.
I must comment on the aussie vernacular of "pissed" because it's so funny. That when we were travelling Europe with some U.S. buddies and I said, "OMG, I am feeling so pissed now". They look at each other and say to me "Why are you so pissed? You look pretty happy". I said yeah I'm happy, but pissed off my scone." They say " How can you be pissed and happy at the same time?" I said because I'm feeling drunk. Eventually explain it that pissed=drunk and pissed off = angry to us. I know that's a little bit silly, but they laugh so much and say "You aussies are so funny". Lol.
RBT as a mechanism to reduce alcohol-related traffic crashes (ARTCs) was introduced in Victoria, Australia in 1976 and was adopted by other Australian States from 1980-1988. The fourth amendment to the US Constitution protects from unreasonable search and seizures. I'd much rather being protected from drink driving morons/sociopaths.
Our Breath testing will take whole sections of traffic and test them all. Its expected and respected. Not just at night but you will find them in the mornings 6 - 8 am too to catch those that are still drunk from the night before. You are on a public road so its not breaching your privacy. Love Australia and New Zealand attitudes
I have been random breath tested several times over the years. And random drug tested once. It's nothing personal. And I have returned negative results every time. Random alcohol and drug testing is very effective, and the impact of being over the legal alcohol level, or positive for drugs, is severe. Since random testing came in, the reduction of road accidents, injury or death in Australia has significantly reduced. Now, if they can only develop a random test for driver stupidity.....
I’d 100% prefer a breathalyser over something subjecting like a cop making me do gymnastics on the side of the road.
There are rules by which each individual must comply with to use a publicly funded "public" road.
If 2 people are in a relationship some of each persons individual rights are forfeited for the benefit of the relationship, or the whole. No different in terms of public safety on the road or for that matter with the owning of fire arms. It's compromising for a better outcome
I have lost 2 uncles in separate car crashes due to them being drunk so am very happy that our cops breath tests and booze bus as it can save someone’s life.
Here in AUS most if not all traffic stops have a breath test at the beginning. Same with all accidents when police rock up.
I’m old enough to remember when people would drive drunk, no seatbelts. I’m so glad we have the strict rules that we do because if it saves one life it’s worth it. I remember a brother of a friend complaining about the 40 kms zones outside of schools. I’d rather be inconvenienced than hit a child that made poor judgement and ended up dead. He backed down when I asked how he would feel if someone hit his kid at 60kms in a 40 km zone. No response.
As an American, I wish that we did do this. Of course, we are the country where we allow people to own houses full of firearms if they wish, and then accept when massacres occur ignoring the please of those who have had their lives upended. So sad. Peace
It is sad. America used to be seen as an impressive country and visiting was often on people's bucket list. If you told someone about going to the U.S they'd be interested, maybe even a little envious. These days it's seen as dangerous and unappealing.
Here in NZ they sometimes have road blocks and get you to just say your name and address into a breathalyzer device that will pick up if you have been drinking. Sometimes they have these road blocks early in the morning for morning commuters incase they are still pissed from the night before! 😂😂
It’s quick and easy if you’re sober, and just part of your responsibility to hold a driver’s licence down here. I’d rather not do gymnastics on the side of the road when I can have a quick chat, blow into a straw and be on my way.
It takes longer, and the chances are you will get hit by some other drunk driver...